/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1822314
https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1374340869990445057

she's preparing for her return, now stronger than ever

I miss her so much bros ;_;

>>1822342
Enter, Waachama

>>1822342
https://youtu.be/pwPkB9O3uzI

Chuubas who have acknowledged Haachama's absence:

1)Anya
2)Coco
3)Miko
4)Jobson

Who else?

I’m eagerly awaiting her return!

>>1822557
Noel made a haachama cooking joke in a english stream and according to global robocco sang the haachama cooking song today, didn't see it though

If she ever comes back, it won't be the same. No more haachama cooking shitposts, no more asmr, no goth loli costume and no 3D lives. How are you gonna cope, Haatons?

chama in the minecraft server now...

>>1822684
Fuck you, you made me look

2 more weeks
trust the plan

>>1822682
>No goth loli costume
It's ok, they made her a whole new live2D rig

>>1822726
sorry, I misread 'konrushi' as 'konrujyu'

>>1822684
>>1822682

>>1822314
i was thinking haatons are overly dramatic but it really has been awhile.... the fucc did she go

>>1823651
She's depressed and wants to quit
Her best friend in EN had to tweet about wanting her to come back to see it can convince her to stay
It's not looking good for you Haatons

She should quit. Fuck Cover.

>>1823717
>She's depressed and wants to quit
completely understandable that she's depressed but wanting to quit is like the worst case scenario from all this. well shit.......

Stay strong brothers.

>>1823651
University prep.

>>1822351
>hI HoW aRe yOU?

>>1823760
you don't know what's best for her, underage retard.

>>1822682
Far as I can tell the only yab thing they've nixed is dark jokes and potentially dirty jokes too?

>>1823760
You should commit suicide.

DAY 18! GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 18!

>>1824013
rrat: This was all planned and Haachama will be EN 2

>>1822314
started a new blood bowl league and Haachama died on the first fucking play boys

I will be here waiting Haachama forever

Wait, is her English way better than what she shows in stream? pronunciation, vocabulary and grammar??

>>1829952
Her vocabulary and grammar are better, every now and then she accidentallys a word when writing but that's about it

>>1822314
You don't watch them anyway

>>1822314
The second best time of my life. The true best time of my life is that time when Haachama and Coco were suspended.

>>1830374
Holometh > your fave vtuber

>>1829952
I have yet to see an example where she sustains it for longer than 5 seconds. Reading her lines makes her sound better.

>>1824783
ive been looking for you my nigga

Guys, it's been too long. I have fallen into the void and become a Haachama anti. I am formulating rrats as we speak.

>>1831235
damnit we lost one.

>no more cock rating streams
>no more +18 fanart contests
>no more cooking
>no more marturbation asmr
>no more schizo lore
Do I have even a single reason to live at this point?

>>1822314
okay chang.

>>1823717
ogey rrat.
>>1824013
per youtube's shit she has to knock off the suicide/mental illness stuff. anon just keeps blowing shit out of proportion thanks to a clipfag's questionable translations of a coco stream and the usual internet faggotry.
>>1831636
you probably never had one in the first place, faggot.

>>1832001
! Rabid Haaton alert !

>>1822314
Does anyone have Haachama highlights?

>>1823793
Don't believe everything you read on 4chan lad

>>1832432
The archive of the schizo arc usually comes up at least once every chama thread, aside from that most of her short vids and the 3D shitpost are still up on her channel

>>1832515
>Haachama is happy and everything is fine
>Source: believe ME, lad

haachama has been AWAYed

>>1831299
Haachama pushed the boundary on sexual content because of much simpler desires, companionship and adoration. While studying at high school in Australia, Haachama was truant, had no friends, was bullied, and hardly interacted with anyone else at all. Performing ever more outrageous stunts on her livestreams boosted her viewership and superficially filled the social void she was stuck inside.
Her antics had the consequence of attracting a low-brow crowd of new followers and members, however. She humored their desires for more crass and lewd content. Chats would then blow up with the primal fury of a thousand coomers. Although Haachama had in the past used some lewdness as humor, she discovered something new within herself. It was the feeling of sexual empowerment over men. It was an intoxicating power to wield. She now felt not only accepted, she was desired.
JP bros and older EN fans were disappointed with the direct Haachama was taking with her content. To them, Haachama was more of a familial character, akin to a younger sister or daughter misbehaving at the computer. Although her attempts at sexual appeal seemed laughable and cringe at first, Haachama kept pushing that type of content and doubled down with coomerbait thumbnails. The situation was awkward and felt like a friend or family member inviting you to watch their hentai debut. Eventually, the Old Guard of Haatons realized that Haachama's membership was slowly becoming somewhat of a softcore porn subscription.
The older Haachama fans tried to spam silly requests to offset the lewd ones. However, Haachama herself would purposefully insert lewdness on her own regardless of what her fans wanted. Some Haatons loudly proclaimed their disastifaction on Twitter but Haachama would block them. At one point, Haatons had to turn on her and contacted her manager directly. She had been planning to do members-only livestreams where she would purposefully play a game of ban chicken with Youtube. This was simply too much for the Haatons and they had to bonk the one they loved.
To this day, the turmoil has not completely subsided. However, Haachama is so likable that the disgrountled Haatons await the passing of this "phase" of content. She would still be in an era of experimentation with content, but they were willing to ride the rollercoaster once more. Perhaps the old Haachama, the new Haachama, old fans, and new fans would have to learn to #coexist. Sadly, the hiatus happened and the future is unclear.

>>1833225
Good one but the old/new haaton rrat is getting overused by that other shitposter. Other than that 9/11 bretty gud

>>1833366
Except this is literally what happened.

>>1833600
>>1833366
I made up the very last part for flavor but I wrote this based on hearsay. I cannot provide any proof of the claims because it would involve knowledge of Japanese to translate old tweets and read the JP Haachama Fan Discord. It would also be necessary to watch a lot of her old videos, many of have which have been deleted, to read the chat.

>>1833724
The best way is to watch her fan submission streams and compilations, then you can see the JPs torturing her with feet clips and other insanity even back in mid 2019

>>1833724
-huge chunks of her old fans leaving: True. In fact it has happened twice now.
-her blocking people who complain about her: True. She has an extremely thin skin and can take almost no criticism
-Reviewing literal porn on her member stream: True. The genitals were completely visible. Her fans reported her stream to hololive management thinking her retardation was going to get her entire channel banned and they took it down the next day.

>>1833850
It was 2020 and she was the one who requested people send her videos about their feet to bring them down to her level since in a previous stream she talked about how her feet stinks. So she wanted to do a stream to humiliate her fans' feet. Contrary to popular EOP believe she does not have a foot fetish. It's one of the most often repeated narrative owing to that one shit "translation" but EOPs being EOPs they just repeat it over and over again with absolutely no basis because that's all they have to go with. The same thing happened with her multiple personality horseshit. It was something that the EOPs made up entirely on their own until she decided she wanted to use it herself this year.

>>1834025
ogey

>>1834082
>I have no argument: The post
Thanks for playing. Come back with some actual background next time you want to have discussion.

>>1834188
Take those dubs back to /jp/ with you

>>1834216
This is precisely why EOP newfag fans will forever be seen as a drooling bunch of retards. You actively choose to remain ignorant despite all the proof to the contrary. Instead of working harder to get information verified knowing you have the disability of not understanding what she says you all instead double down on retarded narratives.

>>1834216
For fucks sake anon, this is 18th thread, you should've learned to ignore this (you) farmin shizo and his bullshit rrats by now

>>1834886
We've tried ignoring him, we need to enact the final solution

>>1834216
>>1834886
>>1835154
samefag

>>1834025
I'm trying to find that member stream. It has to be tucked away somewhere on the Internet.

>>1834025
This is fascinating
Im fairly new to being a haaton, I had no idea this stuff happened

>>1834025
I also heard that she did some kind of stream where she had chat criticize her. Do you know anything about that?

But for real, where the fuck is HAACHAMA?

>>1836274
It's odd. She rarely gets any criticism here aside from "her schizo arc sucks." The general sentiment is that she should do whatever she wants, Cover be damned.

>>1831154
Luv me chama
Miss me chama
Cope by posting Mr krabs
Simple as.

>>1836427
You might be referring to the anti appreciation stream she did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XqoCiXDtwQ

Back then it seemed like an extremely brave thing to do as since she read some legit anti fanmail and vowed to take the criticism to heart and improve as a person. Too bad almost none of it stuck and she has since become hostile to almost any form of criticism and would just block long time Japanese fans for simply saying they didn't like her last stream.

>>1835740
August 20th.

>>1822314
what happened to her made me hate cover. i dont know what kind of management would do this to their talent and fans, but something is seriously wrong when you stifle creative content like that. i hope she just leaves it for good and finds happiness in life because she wont find it being covers bitch.

>>1836682
Most of the people who would criticize her have long since left her. She probably has the worst fan retention rate of any holo girl in the company.

>>1836682
Thats fair I guess, I share a similar sentiment. The schizo arc definitely felt like it got dragged on a bit. Still a shame that it didnt get a proper conclusion and she wont have creative liberty anymore though

>>1837227
Never knew that haachama blocks fans, is this hearsay or is there actual proof of this?

>>1837492
I was bored of the schizo arc by the time it was forcibly shut down, but now I am very pro-schizo arc as a result.

>>1837538
Go on the Haachama discord and ask them. Some of them are members of the Japanese only fan server and a lot of Japanese fans have reported being blocked.

Whether or not her idea was successful or beloved i would have at least liked to see it end. Im pretty sure she would have just moved onto something different regardless. To let a channel with 1 mil subs die all because your boss doesnt agree with the direction is some shit hollywood execs would pull.

>>1837227
Thank you friend. I was able to use the date to find a live discussion of the stream. At least I know what is being asked now. It would have been great if someone had subbed this one.

>>1837583
you sure i wont just get instabanned for "stirring shit" lol

>>1837729
You could use the search function to dig up some old discussions. It has been discussed several times.

>>1837703
Too Japanese for most subbers. Even the stream where she talked about her life in Australia only had a tiny portion of it subbed. The entire thing was an hour long and she was going at mach speed talking about her entire experience for the whole 3 years. No ESL N99 subber is going to touch it.

>>1837729
Search for posts with the username Walrus#3782 and the word "block." He is like the historian of the server.

>>1837914
Yeah him. There used to be another guy who could pinpoint almost any event in Haachama's streaming career and provide the source for it but I think he quit after the schizo arc.

>>1837990
I feel slightly ashamed that I laughed at that.

>>1838025
What's funny about it?

>>1837227
I wish she went back to using her old avatar for crazy stuff too, I’m kinda bored of the goth loli one

>>1838039
I dunno really, just that it was at that particular point. In my opinion it seems not as bad as the other things she has done in the past. Perhaps it was simply the straw that broke the camel's back.

>>1822620
>>1822557
Kiara too, during her rant of when chat was spamming her to check up on Mori, she mentioned that she checks up on everyone, "I check up on Calli, Haachama, Ina, Ame, and Gura without you all having to tell me" is what she said more specifically.

>>1838070
She needs to drop the retarded multiple personality crap first and just act like she normally did before it for that to happen again.

>>1838123
Heh, Haachama EN0 indeed.

When does the pain subside?

Once again it's all Covers fault for banning her darker content. There are literally thousands of channels that read stories that are far vile and disturbing then her content and they're doing perfectly fine. One guy i know of even has 7 million subs. This is all a plan by Cover so they can be more marketable for more money. Greedy Bastards

She's going to make a twitch debut

>>1822620
>haachama cooking song
How fucking new? TKG no uta is not haachama's song. A fan made a haachama rendition that she has since used in every haachama cooking. Shit like this makes you look fucking retarded.

>>1838331
Ogey chong

>>1838331
No fucking shit they need to be marketable. No fucking shit they're stamping out her retarded crap since they are an idol group. Cover did nothing wrong.

>>1838385
That's all you have to say huh? Look up a youtuber named Corpse Husband. He literally reads fucked up stories as one of the main videos he makes. and he's been doing fine.

>>1838113
I've seen people who were worried about her during her 3 week taiwan ban now say they couldn't give less of a crap about her anymore. The schizo stuff legit turned a lot of old fans off.

>>1838416
>it's fine for all chuubas to be shackled to making the same generic seiso content so a bunch of suits can maintain a brand and make more money
t. chugs gallons of corporate semen faster than should be humanly possible

>>1838448
That's tell, not show
Look up muiltiple instances of youtubers getting their videos removed for showing gore content on skits. It was only matter of time until youtube hit Haato and it's entirely her fault for draging this shit for way too long

She could quit being a vtuber and just be herself, doing cooking IRL shows on twitch and make double the money she made before. Not being shackled to a company or personality would be the best thing for her.

I miss her too, Ame.

>>1838532
>Muh same content
There's plenty of other shit Haato can do that doesn't involve decapitation and schizophrenia. If she wants to do the same things as the others, that's her choice.

>>1830374
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>>1838455
That's a damn shame. I'm sorry to hear that.

>>1838633
>There's plenty of other shit Haato can do
*as long as it fits within you and Cover's definition of "idol group" standards, which are undefined and may change at any time by company fiat.

Enough is enough. Haachama must quit Cover and spill all their corporate secrets, leak every girl's info, burn Cover to the ground, then go zero dark thirty and hide out in the Australian badlands for the rest of her life.

>>1838680
Standards that she knew about when she signed a contract to work at Cover

Pic related is the average hololive fan huh? pretty depressing honestly.

Is this a zhang raid?

>>1838760
Obviously not considering she was allowed to make the content for months despite having a manager, and considering other talent (e.g. Coco) has openly had to change their content in light of the "new" rules. If anything about this was in their contracts from day 1 Cover was not enforcing it until recently.

>>1838821
No, what makes you think that?

>>1838802
Not really depressing, they did a great job producing some amazing content, so people became very dedicated. That's what happens when you earn people's trust and when you don't inject politics into your work like western whores and faggots.

>>1838830
She was allowed until the last video which obviously must have crossed the line. The new rule didn't affect her other video; she deleted them out of saltiness

>>1838802
That applies to almost everything idol related

>>1838821
Why does any criticism automatically make people think of a Boogeyman. This fanbase has more boogeyman then /pol/ at this point.

>>1838609
Aww, Ame is so lovely. I love her.

>>1838455
Not gonna lie, I found her schizo stuff interesting and original, and I loved that she was finally injecting something actually new into vtubing, but it kind of dragged on. Never stopped supporting her, though (not financially, obviously).

>>1838964
Then why didn't she just release an edited version that satisfied management and was on the same level as the previous ones? How do you explain Coco's discussion of the "new" policies?

>>1838905
All these retards jumping at Cover for literally protecting Haato's channel. They want whatever excuse to turn people against thr company

>>1839009
>Then why didn't she just release an edited version that satisfied management and was on the same level as the previous ones?
Because she's stubborn and wanted to release the unedited thing
The new policy is there to prevent other talents from going too far with the dark jokes

>>1839107
>The new policy is there to prevent other talents from going too far with the dark jokes
So you admit there *is* a new policy in place about dark humor, meaning there was no such policy until recently and Haato was largely singled out and blindsided by it.

>>1839043
Here channel was doing better than ever before they shut down the schizo arc and I have seen no evidence it was in any danger from Youtube or otherwise because of those videos. As other anons have pointed out far more extreme content is currently up, unflagged, on YT by various other large channels.

>>1839107
How did she go too far with dark jokes? I hope you don't think a fake 2D fake avatar taking its head off with no blood and guts is dark. You sound just like the people in 90s who were horrified of violence in video games. when its not real.

>>1839214
See >>1838587
>>1839166
If this post >>1834025 is anything to go by, Haato's own carelessness is what prompted the creation of that new rule behading is largely censored in Japanese media
>>1839229
It's not about, for all I care she can show gore all she wants, but Japan literally has laws against depictation of behading in most media, so Cover had no choice but to shut that shit down

>>1838455
Nobody complained about the schizo arc on here before it was banned. It's a vocal minority

>>1839540
>it's Japan's fault, not Cover's
Okay, it's shit either way.

>>1839540
Depiction*
It's not about me*

>>1839540
So JOP's and Japan's conformity culture is to blame then. EOP's are harmless in comparison.

>>1839741
Aside from being highly annoying, attention-whoring, talking about unrelated garbage in chat, and just cancer in general, yeah EOPs are harmless.

>>1839887
All things you can easily ignore while JOPS are the reason we have so many Ark Apex and Minecraft streams.

Haachama was graduated at a black site two weeks ago.

>>1839942
Take your own advice. If you don't like it don't watch it.

>retard anon trying to frame being pro-chama as a zhang raid
>still refuses to admit he only hates haato because she speaks english and was never a haaton in the first place
How many more threads to satisfy his autism

>>1840950
Haato is not entirely innocent in this situation
She used illegal content (by japanese laws and youtube guidelines) on her streams and abused the freedom she was given by Cover by dragging the schizo series for too long

>>1837332
There is an archive somewhere?

At least the cover apologist realizes she must've been suspended the rest of you are braindead.

>>1839214
>and I have seen no evidence it was in any danger from Youtube
Wasn't one of the videos removed due to community guidelines. I feel like I saw a screenshot floating around.

>>1842213
She used a hentai thumbnail for one of her streams (Red Heart) before it started. It got taken down but she made another one.

>>1833225
I don't know of anyone that would get horny with Haachama. This is like my neighbor's kid, who always teases and plays around. She doesn't actually want to fuck. You have to remember that Haachama is just a kid, and this is like her saying "penis, penis, penis" to be provocative. I doubt she has any actual sexual experience. Only perverts read into that shit more than they have to.

>>1834025
>Reviewing literal porn on her member stream
Chamers...

>>1842338
Haachama yes, now ascended Haato knows how to get me going like no other

>>1842415
unmeasurably based

Wait for early April when the academic year start in japan, she must be applying to universities now, because her mom want her to study and have a back up plan for when the vtuber thing end.

rrat

>>1841351
>She used illegal content
t. Absolute fucking retard

What's with the ESLs ITT jfc

>>1839540
I don't think that law about decapitation has any standing on a american website

>>1833225
>>1833366
>>1833600
>>1833724
>>1833850
>>1834025

This narrative answers many things.

Why Haachama wanted to belong to Hololive En: She wanted to get rid of the unwanted hardcore JOP Anti completely. They wanted to "kill" her because they thought Chama had become a traitor. Because of she changed and the production of English and the lighter, perverted content. They began to harass her, and her superiors.

Management banned her from the English group. They feared that new-Haachama's global English-language publicity would jeopardize the company. This fear developed not only in them because of Chama, but also because of the Taiwan incident.
Therefore, the En group was restricted in everything. Members do not play together, there are no multiplayer games. Collaborations are practised on a script. Ina has confirmed this information several times in the last two weeks. They are afraid they will do something that would endanger the company. Unannounced Collabs are banned. Neither the Japanese nor the Indonesian group are subject to such hard regulations.

Akai Haato’s retro Minecraft stream was the result of management.
The anti, which thought of themselves as "old fans", achieved its goal in management. And Haachama began to hate her fans.
She built up the schizo Arc to force her will, and chase away less manageable fans, but the saviour anti report her to the leadership again, who punished Haachama.

Result:
1: Haachama is graduating
2: Haachama will return, but she will hate us even more. No more plus towards fans. She will consider streaming as work, not trying to be interesting. She will play Apex and Minecraft but in the most boring way possible. She will produce reaction videos from her own old videos. Streams will be less frequent. She will make an NSFW channel where she will produce Asmr for her perverts, just like Ca**n.

Thank you for saving Her, what a great job.

>>1842415

>>1842415
>>1843380

>>1843263
Reasonably I think EN managers were worried Haachama would smother the branch with her stronger personality, should have eased up when half the girls have passed her in fanbase numbers though. Aside from Watson I don't think there's much fan overlap so it wouldn't even be leeching

>>1843380
>your membership is now a prostitution subscription
>didn't even wait to see if "ban RTA" was always going to be lewds or if she would do other members streams between RTAs
What a bunch of overreacting faggots

I can believe the rrat about her blocking critics but seeing how she already had to deal with her old host family and bullies at school, it was likely just a coping mechanism.

And if her fan turnover is really is that high, the fact she reached a million as fast as she did is more impressive.

I only got into her streams when the first lockdowns were happening last year, but I find her personality as an unpredictable wild card more entertaining than a tsundere loli Queen of Hearts.

>>1843535
>>1843380

>>1843380
>>1843535
All this proves is that JOPS are retarded. If i stop liking somebodys content. I'll stop watching it.

>>1843736
She probably got in the habit during the chink raid, it was more focused on coco but i'm sure she had more than a handful to deal with. And yeah, if her old fans drop her that quick no wonder she starting going for a more stable audience

>>1843781
>>1843652
It's because of this sentiment.
>>1842338

>>1844091
i hope the JOPS that have a problem with this also have a problem with Noel and Mel's roommate content. Seems hypocritical if they don't

>>1844091

>>1844186
I actually respect these folks for memeing on Haachama.

>>1844091
>haato works a "like favorite and subscribe" in the middle of a hentai voice line reading
At least I got a laugh out of these screencaps

>>1844229
When your fans also kinda your antis!

>>1844338

>>1844378
A few people on discord is not an entire fanbase.

>>1844686
Yeah, you're right. I should have said when some of your biggest fans are your biggest critics.

>>1844774
That's usually the case, acting like an abusive dad because your daughterfu stepped out of line isn't criticism though

Just imagine how crazy she would be if she made an alt and streamed on Mildom on the side.
It would be fun to see Haato stream without any restrictions from YouTube or Cover at least once.

>>1845056
She might not be up for it.

>>1845227

>>1842415
I am so pathetic I can't find it even though I have the filename now,

I feel like there's definitely a double standard when it comes to criticism though. Of course People can shit on Haachama she's EOP bait. But you don't dare criticize any of the others. and Don't you dare criticize Coco. and if you do oh boy

>>1823651
Just like our oshi. I've quit lucrative jobs over much less.

>>1844839
I think JP bros and EN Old Guard were just exhausted by the roller coaster ride she kept putting them through which her impulsiveness. Eventually you laugh instead of crying. No one actually insults her on Twitter or anything like that.

>>1845959
there was always going to be a shift because cover switched from having talents fill a pre-designed role to designing the characters around the girls. Even Sora is trying to give up the "kizuna ai clone" personality, obviously harder because she still has to be the face of the company though. Chama probably just had too much of pretending to be Haato while dealing with being stuck in straya

haachama cant possibly deny her autist EN cousin right

>>1846224
Enma isn't gonna like this

>>1846238
>>1846224
she took a week's worth of SCs from ame for tweeting that

>>1844774
Yeah, but oftentimes the biggest fans of any kind of performer fall into the trap of never wanting them to change, and wanting them to only do stuff that fits the fanbase's conception of them. So if the artist listens to those fans, they get stale, but if they wildly experiment all the time like she does, everyone wonders what the fuck they're doing and yells at them to stop.
>>1845227
>political
>very special word
lmao are they referring to Taiwan? Is this a fucking changcord you're showing us?

>>1846780

>>1846534
I agree that she should be able to experiment. However she doesn't stick to a schedule and is notoriously bad at keeping promises. She should work on that.

>>1846892
maybe if she takes up the holohouse offer, right now she has to stream around her family which is part of what drove the beginning of the split personality arc in the first place

>>1846930
you forgot your meds

It seems all the covers of English songs by Haachama were privated.

>>1847343
just recently? I'm seeing it now in the playlist but I don't remember what most of those vids were

>>1847343
Not all, but yeah

Does anyone know which ones? God damnit not country roads......

>>1847343
>shape of you cover goes bye bye
is she rebelling

>>1847416
John Denver - Take Me Home, Country Roads (Cover by Akaihaato)
Worth it - Fifth Harmony ft.Kid Ink (metal cover by Akaihaato)
Uptown Funk- Mark Ronson ft. Bruno Mars(cover by HAACHAMA)
Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now (cover by Akaihaato)
Ed Sheeran - Shape Of You (cover by Akaihaato)
All I Want For Christmas Is You - Mariah Carey (cover)

>>1847416
at least we have this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaTY4MYXw0o

>>1847498
Oh fuck not shape of you......

If it’s copyright related, then why the fuck didn’t they make sure of that before?

>>1847343
only english songs? is this a birth of a new rrat

Come to think of it, antis could be reporting all the shit they can and they decided to private as a countermeasure

>>1847544
Yea, it's weird. Half the songs are post Holocaust so it would be weird for Cover to care so much about game permissions then to just give Haachama the go ahead to do English covers without proper permissions

>>1847545
No because there’s still other “English” stuff up (Echo), this is definitely a copyright thing

>>1847544
>>1847616
small indie company, prease understand. Also not sure if all those are under the same label, music rights are retarded, we should see if other holos are privating covers too

>>1847545
It's an older rrat/somewhat true that management has been trying to force her to stop focusing on EN so much, don't think this is part of that though

>>1847645
how can she have a peace of mind when she's been sitting her ass for 2 weeks trying to come to terms with what happened and yet her songs are getting taken down. this is too much

>>1847545
The rrat would be that management is pushing her away from doing EN content.

>>1847678
I think Polka just tweeted something about licensing and a talk with mane-chan buuuut that might be entirely unrelated

>>1847826
Yeah, it’s like going through the same thing with her hard work just getting privated yet again

This is definitely copyright, or antis reporting

>>1847933
Yeah, wayback's last archive was on the 16th so can't even see if it was a just now thing

>>1847868
It actually could be but it's in a member-only post. This all might have something to do with what got Suisei demonetized.

>>1847933
No way Antis are this organized. Probably just Cover being retarded once again just like the Holocaust

>>1822314
I just discovered her channel. Is it gross that I want to slurp up Hachamas cooking?

>>1848475
dig in, you have to build up your tolerance to red bull first though

>>1848321
Yes, but a part of the holocaust was antis reporting stuff (from what I remember).

It really only takes a small group to poke holes while someone’s away and vulnerable

>>1822314
>>1833225
Without Haachama, Hololive is boring as all fuck. I don't think I care too much about a trio of (pure, adorable) sluts being drunk on an off meetnig and slutty or whatever new Apex stunt happened. I'm considering digging out of the rabbit hole.

>>1847616
Fucking everybody else in the company stopped singing English songs or would delete the stream after doing so. Haachama either didn't care or didn't get the memo. This shit is entirely on her.

>>1848782
Just enjoy the archives for now, hololive is getting to a point where they're able to catch up to their growth, we just have to see now if they keep the wackiness or go all in on playing it safe for the mainstream. It isn't looking good though

But does Ahegao'nis have some Haachama dox?

>>1834025
And yet Haachama is always the smart one, picks up on memes and small details very quick, made the "hand them over (your toes)" song to fuck with those antis too and much more. The only way to stop the Saikyou was to make her away, indeed.

The fact that so many of you don't know about any of this just goes to show how many newfags were only drawn in by her schizo arc. You people have no idea who she is.

>>1848475
post your favorite haachama dish

>>1848475
From her stove or from her butt?

>>1847343
It was earlier today because I was just looking at her shape of you cover.

Being a selfish insubordinate little brat in a company isn't going to get her anywhere. If she can't deal with it she should just fucking quit.

>>1849026
You don't even watch her in the first place you schizo. You only post in these threads because EOP's live rent free in your head.

>>1849159
Away with you

>>1849159
Fuck off Yagoo. Go back to playing Ping Pong

>>1849159
t. never had a job before

>>1849166
Of course I watch her. You obviously don't given you're a pathetic EOP newfag.

>>1849159
make like a pepeloni and away

>>1849194
I've been watching since 2019 when she did her first english ring fit stream. Why do you hate EOP's so much?

>>1849171
>>1849180
>>1849182
>>1849195
t. triggered retarded newfags. Haachama will never be allowed to do what she wants again and I for one cannot be happier. I laff at your seething. There isn't a goddamn thing you fags can do about it. Boycott cover? Good fucking luck with your flimsy convictions you'll be right back tomorrow like the good doggies you are.

I get that it's probably copyright, but haachamanager doing all this shit stealthily is pretty worrying. They could at least give a "sorry, sony entertainment is being jewish again" on the cover twitter

>>1849222
he's either a troll or a 70 year old grandpa, he enters every thread and complains about newfags non-stop

>>1849230
Go back to r3ddit with the other tryhard faggots

>>1849239
It's happening to them all.

>>1849309
Wallow in your powerlessness.

>>1849247
I like to think that Poster is Enma who's so pissed off with Haachama, She's become a Schizo

>>1849247
Well if he's the one who was posting screenshots from the chang discord in this thread, he's a particularly whacked out bug.

>>1849230
She will be back and definitely keep spiting autists like you, just like she did before. She hates you so deal with it and kill yourself like a good nip autist.

>>1849419
Corporate policies say nope. Retards keep losing.

>>1849398
>chang discord
Are you a particular brand of retarded? That's the biggest English Haato fan discord in existence.

I have been reporting every single one of her English song covers using my 100 fake youtube accounts. I have also been reporting all her ecchi art reviews. You heard it here first. Those will be the next things to go. I won't stop until her channel has been scrubbed clean of all the cancer and all that's left is the pure orthodox idol.

>>1849500
The Average Idolfag everybody!!!

>>1849500
Kind of based, in a way

It's beautiful! Let's hit 1 million deleted views boys!

>>1849538
Woops. I mean 10 million! Let's fucking go Cover!

>>1849538
>watch haachama videos on loop to cope and show support
>Cover just deletes the views
What did they mean by this

>>1822314
>>1822342
She mentioned her during the Moona and Ollie collab too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okuGibvAAJE&t=2025s

>>1849461
Sure it is. So tell me, what did they mean by
>they political side of things
>very special word
in >>1845227

This fanbase is so tiring...
In a way it reminds me almost of the Final Fantasy fanbase in vtuber form, where because the subject is changing her brand constantly, you have a majorly split fanbase, and it's extremely tedious to deal with all the people who want her to be one or another thing instead of accepting all of it is her

>>1849683
You can stay retarded if that's your choice. It's not my job to dig into a conversation I've never seen before just to explain it to your dumb fag ass.

>>1849727
lmao ok chang

>>1849735
Stay retarded then. You're just reinforcing the newfag stereotype.

>>1849683
They're not against Haato because she mentioned Taiwan, they were just saying that it caused a controversy from chinks.

>>1849689
Geez it's almost like people have come to have a certain expectation from an established brand and if the brand strays too far from its origins people get pissed and the product almost always ends up being shit because they tried to pander to the lowest common denominator in pursuit of a larger audience and more money. Niche products are always better than those with mass appeal. See capeshit movies and COD.

>>1849791
JOP’s must have Sore Knees from kneeling so much

>>1849791
They're using the exact same language as the chinks do when they're dogwhistling about Taiwan.
>>1849779
the poison king sleeps soundly in her $9000 bed and you're still seething

>>1849626
Making an example out of the insubordinate bitch.

>>1849823
Chinks living 24 hours in your head are robbing you of even the most basic mental faculties. You're so fucking retarded it's hilarious. It only takes 2 seconds to check the contents of the discord and yet you choose to drill your head into the ground and proclaim your retardation to the whole world.

>>1849817
That'd be fair, if her original character wasn't the blandest thing ever with acceptable appeal to begin with

>>1849886
not interested in your tranny chang discord. which 2hu do you dress up as when you play mahjong with your buddies? anyway stay angry, zhangy. you will never occupy Taiwan

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Happy now.
There are no more bugs in this thread so you guys can stop talking about them.

>>1849945
this should be on OP of every thread by default

>>1849931
Have you ever seen anyone be this proud that they're retarded?

>>1849945
Why do you people still think this works? If they can use a vpn to bypass the firewall why would this stop them?

>>1849962
if you actually watched hololive streams, you wouldn't have to ask, zhao

>>1849927
She had her own brand of appeal that no other girl had. The only reason you're saying this is because you haven't watched her old streams.

>>1849972
Because most vpns are blocked on 4chan.
Sure you can use them for youtube and twitter but decent sites block the popular ones that bugs would no doubt use.

>>1849983
You're easily taking the top prize for most retarded person on the internet today, guy, and boy that's an achievement!

>>1849993
So if they're not using a vpn why would this stop them? Have you ever seen chinks magically disappear once someone post this?

>>1822314
She is missing until she can renegotiate her contract with cover.

>>1850034
I actually didn't even consider this till now, but this seems plausible
Would make a ton of sense anyway

>>1849993
afaik they only block more well-known publicly-available exit nodes, so if you roll your own or use a someone else's private one, you can get past it. also for some strange reason I've found that the expressvpn israel exit is often unblocked. And, you can use a pass to get around the issue, and considering that the bugs pay for Coco memberships and spachas to shit up her streams, I wouldn't put it past some of the more obsessed ones to pay for a pass to be Coco & Haato antis here. I mean, it sounds insane, but they're insane.
>>1850025
your insults are really repetitive but I wouldn't expect better from a bug

>>1850108
>for some strange reason I've found that the expressvpn israel exit is often unblocked.
Must be left over from Moots time.

>>1850108
A retard by any other name would still be just as retarded. Why should I exert the extra effort?

>>1850197
because you being lazy brings great shame to your family and ancestors and you will not be able to cultivate to the first ascension of expert class

>>1850229
Says the guy too fucking handicapped to spend 2 seconds opening a discord server in order to not make a complete assclown out of himself.

>>1850241
zhangchama, installing glowware on my computer and going to your chinese tranny chatroom isn't anywhere on the list of things I care to do in this life or the next. why on earth would I want to read garbage from a group of chink antis?

>>1850292
Stop. People really shouldn't be allowed to be this stupid by choice.

>>1850335
yes yes, we've already established that you're a Haachama anti, do you have anything else to say? Such as, "I recognize Taiwan's right to exist as a free state, independent from the People's Republic of China and the Chinese Communist Party." C'mon, lets see you type that shit out.

>>1850401
Yes Taiwan is a de facto sovereign nation held back only by the fact that western powers lost their balls and would rather pander to chink money than stand up to them.

You're still absolutely retarded beyond measure and would rather shift topics because your retarded ass has no where left to manoeuvre except double down on your own own stupidity.

>>1850455
No no no, anon, those exact words, starting with "I recognize Taiwan." That's the important bit, the one that can get you sent to Xi's summer camp for dissidents. And the topic is you being a chink Haachama anti who shits all over every thread about her to turn people against her and each other.

>>1850518
Chinks don't care about Haachama. You would know this if you weren't an absolute newfag. Nothing happened to her until Coco mentioned Taiwan but please, keep exposing how much of a retarded newfag you are with every post you make.

>Haato Schizo so blown out he has to resort to bringing up the chinese because he has no argument
Get a grip man

>>1850553
Were we talking about you harassing her because of Taiwan? Nope. But you just admitted it with
>nothing happened to her until Coco mentioned Taiwan
Meaning that something happened to her. Specifically the chinks harassing her. And it seems like you and your buddies on discord harass her for all kinds of things besides that, send complaints to Cover whenever she crosses some boundary of yours, etc. Combine that with your dogwhistling about Taiwan, and it's not too hard to see what's going on, zhangchama.

>>1850553

Shut the fuck up

NGA was preparing to attack Haachama but after 8 hours in that faithful night Coco accident happened.

They just change traget to Coco

That why " Coco take bullet for Haachama come from" because NGA want to make Haachama graduation in the first place!!!

See NGA forum in 20+ september last year . You will find proof

Well, I have to admit, this fucking schizo anti who is haunting those threads managed to do one thing. Now instead of hating on Cover for their retarded rules changes I'd rather hate on old 'fans' and thin skinned JOPs that sabotage Chammers content instead of moving on. Hope she will do everything to away! this old cancergroup from her channel.

>>1850680
ogey retard. Seems you're tripling down on your retardation now.

>>1850680
Chinks didn't harass her unless she appeared with Coco and that applies to every other girl so she's not special in anyway.

Meds

>>1850980
Reporting content that breaks the rules is commendable. Retarded enablers like you will get her banned for real one day and by then you'll be sorry her real fans weren't working hard enough to protect her from all this retardation.

>>1850980
Same feelings here
I used to be neutral about this and ok with anything she'll do, but now I actually hope she comes back as Haachama more than Haato

>>1851030
HAACHAMA is my meds

>>1851048
They are literally the same fucking person. Or do you buy into her dumb schizo act?

just burn these threads to the ground, too many rrats not enough meds

>>1851070
I mean obviously not, but we are talking the type of content she'd do, I figured anyway was the underlying thing in question here?

>>1851041
That's not your role. She has agency as an adult human being, needs to make mistakes, and face consequences to grow as a person. Playing helicopter parent and trying to control her under the guise of "protectiion" is fucking disgusting. If you don't like what she does, simply fuck off and don't watch.

>>1851107
Nah I'll keep reporting dumb shit to Cover so they'll keep her on a tighter leash. She's been doing whatever the fuck she wants for way too long now and it's about time Cover did their fucking job and produced her like a proper idol agency should.

>>1851116
Fucking leech.

>>1851123
Shut the fuck up EOP faggot and go back to your trannycord.

>>1851145
Seethe. I get what I want because Cover is already coming down hard on her. If she quits because she's too much of a little bitch to follow orders then she wasn't Hololive material to begin with and the company will be better off without her.

>>1851168
If you're serious, you're gonna part of the reason the company will become irrelevant if anything
No reason not to simply go and watch an indie or other company's vtuber if all of them are the same shit (which to an extent is already true for many Holos as is)

>>1851216
Feel free to fuck off then.

Can meidos ban this guy please.

>>1851123
They were never a proper idol agency

>>1851244
Why? Because you're a thin-skinned faggot who wants an echo chamber? Too fucking bad.

>>1851272
Are you seriously just in these threads all the time? What’s your story? Does a nineteen year old girl really make you cry this much?

>>1851168
So you want Cover to continue becoming the crappy version of 2434 and subsequently die? Maybe I oughta apologize to the chinks, you and your anti discord are lower forms of life than they are.

>>1851291
Cry more. The policies are already in place and things will only get better from now on. Just sit your ass down and seethe in your powerless state. You can't do a goddamn thing about it. Cover love!

>>1851168

The Company you appreciate has deleted everything about Haachama except ASMR soft porn, the Hentai contest, and eating waste. Indeed, they must want to make an Idol.
Everything is better now.

>>1851434
Those are the next things on the chopping block.

>>1851349
nah, if Cover continues listening to idol otaku trash like you and stagnating, there are plenty of indies and nijis to fill the void. fucked up that 2434 is becoming known as the vtuber agency that allows the most creative freedom, but here we are.

Okay after reading those dumb discord screenshots...... that walrus guy is actually an anti? Because he was the only one complaining about shit. Is he the one posting the screenshots?

He’s really a watamate right? Does he bitch about Watame liking wakipai too?

Why are these day x threads always filled to the brim with schizos and retards?

>>1851041
>Reporting content that breaks the rules is commendable
Holy shit my sides. You actually made me take your bait. If you are not trolling and actually believe in what you're typing then I'm starting to feel sorry for you
>Retarded enablers like you will get her banned for real one day
Good. Unlike you I'm a real fan and I'm going to support whatever she decides to do, Chammer's not stupid and if she's willing to take the risk of getting banned then I'm on it as well. Better to go away this way than to listen to retarded corpofags trying to suppress your real self and creativity

>>1851461
No, they skipped them. Apparently, they are of a fairly high standard.
Like similar content from Noel and Choco.
I can already see the idol of the future! She eats waste while massaging herself with a KFP chicken drumstick. Sasuga Cover! I hope they will all be tamed that way!
THE TRUE IDOL WAY!

>>1851534
how we always do in chama threads nigga except shit is getting strained

These threads cofirmed that Haatons are more thin skinned than fucking KFP. I thought it was a dumb meme but the fanbase DOES reflect the oshi. You all are a bunch of immature, rebelling teenagers who can't see the fault in your actions and blame the higher ups for not letting you go full retard.

>>1851687
Great, now that you've established that kindy fuck off to your discord, you pathetic lowlife corporate bootlicker

>>1851510
No, I posted his takes because he is one of Haachama's oldest fans. He frequents the JP Discord and can speak of their general opinion on matters. If anything, I would fault him for following Haachama for too long, even after she disappointed him and other fans like him repeatedly as of the last half year or so. If he called it quits, a lot of knowledge would be lost, however.

He and others like him seem overbearing at times, but the ban rta incident was an extreme base. Chammers essentially WAS making her membership into a porn subscription not because she is a slut, but because she is retarded.

>>1851622
even chicken's fan art is derivative coat tail riding garbage

>>1851018
Newfag !!

You should look Haacahma archive and twitter after suspension ended

Chinks attacked Haachama both in Twitter and Youtube alongside with Fubuki and COCO

Lurk more !

>>1851728
Furthermore, although most people would agree Chammers should have creative freedom, we were approaching high levels of unsustainable spectacle creep. Remember the cancelled lotion Ring Fit Adventure? What was she supposed to do next, try it while rolling on top of a ball? What is she going to cook next, literally crap? What hentai line will she read? "Oh baby FUCK MY PUSSY YEAH!"

I think fans of Chammers will have to deal with getting a chaotic mix of content. She's wired that way. For some people it just got tiresome to see her constantly having to outdo herself or reinvent the wheel.

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1279017561531617280

>>1852014
WOAH

>>1852035
Just Chammers going into coomerbrain phase, happens to everyone.

>>1852056
ホロライブ/赤井はあと

>>1852185
Looks like coexist to me. Either way, I'd say do your best.

>>1831299
I warned you folks. I did it. Let's face it though, we still love Haachama.

>>1842415
You can see the tits!! Haachama would never do this ...

>>1843263
>Ina has confirmed this information several times in the last two weeks
Don't bring my oishi into your schizo lore please.

>>1851500
Idolfags are where the money is at. Come back when you can spend 80% of your income without breaking a sweat. All EOPs do is shit up chat with white names and pirate concert videos. If all the EOP faggots like you disappeared tomorrow Cover will barely even see a difference except a dramatically sharp improvement in chat quality.

>>1851500
Pandering to otaku is what allowed Hololive to surpass Nijisanji. Fuck off. Your poor ass won't be missed.

>>1852546
Look closer, there's more!

>>1839887
Aight, time for the pasta

Japanese audience
> Aqua smash incident
> Towa incident
> Aloe incident
> Janitor incident

Chinese audience
> Choco incident
> Pekora incident
> The Great Pinkout

English audience
> being annoying in stream
> bombarding Rushia with loving messages after a shitty translation

I can't imagine how much the holos must hate the horrible EOPs.

>>1853822
Add Polka amongus incident

>>1849683
Meds

>>1849678
Timestamp?

>>1850518
>>1850518
No one here is denying Taiwan's status as a country or being a pinkoid except for your interpretations of them in your head. Meds, now.

>>1851216
This. Hololive is already over it's peak for me. It's getting too sanitized. I will keep following my oshi&co but other than that I doubt I'll watch them much in the future.

>>1857985
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