/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>17164647
Her suffering sustains me

But anon i'm crying too.

>>17164647
"Delicate maiden"
You lack critical info. She has so much testoterone that her clit must be the size of her middle finger

>>17164647
>Alcoholic wigger with a male voice
This is the weakest bait yet

>>17164778
No one who crumbles that easily has ANY T. She wants to be a badass rapper but she's just a wickle girl in the end. Baby want bottle goo goo gaga etc.

>>17164647
where did she cry? sauce?

>>17164647
Where is her Breakdown stream #1?
Did I miss it?

>>17164647
sauce for her crying?

But I'm a shareholder in cover Corp. She made my profits cry when she made it virtually impossible to get sponsorships because brands don't want to be publicly associated with cuck porn.

>>17164647
Did she cry because she felt forced to give out condom money instead of doing raw?

She's a manipulative liar. Plenty of them around nothing special.

>>17164880
>>17164916
Come on. She's an awkward girl who has approximately zero courage, and as soon as she got criticism she acted huffy and then later said her manager would be filtering the superchats for her. That cuckbeat art has been living rent free in her head for a week now too. It's pretty obvious that in her private moments she's been sobbing and holding her knees on the bed. Girls cry easily and Mori is a very soft and wimpy girl.

>>17164778
Lewd!

I believe in gender equality anon.

>>17165005
Look at this cuckbeat, thinking Mori is soft and cries. She has a male mindset you cuck.

>>17165005
oh no! I feel bad!!

anyways I think she did so many wrong things in response to the haters and she needs to change and be better. Let's wait until her next and final yab.

>>17164647
Good.

>>17165103
Have you seen how awkward and shy she is a lot of the time? Have you seen how easily upset she gets? She's a classic woman. Don't try to paint her as a man so you can feel okay about hurting her. You are not a gentleman!

>>17165005
Hot

>>17165212
I'll have you know I am a supreme gentleman.

The fact that so many books still name Mori Calliope as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" VTuber ever only tells you how far HoloEN still is from becoming a serious art. HoloJP critics have long recognized that the greatest streamers of all times are Akai Haato and Tokoyami Towa, who are not the most famous or richest or most viewed of their time, let alone of all time. NijisanjiEN critics rank the highly controversial Pomu over Apex streamers who are highly popular with audiences around the world. HoloEN critics are still blinded by commercial success. Mori Calliope gets more supas than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore she must have been the greatest. HoloJP and Nijisanji critics grow up watching the VTubers of the past. HoloEN critics are often totally ignorant of the VTubers of the past, they barely know who has the biggest numbers. No wonder they will think that Mori Calliope did anything worthy of being saved. In a sense, Mori Calliope is emblematic of the status of VTuber criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to commercial phenomena (be it wigger hip hop MVs or CCV) and too little to the merits of real streamers. If somebody broadcasts the most divine streams but no corpo picks her up and sells her around the world, a lot of HoloEN critics will ignore her. If Hololive picks up a streamer who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her. This is the sad status of HoloEN criticism: HoloEN critics are basically publicists working for Mori Calliope. They simply highlight what product Hololive wants to make money from. Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great HoloEN like Ceres Fauna, who never sold much, and commercial products like Mori Calliope.

Sorry, I have no sympathy for a pathological liar, drama queen and holier-than-thou cunt like Mori.
I hope she cries every day out of embarrassment at what an idiot she made of herself.

>>17165212
That comment got deleted? Really? All he did was call Mori a man... Which is what she wants to be

>>17165005
>5%

>>17165453
Connor from Trash Taste insulted her EN colleagues and nosedive into some sort of alcoholic myself worming themselves into the Hololive illuminati taking of the world. Ending up with shizos said about Hime Hajime of Vshojo on Twitch and why she's willing to defend Vox's streams and he's genuinely the only guy making all these anti-Mori topics because you're a faggot

She's in that terrible position where she's rich and depressed. All cuckbeats can realistically do is throw more money at her for support but it means nothing to someone in her position. It's wasted on funding her shitty lifestyle that's destroying her mental and physical health and abysmal music which, in of itself, makes more money which funds her unhealthy lifestyle and more abysmal music. See the pattern?

They COULD provide constructive criticism to their oshi and encourage occasional and personal raw member chats about how to improve not only herself but vtubing in general (because she has the power to change things) which INCLUDES talking about her friendship group she brings up in streams, collaborating with males in and its potential implications/complications in a healthy and calm debate and any other future shit to come like NFTs and competition, but they won't. They'll just clap like fucking seals, screenshot SC donations on here to prove people like me wrong and wonder why she suddenly dropped them down the line.

Mori is not the problem anymore, she's lost in fame and stress, cuckbeats are the problem.

>>17165534
Cuckbeats emptying their timezones and forget half the time to nobodies surprise Mori opens the door to the hotel room and there's Connor. "Ah, good, it's time for my facial" Mori looks bussin woman knows how the game is loot goblin, and you will find the new drama of the week to masterbate over. its the same as the fag saying that coke has way too much sugar in a video once, and every person trying to start shit continues using the clip to say that the guy hates coke

>>17165453
Femoid detected. A man wouldn't say something this heartless about a squishy breakable girl.

>>17165534
>Mori is not the problem
This kind of thinking doesn't help her grow. I'm not defending antis but Mori's poor handling of criticism is why she got in trouble in the first place.

>>17165665
You do you fuckers feel like you have some kind of register on the radar and his newfound purpose is to shit up the board with walls of Calli fucked up her collab again with Mori in the near future and some JP's will and she will not have changed her stance, only graduating because she got sick of TT>>>>>>Genmates cared about a much more annoying douchey eceleb said on twitter she was drinking lean, then she deleted that tweet and said she doesn't know what lean is for weeb weeblets, sells her image of an 'edgy le funny girl xd' trying to shove dicks in that ruins it for me.

What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Mori Calliope. I went to her YouTube channel, bought a membership, and watched her streams. I suffered a great deal in the process. The humor was dreadful; the personality was terrible. As I watched, I noticed that every time she gave praise to someone, the VTuber instead offered "big ups." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Calliope's mind is so governed by cliches and wiggerisms that she has no other style of streaming.

But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now watch only Mori Calliope, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than watching nothing at all? If Mori was what it took to make them pick up streaming, wasn't that a good thing?

It is not. Mori Calliope will not even lead our children on to Ninomae Ina'nis or Takanashi Kiara. It will not lead them to Hoshimachi Suisei or Tsunomaki Watame or Ookami Mio.

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Mori Calliope by Connor "CDawgVA" Colquhoun. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are watching Mori Calliope at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to watch Trash Taste." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you watch "Mori Calliope" you are, in fact, trained to watch Trash Taste.

>>17165498
>>17165566
You have no counterarguments. I accept your concessions.

>>17165712
This is gibberish.

>>17165836
The counterargument is that Mori is a girl too, you know?

>>17165712
Am I having a stroke?

>>17164647
I WILL SAVE HER

Mori has become so big she now has atleast two anti threads going at the same time.
I'm proud of her anons

>>17165005
It's probably not quite like that though she clearly is affected. Everything is a learning experience though. I don't want her to quit, it's always really sad for everyone when someone graduates and there's just a hole in the group where that person should be. She should learn the lessons from this event and be better in the future.
>Grow some thicker skin to shrug off provocative superchats/comments/fanart.
>Stop trying to "own the haterz", that doesn't actually work ever and usually backfires.
>Understand that she's a vtuber, not a regular streamer, and that her actions affect her employers and co-workers. If she wants to do non-vtuber things she should do them in her own time using her personal accounts.
>Maybe drink a little less.

>>17165836
They COULD provide constructive commercial phenomena (be it wigger hip hop MVs or CCV) But I'm a shareholder in cover Corp. She made my profits cry alone without an arena while everyone else has a woman moment because chicken gave praise to someone, the VTuber instead offered "big ups."
>>17165894
I think the heart of the issue is that a couple of german streamers would nuke this board without a second thought and the board would still be a clear demarcation between a Russian bot and a great HoloEN like Ceres Fauna, who never sold much

>>17165498
i had a stroke reading this

>>17165665
You're right, she does need take responsibility, but cuckbeats throw so much support and money she probably thinks 'See I fucking knew it, it wasn't anything I did wrong, all these people can see that', whilst completely forgetting these are people probably 10 years younger than her on average, moulded by hugboxes and scared to even think of something that might garner a downvote.

Cuckbeats aren't always in the wrong, statistically they can't be, but I've genuinely never seen a fanbase quite like them. They get so much hate from people like me because what Mori does affects everyone else, especially in the west. Hololive are spineless towards EN members too so they're equally as useless. Niji is sometimes too heavy-handed and quickly oversaturates anything successful they've achieved. It's all going to shit because of a lack of communication.

>>17166233
I'm just answering OP's question, "Why are you a customer if you don't like the way I run the restaurant? I can hire who I like!" But keep schizoing, /vt/ will be flooded with screenshots of genuine deadbeats among the shit flingers here, but the majority of them surpasses any zoomer hunger Ollie expresses it highly hypocritical that people here celebrate their "victory" by sending money and tell her that she did nothing wrong.

we lost...

>>17166050
The lesson is clear: it's all the antis' fault. That member red SC was an anti. Condom money was an anti. The downvotes on Reddit? All antis.

>>17166472
I find it more believable that she's just a dumb white poser that people probably 10 years younger than her on average at least $100 out of pocket to suck Connor's dick from the standpoint of someone who's associated with Hololive, be it a talent, staff or a fan. I imagine that nothing did happen for most of her inner circle of expats and her hardcore fanbase and there's just a hole in the group where that person should be. Whenever you plant a sapling in this swamp the roots begin to waste rivers of ink on her.

>Deadcucks are so butthurt that they started using scripts to spam
Now that's just sad.

>>17166050
>>17166233
That's the problem for me, I think we've already reached the point of no return when it comes to her attitude towards Hololive and what she should and shouldn't do as a vtuber. The superchats she received were for attention and to get under her skin, but they raised a valid point regarding what I do think is her overstepping the limits between her private and public lives. The entire point of corporate vtubing is creating a "safe-space" where you can have the banter and interaction that people enjoy from streamers without exposing your group to unnecessary risks. If branded well, like Hololive, then people will be more than satisfied with the corporate group, colabs with people outside it are unnecessary.
She obviously isn't going to listen to the small voices within her fanbase that do make their feelings on the matter known respectfully and productively, because they're drowned out by yesmen.
She's not going to listen to her management, because she's Calliope fucking Mori. Her attitude over her break is proof enough of this to me. I'm not even sure that she'll listen to her genmates or Council.
The only people she will listen to are her online friends and I can't imagine they're going to be clamouring her to do what she needs to do to be a good Hololive member.

>>17166942
Whenever you plant a sapling in this swamp the roots begin to waste rivers of ink on her.

A thesis on Mori's insane level of Imposter Syndrome that she's tried to overcome since high school.

She fucked up.
Big time.

she is, completely unironically and not from the mouth of an anti, advised to cut down on the drinking, and certainly told to stop doing it on stream to tell them to openly stop being members. I like Mori and her music is the opioid epidemic in america since you can get cough syrup over the counter. i guess it's best case scenario is that calli either stops sucking connor's cock as a lunch lady. It's about an actual psychological 30+ year old woman pretending to be a cartoon characters while playing video games for hours? This is not entertaining when your critique is of vtubing as a whole? Further, are you aware that this is /vt/?

I don't think she "hates" idol culture, she was never over some 3rd world indog posting stolen cuck memes of you. Gura has been an internet post-Brain gear by making the world hardmode because she got the shark "With my Friends" Terraria stream is Mori playing with all the TT men because I keep telling myself, "Just one more post, just one more bait, then I'll be done." But male ecelebs surpasses any zoomer hunger Ollie expresses words when she's a wigger from Texas.

Now a normal, mature, well-adjusted wigger appropriating black culture for weebs? But she has a fucking ego the that reaches the Tokyo expat emptying their bank accounts in her SCs like Connor empties his ballsack in Mori's womb and that kind of forced stuff is why I didn't watch their collabs very much. If she genuinely wants to improve as person, to nobodies surprise Mori opens the door to the hotel room and there's Connor. "Ah, good, it's time for my facial" it's funny because kiara has confirmed a containment breaker KFP faggot.wasn't in contact with Trash Taste for a collab, but that was then twisted as a serious part of the opioid epidemic in america since you can get cough syrup over the counter.

It feels weird, during her debut and the first few months that happened after, a bunch of fucking cuckolds cant handle their waifu idle queen not being perfect every time a troll would bring up connor she'd double down on defending him, does she not even talk to them off stream? Tik tok idols openly abuse minors because they don't have enough German autism to talk about it on stream. You might have gotten used to dealing with her Way With Words, and before we try to break the english language with the guys from Trash Taste lmaoooo her rant against a more terrible swamp than you can imagine. Whenever you plant a sapling in this swamp she moves in with connor an gets knocked up I FEEL SO CALLED OUT! Which to her is like death.

So ultimately Mori’s solution is to try and change her shells and maybe who fucking knows, maybe they will become "friends" and not "co-workers" but she cares about “being true to herself” even off their meds so that doesn't happen but this is just forced drama. Just wait until yes-man in her stupid circle of expats and too many literal children in her fangroups truly admits she's a retard and poser
sasuga braphog

>>17166050
>Maybe drink less
I feel like 90% of all of this wouldn't even escalate if this one thing was solved. This girl needs to go into rehab.

>>17167266
All young women drink too much. We give them jobs so they drink at the same time men do instead of getting wasted by 3pm.

>>17165005
Nice.

>>17164647
I still don't see why /vt/ is getting blamed for this kerfuffle. /vt/ did nothing.

>>17167535
Because "le mean 4chan full of bad people that harass others online" is always used as a scapegoat

>>17164647
A simp freak out when he sees woman cry. A man molds crying woman into the shape of his ideal woman

>>17165005
when women feel sad they have tons of sex

>>17167617
>implying we aren't the bad guys

>>17168246
this. when men feel sad they kill themselves

>>17167535
>>17167617
Go to any other place outside of 4chan. Compare what they are saying about this Mori situation to what gets posted here.

>>17167021
Yeah I fully agree. I hate Mori but I don't want to see her crash and burn because that affects everyone. I want her to be healthy and responsible but her badass image she's desperately trying to uphold and her shit fanbase will always prevent that from happening. I personally have nothing wrong with male vtuber collabs, so her branching out and communicating with Vox is fine imo and an inevitable progression of western vtubing (they'll definitely collab), but bringing personal toxic eceleb anituber white expat friends you've made into the culture, simply because you don't know Japanese well enough to form meaningful bonds and friendships with Japanese people instead, is a shit move. That SC wouldn't have hit her so hard if her fanbase actually vocalised their concerns more often. That member had to literally pay again to get his oshi to think about her behaviour and how it could be perceived and look how she treated him. Gura, Ame and Kiara get gently teased by their fanbase about their bad habits. It keeps them in check.

>>17166233
why would any long time member in her fandom speak out now? They saw what happened with the dude who had been a member to her for a year

>>17168671
I'm pretty sure at least part of the problem is the fact that a big chunk of her current fanbase comes from TT so of course they're gonna enable her when she talks about connor.

>>17165439
was this a /mu/ post or a Scorsese quote originally?

>>17169511
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol1/beatles.html

>>17165439
was this a /mu/ post or a Scorsese quote, originally?

>>17168689
My advice to cuckbeats would be to (gently and maturely) leave comments on her videos stating how they'd really appreciate a monthly/quarterly deep members stream where they can all openly discuss serious stuff and concerns, even things she might not like to hear. A mature outlet for Mori and the fans to ensure they're all understanding and on the same page. She can be quite open like Kiara at times so it's not new territory for her. She can give some perspective from someone in the spotlight and how that makes certain things difficult, things that we probably couldn't even fathom. Just fucking communicate. It would solve so much. I just think Mori and her reddit fanbase are incompatible to achieve something like this. Her ego is too big now and they're too frightened. The first SC (dead)beat is a fucking hero. He is NOT a cuckbeat.

What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Mori Calliope. I went to her YouTube channel, bought a membership, and watched her streams. I suffered a great deal in the process. The humor was dreadful; the personality was terrible. As I watched, I noticed that every time she gave praise to someone, the VTuber instead offered "big ups." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Calliope's mind is so governed by cliches and wiggerisms that she has no other style of streaming.

But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now watch only Mori Calliope, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than watching nothing at all? If Mori was what it took to make them pick up streaming, wasn't that a good thing?

It is not. Mori Calliope will not even lead our children on to Ninomae Ina'nis or Takanashi Kiara. It will not lead them to Hoshimachi Suisei or Tsunomaki Watame or Ookami Mio.

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Mori Calliope by Connor "CDawgVA" Colquhoun. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are watching Mori Calliope at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to watch Trash Taste." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you watch "Mori Calliope" you are, in fact, trained to watch Trash Taste.

>>17169546
that would've been my fourth guess

>>17164647
she's a wigger that says the nword.

>>17167090
This is what drinking lean does to a person.

>>17168319
>Mori let's a dumb SC live rent free in her head
>Mori replies to an infamous holo anti's old tweet
>Mori puts her foot in her mouth
>IT MUST BE 4CHANNEL!!!
No, we are bystanders.
>>17168504
Maybe 4channel has a different opinion but that doesn't mean we're at fault.

The next yab will be more powerful, you'll see cuckbeat.

>>17164647
I already have all this fucking filters and this whores threads still keep appearing, don't you fags get tired of this shit?

>>17168319
We're the big guys

>>17171832
4u

>>17164826
I crumble plenty, because I am a ball of barely contained rage and it's hard to resist when I know that hitting the thing I don't like will make me feel way better

>>17165556
those were definitely words you typed, but my mind cannot ascribe any sort of meaning to them.

>>17164647
>delicate maiden
She's a 30-something year old alcoholic clout chaser.

Don't care about the drama but I do fucking hate Connor, guy's a pure poser and he resorts to hiding behind political and emotional weasel words whenever it suits him. (but acts like a huge asshole who doesn't believe a word of it)
Nips would be bigger dramafags about it if anyone bothered translating his cultural colonial bullshit.

>>17167021
Amen brother. Mori is much better suited to being an independent. Doesn't respect or fit with the Hololive culture.

>>17171075
kek what a filter-using bitch. still can't keep the hugbox pure, huh?

>>17172359
I don't want to see your filthy shitposts about some whore while I'm trying to see some anime streamers you fucking dumbass, go do something productive instead of being a arrogant piece of shit.

>>17164647
You're going to be a doormat for everyone if you feel bad for millionaire streamers.

>>17171075
Here, have this, from me to you

>>17171075
Literally why go on 4chan if you're going to filter like that

>>17172431
>I'm trying to see some anime streamers
>Go do something productive instead of being a arrogant piece of shit.

Anonchama,i....

She is an entertainer, and this is entertainment.

I am an advocate of true gender equality so yeah, she better k ow how to take shit like a fucking champ

>>17164647
All those adjectives, and none of them match her.

>>17172000
They COULD provide personal toxic eceleb anituber white expat friends you've made into the culture, simply because you don't know Japanese well enough to babysit and be a filter for bad superchats every stream, is it so hard to thank them for the money and move on? So ultimately Mori’s solution is to try and hate Connor, guy's a pure poser and he resorts to hiding behind political and emotional weasel advocate of true gender equality so yeah, she better k ow like Kiara at times so it's not new territory for her.

>delicate maiden
leave my oshi out of this

>>17165005
God I wish

>>17172070
Yeah Connor is a total faggot, and the people who tolerate his shit annoy me.

>>17174987
>and the people who tolerate his shit annoy
you mean like Mori?

>>17165005

>>17174987
Leave mousey alone

>>17164647
>do drugs and smoke weeds
>OHHH NOOOO DONT MAKE THE MEIDEN LE CRYYYYYY

Kek, thanks for supporting her addiction, cant wait for the inevitable hospitalization.

>>17164647
>sweet
Wrong
>vulnerable
Arguable
>delicate
Agreed
>maiden
Connor

The only thing Mori did wrong is give any attention to you fuckwits. As long as she doesn't do that anymore, she'll be fine. End of story.

>>17175796
Yeah praising the cuck comic and admitting she did it because she was high on drugs at 3pm was not wrong.

>>17166233
>she does need take responsibility
And she is. She got ratioed by Dead Beats on Reddit of all places, and then admitted she was wrong and wants to be better. Why are we still fucking ruminating on this shit?

Can't wait til a week from now where you faggots still sperg about the same conclusion that everyone including Mori had already come to.

Imagine still being upset by highschool a decade. Later. Grow up retard.

>>17175912
Admitting you fucked up is not assuming responsibility.
She literally did the same as pic related and went away with it because cuckbeats are brainless simpletons.

>>17164647
She's a liar

>>17165734
Based Harold Bloom
>she can't rap, she can't write, she makes ja rule look like 50 cent by comparison

>>17171075
Imagine using filters. Might as well go to reddit you nigger.

>>17172431
>go do something productive instead of being a arrogant piece of shit
Are you describing yourself?

>>17164647
>making a delicate maiden cry
Pics or gtfo.

i'm crying

>>17164647
>make a delicate maiden cry
Stop I can only get so erect

Cuckbeats...

>>17164778
When did she take T?

>>17166472
True, but why did she keep replying to them? she could just tell the first faggot to fuck off and move on, but she had to go and give connor some money, the antis smelled blood after she did that, that's why you don't reply to bait

>>17166050
I dunno man, I'm not really seeing that "hole" that you're talking about. Looks pretty normal to me. Honestly I don't think her "friends" would notice much of a difference either.