/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Kizuna Ai will never die because she's much bigger than just youtube. Retards still judge her based in just youtube when they should look at the bigger picture of all the places where she's been.

>>1811916
>QUEEN OF VTUBERS
She's more of a mascot than a queen, just like Hatsune Miku

more like dethroned vtuber meets dethroned game

kizu.........

>>1811916
Uhhh, she's going to butt heads directly with https://www.playstation.com/ja-jp/local/competition/play-alive/2021-fall-guys-super-match/ ? She's going to start halfway through that tournament which is going to cut viewers if they're too lazy to switch or don't notice. Although if her tournament lasts afterwards, she can easily also siphon viewers that just got done watching the PS one.

Lineup announcement in 8 hours so it's time to see if it's going to have any chance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k94IzKU43Wk Just toss in some Holo members, grab some other Nijis and she's good to go. If she manages to drag in Kaf, 774, or some of the more popular indies she might even win.

>>1811916
I always fallow tha trands from Kazuna Ai.

>>1811916
Dead vtuber
Dead game
Like clockwork

This........ I was not expecting.

Ai isn't a vtuber anymore. She is like a virtual idol

inb4 Gura’s in and that’s why she’s been so busy lately. Her schedule doesn’t have the event days listed either.

Honestly, that's great that she's still sponsored this late in the game. She's doing better than mainstream rappers in America with these sorts of sponsorships.

>>1812282
Kizuna is already dead. Ai channel killed her and replaced her with a doppelganger.
Never forgive. Never forget.

Kneel.

>>1811916
Man she keeps bringing in surprising news lately. I still can't believe that she became a model for Valentino.

>>1813839
This. She will always matter as an example of what not to do as a vtuber company, but that is all. A mere cautionary tale.

>>1813839
Dunno why people keep repeating this shit when it was debunked in late 2019 and continuously debunked since then.

>>1811916
Why does she get this much merch when Hololive's bigger and more relevant than here?

>>1814903
Because she pandered jard to the normies during her peak, so she has quite the brand recognition specifically with people who don't really follow the scene

>>1814903
Maybe because they're not? Pre-2020, hololive was pretty much a nobody, and while they have made significant gains during 2020, they still fall behind Ai and nijisanji in terms of marketing power in the domestic market.

>>1815047
>Ai and nijisanji
I understand Ai, but how can a literal who group like Nijisanji could even compete with a big name like Hololive?

>>1815075
Hololive absolutely cornered the international market but Niji is still quite big in Japan

>>1815075
You really have no idea what the domestic market is like, do you? nijisanji is the biggest VTuber group in Japan; hololive couldn't compete and had to expand overseas (first China, then the West) to even get to where they are today.

>>1815160
>>1815125
But statistics show that Holos still have a Nip majority in terms of viewers though.

>>1815189
Where's my numbers?

>>1815235
Do your reps.

>>1815160
>hololive couldn't compete and had to expand overseas
You're fucking retarded, overseas expansion was part of the plan since the beginning, it's hilarious how poorly the yagoo 2019 conference has aged when he was talking about the wonders of the chinese markert and how well his partnership with bilibili was working

>>1814903
Hololive is more trendy and popular but has zero depth.

>>1815369
>zero depth.
How?

>>1812665
Nijisanji already sent 12 names for the play alive tournament, so they're probably not appearing in this one

>>1815306
Thats how most companies are, they only see the $$$ to be made from the Chinese market without realizing that most foreign companies will eventually get fucked over.
Foreign company becomes succesful in Chinese market -> fake controversy -> kick successful company out/ take over branch/ steal ip -> Chinese company takes their place.

>>1815848


Yes , you are right and Niji ( Virtural real) is next.

>>1815282
>claims that holo has bigger numbers
>not willing to show actual data

>my wife is going to play with my oshi
I am happy.

Not a single holo participating.

r8 roster

Here we go again

>>1820706
I’m surprised that there’s no Pikamee.

>>1820706
the viewer count dropped hard after no Hololive appeared. it's obvious why people tuned in in the first place. i was expecting Sora to join though because she retweeted the collab. at least Nijisanji had two reps.

>>1815848
Yagoo dodged a bullet by pulling out of Chiner

>>1820880
More like they saw the roster so left. No one cares about Hololive.

>>1820880
If Kotone was there, Sora would probably join in. Also, I dont think the drop is just about the holos. Most probably tuned in to see the entire roster. Hell some retard still remained to spam about not having a holo instead of leaving the stream

>>1820706
I literally only know four people in that picture.

>>1811916
the first sign that your game is dead is collabbing with v chubers
example : azur lane, shironeko tennis

>>1820706
About as good as it could've been with no holos and hardly any nijis, still a disappointment because of that though really
>>1821047
The fact that people like you are a majority on this board make me sick

>>1820706
>Meika
>Gatchaman V
>the Asano sisters
>Haneru
>Yuki Shirane
there's some vtubers I like involved at least

>>1820706
the dragon girl from MHA was turned into a vtuber?

>>1820706
>meika has completely abandoned his booba forma
why?

>>1821172
About as good as it could be without Holo/Niji is pretty apt. I’m hardly disappointed though, she has Honeystrap, Tamaki’s group, Tenkaiji/Meika/Mari, Ui/Life, 3 Nijis, Asano, Himehina, Ponpoko/Peanuts, and Kashikomari. That’s a pretty impressive lineup if you don’t have Holos or a lot of Nijis.

>>1820664
>simulcast on bilibili
Yeah, I see why

>>1821528
it finally makes sense now.

>>1814903
REPUTATION BUILD OVER THE YEARS.

Kizuna Ai aren't just regular streamer like Hololive. She is the brand herself and she doesn't have much dirty filth on her like Hololive experienced thus got liked by sponsors for advertisement.

She wouldn't die just for not having much views on Youtube because her market aren't just there and she's not relying heavily on this platform.

>>1815382
It doesn't have much foundation, look at how the state of their subscribers and views. Pandering hard on EOPs but they are slowly gone now, only watching clips.

>>1821425
i was actually expecting Kerin to join too. Ai-chan's stream could use some of his shenanigans. his rivalry with Domyoji was nice, too bad he has retired long ago.

>>1821528
>bilibili
Then I’m surprised that Mea or Nana isn't there

>>1811916
>channal
> AI's select Trand color
>Pink Suka

>>1820706
Other than Tamaki and Ui, I can't recognise a single chuuba in here.

>>1814869
Didn't her original VA post a video on YT confirming it? Or was the meaning of that something different, since it was kinda vague

>>1814903
Hololive is a grain of sand compared to Kizuna Ai, anon..

>>1824990
Dead rrat. Yes they did try to "replace" her, but the whole thing backfired and she never left her role. She even was given a higher position at the company so she has more say.

Good. If Kizuna AI can make it even despite the earlier issues that means other big vtubers potentially have similar longevity.
Anything that makes them stick around longer is good in my book.

>>1821651
She's not going to collab with Kerin after this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nwt-t_Z1MA

>>1820706
Choose your fighter, I main Peanuts-kun.

>>1820934
That's the one thing I wish every company did.

>>1826726
I'll put my money on Uge.

>>1820706
No Hololive? Shit event!

>>1821047
>>1824885
You say it almost as if you're proud of your ignorance/newfaggotry.

>>1827732
The event will be simulcasted on Bilibili

>>1827808
Should I be ashamed and begging my ancestors for forgiveness?

>>1815235
>>1817307
Numbers of last month on the picture. Although their data is measured by live viewers, which we know is somewhat flawed and don't actually show the full count. (eg in miko's case you can see that her youtube live viewers misses 1/3 on what we saw on her guerilla twitch ones)

>>1814903
She is still official Japanese tourism ambassador

>>1815848
Niji CN branch is still doing good

>>1828351
Yes.

>>1825252
rrat or not is a fact that she sounds different now.

>>1828588
as long as you are injecting money on their market you're good. But sometime you might stagnate or get in a big controversy, and then the chinese branch will no longer see the use in being your partner, yeeting you out.

>>1828531
The title of these charts are a mistranslation. It's "top watched live-streaming Japanese channels." Third party data collectors wouldn't have access to country breakdown since that's private data.

>>1829062
The only safeish way to do business in China is as a business partner, which is how Ichikara handles VirtualReal. They have a major stake in it and provide the tech but in actuality it's managed by bilibili.

>>1829179
there's no safe way to do business in china, but I agree having full control over the tech is fundamental, never fully trust your chinese "partner". It seems like holocn operated the same way, as in the end they still were able to block the branch from running away with their ips, forcing them to close it all down instead.

>>1827808
>So you're a vtuber fan? Name every vtuber.

>>1829830
Yes do it, name every one

>>1814903
Miles and money, brother.

>>1830116
You actually can't name every vtuber in existence? Your oshi would be devastated.

>>1830197
I'm not a vtuber fan.

>>1829830
If you can't even name some of the bigger names in the business you're not really a Vtuber fan, just a EOP clipfaggot.

>>1814116
Nozomi still is kizuna ai, retard.

>>1828531
>>1829149
The other misleading thing about this chart is that they don't count vod watch time either, even though that would require private data too, it still makes up a huge amount of hours watched.

>>1829830
If you can't name some of the biggest ones you're just a hololive eop trash

>>1811916
>Fallguys think this will bring people back
>Kizuna's suits think this will bring people back

>>1832292
hey it reminds people kizuna exists and shes got enough actual fans to say "this is what actually happened" so it has a solid chance of working out

>>1820706
>No virtual gorilla
I sleep

>>1832292
THey don't need to "bring people back". Kizuna Ai is much more than just her channel.

>>1811916
GURABROS, WTF?

>>1832439
Yeah she's a brand for selling shit first and a vtuber second

>>1832439
>this is what doehard Aifags actually believe

>>1832369
He only excels on playing Apex

>>1820880
>>1821047
>>1824885
>>1827732
>>1813839
the absolute state of this board, fresh of the boat clipniggers

>>1833169
It's a sad state of affairs, but current new VTuber fans weren't around in the OG era, so of course they wouldn't have any respect for them.

>>1833986
I agree, lets complain over in jp

>>1812512
This unironically

Ai and Miku have basically been grandfathered in as the face of their respective brands/content

Despite there being an obvious shift to the Vtuber format or there being better and more human sounding Vocaloid released after their time, they will forever be the "faces" of Vtubing and Vocaloid respectively because they are the "first" that broke through the mainstream

>>1811916
https://www.playstation.com/ja-jp/local/competition/play-alive/2021-fall-guys-super-match/
Aifags don't look

>>1829052
This, she sounds like someone trying to sound like Ai used to

>>1821047
We have OGs like Siro, Peanuts-kun, and Meika. Gachiman with his 1.4M subs, 3 NIJI, Tenkaichi, and a large chunk of 774 but you can only name 4?

You can't avoid seeing them even if you're a holofag watching only holo streams. Go beyond being a clipfag, anon. You can do it.

>>1829052
Delusional. She addressed the situation even as her roommate

>>1814903
>Why do people think of the Empire State Building as an iconic skyscraper when there are other buildings taller than it
It’s the PRESTIGE, anon

>>1820706
YUAbros...

>>1835921
It's kind of ridiculous how people still deny that it's the same Ai despite all the evidence. What degree of proof do the naysayers even want? I bet even if they release filmed records of Non-chan's recording sessions over the years that they'd still deny it's the same Ai.

>>1815047
>marketing power in the domestic market.
Japan isn't exactly Fall Guys' bread basket.

>>1811916
Nyanners and Kizuna AI on the same stage together

>>1839172
Where were you when Hololive was absolutely destroyed by Kizuna picking filthy disgusting westerners over an idol group pretending to be VTubers.

>>1839340
This wouldnt happen to Niji...

>>1839340

Kizuna AI has too many chink hands on her for her to ever do an official event with holos

>>1812282
This. Its the same with why Niji is more bigger than Holo in JP because while most of their chuubas don't pull in big views, they secure brand and promotion deals with big companies.

Holos still have some ways to go in terms of becoming a brand but with what happend with bugland, I don't blame them for having difficulty with that.

>>1837521
to be honest only kizuna ai kept playing fallguys after decemebr.
...maybe the pizza dad.

>>1835878
people never knew about the 4 heavnly kings, only kizuna, the reason was that she was the biggest and her content appealed to eops too. Even had subtitles for them
Kiuna ai will alwasy still ave some heavyweight on her name becasue she holds the title of the biggest suscribed vtuber and as long as she has that she will stay relevant outside japan...so yeah...

>>1840205
uh, the have been gotten brands and promotions out of the ass. Their deal with capcom even sows that they are a big name, nissin soup, family market, game cameos and even reconigtion from big devs like ubisfot, betehsda and microsfot.After the bug debacle Holo has just keep growing in contacts.

>>1842841
Only reason normies would even know Ai is because her “fuck you” clip went viral years ago.

>>1842971
Sure. But not as much compared to Niji or Ai, they've started getting more since their rapid growth, but they need to capitalize on their major strengths like EN if they want to get an edge against Niji.

does anyone still watch kizuna RIGHT NOW?

>>1820706
This image kills the holosperm bandwagoners

Non-chan is still the VA, she just did the same thing literally every vtuber does and relax her "act" voice. Wanna see a how huge a difference that could make? Compare Omesis's first video to their more recent one.

A good way to know its still her is to listen to her singing, speaking of which, there seriously needs to be more black covers, because this deep voice shit makes my balls tingle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze8ZmCH_Ems

>>1811916
6 years later and she's still got it.

>>1811916
Not after she tainted her own brand by associating with Nyanners.

>>1851408
point and laugh at the vyt sperg

>>1842971
They had 20 full time employees in the beginning of last year lol Going from literal who's to making Capcom kneel is pretty fucking amazing, Nijisanji couldn't do that.

>>1812512
>>1834541
true

>>1839172
This presents the perfect opportunity for Nyanners to finally say nigger live on stage and be forgiven for her past crimes.

who

>>1811916
who?

>>1815075
>literal who
Literally only in the west lmao. Outside of the west, they’re extremely popular. Kuzuha is literally the most popular male Vtuber, something no other male Vtuber has yet to achieve but Kanae is a close second. Both Nijisanji

>>1811916
>retards in thread keep talking about Hololive’s western market
>ignores that only Gura is the only Hololive en streamer that regularly brings in a shitload of views while the others gradually spiral downwards