/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

How vulgar

>>1803802
Stupid Western woman ruin anything...

God i want to fuck vei

Worse than her being a whore, it was cringe.

>>1803802
>What the fuck, vtubers are supposed to be pure girls
How new are you?

>>1803802
>/vt/
I want my Chuubas to be completely free to do whatever they want and express themselves however they want!
>also /vt/
NOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!

Disgusting

Goddamn these vtuber wannabes are awful.

>western indies
You get what you deserve

Please don't post these things with subaru

>>1803802
>VTMB
Based as fuck taste.

>>1803802
Made for BBC(Braindead Brainless Consumers)

>>1803802
>twitch
Found the problem.

>>1803802
>I have sex
Fucking disgusting, I only superchat pure virgins.

>>1803802
Mel really is the sweetspot for this type of chuuba lewd and cute

This is why Yagoo is hiding HoloEN in the closet.

>>1804757
pic related

>>1803802
Vei is the definition of a brainless bimbo

vei is literally one of us, not even a joke.

>>1804798
Can't believe we lost Erolive to "yeah I suck dicks lmao".

>>1805150
>"one of us"
>doesn't understand a Door Stuck line

>>1805213
she says she goes on "that place which shall not be named" all the time. Also her asmr stream was really fucking funny.

Reminder that she's popular in Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwBorLeh15A

>>1803802
>twitch.tv
No

>>1805387
Yes, and?

>>1805307
based!! Nothing says 4channeler more than talking about it on other websites :) do you mind if I screencap ur post r/4chan?

clip no longer exists, quick rundown?

>>1803802
At first when I saw this thread I was like
>why are you shilling
>why are you using a picture of Subaru
>who is this bitch?
But then I clicked and saw vampire the masquerade and the only response I had was BASED.
If you wanna share your oshi try thinking on how to sell her better that won't aggravate people, your lucky she has good taste in vidya

>>1804037
>I want my Chuubas to be completely free to do whatever they want and express themselves however they want!
Yes but only to me newfag. She should never talk about any other m*n

>>1804037
Still vulgar for nothing.

>>1806669
Burger woman being burger woman

>>1803802
Why are you surprised a western roastie whore is being a western roastie whore? Just because she's using an anime avatar to hide her ugly ass?

>>1803802
>westoids
>pure

Western indies are just e-whores jumping on the bandwagon. If VTubers hadn't become popular they'd be flashing their tits and ass doing yoga on Twitch or whatever.

>>1808931
This. Hololive is lucky in finding total neets and didn't just sign on a bunch of pokimanes.

>>1809085
>Lucky
It's called having standards

>>1806669
Tried to sneak through the door, man

>>1809085
>holoEN
>pure

>>1806979
This reeks of selfpost

>>1809441
Never mentioned pure. Plus there's a difference between being a bit degenerate and being a whore

Sex is disgusting.

>>1803802
veibae is pure cringe, she should've just stuck to being an overwatch thot.

>>1809085
Anon... Aqua is like the only one comes close to being a neet, and that's only because people have only found her past work instead of her irl twitter.

Prior to Vtubing, multiple members were doing just >>1808931 except on NND.

>>1804037
You know there is a thing called tact. Overuse of the same joke type eventually becomes unfunny. Just look at female comedians who rely on the "my vagina" joke or western "adult" cartoons like "Magical Girl Friendship Squad". Lewd isn't bad, it's in the moderation that it's dispensed. If that is all you rely on when you've got nothing interesting to say, then you become a one-trick pony like Seth Rogen.

>vtubing already being destroyed by western roast beef sandwiches

>>1807927
>Vei
>burger
You guys just look at clips and make assumptions based on that

Vei's voice is just pure sex

>>1809810
blocks your path

>>1809930
Sorry I mean JP only, I know nothing about ID beyond their names, and I've only watched a few streams of EN.

>>1809887
Sorry for not knowing your spic oshi

>>1809441
HoloEN girls are purer than some of the JP girls
>Calli
Never initiates or partakes in lewd talk. Whenever the other girls do it, she is usually scolding them or disapproving
>Kiara
Only lewds other girls (mainly Calli). You will never hear her say "lol I would love to suck some dick" like the girl in OP.
>Ame
She's impure in the way that a 9 year old kid who thinks the number 69 and mom jokes are the be all end all of comedy.
>Gura
Ok, the sounds she made while doing ring fit were lewd, I'll give you this one.
>Ina
Purer than most JPs.

>>1810649
Accurate.

>>1810649
>He doesn't know

>>1810737
>someone posts something about any vtuber being lewd
>">He doesn't know"
Like clockwork. Never change, /vt/.

>>1803802
based, next thing you know they'll come after our sons for eating a woman out

if you bitch about women enjoying themselves during sex while sucking your dick... you might need some testosterones.

>>1810842
And you reply to that obvious bait... anonchama please ignore them

>>1810842
Never do archive reps, newtard.>>1810874

I's not about what you do, it's about why and with who.

>>1810842
He's referencing the nudes and lewd pics that kiara sold

Personally I'd be a happy father if my daughter could suck my son in law's dick until he's within inches of death spasming on the ground. Any kin of mine will know how to please the opposite sex.

>>1811078
>cosplaying is the same as going "lol I would love to suck some dick right now" on stream
Do you know how many JP girls cosplay? Let me guess, it's seiso when they do it because they're not white, right?

>>1811179
she has fucking ass shots.
exposing yourself to the world and talking about what the majority of women like to do, suck and fuck dick of people they like, are not even close to the same level. one is literal whore behavior while the other is just blunt honesty.

>>1811179
Based. Someone post timestamps of the Kiara video of her sucking a viewers virtual dick then crying about her mom watching it.

>>1811179
>Do you know how many JP girls cosplay?
Its not just cosplaying. I'm not gonna get banned for posting it but she was straight up selling nudes and almost nude pics.
None of the JP girls have ever done that.

I agree that talking about sucking dick on stream is horrible. I imagine Kiara would probably do the same thing if she was an indie.

>>1811380
>I imagine Kiara would probably do the same thing if she was an indie.
No, she actually did it already as a Hololive talent.

>>1810530
>Vei
>spic
He's on a roll tonight!

>>1811308
>>1811380
I went to Comiket and there were lots of asian women dressed in such skimpy outfits that you could see their asses just hanging out. I still respect those girls more than some roasties talking about sucking dick.

>>1804037
yes, and?

>>1811380
>I agree that talking about sucking dick on stream is horrible.
it's not ladylike but don't start clutching your pearls over it. she's an anonymous persona i take it -- look at what people post here anonymously -- so i don't see the point of being outraged over her blunt honesty. do you want a manufactured image now that we're divorced from the need to maintain image?

>>1805853
Based.

>>1811516
>roasties talking about sucking dick.
question: have you ever gone down on a woman? would you get pissed at a man for talking about having sex and going down on women? it's just human nature to enjoy sex, i see no reason to state reality.

>>1804277
She's there to provide contrast

>>1811602
It's roastie behaviour.

>>1806979
kys

>>1811602
enjoy sex, don't talk about it.
nobody cares about your experiences and on top of that it's a breach of privacy to the other person to publicly do so.

>>1811669
why? would you be upset at your wife for wanting to suck your dick? would you be upset at your son for wanting to go down on a good girl? would you be upset at your daughter for wanting to suck the dick of a nice guy in town?

why would you want a woman who doesn't enjoy sex? you do realize if you can't give it she'll find it somewhere else, right?

>>1811762
ok vei

>>1811602
Part of what makes sex fun is that is ISN'T a boring conversation piece.

>>1809822
This.
Also I don't give a shit if they talk about bfs, exes, or whatever.
Just no niggers

>>1811807
cope posting now huh

>>1811762
I would be upset at my wife if she talked about loving to suck dick in front of thousands of men.

>>1811762
Are you brand new to weeb culture or something? We're neck to neck with islam when it comes to expectations of chastity in women.

Vei has really embraced being a piece of trash huh

>>1811874
better than the cringe posting you're doing

>>1811886
Have you seen Moona? We blow Muslims right out of the water.

>>1811737
yeah, i get it for a public person. 100%. it's a private matter, sacred even to a good amount of religions, between, ideally, two people.
but this is an anonymous person.

as an example i wouldn't go out in public and say all the shit i say here, it would be disrespectful to everybody else just trying to enjoy their day and needlessly politicize the environment as well as make it uncomfortable. but as an anonymous poster? why the fuck not?
it's antithetical to the entire point of this site to want to silence people and their unfiltered thoughts. the main draw, for me, to v-tubers, is the removal of the person's need for privacy and filters -- in a way it's replicating the best aspects of personhood, namely a constant character, face, and voice, with the best aspects of anon, namely a character that can be walked away from at any moment, customizable face, and unfiltered voice.

>>1811949
I don't know anything about moona other than her being from holoID

>>1811535
>>1811602
If you want to listen to some whore talk about sex then just watch literally and 3dpd on twitch. They all do this.
Vtubing at first was special because it was a form of content where you could escape that bullshit. Too bad indies ruined it, hence why I don't watch shitty indies.

>would you get pissed at a man for talking about having sex and going down on women?
Men have to earn sex by being attractive and using charisma to talk to women. Women just have to exist and spread their legs. You don't brag about being a whore because its easy to be a whore and its also gross because your only value is derived from a wet sticky hole between your legs.

>would you be upset at your daughter for wanting to suck the dick of a nice guy in town?
Yes. You are a cuck and a horrible father if you wouldn't be. I hope you never have kids.

>why would you want a woman who doesn't enjoy sex? you do realize if you can't give it she'll find it somewhere else, right?
Sex is fine as long as you do it with your committed partner/spouce. Again, if your only priority in life is sex then you are a disgusting person.

>>1811963
She shaved her pubes on stream. Her fanbase is called Mooafiqs (which is a pun about a type of heretic in Islam).

>>1812040
Isn't Indonesia a muslim country? Are any of the HoloIDs muslims?

>>1811886
yeah, it encourages chasity, but the thing is islam actually encourages a healthy sex life. technically you have to be able to please every wife you take on, this is the main justification for most muslim countries making it so hard to have multiple wives.
i found this hard to believe personally but a sizable amount of islamic thought even allows masturbation outright, given it's not consuming you or addictive. beyond that most schools of thought, iirc, allow it in extreme cases, such as a lack of a wife, a need to not commit adultery, etc.

of course mudlsimes don't always follow islam as written, and you have shithole towelhead terrorists making sure to blow off the head of anyone who even touches a dick.

>>1812095
>technically you have to be able to please every wife you take on
>a sizable amount of islamic thought even allows masturbation outright
What the fuck I love islam now

>>1812078
Indonesia is 85% Muslim, according to Google. I think Pavola is of a more traditional one? Not sure.

>>1811974
>If you want to listen to some whore talk about sex then just watch literally and 3dpd on twitch. They all do this.
>Vtubing at first was special because it was a form of content where you could escape that bullshit.
i don't though. i'm here for honesty, not hypersexualized women who think it's great to talk about sex with their real face, or whores who think it's great to talk about taking a line of dick every day.
i wouldn't want to be friends with someone who talks about sex publicly. but yet here i am on this site full of people who talk about sex openly -- the nuance is we don't have our entire person here. it's fine to talk about sex when your personhood is divorced from your voice.

you idol fags with your obsession over not allowing women to be human are just the horseshoe to the faggots who want women to be sex objects.

>>1812239
This isn't a hard formula. They make money with a parasocial relationship. Talking about boyfriends or sucking dick ruins that dynamic, and their fans feel sleighed because of it.

>>1812158
this isn't always followed though. i would be a muslim/respect muslims if they could actually follow what they preach, but there's too much decadence in that religion.
just look at all the towelheads blowing themselves up.

it is an interesting topic of discussion though, some major schools of thought even say the whole multiple wives thing is thought to be only allowable when women otherwise can't find a man -- here's some context around the verse saying a man should only have one wife lest he can prove capable of treating all equally:
>It is believed these Verses were revealed after the Battle of Uhud, in which many Muslim men were killed, leaving widows and orphans. Thus, many argue that these Verses have been revealed "because of Allah's concern for the welfare of women and orphans who were left without husbands and fathers who died fighting for the Prophet and for Islam. It is a verse about compassion towards women and their children; it is not about men or their sexuality."

muhamad himself is also a topic of discussion. some argue he took on so many wives for political and charitable reasons, others argue he could love them all and wanted them all. personally i lean towards the political side as well as him just being a horny bastard.

>>1812040
what the fuck

>>1812239
>not hypersexualized women who think it's great to talk about sex, or whores who think it's great to talk about taking a line of dick every day
You are defending a girl who did just that.

>but yet here i am on this site full of people who talk about sex openly
Read my post again. Men doing it is different from women doing it because it is hard for men to have sex, but incredibly easy for women to have sex. A woman bragging about how much sex she has is analogous to a junkie bragging about how much heroin he was able to shoot up into his veins.

>it's fine to talk about sex when your personhood is divorced from your voice
You're a faggot if you want vtubers to ruin the comfy vibe of streams by talking about having sex with other men and boyfriend shit. Like, why would you want to listen to a girl talk about that all day??
Even if you aren't urked by it, sex jokes get old incredibly fast.

>you idol fags with your obsession over not allowing women to be human are just the horseshoe to the faggots who want women to be sex objects.
Isn't it more liberating to like women for their value outside of sex?? The world is just becoming more depressing, disgusting, and depraved because women talk about sex openly and have sex with whoever they want.
Is it so much to ask that we have at least some avenue that isn't a constant reminder of how shitty and depraved the world is? I just want to watch my oshis.

>>1808931
Some indies are ok.

>>1812078
they're less blow-up muslims and more spiritual muslims iirc. as in the vast vast majority frown upon polygamy and practice moderate islam.

>>1812538
You are so fucking pathetic jesus christ

>>1812504
What? Problem?

Vtuber of the streets

>>1812538
>You are defending a girl who did just that.
where did she say she'd suck off anyone? and context my friend, when you're screaming about fucking women in the public square you aren't based and redpilled, when you scream about it on 4chan you are.
>Men doing it is different from women doing it because it is hard for men to have sex, but incredibly easy for women to have sex.
you aren't wrong but you're not right either. women expect more of a man before shagging with him, what the fuck is wrong with that? a woman can't like a nice guy's dick? really?
if anything it's actually one of the more virtuous things about women, in general, they have more of an emotional connection to the whole act, on average. or maybe it's better put that they need that emotional aspect more than a man does.
i'll even go so far as to say many of the negative aspects of current and past sexual culture go back to some men thinking with their dick -- ever wonder why men were less likely to pass on their genes for thousands of years? it's because a few literal dicks decided to rape around town and send off any newly born sons, or married men, to war so they could hurry up and die.

either way you can go fuck any whore at a bar. if you're such a degenerate fuck head that you can't flatter any of the 3.5 billion women on earth you can help us all out by never commenting on anything sexual ever again.
>You're a faggot if you want vtubers to ruin the comfy vibe of streams by talking about having sex with other men and boyfriend shit. Like, why would you want to listen to a girl talk about that all day??
no, i'm a humanist. i've felt like killing myself from a young age due to the burning desire to understand other humans being unquenched, that's part of why i'm on 4chan, because i can talk to people more honestly and hear more honest people. i've no desire for your fake e-whores giving out the GFE so you can roleplay in your head with her. but do what you want, someone will cater.
>isn't it more liberating to like women for their value outside of sex??
yes. which is why i have to ask why you care so much about a woman enjoying sex.
vast majority of humanity enjoys sex. and you know what i love about sex? the person i'm fucking. i genuinely can't get to ejaculation's with just anyone in my head or on my cock, the emotional aspect, their value outside of sex, directly impacts how sexually pleasing they are to me.

>Is it so much to ask that we have at least some avenue that isn't a constant reminder of how shitty and depraved the world is

women enjoying sex is not depravity. you should be happy.

you know what happens when a woman doesn't enjoy sex?

she goes around town trying to fill the hole she feels.

the world, and women in general, would be a much better place if women could enjoy sex more.

>>1812967
>the world, and women in general, would be a much better place if women could enjoy sex more.
...Nine months later...

>>1812538
>>1812967
oh also, to elaborate on why you should be happy:
when women can find a good man to love why should you be upset? emotionally broken women trying to find meaning through riding a cock carousel isn't the same as a mentally sound woman loving the cock of her husband.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15004563/
>Men are generally more interested in and responsive to visual sexually arousing stimuli than are women. Here we used functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) to show that the amygdala and hypothalamus are more strongly activated in men than in women when viewing identical sexual stimuli. This was true even when women reported greater arousal.
in other words: a normal woman enjoying cock is indicative of her really loving someone. be happy and thank the world that normal happy couples can still exist, celebrate it.

>>1813044
better sex = better lover
better lover = better sex
let all women get pregnant if they're able to magically find good lovers. much better than the shit we have going on now with broken men and women.

>>1813124
Modern women can have up to, upwards of, 200 sex partners, and not even know most of their names. Do things seem like they improved?

>>1813163
no, they're not improved, because they go around town searching to fill the hole they feel. romance novels do so well with women because the best sex a healthy woman will ever have is with a good man who loves them.
i'm not saying women should go fuck around like some men do, i'm saying it'd be better for everyone if women were allowed to enjoy themselves more in the bedroom -- if they could have more good men to fuck with.

>>1813219
Everything in the bedroom is already about the woman. Guess how I know you're a virgin?

>>1803802
Fuck you for using Subaru to bait me into watching some roastie's clip

>>1803971
true, also cringe af

>>1813238
>He doubted Subaru.
ngmi

>>1813236
https://www.healthywomen.org/content/article/new-survey-most-women-are-not-satisfied-their-sex-lives

It's literally all about the guy. Some women don't even know what a female orgasm feels like. You're part of the problem if you think sex is just fucking a hole for however long and then being done with the whole thing.

>>1813282
>keep killing your ability to pair bond
>"buy why does it keep getting worse! it must be the men!"

since i don't watch them i didn't know what people were schizoposting about, but actually yeah, at least the japanese ones dont reach THOSE levels of trashy vulgarity

>>1813302
You're repeating the same thing over and over again, much like the idiots who refuse to acknowledge how unhealthy hypersexuality among many partners is.
The key to fixing our issue isn't locking up the vagina like some fucking caveman it's getting the woman what she wants in the first place.

Would you sympathize with a man who fucks around town because his wife refuses to do anything he likes in bed? Then shut the fuck up and learn how to please a woman before you bitch about
>muh whores!
Regressive mindsets help nobody. Teaching men how to be men and have good sex does help a shit ton though.

>>1813385
The key is there isn't an issue. Women simply refuse to take responsibility for their own happiness, because men have given up on their bullshit.

>>1813425
You actually sound just as bad as the retards saying
>YASSSS QUEEEN GO GIRL POWER YASSSSS ALL MEN ARE PIGS!!!!
to a woman fucking five hundred men.

Only difference is your insanity isn't socially acceptable. Both of you jackasses deserve all the unhappiness you suffer, hopefully a loving person never finds your ass and has to put up with your melodramatic woe is me mindset that a woman can't enjoy her husbands cock. Frankly you'd have to be insane to marry anyone who doesn't enjoy sex with you -- I can't imagine being ill enough to think a lack of sexual interest is a virtue.

>>1813510
>You're terrible because you're not putting up with bullshit!
Okay, but, here we are, watching VTubers on /vt/, precisely BECAUSE modern women can't compete.

>>1813581
but they're modern women

>>1813624
Yes, that's right. We're in a modern age filled with modern women.

>>1813385
nobody cares about all this argument, her sex life is private, she can keep it where it belongs, in the bedroom
fucking schizos will tell you "but what happens in the bedroom doesn't concern you" when you ask faggots to fix their mental illness but will nonetheless condone people putting their intimate life on display

>>1813649
women's sexuality is a genuine crisis in the west. more than ever we need healthy discussions about a woman's sexual life.
if you want the divorce rate to fall and to find some mad bitches you will condone v-tubers talking honestly about their sexual desire.

yes, i unironically think this and purposefully highlighted how absurd it sounds in part because it's funny but also in part because it highlights how fucked up sex is right now in the west. the more women we have satisficed with their husbands the better everybody is, especially our next generation. this includes unlearning the ridiculous female empowerment idea of riding as many cocks as possible.

>>1813757
crisis in the east too. in some ways even worse.

>>1813757
>women need even MORE help
No. Gig's up.

>>1813757
sexuality in general is a crisis in the west and no, some girl on twitch talking about how she wants to suck dick doesn't accomplish anything and is undesirable, it's not a healthy discussion
the healthy discussion would be women teaching their husbands how to please them instead of bitching behind their backs on polls

What if your oshi said this?

>>1813624
The important thing is they actually put on a persona of femininity and charm. They can be as unfeminine irl as they want. What matters is their vtuber persona has what the vast majority of women today lack. This shit didn't just spring up in a vacuum. Men, myself included obviously, fell into vtubers because we are receiving things we aren't getting irl.

>>1813870
People who refuse the probability of their oshi having sucked some penis before at least once in their lives are just setting themselves up for disappointment. They're human fucking beings.

>>1803802
>western roastie humor
>benis and bagina xDDDDDD

>>1813832
i'm saying men need help through women dropping the innocent pure maiden act, dumb dumb. when a woman isn't satisfied i want her to say it, when she wants to suck a cock i want her to be able to suck her man's cock.

if she wants to ask a man out let her. i'm sick of this bullshit little boy fantasy of the porcelain doll woman looking pretty in your house. let her be beautiful and care about her looks, but also let it be a healthy accepted thing for a woman to enjoy her lover's cock, even be a whore for it.

>>1813876
>Men, myself included obviously, fell into vtubers because we are receiving things we aren't getting irl.

>>1813902
>No, just help women again!
No. What part of, "the gig is up," did you not understand? No more help. It's been decades of this handholding so they can "become" something better. It never materialized, in any facet of their lives (romantically, educationally, in the family, anywhere). It's on them now, if they can't make something happen.

>>1813906
god I can't stand people who don't treat vtubers as entertainment, please shoot yourself in the head and WAKE THE FUCK UP. They don't like you, they don't want you, they aren't real, stop lying to yourself, whenever you go past the bounds of entertainer and entertained is when you dive yourself into mental illness.

>>1813906
Oh you haven't escaped it either my dude. If you did you wouldn't even be here

>>1813946
Based. In the end, all you are to them is a customer.

>>1813946
>implying a Geisha can't entertain me
Just because it's a fantasy of a relationship doesn't mean it's not entertaining. Go suck eggs.

>>1813385
>Would you sympathize with a man who fucks around town because his wife refuses to do anything he likes in bed?
Is the answer you're expecting yes? I dunno what the fuck is going on, but who the fuck would answer yes to that? If you're married, you've given up your right to fuck around. If the wife was so bad in bed, maybe you should have considered that before the whole until death do us apart business. Or alternatively, maybe you shouldn't have fucked around so much before marriage that anyone but the most experienced prostitute falls short.

>>1813888
the world would be a better place if we could think upon our mother and father, or friend and friend, having fun as a good thing to celebrate, not a dirty act to recoil in disgust at.
hell, romans were pretty fucking based in this regard, making sure their women were pleased and not giving a fuck about their mother having sex.

sure, keep it sacred and private, but a kid should be happy to know his mother enjoys his father, not disgusted and think of her as a whore.

>>1813958
Yes, I was echoing it. My gif didn't attach for whatever reason.

>>1813961
That's true for all modern relationships now. Something like 30% of women date just to get free food.

>>1813967
The only relationship you have with her is viewer and entertainer. When you cross those boundaries and lie to yourself, then you truly need to commit suicide or go speak to a therapist.

>>1813990
>dude, roman's based
They fed people to wild animals, anon, and raped women on the side of the road continuously.

>>1813999
>ha ha, just kys
Nah, I'll keep living, just to spite you, roastie.

>>1814011
>and raped women on the side of the road continuously
desu any army tends to have people doing that

>>1814011
may I dare say, based?

>>1813968
I would agree with you but honestly I have sympathy for the man. At that point it's clear he isn't having his most basic desires met in the relationship. Likewise I have sympathy for the woman.

Should they have not married in the first place? 100%.
Should there be some social stigma around the resulting divorce? 100%, don't marry if it's not till death do us part.

Nonetheless we're all human, and some of us are pretty fucking dumb or mean. Not everybody can have a nice lover in this life... and many of those who won't have a nice lover will find themselves a bad partner anyway.

>>1814025
Keep lying to yourself, I won't get mad because somebody else in this world is a dumass.

>>1814047
You sound mad.

>>1814054
Ogey

>>1814054
Maybe he is. If tomorrow you decapitate yourself infront of my child I'd be pissed, but in the end I'd pity you more than anything else.

If you shoot yourself in the foot to spite a caring stranger you're a genuine retard.

Birth control is the real culprit anyway.
Pollutes our water with massive quantities of hormones, increases cancers and cardiovascular diseases, lets women get away with being whores instead of making efforts to build tomorrow's society.

>>1814040
You can wank you know. Or file a divorce. Or be a progressive and suggest an open relationship to your wife.

>>1814099
This. Honestly. Imagine if women didn't have birth control, we'd be able to tell who's a whore or not. Our oshis would actually be pure

>>1814084
Well, good thing I'm NOT going to shoot myself after she demanded it, huh?

>>1814118
>Kiara is on birth control for acne.
Hmmm.

>>1814040
You want to fix relationships? I mean, really fix them? Make marriage illegal.

>>1814128
> she?
Must be a woman because he isn't mentally insane in loving a fake girl.
Anon, you're hurting yourself by lying to yourself.

>>1814099
not 100% wrong but not 100% right either. BC is flawed but it's ability to allow sex is not why we have the modern problems we have, condoms allowed men and women to fuck around town since ancient egypt.

>>1814184
>unreliable birth control allowed anything on the macro scale
no

>>1814128
sometimes you need a wakeup call through people being mad at you. someone saying you should get mental health and not engage in mental illness is, at the end of the day, upset because you're hurting yourself and hurting him as well as his hobby because of it.

>>1814176
I called her a she because she demanded I kill myself for not helping women for another decade.

>>1814205
>sometimes you need a wakeup call through people being mad at you.
see: >>1814054
So you were mad after all? Okay.

>>1804846
Ina has definitely been dicked before. She had a boyfriend and they are most likely still together.

>>1814263
WTF i hate K-Ina-ra now?

>>1814198
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_control#History
society has been trying to help women with birth control since some of it's earliest forms.
this idea that birth control is purely for modern women to whore around directly contradicts these societies, which did not want women fucking around town, trying to keep birth from happening as a result of sex.

you're kinda cringe if you want to have eleven kids or some dumb shit to really own the libs

>>1814304
>you're kinda BASED if you want to have eleven kids
Fix'd.

>>1814228
that's not me.
i personally don't really care what you do.
only reason im here is people like you are trying to shit on a type of v-tuber i like, the honest kind. i have no issue with your idol perfect princess v-tuber existing, i'll even enjoy some of them because it's possible for women to not be comfortable talking about sex. still going to prefer my honest queen sucking a mean cock.

>>1814323
Why would I want to bring in one more whore to this world?

>>1814323
having zero kids is almost the same level of cringe as popping those fuckers out like nothing. atleast with the latter you pass on and get to experience the joys of parenthood, but jesus christ it might be better to have you out of the gene pool.

What's disgusting is she didn't get the reference

>>1814341
>Kiara is honest.
She's a narcissistic gaslighter, and so are you.

>>1813757
No, the real problem is that the west has become pure self-indulgencey. Sex is a thing that should be shared between two people that have a connection, but instead you have women who fuck experienced/manipulative men who are older than them at a young age because of 'sexual freedom' and are in turn broken by the system. The men abusing the system take some of the blame, but they are much in that same self-indulgent lifestyle. The mentality of people looking to the future has taken a nosedive and doompauling is at an all-time high leading to stupid, rash decisions causing personal financial crisis, suicide rates to go up, overdosing to go up, unwed mothers to go up, sleezy guys to go up, etc. You can run it back to the idea that suddenly 'housewife' was a bad term and that every woman who didn't have a job and stayed home to raise the family was an abuse victim (some of them were). Cue more labor in the workforce, lower paying jobs because labor pool is bigger, women focusing on career/self more than family/self leading to later marriages, poorly raised children due to being brought up purely through public education and no one at home ever, failing love life because no time for personal achievements because too much to do after work at home to keep up, and fucked up kids repeating what they learned from their parents causing skyrocketing divorce rates.
In the end, a lot of guys are using this as a coping mechanism because they are disillusioned by the current climate and treatment of males in relationships, so instead of fighting through it to try and make something work, they take the easy and selfish way out of getting an Oshi and watching her every day. When they hear their fictitious wife talk about how they want to go fuck some other guy it breaks the illusion that they are here for them (the audience as individuals) and makes them mad.

>>1814350
>>1814373
>No, don't have kids!
Funny how you're fine with "sexual freedom" or whatever, but not the freedom to be a mother.

>>1814419
>tfw no mother VTuber

>>1814413
holy living fuck, incredibly based. sad reality

Sorry bros, I didn't realize Vei's fondness for my cock would cause such a stir...

>>1814304
>doesn't answer the point that modern birth control has previously mentioned list of effects that ancient forms didn't have
>"own the libs"

I hate her voice

>>1803802
Anyone got a mirror? Twitch doesn't work properly for me, for some reason, and im curious.

>>1814413
174pbp
I wouldn't ALWAYS call it an easy way out though. Take me for instance. I am 27. I live in the Southern US and the women here are hot garbage. Single moms, trailer trash, feminists, you name it. I'm degreed, will have my JD in two years, have a variety of interests, Christian, on paper (and irl imo) I am prime marriage potential.

But, all 2 of the good women got married at 21, the rest either don't believe in it or are hot garbage. Nevermind we had this whole covid nonsense keeping even my state pretty locked down and keeping me from even seeing my class mates for a whole goddamn year. There are no good women here.

As for why I'm not married now if I'm so good? I WAS engaged but the woman cheated. Obviously a bullet dodged but as it is vtubers are about my only option for the time being

>>1814601
All it is is a woman saying "I just kinda like to suck dick every once in a while".

>>1814601
she says she likes sucking dick

>>1814458
see
>>1814184
>not 100% wrong but not 100% right either. BC is flawed
there are genuine issues with modern birth control but it's not that it ruins women by enabling women to be massive whores, atleast most women.

>>1814650
>>1814660
Eh, I mean, I'm fine with it. She shouldn't, and the fags defending it ITT, expect people to watch her when most people watch VTubers for the opposite behavior.

>>1814686
There's actually a VTuber that goes into deep science as to why modern BC hurts women, and I'm not talking popsci, but an actual science VTuber. You'll hate her, though, because she "owns the libs."

>>1814643
You tried, it failed, and you are unwilling to try again. It goes against biology and is an easy psychological way out. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you feel x way, because I can't be certain and can only make the assumption that the cheating left some issues there. Isn't it just nice to come home, turn on your Oshi's stream, here her say nice things to you (and the chat collective) and listen to her laugh/smile and talk to you when you donate? It's in the same realm as Waifufagging (which I've been in for 10 years) and has all of the same traps and pitfalls that waifufagging does with the added money issue for those who can't control their spending/wallet.

>>1814696
the chat replay is full of people on the same wavelength as her either laughing or ironically posting cringe emotes. it's not really drama within her own community as far as i am aware, so don't worry, this wasn't some v-tuber suddenly becoming sexual out of nowhere, this is someone who previously made this part of her personality that the fans are fully aware of.

>>1814686
dissociating sex from the need to be a responsible adult with a stable life is clearly a problem

>>1814757
I don't worry, and I don't care. Also...
>Twitch.

>>1814724
i don't dislike the right wing, i just dislike some elements of modern right wing/extremism being pushed. honestly i have no clue what the hell i am anymore but i've made it clear i find massive issue with women sleeping around like nothing and non stable family units.
i'd love a link. i already have bias against modern birth control due to the obvious reality of all those hormones but it'd be nice to have some more factual understandings of it.

>>1814650
>>1814660
Kind of what I was expecting given the tone of the thread and platform. Thanks guys.

>>1814787
>i don't dislike the right wing, i just dislike some elements of modern right wing/extremism being pushed. honestly i have no clue what the hell i am anymore but i've made it clear i find massive issue with women sleeping around like nothing and non stable family units.
I don't care about you.
>link
Sure, no problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KET2JncpJ7o

>>1814899
Freaking love Aydin but not sure I'd call her a vtuber.
Guys she is definitely worth a watch. She's done actual science, knows stats, and everything

>>1803802
You know it's a damn shame because she has an amazing voice.

>>1814756
I get what you're saying but some places really don't have good women around. Travel around the US if you're there, you'll see what I men.
All I'm saying is it isn't always just a case of some guy taking the easy way out. I don't doubt it is for a lot here though. Decades of broken homes and all the other problems discussed here have worn down the average man.

>>1814967
a person would never cherry pick statistics and numbers specifically to advance an agenda no way no how

>>1812040
Holy shit proof?

>>1815497
https://streamable.com/arinck

>>1815159
Remember that your Oshi will never berate you on things you are self conscious about. Your Oshi will never complain about something you do (unless you're creeping on her a lot). Your Oshi can be turned on and off at your willing. There is 0 difficulty other than money, which is self-imposed, in having your Oshi tell you she enjoys your (the chat collective) company. If you start dating again to find 'the one' everything becomes infinitely more complex even if you find 'the perfect girl'.

>>1815195
Are you fucking dumb? Her videos are chock full of sources. Go read them and argue them on their merits yourself.

>>1812040
>which is a pun about a type of heretic in Islam
munafiq means hypocrite

>>1816141
Wasnt it particularly used for people who states their religion is Islam despite not really following its rules, kinda like christians?

>>1814899
>>1815673
right, i just finished it.
and after hearing "sargon of akkad" at the end i just had to look more into it! i fell into the /pol/ trap while a teenager so i take anything attatched to le shadilay with some skepticism... and...
/threads/aydin-paladin-rebekah-erin-bekah-ford-sybyll-adastra-starsybyll.43104/
she's a batshit insane woman posting nudes online while being a lolcow.
but back to substance:
she seems to have somewhat of a point but... it reminds me of pseuoscience with the whole lead-in-pipes-caused-rome-to-fall kind've bit -- i don't think studies can properly predict the incredible complexity that is human relationships and society, especially when we're talking about humans chemically altered and, ergo, not subject to the same laws of evolution we'd expect to see a bias towards.
that and the whole "i'm a men's rights!!!! i LOVE sargon of akkad and count dankula!!!!" is a huge red flag... sargon of akkad and his buddies are the geniuses behind the whole kraut and tea saga and the embarrassment that was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TC7ger5hOI

in general reducing humans and society at large to chemical interactions is fucking retarded and done by myopic sometimes autistic academics or tards.

>>1803802
Don't use Subaru for your garbage thread.
Kill yourself.

>>1816245
behold, the genius skeptic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaf5GJRIrfY

>>1816245
So, in general, your counter-argument isn't scientific or logical, you simply attack the person.

>>1816245
>KFP defends a crazy bitch.
>KFP hates this one.
Hmm.

>>1816381
well heres the thing, i was almost completely with her through the video but had some minor red flags and a minor depressing feeling that "life can't be that simple... right? well atleast for some people... right?", but, in general, i was ready to accept the conclusion.
then i saw fucking sargon of akkad at the end and like seeing a flat earther just knew a massive fucking red flag was erected.
so i looked. and my minor red flags? not so minor anymore.

here's the thing lad: it's easy to cherry pick and then make a convincing argument using your data. someone could even use the exact same data and make a convincing video arguing the opposite of her with tricks, sophistry, etc.

the whole massively insane woman with a fucked up life and sense of self only is the cherry on top showing me why she wanted to make this video.

fool me once shame on you and all that -- growing up on the internet made me buy into islamic rhetoric, socialist rhetoric, conservative rhetoric, and yes, briefly, even flirtation with NatSoc; when you go through that many explorations of ideology you learn to have a critical eye for all the manipulation tactics they employ to get you in.

>>1816475
>I just FELT she was wrong.

>>1816447
i'm not kfp though and called kiara more whorish than the v-tuber in the OP. being a normal woman who likes sex isn't the same as posting softcore porn and ass pics online.

>>1816508
>Dude, posting about sex is wrong. I just want more rampant sex.

>>1816503
>perma-banned from academia for downplaying the Holocaust
I gave her the benefit of the doubt and then researched who she is. I'm trying to find a response video to see if somebody else more knowledgeable than me has already deconstructed her fallacies and ill points.

You don't have to know quantum physics to be skeptical of flat earthers, neither do I have to be a biologist to be critical of a fringe theorist with a history of serious mental health issues and sexual promiscuity as well as illness.

>>1816542
>I can just FEEL it.

>>1816554
Well, no. As stated she's a laughing stock of the scientific community. Even /pol/ makes fun of her. I sat through the whole Kraut & Tea Trout saga so I know she can't be too good at biology after that massive fuck up.
If you fuck up constantly I'm not going to trust you. Neither will any other rational people. The fact nobody cares or bothers with her, and that you have these pathetic coping responses, speaks volumes. She's a washed up whore exiled from academia and even /pol/ who has mental breakdowns, BPD, shit tons of ex boyfriends, autism, part of the men's rights movement, PTSD, part of the skeptic crowd -- etc.
Like I said, fully willing to trust the video at first and then investigate it. Did just that. Maybe find some sane and well adjusted people to base your inceldom on.

>>1816654
If you want to see your queen get 'demolished' by someone willing to actually check her go ahead and watch mr onions drink basedkaf destiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxGJ67VXGXI

>>1811380
Noel literally shows her massive tits off and does videos in her bra and panties all the time. Learn to do reps anon.

>>1816692
please don't post destiny on my virtual youtubers board

>>1816692
>Des mios des TINY.

>>1816779
i'm sorry but we have to talk about mr limpwrist epically owning incel idolfag's alt right white nationalist bpd e-whore lolifag crazy men's rights autistic waifu
you might lack the iq but trust me, this is very important to the discussion of virtual anime girls

>>1816767
anon... i just jerked it...

>>1814263
Ina barely has time to even be a vtuber. She's a professional artist who draws constantly and has a ton of backlog on art she owes. Not only that, she's an awkward neet weirdo who lives with her parents still. Yeah anon, I'm sure she's totally getting plowed as we speak.

>>1816830
I'm not the retard you were posting the video for, save your buzzwords for them

>>1816912
yeah no shit, l2r

>>1816922
sorry I gave up reading halfway through because you type like a spaz

>>1804013
yes

>>1816956
l2r & dil8

>>1816912
>>1816956
sir this is a no whining zone

>>1814724
>You'll hate her, though, because she "owns the libs."
Above is anon caring about him.
>>1814899
>I don't care about you.
Above is anon showing how he doesn't care about him.

And below we wonder why anon is preaching /pol/ shit Incel posting on /vt/ and why Anon can't find a woman willing to have sex with him.

>>1817027
>"ha ha YOU'RE AN INCEL FAGGOT!"
>anon screamed on /vt/, of all places

>>1803802
You seem to be a bit oblivious so I'll just inform you. You do not ever want to be with a woman who is unwilling to suck dick. Be thankful to sluttubers for teaching young women that they should want to suck dick.
Also, holos will never be based enough to play vtmb.
Also, stop using Subaru to shitpost you faggot.

>>1814099
>Birth control is the real culprit anyway.
>Pollutes our water with massive quantities of hormones, increases cancers and cardiovascular diseases, lets women get away with being whores instead of making efforts to build tomorrow's society.

Fuck off idolfags

>>1817041
>>"ha ha YOU'RE AN INCEL FAGGOT!"
>>anon screamed on /vt/, of all places

>>1817174
>>1817198
>>1817205

>>1812538
have sex

>>1815530
charge rifle

>>1817217
I hate the retarded wojack faggot but this thread needs to be nuked. It's turned into /r9k/ incel retardation

>>1817258

>>1817258
Nah you can't fight cancer till you know you have it and chemo is great at killing cancer. It is way too early in this board's history to just ignore a problem like this and we should actively confront and ridicule these retards.

Purity fags are mentally ill

>>1804037
>I want my Chuubas to be completely free to do whatever they want and express themselves however they want!
I don't even remotely want this. I watch Hololive rather than nijis or western regular twitch streamers precisely BECAUSE they're less free to express themselves. It creates an experience tailored to the viewer that most talents can't be trusted to make themselves comply and/or care about

>>1817303
And I'm even more ill for trying to 'help' them.

>>1817328
>I watch Hololive rather than nijis or western regular twitch streamers precisely BECAUSE they're less free to express themselves. It creates an experience tailored to the viewer that most talents can't be trusted to make themselves comply and/or care about
can somebody load a bullet into my head, i'm ready to do the whole next thing or next lack of thing after reading this

>>1817288
>>1817303
>>1817329

>>1817329
Most people learn to ignore them because there is no point arguing with someone so ideological. Just look at what this turned into, it's not even about vtubers for them.

>regularly horny post
>get angry when women act horny

>I will save you from those awful men by posting memes, my lady.
>*tips fedora*

>>1804037
>I want my Chuubas to be completely free to do whatever they want and express themselves however they want!
no one wants this

>>1817385
Women shouldn't express their interest in sexual acts...because they just shouldn't!

>>1817421
They'll never fuck you bro

this thread proving once again that hololive is the only redeeming part of this board

>>1817378
I should really let that post of yours be the end of this thread entirely, but I feel reservedly obliged to say there's a lot of teens on this site who'll hopefully grow out of it or start to challenge their views on it.
The whole rise of Q-Anon, WN, Incels, etc, spirals from a lack of actually taking these guys' points seriously -- some say they deserve no platform but honestly that just makes teens flock to them. I think honest conversations are important at the very least for people watching this board/4chan in general. I don't think these fringe groups are all that hard to understand the existence of when normal people program themselves to shut off engagement with said crazies -- you say it's a waste of time and Joe Schmoe has better things to do so he just stops the conversation. Another win for the loser talking about how women deserve to be in dog houses.
So much of their narrative is completely believable considering the shitfest of a world we find ourselves in. Especially when you consider how coincidental it would be for most pf the right people in history to win and all the bad people to lose, in the last couple hundred years.

>>1817353
I'll do it myself you archaic faggot. Partially organized network entertainment is a precious commodity. If you wanna watch someone "free", there are tens of thousands of youtubers and twitch streamers readily available for you, and there were for years upon years before vtubing was even a concept. I don't get your desire to see the same exact thing but with an anime facerig as if that makes hardly any difference.

>>1817397
>>I will save you from those awful men by posting memes, my lady.
>>*tips fedora*

>>1817514
>mad

>>1817497
>I don't get your desire to see the same exact thing but with an anime facerig as if that makes hardly any difference.
You don't see how these personalities are any different than your random e-thot? There's a whole selection process plus the dynamic of them having real anonymity allowing them more freedom to be themselves, no longer tied to being used for their bodies.

It's no coincidence Clover picks these girl's with sad pasts... These girls have empathy and Clover knows they'll do well at creating emotional bonds with viewers that exceeds horniness or retarded idolfags.
In other words there's something like a quality ensurance with a Holo that you can't find everywhere. And I fail to see why someone mentally sound would tune into a Watame stream and decide that is the best place to simulate having a girlfriend, jesus fucking christ.

>>1817525
i looked into that file's history and jfc you should actually seek mental health support.

>>1817601
>i looked into that file's history

holy shit this thread is full of incels.

yeah keep hating them they will totaly suck your dick next

>>1817563
I agree with that you speedreader, read the rest of the chain

>>1817620
>Given that Haatons have stitched-up necks, I'm pretty sure that either Haachama gets a soft reboot or is graduated. A hard reboot might as well be a graduation, and I can't see a compromise to continue the channel as-is with these new rules in place.
>>1295827
>Some parents who have a daughter or son that's a Haaton, who committed suicide, can point to Haachama and be like "You are the reason our child is dead! We're suing you and your company's ass to the ground in damages!"
>The lewd and cooking shit wasn't taken down, so I assume that it was only the violent imagery, not the sexual/filthy imagery, that got the cut. I have a feeling that Hololive's going down the slippery slope of censorship now, though, and they WILL eventually go after the sexual imagery as well.

>>1817709
>>1817601
So the resident samefagging incel is also a kid. Imagine my shock.

>>1817709
Those aren't even me. lmao Since you hate Haachama, have a pic.

>>1817745
>They work that way NOW. Freedom is dead, and the slogan, "Freedom isn't free," killed it.
>>HOMONYM
>The fuck are you babbling about now, Jew?

>>1817761
You seem exceptionally upset. Perhaps you can't find a downvote button?

>>1817790
>You seem exceptionally upset. Perhaps you can't find a downvote button?

your waifus would all be ashamed of you

>>1817813
Imagine being afraid of the /pol/ boogeyman.

>>1817826
it's okay to be retarded in private

>>1817826
>>1817849
It's just the usual gatekeeping bullshit after they invade a space. They can't stand people with differing opinions.

>>1809869
Unironically this. And the worst part of it is that I warned them all about letting the West enter this market, but they didn't listen.

>>1817842
hey atleast you changed up your filenames :^)
an important lesson on 4channel for all new users is to not consistently use any file/filename.

now if you could fuck off that would be greaaaat.

>>1817866
It's only going to get worse. Mass public shaming of the original fans is underway. Won't be long until we get Western corporations and governments pushing for higher regulations to satisfy this new vocal cancellation group.

>>1817884
I actually don't care if you know which posts are mine. The randomness was a bonus, not a feature. More importantly. All you did was out yourself as a redditor and a shitheel that uses scare tactics.

>>1817888
>It's only going to get worse. Mass public shaming of the original fans is underway. Won't be long until we get Western corporations and governments pushing for higher regulations to satisfy this new vocal cancellation group.

>>1817899
well i can tell by looking at how you spergout, backtrack, and have issues with women that you wouldn't care. only people with something to lose give a shit.

>>1817914
>spergout, backtrack, and have issues with women
Now THIS is /pol/ rhetoric.

>>1817927
>>spergout, backtrack, and have issues with women
>Now THIS is /pol/ rhetoric.

>>1817937
>look ma i posted it again

Ban wojakposting with extreme prejudice.

>>1817941
>>look ma i posted it again

>>1817979
Wonder who "his" oshi is?

>>1817888
Chud who will die a virgin or become a failed mass shooter gunned down by blacks.

>>1818003
>Chud

>>1817397
>>I will save you from those awful men by posting memes, my lady.
>>*tips fedora*