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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV "avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt (embed)

Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start tweeting.

Last Thread: >>18629404

>> No.18711103

Eh, I got almost everything right.

>> No.18711718

Trying to set up my OBS before I actually have my layouts even planned
What do I need other than just a game scene and maybe a just chatting scene?

>> No.18713202

>>18711718
That's it, personally I don't care for overlays so gaming though

>> No.18713753

>>18711718
Once you get big enough for people to care, you can set up a Starting Soon screen to give viewers a chance to start piling in before you play your game.

>> No.18714022

>>18711718
You should probably put together a "we'll be right back" screen too. Everything else you can make when you need it as you go.

>> No.18714971

>>18711718
Setting up a "technical difficulties" scene was one of the best decisions I've made, streaming-wise.

>> No.18715656

How is 4chancore guy doing?

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>> No.18719153

>>18718976
Teach us the controversy, Anyaposter.

>> No.18719734

Is a HyperX Quadcast good enough for ASMR?

>> No.18720000

>>18719734
Anything is good enough for ASMR when you're just starting out. No viewer expects a 2view to have a 3dio.

>> No.18722100

>>18720000
Blessed quads, thanks anon

>> No.18725132

Anybody good got Vroid commissions open?

>> No.18725342
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18725342

Is twitch doing a cull of its own? I noticed it hasn't been counting people who alt tab
Has anyone researched this?

>> No.18725665

>>18725342
you're being a paranoid schizo. stop bitching about low views and market yourself better.

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>>18725665
I'm not even a chuuba. I just figure out someone here would know

>> No.18726126

>>18725947
the short of it is
>stop worrying about it
live viewer counts mean nothing and the only important metric is average viewers at the end of the stream. there are dozens of myths and rumors about how twitch "actually" counts viewers and they're all wrong. don't be a schizo about things that don't matter.

>> No.18726312

Stream decks are pretty neat.
I just need to figure out jobs to properly (in quotes?) do PNGtubing other than slapping a single png or nyo OBS.

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18727071

Was rigging the toggle smile eyes on my model and I ended up loving the smug face that happens in the middle of the parameter. Pic related.
I'm losing my mind over this. Now I want to make it my default face and drift towards Onee-sama vibes. Thoughts?

>> No.18727159

>>18727071
hot.

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>>18727071
smug is good

>> No.18727765

>>18725342
>I noticed it hasn't been counting people who alt tab
I already debunked this a week ago in /wvt/, so you're being schizo. I logged into my alt, went live with no title or category, watched from my main (counted as 1 viewer) for 10 minutes with the tab muted and did shit on another window completely. Still counted as 1 viewer until maybe a minute or two after I already closed the tab when the 10 minutes passes. None of the rumors or bullshit you hear about this kind of thing are true, no one is culling, holding back, or otherwise trying to lower viewcount on Twitch.

>> No.18729010

Can channel owners see if you make API requests against their channel?

>> No.18729070

Should I make my own vtuber startup or is this only a path towards pain and financial ruin?

>> No.18729539

>>18729010
No, they'd have to basically be at your PC for that.

>>18729070
Guarantee you don't know the last thing about it so yeah, go ahead and waste your money.

>> No.18729709

>>18729539
I mean I admit I don't know the last thing about it... I dunno, I was just thinking, like I recently inherited like $5m or so and was thinking it might be cool to use this as seed money and invest in some chuubas and whatever other minimal infrastructure needed to keep my company going until (hopefully) it can sustain itself on its own revenues but... yeah I admit I don't really know anything about running a company like this and I'm not sure if anybody would actually apply to work for me either

>> No.18729902

>>18729709
>keep my company going until (hopefully) it can sustain itself on its own revenues
Slugma and Sakana did a stream talking about indie corpos. Tsunderia was somewhat profitable though Slugma provided no specifics. Phase Connect had not made any profits since it started back in June of 2021. That's what you can expect.

>> No.18730324

>>18729709
Can you send me some money? I had a very hard life and can wax poetics about it to you if you'd like me to. Even $10,000 would completely change my life.

>> No.18730369

>>18729709
If all you can bring to the table is money then consider investing in a company that already exists. Or better yet just sock that money away in something safe and never work again. Assuming, of course, that this isn't a larp.

>> No.18730412

>>18730369
Are any of the popular startups actually open to outside investment?

And of course I planned to sock some of the money away... I just thought starting a vtuber company would be fun

>> No.18730876

>>18730412
>Are any of the popular startups actually open to outside investment?
no. i have no idea what that anon is talking about. no indie company has ever said anything remotely close to opening the possibility of accepting outside funding.

>> No.18731709

>>18729709
>inherit $5m
>inject money on a business where most of the revenue came from donations
Tell me you have no business sense without telling me you have no business sense. Do you realize how much of a life changing money that is? Stash it on risk free stuff like bonds and you and your great grandkids would be set for life

>> No.18732152

>>18731709
>Do you realize how much of a life changing money that is? Stash it on risk free stuff like bonds and you and your great grandkids would be set for life
he'd still have a million left over to blow away on an indie vtuber agency that goes nowhere and his life plus his grandchildren's would not be impacted in any tangible way.

>> No.18732329

I wanna make youtube content because my internet is very slow, any ideas of what type of content i could make? if you have recs of vtubers that do youtube content i would appreciate it

>> No.18732363

I think overnight millionaire anon should give me some of the money, personally. I'll send nudes.

>> No.18732408

>>18732329
Miori from tsunderia churns out youtube shorts and tiktok clips like a machine. real good inspiration.

>> No.18732490

>>18732408
not interested in doing shorts or tiktok, but i will check her, thanks.

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1- I design my model in csp/krita
2- "rigged" in live2d
3-motion capture (face/camera) on my phone (android)
4-send it to my computer
5 audio captures from microphone to OBS

How do I do steps 3 and 4? Which software do I use here?

>> No.18732669

>>18732594
>3
vtube studio
>4
you don't have to send it to the pc, i think it connects through Bluetooth

>> No.18732734

>>18732669
Wi-Fi

>> No.18733232

>>18732669
You don't actually need the model loaded up on the phone if you're only doing the tracking. If I had to guess, probably saves some battery or processing power there.

>> No.18734140

>>18729709
Honestly?
You should go for it if you're passionate about it.

Phase connect, Cyberlive and Prism are small corpos with extremely wealthy CEOs that have the same amount of money you do and they're doing it as a kind of a serious venture and as a passion project. Remember that the costs of a vtuber is high initial cost due to models and equipment but there's no costs after that so depending on how generous you are in terms of paying for outfits, covers, art and marketing you can pretty much coast on giving people a vtuber model and that's it.

Otherwise you need to hire a manager at minimum to communicate and talk to japanese artists and to get riggers and to manage the talents by helping them with equipment and any other problems that crop up. At minimum you should expect to keep a few people on staff to act as management and support so you have to budget your company's financing to have a few years worth of salary to pay them as your company grows.

If you're super passionate about it, you can totally make it work. The other vtuber companies are started up by people with the same background as you. However make sure you have an accountant or financial advisor to put away most of your money and to leave some for your passion vtuber company. Go for it anon, you can make some people's dreams come true and you'll be doing something that you're passionate in.

>> No.18734271

>>18734140
Yeah I was assuming most of my running costs after the initial setup would be paying wages for managers, so I guess it depends on how long I can afford to keep that going while hoping we hit our big break and can earn enough to sustain ourselves after. Anyone have any general guidelines on what kind of manager:talent ratio is considered reasonable here? I was thinking like 2-3 people plus myself stepping in to help sometimes for a group of 5 initial chuubas but I'm not sure what the real world kind of setups look like.

>> No.18734403

>>18734271
You need just 1 manager to start off with and then 5 talents. You can expand and get better talent as you grow. Also remember that you have to not follow the Hololive model and to not have dumb restrictions. I believe you should look up Urara and Sakana's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L4q_3eBN_0 here to have an idea what the industry right now is like.

Think about a sustainable cut you're gonna take from the talents long term and whether they get to negotiate on the rates in the future, do they get to keep their models, will they get outfits or 3D models or ad buyouts. Will your force them to be on youtube or twitch only or to give them the freedom and etc etc. It's all things you have to think about and write down.

>> No.18734961

For how much can you have a break on yt and twitter until it cuts you off? I have been doing menhera break for a week now after months of consistent streaming 4-5 times a week

>> No.18735034

>>18734961
>break on youtube
doesn't matter to you unless you're between 20-30k subs.
>break on twitter
there isn't an algorithm that pushes you out so this also doesn't matter

>> No.18735108

>>18735034
Okay, thank you. That reassured me, cause I have been putting on a full-time VTubing course while also working full-time and I really needed a break to focus on myself and finally rest lol

>> No.18735141

>>18732490
tiktok is great for discoverability. i don't like using it either but if you want to gain traction easier i recommend it

>> No.18735538

Given the thread says you can be a vtuber using just a PNG, what do you guys define being a vtuber as? Wouldn't anyone with a random artwork profile picture and no personal webcam count?

>> No.18735548

I would just like to thank /asp/ for encouraging me to pursue this... hobby? Thank you. The regular posters here are great people and I will continue to thank them, at least in my own thoughts and prayers, even after I make it.

>> No.18735601

>what do you guys define being a vtuber as?
please fuck off and kill yourself. this is a retarded attempt at drawing arbitrary distinctions that don't matter. go bitch about it on twitter.

>>18735548
good luck anon

>> No.18735800

>>18735601
Jesus Christ, anon. I know people have a tendency to try to devolve threads into retarded arguments around here, but that was a genuine question. What a vtuber is absolutely matters, given there is a topic that needs to be followed here.

>> No.18735827

fuck off tourist. you don't deserve (You)s.

>> No.18735865

>>18735827
meds
take them

>> No.18735941

>>18711718
I am still small-fry, but have a Starting Soon, Be Right Back, Ending Soon, and Technical Issue scenes.
I will nearly always get into the game within ten minutes, but it lets me run ads, do a soundcheck, and then explain what I'm doing that day.
BRB is useful if I need a bathroom break, or to go and get a drink.
Ending soon for when we're rapping up, and I'm looking for someone to raid. Don't stick there for long.
You don't need them, but they don't particularly hurt.

>> No.18736696

>>18735800
>What a vtuber is absolutely matters, given there is a topic that needs to be followed here.
Streamer with an avatar, that's it. There's zero difference between most streamers and most vtubers aside from the audience they cultivate.

>> No.18736801

>>18736696
Thank you. That's all I was really wondering. Figured I might have been missing something.

>> No.18736858

>absolutely matters
???
matters to who? for what end goal? incels on 4chan who want to delude themselves into thinking a chuuba doesn't have a human operator behind it?

>> No.18738319

How come 2D models are more popular that 3D models?

>> No.18738337

>>18738319
Familiarity. All a nigga loves is all a nigga knows.

>> No.18738557

>>18738319
Anime but real

>> No.18738592

>>18738319
Like the other anon said ,familiarity, but it's also significantly harder to get a good 3D model. A sub-par 2D model looks leaps better than a sub-par 3D one, and it's a lot easier to hide imperfections behind "style" or "soul". A bad 3D model just looks bad, and there's only 3-4 accessible artists doing quality 3D models for Vtubers.

>> No.18738850

>>18738337
>>18738557
>>18738592
Thanks.

Other question:
Twitch or Youtube? What are the differences? I feel like Twitch has more... "zoomer" audience.

>> No.18738897

>>18738850
I also feel there is better discoverability on Youtube because less people randomly browse Twitch.

>> No.18738913

>>18738850
Depends on livestreaming or pre-recorded material. It also depends on which audience you're attempting to appeal to.

>> No.18739002

>>18738850
>Twitch
> I feel like Twitch has more... "zoomer" audience.
Twitch has all the audience, easily 5 times the hours watched and 4 times the CCV. Your audience is what you choose to cater to and the behavior you allow and cultivate.. Why would zoomers watch you after all if you aren't creating content that interests them?

>> No.18739115

>>18739002
to clarify here, I meant for live streaming. Twitch is better for streaming, hands down, but you should be streaming on twitch for youtube. Create content with the intent of delivering it to Youtube in an edited down and watchable format, normal gaming content edited down to the highlights, etc. Your short form content would obviously just go on YT but if you're doing regular edits/uploads, then a majority of all your YT vids will just be content from stream anyway since it better represents the content new interested viewers can expect to get.

There's a reason so many YT chuubas over the last year have been slowly moving towards Twitch, even the ones who were doing alright or even well. They're starting to stagnate because a majority of viewers aren't using that site to watch livestreams. Just like how you don't go to Twitch to watch pre-made content, most people aren't going to YT for livestreams.

>> No.18739176

>>18738850
Both. Stream on twitch and clip your stream highlights to youtube. Also create other content on youtube that's not stream focused eg. meme/shorts/commentaries

>> No.18740186

>>18738897
>>18738913
>>18739002
>>18739115
>>18739176
Twitch for streaming, Youtube for clips and memes, got it, thanks.

Another one:
Are there best times to set up stream schedule or should I focus on hours convenient for me?

>> No.18740564

>>18740186
Depends what you stream. Check Sully for peak times, but bear in mind that this could be done by one or two huge streamers for smaller games
Lost Ark (https://sullygnome.com/game/Lost_Ark_Online))

>> No.18742173

Is being visibly ESL affects the viewership?

>> No.18743035

>>18742173
Know of any popular ESLs? Use your head.

>> No.18743391

>>18743035
Well, shit.

>> No.18744141

>>18743035
Shylily?

>> No.18744339

>>18740564
Pretty neat, thanks!
>there are fewer viewers on Saturday and Sunday despite similar channel activity
what

>> No.18746226

>>18729709
Another option is to become an investor for an existing vtuber company. Not sure what Tsun, PC, CL, etc policy on investors but I'm sure at least 1 will be glad to have you on board.

>> No.18747286

>>18727071
H-Hot!!

>> No.18747761

>>18729709
anon you should like totally hire me

>> No.18748560

>>18735941
I commissioned a starting soon music that's exactly 1:30 and people know how long it is before start, until full melody runs

>> No.18748677

>>18729902
Start up eat loss for the first 3 years.

>> No.18749017

>>18729709
Anon before you commit try and create a busyness plan with everything included.

>> No.18749410

>>18729709
I'd be down to work for a vtubing company, I did a lot of research leading up to my own debut and I've done graphic design classes on top of my own art.
The big problem is that you want people who you know and you know them to be working for you at first because it's hard to rely on solely big stacks of money. You have to have connections, otherwise there isn't going to be enough combined business experience at the start to run properly, or randoms you hire might try to fleece you and take as much money from you as they legally can before they bail. I'd advise taking classes or see if you can find someone among your circles who might have something useful to help you, such as connections with others.

>> No.18750516

>>18727071
sex

>> No.18750892

>>18730412
>I just thought starting a vtuber company would be fun
Going for what Slugma said, it is the opposite of fun.
Instead of doing that, invest in yourself: take singing, drawing and voice acting lessons, then get a p2w model and become a chuuba. Hire a manager to guide you then once you got the clout start your own group.
The investment will be considerably smaller and you will get roughly the same experience

>> No.18751910

>>18735800
considering how some schizo on /wvt/ keeps on posting his stream where he has his webcam pointed to his tv monitor with a drawing he made of some weird mushroom clipped to a piece of paper in the corner of the frame asking "is this vtubing?" i can see why some people would get irate at the question

>> No.18752247

>>18751910
Link? Sounds kino

>> No.18752529

>>18750892
how do I hire a manager?

>> No.18752633

>>18735538
A streamer/Content creator with a bit of Kayfabe

>> No.18752690

>>18752247
i literally cannot believe i am linking this but here i guess
https://www.twitch.tv/rebelearthsky
i think he leaves his stream running even when he's not doing anything so he can post a fucked up analytics page that shows like, 130+ hours streamed in a month with less than one average viewer

>> No.18753022

>>18752633
>Kayfabe
i actually wonder how much kayfabe we are supposed to include. How to do it?

>> No.18753033

>>18752690
>israel
thanks anon

>> No.18753413

>>18753022
if you want to grow and make it then ideally little to none. viewers want to be entertained not be force fed your OC's lore.

if you're doing this as a hobby go wild. when he used to stream spacer haywire would larp his oc every stream and even questions asked in chat would be replied with in-universe responses. but he stagnated and never grew past 30 even after getting raided by Ironmouse twice.

>> No.18753852

>>18753413
Thanks for info.
I suppose I would go with no kayfabe, making up and keeping the lore consistent seems tiring as hell.

>> No.18754201

>>18753852
if you want to incorporate lore into your stream the secret is to build lore along with your viewers instead of making one up off stream. pekora got the title of a war criminal because of how she acted during her minecraft collabs.

imagine being part of the viewers who saw that live. new viewers would tune in and ask why she's considered a war criminal and your viewers will say "oh shit you're new, here check out these hilarious clips that explain why we call her a war criminal" and now you have regular viewers helping market you through word of mouth to new viewers. that's a lot more powerful than 12 pages of universe building that no one cares about.

>> No.18754241

>>18752633
Thank you for teaching me a new word. So if you're very open about the fact that you're using an animated computer avatar and act as yourself in every conceivable way, you're not a vtuber?

>> No.18754273

>>18754201
So memes.
Sounds good.

>> No.18754908

https://youtu.be/rAa8R58kwLg

How do I become successful as a clip translator? Is translating Hololive/Nijisanji the only way?
How do I find and get in contact with vtubers that want to put translations in their own videos?

>> No.18755155

Is it true Tik Tok is region locked? If so i'm fucked because i wanted to pander to an American audience

>> No.18755617

>>18755155
VPN?

>> No.18755761

>>18727071
Definitely a keeper, whether you make it default or not.

>>18729709
Remember, there are no guarantees. If you want it to succeed, you need to be willing to work at it, day in and day out, with tons of passion. You need to eat, sleep and breathe your company. And you need to be willing to, if it crashes after years of work, feel happy you did it. If that's the case, then go for it.

>>18751910
Sounds like art of the philosophical variety. Probably of the pretentious side more than the "serious question" side, though.

>>18754908
>How do I become successful as a clip translator? Is translating Hololive/Nijisanji the only way?
It'll help you get big. I'd suggest doing some smaller ones to help stand out.

>How do I find and get in contact with vtubers that want to put translations in their own videos?
Twitter?

>> No.18755772

>>18755155
yes

>> No.18755896

What is it about being a vtuber that prompts psychological trauma dumping on Twitter? Is it just zoomers being emotionally retarded?

>> No.18755963

>>18754908
>How do I become successful as a clip translator?
Start translating anything you can get your hands on, build up a portfolio so to speak. Network on twitter too

>> No.18756543

>>18755896
for the most part, yes.

>> No.18756880

>>18727071
i'm already solid from the oneesan vibes

>> No.18756984

>>18756543
I actually read into it a bit and apparently zoomers' lack of emotional intelligence is projected to be a major issue for businesses and corporations staffing wise. I mean shit, how the fuck do you work with or manage someone that can't identify, understand or manage their own emotions lmao

>> No.18757289

Trying to find some good fonts that I can get (hopefully for free) that 1) have a "soft" sci-fi look (but still readable as a display face) and 2) also supports Japanese while having proportional latin characters (not fixed-width)

>> No.18757398

>>18756984
i think it may a generational thing as we progress technologically at an exponential rate. So each following generation doesn't need to be as mature or reach maturity as soon because technology has allowed them to fill in the gaps. Also easy access entertainment is basically soma so it prevents people from being introspective on a constructive level. Streaming tends to attract the maladjusted since it does allow for personal interaction so you're going to see the more menhara people in vtubing.
It's pretty annoying seeing a vtuber talk about their trauma on twitter or not being able to handle criticism even if they asked for it.

>> No.18757502

>>18756984
>>18757398
God help the zoomers, seriously.

>> No.18757767

>shitting on over half of your audience with made up armchair justification
ngmi

>> No.18757817

>>18757398
I agree.

If there's any zoomer /asp/ies in this thread take notice lol. Luckily emotional intelligence is something that can be learned, so there's still hope. I forgot which business publication i read it from but they did some asking around and found that 50% or so of your success is based on emotional intelligence regardless of what field you're in.

>> No.18757833

>>18757767
it's okay, zoomie
i will save you once I debut

>> No.18757895

>>18757833
>once I debut
just reading how much highly you think of yourself already tells me the boomer and genx brainrot has infested your mindset. i sleep well knowing you'll never make it.

>> No.18757904

>>18757767
who?

>> No.18758068

>>18757767
We're not even shitting on you. I have nothing but sympathy for you guys.

>> No.18758381

>>18757767
>overwhelming data from shitloads of studies conducted by shitloads of different institutes
>made up armchair justification
ngmi

>> No.18758632

>>18757895
I hope you make it though

>> No.18759354

>>18757289
https://fonts.google.com/

>> No.18759529

>>18757817
I will, thanks anon
t. 18 yo zoomer

>> No.18759772

>>18759529
If you start learning about that stuff now you'll be fucking lightyears ahead of your peers when it's time to enter the work force or do literally anything that requires communicating. God speed, anon

>> No.18760061

>>18759529
different anon here, let me give you some advice as an oldfag.

the following things are important for mental health.
1. quiet. have some time every day where you have no stimulus, i.e. going on a walk, cooking, shower, gardening, etc. you can do things, just let your mind be not active / taking in media.
millenials get this wrong as well. walks are not meant for podcasts (you can, but you still need quiet time elsewhere).
2. you need a creative / expressive hobby of some sort. media consumption does not qualify.
3. you need physical activity. a healthy mind dwells in a healthy body.
4. avoid sugar, it leads to systemic inflammation which not only makes you feel like shit, it causes literal brain damage (i.e. neural inflammation).

5, and the most important: never stop learning. To learn is to grow. You're either growing, or stagnating. Rest is allowed, as it's part of growth, but being a NEET for months is no longer resting.

Bonus round, 6: You can only better yourself. You can not change other people. The most you can do is is tell them things, like I'm doing to you, but it's on them (here you) to actually take in what you say and adopt it into their own lives or not.

>> No.18760076

>>18757767
>>18757895
I want to bully you.
>>18759529
I want to pat you on the head.

>> No.18760697

>>18738592
No way, I always found the contrary. I think it's much harder to have 2D done right and usually only the very very expensive ones look good and move nicely.

You can get a good 3D model for way way cheaper than a good 2D one. And a cheap 3D will always be better than a cheap 2D.

>> No.18761385

>>18760061
Now that i read your post, i realize i've been doing most of these to some degree for some time, the one i'm really lacking on is a creative hobby, i guess it's time to get off 4chan for a bit, boot up LMMS, and finally learn how to use it
>>18759772
Yeah, feels specially important given the field i'm most likely gonna go in (Teaching)
>>18760076
Feel free to do so

>> No.18763143

https://twitter.com/_Junk_/status/1495170875498315778

What's the deal with indie vtubers shitting on people for disliking immersion breaks because they post roommate shit? Do they seriously have no concept of suspension of disbelief?

>> No.18763271

>>18763143
vtweeters are mentally ill, self-absorbed weirdos. more at eleven

>> No.18763773

>>18763143
>still hasn't done it
you just know he would get clowned on if he posted his real face

>> No.18764349

how do you do your rigging/live2D reps? do you practice on a sample model from scratch to get a feel for a flow or work with other shapes and non-human objects to focus specific skills/tools?

>> No.18764403

>>18763143
>no concept of suspension of disbelief?
Most viewers do not give a fuck about this. Most ENs are nothing but streamers with anime pictures so what is there to suspend? How often does Silvervale act like some guardian fox Ahri ripoff? How often does Iron Mouse make any references to her lore besides "Yeah im evil im the devil"?

It's people complaining just to complain about chuubas they don't even watch, or such an insignificant minority of schizos in their viewership that them not watching wouldn't even put a scratch on their overall viewership.

>>18763773
He was a webcam streamer for years before becoming a chuuba, doubt he cares about that.

>> No.18764521
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Will any vtubers from asp ever do any events together? Personally I think something like alot of asp vtubers gathering on a Minecraft server like MineinAbyss a custom Made in Abyss themed server could be a interesting endeavor as a aspire event. I say that due to the server allowing for more unique minecraft gameplay and it's supported proximity voice chat that could allow aspies to interact.

>> No.18764632

>>18764521
why

>> No.18764759

>>18764632
It could be a content outlet to some of these aspies who post "What content should I make? What game should I stream? What's something to record?"

>> No.18764814

>>18763143
The anti-faceposters are the initial agressors in this, which (to anyone who doesn't have an opinion), paints them in a slightly worse light. Added to this, they generally 'attack' with "you're attractive, why hide?" or "you're ugly, 0/10 would not bang", which makes them look like incels.
Becoming an acceptable target. Going after them is a nice way of gaining some minor interactions with a larger audience.

>> No.18764816

>>18763143
because it's pathetic to bitch and moan about someone treating a hobby like a hobby. random ass anons who don't even watch chuuba streams trying to thought police what a vtuber is.

>> No.18764897

>>18764521
a lot of /asp/ chuubas end up just doing events that have involved a lot of people from /here/ without it necessarily being obvious that it is
some examples are things like Professor Bloom's vtuber choir which involves multiple /asp/ies along with other /wvt/chuubas and some people from twitter

>> No.18764920

>>18764521
just join the secret aspcord that's all they do there anyway.

>> No.18764956

>>18764920
Okay, how?

>> No.18764979

>>18764956
DM Lance Maverick on twitter.

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>>18764521
>a custom Made in Abyss themed server
Wonderful.
I never heard about this before, going to look into it right now.

>> No.18765078

>>18764759
>It could be a content outlet
Making collab content with strangers who have no way of knowing what their chemistry is like is the stupidest idea ever. That's why most collabs are terrible to begin with.

>> No.18765179

Just secured myself a win10 PC (normally use ubuntu/XP) just for vtubing. It's shit (my late grandfather's) but I just wanted to give streaming a shot to see if I have what it takes.
See you soon my frens. I'll be starting designing myself next week.

>> No.18765261

>>18714971
What if your technical difficulty is internet getting cut though?

>> No.18765360

>>18765261
What's the point of this question

>> No.18765362

>>18725132
Can't you do it yourself? VRoid is just like making a character in skyrim.

>> No.18765430

>>18765362
Show me a good VRoid and I can show you a thousand terrible ones. It's not something that's easy to just pick up and make something that looks good, most of the best ones have been made by artists and not randos with no skils

>> No.18765499

>>18729709
What the fuck are you doing?
Just put (at least)1mil in an oil stock with dividends and you're set for life.

>> No.18765512

>>18765179
>(normally use ubuntu/XP)
What for? I get Ubuntu (I'm a Linux user myself), but what are you using XP for?

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>>18754273
Yes, in both the original and Internet meaning of this word.

>> No.18765934

>>18764521
>Will any vtubers from asp ever do any events together
Why don't you simply ask?
>hey guys who want to collab, here's my channel
too difficult

>> No.18766196

>>18765512
XP takes less resources than ubuntu. Since my computer has a zombie GPU it makes it more reliable for watching video on or offline. Also XP is just that good, if it wasn't for work I'd use only XP.

>> No.18766222

>>18729709
I would like some of that money. Please. I'll show you my hole.

>> No.18766847

How necessary do you guys think overlays are? I've been streaming without one because I can't find a design I really like. Does it seem more professional with an overlay?

>> No.18766955

>>18766847
It's about 10% of the overall experience, overlays won't save a boring stream

>> No.18767300

Is applying to Amber Glow's open auditions worth it? Seems like climbing aboard a sinking ship, but you do get a model and overlays out of it.

>> No.18767308

>>18766847
It's of zero importance.

>> No.18767352

>>18766847
>Does it seem more professional with an overlay?
>Do you think it does?
>Who uses them?
>Does it make the stream look better or worse

imo bring nothing to the stream and they make the game window smaller basically for no reason. On a Chatting screen they're alright but otherwise a majority of larger chuubas don't bother with them

>> No.18767656

>>18766196
I see, thanks for answering anon

>> No.18767838

>>18766955
>>18767308
>>18767352
Thanks anons. I'll still probably get one sooner or later but it's good to know no one really cares too much.

>> No.18769641

What are the best examples of overlays that you have seen? Just chatting/game/etc.
Do you really need to have a frame around gameplay or a lower third type of overlay with the game name as some people do, or is it just as well to have small bug overlays for hashtags/socials/etc.?

>> No.18770012

>>18766847
It's entirely optional. I had one made because I knew a guy, and I like the end result. Though once I get a model I might ditch it.

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>>18769641
I have my twitter handle on stream, maybe a goal of some kind in addition to the overlay and that's it. I don't know how I'd define a "best" overlay since the design of the overlay varies wildly depending on theming and color scheme of the streamer.

>> No.18770164

>>18765360
if your computer freezes on crashes it just cuts the stream.
I'd like you to elaborate on why having this scene was one of your best decision.

>> No.18770481

>>18769641
your overlay should do four things
>fit your theme
>look good
>fill less than 40% of your screen
>have important info
the rest doesn't matter

>> No.18772206

>>18765362
I’ve done most of that, I just want some custom stuff that is beyond my meager power. And at that point I might as well get someone to touch up the model I’ve already got.

>> No.18772514

>>18772206
good choice

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>>18729709
what the fuck do you mean >inherited like $5m or so

>> No.18773236

>>18753413
>when he used to stream spacer haywire would larp his oc every stream and even questions asked in chat would be replied with in-universe responses. but he stagnated and never grew past 30 even after getting raided by Ironmouse twice.
one look at this guy's streams and i can tell you the reason he never went anywhere has very little to do with larping/kayfabe

>> No.18773352

>>18773236
that's kind of what happens when you go heavy into the larp. you give up almost everything about entertaining viewers in exchange for kayfabe. this is why if you want to make it, drop the kayfabe. if you're just doing this as a hobby, then do what you want.

>> No.18774457

>>18773352
>amateur and unattractive png
>very dry commentary and dull voice
>plays nothing but space autism games
hmm i wonder why this guy didn't make it big
to be fair hes definitely not the worst ive seen, for instance he at least talks pretty continuously and doesn't leave a ton of dead air, his voice is clearly enunciated and not grating in any way even if its not particularly interesting, and theres no obvious technical issues with the audio or anything. but even as a lorefag theres no chance i'd watch this guy for more than a few minutes. practically the perfect hallmarks of a 10-30ccv streamer who can maintain a certain niche demographic, but has no chance of wide appeal doing what hes doing.
larping can work if the character itself is dynamic, exciting, and fun to watch, not spaceman #5692345 who talks almost exclusively about space stuff in near monotone. but ultimately this comes from being a dynamic, exciting, and fun to watch person in the first place. larping/kayfabe is only an issue of correlation with boring or misguided streamers who have nothing else to sell themselves on

>> No.18774464

I streamed a bit when I was in college & enjoyed it at the time, but haven't done it in years. I was planning on just doing some random test streams before I commission concept art or anything past that to make sure that I both still enjoy it and have some ability to entertain people. Is it worth making a new accoun with the intent to eventually use it as my vtuber account t & streaming with just a .png avatar of a random anime character, or should I just stream on my old main account & ask some friends if they can critique me (considering I have 0 intention of giving them my vtuber identity for obvious reasons)?

>> No.18775375

>>18774464
for your new account you'll want to come up with a name fitting of your character. A "random" avatar won't do it.
So go stream on your old account first.

>> No.18775435

>>18774464
you might as well as try streaming on your old account to see if you still want to do it before putting in the effort

>> No.18775712
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I know this is a lame as hell question, but please humor me.
I'm following a literal 2follower, pre-debut chuuba. I feel compelled to like most of their tweets and leave comments, so that they see the engagement and feel encouraged to continue pursuing being a vtuber. However, another part of me thinks they'd be weirded out by how much I'm interacting.
What are your opinions?

>> No.18775809

>>18775712
When I was a 2view I got weirded out by a "fan" who would obsessively like everything. Whenever I checked twitter and saw a ton of engagement I got disappointed to find out it was just the same guy. Eventually I got used to it and just filtered him out until he started posting comments on everything. I told him to knock it off and then he went menhera on me as if liking my tweets built up currency he could spend on me. I blocked him afterwards. Don't know anything about your chuuba but that's what happened to me.

>> No.18775884

>>18775712
you might look a bit like a groomer, just don't like LITERALLY everything and it might be weird if you don't even know them yet

>> No.18775887

>>18775712
Just like some tweets and reply sometimes, it's fine.

>>18775809
He probably helped you more than you think.

>> No.18775902

>>18775712
2view here. I'd say don't go out of your way, but as stuff pops up that's relevant to them streaming and stuff you're alright to show your support.

If you're going out of your way to like everything they post, best case they just filter you out after a while. Worst case they start getting disappointed like >>18775809

>> No.18776034

>>18775887
>He probably helped you more than you think.
No, he didn't.

>> No.18776073

>>18775712
>2follower, pre-debut chuuba
don't waste your time

>> No.18776079

>>18775712
How about you simply don't be weird?
Comment on an highlight from the stream and leave it at that. Ignore if he replies/likes your post (unless you're directly asked a question) but keep commenting on highlights to show someone cares.
In case you don't know what "not being weird" entails : don't tell his he's the best, don't tell him he's your oshi, tell ask him to show feet (keep that for when he's not a 2view anymore)
Oh and when I say stream highlights, I mean ONE(1) comment per video. Don't flood his inbox.

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>>18711051
What would you all say is the #1 mistake people make when starting out with regards to streaming and retaining viewers? (I.E. they're not in character, their audio is low quality, no personality, etc)

There's most likely a combination, but is there any one quality you see stand out all the time?

>> No.18776116

>>18775809
Yeah, I see some of their tweets every now and again having zero engagement, so I feel kind of bad is all. Just like you said though, I'm sure if they went and checked, seeing just me on their engagement, they'd probably just get annoyed.
>as if liking my tweets built up currency he could spend on me
I can thankfully say I'm not socially inept enough to think I can befriend someone by liking their posts on twitter dot com. Sorry to hear you had to deal with that freak show.

>>18775884
>>18775887
>>18775902
I'll probably just stick to liking and leaving a comment on their art posts.

>> No.18776182

>>18776098
>starting out with regards to streaming and retaining viewers?
Thinking that every viewer matters. When you start out, viewers will come and go. You have no community so there's nothing for them to stick around for. Curate your viewers and build your community early. Kick and ban retards in chat early and often. Don't get attached to the views and tolerate idiots in your streams just for the sake of numbers because they poison the well early on and fuck up your community's growth.

>> No.18776449

>>18776182
Are you sure this is necessary? I wanted a no jannies policy and thought it would work as long as I don't acknowledge/entertain the parasites.

>> No.18776550

>>18776449
>thought it would work as long as I don't acknowledge/entertain the parasites.
New viewers joining you channel will see degenerates in chat and leave. Even if it doesn't bother you it annoys every other viewer.

>> No.18778239

>>18775712
I'm always stoked to see the same people interacting with my tweets, but you don't need to feel compelled to interact with EVERY single tweet.

>> No.18779238

>>18776449
It is, there's plenty of streamers I don't hang around to watch anymore because they're chat is an absolute cesspool.

>> No.18779736

>>18776449
Not necessarily, there are different types of chat specially on twitch. You can control it but it also reflects the type of streamer you are.

>> No.18781152

Event overlays (Follows, raids, Hosts): Good or bad?
I've got a 17 second raid event overlay but I'm on the fence for it

>> No.18781269
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18781269

How much does being in character matter? I want to make an effort to shift more to playing a character I originally wanted (Right now I'm just being me, but with stream of consciousness) but I also feel a little awkward acting like a massive chuuni.

>> No.18782871

>>18781152
I think you're overthinking it a bit, anon.

>>18776449
Yes and no. If a chat is a fucking cesspool, I'm more likely to bail.

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>>18781269
Ahhh, but anon, to live to is be chunni. Workshop it with your fellow faggots.

This isn't to meme on you, but do you have any theater or acting experience? What's the character you're trying to be? Not asking for a name but rather adjectives. Is he mean? Is he scared? etc

>> No.18783289

>>18781269
It seems like being about 80% yourself and 20% is a good ratio. It's easy to tell when someone is deliberately acting something out instead of being themselves and after a while it feels shallow and disingenuous. If you don't play up your character enough then people will just forget about it.

>> No.18783310

What do you guys think about getting friends (online or otherwise) into VTubing just for the ease in getting collabs and actually making them interesting because you’d bounce off each other well?

And if, on the off-chance, all of you get fairly popular, at least you have a clique already (see: Elira’s group of friends).

>> No.18783520

>>18782871
overthinking how?
Is it too long, or should I not be bothered by the idea and just roll with it?

>> No.18783602

>>18783310
Only if they already had a genuine interest and intention of starting themselves. Getting someone who isn't interested to start vtubing so some things more convenient for you would be kinda douchy

>> No.18784596

>>18783068
I have no acting experience. My gimmick is to be a sort of haughty warrior type. Kinda like the full of themselves I'm-the-best narcisstic type, except that I'm not good at literally every game I play. I guess that would be a source of humor?

There's some games I'm genuinely alright at so it wouldn't just be me getting dunked on after talking myself up every stream or anything like that.

Right now I'm a 0view who's only being, well, me. If I'm honest, I'm pretty boring most of the time. I'm kinda quiet, speak monotone, and I tend to act pretty humble/lowkey most of the time, so I guess I'm trying to be my opposite.

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I'm gonna post this here so you can't say no one told you

>> No.18785085

>>18784596
Check TVTropes for articles about that type of character. If you're looking for how you should play that character then that's where I'd go first. They break down the reasons people like/dislike it along with tons of examples to learn from.

>> No.18785100

>>18784994
Oh no. Cyberbullying

>> No.18785265

>>18784994
I'm still surprised people don't understand that mass harassment and death threats are just part of the content creation territory. No one is special because they were harassed or received death threats.

>> No.18785359

>>18784994
>endless, dehumanizing harassment with little to no recourse
I know none of you watch anything but Vtubers, but I constantly see people shitting on and berating male streamers both on and offline as well. Women are just the only ones to complain about it and say it's sexism. Livestream fails should be evidence enough of this.

>> No.18785456

>>18783520
You don't need a fancy alert for anything. You really think someone wants to sit through a 17 second song when you get a raid or host? Would you want to? Buy a simple follow alert from one of the many streaming asset websites and make sure it has a short audio clip that's not annoying. It really isn't that deep.

>> No.18785518

>>18785456
Sweet, I'll shorten it. Thanks anon!

>> No.18785665

>>18785359
No, I watch a regular facecam streamer too. Men also bitch about this stuff and I've even quit watching a streamer over it before WoolieVersus
You kinda just sound like a misogynist.

>> No.18785858

>>18783602
I mean, they have a vague interest in watching VTubers at least, and it’s not like I can force them to do anything without at least some willingness on their part given the time, money, and effort it takes to actually start as one.

I was just wondering given the state of collabs these days; it’s tough getting one especially as a 2view right out the gate. If any /asp/ies have advice it’d be much appreciated.

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>>18784994
>just type Kill yourself
>AHHHH IM GETTING DEHUMANIZING HARASSMENT

I hope everyone here is strong enough to weather that kind of torture by closing their eyes and walking away.

>> No.18786131

>>18785665
I don't see this from men nearly as much as I see it from women and I don't see how my personal observation is misogynistic. No male streams says that the insults are because of their gender, that's not a thing that happens outside very few corner cases but in my experience when a woman is harassed they think it's specifically because they're a woman and not because the person doing it is just an asshole.

If I call a male streamer a stupid bitch they're not going to immediately assume it's a gender-targeted insult but a lot of the male streamers I watch constantly have to hold back on certain types of banter when they're interacting with women that I see them just unleash relentlessly on their male peers. Equal rights and no one deserves to be harassed and blah blah blah all that good shit, but I think the reaction to SOME things is disproportionate from one sex vs the other.

>> No.18786227

>>18785858
Why do they need to be a vtuber? Find a or commission a PNG character to represent their "presence" on your stream when they're there, they don't need to go full vtuber.

>> No.18786401

>>18785665
so if men and women both bitch about it then why does this article need to specify that female streamers are saying these things?

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>>18785918
Seeing people emotionally inconsolable about being harassed or threatened online is like watching someone have a complete mental breakdown because they got wet when they went swimming

>> No.18786938

>>18784596
I think starting from nothing playing a character is always a bad movie since you've got zero experience doing it. Use it for short bits at the start like when you do something cool ingame, or think you're about to and check out similar streamers to see the kind of charisma it takes to actually sell it VS just looking like a cocky douchebag. Dr Disrespect has some great Intros, Outro, and bits. The type of character you're trying to play has the bar set very high because of him.

https://youtu.be/fQM7tJwHe8Q

>> No.18787007

>>18786401
Because it's an article intended to farm clicks via outrage, and they seem to have only interviewed women. This sort of article is designed to make women feel threatened and to make men feel like women are up in arms over nothing. Outrage unfortunately gets engagement. That's how it ended up in this thread in the first place.
>>18786131
That's fair, but I think that calling a woman a bitch in particular isn't really the greatest example since that is an insult specifically aimed towards women when it isn't being used to emasculate a man.

>> No.18787259

>>18785085
Any particular recommendations for a page to view?
>>18786938
I can't take that man seriously in any form, but I suppose that's the point. Using it for short little bits here and there rather than 24/7 is probably a solid move for sure.

>> No.18787693

>>18787259
Yeah, you're not supposed to take him seriously, he's an corny 80s movie hero. I honestly don't watch his main content often because he just does shooters but I still like watching his highlights and bits like this.

>> No.18788614

>>18775375
Aren't top en vtubers named some random shit?

>> No.18788713

>>18788614
exactly. twitch partner "kitty mcpancakes" exists. aspies who want to make it need to stop wasting time on shit that doesn't matter and focus on the things that do matter.

>> No.18788779

>>18784994
>tells people there is bullying online
>on 4chan

faggot

>> No.18788868

>>18788779
Oh my god. Oh my god. I'm shitting and pissing in my diaper uncontrollably. You can't say that word. That's OUR word!!

>> No.18788884

>>18788779
you would be amazed how many people /here/ ended up posting in trash without known they would be merciless schizoposted
cough cough aspcord

>> No.18788945

>>18787259
Find a character in a show/game/anime/whatever that resonates with what you described, then go read their entry on TVTropes.

>> No.18788982

>>18784596
If you have zero acting experience and have the exact opposite personality, I'd suggest not using this type of character. This kind of character requires you to have a certain bullyable charisma and cheerfulness for it to have maximum effect. One wrong step with this character and you'll end up as another LTG/DSP and that's the last thing you want as a streamer.
If you're a quiet and typically monotone guy, you might want to check out the typical hardboiled detective noir guy, it's also good practice for talking to thin air by making random corny monologues

>> No.18789244

Why do I feel bad about potentially being a babiniku?
There’s no reason to feel shame or anything
But it just feels like vtubers are mainly meant to be a “female” space more than anything.
Help me ease my mind and change my way of thinking.

>> No.18789336

>>18789244
>Why do I feel bad about potentially being a babiniku?
>Help me ease my mind and change my way of thinking.
Be honest, why are you becoming a chuuba? Are you feeling bad about babi because you want to "make it" but have doubts and think babi would hurt your chances?

>> No.18789349

>>18789244
Why do you want to be a babiniku?

>> No.18789509

>>18788614
This. Your username absolutely does not matter whatsoever. One of the biggest streamers on the platform is named "XQC" and most just use their name or a random username. It doesn't matter whatsoever. The one tip for making it easy to say/remember is just sticking to 2 or 3 syllables because that's what any nickname you get will be boiled down to anyway. Pick a name you like and use it.

>Ninja
>XQC
>Pokimane
>Silvervale
>Ironmouse
>Lirik

You don't need a "character name".

>> No.18789564

>>18789244
Why do you want to be a babi? You aren't a girl,no one will think you're a girl, any time they call you cute they mean your character, etc. What reason is there at all to be a babi when it clearly filters a majority of people.

>> No.18789623

>>18789244
you might be a girl, anon! cheers.

>> No.18789932

>>18788884
trash sucks anyway and are a literal sikrit club, not sure why anybody would try shilling there

>> No.18790065

>>18789932
>not sure why anybody would try shilling there
autism and antisocial behavior. they're so scared of being seen by normies that they'd rather take a chance with anonymous schizos on 4chan.

>> No.18790084

>>18789244
you feel bad because at your heart you know it's a bad idea because nobody likes babis

>> No.18790202

>>18790065
i think it's funny how sometimes people are so afraid of shilling themselves they are even afraid of mentioning what they do here but then there are retards that shill themselves on the literal hidden boards and don't expect to meet schizos

>> No.18790359

>>18789336
>>18789349
>>18789564
I like the figure style better over male for my character designs.

>> No.18790525
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>>18711051
Is this model cute?

>> No.18790579

>>18790525
it's missing something

>> No.18790668

>>18790359
You can still look fairly androgynous with a male avatar. Pretty, even. Is the draw for you looking like a woman and using female pronouns? I'm genuinely curious; I do not get the appeal of being a babiniku at all. Not necessarily trying to discourage you or anything

>> No.18790800

>>18711051
I can't decide, big boobs or flat?

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>>18790359
A vtuber is more than the character design, what matters just as much or if not more so is how much the design and the voice "match" even though that's hard to gauge
Looking at someone like Luna for example i would say it's kinda weird at first but nowadays i can't imagine any voice but her own coming from that model

>> No.18790994

guys i have my model and i'm getting all set up should i use OBS or Streamlabs? also i don't really like using twitter should i start using it?

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>>18790890
it is extremely weird listen her naaa voice come out of her PL

>> No.18791024

>>18790525
Yes.
>>18790994
OBS. Yes twitter.

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>>18791024
> Yes twitter
god dammit

>> No.18791129

>>18790994
OBS
use twitter but learn how to use it effectively

>> No.18791135

>>18790994
Twitter is 100% mandatory for any chuuba, Discord is optional but recommended if you want to build a stronger community.

>> No.18791182

>>18791087
Not them, and I hate Twitter too but it is just a fact of the matter that lots of people who watch vtubers use it. It's not like you have to scroll it outside of marketing yourself.

>> No.18791232

>>18790800
Big naturals, please

>> No.18791360

>>18791182
You kinda have to interact with other people to network and leech off of them, and that might include cringe individuals.

>> No.18791450

>>18791360
like that wasabi guy?

>> No.18791481

>>18791360
Right, that's what I mean. You don't have to dwell on whoever the main character of the website is for the day or anything though.

>> No.18791494

>>18791450
No, that's a schizo not cringe.

>> No.18791829

>>18791494
i was thinking that people who are cringe are schizos adn all schizos are cringe

>> No.18791927

Bodysuits?

>> No.18791967

>>18791829
No
All schizos are cringe but not all cringe are schizos.
You can be cringe and still be nice.

>> No.18792311

>>18790065
>they're so scared of being seen by normies
you say that as if any of the people that post there don't also have twitter accounts or something

>> No.18792345

How would you go about deciding between several equally appealing character designs? I'm paralyzed by indecision right now.
>>18790525
I think the contrast between the sharp, cool eyelashes and the warm, soft colors of the rest of your design is throwing me off. Otherwise, very cute.

>> No.18792458

>>18792311
>as if any of the people that post there don't also have twitter accounts or something
why do you say this as if it means anything. they only follow and are followed by /here/chuubas and each other. they know their tweets aren't being seen by normies.

>> No.18792758

Anons I might be overthinking since this whole industry is only a few years old, but is corpo jumping something that is discouraged? Like if you get into a small corpo only to jump to a bigger corpo down the road?
Technically speaking it's like how you jump ships in a year or so to further advance your career in startups, but it has elements of IB where there would be an exodus of your existing clients to your new firm because you're the client facing guy, and I'm worried it might leave a bad aftertaste

>> No.18792854

>>18792458
there are many of them who have followings in the 4 digits which is bigger than what /here/ provides
nyaru, kimi, leaflit, picky, coqui, krimbo, etc all definitely have viewers that go beyond here

>> No.18792875

>>18792758
everyone does it in japan, even jumping from Niji to Holo is not rare

>> No.18792985

>>18792758
you're overthinking it.

>> No.18793061

what is the best tool for rigging simple emoticon-like faces?

>> No.18793103

>>18793061
Live2D cubism, what else would you use to rig?

>> No.18793361

>>18792758
Not really, it's pretty much expected for people to grow and move away if they're unsatisfied or looking to turn this into a career. Of course it depends on where you are right now too.

However right now where you can move to is quite small.

indies are looking to get into small corpos
small corpos have to choose between sticking in a company and hoping to carry it (which is possible since it's still quite early in the vtuber market) or joining Nijisanji/Hololive.

If you're a successful indie even joining a small corpo would help if they're willing to do the work you arent used to doing like getting the people to work on stuff for you. If you're a top indie, there's no point for you to join a corpo like Niji or Hololive because they take away your freedom as well as your revenue too.

In the end as long as you're not an asshole to the people around you, you can move anywhere you like.

>> No.18794192

For those of you that are in this to stream games, how did you choose which game you streamed first?
Also, how should I go about gathering an audience for my first stream? I made Twitter and Reddit accounts for my Twitch channel and I'm planning to advertise my stream at least a few days to a week in advance of my first stream on those platforms and in /wvt/, maybe this thread as well if it would be welcome. Any pointers?

>> No.18794323

>>18794192
>how did you choose which game you streamed first?
it does not matter.
>I'm planning to advertise my stream
no one cares about your streams. you and a million other no name streamers on twitch are spamming your links everywhere. make content that isn't about you shilling your channel. create value.
>maybe this thread as well
shill yourself in /wvt/ not here.

>> No.18794448

How hard is it to implement something like a halo or other floating objects above the head with physics and lighting effects on the head/hair?

>> No.18795689

>>18792758
Rosemi did it, I think, and aside from some shitposts on here I don't think anybody cared.

>> No.18795770

>>18795689
people get a bit passionate about it as with exchanging teams in soccer but it is also part of the games

>> No.18795841

Did the Jermapasta. I want to make adjustments, but don't know what to start with.

I feel like I was way too monotone in this, but also feel like that's one of my strengths in a way. Was a bit anxious recording it so I slipped up a couple times.

https://vocaroo.com/14XF5Wd8WQyp

>> No.18796155

>>18794448
>implement something like a halo or other floating objects
You can set the halo floating motion with the breathing parameter, looks pretty neat
>lighting effects on the head/hair
The only thing I can think of is having such lighting effect as a separate object and rigging it on the XYZ

>> No.18796474

any males get their holo audition tapes viewed?

>> No.18797005

>>18796474
I'm fairly certain that they took a look at it, and I'm equally certain that I'm gonna be passed up. That's to be expected, however. If any of you guys took a stab at it, I wish you the best of luck.

>> No.18797157

>>18784994
Nigger you kidding me? I was bullied till I was almost out of high school, and people really think some fuccbois on the internet are gonna do worse?

>> No.18797334

>>18784994
>Internet user realizes doing shit publicly means you will be told to kill yourself and be called a bitch/whore/niggercunt
Hugbox social media was a mistake. Zoomers aren't prepared for what the actual internet is like, where anyone can call you a cunt because content isn't curated and filtered by an algorithm

>> No.18799651

>>18790202
I might shill myself here more, because the point isn't to get schizos to become your regular viewers, but rather get a reality check. i see a lot of things wrong on 2views and i try to point them out where i can, but i lack that input myself. So even if all i'm getting is "kill yourself" maybe some anon will explain why and that input might be valuable.

that am i rather uncreative on where to vomit my link into, i don't really like doing it on random discords

>> No.18800289

>>18799651
asp is best for objective things or shit that has clear yes or no responses.
>is my sound good
>what hardware should i use
>is my overlay too distracting
asking barely 50-80 anons of which only three or four will watch you for subjective feedback about your content is just going to get your groomed or ignored. besides you shouldn't be pandering to viewers from here if you want to grow and make it as a chuuba.

>> No.18800774

>>18784596
>>18788982
This is actually really solid advice, damn. He's 100% right. I did a similar tactic. I'm a fucking boomer; so I went with a character somewhat like that. It's had a positive effect for sure.

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>>18789244
Despite what this thread will tell you, there are a good bit of people who are into and enjoy babi. It offers a sense of departure from the model and the person behind it, which is personally something I wanted, but it differs from person to person and I don't blame people for not being into it. As for people thinking you're a girl, just make zero effort to hide that you are a dude. Use a more masculine tone to really drive home you aren't trying to pull the wool over someone's eyes. Or better yet create a funny reason behind the clear discrepancy in your voice and the model. As always, it will mostly come down to the person behind the model being entertaining in some way.

You can also just try it, and if it doesn't pan out just rebrand. You cannot lose, my good anon. Good luck, regardless of what you do.

>> No.18801098

I've been practicing doing stream of consciousness talking, but I'm worried about picking boring topics to be rambling on about (I have a bad tendency to be overly detailed when telling stories just to friends and whatnot as well because autism). Is there a limit that I should look for as to how long I should talk about one thing?

>> No.18801162

>>18800968
that's what i do, i use a girl model, but i just use my normal guy voice and when people ask "why do you have this model" i just say "i just like the character a lot" for me it's more the personality and the mood it is conveying. the few people that do watch my streams seem to enjoy or at least don't care either way.

sure i drive away the people who want BFE or whatever you call them, but i wouldn't want to pander to that crowd anyways. it doesn't fit my personality at all. i'm too old to act like a vtuber i'll just be a normal and hopefully entertaining person.

>> No.18801877

On the topic of babis - I hate to bring politic-y shit here, but I'm a detransitioning woman, and I'm not sure whether to go with a male or female model. I'd hate to spring a man voice onto people and have to repeatedly explain myself, but being a male character would feel weird and kind of disingenuous. Any thoughts?

>> No.18801923

>>18801162
Same, pretty much. Except I change the reason every time I'm asked

>I've been smoking since I was 15!
>I was in a horrible baking accident
>I was at Chernobyl
>It's just my accent, don't worry about it

I really don't want to pander to a GF/BFE crowd either, for much the same reasons. I hope to encourage people to be better themselves, if anything really.

>>18801098
If you really have trouble being socially aware like that, it's best that you become self-aware of the pitfalls in your conversing skills and work to fix them. Additionally, just being genuinely excited about whatever it is your rambling on about is a huge bonus. If you're really fucking enthusiastic about [THING] and come off as such, it's infectious and entertaining in it's own right.

>> No.18802073

>>18801877
Just go with whatever you sound like, or will sound like down the road. Especially, if you can't really stand the idea of people giving you shit for being trans. Rather, you could go with a more ambiguous character. An alien or monster or a sentient car, I dunno.

In the end if you are uncomfortable your audience will notice that. So, avoid it.

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>> No.18803789

>>18794192
>choose which game you streamed first?
Pick a game you can autistically ramble on about for a long time. Start as you mean to go on, so try to avoid silent pauses in your streams, or times when you can't focus on your chat at all.
>Also, how should I go about gathering an audience for my first stream?
You won't. You can maybe drop links in a few places, but nobody will show up to your first few streams. And that's probably a good thing, as it lets you get the scuff out the way

>> No.18803795

>>18776550
>>18779238
>>18782871
Sadly noted. I guess I'll have to remove the sexual weirdos.

>> No.18803886

>>18791129
That is something I always wanted to know, how to use Twitter Efficiently. I have done several Tweets and I see people that just lazy tweet and have a better chance. One thing I always wanted to find is the more active hours for example but I can't find it anywhere.

>> No.18804183

>>18784994
>woman complaining about getting a lot of attention
you just know she's just pretending to get offended, she craves this shit.

>> No.18804242

>>18803886
Depends who is following you. If you attract a US audience, then post when they're online, or they'll miss it?
You're not going to be writing bangers that go super viral, anon. Don't worry about it.

>> No.18804351

>>18804242
When does the average american wake up?
Should I aim for 12 PM or got a bit futher and try at 5 PM Central? That kind of stuff

>> No.18804372

>>18790525
fang needs to be white, when it's not colored in manga it's out of lazyness. It always feels wrong.

>> No.18806096

Caruncle or no caruncle? Does it depend of the particular art style?

>> No.18807030

Shhh, /asp/ is sleeping

>> No.18808016

>>18807030
>chuuba's fans resemble them
>Anya's most defining trait is sleepyness
>Anyaposter is the most noticable anon here
>/asp/ is sleepy
Now that's some lore.

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i have made absolutely no progress in like a week solely because of my laziness

>> No.18808165

>>18711051
>indies are welcome to self post
Who will be the first

>> No.18808296

>>18808165
we aren't even streaming yet

>> No.18808935

Do you guys think it's important to make your own overlay/intro/outro and "soundtrack" or should one just pay for it/use free stuff since nobody cares about this anyway

>> No.18809107

>>18808935
The fact that you have to ask this means you arent big enough for this to matter. Use free stuff until you gain your own audience.

>> No.18809289

>>18808098
Well, one of the reason i become vtuber is because i want stop being lazy, hope you can do it too anon.

>> No.18809905

>>18808098
Me too man. I get demotivated pretty badly by my numbers but I pick myself up at the start of the week and try again always.

I'm streaming tonight and I'm pretty excited for it.

>> No.18810720

>>18760697
Maybe it's about that 2D models are easier to modify? With 3D you have to rework the model and have experience with 3D while with 2D you just draw stuff.

>> No.18810926

>>18810720
3D are definitely easier to both modify and expend upon. I think it's just easier to get started with 2D because it's cheaper, until you want more expressions, outfits, etc.

>> No.18811076

>>18810926
I actually would be interested in having more expressions, but dunno if 3D won't end up looking uncanny.

>> No.18811116

>>18790525
Yes, though like >>18804372 said, the flesh fang doesn't look good

>> No.18811452

do you guys think a design that hides most of your head with a mask or something (only eyes and maybe mouth visible) looks bad?

>> No.18811597

>>18811452
That's very vague. You'd have to give an example. We can't read your mind after all.

>> No.18811695

>>18795841
You have a good voice, you could definitely pull off an ikemen if you wanted to, as for the monotony, everybody can be a bit monotone when reading of a script

>> No.18811907

>>18794323
>>18803789
Noted. Thanks for the advice, guys

>> No.18812101

>>18811452
>mask
>eyes and mouth visible
For what purpose, might as well close one of them to save your time rigging

>> No.18812670

>>18811597
i guess it's hard to explain because i don't even have it fully figured out in my head yet
imagine something like Faust
>>18812101
i want to still have an expressive design

>> No.18812803

I have some people from my previous life i'd like to collab with but haven't spoken to in months, would it be too weird to go "Hey, I'm X, remember me?"?

>> No.18813516

Is it ok to use a "free" model to stream if you're just starting out? I got one of the template models from Live2Dcubism and changed the hair, shirt, and eye colors in the texture folder?

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>>18813516
one of these

>> No.18814785

>>18808935
There is a lot of free streaming assets around, for music I recommend Dova Syndrome

>> No.18814845

>>18808165
There's been dozens of /asp/ies that have selfposted already over the past year

>> No.18814913

>>18813516
yeah that's more than fine, I remember NiceEggy used an edit of the Koharu model for like a year until she got her own live2d

>> No.18815298

>>18814785
Another good one is White Bat Audio

>> No.18815341

>>18814845
i think anon means selfposting regularly instead of once for a design critique then never again.

>> No.18815648

I’m considering applying to Kawa entertainment but I’m worried about signing up for a sketchy company. Prism, Phase, and Cyberlive turned out fine but how did the first gen talents think it a good idea to go through with it initially?

>> No.18815708

>>18815648
>how did the first gen talents think it a good idea to go through with it initially?
they didn't. they just applied because it was a chance to larp being a corpo.

>> No.18815905

>>18784994
This type of behavior unfortunately just comes with the job. I’m a smol chuuba with a few hundred follows and even I’ve experienced it every now and then. Male btw. Streaming is kinda like management where you go from having fun to babysitting kids depending on the day of the week

>> No.18816074

>>18765179
VTube studio + playing new games might be demanding so keep that in mind. I learned the hard way

>> No.18816353

The more progress I see of my rigging the quicker I clean my shit hole of a desk to make way for the new one. I wonder if that man knows how much motivation he provides me

>> No.18816468

>>18811452
>>18812101
>hide most of your head
>expressive
You have to pick one. Masks are terrible for this and the only exception I can think of is something like Robin's mask from Teen Titans or other similar cartoon superhero ones that basically just replaces the eyes and is still capable of being somewhat expressive, but at that point why even have one? Don't do a mask, you're not mysterious or edgy and it will only look bad.

>>18812803
At this point this isn't Vtuber advice, learn how to properly socialize with human beings.

>> No.18816515

>>18816353
I wish I didn't relate so heavily to this. Whatever it takes!

>> No.18816571

>>18815648
>Bring your own assets
>Bring your own equipment
>Forced to move to Youtube
Jesus h christ. Is this standard for indie agencies?

>> No.18816616

>>18816515
All the money I spent on this thing? Probably motivates me the most.

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