/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>18456418
Rushia is the one who has to apologize.

>>18456465
/thread

>>18456418
Shes just feeling the morning sickness
And will later test positive on a pregnancy test

>>18456418
>be fandead
>finds out your oshi has a twink bf
>finds out your oshi has been craving men other than her fans for 10 years
>finds out your oshi was desperately chasing twink dick after the first date
>gets no valentine stream
>gets no holofes
>become fancuck
>still support rushia
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>18456465
fpbp

>>18456465
why is the first post always the best post

>>18456465
as always

>>18456418
>Due to poor health
Mafu tore her ass open on Valentine’s huh?

>>18456508
Rushia and calliope can be abortion buddies!

>>18456547
How the hell is "craving men other than her fans for 10 years" an epic own uf Rushia and her fandead didn't even exist until 2019

>>18456465
sane

They don't want the people that bought tickets for their oshi to be forced to see her. That's all.

>>18456465
FPBP

>>18456465
fpbp

oh great, another week of extended drama

>>18456418
not surprising in the slightest, Rushia would be retarded to interact with a male in front of Fandread right now

>>18456465
Holy mother of based.

>>18456649
Anonchama... for 10 years include the 2019 too...

She'll be too busy having sex again, huh

>>18456418
Based, fuck that whore

Bro imagine the other members on stage awkwardly addressing her absence.
>"Um.. by the way people may ask why Rushia-chan's not here today. A-aha..."

so mori insults her fans, lies, gets drunk and goes on a twitter rant rating porn of her fucking a dude, and says she's high on opioids
>no break
rushia RECEIVES a discord message
>break, padded room, suicide watch

>>18456418
Graduate or else!

>>18456787
Mori never pushed herself as a surrogate gf for shutins

>>18456547
>>18456655
>>18456774
EOPniggers... this has nothing to do with 3rd fes.

>>18456465
Fpbp

>>18456787
Mori should be stoned to death

>>18456743
imagine the comedian guy making fun of her drama live
KEK

>>18456830
never said she did, I just thought the "sorry I'm actually high on opioids and that's why I rated cuck porn" was still 'break worthy' if this shit is

>>18456787
One didn't matter and the other did. You can't really compare them in impact or the level of importance that Rushia and mafumafu have with Mori. Hell, /vt/'s post rate didn't even go up for Mori's nonsense but 3 of the fastest 5 days on record happened since the Rushia scandal happened.

Fucking hell. I was hoping that would be the thing to force her back into the public eye. At this rate she's just going to withdraw indefinitely.

>>18456787
>EN whore
there's your problem. Nobody cares about them, they're a lost cause already

>>18456465
fpbp

>>18456833
They can't even be EOPniggers because OP clearly "3rd Anniversary" and never mentioned holofes

>>18456787
EN and JP branches work differently

>>18456465
Uhhh Fancucks??

>>18456418
>Be the master manipulator, still get treated like the victim
Women, everyone.

>>18456760
But why would fandead give a shit if she were interested in other men before she even met them? Every girl in existence has been like that, that's a genuine impossible standard to meet unless theyre asexual or have known theyre a dyke their entire life

>>18456879
I would suck his cock.

>>18456888
I agree for the fans, but I was talking about from Cover's perspective. I'd much rather find out an employee received a message on screen than find out my employee told the world she was high on opiates while working

>>18456465
FPBP

>>18456418
tummy hort

>>18457015
Yeah, I concede that point. I guess Cover only cares about the squeakiest wheel and the double standard for JPs and ENs is still jarring.

>>18457015
Mori's entire shtick is that she is a white person pretending to be a nigger. Cover knew what hiring a spiritual nigger would entail. Drug usage is simply a cultural trait of niggers, of which Mori aspires to be. So, I don't think Cover cares. At this point, Japanese are slowly starting to get used to nigger culture and find it cool anyway.

>>18456879
He would do it too, nips comedians give no fucks.

>>18456465
Inshahlla brother

>>18456787
>still trying to revive the dead nothingburger mori drama
'lol'
'lmao'

>>18457134
lol old news everyone in the world whats to be black

>>18456957
It's that and fancucks still THINK that Rushia and Mafu are just friends. Meds won't help them, they're beyond help.

>>18456418
>Poor health
I wonder where I had heard that excuse before...
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-10-16/the-idolm@ster-shiny-colors-voice-actress-runa-narumi-goes-on-hiatus-due-to-health/.178501
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-12-29/voice-actress-runa-narumi-retires-from-entertainment-industry/.181100

>>18457233
theres been 30 threads in the past 2 days trying to cancel mori and holo en dude sounds more like butt hurt former mori fans cuz cdwag is railing her and not them

>>18456957
Women should never be held accountable for their actions, you incel. Touch grass.

>>18457335 gura is always sick at this point they should just buy her a bed at a hospital

>>18457373
>Women only do wrong things when they are pedophiles
This is your mindset by the way

>>18457335
Nakadashi x4

>>18456418
>HAHAHAHA /VT/ BTFO ONCE AGAIN! TAKE THAT YOU LOSERS! POWERLESS AS ALWAYS!
>Look what you did /vt/, you better apologize!

>>18457335
Fancucks have extreme autism if they cant read between the lines.

If she doesnt graduate in a month or 9 months later she got an abortion. Otherwise give name suggestions for Mafumafu's baby.

Regardless of sides, some of you faggots massively overestimate the influence /vt/ has on the JP scene.

>>18457529
Nah we only have influence on twittertards that didn't have an influence on anything in the first place.

>>18456465
This

>>18457346
>>18457233
yeah looking back at my post it does look like I was a butthurt deadcuck, that's my bad for framing it wrong. The point I was actually trying to ask was 'how the fuck does cover make executive decisions about yabs" because it seems incredibly haphazard. I'm surprised they don't have a better PR playbook in place because it is frankly weird to put one girl on hiatus over a discord message but do nothing over mori's chimpout.

>>18457524 would be funny if they replace her with someone that sounds like her or help her fake her death then come back as new vtuber

>>18456879
You know, this is the same guy that shat on Nijimales when they were on his show, he said something along the line of 'seriously? who the fuck watch male lmao' or something like that.

>>18456465
FPBP

>>18456465
Lol, FPBP as per usual

>>18457524
There is still Holofes and Holoexpo retard.
At this rate I would not be surprised if Mori and Rushia actually want to fuck off from Hololive and that's why they made all those yabais but Cover wants to keep them at least until HoloFes it's over so their image doens't plummet into the floor.
Like, imagine if one Holo, in special a popular one, leaves before Holofes.

>>18456547
>gets no holofes
wait what? she called holofest off or this rrat?

>>18457737
There is nothing said about her participation on Holofes yet.

>>18456787
I mean, it worked, Mori streaming like nothig happened immediatly defused the situation.

>>18456787
>TFW her roommate is more interesting than the vtuber. She should just stick to whatever passes as J-rap these days

>>18456944
I'm here.
>>18456465
FPBP, she lied about not having male friends at the very least.

>>18456418
>poor health
She's pregnant isn't she? I feel sorry for fancucks.

>>18457637 mori is not as famous as rushia so no one is going to give a shit about small timers drama its just cover trying to break in to the eng world plus jps don't really understand the west so for all jp knows what cali did was part of her character

>>18456465
It's that simple

>>18456465
Dude wwowzers liek first poast beest nigger post@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!1

>>18456418

>>18457672
In that case let's hope he brings it hope and make fun of it.

>>18457732 mori has said she want to do twitch so she can stream what she wants and when she wants but cover is trying to put in the rap community since there's no female rapper vtubers that speak english and are good at it

>>18457968
Go back to plebbit, faggot.

>>18456787
EN is full of cuckolds would gladly welcome Mori fucking some other guy in front of them. It's not surprising.

>>18457335
Thanks for the "facts", reddit.

>>18456465
Asshole

>>18458128
Female

>>18456787
Rushia's ENTIRE persona is being questioned for the first time ever. Everybody knew Mori was an alcoholic slut who hated her fans since 2020. There's a difference.

>>18456465
firstposter....I KNEEL

>>18456869
Based
All whores should be

>>18456879
>>18457672
My knees. Have mercy

>>18456465
>>18456495
>>18456569
>>18456582
>>18456595
>>18456653
>>18456690
>>18456699
>>18456755
>>18456850
>>18456928
>>18456944
>>18457016
>>18457216
>>18457610
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>>18457718
>>18457841
>>18457946
>>18458200
samefaggot

>>18456465
fpbp
At least you are not asking for her head anymore.

moris the only one from hololive en who is in the top 15 superchat earners worldwide she made 60k in feb

>>18457637
Mori’s shot wasn’t on stream and wasn’t counter to her marketing.

>>18456465
>Rushia is the one who has to apologize.

>>18456418
Lame.
>>18456465
Mentally ill retard. She's shit but she doesn't have to apologize for you being a moron.

>>18457672
is there any clips of this?

>>18458042
>cover is trying to put in the rap community
>When she funded and promoted all her songs
At least watch streams retard, she still wants to do music but outside Hololive's boundaries, even more now that she gained more followers than she ever imagined.

rushia made 3 mil since her debut and cail is in the top 10 for most earnings in a year no other member shes there money make alest tell baes numbers come out

>>18458315
meds

>>18456465
fpbp

>>18458379
And she blows most of it on drugs, name brand clothes, and simping for male ecelebs
She's a real piece of shit garbage human even for a woman

>>18458315
Meds

>>18458593
oh boy someone pissed off a cdawg dick kisser

I unironically don't believe Rushia x Mafu is real. This whole astroturfed controversy was just people from both sides making up their own headcanon and blowing everything out of proportion. Cuckposting trolls saying they're dating to generate drama and shit up /vt/, and EOP normalfags on social media insisting that they're dating so they can virtue signal and attack the incel gachikois.

>>18456418
That's quite the reaction to message from someone who's just an acquitance appearing on screen

>>18456465
This is for you king, it urgent.

>>18458315
Meds. Now.

>>18458585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlsCGHatHAk

>>18458679
>I unironically don't believe Rushia x Mafu is real. This whole astroturfed controversy was just people from both sides making up their own headcanon and blowing everything out of proportion. Cuckposting trolls saying they're dating to generate drama and shit up /vt/, and EOP normalfags on social media insisting that they're dating so they can virtue signal and attack the incel gachikois.

>>18458042
She's a Cover employee and needs to follow their guidelines, her behavior reflects and affects the entire company for better or worse.

Mori is free to do anything she wants without the Mori persona. This is straight from the horse's mouth, they don't care as long as it doesn't bleed into their domain.

>>18458649
and yet she makes more money then anyone in holo en and gets laid unlike %100 of the people her crying about some pixals

>>18458757
case in point

Now she has more time to suck dick while thinking about an excuse to tell her cucks

>>18458780
OMG YASSSS QUEEN SLAY
WE LOVE BEING KEKED

>>18458679
Fancucks are built different

This is some straw reaching schizo levels. Rushia's career is built on finding whales that dump massive trains of Red Superchats and have a chain reaction of other watches to donate some cash in an attempt to keep up with lonely whales.
Suggestion its some media campaign to gain more media attention is fucking moronic. Especially when you factor in already planned events within 2 months time frame that should generate more buzz/media attention.

Continue to cope and suck Mafu's cum out Rushia's cunt

>>18456465
NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THAT

>>18458091
DUDE FIRST POST???

>>18458533
>Be Rushia
>Be in a relationship
>Try GFE as joke
>People buys it and throws you lots of money
>Realize you can milk your fanbase this way
>Keep doing it for the next three years
>Every time you do you feed these retards delusions
>You know you can put a stop to it but you wont
>One day a slight mistake shattered the whole delusion you've built up until now
>Your house of paper begins to collapse

Rushia isnt even my oshi, but come on anon. If she was in a relationship before joining hololive and still decided to do GFE seriously and keep it up for years, what's that called?

>>18456465
Allahmdullilah, brother. Look at the seething replies! Inshallah, these Holo-whores will be brought to God's justice and taught harshly not to run their mouths. Truly God is Highest, Greatest.

>>18458798
You're retarded

>>18456465
Yessu, ai aguri. Rushia-san izu notto unda Co-ba co-poso dire-ktu conturaru ando musto do itto on ha oan.

>>18458771
lol cover has no guidelines sanas been doing side work for other companys instead of streaming like she should be most of hololive is sick or just don't feel like streaming cover is a shit show

>>18458780
stop LARPing as some normalfaggot, schizo. It won't get you internet points here

>>18458892
she made 3mil off super chats shes throat goat

>>18458997
As long as they bring in money Cover doesn't care

>>18458977
>>18457216
based

>>18456465
Absolutely based. Simps and cucks BTFO.

>>18456418
Wonder how deep the knife got before they took her to the hospital. Or was it pills?

>>18456465
Based, fancucks and deadcucks BTFO

>>18458675
Cannur is just the cherry on top
Who the fuck knows if she wants to be his cockcleeve but is deam obvious she will leave Hololive soon.

>>18459003
internet points your redditfag is showing you should go back your missing out on all the points

>>18456465
basado

>>18459192
No. Internet. Points.
Stop posting you drooling imbecile.

>>18458109
JP is full of cuckolds supporting Rushia. She's just acting like a drama queen pity baiting as she always does.

VICTORY

>>18459155 she should go solo or move to vshojo they basically do whatever they want plus they love mori

>>18458126
>Stop posting real-life examples! Stick to schizo fantasies which I'm comfortable with!

>>18456418
Hope the bitch misses 3rd fes too

>>18458315
You need to take your medication, anon. You're seeing beyond the Matrix too much.

Can anyone give me a rundown of what happened to Rushia stuff?

>>18456465
Holy based

>>18456465
fpbp

>>18458679
So unreal that she goes radio silent for a week including on Valentine's. Massive deadcuck cope

>>18458315
meds

>>18456465
Based.
I don't know who Rushia is, though. I did recently learn to someone named Mii-chan who may have done something bad.

>>18456465

>>18458176
Mori truly loves her fans
She just get swayed by emotions a little too much

>>18459419
Nope. Too busy. The schadenfreude is too intense and delicious

>>18456465
king shit

For what it's worth I'm a fandead and >>18456465 is right. We didn't do anything wrong as fans, this is on her, she's gonna have to explain it and say there's nothing other than them being apex friends now.

>>18459692
Funny thing is just them being "apex friends" already makes Rushia a big liar.

>>18459590
>Mori truly loves her fans

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1493570997832011776
meanwhile she is about to do a stream on her roommate account

>>18459692
the die hard fans have forgiven her it just the butthurt morons that are mad she's going to come back huge if she don't kill her self or one of the butthurt fans get to her

>>18456465
unfathomably based

>>18458315
Meds

>>18456418
Not a fandead, I don't mind that she has a boyfriend but I do think it's kind of scummy that she did the GFE/psychotic girlfriend act for several years while basically living in with another man and not telling anyone about it.
I mean if you want to have a relationship, great. Don't string along lonely, horny men for money even if they do sort of deserve it. Find another shtick for your vtuber persona otherwise what you are doing is basically exploitation. Regardless of how much social worth the people you're exploiting have, it's still exploitation. I am not to the point where I think incels are subhuman yet and deserve no rights. They are still people, too, and nobody has considered their feelings throughout the whole thing because shitting on them is a national pasttime of the internet.

>>18459419
tldr some guy called Mafumafu contacted Rushia on her discord saying "I'm coming home soon, [Roommate name]-chan", while she was playing GTA5 with Miko.
None of it really made any sense, she was worried about the radio playing music but didn't think to disable the music in the in-game settings? And the stream was apparently said to have the replay function enabled so she'd probably have to private it anyways because of the radio stations, and it still doesn't make sense that she would add the guy on a discord account technically meant for use for business by Cover.
Not a ton of it really matters since her JP fans seem to be indifferent and just want her back. Mafu's fujo fanbase seems fucking pissed though.

>>18459635
Pretty Please, with a peace of Bacon?

>>18459781
>butthurt morons
getting milked for roughly ~2 years while living a lie is a pretty good reason to be butthurt, even if you feel they deserve it for giving money to an anime woman in the first place.
She should have just been up front with it the whole time and it wouldn't have exploded this way.

>>18459893
Well, it would still be exploitation even if she didn't have a boyfriend.

>>18459419
>mii-chan doing a stream
>gets discord message from mafumafu who says something along the lines that he's coming home
>everyone saw the message
mii-chan does girlfriend experience content and that's what her fans like about her. She's basically their girlfriend.
So the message showing up on discord is equivalent to your girl getting a message from a strange guy and it raises suspicion of her being 'unfaithfu' to her fans.
That's why there is a bit of an issue, but not too bad because the message was not really explicit.
The REAL issue is the response coming from brainless western fans. They're saying that the people who are complaining are stupid and that there's nothing wrong with mii-chan having a boyfriend.
It's an issue because them saying to everyone mii-chan is a cheating bitch who is stringing people along emotionally and financially.
Is she really doing that? Probably not. It may be a harmless misunderstanding.
But the retarded white knights are hurting her more with their support than the message itself.

>>18459937
na trolls from 4chan made it blow up and still are its funny how people can't see it

>>18459964
True but if she's selling the GFE/psychotic girlfriend act, it's at least an honest exploitation. Nothing she has said or done up until this point was considered incorrect or inaccurate.

>>18459692
>We don't do anything wrong, we're not cucks!
Friend, I'm gonna be real with you because it's unfair if we pretend it to be otherwise. You are, by definition, a cuck.

>>18460020
Not really. She doesn't honestly love her fans romantically, regardless of the presence or absence of a BF. It's dishonest exploitation either way.

>>18460013
The only influence this place is over indonesian facebook groups

>>18459692
I mean you did do something wrong, you fell into the GFE hole knowing that what you were believing in was tenuous at best.
Do I think you deserve ridicule for it? A little. I just don't think you deserve to be exploited for it.

>>18459964
Not that anon, but I disagree. It has a major implication exactly because she has a boyfriend.

If she didn't then she'd be just acting her character and there's nothing wrong with that. But the fact that she has a boyfriend make it look both scummy and backstabing.

>>18460063
Most people don't understand that people are mad about the rushia and cali yabs is because they're being dishonest and rude to their own fans.

>>18456418
>Rushia gives her fans the yandere act and getting mad if they watch other girls
>But is getting dicked down on the side
Some ntr kino right here

>>18460107
If she's just acting a character, the relationship status of the actor has no bearing on the character.

>>18456787
t. Deadbeat
Your drama is old hat. Move the fuck on.

>>18460063
I think >>18460107 has it right. It's one thing to sell yourself as a girlfriend to tons of horny virgins who have zero chance of ever meeting or hooking up with you and it's another to do it while you're in a relationship that you're desperately hiding that you're in because you're aware that the presence of which detracts from the legitimacy of the previous act.

>>18460173
It is when that character sold herself as being attached to her fans. If she was up front about it the entire time, no one would care. Few care, now.

>>18460173
Usually that's true, but for Rushia who whole persona is about GFE then it does have a major bearing.

>>18460215
>cuckbeat deflection

>>18459893
Kind of rare to see somebody with a rational take on the whole debacle

>>18456649
Anon.... it's 2029, you have to wake up....

>>18457015
Anon you don't have the first idea about corporate culture.

>>18460013
Yeah fucking right, we have very very little influence over JP matters. EN is a different story however. What made this blow up is the actual Japanese audience, and the twitter normalfags seem utterly unable to comprehend that this is 98% a Japan thing and there are very few legit overseas fandead who have a real horse in this race (longtime members/big donors etc).

>>18460166
Jokes on her, I've been cheating on her the whole time.

>>18456787
>>18460241
Mori is no where near as bad as Rushia's circumstance, though. Mori was an asshole to her die-hard fans about some twitter fuckup. That's kind of in-character no matter how you slice it. Rushia lived what is essentially a lie for a long time, and tried to get others to buy into that lie for profit. I think there's a clear line there between some hurt feelings and hurt egos.

>>18460173
I swear we need to have a fucking infographic explaining "rushia is not a normal streamer at all, she does not present herself as being in a platonic relationship with her fans and her entire structure revolves around grooming her fanbase into becoming gachikoi on the premise that she is just for them and constantly begs them to trust her on this."

>>18456465
fpbp

>>18460013
/vt/ isn't behind any of this, this is a conflict between Rushia and her gachis. The only thing going on here is shitposting about the happening.

>>18460262
I just don't see the point in trying to treat her fans as less than human. All across /vt/, twitter, reddit, everywhere I've seen; the prevailing attitude is that her fans deserve it regardless if it was true or not and have no right to complain. Which I don't think is true because they are still people who were living an identity they believed to be real. The same people would likely agree that even serial killers get human rights, but not incels on the internet.

>>18459929
>>18460005
...thats all? Honestly i was expecting something more.Well...damage control is a thing so, yeah.
Thanks for answer me,heres the piece of bacon.
Now back to listei powerwolf.

>>18459286
please take a shower

>>18460229
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>>18460348
I don't disagree with any of that, I'm just saying that Rushia is dishonestly exploiting ronery retards regardless of her relationship status. The only difference is that said retards have to confront their gullibility if they learn she has a BF.

Anyone have a list of vtubers who provide the cuck experience? Because I sure most of these holofags love that their oshi's are getting railed by their bf's.

>>18460173
It doesn't normally. I think the main difference is that Rushia supposedly leaned in super heavy with being the chat's girlfriend, taking it beyond simple yandere gags like "Don't watch other girls" or lighthearted flirts to being accused of stalking fandead on social media and really going in heavy with the menhera aspect for membership content.
I think going that hard basically screwed her over since ENs view her as funny pettan screaming lady not knowing it went this far, while Cover made the dumb choice of using idol imagery for this long on their promotional material. It still would've caused a ruckus like Kuzuha and Blue Oni in Nijisanji, but dumping the idol aspect and embracing the comedian/entertainer bit more would've ensured this wouldn't have caused this much of a stink.

>>18460444
You have a fair point, then again I think that's just how operates showbiz industry. Exploiting retards somehow.

>>18460321
>Mori was an asshole to her die-hard fans
I don't know how this is easily dismissible to you, aren't you a big fan? If you're self-admitted casual/clip watcher then gtfo, faggot.

>>18460287
This.
Intitally when I first heard the news i didnt think much of it and thought it was like another Manoe Aloe situation. Where Japanese incels went overboard discovering a young woman likes sex, shocking.

But after some more things came to my attention I got a bit more worried how fucked the situation is or knowing more about Rushia. I legit thought she was a horrible person when she came out with the pink model or no reason other then to appear more cutesy and wholesome(?)

Now I stopped caring other then to call out fancucks still in denial.

>>18460063
>tfw my oshi says she'll never be romantically involved with her fans
>tfw she also says her fans are free to imagine she's their girlfriend
>tfw she delivers the most authentic GFE in Hololive without even realizing it
>tfw her fans adore her but also understand her clear boundaries
>tfw her relationship with fans is healthy and wholesome
I love her so fucking much.

>>18460593
Kiara is based and does it right, I'm glad /vt/ turned around on her even if it took my oshi Mori being the scapegoat for it to happen.

>>18456418
>/vt/ has to apologize to rushia before its too late..
>implying rushia is /here/ and can understand english
>blamming /vt/ when twitfags are at fault
so sad that /vt/ fallen down to doormat tier

Fancucks are the biggest cucks on the planet taking her back so easily after all this, kek

>>18460444
Is it really exploitation at that point if they knew the reality beforehand, though? You and I both know the reality that we're all just watching mediocre streamers behind an anime avatar regardless if we're attracted to them or not. At the very least we're educated about the reality of the matter.

Let's frame it this way: We remember Belle Daphine selling her bathwater because it was an internet meme, but what if it came out that it wasn't her bathwater at all but instead just faucet water a team of fifty people assembled from tap water and old whiskey shotglasses. I mean, yeah, it's awful that people bought into that shit in the first place, but at least they got exactly what they asked for. Isn't it a layer worse if it wasn't even that? If even the lie they were sold was also a lie? I think these kinds of people ultimately need help, but this kind of lying just further reinforces the lie they've built that this is the only way anyone will ever accept them.

>>18460409
Its not really much more than that, the only thing where Rushia probably has egg on her face is whether or not it'll affect her content going forward.
Also there's questions about whether mafu's female fans are gonna go after Rushia more than anything. That or JP normalfags since apparently this story went to Yahoo or something.

>>18460651
>scapegoat
Kill yourself cuckbeat. Your whore deserves everything she is getting.

>>18460543
>aren't you a big fan?
No.
> If you're self-admitted casual/clip watcher then gtfo, faggot.
Why? This is objectively what happened. She was an asshole over being an asshole on twitter.
It's not great, don't get me wrong, it's a terrible PR fuckup for someone whose job is PR for her own fans. At the same time, I don't place them in the same category at all. One is abrasiveness followed by getting the internet to treat her own fans as less than human for being mad that she was abrasive. Which is a scum thing to do.

But the other is outright fabrication of an identity.

>>18460409
It would have been worse if the message was really damning. But it just all amounts to a misunderstanding that leads to people being emotionally hurt.
Again, you have to take the point of view as someone who is in a relationship and sees something suspicious.

>>18460543
Damn you really wanted him to be angry and frustrated like you.

>>18456547
Topkek
>Sells GFE
>Found out lying whore
Imagine being fancuck defending this

>>18460651
>scapegoat
Scapegoat for what? Mori's fuckup and Kiara's growth are two separate things.

>>18460651
wait, what happened to turn her around? i haven't been here or watched vtubers for a while and last time i was here orange woman was still bad

>>18458315
Meds. You should take them

>>18460860
Kiara never did anything to deserve the hate, she just had the lowest numbers and an unpopular voice, so she was the low-hanging fruit for schizos. Once hating on Sana and Mori got trendier she stopped getting as much hate here.

>>18460752
Cringe kfp spammer. By the way your constant anti campaign on global doesn't work. Sucks to suck.

>>18460767
Of course you don't place these fuckups in the same category but you also don't put yourself in the pit of choosing the "lesser evil". It's like a guy allergic to fruit comparing apples to oranges.

>>18460859
Kiara's been great ever since she got through her rough patch near debut. You were just too much of a retard to see it.

>>18460696
Yeah it is exploitative Fancuck.

Belle Daphine is more ex oriented to the point of selling fleshlights and doing OnlyFans vaginal sex videos.

Rushia is marketed more as something more intimate and selling faux wedding rings.

Belle can listen to fans and eventually do anal scenes or w/e some whale coomer will dump on her.
Rushia manipulates whales to continue to donate to her and make her seem more important then she is.

>>18456465
YOU CAN'T BE THAT BASED SO EARLY IN THE THREAD IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE REST OF US

>>18460969
Take your meds, retard

>>18456465
oof

>>18460812
Yes? Casual niggers should leave.

>>18460860
>>18460937
The initial hate from eggs was predicated a lot on fearmongering that she was gonna ruin Hololive and bring a bunch of external shit into it. Since almost a year and a half in it clearly turns out that that was Mori beyond a shadow of doubt (who Kiara has distanced herself from to boot), basically you'd have to be kind of a complete fucking moron to really believe that she's a threat.

>>18460937
but why are mori and sana trendier to hate now? i've heard sprinkles about mori doing some dumbshit on twitter at least, but i haven't heard anything about sana

>>18461015
KFP chill the fuck out, I didn't say Kiara only JUST got good. As far as I'm concerned, your oshi's been great since debut and flourished since then.

>>18461178
Sana is basically the same as early Kiara, she just has the lowest numbers and had a less popular design, so she's the easy hate lightning rod for Council. Mori shitposted under a Rent a girlfriend meme with her on Twitter and schizos interpreted that as insulting her fans somehow, and then tweeted a couple badly worded apologies.

>>18456418
She's starting to fade away similar to Yuzuki Roa

>>18461178
People see Sana as very undeserving of a Holo spot since she's not that good of a streamer and is not even putting much effort into it (barely streams at all). So people hate her since they think the only reason she got the job over others was nepotism from Ina. Also the model.

>>18460860
Tard anons came to realize that orange woman works really hard and genuinely loves being a hololive vtuber and knows when to keep the status quo. This was put in stark contrast with mori, who has the enthusiasm of a wet sponge that really doesn't want to be a vtuber for hololive and continually brings into the picture and vehemently defends bad actors who have actively shat on all the girls and has no remorse.
Someone with this kind of passive contempt for their fans and coworkers and senpai should leave before they do any lasting damage.
And then there's Sana who's scored a golden ticket and done jack shit with it.
Compared to all this genuine orange woman with the annoying voice isn't so bad.

>>18461283
they are not the same at all. say what you want about kiara, but she's always put in the effort no matter what. sana is a lazy bitch and doesn't deserve anything more.

I only watch Rushia for the desk slams

>>18461340
>>18461403
I wonder how you'll praise Mori and Sana to shit on the new girl in a year kek

>>18461015
Triggered KFPcel. Reminder that she supported BLM. We will never let that go.
>What?? How dare you anon?? That was years ag-
Never. Let. It. Go.

>>18461178
Sana hardly streams, yesterday was the first one she had done in nearly two weeks. To boot when she does stream, lately it's been mostly just animal crossing/pokemon spam. She has an odd pattern of not streaming much numerically but when she does go she might go for like ten hours. This makes for big bloated VODs few want to see. So she seems to be practically engineering herself into irrelevance. I mean she is the least-subbed Holo still and it's by almost 50% beneath Anya. You might argue sure a lot of her subs got Susan-snapped but this affected all of Council as well.

>>18460274
no that's their only good point. Japanese corporate culture doesn't joke about drugs. I'm surprised nothing came of it, but nothing came of it. It's still a surprise given Japanese corporate culture. The only explanation that has ever touched it is they don't give a shit about HoloEn, because Japanese corporations do NOT fuck around about drug use even as a joke

>>18461422
I kinda doubt it, there's nothing there to even praise with Sana if you aren't a pokemon fan. She's literally just a footnote in Holo history which is kind of fucking amazing considering she is supposed to be on-par as a full blown member like any other. It feels real weird imagining technically she brushes shoulders with other new talents like Koyori who stream like utter fucking beasts in contrast.

>>18458951
A whore
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAH

>>18459893
Nice

>>18460696
Well that's where it gets less cut and dry. I mean obviously you can say that most of the fandead are consenting adults or whatever, but in that case I guess its like falling for a hostess or a sex worker. Who's to blame if the client falls for the service provider, do you blame the client for being a lonely sap, or do you pin the blame on the provider for doing who knows what to get as much money as possible.

>>18456879
He's exactly the person that'd do that as well kek
Or the Gaki No Tsukai guys, they mock each other all the time when they had relationship scandals.

>>18461696
Anon, there is no universe in which the hooker is to blame for the John catching feelings like a retard.

It's so funny, people always picture their oshi getting railed in situations like these and they actually imagine the anime girl having sex, when in reality it's just a random japanese woman they don't know. I could show you a picture of her getting fucked and the only response I'd get from 99% of you would be a "Huh? Who's this?"
I'll never know how people deluded themselves into thinking that the person behind the screen is also their oshi.
Also.
>She lied to her fans!
Duh, GFE is make-believe even if she goes the extra mile to make it as believable as possible, and it's hilarious that you think she shold give up her personal life for it as if this was The Truman Show.
>Muh Exploitation
If you had a problem with this, you wouldn't be focusing on Rushia only, you'd demand every GFE streamer to stop. Boycott cigarette companies too while we're at it.
The only thing she should apologize for is being stupid enough for having mafumafu on her hololive discord account, regardless if there was a bug with streamer mode or not.

Only schizophrenics will disagree with this.

>>18461565
I'm done praising Sana because she doesn't stream, but she did look like she could be a middling success at one point, right after the "break." She's witty, intelligent, doesn't milk jokes too long, uses her lore without it getting cringe over-relying on it, etc. Good skill set, and at the beginning had some creative ideas, which quickly just became pokemon spam.

But who cares? She doesn't stream. She doesn't communicate. Her failure is her lack of activity. She could have been middle of the pack and forgettable but she actively chose to be the worst.

>>18461533
You don't know what's going on in the background, maybe Mori did get an earful from management other than J-Chad and that frustrated her enough to decide not to post regular schedules for some time.

Cover continues giving trolls exactly what they ask for.

>>18461283
>Mori shitposted under a Rent a girlfriend meme with her on Twitter and schizos interpreted that as insulting her fans somehow, and then tweeted a couple badly worded apologies.
People gloss over the initial trigger to these episodes, making it all one event really, which I believe is the real grievance: remember this all started when mori exploded and shat on a deadbeat in a member's stream for daring to suggest that her bringing up one of the trashtaste anitubers that has actively shat all over hololive talents wasn't necessarily a good idea.
Everything else spawned from this one event and this is the SC that lived rent-free in mori's head, not the condom one. It lived rent free so hard it precipitated her downward spiral leading to the digging up of that week old shirpost deadcuck art and her getting downboated on the leddit hugbox of all places.

There was an element of truth to that initial SC, and she didn't like it. The truth being that she implicitly agrees with the anituber that she, her genmates and everyone that built hololive are talentless hacks. She didn't like mirror being shown at her own thoughts.
>>18461422
Unlikely as she'll have hopefully left before then.
It's what she wants.
Good ridddance.

>>18461696
It is cut and dry. The difference between irl situations and online isnt the same.

If someone gets fooled by a hostess or sex worker other people looking on laughs or pretends they didnt see anything.

Online you get the benefit of other lonely men competing against each other trying to out donate each other.
ffs anon, we have people jumping bandwagon in this thread posting fpbp and dont give a fuck other then making post reply list bigger. You dont think Fancucks do the same to make Rushia viewership bigger and in turn, have more lonely men more likely to donate?

>>18461900
>Unlikely as she'll have hopefully left before then.
kek see ya in a year anon, you'll find me in /morig/

Tfw sana got to get into the gig through Ina nepotism (ugh) and hasnt done anything at all with the opportunity that gives her.

I'd still kiss her though!

>>18461420
There's nothing wrong with BLM

>>18456418
Apologize?

>>18456418
Nigga, fuck her.

>>18461870
>an earful
sure thing, entirely possible, I bet there was a real finger-wagging scorn session with her manager about how she needs to stop getting black out wasted or high when on the job, which of course, is irrelevant because it's not even remotely comparable to getting put on break and missing yearly event milestones

>>18461814
Yeah that's the annoying part, I actually don't dislike her when she's in a groove talking, she doesn't put up with the retarded redditor holo memer shit at all, she has fucking excellent taste in anime, speaks Japanese etc. She's really really fucking cool as a person and a pleasant streamer, "english Nene" is a bit apt only she's not an airhead like nene. So to waste what would be a very good stream personality and someone who feels very real and down to earth bringing good balance to Council overall being kind of cartoony/fake feeling, is a fucking shame.

If she played her cards right not only would she have recovered but people probably would have been saying she's the best actual quality of streamer in Council, because she kind of is when she's not up to her eyeballs in Animal Crossing which is going to be almost impossible to make an exciting stream of. I still hold out hope that she can get out of her rut, I mean Mumei was in kind of a rough patch back in october when she hardly streamed and she was still leaning really hard into that clueless airhead persona but dug her way out and found solid footing.

>>18456465

>>18462038
A superpac for a political party disingenuously disguising itself as a legit grassroots movement that ends up causing havok and wanton destruction during a pandemic is not a good thing. Kiara's still a moronic european that doesn't know shit about the US, but she keeps that shit to herself and out of her Holo streams so who gives a shit.

>>18456418
>apologize
Ladies first
t. gentleman

>>18456958
>or have known theyre a dyke their entire life
I mean the entire point of being a lesbian is you're not interested in men... you wouldn't have to "know" you just wouldn't be interested in men from the start.

>>18462324
Most dykes are dykes because no man wants to be near them

>>18461775
Mid-wit takes. What people choose to do with their money or free time is on them.

But to suggest Rushia didnt get as big as she did without aggressive marketing or targeted influence on whales is fucking stupid.
And even more schizo to think there isnt a snowball effect when more people get lumped into a bizarre para-social relationship and further catering towards it.

I think Rushia is a shit person. I think Fancucks are shit people. And I just want to continue to call out Fancucks and tell them the best way to cope is to DM Rushia dick pics asking if she would smash or pass.

>>18462385
Most dykes are dykes because boobs are fucking awesome.

>>18456547
No, I don't want that! Rushia with another man?! I want her to think about me for a while! For ten years at the very least!

>>18462404
Kek no. Most are ugly and fat and still use strap ons.

>poor health
lol
lmao

>>18462430
t. redditcuck

>>18462239
lol your conspiracy theory relies on black people having money and that didn't make you think about it a little deeper? There's nothing wrong with BLM because it's completely fucking irrelevant powerless, not because they're shadow running the government with Kang funds

>>18462457
A parasite dislodged from its host is going to quickly fall into poor health, yes.

>>18460937
Kiara ended up being better than expected, and it turns out Mori was the bad apple in holomyth all along.
This doesn't change the fact that Kiara is an unsufferable faggot who's extremely self-centered and egocentric, it's just that she at least puts effort into her job.
I remember when Kiara said that the "lower-left" meme hurt her very delicate feelings because God-forbid someone jokingly call her lewd and dumb (when that's pretty much an accurate description). She said something along the lines of "jokes like this really undermine all of my accomplishments", which on one account shows a lot of emotional fragility (a common theme with Kiara) but also, while I definitely agree that she has accomplished a lot, is mind-boggingly poorly worded in a way that makes it seem like she thinks she's making the world a huge favour by streaming.

>>18462614
You're sounding pretty fragile yourself anon.

>>18458951
>>Try GFE as joke

>>18456418
I'm going to make rice

>>18456465
Based

>>18462614
hard disagree, ending bottom-left was the best thing kiara ever did and showed real effectiveness at tard-wrangling her fans, which she really didn't do up til that point. More of them should cull jokes when they get old, otherwise the chumkeks spread them to other chats

>>18462457
He fucked her so hard she's injured

>>18462159
The other EN girls would have pulled out of Holo FES if Mori had been suspended. Think smarter, anon.

>>18462673
>n-no you!
k
I don't hate Kiara or anything, she at least seems to be more professional about her job than most EN holos, and that's good. I just explained to the anon that said that Kiara never deserved hate why some people like me don't like her.

>>18461340

She brought on the great betrayer and tried to bring on someone else who shat on Hololive but is now trying to ape the aspects of Hololive that she shat on.

>>18462818
Yeah, and I explain that this stuff would only bother you if you're a fragile and looking for stuff to be offended by. Like, seriously "shows a lot of emotional fragility"? Kek this isn't even nothing, she's just tardwrangling a dead meme.

>>18462187
I agree she has a chance of a kiara redemption arc. The big difference is kiara is a numberfag yhat was willing to do whatever it took to grow in spite of the hate. Sana has already shown she doesnt care to listen.

>>18462903
k bud.
I don't like listening to a streamer crying, if you enjoy that kind of thing then good for you.

>>18456879
Holy shit, I'd fucking kneel.

>>18456465
>Cheat on fanbase
>"I-it's you!"
fpbp as usual

>>18458734
lmao. Poor guy has to explain why he has fans at all.

>>18462516
Brainlet with zero reading comprehsion.

>>18462457
mafumafu pelvic crushed ahh break 3 month

>>18456465
this

>>18456465
Fpbp /thread

>>18462810
holy shit you're retarded, I never even said mori should be kicked out of holofes. This entire comment chain is about how cover has no set plan for yabs and responds entirely differently based on how panicked they feel in each situation, which is NOT the basis of a PR strategy. A working PR strategy for talents still allows room for nuance but it's astoundingly clear from Cover's communications with both Mori and Rushia that they're flyign by the seat of their pants. This is a specific comment chain in which bringing up Mori vs. Rushia is about COVER'S RESPONSE and not dick measuring the size of their yabs.

>>18456418
>Cover pressures talent to do pandering and other weird stuff
>She ends up going along from pressure. It all backfires and blows up in her face. >Cover walks away leaving her for the wolves.
And you guys told me Cover cared about their talent.

>>18461775
>Duh, GFE is make-believe
This is the point. By fucking up her discord she has damaged the make believe aspect. This hurts nearly all of her colleagues to various degrees now schizos are picturing their oshi getting gangbanged everynight. Nothing they say is going to be taken seriously.
Her second major fuckup was getting caught with a biggish celebrity. this brought in mainstream attention to gfe and it will be stick to beat all vtubers by mainstream press going forward.
She doesnt owe fandead much of an apology but her colleagues deserve a big one

>poor health cause she got caught and is now sad
Reminder that this whole drama would be over by now if she either apologized for lying to her fans and hope they forgive her, most of them would, or if it really is a misunderstanding then vehemently and loudly deny it. An innocent person doesn't stay silent when they're accused of something defamatory, they get angry and fight back

Now that she fucked both of those options up, she either man's up, or if she can't deal with the backlash then she should just graduate and stop relying on her schizo fanbase to keep her alive, its clearly not healthy

>>18463425
Considering only Rushia and Lamy actually went in hard for GFE gachikoi stuff, that is 2 (two) out of over 50 members, I don't get the impression Cover really pushes it much. Sure maybe they suggest doing voice packs or phone alarm greetings or whatever but I don't think they actively steer the talents towards trying to groom the audience into being pretend wives for the members, that is not the usual routine at all.

>>18459781
>the die hard fans have forgiven her
Just more proof that they truly are pathetic.

>>18463425
Fancucks believe Rushia doesnt cares about a paycheck and she loves them.

Yeah, and Rushia doesnt get dicked by any dude with a moderate amount of clout or perceived social hierarchy

>>18463425
>cover pressures talent
>source: my ass
What else does you ass say, oh wise anon?

>>18461069
Schizo niggers should take their meds

>>18459590
Mori loves the fans who enable her bullshit. It's what I finally realized almost 10 months after her debut because I'm a fucking idiot who lives and dies by the sunken cost fallacy.

>>18456787
Westerners already expect all that from their women.

>>18461814
She's doing a project for cover

>>18456418
>EOPs reacting as if the tweet is about holofes
pretty illustrative of the whole western reaction to the drama

>>18463760
Doesn't she have a contract with the insects besides that? Pretty sure she's on an even worse position than Ina at the beginning.

>>18456465
FPBP

>>18463959
All i know about Ina is that she does FGO work and people thought she was the one who designed that shitty new valentines servant.

>>18464035
seethe

>>18463511
>An innocent person doesn't stay silent when they're accused of something defamatory, they get angry and fight back
You're retarded. Someone who is guilty also gets angry and fights back because getting accused of something they know they're guilty of strikes a nerve in them (see Mori).
Someone who's innocent doesn't have to be silent, they can address the rumors/slander or whatever in a completely calm, rational manner...and that's what they would do if they're innocent. After all, if they're innocent they have nothing to be angry about, right?

>>18464151
>seething about ina and sana doing project work
We're supposed to be talking about mii-chan

>>18456465
This is why idol culture is cancer. Apologize for what? Being a fucking human being? Relationships are normal and you're in the wrong for trying to forbid her from having them.

>>18463536
yeah those 2 go the hardest but there is an element of gfe in most of them Many insist they are single( marine,flare, suisei as examples), alot of them sell dakis, oppai mousepads etc and you just need to look at all the valentines streams yesterday. I'm not saying this morally terrible but they all play it up.
By contrast do you see any male streamers making valentines chocolate for there audience?

>>18464193
cool so all the holos in a relationship can tell us and we are all cool

>>18464193
obvious troll is obvious. Try harder next time.

>>18464318
No? Their relationships status is none of your fucking buisness

>>18464222
In Japan the girl gives the chocolate.

>>18456547
>a twink
>boyfriend

>>18456465
Fpbp
I kneel

>>18463595
please take a shower

>>18464193
Imagine being that much of a cuck who supports people who do girlfriend experience entertainment while lying and disrespecting their fans.
Yikes.

>>18464587
please go outside

>>18464363
if its no big deal they should just tell us. I cant think of a monetary reason they would keep it a secret or lie about it

>>18464385
nigga looks like the kind of alien that comes to earth to get his ass probed

>>18456418
>Due to poor health, Uruha Rushia, who was scheduled to perform at the event, has decided to withdraw

I guess sucking dick really did it to her, huh?

>>18461420
>we
shut up, baitfag. you speak only for yourself

>>18464717
>Go do X
Concession accepted.

>>18463536
What's so GFE about Lamy anyway? I honestly don't see her like that yet people keep repeating it left and right, probably not having seen much of her either.

>>18464161
>someone who is guilty also gets angry and fights back because getting accused of something they know they're guilty of strikes a nerve in them (see Mori)
That's not anger. Mori wasn't angry that she got accused, she was scared that she'd get in trouble. One easy tell is her passive aggressive attitude, you don't do that when you're innocent and defending yourself, instead you'll be very matter of fact so your words don't get misused any further

>if they're innocent they have nothing to be angry about
There's a difference between a petty lie about them just to get a reaction and slander that can possibly damage their reputation and livelihood. Seeing how this incident caused a huge uproar it is very much the kind of situation where she needs to defend herself very passionately if she's innocent, otherwise its the perceived evidence against her vs her silence

>>18460695
If this is how Rushia actually is behind her member streams then she is a broken person. Anyone begging someone else to trust them is not a trustworthy person and has something to hide.

>>18464875
please take a shower

>>18465085
>Go do X
Concession accepted

>>18462004
>you´ll find me on the biggest hugbox of /vt/!

>>18465101
please get some fresh air

>>18464991
If anything, Cover is probably encouraging Rushia to silently lawyer up in the background. Or at least if they're smart, they should.
>Rushia is distressed and can't do her job
>Probably goes after leakers or people giving out falsehoods
>Wins case and perpetrators get in trouble
>Big welcome comeback, life goes on since fans cant live without their oshi

>>18465153
>Go do X
Concession accepted

>>18465441
>if they're smart
lol
lmao

>>18465441
What leak?
The information comes from her, her stream, her twitter, mafumafu, his twitter and people in direct contact with them. If korekore info is real, he even asked if he could show it.
Was there any leak?

>>18465441
>>Wins case and perpetrators get in trouble
I highly doubt she wins if the defamation is only about her being in a relationship. I know nothing of japanese law but in US being a public figure means they would have to meet actual malice. Also who would she go after? The source of the rumour was her own failed opsec. How does she get around that in court. Any anons know japanese defamation law?

>>18464875
>>18465101
>>18465474
3 times a loser. YIKES

>>18466315
Get some self awareness you stupid troon

>>18456465
Based

>>18456465
FPBP

>>18461737
Yeah women never do anything wrong right y'all fr fr no cap

>>18467778
Well, if some lonely bitch fucks a giggolo and catches feelings she's also to blame, if that helps any.

>>18456879
I would suck his dick

>>18464193
kill yourself cuck normalfaggot

>>18466315
>it's clapping to itself for saying meaningless phrases
major fucking cringe

>>18465827
It's Rushia paypigs coping. You know, the EOP faggots who don't (and can't) actually watch her streams but still tossed money at her and are now seething?

>>18465441
>Sue thousands of people and news sites
Is that you Barbra Streisand?