/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Kys incel

Holobronies are just pathetic, what can ya do?

You already knew what kind of people (quote unquote) enjoyed those things

Even worse
>Calli brought it completely on herself but no one puts her at fault and blames unicorns and incels

>twitter faggot called me mean things: the thread
Get thicker skin.

>>17346447

Tuck off incel

This is a deadbeat sub now

>>17346661
Are you talking about Mori?

>>17346447
No, Ironmouse did nothing wrong.
No, Connor did nothing wrong (outside of your cuckoldrycentred fantasies).
Yes, “Turks” are just Greeks in denial.

>>17346750
Yes.

>>17346447
fucking still?

Damn that sounds rough

>>17346447
>He watches EN
Roru

>>17346447
>caring about what other people thinks about you

>>17346447
Just don't watch English at all, like I do, and you will forget about this.

>>17346447
Have you considered getting an actual hobby?

>>17347545
>Is on a literal hobby board about watching Vtubers right now.
Are you retarded? If watching Vtubers wasn't OP's hobby then why would he be here in the first place?

I unironically hope Mori gets that cr1tikal collab she always wanted, he is actually a pretty cool guy.

>>17346447
Oh no

>>17346447
Indies and Nijis collab with real people, Jananese celebrities, their irl friends and opposite gender all the time.
But you don't watch them.

Vtubing was never how your bubble felt, you were just ignorant to the truth.
If you can't handle it, just stop watching EN. Form another personal bubble. But know that most of the world won't be in it.

>>17347781
My hobby is Hololive, not VTubers as a whole.

>>17347781

>>17347849
JP Hololive members also collab with all of those people

>>17347938
Except all those people were always in that room.

>>17346447

>>17348070
If that were true Pekora wouldn't have gone from 2k viewers per stream to 40k post HoloEn. Ironmouse too, she's been streaming since 2017 to a couple of hundred viewers to now 20k post HoloEn.

>>17347781
To be honest, my only complain is about TT because I don't see them as trustable people, I kinda respect the relationship Connor and Mouse have, but this doesn't deny the fact that he talked shit about her friend's mates, and also doesn't deny the bullshit Joey said about Nene without knowing shit. In the other hand I don't mind vshojo unless they start talking about coombaits, but until now they didn't so it's fine (But maybe is also the fact that Veibae is forbidden). Mori's statement is just pure retardation since she feels like doing something noble but in the reality she didn't do shit since like you said, JP already interacts with real celebrities and males.

>>17346447
>HoloEN ruined this hobby
Newfags like you that only watch hololive and are completely ignorant to vtubing ad a whole are ruining this board

>>17347781
>Indies and Nijis collab with real people, Jananese celebrities, their irl friends and opposite gender all the time.
How many of them are trying to infect otaku culture with their western bullshit?

>>17346447
/vt/ is unironically a mistake. Full of redditniggers.

>>17347727
I wouldn't wish that upon Charlie ever.

Cuckbeats still coping? Or is it white trash shitting up threads.

>>17347545
Have you considered going back to r*ddit you stupid normalfag?

>>17347727
If Mori could've gotten to dickride Charlie, she wouldn't have settled for Connor and we wouldn't be in this mess.
Sure, we could still be in a mess, but ut wouldn't be this one and she wpuld at least be happy.

>>17348485
That's the culture the board fostered. You can't have a hugbox without redditors.

>>17348848
No, you should've predicted i would 'ruin' your 'hobby' full of incels. i've been laughing at you since 2020

>>17348621
Charlie is apparently going to be in a collab with several NijiENs and Vshojos soon. People in the NijiEN thread said Reimu announced that in a member stream. Maybe it was bait, but it didn't look like it.

>>17349480
Honestly looking forward to the crash. Probably another year or two.

>>17346447
It's funny to see them turn on their fans and defend their fellow elites.

>>17349575
Are you implying the world is about to experience a simp shortage? Pardon my excessive laughter.

>>17346447
I don't care about gay ass words on the internet, but why do those things make you an incel? Not liking lame ass e celebs and boring collabs with lame ass companies means you ( what does incel even mean anymore)?

>>17349575
that's very naive and sweet of you

>>17346447
Maybe If you weren't a dramafag people wouldn't call you out. Wether you like it or not, only Mori and the zoombie collab with TT, and about Vshojo their Collabs with holos where just normal, being Iron rrat the one who collabed the most and whose only mistake is being friends with some people you don't like it (and whose bad traits are usually magnified, see for example the Welsh ironic weeb)

>>17348621
Kek, you made me laugh. I hope Mori is not as schizo with Critikal as some deadcucks are

>>17346447
Yep.
TT faggots don't know a single fucking thing about vtubers yet insist on shitting up the boards ad nauseam and whining whenever anyone calls out one of their twitch grifters for what they are.

If any of the Real Holos had invited dramastirring fucks like these they would already be suspended.

>>17350798
t. incel

>>17346447
>>17347938

Pretty much this. All I want to do is get away from disgusting women who trade sex for money via streaming. Hololive was meant to be a sort of antipode to that, but Holo EN and most of the cunts on this board have ruined it just as planned. Just another barrel of crabs scenario dragging everyone down.

I hope the wider Hololive company will have the good sense to keep knocking away the vultures, but Holo EN and Holo ID are pretty much done (as well as pretty much all of Nijisanji including JP).

Holo EN actually started out better than I thought they would. Holo EN had potential. Just makes it that much more of a damn waste.

>>17351530
Isn't it only like one person from EN and one from ID so far?

>>17351571
Sure, but just wait. The Mori/Ironmouse collab is a sign of things to come.

>>17351571
Yeah and I find it really weird but not surprising anons here are ready to throw the entirety of EN (and ID since that's been brought up) to the lions for this.

>>17352376
In fairness all of the asshats on here stirring up shit in favor of TT are clearly EOPs so getting rid of english speakers would purge them.
Personally I don't think that's necessary since Cover is primarily a company aimed at japanese people and they would go crazy if anyone relevant actually listened to the dumb faggot anituber's opinions.

I will not watch Cali.
I will not watch Kiara.
I will not watch Ollie.
I will not watch kson.
I will not watch Pikamee.
I will never watch or support anyone who has anything to do with vshojo.

>>17352643
Oh but you will, pet.

>>17352682
No, I will not.

>>17346447
>lowering viewer standards on this board
as if holobronies standards weren't low enough.

>>17352712
Oh but you will, pet.

>>17346479
>>17346706

kys cuck she will never fuck you

>>17348848
>He believes a corpo like Hololive will care about the niche that is retards like you instead of trying to reach mass appeal to normalfags where there is more cash to be made

>>17353034
>destroy their core japanese market of salarymen who will dump cash on their favorites their entire lives and buy up even the really shitty merch not just the good stuff
>to appeal to western dramafags who won't even watch a free stream collab of the people they're busy hyping up nevermind actually donating or paying up for merch
>all in order to alienate the few westerners who actually want the JP way of things
Yeah that seems like a really good way to do business.
The company who pulled out of China over less bullshit is sure to do as you say.

>>17351790
Just wait! Two weeks!

>>17346447
One of the reasons why I was drawn to vtubing was because it seemed that for the first time in modern history women stepped up and proved to be more than a pair of tits and a cunt. By adherence to an actual objective standards of behavior the art of vtubing made it possible for them to transcend mere flesh and whoredom. Since it relied on having an actual personality, conversational skills, intuition and general feel the girl exudes it made it possible for unpopular, disregarded girls to be recognized both as women and as people. They were the utter refutation of feminism and sluterry. They didn't need either of those to be someone, something. They had actual merit, actual content within themselves. The whore, the slut, the e-thot and the e-celeb were defeated by vtubers. Us men had little to do with that in the end - vtuber girls showed other women that they were superior.

But then Mori happened. Because of Mori I completely lost hope that women can be anything but whores or common e-thots. She completely destroyed the magic of Myth and the way she did it was ugly and grotesque. Mori IS the thot, the slut and the lowest common denominator type of women. This whole situation showcased her massively inflated ego (with no substance), total disregard for any standard or culture/way of doing things, total contempt for anyone but her alone, and a dash of thottery capped it all off. She has nothing to offer, she has no personality - her cunt triumphed over all of that and is her guiding principle, ergo Connor.

It's all very gross.

>>17353162
>destroy their core japanese market
1) nothing they could do would destroy that fanbase. they survived mel manager, they survived hitomi chris, they survived killing aloe, they survived china, they survived za hando, they will survive pink woman
2) you will never be japanese, you are not representative of that core audience
3) lol, lmao

>>17353162
>Writes essays explaining his autismo at the smallest provocation

Have you considered, getting a gf

>>17353307
tl;dr

>>17346447
Have you tried not being retarded so people will not reply with things they know will get you mad?

>>17353386
nta but have you considered checking numbers to support your claim?

>>17353386
Not that Anon, but have you considered fucking off back to kiwi farms? And take your offtopic reaction pics with you as well. That trash has no place here.

>>17353358
lol if you think the nips will tolerate abandonment of 2D and actual twitch whoring like you people want.
Some of the holos still have rabid antis just for dropping the useless platform that is NND.
Gundou still has endless swathes of haters despite people now knowing that almost all of her claims are fake.
>>17353386
No, but I hope you consider blowing your brains out on camera. That'd be the most entertaining thing one of you twitch homos has done in ages.

>>17353307
Wait, isn't the criticism of Mori that she is not doing enough to present herself as a fake girlfriend to her viewers to bait donations from lonely men? Isn't that like the opposite of whoring yourself out?

>>17353600
>schizos will flip if they do [thing that i don't like]
>when schizos will flip over anything anyways
if you think this is an argument for anything but getting rid of schizos i don't know what to tell you other than to take your meds

Glad they are getting rid of toxic trash. Incels should just lie down and rot and stay out of sight.

>>17353649
None of the HoloENs and the vast majority of HoloJPs Do Not Cater To A Girlfriend Experience.

I don't know how many times this needs to be stated until one of you anituber tertiaries grasp this very simple fact.
I realize you think the shit that connor spews out of his welsh shithole pretending he knows anything about a subject is true but he, and his crew of mongrels, misinform their underage listeners on the regular on any given subject.
That's why people who actually visit Japan, much less live there, don't like those assholes.

>>17352376
Most of us spent 4 hours listening to Mori this week, because she was in every collab. Personally, I'm having a hard time getting into streams if this is what I have to look forward to, everything special punctuated with Mori taking a big shit on it.

>>17347727
>he is actually a pretty cool guy.
He doesnt even know what loli is
The dude is a giga fucking normie with pee pee poo poo humor

>>17353891
It's not like cover has never done anything like it before
>china is a fickle, possessive fanbase infamous for flipping allegiances and threaten talents at the drop of a hat over imagined slights
>cover cuts their losses and removes the chinese influence from the company despite the loss of revenue
>incels are a fickle, possessive fanbase infamous for flipping allegiances and threatening talents at the drop of a hay over imagined slights
hmm

>>17346706
>gets called cuck and incel multiples times by their oishii.
>Still spergs in any thread they can to defend her
Is this what abusive relationships looks like IRL too anons?

>>17354144
>cuts off their entire jp base and all their sponsorship money to cater to twitch kiddies who can't even collab without burning other people's money
looooooool

>>17346447
>wahhh, people on 4chan call me name.
Grows some balls faggot, why do you care about their opinions?

>>17346447
HoloEN didn't ruin this hobby, clipfags did when they brought you whiny faggots into this hobby.

>>17354253
that's the thing
even in japan the obsessive schizos are a minority
and catering to their extremely fickle, unstable moods is a recipe for disaster for a business

>>17354132
Then don't watch those collabs if you have such a problem with her and it is not like she did anything bad during those collabs.

>>17346447
Drinking lean with Mori in the post apocalypse city of New Vegas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KspIOQjTa4&ab_channel=ReidyAnimation

>>17346447
it will only truly be over when you off yourself, incel. you have no place in this world.

>>17354253
>believes employed socially functioning salarymen donate less than hikkineets
Yeah, let's chase some incels for that NEETbux instead of everyone else that can actually donate a decent amount and isn't a schizo

>>17347727
I don't think Charlie after that shitshow is gonna ever do that collab even if management would somehow give in.

>>17354733
kys

>>17354414
Their obsessive schizos are but the vast majority of jps are 2D-only's who hate when vtubers act "real" as twitch whores like to call it, which is why even their 3DPDs put on an act.
If they act like you want on their main account instead of on their fanbox they're going to get suspended.
That ignorant TT faggot tried baiting Kson into taking a stance against it and she just said that JP fans overwhelmingly prefer 2D and will tell her so when she does a 3D stream.
But you keep on trusting your headcanon and ignore what all the actual japanese people are telling you.

>>17354733
>socially functioning salarymen
fucking lol you clearly know nothing at all about elevens

>>17353962
Everyone of them who consciously does stuff like avoiding interaction of males or does yuri baiting is doing it play into their viewers sexual fantasies for profit. And if we make a list of how sexual the average vtubers stream is, Mori is near bottom of that list with plenty of HoloJPs ahead of her.
I don't care if Connor personally bullied you in high school. I'm telling you that your definition of whoring yourself out is near opposite of what it actually means, and even you should be able to realize that, if you take like 3 seconds to think about it. That has nothing to do with him.

>>17346447
>>Mori is celebrated for owning the "chuds" and lowering Hololive viewer standards on this board
Can't lower something that was already rock bottom.

>>17348848
come on now, watching TV all day's never been a hobby and never will be

>>17355046
>Everyone of them who consciously does stuff like avoiding interaction of males or does yuri baiting is doing it play into their viewers sexual fantasies for profit.
Or you know the fact that there are no good male vtubers and many of the holos outright said they didn't want to do male collabs when they started there like Aqua and Peko.

>>17354144
Idiotic comparison. China is a totalitarian country and thus its populace is exceedingly fanatical towards anything that could damage their sense of national pride. On top of that, it's the wealthiest country in the world. They are similar to America, except in America it's the niggers and faggots that are the holy cow, but in China it's China itself. And Xi.

None of that has anything to do with the simple fact that vtubing is made for fans who simply want a certain standard. It's built into the industry itself. Or to be precise an idol vtuber is the prestige class while a chuuba that collabs with males is F grade. The first is the standard, the second the plebeian version. The first adheres to standards and has enough dedication, skill and hard work to be a part of the Prestige Class. The second does not and is thus redelegated to the F Class. It's that simple. There's no equality here. This is a very hierarchical industry and some of us want the best. Why drive a Ford if you can have a Lamborghini?

I hope she collabs with more irl men just so this drama never stops

>>17348161
Still some of the wisest words I have heard to date.

>>17351530
>women who trade sex for money via streaming
You mean chuubas.

>>17352969
Yeah but she's not going to fuck you either.

>>17355264
There could be theoretical reasons not to interact with males that are not just appeasing your audience, but you are pretending to be retarded if you are claiming that they don't know that places like this place would be calling them whores if they did, and that it is a big part in that decision.

>>17355610
No one gfes mori who isn't a cuck so that wouldn't be much of an issue.
If you want to cause seethe she has to invite more twitch grifters who wants to "change japan" and "change hololive" like connor.
The types who go on about politics and tries to tell japanese people what they ought to feel about vtubing, lolis and feminism.

>>17346447
Didn’t read anything past incel, incel.

Mori is my oshi and I don't give a FUCK if she hates me AND has sex with Connor every night. Maybe you should touch grass, OP. brb gotta give Mori some condom money.

>>17355886
Dumb fuck.
Several holos were doing collabs with males (just not shit-tier anglos with cultural colonialism on their minds like you turds are pushing) up until people realized it wasn't popular, some of them never wanted to deal with men in the first place and never did.

URRRLEEHLEEHLEEHLEEH

>>17347727
You need to unironically go outside if critical hits your standards of 'cool guy' He's a milquetoast retard with a gatcha addiction.

>>17356041
>Several holos were doing collabs with males
>some of them never wanted to deal with men in the first place and never did.
Almost like they're all individuals and each streamer will decide what is more important to them and the sort of audience they want to appeal to. Matsuri and Fubuki have streamed with the homos and male nijis several times, while Aqua and Pekora clearly never will. The people who imagined that Myth would somehow be different are deluding themselves.

>>17356041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGZz_zdb7ho
And I'm still waiting for the explanation of how Mori is the one and only whore in Hololive.

>>17355399
>goes in a schizo rant full of exceptionalist propaganda over an imagined slight
you're just proving his point you know

>>17356100
>critical
>milquetoast
I don't deny this, but his adherence to a middle-of-the-road philosophy is precisely why he isn't nearly as cancer as literally every other male e-celeb out there.

>>17356544
>Almost like they're all individuals
Thanks for saying it.
I'm not even a deadbeat and my oshi has no signs of collabing with males anytime soon but I want that if this happens it's because that's what she wants to do, not because she has to step on eggshells to not upset the schizo retards.

>>17356698
I wouldn't know i'm not the original poster and just responded to the dumbass argument going on about GFEs when the dumb TTroon clearly doesn't know what a GFE actually is and just takes conjob's word for it.

>>17356775
he's roughly as milquetoast as vinny vinesauce
there's a reason why they're popular, they're internet funnimen that don't engage with shit drama unlike connor

>>17356840
The true problem was never conor, the problem was her oshi retweeting the cuckbeat post

>>17356544
And all of them were on their neck when things went sour.
Just like when Mori keeps inviting antis.

I don't care if my oshi collabs with men I just don't want her to collab with anitubers and generic twitch anime-lite streamers

>>17356927
No the issue was always the anituber faggot because he's poison to people who don't even watch Mori and confirms all their deeply held suspicions about EN and american vtubers.

>>17346447
/jp/ weren't joking when they told you that /vt/ is just where redditors go when they want to say a bad word without getting downvoted.

>>17356775
He literally skinny Boogie2988

Everythings Americans touch gets ruined. Just stick with JP

>>17346447
I knew it was ogre when Callie made thousands during that so less Terraria stream

>>17346447
>Mori is celebrated for owning the "chuds" and lowering Hololive viewer standards on this board
unironically a giga red flag
It's only a matter of months before EN vtubing gets pozzed.

>>17353307

mori loves her friends https://youtu.be/vQLe1E-HtC8

>>17357224
>>17357348

>>17357480
Anon it always has been. Delusional people flocked to HololiveEN because they figured being operated by a Japanese company would keep them in line but obviously the nips in power stopped giving a shit about keeping their side branch on a leash.

>>17347727
He hasn't been funny since like 2014.

what's wrong with you people

>>17346447
>Mori is celebrated for owning the "chuds" and lowering Hololive viewer standards on this board
Oh no! What will Mori do now that this schizo board won’t hold her to high standards.
This is the only place that even cares anymore. Twitter troons and plebbit have already forgot about it. Face it you’re the minority faggot and that’s a good thing

>>17357811
what no (real) love in their lives does to a mf

>>17357348
That's starting to become my viewpoint.
I mean these people have everything due to the japanese and still they can't stop themselves from championing people who openly mock and can barely hide their loathing for japanese people and culture.

>>17346447
The only unicorns I know are self made millionaires like Kanata and Norio.
Meanwhile every person I see who calls others incels is either a mental wreckage with pronouns on bios or a literal living soijak caricature.

>>17356883
So why did Noel say that she does not interact with males, because she fears that her audience would feel jealous? I know that it is possible to play into the GFE memes more, but it is very clearly a part of what the girls do.

>>17357348
too late.

>>17358036
>what the girls do
The ones who do the GFE. Which is a select few. It's not an experience you can at all have from most holos.

That I even have to explain this to you makes it very obvious you do not belong here and should fuck off back to whichever site you came from.
People who don't even watch the media they make grandiose claims about are way too retarded to engage.

>>17354135
Sure anon, unlike your sophisticated tastes that compel you to post about anime girls on a mongolian basket weaving forum

>>17358347
nayrt but defending and stannin for twitch e-celebs is more cringe than anything else

>>17346447
Just stop watching this trash then?

Nijis and indies are better than HoloEN for months.

>>17357641
>Delusional people flocked to HololiveEN because they figured being operated by a Japanese company would keep them in line
this

>>17358460
>Nijis and indies
You mean people who do the exact same shit as non-vtubers and have the commensurate viewers.
No thanks.

>>17346447
Retard just tell them to dialate and kill themselves, odds are it will work so you can rid us all of them by harassing them whenever you can, that's what I do buddy.

>>17357948
doesn't matter
it only took one to set fire to kyoani
a lone protagonist will always defeat a horde of npcs

>>17358762
Will never happen keep dreaming about it Schizo

>>17349480
Of course though "people" like you ruin everything, you moralize and cry about sexual freedom because you're utterly depraved, the only thing that goes through your mind is sex because you're a subhuman animal, you are altogether too common, if the world wasn't in such a terrible place the actual humans would rid everyone of your presence.

>>17358347
t. cuckbeat

>>17358762
>He sees himself or anyone in this board as protagonist

Reminder that Mori's cuckbeat squad are known to be kiwifarms addicts.

>>17359293
What do you mean?

>>17358524
The problem with Mori is that she gives absolutely no fucks about rest of Hololive and wants to collab with biggest fucking retards on youtube who openly shit on vtubers. Not that she collabs off corp.

>>17358037
>Meanwhile every person I see who calls others incels is either a mental wreckage with pronouns on bios or a literal living soijak caricature
Those creatures are examples of what is considered normal now. Civilization itself has become diseased to the point that it actively seeks to destroy all the living organisms within it. The good news is that such a civilization cannot sustain itself and therefore must collapse. The bad news is, contrary to the claims of the optimistic nationalists, this civilization is global and when it breaks down everyone on Earth will be deeply affected by it. It will be like the Bronze Age Collapse but on a global scale. However the world will keep on turning and the rain will eventually wash the ashes of modernity and it's deluded notions of "progress" away and we will start again.

>>17359583
That quote isn't about collabs but about switching to indies and nijishit.

>>17346447
you're the one that ruined this hobby by being a fucking bitch. you should be shoved into a fucking locker

>>17351530
hololive was never different from egirls or ethots, they were always the same thing but with a different flavour.
at first EOPs got into them because they were cute anime girls doing the shit 3d girls were doing for years, just EOP were so against those 3d girls they never actually watched anyone other then maybe the most popular 3d girls which most of are standoffish because of their success.
>>17351790
classic "just you wait"/slipperslop argument.
rarely does it turn out to anything, remember last time when everyone freaked out about the vshojo and holoen collabs? not much happened for months after.
>>17352572
i mean there is a difference between listening and changing things based on what you hear out.
>>17353962
vei and connor both talked about their opinions of corps and while vei made shit up false shit to support her point, her and connors points are valid criticisms of corp.
just remember what happened with machinama, most people who signed with them were luckly just partners but if machinama owned any personas those people wouldve been stuck on their sinking ship or they wouldve had to start over again when it sank.
would you even care about any of the hololivers if they werent signed onto hololive in the first place anon? even if theyre talented, hololive gives them the much needed boost to allow for success.
corporate does own your persona unless youre like suisei; and does carry those they sign on, talented or not.
>>17357641
>>17358508
honestly the only thing keeping holoJP in line at times is japanese culture and standards, the social pressure is way stronger then managements ability to actually manage.
if the jp girls were more use to western culture theyd act like coco more often.

>>17346447
Stop being a cringe holobrony and join us on the other side

>>17358037
> literal living soijak caricature.

>>17359691
>her and connors points are valid criticisms of corp.
Unironically neck yourself.
You listen to outright liars who know fuckall about the corp and then go on here to stan for them like a fucking retard.

>>17359644
Yes. Because they are much better.

>>17358762
Torching kyoani wasn't cool tho.

>>17359691
You've already outed yourself in the vshojo thread as not even watching vtubers and just being a TT fan here to defend your lying welshie so fuck off.

>>17359742
is that a girl from Kawaii productions i see anons mentioning?

>>17359851
t. MGTOW incel

>>17356100
Go back to Hasan or better yet kill yourself fucking faggot, subhuman niggerfaggot

>>17346447
Dude it's just anime avatars

>>17357348
So I should or shouldnt touch grass?

>>17346447
It's okay, try to drink some lean to cope with it. Twitch thots and their simps just hate someone purer than them

It has been a fucking week

>>17346447
Yes. Jesus Christ is the west cringe.
I'd rather be Chinese than American.

>>17359691
Christ study english grammar before you post next time puerto rico fag.
And no, holos are not like your twitch whores you'd know if you had actually watched any and connor like everything else he claims is just making shit up and hope it sticks.
If you ever visit Japan and actually try to take his bullshit advice you will be immediately disillusioned by his fakeness. Not joking, even simple things like eating lunch in Akiba would show you that he's just making shit up for viewers.

>>17355046
Leave it to a faggot like you to equate false romanticism with sexual fantasy, of course you have no concept of something like love because you're a space out retard base animal.

>>17358823
>>17359207
Tick. Tock.

>>17357348
everything about japanese culture is toxic and i'm glad they're becoming extinct due to low birth rates

>>17359925
That'd be the viewers of trash taste who think it's normal to ironically hate a country on the other side of the world.

>>17358762
Holy based.

>>17360067
t. MGTOW incel, here's your (You)

>>17359772
anon did you even read what i said, valid doesnt mean they have to be listened to.
>>17359851
ive never actually posted to the vshojo thread so youre thinking of someone else and i couldnt care less about TT.
i made an argument for their points because their points have truth to them, im not trying to implying that hololive bad because these points also apply to niji and the other corps too hence why i didnt refer to hololive everytime i couldve.
connors point apply to all corporate brands in general, since his point is how marketing works

>>17353307
Stop mansplaining women empowerment you weeb incel

>>17360168
>extinct
>only over 125 million native people
Oh no how will they ever cope

>>17353307
> t. MGTOW incel

>>17360317
>because their points have truth to them
Nope and you'd know they didn't if you'd ever watch holos or tried staying employed as a company deadweight.
But you don't so the point is moot.

WTH is this thread

>>17359742
Actually based.

>>17360084
anon his advice is dumb yes but his point about how corps carry those that sign onto them isnt dumb thats the point of signing.
>>17360463
ive watch holo niji and many indies, im well aware of the differences between being signed and not signed to work with a company.
him saying for you to lie to get in is stupid but the benefits he says are actual factors other wise why would anyone sign up to a company.

also instead of claiming how theyre wrong, actually explain how theyre wrong, if i have to explain how theyre right in my opinion then you should do the same

>>17346447
HoloEN is a fucking cancer disease. We can't enjoy our HoloJP chuubas without them fucking things up repeatedly. Nuke the west already.

>>17360258
Yeah the goal of life is sex, how fucking progressive it is

>>17359860
It's Enna from Nijisanji EN

>>17360469
its the classic "i will say something isnt true without actually arguing points about how its not true" thread

>>17346447
Why said HoloEN when it's just Mori?

>>17361129
This

>>17347849
My Hobby is Gura, not vtuber or even Hololive

>>17352643
what about Polka and Ame?

>>17360837
t. MGTOW incel

>>17352969
Your oshi will never fuck you either. "But mori called you cucks!" She was malding at tweet and trying to come out on top as too cool to care. You're a facetious cock goblin if you say otherwise.

>>17360758
Why would I engage someone who clearly doesn't know a thing about vtubing and has shown it through many threads on here?
You're also busy obscuring all the other claims he made about Hololive baselessly about unicorns while not realizing the GFE thing is not at all common among holos, mori totally being able to go the kson route despite not being anywhere near as supported and tons of other dumb shit that outs him as an ignorant who only learned about vtubers recently. He didn't even get that JP viewers prefer 2D something any random faggot on here could have told him (excluding you misinformed fake news TT watchers obviously), not even just the ones who hung on NND back in the day with it's millions of less popular 3D twitch-style camwhores.
Connor is a massive fraud and anyone with even the least bit of cognizance about Japan knows it. Even some people who just watch anime can tell and anyone who've been a tourist there knows it for sure.

>>17361129
Considering how many "we" a person can count in this thread, this thread was made by a tourist to spam incel reply at every response

>>17361345
>if you disagree with me, you're /pol/
go back

>>17360077
But you are a chink. Now get back to eating xinnie the pooh’s shit, faggot.

>>17360837
Hope you like watching streams on NND infrastructure then.

>>17361399
I’m curious what makes Connor a fraud?

>>17361710
nothing, he's just a jealous incel

>>17360096
Lets hear the non-sexual reason why all interaction with males is looked down on, but openly yuri baiting is encouraged.

>>17361710
I've hinted at it a bit already but the tldr is that he never knows what he's talking about yet talks authoritatively about things like he does and his retarded viewers gobble it up.
Mind you his group is actually paid to inform people by Bookwalker and instead they actively misinform people because they're dumbasses who can't be arsed to do any kind of research at all even just wiking something or engage with their topics on more than a base level.
Have you ever heard a complete fucktard pretending to be otaku before say "there's no good food in Akiba" before? You know one of the top touristy places that have shittons of great restaurants on every side-street?
Literally the only way you'd come to that conclusion is if you'd never gone there or you'd never tried any place that wasn't a generic maid cafe. Yet these clowns would regale you about the shitty food of the place.

>>17346447
I genuinely can't understand what you incels are mad about.
Some holos went on a podcast again? Who cares?

>>17361271
I don't care if a vtuber acknowledges or talks about them, as long as they don't collab. That would be petty. I only care about the content they produce, and a collab with vshojo is the sort of content I don't want to see or encourage.

>>17357348
Japan is just an American territory, cuck.

>>17361710
His best friends is a convicted pedophile.

>>17346447
Cover ruined this hobby. Anything went, we had Ebola chan, cat cunny, and variety. Then Holofags broke the algorithm, now all that YouTube spits out is Holo, Holo, Vshojo.

>>17361710
TT Connor? Basically a trend riding anti who then rides on the thing he derided to double dip
Anime otakus? ahah worthless weebs, but have you seen the newest season of AoT?
Vtubers? fucking losers who are them, and losers who watch them, but i need to wrap this up soon because i'm collabing with Ironmouse and Zen in 20
Japanese culture? Fucking outdating culture, all they do is kiss up to westerners and hold on to outdated traditions. Now i'm gonna head down to the downtown Tokyo bars and see if i can get a star struck JK to come home with me

>>17357979
Who's here loathing grorious Nipponese culture?

>>17346447
They're insulting you because you're retarded, and literally nothing has been ruined. Neck yourself.

>>17346447
>Hololive viewer standards
jfc you guys are massive autists

>>17362586
Don't all anime fans have pedo friends?

>>17362095
anon thats a general problem with all influencers, connor is not special.
but your more upset he said it then actually thinking about what he said, actually argue how the point of "one could lie and get into hololive and hololive would carry them to success because of the brand."
i dont care if it was connor who said it, actually argue how this point is wrong instead of arguing about how we shouldnt listen to the point because you dont like the guy.

>>17357348
Wouldn't that include Japan as well, given we forcibly opened up their gate then shoved two massive payloads inside of them?

>>17362716
It's not even an insult, if anything it shows they're tourists who are making a fool of themselves and should neck themselves.

>>17346447
Nice try falseflag-chama, but calling someone an incel is about as effective as calling them retarded or a nigger
Oh well, looks like everyone took the bait so here's an extra congratulatory (You)

>>17347727
>>17354135
>>17356100
https://youtu.be/7db611XuLoc
Please, so someone else gets blown the fuck out

>I actually will do it
>And i won't do it lightly
PLEASE FISH

>>17360168
based

>>17361783
Connor is a jealous incel? He's more of a narcisstic attention faggot

>>17362661
Connor. The guy only went to Japan because he failed as a VA in bongland and it really shows when he has to engage with anything unique about the place.

>>17362853
Yes Japan would still be a bunch of shitty fishermen worshipping their emperor without us
Anime, video games, and vtubers only exist because of the USA

>>17362943
>gaslight about gaslighting

Go back to your subreddit. Mori is a whore. Connor is a faggot. Mori fans are canonical cuckks. Redditors ruin 4chan. The end.

>>17346447
Anything that brings this shithole of a board down is fine by me.

>>17362841
Honestly try to restructure your posts into coherent english first. You're giving me an aneurysm trying to parse your brainmist.

>>17347727
LMAO, and what, is rick and morty your favorite show as well?

>>17363162
What did he say that was discriminatory do the Japanese?

>>17363367
Aside from mocking pretty much everything they care about you mean?

>>17353358
matsuri only survived za hando on life support, her viewing base was destroyed and she has to start all over again. She was crying on twitcast today.

Yea, that's the future you want.

>>17347727
NijiEN girls gonna collab with cr1tical apparently, date TBA

I hate Connor and his faggot pals as much as the next guy but this is just incel behavior

Most of Mori's fans are literal Twitter troons, of course they are going to call everyone an incel and shit. At least KFP recognize that they are simps, and Chumbuds that they are pedos

>>17360837
You will never be Japanese

>>17363543
Incels would be the male feminists who defend connor for being a creep and a leech

>>17360067
tho twitch vtubers do better then most holo memebers and have better rigging tracking and models

>>17363439
like what?

>>17363248
Check who you're replying to faggot, or if you're actually butthurt about being called an incel, retard or a nigger then kys
>Mori is a whore. Connor is a faggot. Mori fans are canonical cuckks. Redditors ruin 4chan
This part is true though

>>17363264
>brings down 4chinpo
>all the refugee-chans go and actively shit up the chat, reddit and the rest of your little safespaces
I love how retarded you tourists are. Containment exists for a reason

>>17363557
>2 black stickmen couldn't indoctrinate Green
>Do nothing when Brown shows up as well as "too much" or "the last straw'

Cucks will be cucked

>>17362095
Basically this. I think Chess exemplifies this aspect of him. Like he's really good compared to people who don't take it seriously and he's built an ego about it, but anyone who takes it seriously can embarrass him given a bit of time. I think his biggest issue is that he's incapable of taking anything seriously so he gets like this with nearly everything, be it chess, anime or vtubing. Like he's got a better understanding than the average shmuck but anyone who's taken it seriously knows how bad he's really lacking. Unfortunately, his viewer base are all low-tier shmucks so he looks really good to them.

>>17363766
see >>17362657 for a small taste

>>17360067
Vtubers are twitch thots though
And I don't just mean this in a "they're all the same" way, I mean literally like half of hololive members have twitch thot careers on the side.

>>17363265
argue against his point without using his credibility as your only argument.
how is "hololive can carry anyone to success with its brand name" incorrect?
>>17363557
problem with this image is that most of the people here who complain with this image arent the first generation of a hobby, which means most of us are the from step 5 onwards.
the image is a good example of how things can start out but most people will never be part of steps 1-4

>>17363897
Can you just explain how he's racist without talking like a schizo, it's not that hard.

>>17363264
As an /a/ fag, unironically this. /vt/ faggots make the bronies on this site look sane and the only people who are more schizophrenic than you fucks are /pol/tards

>>17363557
>black
original japanese audience
>green
EOP JP vtuber audience
>brown
EN vtuber audience
>girl
vshojo
>dudebro
IRL western twitch/youtuber streamers/youtubers

>>17363907
dont out vtubers on the same level as someone like pokimane they actually respect their sudience

>>17364017
No one cares what latecomers to /a/ think about anything.

I don’t hate Connor like some of but I do find him boring and don’t get how he’s so popular. I only watch him if he’s with Mouse.

>>17363543
Nobody but women and troons use the word incel you troon

>>17363528
Apparently it's a potential collab involving some of Niji (boys and girls), vshojo, and cr1tikal.
Honestly, it will probably be a shitshow of a collab if it has too many people but I hope it happens anyway just to make Mori seethe lol

>>17364085
Not all of them respect their audience

>>17364171
Well you wouldn't hate him on mouse because that's literally the best behaviour he ever showcases.
Anywhere else and he's an utter cunt.

So this is what incels do on their spare time?

>>17363265
He's asking you to explain how what Connor said was wrong; association with Hololive, regardless of talent or skill, means automatic success. Argue the point, not the person.

>>17364340
No they watch ironic weeb podcasts hosted by their own when they're not whining on reddit about how horrible it is to be [central] asian in america.

>>17364171
He's a shithead because he's an e-celeb European living in Japan.

>>17364432
Sana, HoloID, HoloCN and HoloStars

>>17363160
i'm talking about the anon, not connor

>>17364085
NTA but of course theyre not pokimane levels of shitty, pokimanes whole existence is to be the popular girl who gets offended at any slight at her by others and makes it a bigger thing then it is.
being better then her is not a high bar.

>>17364085
No they don't lmao
You know they all have boyfriends irl

>>17364077
> You
MGTOW incel

>>17364432
>He's asking you to explain how what Connor said was wrong

>association with Hololive, regardless of talent or skill, means automatic success.
Counterpoint: Hitomi Chris, Holostars, all the minor names you don't care about as a non-fan. Don't even bother going on about subscribers either. No one in Hololive makes money off subscriber numbers only active views, archive views, donations and merchandising.

>>17364602
> MGTOW incel

>>17364171
I hate him less than the Joey guy who pretends he's real Japanese because his dad was from Japan or whatever.

>>17364746
Wrong on both counts.

>>17364432
It's objectively true, especially for HoloEN where the girls get hundreds of thousands of subs before even doing anything

>>17364655
>let me just namedrop a few people, that will make you figure out what I mean
No. What is your point?

I checked out Connor on Wikipedia and he’s hardly voice acted? The projects also look minor? I expected someone with VA having a better portfolio?

>>17347938
hololive went after the EN talent first and you expected EN to act like JP?

lmao this place is full of angry incels attacking trash taste for no reason

>>17362657
>t.

>>17364602
That's not the issue. It's that he acts like the worst the west, and bongs in particular, has to offer by being both an ignorant blowhard and pretending to be an authority all the while openly opposing actual japanese cultural mores.
People like him are hated all across Europe, that's why they tend to leave. Liberal bongs actually get extremely, extremely salty that we tend to favor the more laddish boomers like Clarksson who might shittalk us a bit but it's always with levity and not some political attempt to make us change our ways.

>>17364708
The fucking irony of of shiting on pokimane for getting offended and taking things out of proportions on a thread where people are hating on Connor like he fucked their moms because he said something that can be interpreted as a slight insult for their hobby of watching streamers with anime avatars.

>>17364602
This, dudes barely talented and has the personality of a wall

>>17365116
He likes to think of himself as a VA but his actual job is just to get paid to market japanese culture to braindead zoomers and he can't even do that right.

>>17364842
didnt hitomi chris die before holo got famous?

>>17364655
Sana has 280k subs last I checked which is plenty to survive on. I know a YouTuber who quit his full time job as a lawyer because he was making more money from his 120k YouTube subs than he was as a lawyer so I'd say anyone with that sort of user base putting out regular content is doing better than your average shmuck.

>>17364655
Sana was still higher then all of nijiEN before recently, so if anything that still proves that holo can carry someone to success over the rest of the industry.
Holoid is still second place in the ID market only beat out by a true ID focused corp.
CN was doing well before it was killed.
stars are the only one that disproves his point from being 100% true but it doesnt completely disprove his point.

>>17361396
Wow you guys are not even shitposting you are actually this butthurt.

>>17365360
>I know a YouTuber who quit his full time job as a lawyer because he was making more money from his 120k YouTube subs
ok was he like making a shitload of videos because otherwise I don't see how that's possible with only 120k subs

>>17364842
Hitomi Chris doesn't count, you'd be better off bringing up Mano Aloe and she had something like 100k subs when she graduated.

>>17365360
>>17365441
Subs don't matter beyond sponsorship which no one new and EN is going to get.
Cover cares about archive views (long-term support), donations, merch sales and stream views.

>>17365242
I really hope you don't believe that vtubers are significant parts of "Japanese Culture", because that's more racist than anything Connor's ever said. That's like saying British culture is Pewdiepie and disliking him makes you racist against Sweden.

>>17363557
>black
Original Japanese Vtubers.
>green
EN vtubers joining a fun niche.
>brown
Many more vtubers get started because it looks profitable, and they do their best to fit in because they want to be successful.
>girl
Normal streamers try on a vtuber avatar for the attention like it's a fashion trend but aren't serious about it.
>dudebro
Normal streamers try to collab with vtubers and profit from the community with zero interest in the avatars, and will chide and berate anyone taking it seriously.

>>17365541
I even considered bringing up Mel since she's big because of her fantia but who the fuck cares arguing sincerely with these dishonest jackoffs.

>>17365581
*Swedish culture

>>17365257
to be clear im not one of the anons thats upset with connor but i didnt really put that together either lol

>>17365581
Connor has spoken the way he does about vtubing about a ton of other subjects. It's his schtick to wade into a subject he knows nothing about, claim it's shit because it's too japanese, stir up drama, try to collab with someone who is into it and then just milk it until the next thing comes along.

>>17365443
He did 4 videos/streams per week, not too far off your average vTuber schedule, maybe even lighter.

>>17365742
Has he ever insulted actual Japanese culture or just like, cartoons and e-celebs?

>>17365855
Pretty much anything japanese is dubbed creepy by him.
That's when he and Joey is not arguing that japanese views on woman has to change to become more western-feminist.

I never thought anything could be worse than Kiara and the KFPs, but Mori blew that out of the water.
Deadbeats on suicide watch.

>>17366055
It's funny I never knew how bad the deadbeats really were. Lots of twitter-tier shit coming out from them about incels and mgtow as if anyone here cares about robot autism.

>>17365443
If you have a consistent 300 viewers on twitch, that is enough to make a living doing that full time.

>>17365928
t. MGTOW incel

>>17346706
>sub

>>17366187
Maybe if you're very third world.
Only guy I know who actually seems to have my living standard and lives off it has like 900 or so subscriptions consistently and gets a steady stream of donations.

>>17346447
you are only a loser because you accepted it, you were told you failed and you accepted it without even struggling
You never believed your own spew you just enjoyed the drama

>>17365928
I mean Japan currently has a low rate of gender equality but it's already been progressing at a steady rate on its own so the Japanese feminists really don't need some British guy championing them.

>>17365928
Oh gross. Joey is a huge faggot. It always blows my mind that these people think they doing what is best for the world around them, while being completely shortsighted.

>>17366187
Maybe but that would probably be like below median income or something.
I'd say if you have around 1k viewers average and you put in a lot of hours streaming you can make some bank. Varies based on how much your community donates and how many sponsorships you get.

>>17365839
Should keep in mind that he keeps all his earnings besides what YouTube takes, as opposed to corporate vTubers who only get whatever Hololive doesn't keep.

>>17366465
I've been watching hololive ID for years and I've never heard of that person, did you make her up?

>>17366522
>Japanese feminists
LOL. Ya let's see how far they get.

>>17366531
t. MGTOW incel, here's your (You)

>>17366566
he could also decide how much content he produces and can find other ways to get more money from his viewers like a patreon for example.

>>17366465
what do you get for lofi instead?

You will not be missed.

>>17366522
this, incels just want the illusion of a submissive and traditional asian wife

Took you long enough to notice. Just stick to holoJP. Actual good streamers, great streams constantly, lots of collabs because the talent is actually friends with one another and little to no drama.

>>17366785
> MGTOW incel

>>17346447
>Hate Vshojo
>Hate TT
>Love Holo
>Like Mori
Simple as

>>17366785
Whats the point of watching people you can’t understand though?

>>17367173
But i do? I'll agree with you though, not much point if you can't.

>>17367173
So exactly the same as all the other vtubers you wath?

>>17366664
There are far more Japanese women in the workforce than 20 or 30 years ago, sexual harassment is a much more widely acknowledged and understood issue, and Japan's rape laws were recently amended to be more fair to women. Tokyo elected its first female governor in 2016 and re-elected her in 2020. This isn't a subjective thing it's just basic facts.

>Watch EN chuubas with EN audiences
>Thinks it won't get infected by the West's degenerate cultre
What were you niggers thinking?

>>17366415
>>17366550
I checked someone with an average of about 500 viewers using the twitch leaks, and he made about 110k not including donations on that 26 month period. You can make a shitton of money from playing sponsored games and stuff.

>>17366773
Traditional asian women wouldn't touch an incel with a 10ft pole, let alone an outsider. Everyone knows about these losers back home and how deluded that they are that they think that anything would be different in another culture.

>>17367637
Being friends with a man is degenerate? You know a lot of vtubers collab with men all the time, right?

>>17367382
That is fantastic to hear anon. I am sure they are well on their way to making the world a better place. I'm sure Japan will thrive and be greater than it ever was because women are no longer oppressed.

>>17367382
lol first of all Koike didn't get to be tokyo governor because she's a woman but because she has the backing of Nippon Kaigi the ultranationalist organization.
Secondly she's too much of a party hopper to ever move beyond that position.

>>17367728
True. They generally want a man with good genes, charm, and a career.

>>17367683
That's fair. The guy I was talking about only touched the sponsorship games once and he openly said because it was too much money.

>>17367784
No, I'm not talking about males. More so about trannies and normies that will flood VTubing that does not necessarily care about the hobby.

> Connor and TT brainwash Mori and ollie saying they'll be the saviours of Hololive, responsible for destroying le toxic idol culture
> Mori uses her influence to change HoloEN and save her japanese friends from the toxic idol culture
Easy W

>>17367683
Some streamers in those twitchleaks who average around 1k but put in a shitload of hours have apparently made some serious bank.
They're not millionaires (unless they've got good budgeting skills) but they're solidly upper middle class income wise

>>17366773
>>17367728
>you don't want a balding anglo to impose anglo style feminazism on japan?
>clearly you're an incel lusting for japanese womyn!
Man you offsiters really need to stop before you slam into a concrete wall made solely of cliches.

>>17368040
off yourself yellowfever incel

>>17367896
Who cares? The fact that she was elected at all is proof of women having a greater amount of power and recognition than they did in the past.
I don't see how you can look at Japanese culture and somehow deny that feminism and women's rights are advancing lol. It's not Afganistan.

>>17368133
We all know your kind is more prone to suicide

>>17364077
>original japanese audience
are you saying original Japanese audience is leaving? What a delusional retard you are.

Also bumbling gaijin idiots who dont speak a lick of japanese were never ever "original audience" (you) will never be Japanese

>>17368133
It's funny how you americans think there's anything special about getting laid in japan.
All it takes is a throwaway line account or if you're too much of a neet for one-night stands then walking up Tobita Shinchi or one of the offbeat red-light districts like parts of Susukino.

>>17368200
You just don't know fuck all about Japan or their brand of anti-western feminism.
Koike isn't even woke to that she would be the first to put japanese woman back to pre-1945 standards if it suited her polling.

>>17368443
Seethe all you want, I'll be here watch JP chuuba streams live AND understanding what they're saying.

>>17368556
I don't get why you're so in denial about an obvious fact.
Feminism is succeeding in Japan. Women's rights are advancing. This is a good thing, so why does it bother you so much?

>>17368602
>pretending you can understand them without Livetl

we actually have TTfags and femoids here.

>>17368701
They're 95% of /vt/

>>17368669
I'm just not a delusional retard who mistakes pedestal politics for actual action.
My own country has never had a woman PM ever yet feminazism is rife.
Nips are pushing forward women yet have near zero tolerance for western-style feminism.

>>17368701
Yes, they seem to think they're welcome thanks to western vtubers.

>>17368669
>This is a good thing
Explain how it is a good thing. I really want to see if you can justify it.

>>17368682
>I can't do it so no one else can

>>17368821
yeah, a japanese woman was calling out western SJW feminists sperging about sexualization of a anime character

>>17368669
t. has never in his life interacted with a japanese woman.
Literally all of them drop out of the workforce to be stay at home moms the second they marry. It's expected of them.

>>17369059
>>17368821
as i thought, you're just misogynist incels. go back to /r9k/

>>17369026
if you could wouldnt seethe here about EN vtubers. You should be happy "muh EOPS" focus on EN streamers and dont disturb JP ones.

>>17369121
>lol you are wrong cause I said so
Many such cases

>>17369121
Have you ever been to r9k?
It's full of people like you.

>>17369047
>japanese woman was calling out
feminism in shambles truly.

>>17369134
I can watch both.

>>17368821
>>17369059
62% of Japanese people believe that women's rights haven't yet gone far enough in Japan. Only 26% of Japanese women believe the current state of women's rights is good enough.

>>17353709
asian schizos are more of a threat than western ones

>>17369243
Forgot image, whoops

>>17369212
apparently not . YWNBJ, youre a secondary irrelevant to JP base, which you are not part of.

>>17369047
Yeah, stuff like that never happens by the Japanese themselves
https://internationalnewsagency.org/the-onsen-musume-project-gave-in-to-controversy-and-made-some-changes/

>>17368821
>>17369059
>>17369243
In addition, 68% of Japanese adults and 75% of Japanese women think there should be more female leaders in politics and business.

>>17369381
Whatever you have to make up about me to make yourself feel better.

>>17369303
>>17369243
>20,000 people across 26 countries
>online survey
>THIS IS WHAT THEY BELIEVE
Holy shit are you serious? Lol I didn't think someone could be this retarded.

>>17369441
facts must sting. You never fit in, parasite.

>>17369059
Sorry, reality disagrees with your feelings.
Look at the image in the post you replied to

>>17369481
Have you ever been to Japan? I genuinely don't understand how someone can believe that women's rights have not advanced over the last few decades unless you've just never gone to the country. You genuinely think things are the same for Japanese women as they were in the 1940s?

>>17369498
Yeah that's cute.
Meanwhile I know the second anyone I follow gets married that's the end unless they're a huge TV celebrity and even then it's uncertain if they'll keep it up.
That's reality to anyone whose followed Japanese stuff for real and not just heard things second-hand and thinks online polls are reality.

>>17369788
You are going to completely ignore that you got called out for posting data that is beyond skewed? Of course you will. Anything is better than facing your own lies and bullshit.

>>17369243
So what?
It's like a survey: "Do you believe your salary is good enough?"

>>17369481
https://www.japan.go.jp/diversity/women/index.html
Look, here's a source from the Japanese government using Japanese government statistics proving that female participation in the workforce has increased steadily since 1975.
I'm sure you'll find a way to be in complete denial about this, too.

>>17370007
Well good Luck dying alone, it's genuinely funny how white incels think they better chances with japanese women

>>17369901
>>17370007
>>17370020
>>17370049

>>17363770
Pretty much this. It's one thing to want this place to go poof, but if you want it because you think anything would improve as a result you've got a real big, unpleasant motherfucking surprise in store for you if it does happen.

>>17369901
>>17370007
>>17370020
>>17370049
They're doing better at feminism than America

It's weird how I'm posting all these sources and you're just crying about your incel feelings lmao

>>17370120
Are you some upset hapa or nog perhaps?
Getting laid in japan is not difficult if you're from a civilized people.

>>17370049

>>17370218
Now post how many of them remain working after they marry.

>>17370287
>anon confused about why women dont marry until much later

now that we have TTfags and sjw feminists, can this board get any worse?

>>17370272
I just posted labour statistics from The Japanese Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications. Keep up with the thread, incel.
https://www.japan.go.jp/diversity/women/index.html

Honestly it's just funny to me how americans mistake "there's more corporate wage slave women" with "feminism is making great strides!".
Even when Japan was at it's most grotesque in the eighties money bubble they still had tons of women working, and being fucked by their bosses to boot.

>>17370405
Ya that is very good of you. You backpedaled after getting caught. Your credibility and moral compass has already been destroyed. The point was to prove that you are a malicious person with no goals other than being a cunt. Easy W.

>>17370287
There aren't many sources about that sort of thing, but I found one.
https://aiai-group.co.jp/joe_sadamatsu/9763-2/
>According to The Japan Institute for Labour Policy Training, the number of dual income households in 2018 was 12,190,000, the number of fulltime homemaker households was 6,000,000. It was the first time that the number of dual income households was twice the number of fulltime homemaker households. This rate may become similar to that in Western countries in the future.
It's still a problem, of course, but it's getting better. That's what progress is about.

>>17370691
>it's a problem that japanese women aren't wage slaving their entire life but raising a family and enjoying life instead
Christ.

>>17370581
>>17370442
What? i posted sources and when you got mad about those I posted different sources that conformed more with what you asked for. I'm doing exactly what you wanted, and you're still upset.
I don't get it, why are you so in denial that Japan is making great strides towards equality? You're acting just like those western sjws, claiming that Japan is a savage backwater that doesn't understand the concept of women's rights.

>>17356840
>because that's what she wants to do
I hope you're prepared for the inevitable shitshow when starsen shows up. The mood surrounding them on everywhere but /here/ is they HAVE to be "supported" when the debut, especially by all the en girls. If the girls say no to them, twitter calls them incel enablers, if they say yes because of that they're doing it because of pressure and getting gaslighted. If the guys say no to girl collabs because they actually have self respect and want to be seen as their own thing, it'll be the same meltdown if the girls said no turned up to 11. There are no good guys in the fight anymore.

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>>17370745
Women should be allowed to do what makes them happy. And more and more Japanese women have decided that having careers makes them happy! That's a good thing, poor incel boy.