/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I think I saw that one playing only Among Us, gonna see how that turns out

>>1740078
>Postponed debut for Nijisanji's audition and now they are graduating.
From that tweet
https://twitter.com/shirogane_yui/status/1334961401056665601

>>1740078
I remember this one getting some fair hype awhile back then stopped seeing her around.

>>1740275
Already hate her just due to the fact that she announced she would audition for Nijisanji on twitter. Learn to shut the fuck up and keep your head down. The other two are great.

>>1740376
Yeah that's just really dumb of her, I thought that put companies off as well

Well, I guess we can test with this
https://youtu.be/z8cEIOciL9Y

Does she know Japanese? I know niji tends to prefer people fluent in Japanese

>>1740477
She seems to be fluent. If she really is the 3rd member then it might mean that they had Japanese fluency as a private requirement.

>>1740275
Well, we have our first potential yab girl I guess. Don't know why she'd say that shit publically.

>9 videos
>last one was 4 months ago
Did she just made those videos to show she can stream, or?

>>1740275
Lol, why would she post this? Just go "Taking a break, I've got a cold" or something.

>>1740477
Nova, Mint and Yui are all fluent in Japanese so it seems like Nijisanji wants them to be able to collab with the Japanese branch

>>1740078
Cute model.

Anon, did you find any contact between her and the other two? Anything, from vague stuff such as likes on Twitter, to ultra-specific replies to the graduation tweets?

>>1740522
>Low Quality

Niji is scraping the bottom of the barrel and probably just lucked out with Nova.

>>1740461
>that fake as fuck laugh
>that fake as fuck crying
Also what part of her behavior is "yakuza". Bitch, keyfabe properly!
Also, she sounds like she is trying to imitate someone.

>>1740406
I dont know about Ichikara but thats an auto disqualification if you audition for Cover. Dont ask me how I know

>>1740582
>and probably just lucked out with Nova
And Mint. If anything she's looking to be the runt of a good litter.

>I'll still be lurking
Yeah, she's probably one of the next NijiENs. That, or the indie vtuber scene suddenly decided to die overnight.

screencapped in case she decides to delete it

>>1740581
Maid Mint and Ryuusei Nova were part of the same vtuber circles but this girl was from a completely different clique that's more Twitch core.
Guess Nijisanji isn't trying to hire out groups. I'd actually bet she's the last one though and that they're debuting 3 girls.

>>1740078
>they

>>1740645
if they hire her after this tweet I will laugh my ass off

I wish she had any videos of herself that weren't part of collabs, it's hard to get a feel for her talents and weaknesses.

>no homos
I'll now watch your organs

>>1740275
This behavior seems really out there, like she sees the whole thing as very transactional and cold. No passion and unprofessional.

>>1740670
>debuting 3 girls
I doubt it. This isn't Korea, the market is large enough to support 5 girl debuts.

>>1740500
>>1740545
I think they realized if you can't built up an foreign fanbase then at least you can have Japanese fanbase with it, that is why more than half of new nijiKR knows Japanese

>>1740670
Hiring from the same clique does have its advantages, the trust and chemistry is already there for collabs, and if they're within driving distance they can do offcollabs, particularly live singing.

Another rat for the debut date : someone repeating it's gonna be the second week of April when asked here
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/1168350/#1168989
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/1648860/#1684996
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/1633440/#1691715

>>1740734
China's market is bigger than ours but they're still conservative about debuts. They can just go for bigger batches later after looking at this one, three seems to be their hot spot for testing out waters.

>>1740461
>>1740589
This bitch introduced herself as a "Hololive Reject"
https://youtu.be/z8cEIOciL9Y?t=1027
If she really goes into Niji, than Ichikara is setting itself a bomb.
I don't want to hate on her from a single video, but she's rubbing me the wrong way.

Sara Hoshikawa was like this when she auditioned for Holo and Nijisanji. Her follower pretty much knew when she debuted. This isn't really bad

>>1740794
Her voice is cute, honestly. She could play a loli well. In fact she just might.

>>1740812
Yeah, I fully expect her to settle into the zone of "rubs everyone the wrong way and pisses people off but never does anything actually offensive".

The other two seem like sweet girls which is nice but it's good for Nijisanji to try out different characters.

>>1740834
>generic loli voice
Bro you may as well watch nyanners. Hard no from me.

>>1740780
Probably not the debut videos, but an official announcement the character designs or at the very least their silhouettes, in corporate speech April would be "the beginning of the marketing campaign for Nijisanji English", that's how I intend to interpet those posts.
The serious actual debut for real would be in May, as per:
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/1168350/#1202406

>>1740858
Hey now, Nyanners is a harsh comparison. I'll wait and see if she does (or has done) anything horrible before judging her like that.

>>1740834
Maybe I'm just being a dick - I have the tendency - but she sounds more like someone imitating a loli voice, than an actual loli voice.

>>1740855
They always do this. There's always a potentially yab/eccentric character that comes along. It's nijisanji after all

>>1740078
another nobody, I'm kinda starting to lose hope..

>>1740078
Her previous model is cute. It's a shame that she's graduating

>>1740908
You know Subaru, Sora and Okayu were nobodies as well, right? All of HoloEN was a bunch of nobodies.
That's not a bad thing by itself.

>>1740908
You think all hololive girls were something before? lol Those girls are more known than Kiara, Calli or Ame were.

She's pro-loli at the very least.

>>1740940
To be fair, Kiara, Gooruh, Ina, and Mori were hardly "nobodies"

>>1740908
We're not as bad as Japan or China but apparently 2/3rds of vtubers over here get less than 3 viewers most of the time. All three girls are basically as successful as you can expect without going viral with mainstream internet like Project Melody. The other two are bigger than most hololives and nijisanjis in Japan were before they got picked up.

>>1740992
>The other two are bigger than most hololives and nijisanjis in Japan were before they got picked up
You would expect at least this after the vtuber boom

>>1740979
Only Ina and Gura. Kiara, Mori and Ame had niche publics much like those vtubers.

>>1740965
SHE'S BACK ON THE MENU LADS. CUNNY ABOVE ALL ELSE.

>>1740965
Well Nijisanji are no strangers to small girls

>>1741042
Kiara is a well known NND streamer in Japan. That's why 5ch is seething at her. Mori's music videos had gone viral months before she even debuted. I would say that Ame is the only person in the group that could qualify as a "nobody" and she's the special diamond in the rough holo, to simply put it

Being a nobody doesn't matter because it's whwt they bring to the table is what will convince the recruiters. That's why they have to provide a video and show their profile of content. Everyone knows that the moment they are slapped as niji or holo they will get at least 50k viewers on their debut. The problem will be is if they can keep atleast 1% of those viewers.

>>1741257
I do like the hololive EN girls but I feel like Nijisanji's hiring strategy is better here. The actual talent is there with the EN girls but shit like Mori's irregularity is a problem. People gave Amelia shit at her debut but it became apparent very quickly that she was the only one actually comfortable producing streamer content.

You're right. The brand has enough selling power that looking at talents with smaller fanbases is smart. These girls can pull in at least 100 people without help, getting any more is basically just luck and marketing. They're clearly not going to be bad.

Then there's the thing where the girls will be doing singing reps and the like in order to prepare before the debut proper, paperwork isn't the only reason they're retiring

Missing one in her follows, guess who

>>1741389
>Kiara anti
WTF I love her now

>>1741257
Nijisanji JP gets around 20 to 30k on their debuts. But yeah, there's not even that much EN vtubers bigger than them and if they are hiring someone who is not a vtuber we won't find them that quickly.

>>1741193
Yes, I known they were known but they had small circles. If we go by that same reasoning, Mint and Nova were known in the Indie EN scene.

>>1741389
Do the other two also follow HoloENs?

Wait, she didn't debut? How does that work exactly? She's literally streamed with a rigged model. https://twitter.com/shirogane_yui/status/1373378411058626560

>>1741572
Lots of Vtubers make videos before a proper debut. It's clear in her case she was more interested in getting into an agency than being part of a small group anyway.

>>1740589
>>1740794
>>1740898
For all my criticism of her, credit where credit is due, she's good at filling dead air. Whatever that channel was, it wasn't her first one.
She can be pretty entertaining if one isn't rubbed off by the things I've noted.

>>1740979
Senzawa is the only one who even weebs might have heard about before HoloEN

>>1741572
wait so vtweeters just have to be vtweeters until they make it?

>>1741365
I only paid attention to Mint, so as far as I know she's the only one that did her singing reps, did the others do the same?
Also this makes me wonder if there are other vtubers that got accepted but are staying quiet.

>>1741572
She didn't do a intro/debut stream of her own and streamed exclusively game collabs. A bit unusual if you ask me.
>>1741639
lol nope

>>1741572
Debuts in the English indie scene aren't the same thing as corporate debuts. They're basically a big networking event to indicate that a vtuber is done learning, wants to be part of the community and is ready to start getting boosts and make real content.
It sounds stupid but it's that way because it works way better than debuting corporate style.

>>1741685
you'd think they'd do a 5-10 minute intro video at least, but this one in particular didn't

>>1741560
Nova doesn't follow any of the HoloEN and Mint follows all of HoloEN. Nova seems more selective with who she follows desu.

>>1741605
Yeah I'm not really criticizing the pick by Niji here, I'm just more curious how someone can livestream with their chuuba persona and fully rigged model and still not have a debut.

>>1740078
Well well well
Nijisanji got people talking with all these retirements.

If it is Niji they better not go cheap on the avatars because there will be alot of shit talking if the talents new avatars arent rigged as well or look as good as their indie avatars

>>1740965
This is the quality I was looking for
>>1741389
Based

>>1740275
Congrats to her

>>1741745
Then which ones do these three suspect NijiEN follow in Nijisanji? Hana? Usual suspects who did a reasonable amount of Eigo reps like Hoshikawa and Sukoya?
If we are to believe they will join Nijisanji, this could affect who they want to be.

>>1740965
thats a good sign

>>1741793
Indie vtubers have a lot of avatars with much better rigging than any corporate, including hololive and nijisanji, so I don't think this really will make anything. Holo fans also eat up the mediocre 3D all the time so if that happened, I don't think it would make much difference.

I'm really curious if NijiEN is going to be recruiting from people who aren't vtubers. Hololive has a very large number of performers who didn't have vtuber backgrounds. Meanwhile, we already have 3 chuubas for NijiEN who were also chuubas before.

>>1740959
Kiara was certainly something ....she brought all her schizo antis with her.

>>1740965
>>1741389
>>1741572
Cunny lover and Kiara anti cancels out the Vtweeter attitude.

>>1741907
Nijisanji probably had a much smaller pool to pick from due to relative fanbase over here. I think it'd make sense if they chose only from vtubers, especially since they got to go after hololive EN and get the advantage of knowing that previous numbers don't mean much

>>1741907
>we already have
The only thing we have is rrats

>>1741663
She streamed on Twitch too and evidently I must've found her through a raid at some point but idk how different her Twitch content was from her Youtube stuff. Doesn't look like she deleted or privated any of her YT stuff either. I'm guessing she had other content from before this.
>>1741659
Nova is ok imo, she did a lot of karaoke streams but doesn't have the strongest voice.

>>1741907
(voice) actresses and singers are the go-to non-vtubers, the point is that corps want people who are already able to stream, play games and use vtuber phone apps rather than starting from scratch
i really don't think anyone is going to pull a fumi and spend months to teach grandma what is a controller, corps understand there is money to be made and they want it quick before everyone is immune to corona-chan

>>1740545
While her Japanese isnt up there, if Kani applied she would get accepted

>>1742027
it's why they're so obsessed with securing "multi-talented" people with their audition

>>1741853
After I checked, Nova girl is following quite a bit of niji like Kanae, Kuzuha and Toko, she knows Japanese so

lol if nijien get at least on Ina numbers will be already a miracle

>>1742074
People keep saying this but at the very least most of this board will be watching even if it's just to antipost. Everyone knows Nijisanji as Hololive's competitor.

>>1740858
Perhaps her design can save it

>>1742074
ina's live watchers is a high bar indeed

>>1742105
I will be watching for sure.
But I'm less of a "likes watching others play vidya" type of guy and more of a "Likes girls showing off their talents and the occasional ASMR" person. I'm not hopeful about finding someone worth my time.

>>1742015
Idk if this exploit still works but you can retrieve deleted VODs on twitch by using this method. It's how doxxfags got Gura, Ame and Ina's roommate's twitch VODs. All you need is a link to the original VOD though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/jp40th/devin_nash_finds_out_that_deleting_years_of_clips/gbda3np

>>1740965
>>1741389
Kiara anti and pro-loli?
I'm gonna sub, be a member and donate

>>1741639
being bilingual is a MAJOR advantage

I think the elephant in the room is the Japanese audience involvement with the English branches. I can see people in Japan drawing fanart of Gura, listening to Mori, watching Ina draw and so on.
But would the Japanese ever give a damn about Nijisanji English when they have like 100 native people of theirs streaming in Japanese with basically zero dead hours?

>>1740078
How is she graduating if she never created content?

>>1742577
You underestimate new thing hype. If they've got a loli for fanartists to latch onto like Gura I'm sure they'll rope a lot of artists in too.

>>1742577
If they are interesting and speak enough Japanese then probably? The most popular Korean has an almost entirely Japanese audience and even collabs with Kuzuha.

To be honest, if they can't find an EN version of Mito or at least Touya, they will not make it, all of these girls seem like seiso type or try hard cutesy type which can't compete with holoEN girls, they need to debut with atleast one crazy personality to gain some big buzz

>>1742577
Bora's audience is almost entirely Japanese and Hana frequently gets SC's during her celebration streams from Japanese fans aswell as messages in her tags from those Japanese fans.

>>1740965
Shes not anti loli but shes not "pro loli" she just thinks gura isnt one. Not even flat chested short girl is a loli

>>1742728
Shut up, she's a pedo just like me.

>>1742728
She liked this tweet that called her a loli as well.

>>1742048
I despise Artemis with all my might but for some reason I don't dislike Kani, really wish she applies and get accepted. I want to see her succeed and leave shartemis behind

>>1742577
A nijiKR girl had more views than Matsuri and Towa when three collabed, you tell me?

>>1742790
They would just collab with her afterwards. You can't escape.

>>1742577
The designs and concepts would HAVE to be appealing enough to get people interested. The girls would have to use their best sounding voices. Nijisanji needs one eyebrow raiser. something unique that brings in hype.

Theres also the fact that are so many lesser-known Nijis that would use callabs with EN as an opportunity to get out of obscurity

>>1741042
>>1741193
Kiara was popular enough to have a fanbase here in brazil and be invited to concerts

>>1742790
Kani might've applied and didn't make it or she's not confident in herself in getting accept atm, who knows what her plans are.

>>1742818
Why is life so unfair? I don't want to hate Kani

>>1742074
Ina numbers are like 10k so idk wtf are you talking about. Nijisanji don't have the reach of hololive in teh west, although they are the second agency from JP with the most reach out here.

The thinking should be lower than Kiara, so Holo ID Gen 2 levels.

>>1742794
By a few viewers...but also the 3 of them were playing Apex and the niji was the better one.

I am going to laugh my ass of if after this spate of speculation they dont launch it for another quarter of a year or something.

>>1742890
I don't know how big a deal that is. Companies often promote weak talents internationally in order to sell them as a foreign niche.
A friend of mine is a small celebrity in China because his music agency couldn't sell him in America.

>>1742890
Do not lie, Kiara was just a jury on a random cosplay contest and that's it
She probably used her idol connections to get there because she always hints on her zatsudans how she abused of her connections in the past.

>>1742945
Few viewers? It was like 800 more viewers from a random Niji KR against two hololives with much more subs. It was a humilation.

>>1742945
Just give you one example of Japanese audience of their foreign branch

>>1743057
In difference, because all the jp holos can break 1k views easily.

>>1742577
say hello to your new nijiEN(female)

>>1743057
>It was a humilation.
How the team was happy to finish 16th in the tournament? Sure was. At least it wasn't Happy Set V2.

>>1740078
Literally who?

>>1743205
The girl you'll be seeing posted on this board for months to come in either a good or bad sense, give her a warm welcome.

>>1743240
Take medication, friend. It's just another failed indie.

>>1743257
Yeah, that's why she hinted she'd be coming back after graduating after postponing her debut to audition for Nijisanji.

>>1742717
>>1742723
>>1742794
Bora is like a card-carrying JLPT N1 and a pretty damn good FPS player (by vtuber standards), Nijisanji is lucky that HoloKR doesn't exist in this timeline.
Hana is definitely the more interesting case as she is half-Japanese but bad with kanji, and streaming in a mix of English and Indonesian which should be hard on JOP ears.
>>1742879
>Theres also the fact that are so many lesser-known Nijis that would use callabs with EN as an opportunity to get out of obscurity
I'm sure the INs and IDs are salivating at the idea. We'll see what these self-admitted "Hololive rejects" - I can't think of a more honest description - can pull off.
>>1743164
As soon as I saw Wolfgang I was certain it was going to be a chick wwww
>>1742947
Can they even afford to wait when HoloEN VSinger started the audition before NijiEN?

It seems every day now we get a new graduation and speculation. I wonder if Nijisanji is purposefully timing their graduation announcements for publicity purposes.

If I was Ichikara, I think I would spend some money on EN debuts to grab some attention. When you think of the kinds of strings they can pull as a company with their business relationships with record labels, games companies and even bigger, and the resources they have. Like they could easily launch them with original songs produced/composed by big names with higher than average quality videos or something like that. But all that seems really unlikely given how the past branches have went.

>>1743340
With Hana's case I'm willing to bet that some of her Japanese viewers who did watch her were probably interested in doing English listening reps and the ones who come back do so as a way to say thanks.

>>1743340
>Can they even afford to wait when HoloEN VSinger started the audition before NijiEN?
Hololive's success with English audiences while presents a competition also makes Vtubers in general more popular. If a proper NijiEN debuted a year ago with top tier people they probably still would have been less popular than whatever we'll be getting now after the boom caused by Hololive in the West.

>>1743511
https://twitter.com/slushmgmt/status/1339754348201402370

>>1743511
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1337284201268215810
Maybe

>>1742794
I like that these girls got first, second and fourth place in last CR cup

>>1743340
>Can they even afford to wait when HoloEN VSinger started the audition before NijiEN?
Didn't VSinger's auditions ended AFTER NijiEN stopped accepting submissions?

>>1743630
>>1743659
If they're attempting to go all out like it seems they are then that's pretty smart of them. I think it was actually good that HoloEN debuted first because it means they know exactly what they're up against and how they should respond to it.

>>1743445
It's more like they told them that NijiEN is rolling out soon so hey need to graduate by a certain date.

>>1740522
If you've been reading the Auditions general vtuber orgs often expect their vtubers to stream as other personas as practice. It's entirely possible Nijisanji told her to maintain this character just to prepare herself.

Seems she likes music.

>>1743706
See that was kind of what I was thinking, the meme about Nijisanji you see is quantity over quality. But really if they wanted to put the money into it there isn't that much stopping them making a splash with high production value material in direct opposition to that.

>>1743565
I remember that people were extremely surprised that hololive hit the english markets before nijisanji. Looking at who's probably been picked up, I'd bet money that nijisanji was waiting for hololive to go first.

>>1743825
It makes sense to be honest. Nijisanji has its following but isn't as well known, might as well go out with their best foot forward with an EN debut to get people looking.

>>1740979
Kiara's roommate was worse than a nobody. A little search of her name on internet would show her to be a walking red flag

already hate her

keep an eye on this girl too

>>1743867
Usagi Kira Ch. just announce she has a very special announcement for tomorrow.

>>1741389
aaaahhhhh I wonder why.....

>>1743139
The point is that Bora nun, a random KR vtuber, had more live viewers than them. And she has constantlt more than Matsuri and many other holos. It's a humilation to lose to K-poppers.

>>1743965
link her channel at least...

>>1744008
I wonder if her accent is cute to Japanese guys like its cute when Japanese girls are speaking English with an accent.

>>1744058
i just found out from that guy, cut me some slack
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVqE99AJFEfWDD1TCHk-nQ
could be totally unrelated though so take this with a grain of salt

>>1744008
Bora nun is like pro-level at Apex while Matsuri is awful and Towa is just ok. Whenever watching collabs you should watch the perspective of the best player if you want the highest level gameplay, everyone knows this.

>>1744094
except if kuzuha is playing then everyone just watches him anyway

>>1744110
Yeah true, but Kuzuha is at least diamond level and just hides his power level. Towa is like platinum at best and Matsuri might as well be bronze or something.

>>1744094
You'd watch someone you don't like over someone you do just because of their skill? Sad.

>>1744152
They're all in the same voice channel so I'd get to enjoy all 3 anyway. The point is a better player will have better positioning and movements to give viewers a better perspective on the state of the game. Seeing Matsuri make retarded moves is funnier when watching it from a 3rd person perspective of her teammate desperately telling her not to do the thing.

>>1743889
I'd keep it in mind as a low probability possibility just because I don't think they ever did anything like that for other branches, but it doesn't seem implausible given that tweet.

bros...is this the dreaded ~political shit~ /pol/tards are constantly bitching about?

>>1744262
a single retweet doesn't mean anything, find some original posts bitching about BLM and we'll talk

>>1743164
I could see this concept being really popular especially if the helmet off mode was a cute girl

>>1742794
>>1743057
Yet matsuri got more vod views (64000x50000)

>>1743822
I never had an oshi, but if she blasts metal on her debut...

>>1744280
blm... no results :(

>>1744313
the girl not far from 1 million subs got slightly more vod views that the girl that passed 100k recently, big win.

>>1744262
Yes, they should keep this shit on their personal twitter.

>>1744313
see >>1693044

>>1744262
>is asian
>hears about fellow asians being killed for being asian
>wants something done about it
Sure it shouldn't be on her vtuber account but come on. Why ya gonna be upset about it?

>>1744400
It's directly relevant in an asian subculture and gets them PR points with asian viewers and non-racists so it's a win/win.

>>1744262
ALM is fine if she's asian

I want an en version of this nigga

>>1744500
There'll probably be at least one male in the gen, we're just left wondering who it is

>>1743891
for a walking red flag, she didn't have any controversy as Kiara (yet). Compared to the haato and Coco drama/controversy at least.

>>1743511
That kind of thing is for the talents themselves to decide

>>1740078
I know the person behind this character. She has an e-boyfriend.

>>1744532
I wonder if that's true? Are there any successful male EN vtubers out there? If not, are there non-vtuber content creators they could pick up?
Assuming they maintain hiring JP-fluent talents I don't know very many but I'm sure there's 1 or 2 they could hire I guess.

>>1744578
well luckily nijisanji isn't an idol company so purity is a non-issue

>>1744578
Yeah it's me. Don't worry we don't live together so there's no risk of yab.

>>1744578
Might as well open up about political affiliations, blood type, zodiac sign and age if you're so knowledgeable and nonchalant.

They must get someone at least who is weird/out there enough to get people to say the meme "this is nijisanji" type line. They have managed to do it with all the other branches I think.

>>1744487
>being lectured by e-thots
Not to mention the type of people this will bring. You want the chat room filled with Twitter spergs demanding [fad political issue] chants?
American politics is a perpetual hot button issue that is prime to generate scandals, raiding, and harrasment. Makes the chinks look civilized.

>>1744578
Since she's not pretending to be an idol, she'll be controversy free at least

>>1744687
She made a single retweet, relax. No tweets about politics. She won't bring it up on stream.

>>1744587
anon... it's Ichikara... if they were that peculiar about their chuubas being succesful they wouldn't open a branch in fucking India

>>1744500
Youre getting Kamiya Juu and youre going to like it

>>1744687
Anon not murdering asian people isn't actually a political issue. Just because it has a hashtag attached to it doesn't mean it's some culture war shit.

>>1744587
It’s going to be gigguk. There will be polarizing opinions about him on this board just like with Nyanners and Artemis

>>1744647
Dont want to out myself in the process. Havent interacted with her much, she just struck me as a stereotypical e-girl when we played ffxiv

>>1744800
Don't speak his name. I'll rape you.

>>1743822
if she plays powermetal, she will be my oshi

>>1744500
They need at least EN Kenmochi or EN Chaika to be able to make it

>>1744800
Gigguk doesn't have any actual talent just like his ugly wife. Ichikara may hire nobodies but they're not incompetent enough to hire someone that has 0 draw power outside of their name/brand which they aren't allowed to use. At that point they should just hire a nobody, at least they can pay them less.

Besides Gigguk works full-time for Kadokawa.

>>1744800
>gigguk
who? care to tell some narrative?

>>1744804
What's with this game? It's like the next WoW considering I can't escape from it wherever I go.
I skimmed through her yt catalog and still don't know what she's about. A bit of a mystery.

>>1744594
blue ayame...

Considering how unsubtle she comes off, I guess it makes sense she’s in. I remember checking her streams, which are only collab streams, so I can’t remember her personality outside of her loli voice. Oh well, she’ll re-debut by herself anyway

All that’s left is waiting for the guys

>>1744135
>and just hides his power level
pffftt fucker is not even the ebst vtuber apex and they all suck against real players.

>>1744947
Its fun, you can try it for free up to level 60 :)

>>1744711
I didn't meant to make it appear that I'm going after her. I'm sure that once under the corporate umbrella she'll behave like a good drone. I just wanted to illustrate why it's bad beyond a 'tards point of view.
>>1744755
Under normal circumstances. But right now it has a hashtag and a massive presence in media. I don't want any political mobs getting ideas.

>>1744869
Anime “reviewer”/blogger. Summarises seasonal anime peppered with memes, and has a podcast with other guys like him. You know, the one of the guys who interviewed Mori?

>>1744976
Gachikois follow every company but there’d be a big difference between how her fans reacted and how a Hololive member’s fans would react if it turned out she had a boyfriend

>>1744500
Unfortunately if that happens, he probably will be canceled faster than Aloe quit Hololive

>>1744008
is a moot point since Bora strongest point is she is good at apex. is like cmparing kuzu views during a toruney and a nomral day of apex.
Is the equivalent of comparing kiryu coco views during meme review to any other girl.
>its humiliation
towa got second place in that tourne, matusri 4th and no one had hope on them.

>>1745123
>he doesnt know that several holos have boyfriends and some are even married

>>1744262
yes

>>1744976
It's more like that the problem is having Kuzuha as boyfriend rather than having a boyfriend in general

>>1745188
NO!

>>1745166
That’s the first thought I had but after thinking about it I don’t actually think this would be the case, by now even girls seem to be more accustomed to the degen otaku culture so many vtubers absorb themselves in, especially if they’re already familiar with Nijisanji and vtubers in general. So as long as it’s treated half comically and not taken too seriously I don’t think it’d be a problem

>>1745334
>>1745166
>>1744500
QRD on this guy? From what I know of Nijisanji they have some massive degen males, I find it hard to believe they'd fire someone for being too otaku unless he's a sex offender or something.

>>1744976
think that was typical anti bandwagoning mostly in the end look at how much the dislikes dropped off after one video, nobody is even talking about it anymore and if she streamed everyday it probably would have normalised already

>>1744008
Bora had shit viewership until the Japs discovered her during the Hal tourney. Apex is like Fortnite in Japan, no surprise she inclined hard after that.
Matsuri sucks at Apex and keeps grinding it and Towa is alright.

>>1740794
God I hope this is false alarm. Please tell me this is false alarm. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

>>1745006
The safe bet is having the Nijimales being some ex-semipro in CSGO, DOTA or LoL, that's just the male equivalent of GFE since guys are retarded and don't know how to properly fujobait.

>>1745386
don't sperg out over a joke

>>1744976
>>1745123
Lol, that's just Vtuber antis bandwagon

>>1745371
Yeah most of the people giving her shit weren’t even fans of her or even of Kuzuha.

>>1745386
Hskw openly said how badly she wanted the akai haato role. no big deal

>>1745431
A moba addict might work for an EN vtuber I guess but mobas are so polarizing unlike FPS. If he plays Dota then LoL players won't watch, if he plays LoL then Dotards won't watch, etc. It's probably not worth the headache.

>>1745431
fujobait is a failure. Nijisanji's designated fujobaits are at rock bottom and Kanae only got relevant after he changed his outfit and reverted to using his natural voice.

>>1745431
>mobas
yeah cant wait for they to get sniped and bullied out of the game

>>1745519
Does fujobait even work outside of Japan?

>>1745519
also apex saved his numbers.
Eerytime he plays anything else he thanks same for shibuya
it seems you can only be a hihgly succesful male if you are good at that shitty as game

>>1745431
EE as vtuber.
But yeah, having someone who competent enough as gamer is an advantage compared to other EN vtuber companies

>>1745519
>>1745549
minecraft youtubers have an insanely dedicated fujobait audience at the moment believe it or not. just check out twitter whenever one of those fags like dream streams. i think if they got 2 guys that had good chemistry it could work

>>1745549
No it's even worse outside of Japan. Women simply don't have an interest in some BFE shit when he can't buy them gifts or pay for their dinner or give them a good dicking. That's the kinda thing they're accustomed to, they don't rely on fictional characters or actors for emotional affection.

>>1745519
What are you people even referring to when you say fujobait

>>1745431
those guys are already successful without having an anime avatar on. Tourney money + csgo/dota/lol fans + no corporate cut to deal off.

feels like I'm spoiling myself by checking out these nijien candidates before their debuts, but then again I want to see how many of these guesses will actually land. such a fucking dilemma

>>1745605
there's a ton of dota/lol streamers who aren't pros or even semi-pros. along with covid ruining the competitive season for dota i could see a lot of players wanting to be vtubers on youtube instead of competing on twitch for scraps.

imagining mason as a vtuber, that would be so fucking kino. he'd probably get fired after like 2 days when he sexually harasses HSKW and calls her a "fucking bitch" for not sending ass pics.

>>1745630
I think that's just how it'll go at this point, you can bet the moment HoloEN Gen 2 gets an announcement trailer people will frantically looking for any indies that graduated from around that time.

>>1745605
I'm thinking of like people who were in a collegiate scene or maybe even played for an organization on the NA challenger series but never made it to LCS. I'm not talking about guys like bjergsen or dendi.

>>1740794
I wonder what she thinks of the girls who made it all the way to debut. Hope she's not bitter about not quite making the cut.

>>1745693
>I could see a lot of players wanting to be vtubers on youtube instead of competing on twitch for scraps.
Where do you guys get this idea that vtuber is so fucking big or someshit? It's still a niche.

>>1743164
That helmet looks retarded

>>1742720
To be fair Uto got her following in part by playing hard into the seiso archetype so there's clearly a niche out there that HoloEN hasn't yet filled

>>1745569
He had like 25k+ when he played Papers Please

>>1743164
Riku... I have a MIGHTY need

>>1745776
working for a company like nijisanji or hololive is still a stable income compared to being a twitch streamer relying 100% on donations

>>1745630
Didn't /jp/ guess almost all of holoEN pre-debut?

>>1745821
I was there and DD and se***** were both guesses upon reading the character descriptions but the other 3 were only guessed after debut

>>1743850
No at that point in time NijisanjiEN already existed, its just that it existed as their rebranded India branch. Its clear from that alone that they really didn't think much of the English market and judging from how long it took them to get their en branch out and how they've been trying to copy hololive, EN's success probably caught them completely by surprise too.

>>1745776
I saw OGE streaming to 85 people a week or two ago. Pro players streaming careers drop at the dime of a hat once they start being seen as "washed up" or if they stream another game like he was. If you were to give some CSGO Global Elite player the Niji fanbase he'd probably be ecstatic since he knows that some people might stick around for the avatar if he plays like dogshit or if he plays another shooter.

>>1745845
>DD
Acceptable, since it was /jp/ they would've been aware.
>se*****
Wait, was her bio that obvious?

>>1745947
she stopped activities

>>1745947
it's funny but i actually thought zawa might've been mori when i heard the rapping thing but then other anons brought up DD. but zawa's name was always discussed because people found it suspicious how she disappeared. there's a reason "IT'S HER" was a meme, it was hotly debated for a long time

>>1745909
csgo has like no audience outside of twitch addicts though. it's a godawful spectator game, people just randomly die or your vision gets fucked by flash or smoke bombs.

>>1744800
Eh, /vt/ is practically a reddit colony these days and they fucking love gigguk. If he does debut as part of nijien he'll probably be loved here too.

>>1745908
Standard Japanese business mentality. For some reason they don't think anyone outside of Japan thinks about them.

>>1745802
I'm talking bout the popularity. Sure the money is stable but vtuber is still niche outside the Japanese entertainment fandom. Like how Minecraft kiddies and OTV get massive views but still unknown to others like this board or avg joes, you could say the same for the avg twitch streamer or pro-ex players knowing what vtuber is.

>>1746009
>>1746013
>how she disappeared
Didn't she use to go ghost for a while before? Or was her "death" that suspicious?

>>1745519
>Nijisanji's designated fujobaits are at rock bottom and Kanae only got relevant after he changed his outfit and reverted to using his natural voice
What are you talking about, he is constantly at the top of Japan Vtuber since his debut

>>1745431
Dendi vtuber let goooo

>>1746136
I'm pretty sure vtubers are well known within "perpetually online" subcultures like streamers. If you go to livestreamfail(a subreddit for twitch clips) vtubers get mentioned fairly often. Even wallstreetbets will have hololive references in the comments all the time. People who live on the internet just have a very different world compared to normies, and streamers tend to occupy the internet world more than the real one. Especially when like 75% of the top LoL and Dota streamers are weebs I'm sure most of them have heard of vtubers, Hololive are basically the new Touhou/Kancolle/etc in 2020 and possibly 2021.

>>1746039
That's true, it's just that a lot of CSGO's skills can be transferred to other FPS's from what I've seen. I could just imagine some vtuber going around in different games like Shroud and basically doing pubstomps. People would clip his highlights across all these different game communities and he'd build an audience like that. The problem though is that FPS games tend to be very in "meta" so you wouldn't see much games outside Fortnite, Valorant, Apex, and with the occasional COD or RS6 popping in whenever big streamers and youtubers are playing it.

>>1745784
>To be fair Uto got her following in part by playing hard into the seiso archetype
Nope, she got big because of holo name, and nijiEN is fucking tame if you watch japanese vtuber, basically the EN market lack of crazy , weird shit contents

>>1746120
No I don't think that applied to them. If they really thought so they wouldn't have had four foreign branches, even in places that don't make sense like India. Its just that for some reason the English market slipped them by.

>>1746347
*holoEN

>>1746347
I mean there's no lack of crazies in the EN scene, its just crazy in a different sense.

>>1746347
there's already a bunch of crazy weird shit vtuber content, it's just that they are on twitch. Now, if there are people who'd prefer to watch it on yt rather than twitch, that'd be the real question

>>1746272
It makes me sad that Ame didn’t stick to CSGO when she joined hololive. She used to play a lot in the sachiowo days

>>1746347
>>1746435
If that was the only factor myholotv and tsunderia would be flipping massive but instead they are stuck sucking indie cock. Having hololive connections just gives you a hook, you still need to be appealing in some way in order to actually keep any of the audiences

>>1746510
Her parents only CSGO stream was a bad experience for her: too many trolls

>sucking OTV cock = massive growth
>hololive = OTV in vtuber world
>sucking hololive cock = massive growth
fucking yagoo and his brand

>>1744313
You know that one has 800k and the other has like 100k right

>>1746785
You know that, if NijiEN gets enough momentum, they're gonna become OTV in vtuber world, right?

>>1746520
Branding is powerful. Hololive could put out a vtuber with a mediocre model, bad tracking, and a shit voice, and they would still be more successful than 99% of the indies out there based on strength of name alone. Their numbers would be trash compared to other Holos, but indies would still kneel

Tsunderia and MyHolo have quality (had, in the case of MyHolo), but quality is useless if no one has ever heard of you

>>1746785
You're just jealous your cock isn't getting sucked for free

>>1741389
okay based. I will watch your debut now

>>1744400
she doesnt have a personal twitter

>>1746903
They already missed the vtuber spike for the English market.
Do you really think they'll get that big of a momentum?

>>1740592
how do you know?

>>1743164
Punished Aloe.

>>1746785
What's otv?

>>1748230
Offline TV. The one that has pokimane and lilypichu.

>>1744284
There's a fad right now in mobages and anime of having cute girls in bulky suits of armor but wearing nothing but a bikini or leotard underneath.
The lore justification is that the armor is hot and makes them sweaty but it makes for good fanservice and could be a good vtuber gimmick.

>>1743964
Kek, an anti-numberfag

>>1740275
Literally nothing wrong with this. Holy fuck. Are you fucks literal autist?

>>1748793
people stopped bitching about it 100 posts ago anonchama, she looks fine

>>1747486
I hope so. If only so hololive starts trying or dies in the west. A healthy amount of competition wouldn't be bad (as long as either fanbase can stop themselves from bringing /pol/ shit into it).

>>1748909
>as long as either fanbase can stop themselves from bringing /pol/ shit into it
you and i both know that isn't happening

>>1741389
based based based

>>1748793
She became our oshi once we found out she defended the rights of cunny. All is forgiven anon-kun.

>>1745367
Just a massive cunnybrain

>>1748925
It hasn't happened yet with holoEN.
Hope is the last thing one loses.

>>1749027
i take it you've never been in a kiara or mori split thread...

>>1749056
I mean, they keep it to the circlejerk and the talents themselves have managed to avoid it thus far.

>>1740780
l*serbait stop leaking shit again

I don't get why everyone is so sure that nijien will have holoID numbers or worse, they are still under the brand nijisanji and direct competitors of the holoEN girls, people are going to get curious and I predict minimum 60k live viewers for the first debut.

I’m interested if they are allowed to collab with EN just like JP and ID

>>1746785
What am I even looking at, I only see random colors

>>1748262
Don't forget Michael Reeves. He literally saved them in 2019 from falling into obscurity. Half of OTV's fans now are only engaged with them because of him.

>>1749635
lol no, nijiJP new debut hardly has 30k first stream

>>1749756
Nah, people care about because of cute asian girls and yellow/white fever

>>1749753
Wellcome to numbrain

>>1749814
I'll grudgepost you

>>1740645
She did delete it, kek https://twitter.com/shirogane_yui/status/1334961401056665601

>>1740645
>>1749981
SHE'S

>>1749981
NIJIEN IKZZZZZZZZZZ

>>1749981
>Kiara anti
>Cunny connoisseur
>/vt/ browser
>and a giant retard to boot

This one has a lot of promise

>>1749981
>>1750023
>>1750080
Well, that one is confirned,
now waitting for other two girls

>>1749981
I wrote "she got in" or something similar, so I think I reminded her of the tweet, kek

>>1740645
>>1749981
Amazing, how's your day going Yui?

>>1749981
can't wait for the debut

>>1750152
I love Yui’s design. I hope the new one lives up to it

Yuichama, when's the debut?

>>1749981
so /vt/ grooming actually works?
amazing

>>1750145
What if KFP was right and the discord buddies who were the ones falseflagging as them was her and the rest of Domo's crew?

>>1750229
second week of april
let goooooooo

>>1750361
Thanks Risu.

>>1749981
Good luck and all the best.

it's kind of a bad look going around admitting that the company you were accepted to was your plan B, I hope her content makes up for it

>>1750776
The way she acts reminds me of mori but without the music so I don't really have any hope for this one

>>1750776
Nah, Hololive gen 1 auditions happened way before NijiEN auditions. Everyone who applied to HoloEN 1 auditions probably also applied to NijiEN since at the time there was nothing else happening.

>>1751145
yeah, but I still don't think it's something to go around speaking proudly about. gives the whole gen a "hololive reject" association

>>1751866
Oof, you're right, that'd be very bad publicity. And if clipfaggots push that angle, with the attention span of the global audience, that'd be the predominant view.

I know this is mostly speculative, but would having an all-female group be the better option for NijiEN nu1st? or could they go dualsex?

>>1752438
Safer option would be all girls for the first gen.
Having a guy when there's no successful vtuber guys in the west is a huge gamble.

>>1752438
I'd assume they'd go all girls for first gen to compete with holo, then maybe include some boys for the following.

>>1752438
if they really do go with the all-female angle there'll be absolutely nothing distinguishing them from hololive so i hope they stick a male in there somewhere

>>1740275
It's deleted. What did it say?

>>1752700
scroll up

>>1752438
Has two males is the best option, at least the guys can collab with themselves if somehow the girls get large radical purity fanbase

>>1750145
>/vt/ browser
>people will shit talk her here and it will affect her
nice. prepare for a menhera

>>1752970
One male is the best option because it would make Holofags seethe when HoloEN and NijiEN do an all member Among Us collab and it turns into a harem anime scenario.

>>1753802
i dont undertand your logic.

>>1753971
What's hard to understand? A collab with 9 women and 1 man is more yab than 8 women and 2 men where the men are left to talk to eachother. Forcing the only man to interact with the women creates more potential yab situations and rrats.

>>1741623
She collabed with othersand played Phasmophobia and Among Us. Where the fuck would there be any opportunity for dead air?

>>1754006
but how will that make people seethe?
and doubt niji will put 10 EN debuts.

>>1754080
>and doubt niji will put 10 EN debuts
they just might

Why was she going to debut so late when she already had her live2d ready and used in collabs as early as september 2020?

>>1754103
that would be stupid.

>>1754152
they've done more in the past

>>1754080
Anon I think you need to read my post again.

I said Holofags will seethe if the 5 members of HoloEN collab with the 5 members of NijiEN and 1 of the NijiEN members is a male. Because Hololive is a pure idol company and HoloEN especially have been extremely sheltered from interacting with outside vtubers. Unlike HoloJP where Matsuri and Fubuki shamelessly collab with men the HoloEN fans will be completely blindsided by it.

>>1754199
the girls have been on the chats and congratulated the holostars tough. And viceversa.
You dont really watch a lto fo holo i assume.

>>1754247
I watch more Holo than Niji. They interact with Holostars on Twitter but Ame hasn't been allowed to collab with Astel or Shien even though she wanted to.

>>1754275
uh?
thats not true, ame never initiates collabs and astel has said he doesnt want shipping (altough not with those words)
Is similar to ollie and astel adn ollie fans are mostly eops.

>>1754359
>ame never initiates collabs
anon do you seriously believe all the JP girls reached out to ame for collabs when she's the least fluent EN member and also the most socially awkward? If they were gonna do that why didn't they pick Ina or Mori or Kiara?
I'm not criticizing you I just find it hard to believe since Ame's collabs are so generally cringe.

>>1754424
>do you seriously believe all the JP girls reached out to ame
those are her words not mine. Thast why i said you dont watch a lot of them.
jeez there is a reason no high profile holo collabed with ame in 1vs1. Except for aqua but that was offcollab becasue of the language barrier. Roboco, mel and ID all went to amelia becasue she is approachable.

>>1754527
Forgive me I don't typically watch her superchat streams since I don't send superchats, so maybe I missed that tangent.

>>1749981
>check archive.is
>no archive results
you niggers suck at archiving things

>>1754995
you are blind nigger

>>1740645
>>1740794
this is quite possibly the dumbest shit i've ever seen a indie vtuber do holy fuck.
if nijiEN really picked her up she must be extremely talented or they have very low expectations.

>>1753745
Menheras are fine as long as they're not Meiro-tier.

>>1755440
Or they're setting up nijien for failure, which is a real possibility seeing IN and ID.

>>1755803
I think everyone's underestimating NijiEN, or maybe I'm underestimating what a success would be. If they get 1.5-2k+ avg viewers per stream then that's a success. That's not a very high bar with the Nijisanji brand if they're all fluent in Japanese and can pander to JP viewers looking for something different than NijiJP. That's something the HoloEN girls don't do nearly enough besides Kiara. It's also something the KR branch was forced to do since their main target audience doesn't give a shit about them. As long as they pander to JP viewers they'll have an artificial head start over all the other EN vtubers to build their brand off of.

>>1755873
>1.5-2k+ avg viewers
To anyone familiar with streaming in general that's "successful enough to to stream fulltime as a job comfortably" tier viewers and better than 99% of other streamers.

But people will just use it to numberfag/tribalism post and compare it against holoEN.

>>1756020
Yeah that's exactly how I see it. If they can stream fulltime and make a living off it then that's objectively a success. It makes EN fully sustainable and lets them expand into more EN gens which is all they need to eventually hit the "jackpot" of another Gura or Kuzuha talent.

>>1744755
she seems to think it is

>>1755873
there is no point in opening a overseas branch and not pander to the overseas market. The prblem is ichikara is copying hololive rather than work on the weaknes they face with managing an overseas branch.
Merchandise being expensive becasue of sipping costs, scdeuling being separated across 3 timezones, management needing to check every small thing. Niji en will be able to find moderate success but they are late to the party, i dont think ichikara is gonna do anything new to make the branch appeal to the english and jap market in its own way. At least not without a preferential treatment that will make old talents fans mad.
it is not a matter of if they get 2k viewers or more but how they can grow the nijinsaji firm in the west.

>>1756127
At the very least nijiEN won't have to deal with permissions bullshit right?
Maybe some of them can play big games on release instead of having to wait months to get permissions.

>>1756056
Gura exploded because of the meme in the debut and that carried her to the top, but I still don't know what made Kuzuha so successful. Is it really just the Fujo pandering?

>>1756169
Nijisanji's persmissions are not especially better than Hololive's except for Chinese games afaik.
The real advantage is that Nijisanji doesn't micromanage their talents and will let them collab with indies and generally do whatever they want. If Haachama was in Nijisanji there's no doubt in my mind they would've let her complete her horror arc and probably incorporated it into a 3D stream or something. They fully support their characters instead of stifling them and that's probably a huge deal when entering a new market you don't fully understand.

Hololive got extremely lucky that their EN branch are largely self-sufficient and don't seem to care too much about the micromanagement or collab bans, but the fanbase has certainly noticed its effects and gotten bored of them as a result. If Nijisanji can take advantage of this gap of interaction between "company vtubers" and the actual indie scene by letting their girls collab with established indies or other orgs like Pikamee or Artemis or Vshojo then it'd boost their exposure a lot and help establish Nijisanji in the west.

>>1756191
>Fujo pandering
70% of his fanbase is male, the only one have nearly 50% of female fan is Gibara and Air
>but I still don't know what made Kuzuha so successful.
Try to learn Japanese then

>>1755381
Retard. Screencaps can be contested. An archive, however, cannot.

>>1756169
niga the only thing they will have over cover is pokemon and maybe genshin impact
and the later isnt that good for streaming anymore.
if they want to succed in getting a piece of eops their infrastructure is the best chance. Ads, merchandise and othershit being more affordable to them. Since cover sucks at those aspects.
Then again if the manage to hit jackpot then they be ready for the costs of popularity that cover had to accept.

>>1756191
The same reason why dudes watch other dudes play video games on Twitch. Having an avatar based on an anime popular at the time helped

>>1755873
I think there is two definitions of "success" here. Like you said, an average of 1.5-2k viewers is definitely good enough for a streamer to make a career. The issue is that Nijisanji also has pretty high expectations on them right now since they're one of the big name companies in vtubing. People will expect certain levels of success beyond what is the minimum to make a profit. It's not financial success, it's cultural success here. 1.5-2k viewers would not only put them leagues below Hololive, their direct competition, but it would also put them below several big indies and Vshoujo, which is bad optics for the Nijisanji brand. They'll be financially successful, but lose the chance to get into the western "culture" of vtubers.

A reminder that idiotic gatekeepers like >>1756432 will always wish for NijiEN to collapse so it never panders to EOPs. As >>1756614 said, if Ichikara wants the global market, they better be ready to deal with the waves of fan retardation that follow.

>>1756614
If niji is smart they'll buy some bots to push their EN debuts to leddits front page. Half the west doesn't even know they exist, and might not find out by the time they come out

>>1756191
fujo pandering and apex.
There is areason thats the only thing he plays is that.

>>1756302
HoloEN1 is composed of three introverts (Ame, Gura, Ina), an extrovert that wants to collab with HoloJP (Kiara), and a rapper that wants to collab with regular Youtubers (Mori). They really need someone for EN2 who can branch out to indies and other corporations like JP does

>>1754199
HoloEN can barely setup a full EN collab. I really doubt they'd go through the trouble of setting up an event just to interact with a competing company.
Also just because the JP holos collab with Nijis doesn't necessarily mean the ENs will do the same.

>>1756807
holocope

>>1757015
Retard, he's right. See >>1756642. Are you >>1756432?

>>1756807
he is playing ark now and doing similar or better numbers though?

>>1757142
C O P E
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>>1756191
From what I've seen, Nijifags claim he has a hilarious commentary and that he's good at friendly trashtalking and mocking his friends and audience
Personally even if I knew japanese I would probably not watch him because he mostly streams Apex. I can only tolarate that game until a certain point

>>1757156
>doing similar numbers
beside the initial views for being a new ark arc.
Her lates vod is far lwoer than his average.
arc isnt tat good in the long run.

>>1757259
seems the same to me unless you are taking tournaments as average for apex

>>1757341
he's the usual schizo lol

>>1757341
you can compare the latest arc to the latest apex vods. Even with hafl the time apex still has more views
He has only streamed 2 days arc. But the second day is arleady half the views of the others almost.

>>1740078
Heard that she was bragging about getting into NijiEN in many places

>>1757636
yes, with other indies and close "friends"

>>1757549
I mean you can look at the apex stream he did 3 days ago and compare it to the two streams that he did before that of similar length playing random games and see they are exactly the same if you wanted? Rather than comparing the repeat of a popular collab to a normal stream or a stream that is as recent as a day ago to streams that happened weeks ago. Even while we have been having this conversation it went up 1k views.

>>1756754
The front page hates vtubers, the holo subreddit keeps pissing them off by upvoting all of the girls post to the front page.

>>1757836
most kuzuha apex stream that alst beyond 2hr alwasy manage to got around 400k. He has staying power with that game. And has build his chanel around that game now hence his incline of the last 3 mnoths with it. Last non apex stream was the bond game which also was new and also just managed less than that.
Apex is a better stream game for him and people know him for that now days, thats the image he build himself for it.

>>1758066
You can't even look at an archive properly.

>>1758066
Actually you can't read the titles of the streams can you and you are just looking at the thumbnails to try and work out what it is? That is why you think the buddy bond game is the last different game he played because the thumbnail is different.

>>1758208
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>>1758243
becasue the only other ones are EFT and that shit is usually beyond 5hrs to 10hrs long. or the one that played 5 hr apex and a mix of civ6 and smash for the rest of the other 5hrs and guess when the views decreased?
His chanel is build entirely on apex, and his views comes from that. His channel image is build around him being good at apex.

>>1758373
wrong again

>>1758393
nigga just check the views of the last month, hell even the last 2
His viewership comes from appex and he isnt playing new games anymore becasue he knows what viewers are coming from. Tartakov, mahjong, smash bros dont make a dent to most of his apex stream even none tourney ones. He is focusing his chanel around that tremednsouly since february and is part of what he is inclining.

>>1758473
But like you can look at the views of the streams just 3 or 4 days ago and see the apex stream of the same length doing exactly the same numbers as the two various games streams of a similair length.

>>1756923
>They really need someone for EN2 who can branch out to indies and other corporations like JP does
What is the point of HoloEN to collab outside of their own company? It doesn't help it in any way shape or form. They are the big dogs, everyone knows who they are already, they get more viewers and money than everyone else, why would they sabotage themselves by giving free exposure to indies?

And if you bring HoloJP into this, the majority of their top streamers usually never interact with anyone outside the company either, especially in the last year or so since they've blown up.

>>1754113
She's streamed and made short videos, but I guess she never got around to actually debuting

>>1756191
Kuzuha is literally Japanese xQc

>>1758612
Nigger maybe people are tired of the same 5 people collaborating with each other over and over, have you ever thought about that?

>>1758373
Watching his live viewers drop when he switched to smash ult was pretty funny.

>>1758612
VShojo and western indies want Hololive's recognition, which is why Enma is fucking based for not letting EN collab with them.

>>1754030
Among Us, when the mics are muted.