/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

For the reference, I don't believe in keeping these threads alive, but since someone always ends up making it anyway, I might as well do it to make sure it's done right.

You guys are alright. Supportive bump.

cuck lmao

ntrgen

These threads really should be retired. They're just magnets for abuse and there's no chance of a fanbase recovery for Rushia. Things will never been the same again and it's time to let go.

Do you blame her for having a BF/not doing enough to keep it a secret, the fanbase for being mad about a glorified voice actress having one, or the entire concept of streaming/V-tubing/GFE for capitalizing on people slowly becoming isolated from one another?

Rushia and mafumafu is unironically a good pairing, where my shipperfags at

it's all so tiresome, just bring me back her comfy streams.

>>18311930
Now that's too harsh of a take. Right now, they're just cesspools, but in a few months, they might be alright again.
Until we hear Rushia's position, there's no point in doomposting.

>>18311971
I blame Rushia, Mafumafu and excessive hate from fans. She played with fire and got burned, but people are also being real fucking cringe.

I don't think I can support her anymore. I am heartbroken.

>>18311930
>>18311971
The only thing I don't get is the people who are still in denial about it. The way I see it, your choices are either to leave because of it, or to say "I don't care" and continue supporting her. Saying "I don't care" is, of course, the sane choice, because she's free to do whatever she wants in her free time and nobody should have any right to control her. But this community has fostered too many people with unhealthy, deranged views and in the end I think this trial by fire is a good thing to finally burn off the deadwood and turn her fanbase into an actual well adjusted one.

>>18311971
> or the entire concept of streaming/V-tubing/GFE for capitalizing on people slowly becoming isolated from one another?
This one.
At this point it's simply emotional manipulation to get money out of people. If it was anything other than a cute and funny anime girl doing it nobody would defend it.
It's fundamentally different from Calli's controversy a while ago in which she was direct and clear already from the start that she wouldn't cut ties with her irl friends just because some of her fans didn't like them and that was that. That's respectable, being dishonest and begging for pity when you get caught isn't.

>>18311971
im mad at all the virtue signalling cunts that kept spreading information that they think is right, despite mafumafu denying it and rushia's recent deleted tweet calling it misinformation. Rushia and Mafu wants to make it so there's nothing between them, their "defenders" are outright playing against that.

>>18311971
I blame offsite niggers who can't stay in their own lane.

Haaton here, just wanted to let you know I'll make you all some rice

So if she was trying to get Mafumafu, can we after things calm down use that as leverage to get her to love us even more? Tell her we need her to stream 24 hours to be able to trust her that she's not cheating on us with other men, and get constant streams of her living with us and eating food and finally get the fabled bathing streams and sleeping streams? Force her to give us a full heartbeat stream? Dirty kiss asmr for 24 hours? Say 愛してるrepeatedly to us over and over again until she finally collapses and passes out? Make her do these things as we're menhera fans that want her to prove her devoted love to us.
Maybe I'm just really obessed with wanting that bath stream.

>>18312772
No chance she'll ever do any of those things and you know it.

>>18311740
lmao another fancuck thread

>>18311971
Mankind knew that they cannot change society… so instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts.

I miss her... I want to hear her voice again

>>18312887
She's the one who was trying to groom him though

>>18312922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAYQIUScsPU

>>18311971
I am blaming niggers who have no idea what's going and make situation worse just to make shitty non-statements about, really, nothing at all, they just parrot buzzwords like "parasocial relationships", they get across nothing and do nothing positive except making them feel good about themselves by saying shit like "I am ok with Rushia having a bf" without understanding implications for Rushia by perpetuating this, pretty much confirmed, but still a rumor.

What I think really needs to be discussed is that we are in a situation where vtuber got burnt by perpetuating the toxic ideal of idol's purity, by defending her they also inadvertently defend that concept and I think people really don't realize that, it's the concept that she's considered to be queen of, everyone criticizes this idea, yet now we see people unwittingly defend it.

>>18311740
She's now guilty about her boyfriend potentially have his career ended that she threatened to commit suicide if people do not believe her. What a shameful and pathetic person.

>>18313100
It's the only way to deal with a bunch of emotionally stunted, sexually starved, 20-something ravenous nips.

>>18313100
idk anonchama, have most of the world know your mistake, humiliate and wrongfully virtue signal you. it can drive you to the edge, specially if your main career is being an entertainer.

>>18311740
Rushia thighs

>>18311740
lol

How can you support her knowing that she practically cucked you? Women complain about porn being emotional infidelity, isn't this the same thing?

I love to imagine what their children would look like.

>>18313099
>vtuber got burnt by perpetuating the toxic ideal of idol's purity, by defending her they also inadvertently defend that concept and I think people really don't realize that, it's the concept that she's considered to be queen of, everyone criticizes this idea, yet now we see people unwittingly defend it.
This.
EOP tourist retards who had never heard about hololive prior to Gura's debut constantly bash the "idol culture" of the JP audience (or rather, the caricature of idol culture that plebbit told them is very very problematic), but then they completely trip on their own feet by doing shit like this. If someone wants to support Rushia through this, then the correct response is waiting for her to calm down and make a message to clear things up. NTRbaiting and saying shit like "incels are angry just because Rushia is having sex with someone other than them" just adds more fuel to the fire and goes completely against Rushia's own statements so far, which have been denying that there's any relationship.

>>18313607
The cucks aren't women though, they are men.

>>18313626
ayylmao

If someone trusts Rushia then they will say that she has no boyfriend and this is all a misunderstanding. Saying "i'm okay that Rushia has a bf" implicitly means that you concede that she was lying.

I just want Rushia to be happy

>>18311971
Yes the longer she stays silent and acts all woe is me on twitter The more angry I grow with her because while she hasn't spoken her silence is speaking volumes too me.

>>18313607
If the Korekore narrative is true then yes she did emotionally cheat and I'm out. I'm still waiting for her side of the story though.

The strongest feeling I have about this is pity for Mafumafu if he's actually Rushia's bf, dating a menhera/crazy girl is not fucking fun no matter how cute she might be. I can see her being the emotionally manipulative type too.

>>18311971
If they were actually together, which I don't believe, I cannot forgive that.
If she developed some feelings but nothing happened, I could forgive it.

>>18313537
She does this all the time

>>18311971
>the entire concept of streaming/V-tubing/GFE for capitalizing on people slowly becoming isolated from one another?
But that's wrong. Many vtubers encourage their fans to form friendships and do things other than just wait for the next stream. Rushia does the opposite. She says she doesn't like fans interacting with each other and that she should be the most important thing to them.
I blame her entirely for taking this route with her career/character/personality or whatever.
Anyone blaming muh idol culture, Cover, Hololive or vtubers as a concept is wrong. Rushia herself specifically chose how to interact and appeal to her audience, and she even did it on her personal accounts.

I still don't know if she actually has a boyfriend because it's not entirely clear, but she at the very least broke the trust of those that expected her to never get close to other men like she promised.

>>18314086
What if she tried acting on the feelings but was rejected like kk seems to be saying?

>>18313981
Are you a dumbass or did you not understand what 判断が出来ない状態ですお願いだからないことばかりいうのやめてくださいおねがいしますmeant.
She's explicitly stating if she was able to avoid the red tape of management she would clear things up earlier, so don't slander her. How can you be upset at her when she wants to speak but can't.

>>18313964
>+4 years of dating and still not married
Sorry anon but I don't think Mafumafu wants to make Rushia happy bc the main reason that couples in Japan dont get married is because of money, however in this time, money is not a problem

>>18314059
Mafumafu is a much, much bigger asshole and crazy fuck than anything Rushia's ever done and it's a big part in why I don't at all believe his and korekore's crafted narrative.
We're talking about a guy who has both destroyed other utaites like lon and ex-gfs based solely on his personal interests AND basically forced slightly smaller entertainers like soraru into being his bitch-boys who'll he'll intentionally sabotage through guilting fujos the second they try to do something without him like the latter's current solo attempts.
The worst that can be said about Rushia is that she's a shit judge of friends.

>>18313981
You DENSE MOTHERFUCK
She can't speak, she's literally not allowed to. Surely even someone as dense, dim and dumb as you would realize that anyone would want to speak their side as accusations are flying around the place. The likelihood of her being silenced by management (albeit likely for good reason) for the time being while the (lawyers of) two sides figure out a joint statement to communicate tends towards absolute certainty. It is exceedingly, painfully obvious how fucking new you are to her, this place. Hell, if you didn't type these few words I'm reading on my screen right now, you might as well be underageb& because you so clearly lack any kind of reasoning skills that allow you to discern even the most basic, obvious and trivial facts of life and how a workplace works. Even if you're not underage, you've probably spent your life spending life at uni until you've dropped out due to catastrophic academic failure, financed by your parents in the meantime. And now you're just a pathetic NEET with social skills at the bottom of the barrel, trying to fill the endless devouring heart by making snide remarks on anonymous Mongolian basket weaving forums as a poor man's substitute for any kind of meaningful connection with literally anybody because even the Discord servers you've tried to get into kicked you out for acting like a petulant child.
Fuck off.

>>18314169
Would be hard because "I was going to but they didn't want to" isn't much better than "yeah we both wanted to"
I'd still want to hear her explanation first. The least she deserves it to be able to talk about it and give her view.

>>18314225
Shut up I owe you nothing my feelings on this won't be manipulated pressured or dictated by others because of shits like you

>>18314329
Well hell, I take it back if that's true. I don't follow male VTubers at all, never even heard of this dude before, but fuck him if so.

>>18314328
Yeah no I don't buy that cool that you're so dumb and easily manipulated like a good piggy

>>18314329
If mafu is lying about things or trying to save his own ass by throwing her under the bus, at the very least this would result in Rushia never wanting to see him again, no?

>>18314434
Not a vtuber but an utaite (vsinger before vtubers). Even Ado got (is getting) flamed for having looked up to him.

>>18314590
She's a menhera tho.

>>18314590
Touristchama Itsnt the first time (its 3th)

I was pretty mad the past couple days, but now I've cleared my mind about a lot of things. As much as they try to hide it, VTubers will always be 3DPD behind their mask and I've stopped caring about them a long time ago. Maybe once we have AI tubers I'll give them another shot but for now I'll stick with other forms of entertainment.

>>18314590
>menheras
>abandoning their target
Anonchama...

>>18314107
This is why you shouldn't be surprised a lot of people hate on her, suicidebait is so fucking deranged and she does LITERALLY once a week. You can't take someone like this seriously, much less give them any pity. She dug most of the hole. I do hope things can go as much as possible back to normal, but at this point it's unlikely.

>>18314590
who knows about Rushia, but I doubt Mafumafu is going anywhere close to her after this

>>18314701
Anonchama get a real friends...
>Also
Get a girlfriend or have sex isnt the best in the world

>>18314329
>We're talking about a guy who has both destroyed other utaites like lon and ex-gfs based solely on his personal interests AND basically forced slightly smaller entertainers like soraru into being his bitch-boys who'll he'll intentionally sabotage through guilting fujos the second they try to do something without him like the latter's current solo attempts.
qrd?

>>18314701
I do not even watch Rushia but after what happened I cannot even enjoy other vtubers anymore

>>18312041
Your opinion is what everyone should have for now, as long as Rushia's version doesn't come out.

>>18314701
Glad you found the light.

>>18311971
Her only crime is being too stupid to hide her discord notifications and using her company account for personal uses. Other members definitely have relationships like Towa, but they're at least smart enough to take precautions to prevent any mishaps like this. Rushia got careless even though she was playing with the GFE for massive supachas, and now she's getting mindbroken for her retarded brain slip.

>>18312041
Tell me why you blame mafumafu. It wasn't him that fucked up by hiding the discord notifications.

>>18314894
Are you ok anon? Do you stop watch movies/series when you know one of actors is a douchbag?

>>18311971
All of them. We as individuals look everywhere to blame for our inability to really change society.

>>18314590
I doubt they're together at all.
People take korekore at his word but his entire company is blacklisted for doxing and lying about people in the industry.
Rushia's only friendly with him because his channel was where she first got to publicly blast mahoto for being an abusive piece of shit.

>>18314328
This shit reads like a copy pasta lmfao anon opinion is a thing that I don't like quickly I need too meltdown over his opinions and try to discredit and gaslight the anon as hard as I can.

>>18312077
People don't want to understand your pain, because it would imply taking into account the typical male suffering of feeling betrayed by a woman, and that would harm the feminist narrative. They are willing for there to be a sacrifice, and it is us.

>>18315026
by not hiding*

I've been thinking about the optimal chain of events from hereon out, but it's tricky.
There is literally no scenario I could imagine in which Rushia hasn't lied to her fans at least once.

I guess if she had to go with something, "I do actually meet men sometimes, but it's just mafu and we're friends from a long time ago" is the most harmless one compared to all the others and her knowing mafu was an open secret anyway, it's the relationship stuff that is the big deal right now when it used to only be allegations based on old photos

>>18315173
>muh feminist this
>muh men that
Just fuck off. No one cares about your twitter spats and it's clear you're not a vtuber fan.

This is what I'm going to do to her once she comes back!

>>18315026
He looks like an alien faggot so I don't like him, thus faulting him. Simple as.

>>18315173
Too true anon too true!

>>18315276
That’s fucked up

>>18312217
They're allies. Doing what an ally does best. Showing respect. Lots of respect.

>>18315276
I feel like you're going a bit too far...

>>18315329
your oshi is a whore so i don't like her. simple as.

>>18312077
>>18315173
Holy shit you guys actually thought this dumb nigger-cock-sucking bitch was your actual girlfriend? yeah bro, she's pretending to be your GF... alongside the other 8000 people watching her. Jesus christ you faggots are insufferable. Every vtuber you like puts dick in their mouth on the regular. Get over it.

>>18314329
is there a lot of evidence behind mafu shutting down lon and others?

>>18315432
k bud

>>18314329
sounds based to me

>>18314654
JUST FOR LOOKING UP TO HIM?

>>18315632
What drives tourists like these to always feel the desire to weigh in when they know absolutely nothing?
Not just him but all those thousands of people, it's crazy.

>>18315156
Who tf are these names. When was this

>>18315781
>tourist
Nice boogeyman faggot. If your oshi isn't indie or part of a group of less than 4 people she's sucking dick and playing pretend. That's what vtubers are. Pretend people hiding who they really are behind a character they have created. Or in the case of holoshit, a character Yagoo and his manager team approved.
Rushia is a character and you're heartbroken that she fucked up and that illusion is shattered. Take your meds anon it's time to grow up and move onto better vtubers.

>>18315914
No one is going to watch you no matter how much you shit on hololive.

>>18315914
Nijiniggers opinions aren't worth the fake homo cum they come drizzled in.

>>18315905
I don't spoonfeed newfags.

Hello, I'm a Nijisanji fan. This Rushia crisis is proof that Hololive is a dying brand, and you guys should check out other streamers.

>>18316206
>most obvious falseflag

>>18315781
>What drives tourists like these to always feel the desire to weigh in when they know absolutely nothing?
They have this mental idea of what the drama is about and actually interacting with people who have no clue what the fuck they're on about doesn't dissuade them from it.
They're unironically very low IQ. Probably why it's mainly americans and indos engaging in it.

>>18316345
yeah it sounded too civil

>>18311971
blaming? I praise all the parties involved for making such a great show for me to enjoy

>>18316017
I don't stream, but you should go watch Nina Saotome she's an indie vtuber who blows any of the corporate shitstreamers out the water.

>>18316036
>nijinigger
Thank you for not reading my post. Fuck every corporate vtuber group out there. Fuck hololive, fuck nijisanji, fuck vshojo, and fuck every other random group who makes a factory line for vtubers.

>>18316608
>ENshit shill
Of course it had to be

>>18316206
People will deny this but it's true

>>18316608
Oh so you're literally a 2view groomer/whore shilling.

all this fiasco is just one giant circus and nothing will come out of it

>>18316608
>she's an indie vtuber who blows any of the corporate shitstreamers out the water
What are her numbers like? CCV? Sponserships? Oh it's nothing? And she would immediately jump ship to a corporation if she could?

>>18316671
Don't worry anon I'm sure she understands your english superchat! Keep giving her money when she can't doesn't even know you exist besides being a dirty foreigner!
>>18316789
>>18316848
Averages hundreds of viewers and is doing her 3D debut at a Kizuna AI show. Maybe if you had some taste you'd already know about her because she isn't a small vtuber by any means.

Is twitter broken for me or did rushia delete her last statement before the menhera one?

>>18317019
The post-GTA tweet? That one got deleted yeah

>>18314914
Doesn't matter, I can't trust a word she says, I can only look at the available evidence.

>>18317106
The only available evidence being the guy messaging her on discord about going home.
And we know that there is an offstream discord for vtubers and pro apex players to play Apex together, that's why /jp/ made up that meme about "if your oshi is playing Apex with men.." shitposting.

>>18317350
>The only available evidence
情弱乙

>>18317350
kore showed screenshots of conversations on his stream

>>18312197
>this community has fostered too many people with unhealthy, deranged views
I agree with you except for this part. Rushia herself created this unhealthy viewers and capitalized from it, the best she can do is stop playing the GFE facade and focus on something else, she has a beautiful voice and a cute avatar, there is nothing really to be afraid of.

>>18317394
Kore is even less believable than narukami.
>>18317616
Sure, just like the 5ch "dms" about her having an abortion at 23.
>make radically differnet claims in his followup stream
>suddenly get invited to collab with mafu "motherfucker" mafu

>>18316958
You're the one giving your money to a western whore. I don't give my money to anyone, simp.

>>18317745
I'm sure he would get sued into the floor if he made those up entirely and it wasn't actually Rushia

>>18312203
I guess all relationships are emotional manipulation then, because they work by humans appealing to each other's nature.
This sentiment that you can't have relationships over the internet or to a mass of people, or that it's automatically manipulation is bullshit, it happens all the time, and brings value to people's lives and it's defendable.
What is not defendable is being a liar, and that has nothing to do with the viability of parasocial relationships.

>>18317681
>just change up your strategy, bro!
Not that simple. No matter how many times you people insist that this will blow over in a few weeks, it's not going to.
I'm thankful that at least Rushia herself seems to realize this.

>>18317788
I'm sure he's way more afraid of being sued by mafu going by how much he was sweating on that second stream.
Cover aren't known for being litigious but at this point they really fucking should be.

Doesn't mafu also tell his fans he doesn't meet women?
They should be mad

>>18312197
God normalfags are delusional. You came into this hobby, the gachikoi were here before you, they'll still be here after you find a new trend to shit up. All the girls know this. They will never pander to you over their biggest and most committed fans. You don't donate or buy merch, why would they? You need to give up already. If you hate gachis then leave because nothing is changing.

>>18314966
>Towa
> but they're at least smart enough to take precautions to prevent any mishaps like this.
God I fucking hate secondaries so god damn much, go back.

>>18318046
Just because the western side that's only focused on shitting on men isn't talking about his crazy female fans doesn't mean they aren't mad.

>>18317745
>Kore is even less believable than narukami.
Nah Kore is a fag but at least he only makes up half his shit unlike NRKM who makes up all of it

>>18318046
Yes and they are mostly kinda mad about it, but in the current narrative his side of the story looks a lot better than Rushia's

https://youtu.be/zrmxGiGfH9c

>>18318201
Both of them are just homos who repeat 5ch shitposts as fact and pretend to have inside contacts because they know someone who knows someone from a tertiary company.
I fully expect kore to get completely BTFO:d if Rushia gets to speak out without too much Cover interference.

what a wild day

>>18317350
You forgetting about the matching items?

We should all aspire to be more like him. He understands that Rushia's happiness must always come first.

>>18318523
While he was living in Tokyo and she was living in the countryside.

>>18318574
Do we have actual hard evidence she was living in the countryside? I believe her but it would help kill some narratives at least

Even if she got caught the character is cute af.

>>18318574

>>18318649
She lived there until shortly after Coco and Kanata moved in together.

>>18318574
Could still mean he visited her every once in a while

>>18318752
I mean sure but that'd mean they weren't living together.

>>18318525
I'm not conviced it's an actual fandead.
Like every single crying twitter post i've investigated turn out to be a generic anti either of the junfag, niji or dramafag variety with either no mention of holos at all until the recent drama or earlier antiposts.
The guy crying in front of his TV's entire twitter timeline was just him going on about the best makeup to crossdress as a tranny.

>>18318688
I know that's what she has said and like I said I believe her when she did, I'm just wondering if there's actual proof of it

>>18318789
Yeah I don't think they were.
At this point it's whether or not they are a couple and failing that whether or not anything happened between or whether Rushia tried to act on any romantic feelings

>>18318789
Still means they were in a relationship though.

Can someone really believe Rushia is innocent at this point? It is not that hard coming back to stream if this was just a misunderstand.

>>18318851
Honestly i'm not even convinced mafu is straight.
Not because of his fashion sense or whatever just because how he acts on stream long-term.

>>18318849
It'd be pretty hard to find any solid proof like that so no, I don't think so. She used to have a hard time offcollabing with her genmates before moving out though so that's the best guess.
>>18318870
I mean sure but you could also say Shinzo Abe could have been visiting her and dating her. The narrative's origin was the matching items.

So far the only person we know she dated is Mahoto.

>>18319012
Maybe, wouldn't stop a woman from trying to make something happen though

>>18318977
It's pretty hard when you have Cover's management up your ass because a small yab became normalfag drama thanks to yahoo news.

>>18318649
Her mother visited her in the middle of the stream before she moved out and after she moved she was talking about city air being dirty and using ubereats for the first time.
Do you think she lied about all these things just in case someone claims she's living together with someone in Tokyo?

>>18311971
I hate everything about it.
I'm not naive enough to think none of the chuubas have a lover. All I want, and the JP chuubas seem to understand this, is that they keep it secret and keep their act on stream.
In Rushia's case it's clearly an accident, it's annoying sure, but I can get over it. Though I can relate with the ones who really feel betrayed, and expect their oshi to remain pure. I really feel bad for them, I also feel just as bad for rushia, who clearly tried to keep it a secret (if the "fabrication" are true) and got her entire career nuked by one silly notification.
What I the most are all the tourists or the ones who hated vtubers/rushia to begin with and can't keep their mouth shut. They are on both sides. Rushia's defenders are becoming more annoying than antis.

>>18319217
Generally I agree but Rushia went so far and all-in on it that for me I couldn't accept her acting that way and being like this if she actually had a guy at the same time. In her case, the only acceptable way is to just flat out be single for the x years she does the job.
Of course, if no one ever knew, that's "just as good" because you can't be mad about something you don't know of. I'm just saying it would be wrong for her to go as far as she went with her fans if she wasn't truly serious about it, which would require her to not have anyone.

>>18311971
After all the content of her telling her fans to only look at her and only having her as GF, yeah i blame her.

>>18311971
Im just disappointed with her decision to resort to Japanese Keemstar instead of her holomates and manger. Now she’s reduced to be as terrible as Sio and Meiro.

>>18319848
>she's definitely going the way of Sio
Are you fucking high.
jps are barely even shitting on her anymore while Sio still has active hate threads on 5ch.

>>18319984
>Sio still has active hate threads on 5ch.
It has been like 2 years, that's some chink tier hatred.

>>18319665
This is why this whole thing is so bad, not just for fandeads imo, I'm starting to doubt everything I know about the chuubas. Are Nakiri and Aqua really that introverted or is even that all just an act? Sure their streamer persona isn't the same as their real one. But after so long, you kinda start to feel a sort of connection, or you think you start to know more about them...
>if no one ever knew, that's "just as good" because you can't be mad about something you don't know of
that's really what I meant. It's not like I don't care.
It's just that if I don't know, well it's just as good.
I seriously couldn't imagine her having a bf, out of all hololive she was among the least likely imo for the same reasons you give.

>>18320022
There's one guy who is still comissioning rape porn of her

>>18320046
Well she claims she doesn't and that she can't deal with all the lying going on but hey, we should take a jp dramatuber's words over hers.

>>18320292
I'm willing to believe a lot she says and I do definitely want to hear it (seriously, if she doesn't address it that doesn't work, she has to) but I think there is no way she didn't do at least something she knows she should feel bad for.
Of course the range goes all the way from "oh well we're all human" to "fuck this, I never want to see you again"

What was Haachama's video that was pro-"Russia" mean? I saw the notification but when I went to it, it was deleted. Was it about Rushia?

What's the point of living when Rushia doesn't get jealous about you thinking about other women...

>>18320636
Yeah. Prob deleted because jps are a bit upset about the tag.

>>18320636
Hardcore diss on all of Rushia's antis. Told them to fuck off in both English and Japanese and the rhymes were sick as fuck.

>>18320710
I'm sure she does. Even if all the things were true that doesn't stop someone from still being jealous. They just want everyone to love them.

>>18320046
I think that people who say that all of the feelings Rushia is doing is just an act don't know Rushia and are definitely not long-time members of her. What you are saying might apply to other streamers out there who are more "guarded" and keep a distance between themselves and their viewers, even their members and long-time fans, and harp about "parasocial bad" all the time, but Rushia is simply not and never has been that type of streamer. When the fandead say that they know Rushia, they're not just talking as casual viewers of a streamer who think they're their best friend while the streamer does nothing more than read their name out, they really mean they do know her, and she knows them too. There's a reason why the top fandead are completely loyal to her and have been called "crazy" many times long before this incident, it's beyond the comprehension any other fanbase on here would understand. That's probably what's eating at Rushia the most, the thought of those loyal fandead losing faith in her because of the lies being spread around as truth before she has the opportunity to set things straight. Hopefully next week when upper management gets off holiday, things will become better.

>>18312217
Fucking this and jesus christ all the EN indies clout chasing was cringe

>>18311971
Kind of ironic that the people "defending" Rushia are fucking normalfags who keep pushing the idea of them dating while projecting this percieved anger to their gachikoi who are in reality are trying to support their oshi's promise. You fuckers are just using this to dunk on vtubers and chastise their actual fans. Now tell me who are the real villains in this story

>>18320906
>>18311971
The ones who were all making it worse are

>hololive antis jumping on this to fan the flames, complain about "idol culture", and make it seem like fandead were angry
>"supporters" who were just virtue signaling and spreading the rumor that she was dating mafumafu, complaining about "idol culture", and make it seem like fandead were angry
>a very small subset of fandead who were actually mad

I'm not really that mad even given korekore's explanation which I suspect is exaggerated to help mafu.
Most of it is shit from before she became a vtuber and what little amounts to emotional cheating is supposedly asking kore about how he treats women as opposed to friends.
I mean this isn't that damning to me at least: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBxbkZ8A4D8

>>18320906
Fandead are just caught in the middle of three very autistic groups.

Hololive antis and people who hate vtubers

Normalfag SJWs who hate gachikoi fans and "support" Rushia by telling her NTR is ok

People who hate GFE and think all vtubers are secretly whores who cheat their fans

>>18321143
Westerners are not used of promises. They project their Machivelian behaviour to the people theyre trying to "defend". They don't agree to the concept of honour and it really shows. No wonder their societies are dying

>>18321208
Using those plushies as evidence is the equivalent of using an ikea shark as evidence

>>18321208
It's definitely extremely weird to have so many coincidences
from cups to plates to cat scratch posts to couple to plushies
Also, the couple wristbands?

>>18319217
I agree with you entirely, my only problem is that I'm not 100% convinced this was accidental.

>>18321601
Well yeah but those are all from an old pre-vtuber thing and he's just bringing them up and discounting them.
The cat scratching post is even more ridiculous since it's the most standard one you'll see in Japan.

>>18321649
hello, tourist schizo. did you consider taking your meds?

>>18321649
Those plushies can be found at Don Quixotes of which there are hundreds across Japan. Not to mention all the tourist souvenir shops that carry them too.

>>18321698
Exactly

>>18321926
What about the bracelets intended for couples?

If Rushia take a rest for 3 month like Miko, do you take it or not ?

>>18322069
They're not even the same bracelet. How can you not tell that one of them is way more thicker than the other?

>>18320710
I guarantee you, even if Mafumafu were pounding her every night, her obsession with being loved by her fans was not fake. Not pretty, but not fake either.

>>18322069
The one in the first pic is thicker than the other.

>>18322069
The only thing in there that matches is the mugs and plates and I could easily see the utaite mikeneko pre-vtubing being a bit of a cringe fan who'd buy that to match his insta posts considering she has also has one of his song CD and kirby toys next to it.

>>18322281
the ones obsessed with loyalty are the most disloyal after all...

>>18322442
Didn't Mafumafu say he got the cutlery at some event? She could have just gone to the same event too.

>>18320779
Anon, i don't know if you know about this, but when people get false accused, the predominant feeling is anger, not sadness or fear.

Okay but is there actually a reason to think they live together or are dating?
The evidence pictures seemed flimsy as hell. I'm really doubting they're dating. I know know why they'd communicate with their work accounts either

>>18311740
She never loved you.
She will never be yours.
You fell in love with an avatar
You are a loser that got cucked.
Deal with it, you dumb paypiggy.

>>18322442
The plate one can be excused too, since Mafu uses it for cat food and Rushia uses it fot her own food
Also, their cats look different lmao

>>18320906
>Now tell me who are the real villains in this story.
Rushia and Mafumafu.

>>18321208
Why is he spreading around shit that Rushia likes him?

>>18321695
I she was so coldhearted enough to do it on purpose she wouldn't throw away the opportunity to get thousands of akasupas per month.

>>18322591
>Okay but is there actually a reason to think they live together or are dating?
No, not really. They lived in different places when the matching stuff happened (2018).
Hell i'd expect he has enough stalkers that he couldn't get away with going to the same place without being found out either.

>>18322576
>not fear
What? Fear is a normal response to being accused regardless of whether you're guilty or not.

>>18322691
I mean kore is a friend of mafu and not necessarily one of Rushia's so I wouldn't be surprised if he's putting him in a better light intentionally.
But as far as I can tell he's mostly claiming that she may have misunderstood his intentions and asked kore for confirmation rather than trying to get together with him.

>>18322697
The implied assumption in that theory is that she wants to graduate.

This is hilarious

>>18322691
Because she obviously does

>>18322733
Ok, not the predominant*, but where is the anger of being false accused?

>>18322591
I could imagine her trying to start something, maybe she ended up developing some feelings for him.

>>18322602

>>18322895
Where is your evidence that she's not angry? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

>>18311971
Rushia is the one entirely to blame. Just Rushia.
She built her whole character as being the fans vtuber girlfriend for over 2 fucking years.
Now that the cat is out of the bag, she has to pay for it. I liked Rushia a lot, even now I don't hate her, but she needs to graduate as apology.
That won't give people the money she took from them, but at least ending the career there is the best way she can atone for her manipulation.

>>18322954
>I could imagine
Who cares. There's no indication of it from either of them.

>>18322591
Why does Rushia need to know when Mafu is home? Why would Mafu send that kind of message for a menhera fan or "friend" ?

>>18322881
Wow we got ourselves a real expert here

>>18322839
>make a graduation stream
>millions join
>all the fandeads give her everything they own

>>18323062
>but she needs to graduate as apology.
You need to kill yourself you massive nijihomo.

>>18323062
People who keep crying "GFE" have never had a girlfriend. Not even the Japanese have used that wording at all. Why are EOPs so fucking obsessed with "GFE".

>>18323086
How would there be? Do you sit on her wall as a fly? Did you read their chats?

>>18322895
Tell me you've never watched Rushia's alt account's twitter. That writing style is one an angry cat being forced to hold back.

>>18323101
>Why does Rushia need to know when Mafu is home? Why would Mafu send that kind of message for a menhera fan or "friend" ?
Why are you posting ITT if you haven't been following the least bit of info at all?
He said shortly after that they're just gaming friends and that they were going to play Apex offstream.
Something we know is a thing between vtubers since there's a whole discord for just playing Apex with other vtubers and some jp pro-players that got invited. It's the basis of a whole lot of /jp/ shitposts.

>>18323173
It's just a more efficient way of describing a vtuber who has a very parasocial relationship with her fans that goes both ways and that often includes people extremely close to the her, moreso than your average "I'm only here to stream some video games" one.

>>18323173
Too feel specials maybe, I can't understand stupid people, sorry

>>18323200
Did you get upset that your NTR fantasy was called out as a fantasy?

>>18322576
this highly varies from one individual to another

>>18312217
This.
Still hoping for graduation though.

>>18323306
You're being retarded. I would be hurt if that was actually true, I hate NTR.
I'm saying that she's only a human and all things considered it wouldn't be that hard to imagine her starting to get feelings for him after years of knowing him.

>>18323413
She could, but even that's just speculation at this point

>>18323060
Anger is not an easy feeling to control, we are talking about Rushia here, i can see her responding to false accusations on twitter on the same day, because there is nothing to hide.

>>18323397
Still hoping for people like you to get dragged out in the streets and for your executioner to be picked at random from one of your NijiEN-homos.

no matter what happens, I just don't want her to graduate. Everything sucks, no matter what happens. But I liked her streams. I like her voice. I like her design. I think she's funny and cute. I don't want her to disappear!

>>18323488
That's still nothing but speculation. Also, there's nothing particularly bizarre about fear winning over anger in a situation like this. Specially when you consider how much she has at stake and the sheer amount of people talking about it.

Fandeads, please don't respond to the trolls. Remember the Four Virtues of the Fandead:

Courtesy.
Understanding.
Consideration.
Kindness.

Never forget that these are the things we stand for in our community. Don't let negativity get you down!

>>18323227
I mean that's fine and all but it doesn't make sense, There are ways for people to know when you can play with a friend built into either the game or multiplayer service. As for the gaming friends thing it still is weird that these two have known each other or at least have been aware of each other for over 4 years to be "gaming buddies"

I have had gaming friends I didn't buy matching or near identical bracelets with them or silverware and cups or anything like that, I never mentioned when I was "home" I would just log in and if I saw them in a game or available I would use the in game messenger or w/e to set up a lobby.

>>18321358
You left off the western septic tank of anitubers that have come out in support of her for something they have no idea about but must white knight out of their ass.

>>18322638
The other explanation is mafu makes his girlfriend eat from the cat bowl, so I hope this stuff proves to be fake

>>18323101
>Why does Rushia need to know when Mafu is home?
You've never messaged a friend to let them know you were home if you had plans with them?

>>18323667
Have you never made any plans with someone asking them to message you when they are done with something so you know they are available?

>>18323667
>I never mentioned when I was "home"
Clearly you never talked much to any of your online friends then.

>>18323667
>but it doesn't make sense
It makes perfect sense what are you on about.
If i'm going to play games with friends after work i'm going to post "Yeah off now, i'll be home and ready in a bit" or similar variations and regularly do. Discord was MADE for that kind of shit.
Fuck going by your logic I would be in a homo orgy from 6+ different people based on how I communicate on discord.
>going home and ready in half an hour

>muh 4 years
At least watch the fucking streams if you're going to be spouting rats. According to kore they became gaming friends recently, if she was a fan like that it was before she was a vtuber.

>>18323627
Her silence is absolutely deafening bro that mafumafu dude has come out with 2 statements already and Rushia is crying wolf yet again. Silence speaks volumes she's sorry she got caught that's all.

>>18314590
what the fuck is a mafu mafu?

Best case the only thing she ever lied about is never talking to any man other than her brother

>>18323627
Shut up, dumb simp

>>18323872
Not that fag but
>According to kore they became gaming friends recently, if she was a fan like that it was before she was a vtuber.
They have been friends for years. He just said they have recently been playing APEX together.

>>18323935
>silence is deafening
>kore's very first claim was that Cover's definitely going to make talking about it hard
It's like i'm talking to actual honest to god retards.
People with an IQ below that of 80.

>>18323583
>He has niji trash living rent free
Yikes

>>18311740
All the rest of the stuff aside, it's fucking crazy to think about how just a few seconds can be enough to change the course of your whole life. Like Rushia had it all set up, a comfy career and lots of adoring fans she could ride into retirement later, now, likely a diminished career if lucky, and no career very much possible, and doubts cast on her entire body of work and her moral character. Pretty insane.

>>18324035
"I've been found out!"

>>18324035
>drama starts
>niji threads nearly die off from inactivity

>>18323205
>Tell me you've never watched Rushia's alt account's twitter.
Yep, thats why i'm not biased.
That writing style is one an angry cat being forced to hold back.
Can someone really be angry in this situation? maybe people who donate to Rushia
I'm just interested in seeing if people are buying these excuses, i mean, we dont even have the excuses.

>>18323951
Her secret (not so secret) boytoy not a fandead by the way.

>>18324082
This is far more entertaining than anything they do

Well it's not like western gachis matter to her income either. We're talking an insignificant amount of people.
Just hope she starts streaming again so all the retards can fuck off.

>>18324015
If the reason Rushia's statement couldn't come out sooner is because there's no upper management there to process it or approve it or whatever because of a national holiday/weekend, Cover is just once again proving themselves to be really shit, there should always be some kind of management in charge, even if its reduced management, to help process these types of things so these rumors and disasters don't have an entire 4+ days to fester, they've completed failed Rushia if that's the case.

>>18323173
Where did you read GFE in my post, you absolute mongoloid?

>>18320046
>I'm starting to doubt everything I know about the chuubas. Are Nakiri and Aqua really that introverted or is even that all just an act?

You should think it in terms of real life acquaintances. You can hide parts of your life such as relationships or hobbies. You can emphasize certain acts around certain people. But you can't fake a personality. You can't fake stories of daily life for long time, even the most pathological liars always become obvious over time.

Voice actresses rehearse lines and record multiple takes to polish a perfect image of different character. Chuubas are not voice actresses, they are live streamers, so transforming to a completely different character live without cracks is impossible and obviously fake when attempted. Unscripted live streaming personalities are not fake. Yes, Ayame and Aqua are actually introverted. Chuubas are more real than a lot of people realize, especially when overseas people have hard time believing what's possible in Japan (basically truth is stranger than fiction). But no matter how much you love them and they love streaming, you are still only acquaintances at most, you don't live with them, so they have the power to hide many aspects of their life.

did she really tweet that she's gonna suicide herself

>>18324615
Yes but that's just a normal sunday for her

>cucks already damage controlling
I guess it's too be expected. I hope at least some japs give her a hard time for this.
Women just can't keep getting away with everything.

>>18324615
The is real but people are debating on the part that had the kanji for death in it also >>18324665
boy crying wolf syndrome from her isn't helping.

>>18324687
>I hope at least some japs give her a hard time for this.
They've forgiven her since like two days ago.
>Women
Fuck off back to r9k indog.

>>18324757
if the japs have forgiven her then why is this still ongoing? is it because of the western fans e-whoring their opinions to continue the drama

>>18318752
The question is, did he on those visits come inside or not? If he came inside, how far did he come inside? Maybe the hallway, maybe the livingroom, maybe inside her ass, or maybe right in the vag◯◯

>>18323227
It's a mistake taking explanations from biased sources who have the incentive to lie. Look at the facts and think of the plausible possibilities.

>>18324835
>>if the japs have forgiven her then why is this still ongoing?
Because she hasn't put out a statement on it and isn't streaming yet.
Everything else is just western concentrated retardation and has nothing to do with the japanese or company views.

>>18322591
Didn't that big streamer literally confirmed he knew they are a couple? I heard is way more popular than vtubers so he got no reason to say it for attention.

>>18324835
It's ongoing because it hasn't been given official closure yet, so it's still up in the air as to what's actually going to happen. Also yeah, people who know nothing about it are still saying their retarded opinions.

>>18324757
>speaking for all of them
You're as dumb as the people who claim every fan does x or everyone mad about this is y
Plenty of fandead are hoping for her to come back safe and sound, but they do want her to explain it. It's not forgiven until that happens.

>>18324072
This
It probably isnt OVER over, but it will change things to an awkward relationship.

>>18324973
Korekore said he thought there was something between them because of the messages he was getting back in november (Rushia's inquiries abour Mafumafu's past relationships and whether he was nice specifically to her or if he was like that with everyone), he wanted to get their permission for exposing that before he went through with it since it's pretty yab regardless.

>>18324615
She said 死にたい (lit. I want to die), but that's as much of a declaration of suicide as it would be saying "I want to die" in English when you're feeling really shitty for whatever reason. It's even more meaningless for Rushia who says it all the time. You can literally scroll down and find her tweeting that she wants to sleep and never wake up just a few days ago.

>>18324952
The public statement/admission/apology is the most important part. It's fine if the fanbase has already forgiven her, but she also has to say something in regards to the incident since it did cause a disruption.

>>18325201
How can you forgive without even knowing the story.
If she comes back and says "yeah we occasionally play apex, that really is all, I'm sorry" of course most would forgive her.
What if she says something else though and admits to there being more to it? I don't see why every single fandead would be accepting of that.

>>18325201
Bah for all the real and fake fandead on her demanding a perfect explanation the reality is that the jps have already made up their minds.
As long as she says it's a misunderstanding that's going to be the end of it for the paypigs who actually matter and has done more than hold a membership for <1 year while spamming images on an EN-infested board.

>>18325325
Fandead aren't one person just like /vt/ isn't or this thread etc. There would probably be a ton of people happy if she said more to it hell this fucker made fanart of it >>18313626

>>18325034
>You're as dumb as the people who claim every fan does x
>Plenty of fandead are hoping for her to come back safe and sound, but they do want her to explain it
You do see the contradiction here, don't you?

It's unbelievable that there's still faggots in denial. This mafumafu thing has been going on for years now. There's photo evidences, and it's not the first time he has been seen in her discord.
If you really believe they are just friends, you are actually retarded. And if are a freak cuck who is okay with them being a couple, that still doesn't change the fact she lied about it.
This situation would be happening had Rushia told us that she has a boyfriend herself, instead of being found out like this.
You know why she never said it? Or why no other Holo with boyfriend will say it? Because MONEY is on the line. They know for a fact they wouldn't earn as much if they tell her fans they are in relationships. So yes, Rushia is getting what she deserves.

>>18325653
>this fucker
Isn't a fandead and is trolling.

>>18325653
Yes, that's kinda my point. I do expect the vast majority of fandead to be content if she says there isn't anything between them other than occasionally playing a game.
But anything more than that and it's anyone's guess how many of her fans would actually be okay with it.

>>18324035

>>18324424
Cover being retarded is not exactly anything new.
They're incompetent as fuck, why do you think Coco left even after they dropped China for her? Their management sucks ass

>>18325787
I don't even have personal investment in the story, but if you think there's definitive evidence for either possibility going around, I'm sorry to break it to you anon, but you are the retarded one.

>>18325787
>don't believe their claims, the people who started the drama around them, the japanese who are way less chill about these things or your own eyes
>believe me random anon who does not know a lick of japanese and can pretend to have "photo evidence" based on old shit the nips have already gone over with a finetooth comb

>>18325767
No, "plenty" is not the same as saying "everyone" or speaking for a whole group.

>>18325787
You are an actual retard.
They didn't even live in the same region of Japan when those photos where taken, and there are many easy to point out differences.
The only 3 things that matched where the mugs, a plate, and a generic a fuck cat-scratcher all of which are popular items at Don Quijote which has hundreds of stores in japan.

>>18323667
Rushia also had Mafumafu's CD, she's clearly one of his menhera fans and has feelings for him, that could also explain buying matching stuff. What is more unclear is what her relationship with Mafumafu actually is like.

Both Mafumafu and Rushia have big incentive to lie about potential relationship. Korekore's first explanation is completely different from the second one, and given his ties to them, it's not trustworthy source, especially the second talk.

One thing complicates things is that the matching things controversy is from 2018, and Rushia moved to Tokyo in 2021. Given the numerous stories about her moving experience, I'm pretty sure she didn't move in together with anyone. But moving to Tokyo could also mean she has more opportunity to pursue relationship with Mafumafu, so things may have changed since. Even if they don't actually live together, this doesn't mean they couldn't date and fuck.

>>18325815
Speaking just for myself and no one else, I'd forgive her for it but I wouldn't be content, she got closer to him than she promised she was with any man and while I wouldn't leave her it would make me trust her less and if any other lie came to light that would be the last straw

>>18326201
>Korekore's first explanation is completely different from the second one
Explain how

>>18326201
>she's clearly one of his menhera fans
Or she's just a fellow utaite.
I mean you do know she used to be an utaite before she was into vtubing and mafu was a bigger utaite, right?

>>18326201
>Korekore's first explanation is completely different from the second one
Not really, the Tiktok stream was so vague and people just read a bunch of stuff into it. It doesn't contradict the main stream

Hopefully the tourists disappear within the month

>>18326337
Mafu is a hundred thousand times bigger than Rushia's PL ever was, you can be a fellow singer and still a fan

>>18326469
They will move on as soon as the next yab happens that they can use for new rrats.
The tourists shitposting about Mori disappeared pretty much overnight as soon as this happened, so its almost certainly the same dedicated shitposters.

>>18312887
source?

>>18325858
>>18325891
>>18326186
>i've been lied to multiple times but i will still believe in the whore
pathetic

>>18325820
Schizo kun...

>>18326201
>she's clearly one of his menhera fans
More like he was one of her menhera fans.

>>18327257
Exactly I think what a lot of people are ignoring is that the two are close and have been close for a long time, regardless of the status of their relationship they both play a completely different tune to their fans.

>>18327064
>multiple times
>I anon, EOP authority extraoirdinaire, knows this while the people who speak japanese natively do not

>EOP
I always laugh when SEA or N4 JSLs say this shit on this board, I can't take it seriously at all most of /jp/ wasn't even fluent in the language let alone /vt/. Larping like you know the language that well is hillarious because if you were that good you'd be on 2ch and 5ch not here.

>>18327366
Most of her JP gachis have known about this for years.

>>18327487
Literally geoblocked for much of Europe.

>>18327376
wait so you pathetic fucks make your opinion based on nips reaction? lmao a cuck and a dumbass. i'm sorry your oshi is a lying bitch but seeing this, you cucks deserved it

>>18327631
And none of them felt it's wrong for her to pretend to not be near any men at all despite everyone knowing better?

She can come back and be fine 100%, Unless you fuck over Holo or the other members the people won't turn on you.
Only people making noise is outsiders and antis.
Mentally who knows if she can handle it.
She'll most likely going on indefinite suspension/hiatus, She needs to be suspended regardless for talking to that fucking drama faggot and then that stupid tweet.

Superchat and viewers may go down but well that's just the nature of the game you played.
I unironically think she'll be worse off if she retires due to so much free time on her hands.

This is why we should've let her collab and interact with the Stars. The Stars would never have fucked up this badly, would've kept professional relations, and maybe she'd still have a chance with one of the Stars after both of their Vtuber careers ended if she was worried about dying alone.
Instead she played with some asshole who will never care for her and just played nice, who had no idea how to be professional, and threw her under the bus for his own protection.
Imagine how much smoother this would've gone if she just played Apex with Izuru instead. We would have no yabs.

Fucking great, now the homobeggars are here, just fucking kill me.

>>18327750
No, because most of them recognize she is playing a character and they are willing to stay in the illusion, just like people know pro wrestling is fake but choose to pretend its real anyways.

https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/285670822264307712

>>18327487
>you'd be on 2ch and 5ch
Geoblocked. I can get around it with UoT's help but can't be arsed most of the time. I'm mostly on /vt/ from inertia of having been on 4chan for over 15 years now.
I didn't even like this board much when it was made due to all the /trash/ fags shitting it up but it actually got a ton worse after EN started getting more popular. /jp/ is actually a lot better for following streams but even there they have a bunch of newfags sperging on about old shit they weren't around to know anything real about.

>>18328131
>This is why we should've let her collab and interact with the Stars.
Now this is shitposting

>>18327940
>I unironically think she'll be worse off if she retires due to so much free time on her hands.

That part is hilarious, people with a lot of money are not crying how they wish they were back at work, If she retires she's free to pursue Mafu and travel Japan or whatever maybe even start over like a rebuild her old utaite

hey fandeadbros, how are we holding up today?
also how did you fel about the whole haachama thing? I've seen some slightly negative feed back on here but the majority think it's pretty great, while the nips were just telling her about the hashtag that it was the wrong one

>>18329435
Better now that she's posting. Dunno about the bunkerfags. I just want her to stream again.
Laughed about the chammers thing, wish she would stream at better times/for longer so I could actually catch her more often.

>>18329435
>while the nips were just telling her about the hashtag that it was the wrong one
No it wasn't. She was showing support for Russia, not Rushia. She made that rice for Putin.

I hope she doesn't kill herself because who can revive the necromancer??

>>18329435
the haachama thing was unironically the most fun thing to happen since the whole thing started, been around 3 days since I last smile and haachama really helped with that
idk if you've read the thread though but it's been tough...

>be Japanese girl
>use online handle mikeneko
>online male friend calls you mii-chan
>HE'S FUCKING HER AHHHHH
Do westerners really?
>b-buh muh matching plushies
>look at them, not matching at all
Take your meds then do your culture reps.

>>18329435
Haachama is insane but she displayed public support in her own fucking nonsensical way, which makes me happy. I laughed a lot

>>18330055
>use online handle mikeneko
>online male friend calls you mii-chan
reps

>>18330055
Her real name also starts with Mi and is pretty easy to find.

>>18314966
Towa does not have a confirmed bf afaik, Watame on the other hand had a similar incident with her switch and yet there was no drama.

>>18330122
>>18330160
Irl men will call their irl female friends cute nicknames too. It's not one solid romance only thing. Holy shit do your culture reps. Actually just go outside and learn how real social interactions go.

>>18330055
Rushia only have to show her "friendship" conversation in discord to stop this, why she don't do it?

>>18328763
Yeah, but it's considered bad form and a fuck up to drop kayfabe in wrestling. Same here.

>>18330407
Her not showing you the dms or not showing them yet is not proof for a baseless narrative.

>>18312887
lol mafu wouldn't be her first but perhaps first not to beat her up before the deed

>>18330407
You can wipe discord messages without any trace. That's no proof.

>>18330537
But is just a friend conversation, way less destructive than a BF rumor.

>>18329435
She bring good moment into dread silence and that help a lot

>>18325325
it seems like she tries to protect this dude honestly, what woman would say "I wanted to date him but he said nah" normally something like that would hurt the female ego and she would twist the story the other way no matter how it happened.
Honestly if they are together this wimp doesn't deserve her at all.

>>18330384
Not in Japan.

>>18330371
Coco helped Watame and if she stays she will help Rushia

>>18331018
That's not what kore said either fucks sake.
I don't even care anymore. Be a dumbfuck EOP for the rest of your misbegotten life.

>>18331072
Mafu's entire twitter timeline is full of shit like that plus emotespam and so are his streams. It's part of his fagsona.

>>18331099
Yes, that Mafu said via by Kore

>>18329435
the Haachama thing gave me a well-needed laugh
I'm glad she's around for Rushia

>>18331167
Oh yeah? Show me one tweet where he uses a pet name to refer to female person. And make it their real name, not some vtuber alias. You have no idea how jealous fujos get.

>>18331768
>And make it their real name
Literally impossible

>>18315276
not again watanabe

>>18332130
Yeah, that's the point. That's why this leaked discord message was such a big deal. He might have gotten away with it if it said "rushia-chan", be he had to go and use her real name which is really unusual.

>>18330160
If it's easy to find why has no one ever posted it?

>>18327257
Here he calls her Mikeneko-san.

>>18332616
Because I don't fancy getting nuked by the jannies, just do your reps instead of expecting to be spoonfed

>>18332413
>real name
It's her utaite handle which is from where he knows her.

>>18333035
Could be either. Both start with Mi.

>>18332857
This isn't about you, this is about everyone. Why has NO ONE posted it if it's so easy to find?
If you're talking about her name on that TV show, that's made up. Everyone gets fake names for those.

>>18333125
Doubt it. I can find plenty of other doxxes but I can't find any indication about her real life name.

>>18333187
>>18333281
>Why has NO ONE posted it if it's so easy to find?
Because we aren't supposed to spoon-feed tourists. Who cares if you know or not.

>>18333281
Do better reps.
In any case Korekore confirmed this is the case in his first video about the issue.

>>18333404
I seriously doubt kore knows her real life name.
All his interactions with her has been online.

>>18331072
Yes in Japan.

>>18311971
I blame her for pursuing and being friends with mafumafu when she promised her fandead she didn't have any male friends and loved them more than anyone else. If she were upfront about it from the beginning I wouldn't have ever watched her, but I wouldn't anti her either.

If you're mad at her for not successfully hiding it, you are a cuck. End of discussion. That's like being mad at your cheating wife for not keeping your marriage's kayfabe up. That's retarded. They're either honest with their audience and don't have a boyfriend or they are dishonest whores trying to take advantage of their audience's loneliness. Just say you have a boyfriend from the beginning so you don't defraud your audience. It's that simple. If you decide to join an idol company out of your own volition, you better not have a boyfriend or else you're a manipulative lying sack of shit that is trying to profit from other's loneliness and vulnerability - you honestly deserve prison.

>>18330499
Dropping it on purpose yea, but this is more like a technical accident of a character thats supposed to have a broken leg walking around normally because they turned on the wrong camera.

>>18334647
>I blame her for [headcanon]
>I totally watched her and am now an anti based on EoPleb takes
I can see it's american east coast hours again.
Time to drop out.

>>18334647
Take your meds, and I definitely don't mean hrt so there's no confusion this time.

>>18322839
graduation? In exchange for what? Losing a major foothold in the entertainment industry?

>>18335426
Being able to marry.