/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>18438681
uoh?

>>18438752
UOH

https://youtu.be/87HyU_uDXi4
https://youtu.be/G5sb0JvL9lo
https://youtu.be/Ni0FV0g3E0Q
https://youtu.be/stmZAThUl64
Go Moona Go.

>>18438681

>>18437536
What does that come out to, $wise?

>>18438815
Remember some anon trying to pit Moona's new song against Finana's song yesterday?
kek.

>>18438815
>4streams
Man... she really cope hard with not having a 3D concert huh

>>18438948
What are you even on about?

Update from last time I checked (yesterday):
>200k more views
>9000 new comments
>3k more likes
I think Rushia's return stream is going to get HUGE numbers.

>>18439272
Did her music also got a boost?

>>18438936
Give us the numbers at least, fag

>>18438936
Fuck off. We know the Nijiwhores are pathetic leeches who look for any opportunity to leech. Somebody needs to tell them to stay the fuck away from my Holos.

>>18439347
Just a small one, nothing big.

HoloEN having 25k people watching while it's 3 AM in New York is pretty fucking nuts.

>>18438681
HoloEN recline countdown lezzzgooo!!!

>>18439272
Covering Dislike really makes the comment go wild kek

>>18439347
Her goodbye sengen one has a lot of anti comments. Check it out.

>>18439272
min 50K and i bet it's gonna be 100k stream

>>18439871
kek

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1493495296059346944
Rushia's appearance on Gariben V has been cancelled.

>>18439272
What if her comeback stream is the holo concert?

>>18440014
They can't find a VA replacement in time.

>>18440052
Yeah, Kanata is sick.

>>18440052
Reona is too expensive

>>18438898
$91,182

>>18437536
How did you get these numbers? I thought they patched out the exploit.

Mumei finally dropped to 16k.

>>18439871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hckdpe5eJ4
I bet it's because of this.

>>18440228
Don't ask for the specifics, or else it'll get patched too. Sufficie to say, sloppy work leaves many avenues.

>>18440271
Nice tag usage.

>>18440271
>based anti-idol fan does a great remix celebrating mafumafu and rushia's relationship
>idolfag incels sperg out and threaten to kill russia because their masculinity feels threatened
Every fucking time

>>18440347
Don't forget Mafumafu's fujoshi army.

>>18440271
That views to sub count is impressive.

Is >1K normal for Roberu or is he inclining?

>>18440391
Happens all the time in meme videos, no one is there for the channel, just that one video.

>>18440391
Not really. Lots channels with random have that ratio.

>>18440491
Rushia should hire this guy for mixing, he is good.

>>18440423
His median is around 1k.

>>18440347
>Assuming it's idolfags and not the horde of dramafags and general antis that love to stir shit up whenever anything happens
I don't doubt there are some, but you're delusional if you think the majority of those leaving negative comments actually watch her regularly.

>>18440347

>>18440423
He gets 1k pretty often

>>18440347
>>18440545
>idolfags

>>18440545
Exactly, in terms of positive reactions and support, Rushia (and mafumafu) have received plenty (171k likes/ 203k likes on their first tweets since the yab).
Most of the negative reactions are from dramafags/ antis /normies who just want to kick someone when they're down, but they're irrelevant since they'll move to the next drama as soon as it happens.

https://twitter.com/imasml_theater/status/1493496051579305985
Another im@s sponsorship

>>18440347
>>18440545
>idolfags
you mean nijiniggers.

>>18440757
The producer sent the project to Laplace himself, this is why you should always suck up to games.

>>18440738
>Dont forget about us to anon

>>18440850
Those fucks better add some Holo songs.

>anons seething all thread about how Kronii should end to funnel to Mumei
>Mumei ends up funneling to Kronii to get her back to 9k at 12:30 am PST/ 3:30 am EST
KEK

>>18440757
>meanwhile
Roberu been streaming it for years and still no sponsorship

>>18440271
>That last picture in the song
LMAO

>>18441126
https://youtu.be/zadL5aYO3Hg

>>18441179
fucking kek good catch anon

>https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1493499914793664513
>losing her hearing
>lost her smell
>lost her taste

this poor poor angel

>>18441417
Cursed by God.

>>18441417
I think she qualifies for the Disabled EN Daily Tallies.

>entire nijien branch gets a measly 23k
>nijis declare victory over holoEN
The retardation during NA hours is something else

>>18441536
15 nijis= 2 holos

>>18441536
Nijiniggers and their small dog syndrome...

>>18441536
Show me the 25k then faggot?
You can't because you're all retards who have to add viewers from separate streams that have nothing to do with each other just to "win"

>>18441648
Lol

>>18441648
I'm not talking about medal victory, dumbass, that shit hardly matters even when it gets won by holo 9/10 times in both branches

>>18441494
Fuck you anon! Im almost choke on cola! Fucken KEK

>>18441417
The punishment for The Fallen

>>18441536
Honestly I expected more given it's fucking BRANCH collab. What frustrates me is HoloEN not collabing. Mum, Irys , Bae and Ame gave kino karaoke streams. So I am happy as a holofag numbers aside.

>>18441921
They should of done an impromptu relay

Why did kronii privated the stream?

>>18442038
"She" accidently turned off the voice changer

>>18441536
It's weird that their biggest stream of Valentine's day is a full collab with male and female nijien interacting together

>>18442184
I mean nothing scream valentine more than a good ol' orgy

>>18441536
its more than what i was expecting given the timeslot. but i'll want to see the numbers carry forward and not just disappear like what happened with pomu's MGS

So.. What is contender for today's gold /#/ bros?

Noooooooooo my pink dog. Late frame with Laplace in 20 min, this is not looking good.

/#/ is declining

>>18442288
There is nothing interesting on Holo side. Probably wait later for more streams announced
I don't know about Niji side

>>18442288
Kuzuha. Finals for CRCup. This is basically locked for gold i think. Correct me if i'm wrong

>>18442288
Gura gorilla karaoke

>>18442365
Wait cr cup is not done?

>>18438936
>Nijileech latches instantly
fanbase really reflects their oshi

>>18442365
Timetravelchama?

>>18442038
????
Anon it's right there.

>Matsuri 7k with apex
Not bad

>>18440303
Lol, fucking 5chan. They got a translation of how it is measured and it was all over the web. Their imagine boards really do have much more influence and spread than ours.

>>18442568
Her solo apex does well for her. Apex was never the problem. It was just everything around it for her.

>>18442560
It was private for like 20 minutes

>>18442649
Yes. The spamming of it, the canceling of other streams just for her to spam MORE APEX, etc..

>>18441536
It's a good showing for NijiEN. It would be good even for NijiJP who don't often get these numbers for collabs outside of their main channel. And that's it.

>>18442568
she's master

>>18442676
Oh. Well, I guess she must've edited something out then.

>>18442649
>>18442683
it does well now but not long ago she would get like 3k unless it was gacha.
She is slowly recovering her viewer base over the past 3 months.

>>18442568
She's honestly a much better player nowadays despite people memeing about her, still weaker than aqua but probably better than towa.

Gura ASMR 200k get, does anyone remember when she hit 200k with that 2021 clip compilation?

5k for my Moona.

>>18442462
>>18442409
I haven't had any sleep and I don,'t watch niji. But I know there's a cup and they are winning.

>>18442779
Her fanbase probably seen every clip uploaded.

Go Pink Dog, get 10k before Laplace starts, or else it's too late.

Gura's duolingo VOD on its way to 1.7 million. 2 weeks ago it was 1.5
Just a reminder this stream had 18k peak ccv

Almost 180k
https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1493216366731853831

>>18441417
Damn... she got triple handicap now. T_T

>>18442761
She is better than Towa, Matsuri puts much more effort in but most of it is offstream.
This last season Matsuri put in really long 10 plus hour sessions to reach master again while Towa ranked to diamond 3 for the first time and called it a day.

>>18442987
Work smarter, not harder.

KiarAme's cover did better than I expected

>>18441417
infected, expected

>>18443015
>towa
>smarter
lmao

man i hadnt kept tabs on the Luxiem guys for since their early weeks, their fucking SCs are monstrous how much fujo pandering do their streams consist of

I actually didn't realize fauna's asmr vod is doing very well. I remembered her previous vod views end around 100k after a day but it is now 300k after 8 days. The first ku100 stream was around 300k after one week and grew to 460k now.

>>18442794
He got 2nd 2 days ago. It's over.

Wait, so Mumei could have get 20k if kronii didn't overlap her?

>>18443174
ASMRs unlike actual streams tend to actually have people go back to them, her first Ku100 stream i honestly listened to about 3 or 4 times myself

>>18443174
ASMR is evergreen content.

>>18441417
Kanata a saint seiya protag

koyorin 10k

Koyori 10k...

>>18443160
Combo of milestone streams and a lot of pandering. It brings the money, I withhold personal judgement because that's not what the thread is about.

>>18443196
Probably, don't forget Ame.

>>18443174
Like the others said, ASMRs have very long legs.
All of Noel's best VODs are ASMRs and some of Rushia's ASMRs got to 1 mil in like 3 weeks, which is nuts.

Unironically tho, the one thing that would make Fauna's current ASMRs get better numbers is less new ASMRs from her.
She has so many that it's giving her listeners too many options and spreading the views around too much.

>>18442794
He got silver in his tourney despite getting gold in the # thread. Mel didn't stream that day

>>18443204
fuck off

Koyori seems pretty similar to Botan in that she seems to be between the 9k - 15k range no matter what.

/#/ is declining.

So is moona's 5k going to get counted as part of en gold or what?

>>18443396
All 4 of HoloX are around 10k, mid tier Holos. Maybe except for Laplus who could get up to 16-20k.

>>18443415
hey man

>>18443396
She rarely gets above 10k when there are overlaps. But she is a strong waiting room.

>>18443446
ID Gold

does Anya and Petra's fanbase get along?

>>18443446
Moona getting 5k without a tournament buff is quite good.

>>18443396
koyori is a weird case, her viewership varies wildly, like her dqm streams do like absolute garbage, like 5k avg, her asakoyo is pretty consistent 7-8k at this point, her ark can go from 8 to 13k. she really suffers a lot from overlaps and her vods do pretty garbage cause of how much she streams, so her audience tends to just catch the next stream instead of replaying vods.

>>18443446
Ame showed up, so en list.

Lui's shill stream is going to get fucked, overlapping with 2 gen mates.

>>18443396
It's ASEAN GOLD!

>>18438936
Yikes, Fish? More like Leech.

>>18443631
how does that heaven burns shit performed for other holos, how much of a debuff is it

I just checked today's numbers and
>Ame unarchived karaoke 10k
What the fuck, what went wrong? I tuned in for a bit but she sang same songs she always sings and was doing even worse than usual on them.

*FINAL HOLOLIVE EN VALENTINES DAY THEMED STREAMS TALLY*

Here it goes
>18,132: Mumei (Valentine's Day Songs!)
>15,466: IRyS (Valentine's Drive Date)
>13,228: Baelz (LOVE SONGS EDITION!)
>11,298: Mori (Just Mori)
>10,311: Baelz (SLEEPY GIRLFRIEND ROLEPLAY)
>10,090: Amelia (Singin' from the HEART)
>9,547: Fauna (Singing (softly?) with MAXIMUM sensitivity mic Happy Valentine's Day!)
>8,020: Amelia (Chu Chu)
>6,570: Kiara (Cards for my BELOVED ONES)
>6,004: Mumei (I'll Make You A Card)
>5,970: Ina (Love is in the Air Because They're Birds)
>5,423: Kiara (CHUNKY CHOCOLATE COOKIES!!!!)
>4,686: Baelz (SLEEPY BOYFRIEND ROLEPLAY)

>>18443396
Nah, you’re overestimating Pink dog, she’s a 6-10k at most and get’s buffed when there are no overlaps because she IS the “Waiting Room” especially with how long and much she streams

>>18438936
Fucking leeches I tell you.

>>18443744
where da niji girl valentines streams at

>>18443744
>Holo males losing

>>18443737
>what went wrong?
Are you saying she overperformed or under?
Ame didn't reach 10k with her last 2 karaokes with no overlap and she got to 10k today overlapping with Kronii who had 11k.
Crawled right pass the 10k mark with her last song after 2.5 hours.

>>18443744
there's something really funny about first and last

>>18443737
Amelia Karaokes have always been like 7-10k range for awhile now her last impressive karaoke numbers are ones with 3D gimmicks and she hasnt done one of those in awhile and even then the novelty of those has worn a bit so they arent nearly as much of a buff anymore

>>18443744
>10,311: Baelz (SLEEPY GIRLFRIEND ROLEPLAY)
>4,686: Baelz (SLEEPY BOYFRIEND ROLEPLAY)

Fucking based

Broooooo moona got a brother within her fanbase!!

>>18443966
MALE HATE

>>18443809
That 10k was brought to you by Mumei.

>>18443731
It's neutral, mostly affected by overlaps. They change the game section after every 4-5 holos, so they do different things.

>>18443973
lmao

>>18443990
AND HE IS A BURGER!!!

>>18443551
I suspect she has lowish numbers because she streams so fucking much, its actually hard to keep up with her schedule.
12+ streams each week regularly, sometimes even more, she is an absolute monster.

Been reading through the past few threads since I woke up and with how much this one fag keeps hyping up Elden Ring I expect at least 50k CCV minimum every stream, even for low tier channels. Otherwise I'm going to laugh in his face for the rest of this thread's lifetime.

>>18444145
Like all failed schizos, he'll just pretend that he never posted about it.

>>18444145
I hope hololive gets sponsored to play it.

>>18443744
>Top 3 are all Council + IRyS
What the fuck happened to Myth? Other than Gura is Council legit stronger than Myth?

>>18444145
i hope elden ring is bad just to shit on elden ring schizo

>>18444100
It's not hard to keep up, she always streams regularly at the same timings. She is just too common and suffers from the opposite of the Ayame buff.

>>18444145
Yeah they told me no man's sky was going to be amazing

>>18444227
It'll probably be alright, it's hard to get hyped about any new games given the current state of the gaming industry. I refuse to buy into any new game hype after all the shit I've seen in the past few years.

>>18443744
kys

>>18444268
Its hard to keep up in that its hard to have the time to watch it all, not that its hard to know the schedule.
She rivals Watame and Kiara for hours streamed per month.

Moona has more English songs that Ame, Kiara, Ina, Bae and Gura combined.

HOLY SHIT MOONA JUST MOGGED ALL EN ORISONG!!

>>18444364
didn't she beat watame for like over 40 hours last month or something like that

>>18444407
I-I kneel

>>18444436
I think so.
I told you she is a monster.

>>18444194
>FromSoft and Hololive
https://streamable.com/gm7921

>>18444407
Good grief, why is HoloEN like this?
Its really only Mori that bothers to do full EN songs. The rest either have mixed or are full JP.

I hope this Orisong blows up in popularity, it's too fuckin good.

>koyo starts gacha
>viewers spike
why are nips like this

>>18444542
The MV just fucken MOGGED all holo recent orisongs. Moonfags i kneel to your oshi

huh, Okayu didn't get on the final tally yesterday?

>>18444407
Sounds like one of LoL songs

>>18444629
Yeah she just said she was inspired by LoL's MVs

>>18444583
yesterday, like the whole 3 hours after prime time were packed as hell, and a ton of holos were doing asmr/mems as well, she just got overlapped
however it's an asmr vod so it'll grow with time

>>18444629
It's legit a LoL World's song.
Even down to the tryhard, edgy MV.
I love it.

>>18444542
Sasuga top 1 of HoloID

>>18444583
Nope.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/35ttVJ2Ouzk

So.. This is the power of #1 ID Vtuber
Moona I kneel

>>18444551
>why are nips like this
Why this thread is Trying to push that is only nips who love gacha? Look at ame csg.

>>18444575
Too bad it's on a HoloID, otherwise its rise to 1M will be really fast

Oh fuck,no Holo top hitter will stream tonight,right?
NIJIEN GOLD

>>18444801
Hopefully some members talk about it on stream.

> wake up
> nijiENfags getting uppity
have you retards forgotten about what happened during the first 3 waves?

> Lazulight with insane hype, all 3 get their own niche audiences
> Obsydia has one girl who gets her own audience, rest just cannibalize existing one (Lazulight)
> Ethyria doesn't have ANY standouts, gets very few new fans, mostly cannibalize the existing Lazulight fanbase.
The same shit is going to happen to Luxiem once the next two waves come out.

>>18444796
Can someone get a better quality picture with this lyrics? >>18444557 I feel this one can be used quite often in this thread, especially if this song actually takes off

>>18444444

>>18444526
I think the problem with EN orison or holoEN side for music is they don't really have connection with music producer, COVER only has connection to JP music producers and the result is those orison

>>18444854
>some members
Yeah some homostar randos will
Else probably those unity holo like Koyo on her asakoyo, kiara, baelz, and the rest of ID

>>18444916
Maybe pekora, Subaru or Gura.

>>18444873
The fuck is the quality on that image? This shit goes up to 4k FFS, there is NO excuse for it to be so damned blurry!

>>18444436
>>18444517
>Koyori 163.4
>Lamy 149.3
>Watame 129.3
Very strong hours, but Koyori is definitely benefiting from having less going on at the moment due to vastly fewer recordings and no 3rd fes prep. It'll be interesting to see if she can keep this pace longer than half a year.

>>18443775
*FINAL NIJISANJI EN VALENTINES DAY THEMED STREAMS TALLY*

Here it goes
>13,480: Mysta (Mysta's Cute Brat Boy Valentines Date)
>10,639: Vox (Valentine's Day with Vox)
>9,855: Luca ("Lonely lady, Shall me dance?" EAT ICE CREAM CAKE WITH ME)
>3,298: Petra (love songs for valentine's day)
>3,240: Pomu (choose your own adventure)
>2,999: Reimu (Let's sing with our hearts)
>2,459: Nina (DIY LUXIEM VALENTINE'S CARDS)
>2,244: Elira (sweet talking together)
>2,018: Rosemi (I BAKE YOU VALENTINES SWEETS ROSEMI COOKING)
>1,773: Nina (A Date With Nina Kosaka)

>>18444983
This is hella top heavy...

>>18444983
Those are some gay ass stream names.

>>18444983
My respect goes out to Ike and Shu for not giving in to money, well Ike already got $7k at the stroke of midnight, but he didn't do valentine streams to milk

>>18444983
>Ike and Shu didn't do Vday date streams
hmmmmmmmmmm

>>18444407
>>18444575
Spamming and samefagging on topics doesn't make it true. This is numbers, you dumb cunt.

>>18444983
manjisanji...

Mumei is going to end up as the strongest council who eats all the other council members.

EN gold status?

>>18445111
kys

>>18445111
In a wheelchair.

>>18440347
>idolfag incels
god I forget how easy it is to fool retarded Americans with falseflags

>>18444407
>>18444575
Risu's orisong and MV are better. Fuck off Moonaniggers.

>>18444798
She got high viewers but she got shit for supers, only $1.1k over the entire stream which is pathetic for a gacha stream.

>>18444978
She has done a similar level of activity for years pre-hololive.

KRONII ORISONG MOGGED
WAIT SCRATCH THAT EN ORISONG MOGGED, JP NOT NAMED SUISEI AND TOWA MOGGED
VSINGER WHO? KEK GIVE THOSE MONEY AND SUPPORT TO MOONA INSTEAD OF IRYS

>>18445100
She should make those into emotes on her channel.

>>18444873

are moonafags always this annoying

>>18445135
Risu sounds more like a nier song, I didn't like moona all that much on her new song since it sounds like a LoL song which it is

>>18444901
The one who made this Moona's orisong is someone from Middle East.
>Zsundere, also known as ZSunder, is a 17-year old music producer, singer-songwriter born in the Philippines and is currently based in the Middle East.
Then again it could be her personal connection.

>>18445161
Please call them African-Americans.

>>18443744
>>18444983
>The worst HoloEN valentine stream is still better than the best female NijiEN stream
ManjiEN indeed

How I wished Gura and Kronii made a valentine's stream... But Kronii was cleaning the house...

>>18445033
Yea. Ike appears to have captured some of the errant JP audience from his SC amounts, which means he's the most likely to cannibalize from the JP branch. Shu does his best, but he's playing on hard mode by streaming more in NA times.

>>18445161
Whenever she does music yeah. Rest of the time they go back in their autism bunker.

>>18445220
just showing hierarchy hasnt changed, nijiENs best was always below holoENs worst before Luxiem

>>18445138
Unless it was the same voice and the same level of off-stream activity that doesn't matter.

>>18445133
I mean, anyone with half a fucking brain should be able to spot dramafags at this point, you'd think with the amount of them that pop up on the board, but then again we're constantly getting a fuckton of tourists too, so....

>>18442751
She's been reintegrating back into the box since her December relay stream (when she loudly proclaimed "I love hololive" and went all in on boxfags).
She's also been in multiple collabs with Gen6 and other holos, getting more exposure to their relatively new audience.
Now all she has to do is to keep her menhera in check and opsec secure.

>>18445224
Didn't Gura have a valentine's day member stream?

Laplus really lost most of gachis, her 700k stream barely got 100k yen so far.

Once again, we might be underestimating how much Holos make if Moona can afford a fully animated MV for an orisong despite middling SC numbers.
I don't think HoloID even gets that many sponsorships and her VOD revenue isn't insane either.
She's also not Reine-level loaded.

>All holo stream are below NijiEN stream rn now

>>18445220
it's literally gonna mirror JP at this rate, nijien is gonna get a man blackhole that sucks up all the viewers, nijis will get wins sometimes with events or their blackhole streaming but holos will still be stronger individually

>>18445220
Actually no, I forgot one when I did the EN list because it was so low and I didn't think I would have to scroll that far down for HoloEN

>2,478: Sana (V-v-valentines cards?!)

>>18445224
That stream is actually Kronii's longest stream length too, and that's without even reading superchats

>>18445288
Yeah but we can't numberfag that

>>18445277
Yea. Fortunately the event earlier doesn't appear to have had any real effect after ZA HANDO, and it appears to have gone hush hush after legal shit got involved.

>>18443446
nah we're making a separate list comprised of only Indonesian vtubers where she will be first.
oh wait, we're not nijiENfags.

>>18445299
Cover helps pay for orisongs

>>18445299
>She's also not Reine-level loaded
But she is friend with reine, and may or may not accepted to be reine slave in exchange for MV fund

>>18445324
Sana... Why...

>>18444901
Anon, they all have all the right and freedom on their own orisong. If it's shit, it means they either dont give a shit and give the producers free reign or their taste just shit

>>18445292
Her Gachis know she doesn't read them, so they just member her and leave it at that. Given that we publicly know she got 7k+ members but revealed that she has 'at least double what we think she has' when she got demonetized, she likely has 10k+ members ez.

>>18445348
Moona already paid by sleeping over with reine and letting her molest.

>>18443744
> genderbend stream
> (SLEEPY BOYFRIEND ROLEPLAY)
they're really testing the waters with for what they want to do with HoloStarsEN huh...
fuck I hope they don't go the Luxiem route, I want some brochuubas not faggots.

>>18445306
kek

>>18445306
It might even medal.
Pekora is sick and it doesn't seem like there's any interesting streams going on tonight.

>>18444983
>2,459: Nina (DIY LUXIEM VALENTINE'S CARDS)
>Valentine
The fuck was she thinking?

>>18445292
it's because she says she wants them but doesn't really do the things you need to do traditionally to get them

>>18445389
Don't worry, Cover is more classy then nijisanji.

>>18444983
So what is nijisanji doing wrong with female talent? How can you be a vtubing company and not get cute anime girls right?

>>18445421
I thought she goes the Gura/Ina route for SC but no?

>>18445421
Iroha is already at 100k in her waiting room for her 500k subs...

>>18443744
Myth...

>>18445299
>fully animated
It's not.
Also she goes for talent that isn't in Japan, so it lowers costs.

>>18445426
They get cute anime girls, they just overshadowed by males.

>>18445415
She was leeching of the males before they debut.

>>18444983
>that fuckling powergap between Luca and Petra

>>18445541
You can squeeze one or two more gens in there.

>>18445299
Arent holos got one free wish for their biethday? This could be hers

>>18445566
the free wish is for the 1M subscribers milestone

>>18445565
I wonder if they had people who were considered at higher rounds in the first nijimale auditions on call after seeing how well Luxiem did for easy access to more waves.

>>18445566
>>18445601
She's wishing for 3d debut.

>>18445566
>birthday
1M subs.

Holobros....
NijiEN might get gold today...

>>18445483
>Council + IRyS Valentine's Average (including the Sana stream posted later)
9,981
>Myth Valentine's Average
7,895

>>18445299
You vastly underestimate how much they make.
Esp for ID, 2k members alone would mean she makes more than most doctors with 10-15 years experience in the country, and that isnt counting supers/streamlabs/ad revenue.

>>18444542
Peko shilled it earlier as an apology to not be able to shows up on her tatsu, so it'll probably get big numbers

>>18445616
Guess we will see in like two months.

>26k gold
Peko, miko, marine, subaru, aqua pls stream…

>>18445601
>>18445621
Ah now that you mentioned it, yeah it was 1mil sub and it was pekora who said it

>>18445677
did Pekora end up using the wish to get her mama on stream? or does she still have it?

>>18445623
you mean in the retard olympics race? the king has gold currently

Time waster level 1:
>uses 4chan
Time waster level 2:
>watches vtubers
Time waster level 3, maximum super saiyan waster:
>discussing numbers of vtubers on 4chan

>>18445623
Funnily enough, they won't.
Gold right now is Kuzuha's 1am Apex stream where he got 26k.
There's barely any HoloJP frames up so is everyone just taking a break today?

>>18445135
Based and Squirrelpilled. Risu's song is a fucking masterpiece yet Moonaniggers won't listen to it.

>>18445677
One of those free wish was Miko's cafe. I don't know what's the other Holo wishes, I only know that Suisei still hasn't used hers.

Damn, holokeks are still seething after holoshit got raped by niji. That a sight I like to see, please continue.

>>18445733
jelly?

>>18445426
A combination of, either through negligence or designed effort, turning a lot of the nijigirls into accessories for the men while at the same time comes along the rise of hololive that specialises in cute girls only so a lot of the audience that just want cute girls move over. Some nijigirls like mito have basically never been reduced in importance in service to another and she's maintained one of the most consistent careers in vtubing because of it.

>>18445754
She used it to kill INNK

>>18445671
No Peko Miko Marine tonight
FreeNijiGold

>>18445634
Damn, if you remove Gura than Council + IRyS is legit stronger than Myth. That shit is crazy.

>>18445671
Pekora is out today because she got too drunk yesterday

>>18445299
She just said she had money problems due to tax recently..... She probably overshoot her budget.

>>18445788
because you are using ccv average

The issue is the council never streams. So their average is higher

Sorry, today is reserved for the delayed Valentine's day sex for the Holos.

>>18445634
Oh no no no delete this

>>18445389
Tbh I hope Cover should focus on female talents instead trying to taking part in male chubba market. They clearly don't have a good hand when it comes to male. Holostar was a failed attempt back in the day when they tried to copy Manjisanji. They better not repeat the same mistake again.

>>18445748
Hololive is really dying.

>>18445426
Overlapping viewerpool, not targeting a specific demographic. It really start to hurt the girls by Erythia. Most of the girls are They'll encounter the same problem with future male waves if NijiEN repeats the Luxiem formula.

>>18445812
Council had more Valentines streams you dolt

>>18445812
It cancels out because Myth also never streams

>>18445824
I'm sure they're surprised at Luxiem's success and want to gauge the market before making any moves. Which might be why council is doing genderbend streams, and Holostars3 was finally announced (was there even an audition for this btw? if not, are they all scouted talents?).

>>18439272
>Most of the commenters dissing fandeads and calling themselves the true fans arent even membered

>>18445812
>>18445853
The absolute state

>>18445849
Council has almost no streams, so when they stream all their fans tune in. Myth has more streams, so their fans are less likely to watch every single video. More content = less viewers per content

>>18445824
Just open HoloES or HoloKR yagoo

>>18445865
Auditions are always open.

>>18445865
i find this kind of weird, after it happened twice (jp, en), wouldn't you want to strengthen the fact holo is the top tier for female chuubas and just let nijis take the fags instead of trying to dilute your claim

>>18445887
Basically that, yeah. Like the pink dog and Watame punch a bit higher than their CCV would suggest, but it's too hard to measure the effect of that sort thing so people don't really bother.

>>18445754
Miko = cafe
Okayu = streak house
FBK, Coco = costume
Pekora = not pick a wish yet
all other members are 3D lives

>>18445865
Do you really believe cover is retarded enough to look at a couple of joke council genderbend streams to judge the male chuuba market? Do you also think cover fucked up by not debuting loads more homostars because hologirls had successful and popular genderbend streams?

>>18445389
StarsEN would have to go the brotuber route as NijiEN has already taken the fujo market. All that's left is finding how to make males appealing during NA hours and brotubers.

Holos, will the only stream in the hottest prime time slot be Pokemon...

Just quickly looked through all posts in this thread and can pretty much confirm that 99% of holokeks are just dumb children. That explains a lot, you know.

>>18445993
What where Gura's 3 wishes?

Miko = cafe
Okayu = steak house
FBK, Coco = costume
Pekora = not pick a wish yet
all other members are 3D lives

>Manjisanji Valentine's Average
11,324
>NijiEN Girls Valentine's Average
2,575

>>18445824
Stars was a fail project because
1. It was not cover's nor hololive's BUT a totally side project funded by yagoo's own pocket
2. Because of that, the line between them and the girls are vague, whether they should integrate or totally separate. If it was the later, naming them HOLOstars was a mistake.
3. If they were meant to integrate from the get go, they should've made shit clear as to accept the backlash early on and tank it like niji did
4. It's too late to make starsEN as they'll also overshadowed by the girls. Holo = Girl/Idols is their brand on the general public's perception.

>>18446016
Are they all in PR meeting or something?

Chink vs gook

>>18445426
Nothing. VShojo was already established on Twitch and Hololive on YouTube. All EN YT girls have an uphill battle. Females were already hotly contested, it is a miracle the girls did as well as they did. The men aren't contested so they exploded.

>>18446036
Sana is lower than the NijiEN average...

>>18445865
i swear the amount of people who bring up starsEN who do not look at the JP side at all.
JPstars are getting a new gen at some point this year, this will be the first new addition to stars since before the initial holoboom. if cover is going to gauge interest in starsEN they will use this

>>18445748
After the absolute bloodfest yesterday I wouldn't be surprised

>>18446036
That quite funny how an average nijien males easily spin Gura (strongest HoloEN member) on their cocks in terms of success.

>>18446055
There has been a demand among western fans for StarsEN for a while. These people clamoring for StarsEN don't seem interested in Luxiem at all, they want StarsEN. I still think there is a market for males in the west and since Luxiem didn't capture that market its ripe for the picking for StarsEN. They just need to be careful about how they handle them.

Fujo baiting will fail and "HoloEN but male" will also fail.

>>18446032
I thought the prisoner costume was her wish?

>>18446112
in terms of what?

>>18446126
the prisoner outfit was commisioned

>>18446131
Sucking dick.

>>18446112
You are retarded

>>18445824
The only reason to have StarsEN, is to get niches that are impossible to find from women.

>>18445997
it will give them a general idea of the type of male content holo audience would be willing to watch.
I'm not saying they HAVE plans for StarsEN mind you, but not doing at least some research into the field to check viability would be stupid.

>>18446154
after the members stream she'll give them a run for their money

>>18446068
A bunch are ill, some are recording like Suzy and twap, the early gens are basically missing

>>18446098
I wonder if their gen3 teaser was just a teaser for not yet assembled gen and they only started looking for members after they announced the indefinite auditions?

>>18446119
>There has been a demand among western fans for StarsEN for a while
Has there really, though?

>>18446202
Clearly

>>18446119
The next NijiEN male wave will absolutely capture NA market. They are already getting known more already so it's only a matter of time.

>>18446197
its 4th gen. also since they didn't give an exact date that might be the case but since they did specify 2022 i could see them having them all set up and just waiting for a good time to debut. i'd say maybe a month after holofes or actually during/around the holoexpo

>>18446202
that's what they're trying to figure out
put small "joke"-ish "male vtuber" type streams in front of the holoaudience a couple of times to see how many would watch.
Launch StarsJP 3 to gauge interest and see how many EOPs would actually stay and watch streams after 2-3 months of debut.
Check numbers for Luxiem's growth in the next couple of months.

Data is important to understand whether they should even have a StarsEN.

>>18446219
Proof in next thread?

>>18446202
Yes, so much that homofags fucking hate it, more people talk all day about StarsEN than the Holostars that actually exist. In most fan spaces they actively discourage speculating about it because or how often this happens.

>>18446177
Cover, for the 2nd time ever, is losing to Nijisanji. I swear to god, Riku is a fucking genius for actually providing a great alternative for male vtubers. No wonder that guy is a CEO at such a young age.

>>18446119
>There has been a demand among western fans for StarsEN for a while
>HoloEN but male
The same thing. If they'll pander for this audience, it would basically be "HoloEN but male" and would decrease overall numbers.

>>18446268
Go back

>>18446258
damn, I'd thought Oga and Shien were gen 2 since they made up 5 in total, but I forgot stars only had 3 members per gen.

>>18446202
the issue is they have decent activity from reddit but reddit don't watch streams

>>18446177
It will absolutely not give them a general idea. They are definitely going to do research but by looking at male chuubas, not females with established fanbases doing joke streams. That's retarded.

>>18446239
Not guaranteed. There has been enough time and buzz that it can nab more in NA. Probably Asians (Canada) and any weeb girl. Don't know until the ads run again. Anyway it seems to start in Asia and then eventually spreads to the west, we just don't know how big the audience is or when/if it could spread.

>only samurai scheduled stream at 21:00 JST
>only flare from gen 3 today
>no miko, subaru, Marin, pekor
NijiEN main ch gold!

>>18446260
Don't be surprised theres a HolostarsEN 'prank' on April Fool's Day

>>18445788
Its funny you mention this. Lets take a look at the EN Gold list for February. Which works because Gura has been MIA for most of the month.

Hololive has 12 golds for the month

>Council + IRyS
6 Golds
>Myth
6 Golds

Now, out of those 6 golds for Myth 4 of them are Gura. I'm actually going to say that Council + IRyS is stronger than a non-Gura Myth. Now obviously if Gura was actually streaming it might be 12-0 in favor of Myth but that is Gura and she is a monster. Without Gura though I gotta give it to Council + IRyS.

>>18441839
Only because you retards don't include Twitch streams
And then you also choose which site's numbers you use, and give priority to ones that report big numbers to Holos

This medal shit is a fucking joke because you just choose whatever metric you want to make it seem like Holos are still relevant lmao

>>18446310
>>18445748

>>18446190
I guess Rushia yab hitted them harder than we thought,they need a day off.

>>18446324
>EN Gold list
I hate how retards take this seriously

>>18446258
Is there a reason why the official site only placed Kira as an OG like Coco for hololive but not other retired talents?

>>18446289

They debuted with 6 members in their first gen and we all know how that ended up

>>18446313
council already did that with opposite day. i could see some of myth maybe attempt it

Koyori passed Veibae. Mythia enters the top 100.

>>18446326
You don't crying yet, bitch?
Fuck off back to where you came from.

Okay, I don't know if anyone has heard this but on Hololive fan discord, someone said that Kanauru has been asked by Nijisanji recently to become their exclusive animator for long term 3D project. I didn't seem like Kanauru accepted due to the recent Ame Kiara MV, but it does seem like Nijisanji is getting aggressive with securing people to give their company an edge globally.

>>18446354
pretty sure one of the first gen actually got fired

>>18446326
What is so hard to understand
Twitch numbers =/= Youtube numbers

>>18446354
Suzaku left before Cover made it big, Kaoru left because of contract disputes, yet he kept using his Hololive name in Beyblade tournaments

>>18446326
I am posting because you are funny

>>18446280
And Yagoo still want the "offical" game perms from companies.Fuck it,just ask them and play it.

>>18446287
>waaah, I'm talking out of my ass, don't question me
>>18446291
Exactly. These "fan spaces" mean shit. No one from /here/ will watch them, that's for sure. Homobeggars are either trolls or retards who want equality for equalitys sake and when it happens they will dissappear.

>>18446326
twitch doesn't get counted since its a different site with different a CCV counter. also, don't most use vrabi since its one of the few sites that tracks both holo and niji

>>18446291
It's because normalfag holofans (especially on reddit) don't branch out and watch chuubas outside of Hololive 99% of the time, and since the Holostars function mostly independently from the girls, they count as "outside" and get ignored. This is where the beggars get off, they are admitting they are too lazy to just watch the Holostars themselves and would only watch them if they were part of the walled garden the girls exist in

>>18446326
If somebody ends up doing a twitch list (which they are more than welcome to, nothing is stopping you) it is going to be a separate list. Neither the overall tally guy or me (The EN Gold guy) are going to include twitch streams in our tallys. The numbers between youtube and twitch can not be compared. Create your own twitch daily tally if you care so much.

>>18446374
At least they're making moves.
HoloEN's management doesn't do jack shit in comparison.

>>18446354
Length of time in contract. Did a full year and fulfilled the contract = OG

>>18446324
Wasn't there a chart that shows the EN monthly ccv, that when Gura streams more she just pulled all of them up? So like last November or this February we will see a dip because of Gura MIA.

>>18446413
No matter how bad we meme Riku, it is undeniable that guy knows how to be agreesive when he needs to. He is also smart at noy burning bridges at all. I mean, the big ass roster of Nijisanii yet they have never done anything to piss iff any countries.

>>18446374
>Proof or it didn't happen

>>18446437
>me (The EN Gold guy)
kys

>>18446374
that sounds like a bit of a risky move if they are going to push for exclusivity since most of the fan creators that do nijiEN stuff end up being DDs

>>18446446
This is where the fun is getting started. Nijisanji knows they can't win with just fanfare alone so they strike at what artists and animators want the most: Money and clout.

>>18446482
>>me (The EN Gold guy)
kys

>>18446354
>>18446376
Suzaku quit because his PC broke and Cover couldn't help him with that back then and so he decided he'd be better off streaming on his own rather than giving half his money to cover for jack shit support

Kaoru was fired for still unexplained reasons. His graduation was actually quite sudden and pretty much one of the worsts I've seen outside of that Re:act girl, one day he was the fastest growing holostar and then the next day he announced a graduation stream and wiped his account on the same day, more or less like Monoe's.

>>18446493
All artists and animators want clout. If a fairly popular streamer shout them out, that means they get thousands of eyes turning to their stuff. I'm sure that opportunity will convince those people to switch ship right away.

>>18446374
Nice proof there buddy

>>18446119
>There has been a demand among western fans for StarsEN for a while
The voices in yo head dont count anon

>>18446374
I don't believe nijisanji would pay the money to put a fan creator on the full time payroll and make them niji exclusive.

>>18446563
Yea, this smells of that one faggot that said "I love it here because I can just say anything and everyone here will believe me".

>>18446528
Kaoru's graduation was a disaster for the growth of the Holostars as a branch, they would be way bigger if that didn't happen.

>>18445474
200k now and that's just a regular Pokemon stream with no mention of the milestone, Koyori's 500k endurance got 2.5 million

>>18446554
yeah but just look at the numbers from fan animations, ones made for holos get much better numbers.
the only reason i could see someone swapping over would be that they are a fan/DD. so if they push for exclusivity that could turn some of them off

>>18446575
Nijisanji management already has a history of paying clippers and reactors already. I wouldn't doubt this was not the case since Kanauru is also getting cozy with NijiEN.

Nene 10k get, gen 5 let's go!

>>18446507
>fanfare
If by that you mean an army of clipfags (+ yt algo), redditfags and discordfags, then yes, as it is the only things where holo has huge advantage.

>>18446528
Fun as fuck rrats about Kaoru's graduation at least.

>>18446374
>i heard it on discord

>>18446602
Have you seen Luxiem clips lately. A majority of them rival even HoloJP clips in views alone.

>>18446374
Pretty stupid when you can just get clout from both sides, why even limit yourself to one option? There is vshojo too.

>>18446326
CRY MOAARR

>>18446641
No they don't, what the fuck are you talking about

>>18446621
Hololive*, Stars don't get any of that shit besides Reddit

>>18446374
> exclusivity tactics like console and Epic
are they purposefully trying to make the tribalfagging worse?

>>18446641
Post them

the thread feels more stupid than usual

>>18446621
I think Luxiem is matching that number with their B2 numbers alone. Who knows, there might be a Nijisanji Moments in the future.

did the collective iq in this thread dropped like 50 points in the last 20 minutes

>>18446507
This is actually exactly what I feared when NijiEN first got announced. HoloEN has fostered a fantastic community with high fan enthusiasm and those fans are being paid back by getting involved with official projects. Then along comes Nijisanji and since they can't compete with Hololive on talent and their fans aren't nearly as engaged, they just throw money around and buy everything up leaving the community a barren wasteland compared to what it once was.

They are the Los Angeles Lakers or the New York Yankees just buying championships.

>>18446641
post em retard

>>18446641
this was the first channel that came up, that wasn't an official one, when i searched "luxiem nijisanji". not familiar with popular clippers on niji's side

>>18446608
That's ultimately some spare change. Paying an animator to go full time exclusive for them is more money than half their roster makes in a year.

>>18446528
Suzaku definitely made the right choice too, I'm not sure why the other homos are still trying

>>18446091
Not surprising. She doesn't even try to take things like that seriously when she's got her avatar in a bag of chips.

>>18446664
>>18446670
There's an idiot or two posting their schizo thoughts with no evidence to back them up.
IF YOU WANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY WITH SHIT THAT SOUNDS ODD, POST SOME EVIDENCE OR GTFO

>>18446642
Vshojo management is beyond retarded at this point, they won't do shit or else Melody will "magically" accuse them of sexual harrassment.

so laplus will be the only member of the top10 holos who will stream today it seems

>>18446684
He is declining hard now with the same fucking content and amongus being irrelevant.

>>18446678
Damn, NijiEN is raking in views, much higher than what HoloEN is getting recently.

>>18446664
>>18446670
it's more confirmation bias, because Niji HAS attempted to pay people to react to their clips, so it's easy to see them actually doing this.

>>18446698
I think it started with this >>18443744

>>18446680
Fucking this, if you think some spare change is enough to bar an animator with a history of official Hololive commissions you're retarded

This is probably the first time I've ever seen haachama's CCV higher than her likes, seems like she's still slowly growing but this still much better than her previous numbers, also her last VOD is on the way to 100k, the first in a while... Guess youtube is giving her a breather?

>>18446374
Holo has shitton of animators anyway
https://youtu.be/BwTldpmjA6U
https://youtu.be/vWLBFdf_ss0
https://youtu.be/wenbMXfDfkA

>>18446374
POST PROOF FAGGOT

Okay, question for #:
Whoare the biggest EN clippers for Hololive and Nijisanji?

>>18446678
>13 days ago
Got the channel name so I can see how their recent clips are doing?

>thread is unironically talking about clips now
you retards take bait too seriously

>>18446684
by the time he inclined was during the height of the amongus arc. By then Holostars was also inclining and cover was investing serious resources into them. and just like all the other amongus streamers when that fad died he died with them so it wasn't exactly a sustainable model

>>18446757
There's barely any overlap right now from either company.
First time seeing primetime this barren in a long time.
Everyone is just chilling. Gold is a Kuzuha stream from 1am last night.

>>18446760
Yeah, even if Hololive lose one, they still have up to 20-25 more of the big ones. Not to mention countless smaller ones. That is how big the community is.

>>18446673
>HoloEN has fostered a fantastic community with high fan enthusiasm and those fans are being paid back by getting involved with official projects.
Translation from cope language:
>HoloEN has fostered a cuck community that tolerates and even enjoys then their untalented, boring and lazy vtubers don't stream for weeks straight, and are especially conditioned to be blind to actually entertaining and talented vtubers from other agencies.

>>18446800
once shitposters took that en gold shit too far only to get picked up by actual retards it was over man

>>18446774
By subs: https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/kirinuki
By sub growth: https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/kirinuki?order=fav_cnt_diff
By views: https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/kirinuki?order=view_cnt
By view growth: https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/kirinuki?order=view_cnt_diff

>>18446774
Otakmori

>>18446800
Anon we've always talked about clips, it's another metric to use and there's no reason to discard it unlike, say, twitch numbers

>>18446846
RED LETTERS
BLACK OUTLINE

>>18446773
smoothie, that was their most recent uploads. like i said i wasn't familiar with niji clippers, they were just what came up first.
had another look and got this one which seems more active, but still not sure what their main clippers are.

>>18446803
At least he got signed to uuum before they discovered his decline lol

>>18446828
>actually entertaining and talented

>>18446843
Both Kamitsurugi and Cooksie focus more on indie Twitch vtubers. They are singlehanded helping indies grow much bigger so good for them.

>>18446871
I assume that smoothie is their top dog clipper, considering he gets acknowledge by them all the time.

>>18446871
These clips get bigger numbers than most HoloEN clips nowadays.