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>> No.18472740

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.18472919
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *


>33,655: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,228: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,674: NIJISANJI English Official (Nijisanji)
>18,112: Mumei (Hololive)
>16,429: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,919: Lamy (Hololive)
>15,444: Mito (Nijisanji)
>14,885: Patra (774 Inc.)
>14,829: Nene (Hololive)
>14,645: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>14,514: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,008: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,839: Flare (Hololive)
>12,442: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,925: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,303: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,277: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,949: Moona (Hololive)
>10,462: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>10,280: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,079: Amelia (Hololive)

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>>18472919
Go Mumei.

>> No.18473304

>>18472919
Is Mumei the sleeper hit of council? I didn't really notice her until lately but she's got pretty great content and seems to be on a hard incline lately.

>> No.18473431

>>18473304
She was always #2 and after half a year of Kronii purposely debuffing herself she's taken the top spot

>> No.18473450

>>18473304
Sleeper hit? She's been popular since the beginning. Not as popular as Kronii, but since Kronii doesn't like streaming, Mumei has been taking over the spot as #1 in Council. The real sleeper in Council is Bae

>> No.18473522

>>18473304
She always had the best model. Rat is trying, but she's both a dingo and a chink. Tree has a small niche. Clock should go ahead and kill herself, know she wants too.

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>>18457429
>Ironmouse with 187 hours in 7 days
TOP KEK, I don’t know what’s more retarded

>Twitch numbers for being this inflated
>stream hatched for clearly being a shitty source for anything number related

>> No.18473615

>>18457429
>>18473469
>>18473481
Twitch numbers make 0 sense, as usual.

>> No.18473645

>>18473304
Anon, they were calling Council "Munmei and her harem" at one point.
She's always been one of the standouts.

>> No.18473813

>>18473522
ASMR streamers play the long game. Check out her VODs and you'll see that her CCV doesn't matter as much because people will just autistically loop that stuff to help them sleep or forget about their childhood trauma or jerk off or whatever ASMR fans use it for.

>> No.18473833

/#/ is declining.

>> No.18473854

>>18473645
She's still just Gura's sidekick.

>> No.18473881

総視聴時間ランキング(2/15 24時推定値:VSTATS集計) watchtime Feb 2/1 - 2/15
1. 1,438,645 葛葉 (58.3時間, 13枠) Kuzuha
2. 889,961 兎田ぺこら (45.6時間, 14枠) Pekora
3. 807,895 湊あくあ (30.8時間, 10枠) Aqua
4. 688,969 さくらみこ (48.7時間, 14枠) Miko
5. 599,423 博衣こより (87.4時間, 26枠) Koyori
6. 593,030 叶 (70.8時間, 20枠) Kanae
7. 539,991 大空スバル (38.1時間, 13枠) Subaru
8. 520,276 雪花ラミィ (59.8時間, 17枠) Lamy
9. 516,308 ローレン・イロアス (89.9時間, 13枠) Lauren
10. 456,436 渋谷ハル (85.9時間, 25枠) Hal

>> No.18473890

>>18473601
Has anyone called them out on this on twitter?

>> No.18473899

>>18473304
Pretty much what everyone else said, but she’s honestly a standout talent in the company too. She has some of the best humor of the bunch, probably the most “fun” karaokes to listen to as she’s not afraid to fool around at all or sing in completely different tones, and has good numbers in both ccv and vods. People -want- to tune into her which is a great sign honestly. It helps that she has a lot of relatable experiences and seems to be genuine in her attempt to improve herself. Really cool stuff

>> No.18473913

so... Gura EN Gold?
can she top 22k from nijien tho?

>> No.18473964

>>18473854
She doesn't even interact with Gura that much. I think Fauna is the one that wants to be Gura's sidekick.

>> No.18473975

Gura is really drawing attentions around today huh.

https://twitter.com/microsoftstore/status/1493736256743743490?s=21

>> No.18474013

>>18473913
She’s overlapping with baena RE8, which consistently hits 10k at least. And with ccvid going on it’s gonna be hard to collect enough eyes for that. Gura’s ccv legit feels like it hits a wall and stays there for eternity some of these streams.

>> No.18474027

>>18473913
nijien was yesterday
Also is Vr MC and MC is quite weak right now since the girls have it abandoned.
and she is overlapping bae beneviento house too
i say 15k to 18k

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>>18473813
Yep, asmr farms views, slowly but surely. Her first one is about to hit 1M too.

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>>18473304
A couple threads ago there was some discussion on if Council + IRyS is actually stronger and more consistent than Myth if you remove Gura. Obviously Gura tips the scales in favor of Myth but it was an interesting discussion.

Obviously this was mainly concerning streams and not song views or anything. Myth easily wins there.

>> No.18474076

>>18473304
When I heard she was supposed to be the Niji penguin I was actually happy, because I thought she was gonna be a waste of spot for EN 2. A crappy Gura lite that did the same sort of act and content. I did like her design (#2 after Fauna) but I never imagined she'd end up being easily my favorite in Council. After dropping some of the initial "i forgor" stuff she got a lot better. Pretending to be completely retarded is really hard, but being silly quirky owl works.

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Current Top 50, rest of tables at >>18467079

>> No.18474164

>>18473913
When Gura streams, EN gold is basically locked.
Also kys for mentioning EN Gold.
>can she top 22k from nijien tho?
Gura hasn't gotten 22k in a long time and she's overlapping with Bae RE8, which is going to take a hit too.
I stopped caring about Gura's CCV since she ends up getting 300-500k VOD views for sub-20k streams anyways.

>> No.18474199

>>18474063
If you cheat and sub in IRyS for Sana and make it 5 vs 4 it's a least competitive, but that's like asking if I can outrun Usain Bolt if I shoot him in the leg.

>> No.18474257

>>18474164
Guess it will be a total 30k ccv from both streams, I think EN hasn't reach 30k in total for a while.

>> No.18474327

>>18474029
I kind of questioned whether it was really necessary to have an ASMR streamer in EN2, but after seeing how she can rack up VODs it does make sense. How many of the JPs are professional ASMR streamer? 3 with Noel, Mel, and Choco? Or is Lamy one too?

>> No.18474351

The final yab is now in motion and can't be stopped, but its process should take a while to complete. In the meantime, how will holo numbers fluctuate as the yab progresses? Who will breakout and who will collapse?

>> No.18474363

>>18474108
>Gura 15,900
reclining
>Kronii 11,342
stable
>Ina 10,039
stable
>Mori 9,926
stable (slightly inclining)
>Ame 8,433
inclining
>Mumei 7,768
reclining
>Bae 6,418
stable

>> No.18474365

>>18474257
It’s only been a couple days actually. The Mori jojo karaoke day had over 30k if memory serves me right. Wasn’t it close last night too? Mumei and Kronii by themselves had like 29k

>> No.18474366

>>18474257
the day of mori jojo karaokes they locked 30k
one of the few days where they were doing debuff content.

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>>18474351
Come on anon you can't just drop that without elaborating

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>>18474063
>Council + IRyS is actually stronger and more consistent than Myth if you remove Gura
The only reason why that was even a discussion was because some anon did averages for the Vday streams of both gens and Council+IRyS got better numbers due to karaokes.

In terms of actual numbers, it's closer, but there's honestly not been enough streams from most members of HoloEN to properly determine strength.

Also, Just Mori just passed 400k views in a bit more than a day and it peaked at 11k CCV.

>> No.18474417

Moona orisong 160k in 14hrs, already better than Risu's iirc, ET for 1M /#/ bros? 2-3 weeks is safe bet or nah
https://youtu.be/stmZAThUl64

>> No.18474447

>>18473304
Maybe. Mumei actually seems to understand numbers. She actively tries to push the box and funnel the views and she spams buff streams. However I want you to look at last night. Would Mumei be able to hold 10-12k for 5 hours playing an autistic house designer game? Probably not.

I'm still saying Kronii is the ace of Council although Mumei has impressed me quite a bit and I also didn't realize the views on Fauna's ASMR were so solid. >>18474029

>> No.18474459

>>18474327
Lamy did some before joining but I wouldn't call her a professional like those other 3

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>>18474327
I don't know about professional but Lamy does a lot of ASMR and she gets quite alot of views with it.

>> No.18474546

That Minecraft stream that Mumei and Chloe had almost the exact same CCV for is now are 136k and 135k for each of them on the VOD.

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>>18474164
>Also kys for mentioning EN Gold
g-gomen!

>> No.18474720

>>18474447
>Mumei actually seems to understand numbers.
He says while Mumei constantly does guerilla zatsus in the middle of heavy overlap, streams garbage like PLA and spongebob in bloodbath EN timeslots, and only does karaokes at the dead of night lol.

> the views on Fauna's ASMR were so solid
Fauna's ASMRs would do even better if she doesn't already have 18 archived ASMRs in her ASMR playlist.
For comparison, Noel only has 6 and they get really good growth.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsAgfBTGY4i1QQTXz5CoxBY6c-txoLDtc

>> No.18474893

>>18474399
Cover is no longer functional internally. EN in particular was in the process of completely restructuring its management but it is clear at a glance that the Rushia thing has thrown a wrench in the machinery and there are now multiple conflicting factions within the company itself on how to handle this particular issue and any other that arise going forward. They are currently paralized and office politics are in full swing. The minor Rushia yab has turned into an infection, the external issue might be cured as people have already mostly moved on but the poison is in the blood now and festering. We can already see a little of it through the cracks with weird stuff happening right now (Like the near complete lack of streams by most senior holos today and the late, confusing and contradicting responses to the Rushia problem given on her official account), but it is definitely going to start affecting talent activities themselves before long. And at some point in the not so far future, possibly directly leading up to holofes, something is going to rip at the seam and the pus will spill out. The final yab. It's much worse than it looks and many of the talents are probably seeing the writing on the wall and already considering... alternate paths. But how will they handle the present?

>> No.18474950

Jesas

>> No.18474976

>>18474720
>if she doesn't already have 18 archived ASMRs in her ASMR playlist.
kek , she doesn’t make most of them “archive members only”?
Even Haachama, a total memester, knows that rarity drives up interest and make most of them “archive members only”.

>> No.18474977

>>18474893
Cool story

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Today's superchats de gozaru

>> No.18475039

>>18474720
Noel has arguably the most well known roommate on JPs end that did the very exact thing though. I’d just be wary of saying that the small pool of streams equates to larger growth. I mean take Patra who does one like what, every week? And many are at a million or reaching it.
I feel like more is just attributed to who Noel actually is and people coming for that. But I’ll acknowledge that they do have good growth in them

>> No.18475082

>>18474992
>mysta
the fuck

>> No.18475160

>>18474893
Nice blog faggot. Nobody cares.

>> No.18475180
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>>18474351
>>18474893
Meds

>> No.18475182

this is not /wg/
take your creative writing exercise there. only post numbers
217 984 5 88569 89617 25757 77159 95225

>> No.18475290

>>18474893
This is written in the same style as the "Coco is making her own agency and multiple girls have already agreed to leave and join her" story.

>> No.18475292

>>18474720
>Noel only has 6
She has more the 9, check your numbers first

>> No.18475387

>>18474992
Hey it's the girl who absolutely lost her shit when Festival turned up in her chat
https://youtu.be/cxIIFHTRoCA?t=9097

>> No.18475444

>>18475290
I'm personally a fan of the chink struggle room one from when the taiwan yab happened.

>> No.18475465

>>18475387
holy shit my ears

>> No.18475619

>>18475292
She has 6 in the playlist, which is where people go to when they look for ASMRs and funnels views to her best ones.
Noel herself has a dozen and more, but she doesn't put shit like "Teaching Koyori how to do ASMR" in her actual ASMR playlist because it's not up to par.
After getting her KU100, Fauna should phase out her 3Dio ASMRs instead of bloating an already huge ASMR playlist.

>> No.18475646

Over 10k from EN's waiting room.

>> No.18475716

Bury your head in the sand all you want
Coco's return is near — the first indication
An assembly of the "fallen" in the holo world — four twenty-three
Already you can see the alpha and the omega of the twin poles, ever distant and now unhinged — five eight
Mori five thirteen twelve fifteen
Rushia? Obscure still. At least 50k.

>> No.18475734

>>18474363
>nijinnigers
Seething

>> No.18475921

7k waiting for gura
5.6k waiting for Bae

>> No.18475983

>>18475921
These fuckers had hours of empty space to stream in and yet they still insist on doing this shit.

>> No.18476082

Shark late, 9.7k waiting

>> No.18476160

>2 holoEn overlapping
>4 nijiEN overlapping

>> No.18476238

>return buff
>only 9k
call the graduation stream already

>> No.18476254

Gura recovered waiting room in 3 mins. A good sign at least

>> No.18476305

Nacho in twitch got 7k

>> No.18476328

>>18476238
reclining..

>> No.18476381

>>18476238
Based off my calculations, my conclusions is natural recline.

>> No.18476403

>>18476238
Ignoring this guys stupidity, return buff has never been a thing for EN because 1 week is only significant to idiots here

>> No.18476440

>>18476305
She playing with anyone famous? I don't see her being a big enough draw herself to get that playing Apex.

>> No.18476469

>>18474029
The truth is Fauna isn’t great at ASMR and her first setup was pretty scuffed. B it she’s got some quality equipment and seems to be improving. Give her a year and she could be a views powerhouse.

>> No.18476474

>>18474992
February superchats so far
>Vox - $81,698
>Aqua - $59,680
>Chloe - $54,867
>Luca - $53,075
>Nene - $39,484
>Rushia - $36,877
>Iroha - $36,665
>Fuwa - $32,692
>Koyori - $31,885
>kson - $31,505
>Ike - $31,462

>> No.18476521

>>18476403
It's a little bit of a thing, moreso for planned stuff they talk up like vacations than "randomly ghosting everyone for a week".

>> No.18476596

>>18476403
Also, members streams (X2) in the time she hasn't done a public stream, plus it snot like she made a big deal about taking a break. You don't GET a return buff if you don't make a big de about taking a break or your name is Ayame.

>> No.18476743

>>18476469
Open up Japan and let Noel give her some ASMR lessons.

>> No.18476814

>Gura approached 15k
>susan hits the breaks
Kek I have no idea how this works but ta so fucking visible ever stream

>> No.18477000

>>18475716
>inb4 coco returns and takes aloe with her
(captcha: 4MPPT)

>> No.18477020

>>18476814
the premier was the most baffling thing i ever seen
but this stream is still "normal" she is coming back from a break so i dont think she is hitting 20k

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>>18474992

>> No.18477151

>>18476743
Noel or Choco giving the newbies some tips seems like such an obvious collab but language barrier and autism has kept it from happening so far

>> No.18477275

Bros… Gura’s numbers… they’re going up.. maybe god really is real

>> No.18477301

2 stream close to 30k??? Inclline??

>> No.18477308

>>18477151
Noel's done that with a bunch of Holos and every time it's been an offcolab because teaching ASMR is fucking impossible unless it's face to face and you can show how to use the equipment

>> No.18477381

>>18477151
"Language barrier" is a pretty weak excuse considering half of EN speak Japanese.

>> No.18477409

>>18477151
iirc Fauna listed Noel as someone she looks up to for ASMR

>> No.18477431

Will Bae get 10k with the Gura overlap?

>> No.18477445

>>18477301
Good for bae for not afraid to stream at gura time slot.

>> No.18477472

>>18476814
Susan doesn't want streamers she paid 10 mil to stream on her shitty ass website to lose to anime girls

>> No.18477628

18.2k
9.1k
LETS GO LETS GO

>> No.18477688

>>18477472
Ludwig final views on his streams have been really low recently even with the 20k ccv he gets

>> No.18477776

>>18477688
Based on everything we know, that sounds like a Natural Recline.

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Jesus fucking CHRIST Gura’s chat was above 600 messages/min for 20 minutes straight. Lightning speed for a stream like this

>> No.18477944

>>18477431
This is me.

Oh shit 10k get

>> No.18477971

Bae 10k at the baby part.
I think Gura bled a few hundred over, but they might come back after this part is over.

>> No.18478046

>1k number dip from Gura and bump to Bae as she's at the buff horror part
Kek

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>> No.18478088

>>18478048
slow and steady bros...

>> No.18478153

>>18478046
~Just Youtube things~
Pretty clear some people have two tabs up if the ongoings of another stream are directly affecting the numbers of another one given what we know about YT's magic CCV numbers.

>> No.18478206

>>18478046
It really funny seeing the shitty tab out cull in real time.

>Bae starts to scream
>Gura's number immediately go down

Very humorous.

>> No.18478208

>>18478048
Man that overrated hades really is number poison game.

>> No.18478266

>>18478048
>>18478088

>All girls
>This happen

>> No.18478335

>>18478208
Hades at this point is a neutral/minor debuff game, but you can do things to make it a buff. Too bad that requires one to actually be GOOD at the game and/or being entertaining and well...

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>>18478048
Sorry Nijikeks. You had a good weekish of fun pretending you are bigger than you are. But our shark is back now. Nice knowin ya.

>> No.18478440

>>18478048
Better call Luxiem stream 24/7.

>> No.18478467

>>18478372
>18k
It's over, Niji are here to keep gold.

>> No.18478476

>>18478048
Millie....

>> No.18478609

>minecraft sub 20k

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>> No.18478734

12k get bae.

>> No.18478733

>>18474417
> 2 - 3 weeks
Have to wait on how it does on the second and third days to see if it get keep the momentum but it's in english and the MV is good so it might reach 1m faster than her first original

>> No.18478741

>>18478609
You mean like every single one since council's relay brought CCVid back? What a shocker

>> No.18478804

EN 30k get
18k Goowa
12k Bae
One is ready to barf and the other is ready to have an emotional breakdown

>> No.18478817

30k for holoen
5.5k for nijiEN

>> No.18478937

>>18478609
EN is truly dying.

>> No.18479014

>>18478817
NijiEN better call Chinks now.

>> No.18479051

Gura gaining views back because she need to jump into the well lol.

>> No.18479119

>>18478937
>over 30k watching HoloEN right now
>dying
Kek. To be fair Gura actually has some powerful competition right now. Horror is a huge buff for Bae since she gets legitimately terrified. No fake reactions/screams bullshit here.

>> No.18479225

>>18479119
Not only that, the baby part is basically the apex of the game. Bae will probably incline even more during the last chase to the elevator.

>> No.18479241

>>18479051
yeah lot of tab out between her and bae probably.

>> No.18479298

>>18479119
>141 on the heart-rate monitor earlier
Yea, there's no way she'd ever be able to play this solo.

>> No.18479303

Overlaps have been a disaster for EN peak ccv. Council literally didn't bring in anyone new

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>> No.18479461

>>18478048
>big Gbomba return
>MC
>VR
>not even 20k

It's over HoloEN is dead.

>> No.18479528

>>18479303
What, who gives a rat's ass about peak except for deluded fuckers here for normal streams? The only time we've seen them care about peak CCV is for events like Lives and outfit reveals.
Pre-council, Gura would probably just get 22-23k in this slot solo. There being an extra 7k+ watching now is a buff for EN, even if the peaks take a hit.

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>>18479303
>muh overlap
>daily 40k-50k before
>barely breaking 30k now >>18479119

>> No.18479586

>>18479311
RUMAO, Gawr "3.8 million subs, most popular Vtuber" Gura can't even beat a bedridden Puerto Rican

>> No.18479628

>>18473881
>90 hours streamed in 13 streams
What the shit, Lauren?

>> No.18479650

>>18478048
>game perms

>> No.18479699

>>18479311
Is she just greedy? She basically massacred the entire indie vtuber scene and her own company workers and harvested their viewers for this.

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>>18479461
This is legitimately one of Gura’s most active streams ever recorded, since holostats started displaying live messages. This stream is going faster than Apex, ARK, just about any buff stream Gura has.
No mega peak but ridiculously fast chat.

>> No.18479775

>>18479303
>Overlaps have been a disaster for EN peak ccv. peak ccv matters little if they are getting more poeple to watch streams at most prime hours.
>>18479582
those are 6 streams tough. i would love to see an overlap witha buff collab and gura also doing some horror shit.

>> No.18479796

>>18473890
yes, multiple times
nobody cares though, people usually don't see the numbers, they just see the graph, the shape of the graph and the people in the graph

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>> No.18479851

>>18479699
What kind of wacky take is that? Subathons draw a ton of tourists and other people rubbernecking just to see if she stops. Unless you've noticed a notable drop in viewers across many indies that's a crappy take.

>> No.18479862

>>18479799
pomu...

>> No.18479865
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Ironmouse hit 1 Million followers in Twitch

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>>18479699

>> No.18479930

>>18479755
I wonder if that actually counts as positive for the algo, obviously that's huge engagement which is actually a good thing but it's also easily mistaken for spam and bots and bring out the cull

>> No.18480025

>Shark views dropping
>Rrat inclining

>> No.18480055

>>18477896
So how much ccv do you think she have rn?

>> No.18480070

How long can it take Bae to finish the baby part jesas

>> No.18480073

>>18479865
Is she bigger than Nyanners and Veibae now?

>> No.18480112

13k bae get.

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>> No.18480169

>>18480055
probably an extra 2k
not much but the tab out is noticeable

>> No.18480183

>>18480073
Hard to tell overall, this is a subathon and those 2 haven't been streaming regularly but in terms of followers, yeah she's bigger now.

>> No.18480186

>>18480055
Who knows? More than what's displayed, that's for sure. CCVID makes figuring out real numbers impossible.

>> No.18480237

>>18479930
Hard to say. Pekora's ASMR vod for vday is probably the fastest chat ever for a "normal" stream, as in not some grand event or spectacle but rather just a hype collab, but it doesn't seem to have done anything for the algo considering it's growth is mediocre for how enormous it was, but you never know really with Youtube honestly..

>> No.18480256

>>18480025
>>18480070
>>18480112

>Bae incline
>Her heart rate incline >>18480145

>> No.18480285

>>18480145
She's going to die on stream one day.

>> No.18480293

>>18480145
Based rat risking heart attack for the sake of inclining.

>> No.18480349

>>18480055
25k-ish maybe

>> No.18480595

>Gura ended the minecraft part
Where there goes any chance of views funnelled back after Bae finishes the buff part

>> No.18480639

I think Gura is done with VR Minecraft lmao, just when Bae finished the baby part.

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>>18480169
So 36k, what about this stream?

>> No.18480935

>imaginary numbers
The absolute state of this thread lmao

>> No.18481115

>VR buff
>MC
>Sub 20k
Kek. The shark fall from grace is a sight for sore eyes. Keep coping Holofags while NijiEN incline to the moon

>> No.18481120

>>18480349
>>18480169
>Actually guessing CCV
Just accept CCV is fucked up and stop caring so much about it.
Predicting CCV is peak retardation.

>> No.18481131

>>18480935
this thread has always been imaginary numbers, the only instance of certainty we had was the sales pulled up from the hololive store, something we cannot do anymore since they patched it out

>> No.18481179

>>18479865
She's also like 500 subs away from breaking the record for most subscribed female streamer on twitch.

>> No.18481190

>>18481115
Gura does this to herself.

>> No.18481221

>>18481131
There are ways to still pull the numbers, so we'll get them, but there's no reason to pull em so early when it's only Choco rn.

>> No.18481246

>>18481131
I blame the nigger who wanted to TL it to 5ch nips

>> No.18481392

>>18481115
>>18481190
Nijinnigers still seething

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Good fucking lord pink dog

>> No.18481457

First Kronii stealing 20k from Mumei, Now Bae stealing 20k from Gura....end me

>> No.18481484

>>18474529
>needing to resort to ASMR to get what Gura can manage with casual streams
kek

>> No.18481488

>>18479755
Who the fuck cares about chat speed or how active chat was? Gura got fucking mogged by Ironmouse rumao

>> No.18481566

>>18481484
>needing to resort
>Assuming Fauna and Gura are remotely comparable in the first place
Probably the biggest retard in this thread filled with retard.

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>>18481115
To the moon, babe
(Seriously, though, what happened to EU hour? Where is Ina? Why is Millie the only one streaming during EU hours today?)

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>85k views right as stream ends
>Hasn't even processed views yet
The only real comparison we can draw for Gura's size is Pekora's ASMR/Carrot eating vods. Peko ASMR finished processes at around 380k for her hr long session and the carrot eating vod was like 350-360k if memory serves me right. Probably keep those numbers in mind to see where Gura's vod falls up.

>> No.18481607

Why does Gura in particular bring these people out oft he woodwork? I guarantee they'd be going at it even without the cull and double the ccv

>> No.18481622

>>18481484
Who mentioned Gura, retard?

>> No.18481671

>>18481581
Ina burned out, will be back on Thursday.

>> No.18481686

>>18481581
Ina got worn out by all her not-streaming and had to take two days off to recover.

>> No.18481703

>>18481607
Her sub growth mind broke a lot of people, both ENfags and JPfags.

>> No.18481725

>>18481607
is the same holoantis as alwasy
>>18481593
gura will end with like 170k+ views for this after like 6-8hrs it is a short stream and peko ccv that stream was higher.
the closes would be pekos nintenod direct watchalong but that is outside pekos timeslot.

>> No.18481730

>>18481403
Over a quarter of the first two weeks has koyorin on stream kek

>> No.18481732

>>18481686
To be fair, she probably spent a lot of that 'not streaming' time doing roommate shit and who knows what, and it's not like she's slowed down on her roommate at all.

>> No.18481764

>>18481607
Chumbuds cope pretty hard and always bite bait.
If she peaked at 20k, they'll be shitposting about not reaching 22k so just ignore the fucktards.

>> No.18481836

>>18481607
Because someone wants EN gold badly.

>> No.18481845

>>18481764
I've given up engaging anyone shitposting about Gura's CCV long ago, these fuckers need to do the same. It's not like we don't know CCV on yt's fucked to high heaven anyways, even if it's not as bad as it was at the start of January the effects still linger.
I hate youtube's fuckery so much.

>> No.18481885

>>18481403
>Super strong and super buffed
>Aqua still can't beat Pekora
This shows you why she had a nearly two year long streak at the top of this list and why what Fubuki did in December was so damn special.

>> No.18481949

>>18481607
She cucked out everyone of numberfagging subs. Spite is a powerful drug.

>> No.18481950

>>18481845
She still stomps everyone on her timeslot.

>> No.18482008

>>18481403
>1,438,645 葛葉 (58.3時間, 13枠)
holokeks???

>> No.18482017

So where did the 15k people who were watching Gura go off to?

>> No.18482030

>>18481845
At the end of the day, all her streams get to 300k views anyways.
If this stream was longer by 1-2 hours, it would've been 500k views by the end of the week.
This one might slip since it's one of her shortest streams ever, but it's still going to do far better than whatever the CCV suggests.

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jeeez gura, thanks for the funnel!

>> No.18482061

>>18482017
I won't watch Bae, that's for sure.

>> No.18482077

>>18481607
Last Samurai are still salty about Gura swooping in and sniping the first Holomem to 1 million subs crown. Seriously the debate was going on for months on who was going to hit it first, Fubuki or Korone, and then Gura sped in like a fucking comet and sniped it.

>> No.18482098

>>18482017
Bae dipped pretty hard after the baby part and 1-2k came in to stop the bleeding.
She's almost at her peak right now doing boring stuff so some new people definitely came in.

>> No.18482122

>>18482008
The power of being Tourney buffed combined with some long streaming hours after getting cucked out of the Live in January.

>> No.18482129

>>18482017
Pomu's stream

>> No.18482131

>>18482008
Lauren did 30 more hours with the same amount of streams.

>> No.18482136

>>18482057
bae fionished beneviento house at the same time so gura probably avoided a harsh drop with a few thousand that came from gura

>> No.18482169

>>18482057
CCVID means funnels take more than an hour to register because the servers are verifying the viewers swapping streams, try to keep up with what we know

>> No.18482176

>>18482098
I was around during this time on /jp/ and the palpable panic in /hlg/ as Gura's sub count didn't slow down and everybody realized she was going to do it was pretty glorious. Those were good times.

>> No.18482203

>>18482017
Some amount fucked off because they ONLY watch Gura (~8kish)
Some probably went off to do other things because "Yet another RE8 stream" isn't interesting to them
The rest went to Bae to shore her numbers up after passing the buffed part of 'dollhouse'.

>> No.18482278

>>18482077
>>18482176
>n-n-no it's only the /jp/fags acting like retarded tribalists
I hope you guys aren't the same ones whining about /jp/fags shitposting all the time

>> No.18482279

>>18482176
Ya dun goof'd on who you quoted, but yes we've seen the black ships meme image floating around, and the lingering mental trauma it's inflicted on one particular schizo we have here.

>> No.18482299

>>18476814
like 2k Gura viewers were tabbing in the Bae stream for the bulk of the buff part

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>>18474108
Let's go Mysta and Vox!!!! I'm rooting for these boys!!!!!!

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What was the holo bpm record again?

>> No.18482527

>>18482481
Fauna hit that high(157) too in a Re:7 stream, but I don't know if anyone on JP has gotten higher.

>> No.18482541

If only Gura is a super numberfag... Her return stream SCs only amounts to little when she could've had a return zatsudan.

>> No.18482580

>>18482541
A shame, but she was legit about to barf.

>> No.18482605

>>18482541
nigga she return from a cold not a dying sickness
even she knows it isnt a big deal and was doing memeebr streams before.

>> No.18482639

>>18482541
No one but money Mori cares about superchat in EN.

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Bitch...

>> No.18482871

>>18482580
Same as every time she plays VR, not sure why she keeps forcing herself.

>> No.18482884

>>18482841
it's over...

>> No.18482904

>>18482541
Pretty sure her member's stream earned her quite a bit, but no one will ever know that

>>18482605
You say that when it's easy to get pity SCs out of people from a long vacation. Vox is gonna get at least $5k from his throat infection once he comes back.

>> No.18482914

>>18482871
The model is cute and she wants to do more VR stuff and needs to practice for when they get actual 3d

>> No.18482937

>>18481179
how much is that 100k a month?

>> No.18482977

>>18482904
>Vox is gonna get at least $5k from his throat infection once he comes back.
VOX IS SHAMLESS gura cares more about her members than SC.she casually saying that she might buy a VR threadmil shuld tell you how she sees SC money.

>> No.18482989

>>18482904
Someone claims they scraped Gura's member stream and came up with ~3k for it yesterday.

>> No.18483014

>>18482914
Not sure you can practice your way out of motion sickness, it's an inner ear thing right? I have the same problem trying to read in a car.

>> No.18483075

>>18482871
It's weird how the one EN who is awful at VR is also the one doing most VR streams together with Ame.

>> No.18483086

>>18483014
is about getting used to it.
VR is not the same as actual being in motion in a car.

>> No.18483134

>>18482937
Assuming that all subs are the bare minimum twitch prime sub which is only $3 towards the streamer, ~220k

>> No.18483272

>>18483134
48k of that is gift subs, so it's fair enough to go with the minimum.
They'll also likely be 'gone' once they expire as gift-subs do.

>> No.18483302

>>18482541
Because she could never get a superchat again and still be earning $600k after its split with cover just from memberships.

>> No.18483417

>>18482077
A nijifag wrote this.

>> No.18483428

>>18481593
Gura is in the trajectory of Kizuna Ai at this point.

>> No.18483544

Okay, big question, but what can NijiEN do to create a male vtuber with enough force to rival the growth and viral-ness of Gura? Even casuals know of her.

>> No.18483548

>power wash devs a d publishers rushing to give Gura perms on twitter
How fucking incompetent are hololive managers? An indie dev wilould fucking never say no if asked directly

>> No.18483635

>>18483544
They can't, No one can. What happened to Gura was a fucking anomaly.

>> No.18483678

>>18483548
this has been happening in multiple occasions, fans getting permissions INSTANTLY on twitter and management losing them

>> No.18483680

>>18483544
LOL. Cover cant even replicate it (and don't you dare tell me monomers wasn't an attempt)

>> No.18483694

>>18483544
They need to hire Gura.

>> No.18483716

>>18483544
They don't need it with how fast Gura is reclining. I expect her to be sub 10k by mid 2022 while NijiEN debuting new male wave will double their cap to and they will multiple 10k-20k streams overlapping the same time frame.

>> No.18483748

>>18483548
https://twitter.com/PowerWashSim/status/1493709002764599300
>israel

>> No.18483765

>>18483678
Management loses the perms after fans getting the perms?

>> No.18483820

>>18483544
The memetic energy of 2020 won't happen again, it was a fleeting moment in time.

>> No.18483822

>>18483548
>>18483748
Unfortunately the problem is the publisher (squeenix), not the developer.

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>>18483548
this is fucking PATHETIC, Gura is literally the reason they asked for that game, Roberu has been playing it daily for like a week and you are telling me Gura can't play the day she wants to? and that devs LITERALLY have to step in?
it's almost as if there was someone in management dedicated to make them fail, every god damn time the same thing

>> No.18483831

>>18483765
There's the infamlu nigh collapse of myth breakers because management thought they didn't have perms
The devs had to fucking immediately damage control and shout they have the perms publically so they wouldn't lose their free 10k+ streams

>> No.18483864

>>18483694
Jesus, can you imagine if NijiEN manages to nap Gura? It will tip the scale within NijiEN since she is not under the influence of Queen Bee Elira. Her fame also outmatches any Luxiem members as well.
It would be fun to see the dynamic.

>> No.18483869

>>18483765
Its not losing the perms per say its that fans will contact the publisher/developer on twitter and they will say "sure, we would love you to play it". What they don't realize and what these retarded fans don't communicate is that they need to contact Cover and give them explicit permission in writing. Just posting it on twitter isn't good enough for them.

Cover is no doubt being overly cautious but you can't really blame them after the Holocaust.

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>>18483826
like, imagine being THIS retarded

>> No.18483925

>>18483826
Gura's fucking American, she should tell her stupid Jap handlers she doesn't need to worry about their stupid fucking copyright shit.

>> No.18483928

>>18483544
Get a ringer that's already super famous and realistically has no reason to work for Nijisanji and give them 1/3rd of his revenue, but does it anyway because he really really wants to be a corporate vtuber for some reason. It would have to be one of these Twitch streamers that gets like 100k people on their streams or something like that.

>> No.18483958

>>18483873
someone tell them that Cover needs that written in the fax and translated to japanese

>> No.18483965

>>18483864
Nijis, Gura isn't going to quit the one place she has friends in to fucking join a different corpo with less issues, but which still needs perms. Why do you keep posting this dumb shit?

>> No.18483971

>>18483928
A surprising amount of "big" twitch streamers tried / will try a vtuber model. Obviously no one does more than 3 streams.

>> No.18483975

>>18483925
Gura's company is based on Japan, sure they can't strike the person behind Gura but they can strike Cover.

>> No.18483986

>>18483826
Well maybe if Gura actually put in some more effort into streaming, then her manager will put in more effort to get the perms. As it stands, why should the manager spend days working to get perms when the streamer will only play it for 1-2 streams and for 3 hours at most?

>> No.18483998

>>18483826
Yeah, what is up with that? Other Hololive members have already played the game. Why is it all of a sudden a problem for Gura?

>> No.18483997

>>18483822
That's only the publisher in Japan. The actual IP holder (the one who gave Squeenix publishing rights in Japan) has already given Hololive/Cover full permissions to stream and monetize content for it. The IP holder supersedes anything Squenix could say.

>> No.18484010

>>18483548
They don't say no they just don't read the email or forget about it or whatever. All it takes is one person not "getting" what Cover is asking for or not wanting to bother with it.

>> No.18484013

>>18483986
kek

>> No.18484077

>>18483998
EN and JP have different separate permission lists.

>> No.18484092

>>18483864
Male interaction is debuff for female streamers since male can spend more time honing their crafts when women need to take a biological break at least a few days each month, so these hetero collabs will alienate the fans who are okay with male streamers since they find out that they are better.
The best performing Niji female, Lize, has the least male interaction in the company. Hetero collab is a debuff for female streamers.

>> No.18484100

>>18484010
>boss, someone is asking permission to stream our game
>redirect them to our streaming guidelines

it's probably something like this

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>>18483997
Well they're listed as the publisher on every version of the game, not just JP.

>> No.18484142

>>18483986
>gura tries
>management says no to permissions
>says no to upload meme videos on yt
>says not to upload meme tweets
>says no to the covers of sons she wants to make

>>18484077
literally NO ONE from JP asked for that, it was literally Gura, that's an old shitty game

>> No.18484145

>>18483975
She'd only need perms for Jap published games.

>> No.18484159

>>18483965
Do Nijis even want Gura? Do tribalfags hate Holo more than Gura?

>> No.18484163

>>18483986
M*nager hands types this. Gura gets hundreds of thousand of views above 90% of the company with this method, so why the fuck would anyb business care how many times she uses those perms, especially since they get them for everyone
Reminder that a m*nager actually fucking dared to ock Gura in front of council for asking for too many perms. Variety streaming is incomprehensible to Cover

>> No.18484241

>>18483971
Yeah they usually commission a low quality or meme model and do it as a joke.

>> No.18484250

>>18484145
Cover is extremely cautious so they will clap Gura in the hand if she streams something that Cover doesn't have perms for, doesn't matter if it's nip or burger games.

>> No.18484260

>>18483997
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2021/05/28/powerwash-simulator-will-be-published-by-square-enix/

>> No.18484285

With how popular Luxiem is in China, I am surprised they have not done a B2 exclusive stream yet. The number will go wild.

>> No.18484313

>>18483544
dont pander to fujos and gargle cum for a start.

>> No.18484322

>>18484250
slap*

>> No.18484327

>>18484250
They're being retarded.

This is the fucking fax machines all over again. I hate Japan.

>> No.18484331

>>18484142
Unless you work for cover you literally cannot know if someone asked for it on JP or not unless they mention it on stream, and that only speaks for if that particular streamer asked for it.

>> No.18484363

>>18484285
you are signing a death sentence if you do. The first slip is schizo hours 24/7. we saw what happened with lucas mod and the mentions of taiwan on SC are not uncommon for the luxiem whores

>> No.18484378

>>18483544
Be a big energy ADHD zoomer like xQc

>> No.18484380

>>18484159
I don't think Nijis think about whether they'd want Gura any more than soccer fans think about if they'd want LeBron James on their team. It's just not a scenario a person would consider.

>> No.18484398

>>18474992
Is mysta the lowest sc on their gen?

>> No.18484421

>>18484398
there is a limit to how much you can squeeze money out of fujos.

>> No.18484454

>>18484327
Man and here I hoped COVID would finally kill those nip boomers in suits so they no longer have to make the call.

>> No.18484475

>>18484398
He had a super strong start but then it dipped. Definitely the slowest SC growth of the bunch.

>> No.18484486

I'm pretty understanding when it comes to Cover's permissions autism considering that copyright bullshit almost killed their company. However, when the official account and the developer/publisher is screaming on twitter "PLAY OUR GAME, YES PLEASE, PLAY IT AND MONETIZE IT" and you still say no because the permissions aren't good enough? That is permissions autism gone a little too far.

>> No.18484496

>>18477151
They should really learn nihongo while waiting for the border to open. If they want to further advance their career beyond streaming ofc

>> No.18484511

>>18484285
The Coco/Taiwan thing, general legal changes on the Chinese side, geopolitical instability, and the difficulty of operating profitably in that market have keep everyone from wanting to get too involved.

>> No.18484538

Gura might as well leave if this stuff keeps on going. I mean, she has already done what she wanted to do when she joined Hololive anyway, which is to make friends.
There is no reason to stay in Hololive anymore. Idol performance? Fat chance it will continue beyond the token HoloFes 3 stuff since Japan will never open up. HoloMyth was fun but I feel like everyone is getting tired already.

>> No.18484559

>>18484486
Tweets aren't legal documents.

>> No.18484587

>>18484538
(You)

>> No.18484592

>>18484538
Retard.

>> No.18484595

>>18484538
Cool story bro, got any more fanfction for the /#/ thread?

>> No.18484631

>>18484363
And yet Nijisanji still accepts Chinese investment.

>> No.18484635

>>18484327
>I hate Japan
100% this. Cover should officially transfer their offices to the USA and fire all the Nip senior management. Japanese bullshit has held them back from getting bigger than they already are. Japanese autism bullshit has had their 3D on hold for a year and a half. Japanese bullshit is pissing off one of their biggest stars because of autistic Japanese fax machine bullshit.

Fuck Japan. Hire americans to run Cover and transfer your offices over to the USA.

>> No.18484656

>>18484486
It's not legal document and can't hold itself in court. On the scenario that one day the devs suddenly backpedal on the permission and deleted that tweet then it will be a mess to settle.

>> No.18484686

>>18484538
>which is to make friends
not anymore, Ame ghosts her, Ina doesn't fit in myth and hangs out more with gen5, Mori is only using her to boost her career and kiara is indifferent
>she has already done what she wanted to do when she joined Hololive anyway
almost true, she only needs 3D and play twister with myth, I can see her leaving too

>> No.18484721

>>18484635
> Move to USA
> Celebrate BLM
Yea, no

>> No.18484751

>>18484635
Its just retarded east asian subhuman autism. The only reason the nips aren't perceived to be as bad as the zhangs is because the USA basically colonized their country after WWII. Japan is basically an American colony which keeps them a bit under control. The east asian subhuman gene still pops up concerning issues like this though.

>> No.18484755

>>18484635
hahaha, I'm sure they'll do great if they sony it anon.

>> No.18484812

>>18484686
You would know that Gura has kept adding stuffs to her bucket list if you actually watch her instead of being a thread reader.

>> No.18484831

>>18484380
MLB fans clearly wanted Michael Jordan, so that analogy doesn't work
>>18484475
That's what you get for thinking the Flip market is rich enough to save you. Same issue with Millie

>> No.18484833

Bunch of retards that were not here during Holocaust I swear. And fucking burgers as well.

>> No.18484862

I've seem to stumble into /wg/, can someone point me to /#/

>> No.18484871

I'm a bit of a brainlet, isn't there any company that does middleman work for copyright? Sounds like Cover is just asking and waiting for a fax to arrive in Tokyo.

>> No.18484927

>>18484833
thier paranoi is justifable but at some point they need to trust the devs again.
>>18484871
No one exactly knows

>> No.18484964

>>18484486
They should paid them stream fee if they want holo to play their game. Fuck free promotion

>> No.18484985

>>18484871
The fact that you can't name one tells how obscure such idea is. Copyright middleman can't cover everything.

>> No.18485004

>>18484871
Music permissions yes. Game permissions no since most streamers are individual not under company.

>> No.18485006

>>18484142
>Gura tries
>List of unfinished games that she starts but refuses to at least try to finish because "she's not feeling it" often leaving it literally short of ending.
>List of unfinished projects that she starts by herself or with other people and never go back to it after 1-2 streams because she is too lazy to farm material or do research planning.
>List of meme videos ideas that she refuse to ask permission to make because she is too lazy and cope by saying it takes too long
>Reflect MV takes ages to release because muh timing autism and who knows how many songs she refuses to release covers of because she refuse to put together a team to do the work required by herself with the only exception being Reflect. Look at how many collab covers she has.
>Before even asking to post meme tweets, how about actually putting in effort to update and shill your stuff on your twitter instead of low effort mandated/obligatory retweets.

>> No.18485062

>>18484871
yes, they exists, nijisanji has one working with them, it's called
>having competent people in important positions and not university interns

>> No.18485067

>>18484635
Just make one of their office in indonesia. They'll be very welcomed, lower tax, plus the EN girl can count it as vacation everytime they do 3D stuff

>> No.18485091

Gura antis would rather take covers side lmao
Ad if this is a company well know for doing proper management work

>> No.18485115

>>18485067
Not a terrible idea

>> No.18485121

>>18484927
No they still need to be cautious. You get hit when you let your guard down.

>> No.18485127

>>18485062
Very competent that they have to cancel their concerts and fire fifty girls in one day.

>> No.18485132

>Moshi Moshi? Numbers doko?

>> No.18485168

Jfc I thought we just had this timeloop less than 12 hours ago

>> No.18485184

Its clear that Japanese autism and old suit bureaucracy is holding Cover back from becoming as big as they can. They need to get out of Japan.

>> No.18485186

>>18484486
>Holo want to play a game
>Dev on Twitter, "sure go ahead play it"
>Holo play the game
>Publisher "akchually we didn't give you permission"
>copyright striked
>Holocaust part 2

>> No.18485216

>>18485127
that office is not in charge of game permissions retard

>> No.18485239
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>>18485184
Fuck Japan, fuck /jp/, and fuck touhou. GET OUT OF JAPAN!!!

>> No.18485245

>>18485006
This. Bitch should put the least amount of effort on her side too. Fuck chumbuds and burger's lazy ass mentality to have everything hand over to them in silver plate. Gura literally never put any efforts during her whole career as a vtuber

>> No.18485269

>>18485168
There is one or two game permission schizos posting on cooldown since several days ago. You can even notice samefagging right now.

>> No.18485274

>>18485168
The faggots woke up and saw the Gura tweet, so now they're sperging out and writing fanfiction in the goddamn /#/ thread.

>> No.18485347

Is it that hard for devs to spend the time they do tweeting instead on filling out an official template email saying they have permissions? Or are they just unwilling to commit?

>> No.18485415

>>18485347
A lot of the devs don't comprehend the sheer degree of Cover's autism. The concept of filling out a legal form totally passes over them because its so autistic. Cover badly needs to hire some actual American members of management so stuff like this can be properly communicated since I'm sure a big part of it is shit being lost in translation via language barrier.

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https://twitter.com/akirosenthal/status/1493782192413106176
Guess who is the last guest

>> No.18485522

>>18485415
>concept of filling out a legal form
That's something any working adult should be familiar with unless they're lifelong burger flippers

>> No.18485531

God, I hate cover in how they handle game permissions now. Stop being autistic and read the damn streaming guidelines. If you are that afraid of a strike, then do it unarchived.

>> No.18485575

>>18485518
>Clock with clubs/heart on it
It’s Polka ain’t it

>> No.18485584

>>18485518
>Cheshire Cat not Okayu

Why

>> No.18485592

>>18485415
Anon, do you really think that they ask permission to western developer using Japanese language on the email?

>> No.18485895

>>18485522
NTA, but it’s not so much asking for written permissions but more so understanding the reasoning for it. Streamers have been “protected” for about a decade now from companies attempting to sue for DMCA claims. The sheer amount of backlash from what’s quite literally the majority of the gaming world would completely outweigh the work and effort in trying anything in the court of law. No company is stupid enough to even attempt it. It’s different for music though since I feel there’s a bit more protection involved for it in particular.
Anyways, it’s probably just that. (Western) Companies are probably scratching their head when asked as they already won’t do shit to people streaming something that’s literally giving them attention. It’d be like the dudes who made Lost Ark going after people streaming it. Like no, it became the 2nd most played steam game in the world STRICTLY because of advertisement and promotion

>> No.18485953

>>18485518
Pekora, has carrots in the bag

>> No.18485974

>>18484635
>Move to muttland
>Get infected by liberal ideas by big tech, causing them to abandon the idol culture they were known for.
No

>> No.18486008

1. Contract an EN copyright lawyer
2. Hire competent EN managers (Not JP first, EN second language)
3. Have EN manager A talk about copyrights with the lawyer
4. The lawyer says its fine and he would be asking for explicit and implicit perms
5. Manager receives the OK from the lawyer, and allows EN talents to play
6. Don't be manager B, where they need to communicate with the JP managers every single time because most of the time, it'd be okay

Why does Cover needs to pretend that their EN branch is also part of their JP branch and that they need to use the same laws?

>> No.18486500

>>18486008
I don't know...maybe because they are a japanese company?
Even mf Nintendo goes with it's same laws to all it's branched but harder and thigher.

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>they can't afford the full chronoir fees
Poor chihiro, they picked ange instead

>> No.18486669

>>18485415
Someone post that of an indie mutt dev thinking Anycolor email for permissions was a scam.
Is not only Cover anon, is a general clash of business culture.

>> No.18486689

>>18486008
idk why can't they just separate holoen from jp? can't they just create a sister company that's based on US? pretty sure they have the resources to do so

>> No.18486739

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/stks5q/ironmouse_becomes_the_alltime_most_subbed_to/

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fuck they invaded my favourite sub

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Lui is 6k streamer now

>> No.18486975

>>18486862
Not bad for a lunch stream.

>> No.18487073

>>18486789
Its becoming more and more apparent every single day.

https://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28d

>> No.18487074

>>18479699
stop coping enshart

>> No.18487182

>>18479699
I don't know about affecting the indie vtuber scene but there is no doubt that what she is doing is super scummy.

>> No.18487241

>>18487182
>indies
Who fucking cares?

>> No.18487263

>>18486789
Annoying, but it's the same thing with the Holostars. They'll upvote them but almost nobody watches.
>>18487073
I'm sure they'll post the same thing in a few months, then next year, and the year after.

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holobros...

>> No.18487293

>>18485006
holy mother of true

>> No.18487373

>>18487288
>no Nijis in sight despite having a designated KR branch
Nijibros...

>> No.18487385

>>18487241
I don't give a shit about them. What I find funny is that she is basically doing DarksydePhil/Wings of Redemption style pathetic e-begging but its ok because she is an anime girl. Its pretty disgusting and scummy what she is doing.

>> No.18487447

>>18485895
The reasoning for it is literally "hey guys we just want to be super sure and have it down in writing officially could you just fill out this template letter agreeing to let us monetize streams of your content it won't take an hour of your time".

Big Western publishing companies like Microsoft and Ubisoft have no problem giving out perms whenever they're asked so it seems more like the problem is that indie Western developers don't feel secure in actually signing anything official because they are paranoid it can be used against them.

>> No.18487486

>>18486689
>imagine wasting resources for council

>> No.18487594

>>18487447
>Big Western publishing companies like Microsoft and Ubisoft have no problem giving out perms whenever they're asked so it seems more like the problem is that indie Western developers don't feel secure in actually signing anything official because they are paranoid it can be used against them.
And Cover is too stupid to realize that.
Imagining cant stream FNAF because of this hand writing perm shit.

>> No.18487611

>>18487486
Where have you been the last month or so. Since all of Myth basically decided to have menhera attacks and disappear, Council + IRyS has been carrying EN and doing a damn fine job of it too.

>> No.18487658

>>18487611
>imagine wasting resources for myth

>> No.18487747

>>18487288
#6, #7, and #9 without even having a Korean branch. Not bad.

>> No.18487773

>>18487594
Too stupid to realize that Western indie devs are retarded? Probably, after all it makes no sense that they're willing to brag about their game's streaming guidelines on Twitter but unwilling to put those same guidelines into an official legal document

>> No.18487780

>>18487658
what resources

>> No.18487831

>>18487747
>biggest Vtuber company
>have close to 20 mil subs over-all
MOGGED by a random small time Korean group
RUMAO

>> No.18487885

>>18487831
Hey look everybody, its a wild retard

>> No.18488074

Based truth about Cover's incompetency and hololive's fall from a nip
>https://note.com/anrimayura/n/n57844521380d

The collapse of hololive is finally becoming a reality.
There has been a major incident in the past few weeks that makes me think so.
The incident is this.
The switch of Nissin Foods to Niji-sanji, a company that used to be one of the top holo-promoters.
The revelation of holomen who take money from their fans and pay tribute to their hosts.
This is the first time I've heard of it.
Although this is not seen as a major incident on the surface yet, it is a serious sign of the collapse of the holololive.
At last, the reality of some holomen who have lost their motivation and have become corrupt, as well as the three-cornered sword of the companies they work for, has come to light.
Let's take a look at these major incidents and the reality of the collapse of hololives, which is already halfway underway.

Nissin Foods, Once the Leading Holo-Promoter, Abandons Holo and Switches to Niji-Sanji
Nissin Foods was once the leading holo-promoter of the Curry Meshi advertising project, which cost a huge amount of money.
They had a close relationship with Holo for the Curry Meshi project, and used Holo-Live in a terrestrial commercial that became a hot topic, for better or worse, and showed an unusual level of devotion to Holo-Live.
What worsened such a relationship with Nissin was the following, as I pointed out in my previous article
As I pointed out in my previous article, the "Minato Akua Nissin POWER STATION LIVE Server Attack.
A server attack by a Chinese group that still hates holos caused the servers of the online LIVE STATION that Nissin had opened to its fullest to fall down, and the LIVE was forced to be cancelled.

The online LIVE site operated by Nissin Foods, one of Japan's leading companies, was embarrassed when the vulnerability of the server was made public.
It is not hard to imagine how much such a company abhors scandals.
The person in charge would have been severely reprimanded and possibly even disciplined.

Nevertheless, for Nissin, it is a form of secondary damage from the Holo blunder, and since no such thing happened in any other LIVE, it is just a victim.
Whether there was an apology from the cover company behind the scenes or not, all Nissin projects had disappeared since this incident.

Then came the announcement of the collaboration between Nissin Foods and Niji Sanji.
Moreover, the collaboration with Donbei, one of Nissin's most popular cup ramen products, is incomparable to a curry meal.
The choice of Niji Sanji, which has been recovering steadily since the second half of 2021 without the China problem, was a very justifiable one, as they have not only failed to resolve the mess with China, but have also caused trouble to the companies involved and have not even apologized.

In addition, more than half of the shoge projects that collaborated with Hololive have been terminated, including the infamous Sakura Revolution, which was a hot topic for a while.
The popularity of D4DJ, which has collaborated with Hololive more strongly than any other game with Hololive as a character, has been on a steady decline, and it is obvious that it has not benefited from the collaboration at all.

This event is a symbol of the fictional popularity of Hololive, and as we can see from Nissin's choice, the number of projects will decrease drastically from next year.
The projects that are going on right now are only being realized at the stage of popularity six months to a year ago, so it will be a year before we see the decline.

Once again, unless the China issue can be resolved, there is no future for HOLOLIVE.
Let me warn you once again that Cover Corporation should move with a huge sense of urgency and sincerity to its client companies.
Companies are not stupid. They too are beginning to realize the fiction of hololive.

>> No.18488109

>>18488074
ah, it's that hour again, time for me to go and sleep

>> No.18488199

>>18487831
>company that streams in a language Koreans can't speak
>losing to Koreans

utter insanity

>> No.18488210

>18488074
zhangchama...

>> No.18488251

>>18488074
Sounds more like some zhang fanfic

>> No.18488294

>>18476474
Kuzuha has really fallen off didn't he?

>> No.18488299

>>18488251
That's what it is. Zhang shitposts, zhang fanfiction, I'm not sure why anyone takes the shit that comes out of note seriously if it isn't backed by sources.

>> No.18488325

>18488074
lol what is this zhang propaganda

>> No.18488333

>>18488199
>company that streams in language Koreans can't speak
>have 3 talents that can speak Korean and 2 more that are interested in learning Korean
Stop with the Holocope, this is just embarrassing

>> No.18488352

>>18488074
Ah,Chink again

>> No.18488368

>>18488251
>>18488299
>fanfic
>when it's a fact that hololive collabs with mobile games have been tremendous failures compared to nijisanji's alchemy stars and genshin sponsorships

>> No.18488395

>>18488368
Show numbers then

>> No.18488423

> Defending Zhang
The state of Nijisanji

>> No.18488445

>>18488074
Those subhuman zhangs still have a bug up their ass about Hololive huh? Well good. Hololive is better of being the enemy of zhangs since soon the entire world will be the enemy of zhangs.....if they aren't already.

>> No.18488459

>>18485186
This

>> No.18488488
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>>18488251
>>18488299
kek this is your average zhang posters

>> No.18488529

>>18488368
>Alchemy Stars
What? Literally nobody has heard of this game
>Genchink Impact
Oh, its literally nothing

>> No.18488543

>>18488395
>hololive mobile game collabs
>Deep Insanity Asylum, Sakura Revolution, Lapis Relights, D4DJ, Heaven Burn Red
all failed or declining games, just check it out on https://game-i.daa.jp
>nijisanji mobile game collabs
>Project Sekai, Alchemy Stars, Genshin, Yugioh Master Duel
all some of the most successful games in japan

>> No.18488547

>>18488333
Your posts are really bad, anon. They're not even fun as bait.

>> No.18488570

>>18488488
Man, can /#/ get a thread id? Is it that hard to implement?

>> No.18488594

>>18488333
>none of which stream in Korean

>> No.18488621

>>18488543
sponsored!=collab

>> No.18488623

>>18488543
Nijisanji collab with a google mobile game. They even got a dozen livers shilling it. What happened to that?

>> No.18488669

>>18486604
I couldn't believe this problem still haunts Nijisanji even to this day. You're basically killing your box for no reason at all.

>> No.18488689

>>18488543
>Project Sekai
Literally nobody has heard of this game
>Alchemy Stars
Literally nobody has heard of this game
>Genchink Impact
Chinese game that you have to sell your soul to play
>Yugioh
Fucking Yugioh? Are you serious? What is this, 1999?

>> No.18488735

>>18488689
>Project Sekai
>literally no one has heard of this game
Anon-chama? Did you forget that Gura and Ina were sponsored by this game?

>> No.18488760

>>18488529
>Genshin Impact
>nothing
>biggest numbers of any mobile game ever
https://screenrant.com/genshin-impact-fortnite-gta5-first-year-revenue/

>> No.18488804

>>18488543
I don't think Nijisanji collabed with any of those, they were just sponsored, also I don't remember them being sponsored by Genshin or Yugioh, feel free to correct me

>> No.18488898

Bushiroad is making banks from their collab with Hololive to the point of sponsoring Hololive yearly festival.
What happened to that trading card game that has a collab with Nijisanji?

>> No.18488989

>>18488760
Nobody cares about shitty chink games faggot.

>> No.18489035

>>18488898
It just released an English version and has outsold even the big 3 card games last year

>> No.18489043

Who cares about all these shitty mobile game sponsorship. Niji has the upperhand from their Konami sponsorship of Power Pro

>> No.18489085

>>18488543

Nigger do you even know what a collab is?

>> No.18489114

>>18489043
Never heard of it

>> No.18489169

>>18489035
This is bushiroad number, right?

>> No.18489178

>>18488074
hey he made a new post
>https://note.com/anrimayura/n/n993de457b7bb
>Why is Hololive losing to Niji? ~100 Reasons to Hate Hololive~ (in progress)
jesas

>> No.18489233

>>18489169
>Bushiroad
>outselling the big 3
LMAO. They dropped 50% in sales after the Hololive Weiss set

>> No.18489256

>>18489178
Kek unironically need meds.

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>>18489178

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>>18489178
Nijiniggers everybody

>> No.18489322

>>18489233
Do you have the source on this? Last time Bushiroad post their graph, they had their largest sale in awhile due to Hololive.

>> No.18489349

>>18489178
LMAO

>> No.18489383

>>18489178
Doesn't seem like a chink, he hates Miko a lot and claims Cover fucked over Coco and Pekora.

>> No.18489550

>>18489383
He isn't a chink but he is a Nijinigger that worships chinks. Just like any Nijinigger licks the boots of the Chinese.

>> No.18489564

>>18488543
Funny how there's a sakura miko character now in Genshin. Who would've thunk

>> No.18489591

Taiwan is a country.

china is the Western Region of Taiwan.

>> No.18489636

>>18489564
Yae Miko is a copy paste character from Honkai Impact
The absolute state of Mihoyo

>> No.18489638

>>18489233
>>18489322 (me)

This is Hololive boosting bushiroad.
>>14976088

Why are you such a nijinigger, and where is your source for Nijisanji TCG?

>> No.18489706

Let it be known that Nijiniggers are compulsive liars.

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>>18489383
>>18489550
It's unclear whether he's a chink or not, but he's heavily supported by them

>> No.18489876

Here's another source for Bushiroad.

>>12963747

Thanks to Hololive, Bushiroad made their highest TCG sale in their history.

>> No.18489879

>>18489233
Why do you lie anon? Is living your life filled with lies such a good thing for you?

>> No.18489940

>>18489836
Keep in mind that these are the same people watching Luxiem. Tells you all you need to know about the kind of audience that Nijisanji fosters.

>> No.18489983

>>18489940
People that know what actual entertaining and talented Vtubers look like that aren't just there to milk you out off all the money you have? Sounds like good company

>> No.18490051

>>18489836
They'll support anyone who shits on hololive so not really surprising

>> No.18490088

>>18489983
>Pandering streams with 0 long-term entertainment value
>They're totally not milking as much money out of the audience ASAP before the next few waves drop and cut their earnings
By all means, continue with the mental gymnastics.

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