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1) is it even true?
i mean... we know past utaite stuff, mi-**** x mafumafu is a ship that a lot of people believe in, it's certainly not guaranteed (dating/cohabiting) but possible, if not likely. then again it does not even matter since we know mafumafu contacted rushia on stream and that in and of itself is enough to set off the fanbases that don't want these content creators talking to members of the opposite gender.
2) gachikois
gachikois are... dumb. no seriously the whole parasocial relationship thing with vtubers is stupid, hololive kinda plays into that with idols, but c'mon rushia kinda bred it with the gfe. not saying it's all rushia's fault because again, gachikois are stupid (same thing with the yumeshis from mafumafu's side, more on that later). either way, both share some blame in that the gachikois shouldn't be falling into the gfe and spending copious amounts of money to get rushia to "notice them" (the most money desu should be from people that have it completely expendable and would do it to more people or you consume so much of her regular content that you feel it worthwhile to member because you get extra content... that's it, none of that parasocial crap)
3) safety (aka yumeshis)
ok so this is mafumafu's fault for being bfe af. rushia being in danger because her bf or friend or whatever tf mafumafu is to her is not really her fault because the biggest danger arguably comes from mafu's fandom. now if they actually are dating i don't see it too unreasonable to argue that mi-**** should've told mafumafu to chill on the bfe side, but then again considering rushia gfe it was unreasonable. even still that still lies a little of the blame on her. now of course i also know that mafumafu was bfe even like well before 2018 or whenever (or even earlier desu) so that part of the blame for his backlash lies entirely on him. but to that end, it's kinda mafumafu's fault that his gf's or whatever rushia is' safety is maybe a bit threatened
4) overreactions
gachikois/yumeshis entirely to blame here: sure if you were expecting a gfe/bfe product and it gets revealed that the streamer was lying to you, you have a bit of a right to be upset (going back to the part of the blame that rushia/mafumafu have for cultivating such an audience), but why are you going after that gfe/bfe instead of... idk actually going and getting a real gf/bf or going to therapy or just being more social (practice makes perfect)? not trying to get into political shit on how governments/society should treat mental health but still if these people don't want to do things to change their lonely selves then a lot of the burden lies on them. thus an acceptable reaction for these (male and female) gachikois is to unsubscribe, unmember, stop donating, etc. from the content creators they watch. what is not acceptable are death threats, doxxing, and the like. that leads me into
5) don't ruin it for others
i am a guy. i like mafumafu's content: specifically quite a few of his songs (don't care too much for the covers, but mainly the originals and his old vocaloid stuff). i respect him as a composer, as a singer, and as a musician in general. you know what else: i respect lon as an utaite, and i would really hate for the same fate to befall mafumafu as it befell lon. in a similar vein, there are scores of people that respect rushia as a content creator and find her non-gfe stuff to be enjoyable (maybe her singing even). these people are going to support her and wish her no harm even if she ends up marrying mafumafu/anyone (really in any relationship status rushia is in) because they are there for the streamer's content regardless of gfe. those people would hate to see her graduate from hololive because of stupid gachikois. so really, while it is ok for the gachikois to be annoyed/upset and feel betrayed that the service that they were shown to expect from mafumafu/rushia was a lie, doing anything more than stopping support for the creators (i.e., becoming antis, doxxing, threatening violence, harassing, forcing to graduate, etc.) is just ruining it for everyone else that doesn't care if the two are together or not (like me).
6) what i (and everyone that isn't a schizo) am asking for:
please gachikois (of mafumafu and rushia), don't be complete and utter shitheads and ruin it for everyone else, though i know that that is probably too much to ask of you.
7) post-scriptum
personally i think rushia x mafumafu would be cute and we'd get some banging utattemita off that so im all for it desu. also why i'm posting something to try and be reasonable on this site is beyond me

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I don't know anon, you tell me.

>> No.18223057

>>18222954
>Not guaranteed dating/cohabiting
He quite literally said "I'm done with work for today. I'm coming home now, sweetheart." Take a guess.

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>> No.18223148

>>18222954
It's true, anon.
Korekore involvement proved it.
But since they deny it, let's just accept it.
Hololive will be ruined if this kept going.

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>>18222954
>is it even true?
>not saying it's all rushia's fault because again, gachikois are stupid [...] ok so this is mafumafu's fault for being bfe
>i am a guy. i like mafumafu's content

>> No.18223850

>>18222954
>mafumafu x rushia
it's real but i can understand why people chose to not believe

>> No.18224078

>>18223850
it's cope bruh.
why suffer and hurting when you can still drown in fantasy.

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>> No.18225478

>>18223150
op here
>is it even true?
desu i believe the ship is real and i'd actually like it to be, but for the sake of argument wrt gachikois it doesn't matter.
>stuff about whose fault it is
read: both the pair of vtubers and their fans are at fault: one for being a bunch of deranged schizos and the other for trying take advantage of said schizos. also the "this" that you "quoted" refers to the element where rushia's safety is in danger not because of her own fanbase, but because of the fujo fanbase mafumafu helped create (just as rushia helped create a gachikoi fanbase), so he is indeed partly at fault.
>guy likes mafumafu stuff
again read: mafumafu as a vocaloP is fine (unless you're saying every vocaloid fan and most of jp is gay) also some of his original songs/composition. i don't watch his streams, i don't care about his personality

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>>18222954
meds

>> No.18229085

meds

>> No.18229109

>>18222954
Nice blogpost, didnt read, kill yourself

>> No.18229925

>>18222954
Oh look, another mentally deranged tourist. You are far more insane than any gachikoi.

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>>18222954
They deserve each other.

>> No.18233514

>it's certainly not guaranteed (dating/cohabiting)
Korekore pretty much accidentally spills the beans (confirms/tells more than what was out) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tO5gMzoI4 You are never gonna get video evidence of Mafumafu fucking Rushia, but taking all the clues helps.
>sure if you were expecting a gfe/bfe product and it gets revealed that the streamer was lying to you, you have a bit of a right to be upset
You have all rights to be upset and traumatized for being cheated on, emotionally manipulated and borderline scammed. I mean, you have to take responsibility of potential risks, but that still doesn't mean that the nigerian prince isn't in the wrong for scamming you.
>gachikois are... dumb
>but why are you going after that gfe/bfe instead of... idk actually going and getting a real gf/bf or going to therapy or just being more social (practice makes perfect)?
You are dumb elitist if you think traditional relationship is the fix it all solution and salvation for every unique person and life situation.
>5) don't ruin it for others
Agree, but also don't bury the truth. Every person who watches and donates to Rushia for GFE deserves to know if a man is fucking her behind the camera. Threats or violence are always wrong, and don't harrass her on her channel nor social media, but the truth needs to be out there so that people can make informed decision for their emotional and monetary investment.

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