/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>17721444
Sas to say ,its not catchy at all.
Also,Trigger tier? More like indies on tight budget copying trigger style tier

two more weeks for 1 mil

>>17721444
It's not catchy, you can barely understand wtf Mori is rapping about because she thinks she's eminem except shes just fast talking and dipshit made Gura sing in Japanese God knows why, the only good thing is the MV and that can only carry it so far.

the market for overproduced electronic vocaloid gura has been saturated for months

Those are some absurd high standards.

>>17721444
It's not catchy, that's all. I did listen this first time about few hours ago and I can't remember how it sound like anymore.

>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Top 10 list) (31st Jan 2022)

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
King (CalliGura) - 0d 11h 36m
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
Ochame Kinou (HoloEN) - 1d 20h 0m
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2d 0h 26m
Kamipoi (Laplus) - 2d 7h 43m
Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2d 14h 51m
Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 2d 17h 0m

(From /#/)


It's on the way to become the third fastest song to reach 1m.

>>17723147
One other thing to note - the other two were on Gura's channel. Even if she's linked it on her channel the algo sees its on Mori's and pushes it accordingly.
If this had been on Gura's channel it could've been at 1mil already, but it is what it is.

Where are the 1.8m cuckbeats when you need em?

>>17723147
Surprised there's not a single Suisei song.

>>17721444
I don't like the song, I think it's kinda boring, but those are serious numbers even by hololive standards.

>>17723375
Suisei's songs don't necessarily have the most explosive starts, but they have very long legs.

Trust the plan

>>17721444
I could not remember a single note or line or melody 5 minutes after finishing listening to it. It is completely forgettable with nothing catchy. It's not terribly sung or put together, it's just a song that goes in one ear and out the other.

>>17721444
Relative flop.
Things going against the song:
Excess of trampling gura’s voice
Excess of hype surronding the mv
Not catchy enough?.


Its not bad , just not notable.

listened to 20 seconds. thought it was cringe. turned off

>>17723452
>Suisex has very long legs.
That's how I read it.

>>17721444
because I didn't watch it, I just don't like mori calliope

Overrated ENVtubers are why.

>>17722702
Gura's Japanese sounds good in every other song.

>>17721444
Sorry I sent my fridges in for maintenance...

>>17723147
very enlightening, and also lmao op btfo

>>17723147
>Not getting 1st is a flop
Kek

>>17721444
not as good as other moris songs
too chunibyo
i personally prefer songs like bully or End of a life

>>17724346
I mean it's shitposters shitposting, what's new?

>>17724516
also mori factor

>>17724346
It is a flop in the relative sense since it's failing in comparison to its own direct competition. The number one spot being by the face of the duo and the number two spot being by the duo itself which means if their popularity were growing rather than fading, they would beat their own record.

>>17724702
Except two things
-This isn't on Gura's channel
-This is by far the fastest growing song on Mori's channel so far
Now, how well it maintains its momentum remains to be seen, but it's not a straight 1:1 comparison.

>>17721444
>Include English rap in a jp song
I'll never understand what this wigger thinking

Youtube didn't recommend it to me yet, and I'm too lazy to look it up on mori's channel.

I'm honestly surprised it flopped so hard.
Yeah the song is kinda mediocre but I expected the sole fact that it's Gura x Mori and the MV being cool to just carry it.

Only explanation I can think of is that cumsharts don't care about that style since they don't like "badass" Gura.

>>17721444
i didnt like the song
the instruments carried the song like mf atlas
but i did not like the lyrics

>>17721444
HoloEN hype is dead

>>17723147
So this will be the fastest song to reach 1 mil on Mori’s channel by over a full day. Neat.

>>17725511
I guess leeching is considered a good thing now?

>>17723147
>>17725511
mori lifes rent free in vt sisters head after all

>>17725364
>badass
it's unironically just fully concentrated cringe when they try to act that way

>>17725364
>about to do better than most hololive songs
>flop
I’m tired of this song and dance with new content

>>17725599
how does she keep getting away with it sisters…

>>17721444
Dunno, fucking closed it when goro started her weeb cringe singing

>>17725684
It's a flop for their standards you retard, they have OVER 5 MILLION SUBS combined, 1m in 12 hours should be a given.

>>17725684
He’s just baiting anon, this will likely be the biggest hololive song of the year unless Gura releases another original.

>>17725966
>literally admitting Gura can get more views on her own
Bravo retard

>>17725966
I’m well aware of what these retards are trying to do, they do it with every song and it never works

it will get fast viewership if its a real bopping bazingers but nope it was bland like wet noodles without the ramen flavour

I don't get the song criticisms themselves, this is about VIEWS, not about the song itself, that'd be about the comments or number of likes (I'd say like dislike ratio but you know how it is)

Too much mori

It's a song about hating their fanbase

>>17725599
Yeah that's why we made an EP about her, oh wait..

>>17723147
wasn't expecting to see Laplus in there

>>17723551
I think its been a core issue with alot of hololive songs, most of the lyrics are not very catchy (I think the chorus is usually the only part worth remembering in most of these) and Q doesn't have a good chorus.

And for verses I don't care if fucking rhymes or not, but if you're gonna try to fucking rhyme, don't also try to fit in entire sentences in a couple notes because you're not fucking Eminem or a Rapper, it comes off muddled and unintelligible.

Animation was fine though, and I don't have any issue with Calli unlike alot of people, but I do believe her lyric style is seriously lacking.

>>17725007
She can't rap in Nihongo extensively.

>>17726981
she can barely rap in English either.

Honest answer: because is in Gura's channel

>>17725417
Its all about luxiem now

>>17723375
>Surprised there's not a single Suisei song.
she doesn't have a big "active" fanbase, as a streamer she's sort of vanilla; nothing particularly eye catching, and there are better options to watch. most people who are subbed to her are subbed for her songs and live3d performances. as a result since no one really pays close attention her songs tend to drop with little fanfare, and people will catch them at their convenience.

as a result she won't usually see an explosive start unless she's doing a high profile, highly anticipated collab (like her one with Calli)

>>17726905
Laplus is probably the best singer in her gen; i'm a bit confused though, cause her version of Kammipoi isn't over 1mil views, was it taken down and reposted?

>>17726541
>It's a song about hating their fanbase
no, it's a song about haters being put down like the dogs they are.

>>17721444
>Why did it flop so hard?
it will break 1mil by hour 20...

which will make it the 3rd fastest song in holo-history to 1mil, and the fastest by far on mori's channel. this is the power of same-chan

>>17721444
Flap Flop Flap Flop
Idiot

white women don’t belong in rap.

>>17727608
Anon...
Did you even check her channel?

>>17724702
COPE

>>17726851
>Yeah that's why we made an EP about her, oh wait..
anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwmn3X4ulfU

Hits 900k in 16 hours and 7 minutes. Will either be over or under 20 hours to hit 1 million.

>>17723629
>Relative flop
Relative to what? It's about to become the 3rd Hololive song to reach 1mil in under 24 hours

>>17729576
>Will either be over or under 20 hours to hit 1 million
Definitely either of the two, yeah

>>17721444
This is the dumbest bait I've seen in a while, but it's kinda funny so I'll let it slide.

>>17726981
She can't rap in English either but that doesn't stop her.

>>17730641
It's all about the "gotcha" posts on this board. Good job, anon.

Why is the song in Japanese?

>>17730765
Why not?

>>17730765
Because it's written by a Nip and would probably sound awkward as fuck sung in English?

>>17730801
>>17730868
But they're Holo EN.

>>17726915
>don't also try to fit in entire sentences in a couple notes because you're not fucking Eminem or a Rapper, it comes off muddled and unintelligible.
Honestly this part killed any momentum the song starts off with

>>17727503
>>17723452
>>17723375
Her songs are lower down on that list at 3 days. It was the Phony and Animal covers.

>>17721444
Gura’s lyrics literally don’t have translation in an OFFICIAL EN HOLO MV Because or that her singing is going to sound like background music to anyone listening, making it seem like Mori has more lyrics. Who ever green lite this is retarded.

Hits 950k at 17 hours and 42 minutes. Looks like it'll be hitting 1 million views over the 19 hour mark unless there is a big push in this last stretch, which there usually is one.

>initially was iffy
>now

>>17726851
Anon we did do that and it was embarrassing.

>>17728683
>>17733448
>newfags dont know about deatbeats vs watamates rapbattles and think its something personal against Mori

>>17725599
>lifes

>>17734921
>but..t..t mori is worst
it's ok anon cry if you need it

>>17725922
Dumbass, It is on mori’s channel not gura’s so of course it would be slower.

>>17726019
King beat reflect though

Spics are seaniggers of Americas

>>17730868
STOP HIRING JAPS YOU RETARDS THEN

>>17736699
>original Gura song
>meme song with Gura
Not even close

>>17721444
The music is extremely forgettable, it's a shame they wasted the visual production on such a weak song. And there's like 10% Gura and 90% Calli being unintelligible, it's practically false advertising.

>>17727712
and I was right. 19 hours in, and she is capping 1mil in the next couple of minutes.

Q hits 1 million views in 19 hours and 32 minutes

>>17737701
3rd fastest? or 4th?

>>17737745
look

>>17723147

>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Top 50 list) (5th Feb 2022)

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
King (CalliGura) - 0d 11h 36m
Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
Ochame Kinou (HoloEN) - 1d 20h 0m
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2d 0h 26m
Kamipoi (Laplus) - 2d 7h 43m
Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2d 14h 51m

Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 2d 17h 0m
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
Animal (Suisei and Miko) - 3d 0h 28m
Phony (Suisei) - 3d 5h 29m
End of a life (Mori) - 3d 9h 50m
Ochame Kinou (HoloX) - 4d 0h 15m
GETCHA! (Suisei and Mori) - 4d 1h 45m
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 4d 6h 41m
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 4d 16h 36m

RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m
KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5d 15h 56m
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52
Goodbye Sengen (Takanashi Kiara) - 6d 18h 37m
Ruma (Hakui Koyori) - 7d 0h 30m
Haiiro to Ao (Suisei and Towa) - 7d 7h 48m
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7d 14h 24m
King (Pavolia Reine) - 7d 22h 4m
Bully (Mori Calliope) 8d 10h 1m

Vampire (Minato Aqua) - 8d 15h 12m
Goodbye Sengen (Uruha Rushia) - 8d 17h 6m
Fansa (Kiryu Coco) - 8d 18h 0m
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
Target for love (Gawr Gura) - 9d 9h 33m
Violet (Ninomae Inanis) 9d 12h 40m
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m
Tuning love (Pekora Moona) - 10d 0h 24m
Animal (Nekomata Okayu) - 10d 2h 41m
Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10d 3h 37m

Umapoi densetsu (Aqua, Fubuki, Marine, Rushia, Kanata, Mio) - 10d 13h 43m
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 3h 37m
Usseewa (Mori and Milky queen) - 10d 19h 48m
Eye (Takane Lui) - 11d 0h 42m
Envy Baby (Mori Calliope) - 11d 21h 3m
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 12d 5h 20m
Saga Jihen (Suisei & 3rd Gen) - 12d 6h 15m
A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m
Kamipoi (Murasaki Shion) 12d 17h 31m

>>17737701
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>17722855
For HoloMyth? That's average at best.

>>17738522
You're an idiot.

>>17722855
high expectation but for as much as it was hyped, i would say its kinda medium.

>>17737992
Lmao.
Antis fucking rekt.

>>17738522
no they aren't, see >>17737992

>>17737992
Is there a version of this with just the Original songs?

>>17739227
No, you'll have to filter it out yourself, though give me a couple of minutes and I'll edit it down for you

>>17739227
>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Original songs only)

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
End of a life (Mori) - 3d 9h 50m
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m

Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52
Bully (Mori Calliope) 8d 10h 1m
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
Violet (Ninomae Inanis) 9d 12h 40m
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m
Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10d 3h 37m
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 3h 37m
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 12d 5h 20m
A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m

>>17739347
Based numbers anon

Is youtube recommending the song to you guys? I noticed that I haven't seen it once since I listened to it. I keep Tsunami and Bae's cover getting recommended after having already watched them, but I have to actively search for [Q].

>>17737992
>>17739347
the people have spoken…

>>17740829
no, i clicked dislike so i've never seen a rec

>>17739347
>Popular streamer with million of subs gets big views. More news at 11
It's pretty terrible song. I rather play stellar stellar instead

>>17721444
Song sucked, but those are still good views i would say. People will watch anything with Gura in it i guess

Song is a banger and will perform better than Reflect in the long run it's just that since it's on Mori's channel it's harder for people to find but they will replay it more.

>>17743275
Mori has the music channel buff, they'll definitely replay it more.

Looks like a lot of anons are missing the real reason why it flopped. The reason is that this original was purposefully fabricated to beat the best time to 1mil.
>The combination of 2 most subbed Holo members, both of them dominating fastest times to 1 mill in other songs.
>Full on animation
>Hired a famous music producer
>Extremely short duration (means it will get more replays)
>Pretty long anticipation time
Basically, it was a fight of everything Cover can throw vs recline of HoloEN. And it's pretty obvious that recline won.

>Mori is supposed to be the musician of the Gen
>gets totally mogged by Gura
Does she have anything left going for her? Honest question.

>>17744164
All those reasons you mention are not buffing Kanata's MV views at all
lurk more newfag

>>17744164
if the song was better it would be a mega hit. nothing to do with reclining EN

>>17744164
It fell pretty much exactly within expected parameters. The true test will be its growth from here on out.

>1 million views in less then a day
>it flopped
Thats it your too dumb for you's

Watched it, seemed fairly forgettable. Maybe with subs it'd be a bit better but I doubt it.

I could barely hear Gura singing in it.

>>17730915
I guaranteed at least 40% of the their subs are Japs. They love these two.

>>17744471
>are not buffing Kanata's MV views at all
Nah, that's because nobody gives a fuck about Kanata

>>17721444
I don't know about "flopping" but it's kinda cringey and tryhard J-Pop for weebs song.

>>17744588
How fucking new? Anyone who was watching vtubers for at least a week and has a functioning brain knows that when it comes to vtuber music, views depend not on performer's talent or how well it was performed. The only one criteria is the popularity of performer.

>>17721444
i don't understand what the song is trying to say.

>>17737992
All I get from that is Calli x Gura are almost half as popular as when King got released.

>>17744164
People here don't realize how much it matters that Q is a much shorter MV than King.

>>17745116
By that logic Mori and Gura are still the most popular vtubers in the world.

>>17744588
Watame's songs are much better than Suisei's yet Suisei mogs Watame in views. If anyone thinks the views have any relationship to the quality of the song they're deluded as fuck.

>Trust in the plan

What did Q mean by this bros

>>17745250
"dude, what if I was dante?"
"yo dawg, that sounds sick"

>>17745747
Well, some of them are some not. I agree on the main point though unless there is some sort of retard in these threads that wants to defend the quality of Baby Shark.

>>17746783
This whole MV was made because Gura and Mori had an argument over whether Satsuki or Dante was stronger, and any one pretending otherwise is a dumbass

>>17747295
It was made to show support for 1/6

>>17721444
It feels formulaic. I listened to it once and didn't even bother for any more.

>>17722702
The MV is one of the best in hololive, yeah. It's worth a watch for that alone at least.

>>17736715
I can promise you the non-spics in America aren't any better. Burgers included.
Not entirely sure about leafs desu, but the qebec ones are also subhuman.

>>17745747
Well, that's your opinion and your opinion is trash

Gura needs to sing in English already

>>17728683
Scared to link the good one deadbeat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD99GKKS_KQ

>>17749247
Careful, you'll sumon the reddit condomubeeto from the thread who kept samefag sperging.

>>17721444
the caption didn't work, they didn't translate gura's side, mori was the only one who was speaking english. isn't mori supposed to know japanese better than gura? what the fuck was the animation about? why do they look so angry when they are fighting each other for no reason? why isn't gura's side (axes and guns) beating mori (wooden bats and a katana) without effort? why does gura join mori in suddenly beating up their own fans for no reason? what the fuck is going on? niggerman save me!

>>17745747
Maybe sheep's music is just fucking garbage?

>>17753052
Retard.

>>17744471
>>17744872
Kanata still exists? RVM0R

>>17750327
>isn't mori supposed to know japanese better than gura?
Despite living in Japan and having a preexisting job in Japan she somehow only has the nihongo skills of the average entry level weeb that insists they know Japanese because they watched Naruto subbed instead of dubbed.

>>17721444
dude lean lmao.

>>17721551
yeah it sounds like a generic song and the autone doesn't help either.

>>17756881
so mori is a phony weeb, too?

>>17749247
Holy fucking KEK this is unironically great.
Got an archive link to the thread where this first dropped?

>>17761788
>>17699491

>>17742835
cope

>>17760164
Yeah, she claims she stopped watching anime to focus on her music and only recently got back into it but I haven't heard her talk about any more recent anime. Just childhood stuff like Inuyasha and other Adult Swim shows.

>>17723147
>King (CalliGura) - 0d 11h 36m
I thought people say this was shit.

>>17762029
Based, I don't actually care all that much about the Mori drama but memes like this are hilarious.

>>17762294
anyone with functioning braincells would've told you not to believe anything people say around here

>>17744164

While on the other side of the world

アニマル/沙花叉クロヱ(cover)

2 days ago 458k view

>>17745250

theres lyrics and there is an mv
it's not that hard to figure out

>>17762294
It's shit but it's on Gura's channel so whatever

>>17763253
the opinions expressed in /vt/ are not representative of the greater community, what a shock

>listened to it yesterday
>thought it was alright
>moved on
>listened it again today
>been on loop for like 4 hours

wtf

DECO*27 : Gura-chan What kind of music do you like?
Gura : *Sends him this clip* https://youtu.be/JAjjObwlTG0

Why is she like this?

>>17764050
Literally every single person in every community would acknowledge 12 Days of Christmas was shit and yet it's close to 1 million views while songs that at least some people would like don't even have 100K. What channel songs appear on does matter.

>>17721444
i can't even remember one verse or the chorus of this

>>17723147
>popular channels have lots of views
whoa really

>>17768542
Oh look its another episode of "I read it on /vt/ ergo it must be true", how droll

>>17768888
Quads of truth, I kneel.

>>17762222
Don't forget Jojo, who she reminds us to give it a watch
Didn't she say at one point she disliked jojofans forcing people to watch it?

>>17768888
Are you saying 12 Days of Christmas is good? You gain nothing by pretending except thinking you proved a point. Views say literally nothing about quality. Shishiwata Cooking is better than any EN collab song by far, was released at the same time as 12 Days of Christmas and has half the views because it doesn't have the combined popularity of 11 different channels.

>>17744202
Yes, she is the musician. That's why she has a ton more original songs than the others, because she writes her own songs instead of waiting for some greasy japanese man to do it for her.

>>17770860
She has more songs because she hates vtubing and wants to make music. Holomems pay for their own music so the reason people lack music is they prioritize their streaming over their music but she is the other way around. She was prepared to be the one person to skip the Minecraft sportsfest because she was going to do some of her shitty music instead and only changed her mind because the producer rescheduled. Making more music or prioritizing your music doesn't matter if it isn't any good. There's plenty of random Holo members that do actually put a priority on music, she doesn't stand out at all in that regard except perhaps in EN where most of the girls don't really like music except for Irys. But even still some of them produce better stuff than Mori.

>>17749247
>>17749659
>>17761788
>>17762304
Lol at the retards actually calling this good, holy mother of samefag

>>17750327
I can no longer tell if this is ironic schizoposting.

>>17771125
>discord/fb chat couldn't say anything good about the first one or be exposed as indians
>go back and make another attempt but this time with tts
>this is the """good""" one
It's pretty sad that these retards are still operational.

>>17772303
it's ironically unironic schizoposting.