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Tell me about HoloEN.
Why don't they stream?

>> No.17920962 [DELETED] 

>>17920791
You don't know the full story I guess.
Ame, Ina and IRyS were all on a leave because of physical conditions. Also Ame is helping on the 3D stuff.
Kronii has her pc broken down. So she can not stream

>> No.17921023 [DELETED] 

>>17920962
Ignore this one, i did not read september

>> No.17921034

>>17920791
>pic from november
stream deez nuts retard

>> No.17921061

Oh look another NijiEN shill thread, how original lets all doompost about HoloEN

>> No.17921075 [DELETED] 

>>17921034
I am actually on lean I guess

>> No.17921154
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>>17920791
>Calli
Obvious

>> No.17921174

>>17920791
I want to belive its them prepping for trip to Japan

>> No.17921211

>>17920791
>November 2021
get a more up to date chart

>> No.17921234

>>17921211
Do you really think that'd change things?

>> No.17921288 [DELETED] 

>>17921234
yes
Not entirely though but it will be better considering this>>17920962

>> No.17921311

>>17921288
No anon, that'd make the disparity worse.

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>>17920791
>Tell me about HoloEn! Why dont they stream!?
>A lot of loyalty for an unpaid corpo shill!
>Or perhaps hes wondering why someone would numberfag. On a chart thats several months old...

>> No.17923005

>>17921370
kek

>> No.17923197

>Kiara still top-dogging on one of her lowest stream-time months of the year.
Feels good.

>> No.17923240

>>17920791
going to need a dollar$ made per minute grapherino now

>> No.17923783

>>17923197
>these entitled whores sitting back just raking in membership money and whining on twitter about how even that is too hard
>chicken keeps working non-stop for her dream, 24/7, every month, like she has done for years
I am not the kind of person Orange Woman makes her content for, but I really can't help but respect her. I mean, damn.

>> No.17925026

I'm actually watching Tsunderia vods, somebody help me, this isn't natural

>> No.17926302

>>17920791
Selen love

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>>17925026
Good.

>> No.17929308

God Kronii is such a fucking waste of a design.

>> No.17929422
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>>17920791
But top 5 include Mori and Kiara.
Based Nina though.

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This is fucking brutal

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>>17921370
More recently....

>> No.17929648
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>>17920791
Apologize.

>> No.17929749

>>17929614
This doesn't even account for Elira's 9 hour membership stream. Or all the streams Millie did on other people's channels

>> No.17929852

>>17920791
Because cover is in the middle of the the Multi-Channel Network transfer process.

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>>17923197
>>17923783
#TakanashiKiaraGrindset

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Meanwhile at NijiEN

>> No.17930933
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This is ridiculous

>> No.17931032

>>17930933
I wonder if NijiEN has hour requirements, or at least ones that are much higher than Hololive?

>> No.17931097

>>17930933
me on the left

>> No.17931161

This is what happens when you stream because hololive management tells you to vs people who stream because they love what they do and enjoy their fanbase

>> No.17931552

>>17930044
Can't believe she was like this FROM DEBUT. She did like 12 streams in her first week after debut. Jesus Christ.
>utaite talk on Saturday
Cool, might tune in

>> No.17931654

>>17930933
Isn't this comparing like a week of streams to a single day?

>> No.17931658

>>17930933
Please graduate the council and hire a new gen.

>> No.17931704

>>17930933
I blame Council for this

>> No.17931749

>>17929614
To add to this, Pomu was in two other collabs this past week and didn't stream her POV, so that's +6hrs there (for the parts she was in VC).

>> No.17931805

>>17931032
Three videos a week, which can include collabs (Petra's schedule this week is just four collabs and that's it)

>> No.17931940

Streaming is unironically a man's job. Women will never be at the top as it is their behavior to bitch about everything they do.

>> No.17932060

>>17920791
Because they know their simps will keep paying up regardless

>> No.17932075

Cuckbeats are at it again

>> No.17932121

>>17931940
Every job is a man's job if you're considering who can do it better

>> No.17932168

>>17931940
Ironically vt which is filled to brim by male neckbeards does nothing but bitch and gossip all day

>> No.17932232

>>17932168
Not really irony, you just don't understand statistics. Vt doesn't represent the entire male population. Men are at the top of every industry, isn't that literally a feminist moaning point?

>> No.17932245

>>17931940
>>17932168
I read this exact same bullshit a fucking year ago
Discordfags are raiding again

>> No.17932252

>>17932168
Actually, a lot of female vtubers come here to shit on each other.

>> No.17932563

>>17929614
What site is that?

>> No.17932604

>>17923783
I would like her if she stopped hurting my ears whenever I listen to her fake high pitched voice.

>> No.17932636

>>17929648
Yeah Nina. Apologize.

>> No.17932658

>>17920791
Because they are not in a constant threat, of being irrelevant and couldnt make end's met, by a new gen that showed up every other month

>> No.17932718

>>17932658
Sounds like success leads to bad content.

>> No.17932875

>>17932658
I'm really glad Niji can't compete with Hololive.

>> No.17932948

>>17920791
because they don't need to.

>> No.17932954

>>17921034
Kek, fuck you anon!

>> No.17933063

You've made 3 threads about this already. You aren't going to change anyones mind

>> No.17933164

Myth has the excuse of having dancing practices for HoloFES 3rd, for most of them it's the first time seriously dancing so I imagine it's extra hard for them if not in shape (most of them aren't in shape)
Adding to that, in Ina's case she's changing internet provider as she could barely stream with her current one as they were throttling her connection
IRyS is still kinda in recovery so it may not be good for her to stream every day, specially as a vsinger that should really take care of her throat and someone not actually required to stream other than the bare minimum (think AZKi)
Kronii has a dead PC, not much she can do, tried to resurrect old PC, didn't work either
Sana: roommate is extra busy currently
Mumei, Fauna: not much reason on why they aren't streaming so they should really be streaming
Bae: she promised she's gonna stream everyday in February, she still has some hours left in the day to fulfil that promise

>> No.17933247

>>17920791
1月 ブランド別総視聴時間(自作サイト集計) January
1. ホロライブ 17,353,835 (2228.3時間) 808枠 Hololive JP
2. にじさんじ 14,425,653 (4588.0時間) 1,594枠 Nijisanji JP
3. ホロライブEnglish 3,626,369 (585.5時間) 215枠 Hololive EN
4. NIJISANJI EN 3,174,294 (1438.6時間) 396枠 Nijisanji EN
5. ぶいすぽっ! 2,642,750 (1371.9時間) 403枠 VSPO
6. merise 1,149,644 (239.2時間) 86枠 Merise
7. ホロライブインドネシア 328,963 (335.3時間) 122枠 Hololive ID
8. ホロスターズ 294,574 (601.2時間) 210枠 Holostars
9. あにまーれ 274,235 (409.7時間) 195枠 Animare
10. ハニーストラップ 256,971 (231.7時間) 108枠 Honeystrap

total watch time (stream hours) number of streams

>HoloEN 3,626,369 (585.5 hrs) 215 streams
>NijiEN 3,174,294 (1438.6 hrs) 396 streams

>> No.17933590

The way I can tell EN actually streams a pretty normal amount compared to the rest of Hololive is that nobody’s posted that giant list of Holomems ranked by streaming hours in any of these threads.

>> No.17934289

>>17920791
Maybe because Nijis don't get monthly paychecks like Holos do. They literally work for free and are paid through google adsense like any other monetized youtuber. So obviously, the more they stream, the more money they'll make.

>> No.17934455

>>17929648
Who?

>> No.17934470

>>17934289
HoloEN salaries are minimum-wage, they don't play a factor at all

>> No.17934687

>>17932252
This one is Calli, saw her talking shit about the chicken

>> No.17934859

>>17920791
More niji shilling? How desperate are you niggers.

>> No.17934863

>>17930044
I remember when Ame was on her grind like this. 3 two a days every week.
>>17934470
If it were based on hours streamed then they could just streamed 50 hours a week and make $15 per hour plus $22.50 for 10 hours overtime. That would be $825 weekly. Enough to live off of anywhere in America besides NYC and CA.

>> No.17935071

>>17930044
Just checked. I guess the Stardew Valley collab was cancelled. Can't find the VOD on any of their channels. Reimu might plan a lot of stuff but she can't always fit it in.

>> No.17935166

>>17934863
Obviously not based on hours streamed, because they don't stream

>> No.17935217

Nijifags are the absolute worst. Stop shitting up the board with drama, assholes.

>> No.17936676 [DELETED] 

>>17935071
This is the only stream she's cancelled so far and she's been streaming twice for almost a week now. Data was released and shes has already 31 streaming hours under her belt being the second in niji EN that has streamed the most just below Pomu with 35

>> No.17936785

Kronii tummy hort
Gura tummy hort
Ameeplia tummy hort
Mumei brain hort
Sana dogs hort
Ina outfits hort my eyes
Mori hort feelings on twitter
Kiara horting for pomu

All hort

Also Irys had to actually visit a doctor, unlike these other lying fucking whores.

>> No.17936793

>>17935217
Holofags will always be magnitudes worse.

>> No.17936886

>>17929648
El Mori de Nijien

>> No.17937000

>>17931805
I wonder how they justify that, since nijis don't get paid and are basically expected to starve or swim on their own. Or how holo justifies paying people that don't fucking stream.

>>17930933
Based mori.

>> No.17937070

>>17920791
Hololive is a premium product. Niji is like all you can eat slop.

>> No.17937211

Hololive: Hibachi restaurant
Niji: Chinese Buffet

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>>17937211
You need to serve food to be considered a restaurant.

>> No.17937279

>>17937211
Then why does hololive feel like greasy mainstream fake burger shit

>> No.17937316

>>17937273
Kek

>> No.17937379

>>17936676
>This is the only stream she's cancelled so far
That's good. I admit I was going off an assumption because she was saying in the farming sim stream that she was really pushing to get both streams in that day and had just woken up. It always sucks when it's the collab stream that gets postponed.

>> No.17937471

>>17920791
>ames tech and stomach killing itself STILL does better than kronii just existing
seriously?

>> No.17937556

>>17937471
Kronii has no PC currently, it's beyond dead.

>> No.17937566

>>17936785
>Also Irys had to actually visit a doctor, unlike these other lying fucking whores.
Yes, she's supposed to do that when suddenly her period stops and never comes back.

>> No.17937574

>>17930933
There's like far more NijiEN members than holoEN, retard. It's obvious they should have more streams in comparison due to the massive amount of vtubers they have.

>> No.17937602

>>17937566
Sorry anon, my bad. I'll be more careful next time.

>> No.17937625

>>17937574
>more streamers = more streams per streamers
holotard logic

>> No.17937649

>>17937574
There are only four more people in Niji EN over Holo EN.

>> No.17937654

>>17937574
11 vs 15, not "far more"

>> No.17937806

>>17937556
PCs are in stores. Just buy one. She's made plenty of Cover money by now so she's just being lazy as usual.

>> No.17937861

>>17937806
Why would she do that when the holosheeple are still giving her money?

>> No.17937873

>>17937574
Niji is like a bucket of crabs, they have to constantly stream to try to stay on top or get sucked down into the dregs.

>> No.17937894

>>17937566
>suddenly her period stops and never comes back.
The vaccines for c19 also cause disturbances in the menstrual cycle. From loss of periods for months at a time to women that have gone through menopause suddenly having a period again.

>> No.17937908

>>17937873
>the content of holo is not playing a part of its popularity
Glad you admitted.

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>>17937873
>Streamer has to stream
Yes.

>> No.17937973

>>17937894
Shut up Connor, you are not a doctor.

>> No.17938106

>>17937908
>>17937944
I don't know why you faggots think this is a gotcha. Quantity over quality is literally McDonalds business model. Is that what you are admitting nijisanji is?

>> No.17938191

>>17938106
Why do Americans keep talking about food and McDonalds?

>> No.17938263

>>17938191
I'm comparing shitty corporations, try to keep up seanigger.

>> No.17938346

Anyone got that pic of NijiEN's earnings compared to HoloEN?

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>>17920791
I always think stuff like this is interesting, because it really does show that NijiEN actually gives a shit while HoloEN is simply enjoying their eternally free ride the moment they get hired. The absurd lack of streams is incredible.

Stuff like >>17937873 is no excuse. If your job's to stream and that's basically what you're known for and how most people are going to be able to see you, then yes, you should stream more. NijiEN's are basically a bunch of no-name fucks with not only more stream hours but also somehow more interesting content.

>> No.17938409

>>17938263
What's that, and are you capable of doing it without bringing food into the conversation?

>> No.17938428

>>17938346
Try asking in the numbers thread. I tried, but nobody would cough it up with January's numbers. Must be afraid of the outcome.

>> No.17938437

>>17938106
>you see, here's how being a streamer who doesn't stream is a good thing

>> No.17938455

>>17938428
Because they want to hide Luxiem.

>> No.17938509

>>17929614
ive seen this posted before but how i am supposed to read it?

>> No.17938526

>>17938346
Just use playboard

>> No.17938559

>>17920791
Genuinely good question. YAGOO even said their most important audition criteria was willingness to stream, yet only one of them is willing to stream a lot. They fucked up.

>> No.17938649

>>17938509
The number in brackets [ ] is their rank in their group. The number to the right of that is hours, the number to the right of that is minutes.
So, Kiara is 1st in HoloEN, with 25hr 51min streamed, for February 1st-7th.

>> No.17938654

>>17938106
The quality of nothing is nothing.

>> No.17938774

>>17929614
>sana in 5th place
>all from a single fucking stream in the middle of the week
>absolutely nothing the rest of the week
holy shit

>> No.17939951

>>17938106
>MUH QUALITY
It's just a girl talking while playing a game badly. All the streams are the same quality. Well, collabs tend to be better on average, look at the big nijien collabs for example. Meanwhile a holo who does not want to stream mumbling alone about her dead dog is kind of shit.

>> No.17940181

>>17929614
Fairy is too strong. I'm a little worried for her though, she just replaced work wholesale with streaming + the amount she was already streaming before that. Every streamer I've seen do this hits a wall and burns out and has to go to a more realistic schedule.

>> No.17940209

>>17939951
i thought holo was having trouble trying to get collabs with nijisanji?

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>>17930933
AHAHAHAHA OH NO OH NONO HOLOBRONIES? WHAT IS THIS!?

>> No.17940476

>>17940181
This number doesn't count two collabs she was in where she didn't stream her POV (+6hrs).
But, this was an abnormal week for her, she said she signed up for too many collabs without realizing. This week's schedule is lighter.

>> No.17940505

>>17940389
The Niji EN stream line up. Not sure why they left a ton of black space on the right though. Maybe they need to do a better job cropping.

>> No.17940556

>>17940209
How is that relevant? I meant in company collabs. Or any collab.

>> No.17940606

>>17929614
>Kiara's gone for 3 days now
>Nobody in holoEN catched up to her streamed hours on the last 7 days
You can't make this up

>> No.17940643

>>17938428
>January's numbers

kek

>> No.17940673

Well, Cover is not a streaming company if I recall it correctly.

>> No.17940740

>>17940673
What are they? Don't say idol company because there seems to be a lack of concerts for Holo EN over the course of a year.

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>>17940740
They're a milking passive simp income company. And it works by any metric!

>> No.17940842

>>17920791
there is such thing as too much content anon

>> No.17941054

>>17940842
>Open up YouTube
>OH NO THERE ARE TOO MANY VIDEOS ON THE PLATFORM
>Closes YouTube
I know I go through this thought process every time I go to YouTube.

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>>17938106

NijiEN has streamed more quality last week than the council has for their entire careers

>> No.17941716

>>17941288
Some people have jobs

>> No.17941808

>>17941716
Yes, nijis often have jobs aside their vtubing careers. Meanwhile holos are full time employed streamers with a set base salary to allow that.

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imagine being mogged by people that barely stream at all.

>> No.17942076

I like Hololive and Nijisanji

>> No.17942134

>>17942065
If they continue to slip that gap will continually get smaller.

>> No.17942144

>>17932604
Kikerifuckingkill yourself

>> No.17942535

>>17942065
Tells a lot about the fanbase.

>> No.17942791

>>17937000
Holo salary is like below minimum wage, none of them really rely on it. Nijis get the same kind of cuts regarding superchats, memberships, merch, etc so they're making a good living even without a salary.
Also pretty much every Niji has never had a week of less than like 4 streams except Petra(and Pomu during her surgery break) so I don't think it's management pressuring them to stream or do these insane hours. They could be streaming 1 hr a day if they wanted to half-ass it like Sana.

>> No.17942813

>>17930933
>>17929535
This is bait. Fauna, Mumei, Baelz, Ame and Mori are all streaming this week, but simply didn’t put any schedule.

>> No.17942857

>>17942813
Anon this thread is bait...

>> No.17942889

>>17942134
And how long have you been saying this?

>> No.17942911

>>17920791
Quality over quantity

>> No.17942925

>>17942889
Seems like for 15 minutes now since I posted it. That's for how long.

>> No.17942981

>>17942911
Quality of nothing is nothing

>> No.17943006

>>17940740
They’re an entertainment company. And Myth are unironically preparing for their first concert next month despite being remote. Don’t know bout Council though.

>> No.17943019

>>17941716
Rosemi works full time and streams 5-6 times a week (excluding the weekly membership streams). just accept that you have streamers that don't even stream

>> No.17943085

>>17943006
>They’re an entertainment company. And Myth are unironically preparing for their first concert next month despite being remote. Don’t know bout Council though.
Council is preparing voicepacks, seeing as Mumei, one of the most consistent holostreamers took two days off

>> No.17943116

>>17942911
0x0=0

>> No.17943140

>>17943006
Entertainment is vague. What are the goals of that entertainment?

>> No.17943159

>>17942981
>>17943116
Can the fans of the corpo the regularly graduates their own talents every other month shut the fuck up about quality?

>> No.17943198

>>17943085
>Two days off for voicepacks
Literally weaksauce

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>>17943159

>> No.17943243

>>17943159
LMAOO

>> No.17943293

>>17941288
Where's the quality?

>> No.17943300

OP they dont stream because they dont need to work as hard as niji plebs LMFAO

>> No.17943367

>>17933590
The JP's are pretty lazy as well for both companies. If someone actually made a list of most streaming hours NijiEN would be near the top and HoloEN would probably be middle of the pack except for Mori and Kiara and Bae.

>> No.17943432

>>17920791
Don't need to grind hours when you're not a 2view. Work smarter, not harder.

>> No.17943449

>>17943293
The MGR and Castlevania streams were pretty entertaining, and this is coming from someone who normally doesn't give nijishitters the time of day

>> No.17943458

>>17931161
this has got to be one of the most delusional copes i have ever seen lol holy fuck you guys want to justify niji EN > holoEN so bad it makes you look so pathetic please stop

>> No.17943502

>>17943449
No, they weren't. What now?

>> No.17943506

>>17943198
Mumei is still in school, while everyone is Myth has free time from morning to their streaming time.

>> No.17943526

>>17943502
have fun with your minecraft streams then

>> No.17943552

>>17933247
hey OP you need to see this, niji numbers cant even compete all the while having more hours streamed kek

>> No.17943554

>>17943526
What minecraft stream?

>> No.17943578

>>17943554
>What streams?
ftfy

>> No.17943579

>>17943554
oh right yeah I forgot, sorry

>> No.17943618

>>17943579
Kek

>> No.17943620

>>17936793
buddy you're on 4chan, everyone here is tamer than like 99% of the worst neckbeards here

>> No.17943625

>>17943293
>Metal Gear Rising
>Castlevania
>Telltale Walking Dead
>Enna playing any David Cage game because she's funny as fuck
>Luca Sekiro because he's actually good at games
>Vox Oldschool Runescape autism
feel free to respond with "all those games suck ass" and out yourself as a tourist though.

>> No.17943626

>>17943578
>ignores actual reality
>faggot thinks he made a point

>> No.17943654

>>17943502
What's quality?

>> No.17943676

>>17943654
pokemon or minecraft, nothing else

>> No.17943695

>>17943625
I only watch quality games like block game and pokemon

>> No.17943700

>>17943676
Sadge

>> No.17943709

>>17938365
entitled cuck here pls ban ty

>> No.17943736

>>17943625
Walking Dead, David Cage and OSRS suck ass.

>> No.17943737

>>17943695
Double sadge unpog

>> No.17943739

>>17943625
>it's quality because... it just is, okay?
I wonder when you fuckshits are going to understand that just listing random games not normally played isn't just an auto mark of quality. Is Gura the queen of quality for being literally the only EN of note anywhere to play Bully?

>> No.17943746

>>17940181
>Every streamer I've seen do this hits a wall and burns out and has to go to a more realistic schedule
Except for her pal in HoloEN.

>> No.17943779

>>17943739
>it's not quality because... it isn't hololive
is what you are trying to say

>> No.17943785

>>17943739
If you can't recognize why those games are quality then you just don't play enough games, how badly do you need to be spoonfed?

>> No.17943826

>>17941288
still less views and money, meanwhile we're here streaming "non-quality" content and raking in more $$$ fuck you and your crying ass

>> No.17943858

>>17920791
Even the highest is less than a normal job.

>> No.17943865

>>17943739
Quality streamer + quality game = quality stream
i see this as an absolute win!

>> No.17943871
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17943871

LEAVE THEM ALONE, ALL THEY HAVE IS HIGHER NUMBERS NOW, EVERYTHING ELSE THEY FAIL AT JUST SIMPLY DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM. Don't bully Holo fans this badly.

>> No.17943874

>>17940606
Kiara's stream hours are shit. She plays a game for 2h to then read (super) chat for 6 hours.
She is barely putting any work in herself by sitting on her ass and let the chat talk to her and send her superchats because KFP are mental.
Then she complains how she has to prepare the next holotalk by selecting questions her viewers sent her.
She is always relying on her viewers because she is not really entertaining. That is why she feels like she needs to feed all the rats with her stupid stories.

>> No.17943907

>>17943779
Never made that claim.

>>17943785
I don't find watching non-gamers play Revengeance fun. Anywhere. Not specific to Pomu.
Same with Castlevania.
Walking sims. Never been a fan.
OSRS. Why not just put a bullet in my head?
>but they're just quality, okay? Because I said so.
Retard.

>> No.17943908

>>17943826

anon you are just embarassing yourself at this point.

>> No.17943912

>>17943826
>money
Anon....

>> No.17943952

>>17943625
quality but it doesn't bring in the views sadge now seethe and enjoy being inferior lul

>> No.17944003

>>17943874
still more views and superchat than the most superchatted/most viewed/most subbed nijiEN streamer KEK

>> No.17944020

>>17943874
>Not appreciating zatsudan
NGMI

>> No.17944063

>>17943739
>it's quality because... it just is, okay?
It's always like that for Nijifags since they can't measure quality by viewership because it's embarrassingly low.

>> No.17944075

>>17943907
So true sister, I only want Minecraft and Pokemon

>> No.17944109

>>17944063
>embarrassingly low.
About that... Ahahahaha

>> No.17944123
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>>17944075

>> No.17944136

>>17943952
Those streams actually brought in quite a lot of views relative to their usual numbers which is what matters.

The fact NijiEN is slowly growing while branching out their stream content and exploring different niches while HoloEN have been stuck in the same old shit for 1.5 years suggests one is just coasting off name recognition and will be in trouble if there's ever a realignment or correction in the vtuber scene. They're one bad scandal away from turning into the next AI-chan. My hope is Kiara can at least pivot into Nijisanji to join her wife Pomu and escape the toxic environment of HoloMyth once they start to decline.

>> No.17944215

>>17944123
That's the good stuff! Give me MORE! Show me all the Holo Pokemon streams!

>> No.17944261

>>17944215
>Selen playing 24 hours of Pokemon doesn't count because... it just doesn't, okay!

>> No.17944271

>>17944136
The boys bring view and money, super POG!

>> No.17944292

>>17944261
Who said it doesn't count? I WANT MORE
GIVE IT TO ME
NOW

>> No.17944325

>>17944292
POKEMON LEGEND IS BORING!!!! ITS MORE FUN TO PLAY IT BY YOURSELF!

>> No.17944338

>>17944136
>brought in quite a lot of views "relative to their usual numbers"
what, it increased from 1k to 1.1k ? omegalul. they stuck in the same old shit but they still keep on winning, the numbers dont lie. views, subs, supas, members -- niji cant keep up omegalul

>> No.17944339

>>17944325
DONT CARE
GIVE IT TO ME
GIVE ME ALL THE HOLO POKEMON STREAMS

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17944356

>>17944003
Oh?

>> No.17944368

>>17944325 (me)
I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVVEEEEEEEEEEEE POKEMON

>> No.17944382

>>17944292
>>17944339
Sperging out over his dumb talking point not landing.

>> No.17944396

>>17943871
what exactly does hololive fail at? if niji is really better than holo then shouldn't the numbers reflect that ? lol fuck outta here nijifag

>> No.17944465

>>17944396
If quality means numbers then why did various people abandon their past life and join Holo X? They are quality vtubers, why couldn't they replicate that in their past life?

>> No.17944484

>>17944356
good job ur streamer strimd this week, holoEN dont even do the grind like ur poor ass gayboi streamer is doing and it still gets the same viewership and money bro

>> No.17944533

Has HoloEN grown at all since they debuted 1.5 years ago? Genuinely asking because looking at numbers they've only been steadily declining or holding even for months. Dead subs are fun to brag about but their superchat and viewership is in the toilet these days, especially post-Council when everyone realized Hololive isn't a perfect recipe for good streamers.

At this rate unless Holostars EN is a huge success they'll unironically fall behind NijiEN in total views per week in 2 months tops.

>> No.17944548

>>17943874
>She plays a game for 2h to then read (super) chat for 6 hours
Proof? Her last 7 hour stream had her reading SCs at the last 2 hours only and the 8 hour stream before that had SC reading at the 6th hour mark.

>> No.17944549
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17944549

>>17944123

>finishes pokemon in 4 days so she can move on to apex grind
>manages to fit pokemon edibility and beating DMC on one sitting on the same day,
>currently +6 hour finishing sonic with ike

selen is pretty based yeah

>> No.17944553

>>17944484
Ame made only $400 today, between two streams, with no other competition.

>> No.17944556

>>17944484
Aren't you tried from moving those goal posts? You implied she got more than Niji EN's most super chatted.

>> No.17944578

>>17944325
I LOOOOOOVEEEEEEEEEEE POKEMON!!!

>> No.17944595

>>17944533
What are you gonna do if they don’t? Will you cry some more?

>> No.17944621

>>17944356
Show Luca

>> No.17944652

>>17944533
Well seeing what Niji has become, Holostars will probably be a huge boost to Hololive's overall popularity since they'll bring in a huge wave of new viewers.

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>>17944621

>> No.17944731

>>17942144
I would kneel if Chimkin actually said that.

>> No.17944790

>>17944652
I don't really care who's on top but I kinda hope so because it might give more recognition for Holostars JP and those boys work extremely hard.

Ideally both companies will have thriving EN branches and Omegafaggot will have to suck it up and let them collab to shake up the EN scene. Maybe seeing how hard NijiEN works might motivate the HoloEN girls to work just as heard as a friendly rivalry.

>> No.17944833

>>17944652
Kinda surprise they choose luxiem over starJP when they can understand starJP more that Luxiem

>> No.17944844

>>17944790
We don't know who is steering Holo EN, it could possibly be all final say from JP, but we have no clue at all. It's just easy for people to pin it all on Omega when he can be powerless to those above him as well.

>> No.17944859

>>17944652
What new viewers? Luxiem has already cornered the market in terms of male EN vtubers. StarsEN is going to face the same uphill battle that the NijiEN girls have been facing against HoloEN.

>> No.17944911

>>17944833
How is that surprising? The whole reason vtubers got popular is because EOPs prefer idealizing foreign women they can't understand over local women they can understand(and hate). Japanese/SEA/Chinese women are no exception, they'd rather romanticize gaijin men as lovable himboes than deal with the creepy weirdos on the streets of their own country.

>> No.17944917
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My oshi streamed the third most in HoloEN while simultaneously recording an EP and wrecked her throat because of it, I will not stand for this slander

>> No.17944920

>>17944833
There were tons of messages on their debut week saying they didn't know what vtubers were before until they saw the debut ad. Debuting more people and running ads will hopefully bring in more people that don't even watch vtubers before.

As always it's about visbility, and Cover doesn't give Stars JP enough visibility.

>> No.17944938

>>17944859
StarEN Will success IF
>Chink doesn't have hateboner from Taiwan drama
>A existing Holofan actually watch them

>> No.17944957

>>17944533
relax they're just plateauing. if they didn't grow they wouldn't be the most subscribed/most channels with youtube views. it's a slow growth, no other VTubers can hit their numbers (at least in EN)

>> No.17944959

>>17943739
>>it's quality because... it just is, okay?
Isn't this what holofans do
They never explain why their streamer is supposedly so high quality

>> No.17944985

>>17944553
Bitch only allowed supersticker tho

>> No.17944986

>>17944553
nice. go back to sucking ur niji cuck's dicks

>> No.17944991

>>17944920
But chink.... I don't think anycolor run an ads on Bilibili

>> No.17945034

>>17944986
Nta but, as pleasure

>> No.17945074

>um actually it's a good thing that my oshi doesn't stream because it means they're popular
The mind of a Holofag is an enigma

>> No.17945080

>>17944549
>Apex
Wow. Great.

>> No.17945083

>>17944553
ame dont give a fuck about superchats lol she had hers turned off for the superchat reading you niji cuck. luxiem is just new to the scene, give it 2-3 months and yall will be crying for pennies. it's the vtuber honeymoon phase

>> No.17945085

>>17944985
>>17944986
And? Am I wrong?

>> No.17945101

>>17945074
It's the same as applefags and marvelfags and other normie "fandoms" that just buy and consume the most popular product because they want to fit in. It's kind of pathetic really.

>> No.17945113

>>17944556
will never get tired of moving goalposts if it means shitting on you nijicucks lmfaoooo seethe and cope with ur inferiority

>> No.17945120

>>17945083
If she had them turned off, then how did she earn money during the superchat reading? Can't explain that!

>> No.17945143

>>17943736
David Cage really suck ass, but Enna playing that shit is guaranteed comedy.

>> No.17945151

>>17945085
buddy you're in the early phase of VTubers, they always get the most from their early days. dont be so cocky lol

>> No.17945153

>>17945080
Yes there is Apex, and Pokémon, and Devil Mau Cry, and Sonic Adventure.

>> No.17945158

>>17945080
And Sonic....... Yes, she play sonic
>>17945083
>it's the vtuber honeymoon phase
Niji honeymoon is only a week or two

>> No.17945191

>>17945101
Do Nijifags have such an inferiority complex that you think NijiEN is some hidden gem? It's also a big corpo, fuckshit.

>> No.17945211

>>17945151
>early phase
luxiem debuted in mid december, it's been almost 2 months

>> No.17945217

>>17941288
>Old school runescape

>> No.17945230

>>17945211
Honeymoons last for 12 months.

>> No.17945236

>>17945158
didn't you guys just recently open memberships and superchat donos like weeks ago lol fuck off

>> No.17945284

Is it true that one of the nijiEN girls applied to holoEN and had a menhera outburst because she was declined?

>> No.17945303

>>17945236
They all got superchats in December, and most opened membership in the beginning of January.

>> No.17945306

>>17945191
If a group with debuff can survive and making bank after getting overshadow by yt algorithm then it tell you they're something

>> No.17945359

>>17945191
Nijifags probably watch more non-Niji vtubers than Holofags watch non-Holos though. It's more about breaking the corporate bubble and encouraging people to branch out from the "numbers = quality" smoothbrain mentality as that leads to more innovation and creativity in the vtuber scene rather than just chasing numbers.
Most Nijifags even watch Hololive as well when they're actually entertaining. Holofags and Nijifags need to come together and reject the dumb brand loyalty.

>> No.17945362

>>17945306
It tells me nothing. You're telling me nothing. You don't know anything about YouTube's algo because you're just a fucking retard on /vt/.

>> No.17945386

>>17945362
Lol
Lmao even

>> No.17945391

>>17945362
>I can't hear you. I'm not listening.
The post

>> No.17945496

>>17945391
>accept by rrats because... just do it, okay!

>>17945359
Great message of unity dripped in baitfaggotry just like this thread.

>> No.17945564

>>17944548
no proof just egg cracking

>> No.17945569

>>17945306
>with debuff can survive and making bank after getting overshadow by yt algorithm

is this the new cope after ''muh chemistry'' ??? kek

>> No.17945587

>>17945080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKm6KDC6CTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hSMpYUctlk

>> No.17945626
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oh nyo, NijiEN is taking over the EN market with their massive quality streams kek

>> No.17945657

>>17945074
>Get their own board
>Doxxpost and spam blacked porn
Yeah... their minds are something all right...

>> No.17945668

>>17945569
You doesn't make sense my dude

>> No.17945692

>>17944595
Why did you get that mad at the most genuine non-bait post in the thread? Projection? Did you even read it?

>> No.17945750

>>17945496
>Accept mine because... JUST DO IT, OKAY!

>> No.17945880
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SEEEEEXXX

>> No.17945910

>>17944833
What other anons said + Luxiem boys are pandering hard. They all actually discuss, like, retweet their ship tags, do fujobait jokes etc. Yumejo pandering too, most of them don't really capitalize on that though but Vox more than makes up for it with his streams like dates, advice corners and reading thirsty tweets. And yumejos just fawn over Ike and Luca anyway because they find them cute and lovable. All of this is really new, NijiJP boys or Holostars might have done the same amount of pandering in a year or more that Luxiem does in a week max. It's literally fujo and yumejo heaven so Asian girls go crazy over boys.

>> No.17945947

>>17945880
man, the amount of art of hskw being choked always makes me chuckle

>> No.17946113

>>17945910
Only like 2 out of 5 of them do any sort of fujobaiting or pandering at all. Luca's mod explicitly had to tell his chat to stop spamming degenerate shit in his chat because it was making him uncomfortable and he never acknowledges it. Ike listed a bunch of cunny VNs in his debut and has never done anything remotely close to pandering or acknowledging fujos or shipfags. Shu is basically a seiso good boy who doesn't talk about that shit at all, there's even a joke that he has a bunch of MILF fans that want to spoil him because of one taiwanese superchatter saying he reminds her of her children.

Anyone who says Luxiem are pandering more than JP male vtubers has either never watched Luxiem outside of Vox and Mysta or is being willfully dishonest just to disparage them.

>> No.17946335

>>17946113
luxiem is just vox and mysta anyway, the rest dont count cuz they're too inferior. so luxiem = fujobaiting

>> No.17946404

>>17946335
Luca is the best, though.

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>>17946335
You have such a narrow scope.

>> No.17946935

>>17946706
>obvious bait reply
>still bites the bait

do you guys have brains or idk

>> No.17946972

>>17946935
This is a bait thread... why are you complaining about bait within one?

>> No.17947027

>>17946972
at least there's actual discussion being held, it's like half serious half bait thread lol. this guy just bit on a 100% bait reply

>> No.17947045

>>17945750
What the fuck is my rrat, faggot? That you're a dumb piece of shit that don't know what you're talking about?

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>>17947045
Get a muzzle on this man, he's frothing.

>> No.17947146

>>17933164
>not much she can do
So you're saying all those superchats were for nothing?

>> No.17948290

>>17920791
>november

>> No.17948903 [DELETED] 

so did mizuchi finally shut up?

>> No.17950207

>>17943449
Yeah Pomu's literally the only one worth checking out, we know.

>> No.17950423

Holy cope. More like holocope.

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