/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>17153300
I know the trick, I explain it to you and you're going to reply with "oh so it's a nothingburger then?". Fuck off back to your discord, cuckbeat.

>>17153300
She is a dumb ,drug addicted whore and admitted to it on Twitter.

>>17153300
Fuck off if you've seen the threads than you know the reason drink bleach skeley fag

>>17153300
I'm here just for the (you)s

>>17153300
Another cuckbeat cope thread. Go send Mori another red superchat before she drinks herself into another meltdown at 3pm in the afternoon again

>>17153300
whore

i honestly don't know the whole story, but i shitpost nonetheless

>>17153300
The only think you're trying to wrap is your dick inside your dad's mouth, get rid of this shit bait thread

>>17153300
cuckbeat is confused! quick, substitute lean with drankies!

>>17153300
You're not fooling anyone, cuckbeat. This is embarrassingly bad bait.

>>17153300
speak for yourself Ive been hating mori since debut

>>17153300
this sums it up nicely

Cuckbeat spotted

>>17153300
Because you're a damn tourist and don't even watch Mori

>>17153300
i just want to give her a shoulder to lean on

>>17153300
The root is c*onnor, the whole thing started because one faggot sent her an akasupa asking her to cut ties with the manlet faggot, why? he's been hated here since a long time, here are the reasons

Connor talking shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9sNVWHUZU
https://files.catbox.moe/91mnvk.MP4

Making mouse cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCYG4Sr972U

Connor grooming other chubas
Milky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkJsvlHAcqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USju5MoBgoM
Ollie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAeXpe4RcmQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1fclih0O_I
Iron mouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9mNUTkFZog&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USdRJujnXtU

>Thanks for all the money guys, it really makes me happy that all you deadcucks support my actions
Basically her last tweet from half an hour ago

>>17153300

I don't even know the whole story either and I won't fact check but I'll write shit down just for fun and bite the bait even if this is one:

>publicly humiliated a fan who sent SC saying "hey maybe don't interact too much with Connor since he hates hololive"
>goes to donate that money to Connor officially as Calliope Mori
>chat and the general fanbase makes fun of her about it because her reaction seems over-the-top, and also the fact that she gave him money created yet another akasupa from someone else that says "here's some condom money for Connor", went into meltdown regarding it
>realizes she's making things worse so blames lean, which turns out to not be the slang she thinks it should be for alcoholic drink, but is slang for codeine-mixed drug
>suspension and-or-break but having the audacity to stream her POV of the Terraria collab other than gura and getting 9K dollars(?) out of it. not apologizing for her previous actions.

I don't know when or how the cuckbeat comic got tied into this whole thing and if it's related, but she basically replied 'ironically and unprofessionally' to a stupid edit of deadbeat having a sad boner imagining calli getting fucked by that Connor TT guy or whatever.

t. Autistic Schizo who just likes to shitpost, don't take my post seriously

Connor is a stereotypical UK shitbag just based what i've seen from him on Abroad in Japan.

>>17153842
>>realizes she's making things worse so blames lean
this was in response to the cuck comic

>>17153300
Im not op and the opposite of a cuckbeat what did 52% actually do?

>>17153300
send the drug addict nigger of Nippon back to the US

>>17153424
>Another cuckbeat cope thread
I think it's an anti fishing for copebeats.

>>17153737
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9sNVWHUZU
was this before or after his comentaries about hololive vtubers not needing talent?

>>17153300
Anon, just stop being a deadbeat, that's what I did way before this "cuck LMAO lean" bs and I can enjoy other chuubas without being extremely devoted to Calli of all people, she's not worth it, I guess there's a noticeable appeal but it's not worth it, she was never worth it.

>>17153842
>goes to donate that money to Connor officially as Calliope Mori
No, that came after. Don't remember what triggered it.

>>17153842
Thank you for the reply, much appreciated

>>17154156
this

>>17154295
Holy based

>>17154295
Oh, really? I thought that was a response after she said she was rerouting the money to connor.

>>17154295
kek

>>17154345
It was. The donation to Connor happened after the member's stream but before this SC was sent. A promise broken, since she said she wouldnt use her official account to donate to anyone and yet did it anyways. Another one of her issues, she's a habitual liar and constantly does that sort of thing.

At first it was about Superchats living rent free in Cali's head, but its been a week of this thing so its more like /vt/ and Mori live in each others head.

>>17154560
>It was. The donation to Connor happened after the member's stream but before this SC was sent
So she decided she's sending the money to connor out of the blue?

>A promise broken, since she said she wouldnt use her official account to donate to anyone and yet did it anyways
holy
which video is this? a timestamp if it ain't too much.

>>17154684
I'm going to have to back up my claim by going archive diving later, I only picked that one up in one of the Mori splits so it could be false info.
It is true though that Mori has a very and habit of just casually lying to get past any potential awkwardness. See her reaction to Kiara's King prank and about Heart Challenger. Mori is not a good friend, and it's unfortunately probably a coping mechanism from when she was bullied in school.

>>17154779
At this point its almost refreshing to see someone bring up something that actually happened and wasn't taken out of context.

>>17154779
>Heart Challenger
when did this happen? I'm trying to archive everything

>>17154779
Unfortunate, but enough studies done have shown that pathological or habitual liars stem from their pasts of being bullied and are unable to develop sincere relationships because of it

>>17153300
I see the cuckbeat's campaign to gaslight people into forgiving Mori is in full swing. I bet they're clapping themselves on the back right now.
>We sent her lots of our money, that means she won!
Is there a more pathetic group of people?

>>17153300
>there has to be more right?
Yes.

She admitted on Twitter that she's drinking purple drank, aka lean, which is codeine cough syrup mixed with sprite etc. It's a popular drug in the Black community. She then quickly backpedaled and claimed she didn't know what the word actually means, which is ridiculous because she's from the very place it's most popular. Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_(drug)

Then, she liked NTR fanart where Connor of Trash Taste is fucking her in front of a deadbeat (her fans).
When a member of hers sent her a polite akasupa advising her to stay away from people who shit on Hololive (Connor) she flipped the fuck out and said she'll be selectively reading SC's in the future, and ignore some. And she again did some bullshit on reddit in the same vein. Oh, and she's a genuine alcoholic. This is all on top of her not giving a damn about being a vtuber, putting in zero effort and generally being a complete disaster. All her streams are full of scuff because she never test things out etc. etc. Basically out of the entire first gen she's the one who has consistently failed to improve and doesn't actually even want to be a vtuber. All this shit you see us talking about is 50% trolls from SEA and 50% us genuine fans of HoloEN and vtubing who are desperately trying to make Cover do something, anything to solve Mori before the problem sucks in other chuubas around her and compromises the entire gen and vtubing as a whole.

>>17155109
It is sad to see cuckbeats going for the enabler route.

>>17153300
I don't get it much either OP, what did people expect to happen when they to drive a wedge between Calli and her social circle that she has in Japan? Calli isn't the type to meekly go 'Hai' and be constrained within box defined by others.

Could she have handled the response a helluva lot better? Absolutely.

Should people back the fuck off of expecting her to drop Connor and others because they don't meet their purity test? Absolutely.

Honestly wonder if some people making these demands want to see more drama and some extensive collateral damage to the Hololive brand.

>>17153300
After everything else, it all boils down to how she reacted, really. Her biting the trolls' baits and what anons saw as her trying to fight back by bringing up the anti-Connor superchats on stream, liking Luxiem tweets, and finally replying to that cuck image an anti posted on twitter, plus her apparent substance abuse problem on top of all that, led 4chan to paint her as an immature and spiteful woman, and since this site just has a lot of incels and trolls by nature, that led to the sentiment and narrative of her being suspended.

>>17154120
Uhhh, way before, like half a year or more before the other video

>>17155155
Well anon, you've relentlessly shitposted about her, what did you expect? You just push more people to her side with all this out of content drama and pretending to care about things like lean.

>>17155186
>liking Luxiem tweets

hold on a moment, isn't Calli basically like Rank Top 2 among "Hololive-members who interact with Nijisanji" based on the fact that she follows a lot of the NijiEN? (Rank 1 being Kiara)

I've checked my twitter a lot for "Followers you Follow" on Nijisanji members whenever they debut since Obsydia. Calli is basically almost always there and probably only beaten by Kiara, no?

I think her liking Luxiem Tweets isn't in any way an out-of-ordinary occurence and how she tries to 'make a statement'... but I might be wrong, I don't check her likes that often. are you sure she barely ever liked Luxiem tweets before?

>>17153300
I hate Trash Taste

>>17153300
It's more about how unprofessional she is towards drama. She choses to fight it instead of ignoring it.
She's a dumb cunt

>>17153300
>she admitted to the use of drugs, literally
>called her fans cucks, implied
>accepted and sent connor "condom money", recorded
>made such a fool of herself even r*dditors had to call her out
Connor was wrong, hololive girls do have talent, the talent to entertain me with such a clear display of stupidity.

>>17153842
>>17154266
>publicly humiliated a fan who sent SC saying "hey maybe don't interact too much with Connor since he hates hololive"

>>17153842
Mori liked and commented under the art of a cuckbeat getting cucked by Connor on tweeter. Then went to redddit because people were talking shit about her, she tried making excuses but got downvoted. Then went back to tweeter and blamed the lean then backtracked and said it actually wasn't lean, that she don't know what that is.

>>17155153
>When a member of hers sent her a polite akasupa advising her to stay away from people who shit on Hololive (Connor)
>polite akasupa
>>17155480

>>17153737
based watamate

>>17155322
Mori followed all of the Luxiem members the second they debuted. She just likes supporting other content creators and she knows how difficult it can be to debut as the first of your kind (HoloEN was the first major vtuber branch in the west; Luxiem is the first major male vtuber branch in the west)

>>17154684
>So she decided she's sending the money to connor out of the blue?
She did it to dissuade the schizos from sending SC to her talking bad about her friends, which sounds good on paper but they exploited it as seen on the condom akasupa

>>17155526
Yes, that's polite and reasonable.

>>17155610
so do we agree that her liking Luxiem tweets isn't a "spiteful and immature response" to this whole recent situation and it's just a normal twitter activity?

if the schizos treat it as fuel (justified reason) for them to get mad at her, I think that's on them. not that the other things listed here >>17155186 are okay; she should apologize for those, but liking Luxiem tweets just doesn't fit in here for me.

>>17155610
She likes supporting anyone and anything that isn't Hololive, yes, we know. There is nothing noble about her actions.

>>17155751
>but liking Luxiem tweets just doesn't fit in here for me.
anti here, luxiem theory isn't holding ground

>>17153737
>grooming
or just you know
networking

>>17155610
No she just a whore that likes to suck eceleb dick.

>>17155723
Hey anon, I know I'm a completely perfect stranger but you know that one good friend of yours? You should drop them, they come off like a giant faggot and by extension we're going to start thinking you're a giant faggot too. I enjoy your posts, all the best!

>>17155109
How much of that will go to connor tho?

>>17155768
>She likes supporting anyone and anything that isn't Hololive
KEK

>>17155186
>immature and spiteful woman
And lazy, disinterested gateway for outsiders and grifters. She's a liability and doesn't even want to be a vtuber. She's offended that people like vtubers "unironically" and that everything she does as Mori eclipses her real self. Her constant attempts to pollute Hololive's idol culture are likewise reprehensible.

>>17155526
what's unpolite about that?

>>17155853
good thing he didn't send a superchat that said that.

>>17155480
>>17155853

"don't associate with this other person who is bad/evil, that means you agree with this bad/evil thing" is just such an SJW-community-thing to say imo and I agree it's rather rude. but despite that, I still think Calli overreacted and kept fanning the flames with her subsequent actions.

also
>good friend
dyrb?

>>17155821
Whenever I talk with 2 views behind the scenes from now and then I will call it networking

>>17155917
more like the language is polite, but it's hard to tell intent over text and over the internet, so it's possible to come across rude.

It's the same thing with backseaters.
"hey streamer, I think you should do this!!"
the language is polite, but the intent is rude, because the streamer is there to provide content that they want to show.
it's up for debate I guess but this is how I see it.

>>17155965
Are you a content creator?

>>17155853
>Hey anon, I know I'm the one that pays your bills but you know that one good friend of yours? You should drop them, they come off as grifters and with no good intentions. I enjoy your posts, all the best!

>>17156009
No, but if that is what it takes...

>>17155917
>"don't associate with this other person who is bad/evil, that means you agree with this bad/evil thing" is just such an SJW-community-thing to say imo
This really feels like retarded twitter cancel culture. I don't know why I'm seeing it on 4chan of all places

>>17155968
I think another factor in determining if its rude or polite is something that Calli brought up, if the fan had submitted such a suggestion through private backchannels that it wouldn't have played so poorly to her rather than a publicly visible akasupa that she read out without realizing the full content of it.

>>17156024
As Calli said, feel free to unsub and find a new oshi, she isn't hurting financially.

>>17156040
That's what I'm saying, anon. It's such a cancel-culture mentality, but I mean, we're talking about the red superchat here. This is from the "normies at large". Calli's fanbase. An individual within hololive's chat.

So it's no wonder you get to see stuff like this. You certainly wouldn't find any 4channers sending akasupas like this if not referencing this one.

>>17155853
There's nothing unknowable about Connor and his actions to the general public, and especially his actions towards Hololive and vtubing. Yes, Mori should've dropped all public contact with him and should've never associated with any outsiders in a professional setting. That's not how business is done and especially not business where image is important. On a more basic level, you can't do anything with anyone who thinks your company and its "product" is shit. This is basic common sense. So yes, that SC raised a valid concern and Mori should've cut all ties with Connor right then, and he should've been forced to issue a public apology via his youtube channel.

Also I just saw a vid of him bullying Ironmouse and fuck me the guy is a complete asshole. He's a sociopath of some sort and you can see it in his eyes. While completely unrelated to Mori to me this looks like some sort of abusive relationship. He's manipulating the shit out of her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCYG4Sr972U

>>17155968
>more like the language is polite, but it's hard to tell intent over text and over the internet, so it's possible to come across rude.
You don't honestly believe that do you? Seriously level with me anon. Telling Mori that she thinks her coworkers are talentless by hanging out with Connor is polite?

PINK CAT BAD

wait, what are we talking about?

>>17156096

>>17156096
Cool, can you make sure to never collab with my new oshi? Oh, you're in the same company? I still have to see your insufferable face constantly?

>>17155853
>thanks for the feedback lol
>defend your point with "in your face" actions, which digs a deeper hole.
Pick your poison

>>17155853
>good friend
Rumao rumao

>>17156119
>Telling Mori that she thinks her coworkers are talentless by hanging out with Connor is polite?
Facts don't care about your feelings.

>>17155917
>>17156040
>>17156104
>There's nothing unknowable about Connor and his actions to the general public, and especially his actions towards Hololive and vtubing. Yes, Mori should've dropped all public contact with him and should've never associated with any outsiders in a professional setting. That's not how business is done and especially not business where image is important. On a more basic level, you can't do anything with anyone who thinks your company and its "product" is shit. This is basic common sense. So yes, that SC raised a valid concern and Mori should've cut all ties with Connor right then, and he should've been forced to issue a public apology via his youtube channel.
Nice attempt but no dice cuckbeats. This is something else entirely and you can't gaslight us into associating this with SJW's and their cancel culture. Mori's retarded actions are completely illogical, harmful and idiotic from a business perspective and as a representative of Hololive she should've been aware of this. It's not some hidden strategy, it's basic common sense.

>>17156125
Just more seething in general over the Mori drama. OP is looking for clarification about the drama and anons are setting him straight with proper facts!
However, if you want a more entertaining thread of Mori's antis going in full meltdown mode and resorting to saying "Hi. I'm from 4chan!" check out this thread.
>>17150659

>>17156108
>should've never associated with any outsiders in a professional setting

???
Explain Marine and beatmario and zun

>>17156352
That's the exception to the rule anonchama.

>>17156251

t. not a cuckbeat even tho I'm #1 and #3 there but yeah I agree that Mori's collab with Trash Taste and her subsequent "I wanna protect Connor!!" actions is stupid.

that being said, she's free to be friends with him. just don't show it online. it is in the end somewhat detrimental to hololive. as another anon has said somewhere, her fault is not being able to separate personal matters and professional matters. Her being friends with that dickbag is one thing, but trying to defend him and maintain ties with him as "Calliope Mori" is retarded.

>>17153300
For me it's the dumb passive aggressive way she dealt with the criticism to dunk on fans and escalating with the trolls
Then how she non chalantly just admitted to doing drugs on twitter, I mean we all know these girls are on something but they keep quiet about it.
So it all comes together about how little she cares about the gig, fans and coworkers

>>17156326
real funny thread actually. 10/10.

>>17156443
>to dunk on fans
When did she do this?

>>17156571
>When did she do this?
WTF anon where have you been the past few days?

>>17156639
>where have you been the past few days?
Right here on this board. I never saw Mori dunking on fans though.

>>17156352
I don't know who beatmario is but I sure as fuck know ZUN because I was big on Touhou. As in yes, I actually played all the classic games though I was bad at them, including the pre-Windows PC-98 ones. His contributions to otaku culture are second to none and he launched an entire empire of doujins, music, animation and other fan created content that lasts unabated to this day. Fuck I love Marisa!

And then in the other corner we have a Connor. A random drifter who leeches off of a chronically sick vtuber and spouts mindless drivel on a shitty anituber podcast that can be watched only by the most casual of zoomers. Do you detect a difference between these two individuals?

>>17156399
I agree with you. I was referring strictly to her actions as Mori. I don't care in the slightest how chuuba's roommates live and act, I am also not interested in any form of doxx and so on. It's when their private bullshit seeps into things that are supposed to be a shared dream and a shared fantasy between the chuuba and her chat/fans that things go to hell. If we didn't know who Connor is there would be no problem.

>>17156708
>I never saw Mori dunking on fans though.
Because she failed miserably. Now in case you have alheimers i'll refresh your memory, Calli said that she will be sending money she gets from superchats to Connor and it backfired horribly.

>>17153377
spbp

>>17156803
No. She said that any troll SCs that insult her friends would be redirected towards those friends. That was her "dunking" on trolls, not her actual fans.
>Condom money for Connor
Hmmm might be just a hunch but I think this wasn't sent by an actual fan

>>17153300
I don't hate her.
I dislike unicorns too but mori is so stupid when it comes to handling her haters, I just can't help but to shitpost about it.
The only thing I'm genuinely angry about is how cover giving her special treatment and she gets away with her stupidity.
I don't care if she fucks Connor irl, she just need to be professional next time.

>>17156905
>That was her "dunking" on trolls, not her actual fans.
ah, now you remember! good for you

>Hmmm might be just a hunch but I think this wasn't sent by an actual fan
irrelevant

>>17156905
>but I think this wasn't sent by an actual fan
No true Scotsman, am I right?

>>17156974
>ah, now you remember! good for you
Now I remember that she never dunked on her fans? Yes.
>irrelevant
The SC that prompted her response to redirect troll SCs is irrelevant? Sure....

>>17155853
There is a huge flaw with what you're saying in that it tries to overlay what that guy says over a real life relationship. Mori is a vtuber and Connor is an eceleb - because Mori is a vtuber, their public interactions can only be online and in professional capacity. Mori could completely drop him like a hot potato while at the same time sucking his dick under the desk offline every time he does a show and nobody would be any wiser.

Everything you said falls apart when you account for that.

And her manager needs to stop mori from drinking lean. It fucks up her brain, and this Yab proves it.

>>17157071

>>17156905
She did dunk on her fan. See Exhibit A
>>17155480
This is a fan showing concern regarding her actions. She outright disregarded his opinion and doubled down by sending actual money just to "own" him.
You cuckbeats enabling her by overdosing with copium are too addled to actually consider this.

>>17157140
>no rebuttal
There we go! That's the response I was expecting. Took you long enough though.

>>17157191
how could there be a rebuttal when you just go "nu-uh", "nothingburguer" it's like talking to a wall.

>>17157155
okay sjwcucklord who can't figure context
P8nrg

Except she didn't donate the condom money SC, she donate the SC which politely asked he to stay away grom peoples that shit on Hololive.

The condom SC is just an indirect donation of Connor fan

>>17157271
Amazing counterpoint. Is this the best you can do cuckbeats?

>suspension and graduation memes dead
>still collabing with her HoloEN mates
>still collabing with vshojo
>still friends with y Ddraig Goch
>still getting shitfaced
>deadbeats still supporting her
>western audience still supporting her
>japanese fans still sipping her
>schizo /vt/ sisters impotently seething
you love to see it

>>17157326
Anon, we just don't care about your out of context posting. A true deadbeat knows that our Mori missteps then comes back stronger then ever.
Its been a verified trend.

>>17157326
you're the mori fan here not me
cope and seethe over someone saying you should lie and fluff up your cv for companies lmao

>>17156923
it's pretty obvious she reverts back to her underground rapper days whenever she's drunk, but i'm glad she's a heavy drinker and didn't go FULL retard and actually sobered up a little when the managers finally got in touch with her.

>>17157270
Woob, forgor to tag >>17157071
Honestly look at Deadcuck trying there every best to coping is suck a treat. Talking to them at this point is like talking to a brickwall with will deflect everything. Lol

All in all, yes, she did dumd on her fan in favorite of the one shit talk hololive

And the condom SC are irrelevant.

>>17157431
>All in all, yes, she did dumd on her fan in favorite of the one shit talk hololive
The fuck are you trying to say esl

Do JP bros have the same drama or are western manbabbies really that bad?

>>17156788
I'm not the one who came into the thread with the monolithic declaration of 'no outsiders in professional setting'.

>>17157431
aww, why are you so upset that mori has male friends?
jesus since when did it be okay to be like reddit and twitter here

>>17153377
>>17153377
>She is a dumb ,drug addicted whore
lmaoooooo. That's just being an American in general then

>>17157386
>>17157411
>out of context
>deflection
>nothingburger
Hope you have a steady supply of fallacies along with that copium cuckbeats.

>>17157469
I've heard of anti threads so I assume its similar for them.

>>17157431
>All in all, yes, she did dumd on her fan in favorite of the one shit talk hololive
Amazing work ESL-kun.

>>17157469
2ch blamed the koreans

>faced with evidence resorts to namecalling
Keep going

>>17153300
I fucking hate this bitch, she talk about drugs on her company twitter and associate with that anituber faggot but nothing happens yet coco makes a genuine mistake and gets CHINKED. I hope she graduates

>>17157522
nigger I don't even watch mori, you're the cuckbeat here who got so upset about virtual women lmao
go get some actual ass or dick faggot

>>17157522
Man you even type like a console war poster, This'll be the last (you) you get my man. Enjoy your buzzwords.

>>17157091
I would agree if this was any other Hololiver but this is Calli. It is quite clear she is not interested in playing by the stereotypical Idol/Hololive playbook. Now, that does branch into a separate discussion of whether she should be part of Hololive.

>>17157386
>Still convince them self that it out of context, and Mori will learn after she come back.

Why Deadcuck like this. I don't know if Mori will be the first to graduated or not, but i know for the FACTS that she would be the first one to turn on Hololive when she gone. Screenshot this and used it on the Cuckbeats when that time come.

>>17153737
Ah i see so this is how these fags try to start shit. By clipping parts of streams. Jesus Christ,fag show us where the anituber who doesn't have any problems collabing with vtubers and made a statement you retards make every few posts touched you. I know its hard to believe that Mori or other vtuber talks to other people but being so mad at a person that you start making this kind of shit is pathetic. Off yourself,unicorn

>>17157549
Have you seen the 5chan thread yet lol

>>17153737

>Conner talking shit

But he's right.

>>17157649
I don't care if she turns on hololive after, they made money from her and she made money from them. I probably won't follow other then maybe listening to some of her music.
Too many vtubers to care and I'm not a company loyalist.

>>17157516
>reddit and twitter
>he doesn't know
This nigger doesn't know that nobody cared about anything here. 4chink just wants to stir up the shit filled pot for lulz. Everything is a lolcow

>>17156108
I saw this posted a hundred times and tried watching it for once. Holy shit this is terrible. There's NO way it wasn't intentional, and then he dragged it out knowing well that it will get clipped and retards will spam shit like "he accidentally made Mouse cry and started apologizing, he was so cute, they're such good friends!".

>>17157379
I have been having a blast in these threads man. Watching schizos desperately cope and attempt to send their rrats to 5ch using DeepL is a goddamn riot. Check out this thread if you haven't already.
>>17150659
>Hello! I'm from 4chan!

>>17157604
>I don't even watch mori
Amazing defense cuckbeats. Best one I've heard.

>>17157516
Awwww, cuck. And let be clear 99% if not 100% of Holo EN have male friends, i i dont care

>>17157379
the thing is, the entiry of /vt/ is barely the 10% of the viewerbase, this girl gets a lot of anti-threads here but the IP count isn't over 1000 in total and then she streams with 10k people watching.

>>17155480
Thats such a loaded superchat,holy shit. It can go either way. Its basically saying"i'm telling you to stop doing this but at the same time if you say something about me telling you what to do then it will look bad on you". To think this happened because of a clip taken out of context. Holy shit

>>17153737
>Hololive fans are basically idol fans who are like "DON'T TOUCH MY QUEEN"
Show the lie. There are unicorns in tears on here just over the thought of HolostarsEN existing.

>>17153300
idk about anyone else but here's why i hate her
>her music
>her voice
>her attitude towards hololive
>reddit humor
>yo boy
>awkward in every single collab and generally just not fit to be an entertainer
>fat
>wigger

>>17157469
One thing I know that is discussed in the JP sphere frequently is their rampant concern with their relationship status and whether their hymen is still intact.

>>17157819
It's wild right? The schizos in the vtubing community are completely fucking insane. The fact that this SC is being pushed as "polite" is something else man.

>tried to enjoy terraria stream
>mori's drunk voice ruined it

>>17153737
>Connor grooming
Holy shit. Do you actually believe in this unironically? All westard drama involved
>muh grooming
Fucking kys.Jesus, all westard can think is about pedophilia. Listern here, faggot. I disliked Connor because : 1. He's an SJW; 2. He's just ignorant. But there's just no point going out of my way for all of this.

>>17157881
Thats the assumed stance the people that want to bring down a person can take. Its very polite to fart in someone face if you say after they get mad that it is part of their culture and you are insensitive

>>17157702
If some faggot states while streaming "all the Vshojo girls are whores"
He would be right, but that doesn't make it correct, and if that faggot later asks a piece of the cake with collabs and twitter mentions... well, I'm pretty sure coca cola fires his employees if they catch them drinking pepsi, why would a faggot that publicly hates a brand not have the same treatment?

>>17157379
Screenshot this one, can't wait to used this on Deadcuck when she finally graduated.

Let be honest here you and i all know that she learn nothing from this, and her next fuck up is just the matter of time. So yes, enjoy your little victory and thrown your financial saving at her, her downfall are as inevitable as death itself. And when that time come, i will be there to laugh at you, Deadcuck.

>>17157667
oh god what's our even more retarded cousins talking about?

is grooming just another word on its way to lose all meaning?

>watch terraria collab
>moris is the fucking same as always
you did it /vt/, your final yab clearly destroyed her.
fucking retards.

>>17157997
Pretty much yeah. Though schizos were making retarded "grooming" claims a while back

>>17157734
That one are so bad im literally in tears. I thinks only newfag cjph0yould be able to fuck up that bad

does anyone have any clips of these supas being read out?

>>17153300
>>17153377
oh so it's a nothingburger then? im going back to my discord

>>17158113
see
>>17153327
nice job sticking to the trick though anon gotta give you credit for that

>>17157983
Get a load of it yourself. It's a fucking gold mind
https://greta.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/poverty/1643158666/

Some of the parts I like personally are
燃えてる海外ニキの怒りはどこにあるのかというと、(知能が低い部類と思っていい)
and the fact an anon tried to post a shitty translation that was posted here there, and they either ignored or roasted the shit out of him lmao

If there are any nijiniggers in this thread, they saw a thing about Vox fucking a 12 year old and some are saying they should get a background check on him. If Mori is responsible for Vox getting canned I can only imagine the shitstorm. They're not talking as much now, but they're saying Mori's hot and that's about it.

>>17158187
But anon, what if it WAS a nothingburger. Also who the fuck came up with that words its dumb as hell.

>>17158104
https://youtu.be/MXh0xBaItcc?t=803

>>17157957
This isnt the same because the majority of the hololive community isn't antis, or schizos that gossip and spread rumors like children. He called out the bad ones, if you are offended, then he did his job. Calli will recover, and you will find the new drama of the week to masterbate over.

>>17155853
>deadbraps actually believe this

>>17156162
Sounds like a you problem desu

>>17158206
>second post
>なんの話かさっぱりわからん
>I have no idea what you're talking about.

pretty based

>>17157957
Thats because, if we follow your example, its the same as the fag saying that coke has way too much sugar in a video once, and every person trying to start shit continues using the clip to say that the guy hates coke and wants it gone every time they see him drink it.You are at the same level as a fucking doomsayer

Some fucking jannie "warned" me over posting about this drama.

>>17155480
Imagine being such a cuck that you have to spend $100 to complain about an online anime girl talking to a boy you don't like lmao. Embarrassing.

>>17155853
That's how it usually is with the leftie progressive types. They even disown family members over different opinions in politics and try to cancel everyone who don't follow the mainstream narrative. Everyone they disagree with are nazies, far right and conspiracy theorist despite they and the mainstream media pushing Russiagate for 4 years. Everyone who disagreed was a Russian bot and at the end it was all lies. Literally made up and no one went to prison for it.

>>17158206
They're calling us Kenmomen lmao

It would be hilarious if the reason she vehemently defends that greasy fuck is because she was the one who cried about herself being talentless and undeserving of her position while inhaling some lean.

>>17156108
Are you the kind of person that complain about Karen's? Cause you all are the biggest bitches.

Really grasping for straws with the video. If not, I imagine you are foreign, and dont know English, or are very under educated.

>>17158275
>It isn't the same.
>It literally is
>You are just antis, shizos, and Conner are right.
My poor fucking side. I love Dead cuck so much i can't lie

>>17157881
The correct word for that superchat is "insidious"

>>17158275
That crying cuckbeat is never going away. It's gonna be like /vt/'s banana. You can be lame all you want, but as a longtime fan, I'm not sure how to cope.

>>17158528
>angryfaceunderhappymaskwojak.jpg

>>17158275
Ah, so he didn't spread rumors about the fans and their idolfag behavior? Got it

>>17158497
Watch this post become a "reality" in a couple of iterations over a dozen threads. The armchair psychologists in this place are ridiculous. I get trying to decypher body language but the only thing you have going with vtubers is the tone of the voice and even that is stretching it.

>>17158538
I dont watch calli, but what does this place have to do with your enjoyment of your oshi.

>>17158565
Why not just post picture then ? This is a imagine board.

>>17158584
You wouldn't even need an imaginary psychologist to figure out how cripplingly low esteem she has.

>woman is a whore

surprise: every vtuber is the same irl

>>17157980
Hahahahaa go ahead she won't graduate

>>17158567
Yea you got it, thanks for using your brain retard. Hes right, clearly as you're seething that he's right. We all know it too, most fans are ok. However some, you, make the community shit. He's not talking about a individual, he's implying that parts of the community are shit. That isn't a rumor.

>>17157722
The dude is giving me bad vibes. I feel like a stumbled onto a new rabbit hole by accident. Ironmouse is vulnerable and I think this turd is milking that for all that it's worth. He's manipulating her. There's a note of genuine sadism behind his words.

>>17158639
Needy Girlfriend Overdose game was right all along

>>17157722
>>17158687
>anonchama realizes the schizo was right all along
You love to see it when it happens

>>17158687
Or you're just retarded. "Hey guys mouse is sad,but let's harrad these other vtubers!" Stop pretending like you care. This is genuine, and their friends.

>>17158643
Oh im sure she won't, not now at least. But she will eventually go out with a yab, and i will be there with that screenshot, laughing my ass off.

>>17158767
>>17157722
>>17158687

Samefag, and schizos.

>>17158787
It's like multiple sentences collided and this mess came out.

>>17158767
Seriously this is some weird shit, why isn't this discussed at all. Connor is so obviously fucked up it isn't even subtle. He isn't even hiding it.

>>17158900
I think Mouse is an adult who knows what she is doing. She us running a business and she is playing her sick card(not saying she isn't sick) very well. Connor accepted and is doing his part in the narrative. The retards got hooked onto "unga bunga must protect"/"they are such good friends,holy shit". They might enjoy each other's company but it is a business firstmost

>>17158605
It sounds like you've never been in global during a Karaoke. It's basically chat with images and less spam.

>>17153300
she took a bait seriously, thats it
no spergs here are having fun

>>17156571
It all originated when one concernfag donated and very politely asked her to not collab with the anituber instead of de-escalating the thing or brushing it off

>>17158900
>why isn't this discussed at all
Psychos are good at manipulating people.

>>17159110
That is not politely. Stop bringing up this narrative. If you consider yourself such an expert in psychology then you can fucking see how disingenious the SC is

>>17159188
It was the dude was clearly troubled
You are as high on copium as mori was on morphine and alcohol

The fact that so many books still name Mori Calliope as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" VTuber ever only tells you how far HoloEN still is from becoming a serious art. HoloJP critics have long recognized that the greatest streamers of all times are Akai Haato and Tokoyami Towa, who are not the most famous or richest or most viewed of their time, let alone of all time. NijisanjiEN critics rank the highly controversial Pomu over Apex streamers who are highly popular with audiences around the world. HoloEN critics are still blinded by commercial success. Mori Calliope gets more supas than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore she must have been the greatest. HoloJP and Nijisanji critics grow up watching the VTubers of the past. HoloEN critics are often totally ignorant of the VTubers of the past, they barely know who has the biggest numbers. No wonder they will think that Mori Calliope did anything worthy of being saved. In a sense, Mori Calliope is emblematic of the status of VTuber criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to commercial phenomena (be it wigger hip hop MVs or CCV) and too little to the merits of real streamers. If somebody broadcasts the most divine streams but no corpo picks her up and sells her around the world, a lot of HoloEN critics will ignore her. If Hololive picks up a streamer who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her. This is the sad status of HoloEN criticism: HoloEN critics are basically publicists working for Mori Calliope. They simply highlight what product Hololive wants to make money from. Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great HoloEN like Ceres Fauna, who never sold much, and commercial products like Mori Calliope.

>>17159188
>disingenious
Who are you white knighting for, the girl who called you a cuck or the actual psycho that bullied mouse into crying?

What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Mori Calliope. I went to her YouTube channel, bought a membership, and watched her streams. I suffered a great deal in the process. The humor was dreadful; the personality was terrible. As I watched, I noticed that every time she gave praise to someone, the VTuber instead offered "big ups." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Calliope's mind is so governed by cliches and wiggerisms that she has no other style of streaming.

But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now watch only Mori Calliope, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than watching nothing at all? If Mori was what it took to make them pick up streaming, wasn't that a good thing?

It is not. Mori Calliope will not even lead our children on to Ninomae Ina'nis or Takanashi Kiara. It will not lead them to Hoshimachi Suisei or Tsunomaki Watame or Ookami Mio.

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Mori Calliope by Connor "CDawgVA" Colquhoun. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are watching Mori Calliope at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to watch Trash Taste." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you watch "Mori Calliope" you are, in fact, trained to watch Trash Taste.

>>17159300
>the girl who called you a cuck
everyone seems to fail to understand that not a single cuckbeat has problem with being called cucks, if anything they seems to revel in it

>>17153858
he's one of those leftist perpetual university student types, nobody here likes them, which is why he fled to japan
2 years in japan and he can barely speak the language

>>17159269
>>17159300
I really enjoyed your comments but in my opinion you SHOULD stop posting in this thread because there are people who suck cock and IF you post in this thread you are admitting that you also enjoy doing the same thing? Nigger, have you ever taken an english course on what words mean? They way you use "should","might",would" betrays your intent. That was literally a warning disguised as an opinion from which you can backpedal if people call on your shit. This bitch doesn't like being told what to do and she flipped out on the guy who low key was telling her who not to speak to

>>17159188
>My cuckass and Oshi dont like it, so it must be impolite.

Love you soo much, Cuckbeat, please never change and keep telling your Oshi she did nothing wrong, thanks.

>>17159470
I don't think she "hates" when j-chad was sick, just goes to show bravery juice to lose her restraints or not. Clearly This country is a more terrible swamp than a circle-the-wagons moment around a completely obliterating the fanbase seems like a win going "You're playing a cutesy game with the cringe. I'm all for sperging out at its core, in conflict with who Mori believes she is RIGHT NOW. (She may be able to change, but so far she does not want to make announcements she would have never gotten in that retarded twitter slapfight with some rando.
>>17159466
You guys are so fucking mental a couple of german streamers would nuke this board without a second thought and the board would still be like this. Maybe less if it's a lesbian spa love trip, and all Mori's thinking about is dick dick dick dick dick dick dick dick dick. Before the chicken could even say CAN I PLEASE HAVE SOME FUN PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!

>>17159466
Yes, i do enjoy suck cock, no i wont post my tits.
Oh and since you are posting here does that mean we share same interested ?

>>17159466
Also adding to my comment let me put this in a different perspective. If a janny comes in the thread and says that in his opinion you should stop shitposting because you are admitting you are a shithead, would you take it? Knowing the userbase on 4chan they would start a (you) train calling the guy a fag. Jesus, be careful not to fall from your pony and break you neck, being that high up the moral ground may be dangerous

>>17159624
Touche, anon! I can't be mad about that. I will give you this win. You are alright, hope you have a great day

>>17154779
>when she was bullied in school.
Fucking wigger got what she deserved

>>17159466
It's a donation to a virtual girl. I think if you try to psychoanalyze it or interpret it with anything other than pity, then you're gonna have a bad time. I mean just today she made 9k off insane spineless people, how can any honest person look at it without pity or sympathy?
Even if we try to understand these people, there is nothing good there. Desperation, loneliness, and parasocial relationships that aren't good for the spirit. Some of them are even unironic crazies chasing windmills, claiming that donating to a girl that is self immolating is some kind of cultural battle against patricical purity.

>>17159608
It been more than 1 fucking year anon. ONE, FUCKING, YEAR. And she still show NO sign of change. She still awkward and low energy when collab with in house, she still ALMOST missing out birthday stream like last yeah(If Ame didnt by time for her to wake up, she would have missed it). And now she bite bait like Kiara or Marien hungry for some cuchie. And now her entire fa base celebrate their "victory" by sending money and tell her that she did nothing wrong. God , i literally cant wait to she what her next yab will be.

>>17159992
I went too far by interacting with the crazies here. Reading retarded posts does that to a person. I just don't like the thought of not getting content that i might enjoy out of some people just because some asshole is mad about his delusions. To me its like the tv show i eatch is delayed because some retard cancelled the main actor for having a "wrong opinion". I find it highly hypocritical that people here argue against twitter retards and do the same thing. Im out of here, got things to do and kids to help

>>17160150
Have fun anon, a fair amount of these people here are just the opposite side of the coin of the people they claim to hate.

A thesis on Mori's insane level of Imposter Syndrome that she's tried to overcome since high school.

She fucked up.
Big time.

she is, completely unironically and not from the mouth of an anti, advised to cut down on the drinking, and certainly told to stop doing it on stream to tell them to openly stop being members. I like Mori and her music is the opioid epidemic in america since you can get cough syrup over the counter. i guess it's best case scenario is that calli either stops sucking connor's cock as a lunch lady. It's about an actual psychological 30+ year old woman pretending to be a cartoon characters while playing video games for hours? This is not entertaining when your critique is of vtubing as a whole? Further, are you aware that this is /vt/?

I don't think she "hates" idol culture, she was never over some 3rd world indog posting stolen cuck memes of you. Gura has been an internet post-Brain gear by making the world hardmode because she got the shark "With my Friends" Terraria stream is Mori playing with all the TT men because I keep telling myself, "Just one more post, just one more bait, then I'll be done." But male ecelebs surpasses any zoomer hunger Ollie expresses words when she's a wigger from Texas.

Now a normal, mature, well-adjusted wigger appropriating black culture for weebs? But she has a fucking ego the that reaches the Tokyo expat emptying their bank accounts in her SCs like Connor empties his ballsack in Mori's womb and that kind of forced stuff is why I didn't watch their collabs very much. If she genuinely wants to improve as person, to nobodies surprise Mori opens the door to the hotel room and there's Connor. "Ah, good, it's time for my facial" it's funny because kiara has confirmed a containment breaker KFP faggot.wasn't in contact with Trash Taste for a collab, but that was then twisted s a serious part of the opioid epidemic in america since you can get cough syrup over the counter.

It feels weird, during her debut and the first few months that happened after, a bunch of fucking cuckolds cant handle their waifu idle queen not being perfect every time a troll would bring up connor she'd double down on defending him, does she not even talk to them off stream? Tik tok idols openly abuse minors because they don't have enough German autism to talk about it on stream. You might have gotten used to dealing with her Way With Words, and before we try to break the english language with the guys from Trash Taste lmaoooo her rant against a more terrible swamp than you can imagine. Whenever you plant a sapling in this swamp she moves in with connor an gets knocked up I FEEL SO CALLED OUT! Which to her is like death.

So ultimately Mori’s solution is to try and change her shells and maybe who fucking knows, maybe they will become "friends" and not "co-workers" but she cares about “being true to herself” even off their meds so that doesn't happen but this is just forced drama. Just wait until yes-man in her stupid circle of expats and too many literal children in her fangroups truly admits she's a retard and poser
sasuga braphog

>>17160150
>I find it highly hypocritical that people here argue against twitter retards and do the same thing.
You best be believing in horseshoe theories anon... this entire incident made it painfully obvious that 4chan, twitter, and reddit are one and the same at this point

>>17160395
pretended to be retards for long they they felt like they belonged etc

>>17160374
Fucking ESL lol

>>17160519
It screams "i have friends and you personally apologized to NordVPN and ExpressVPN are basically free if you cancel within 30 days. You can even lie Mori looks bussin woman knows how the game is loot goblin will drop bread crumbs about how toxic idol culture is but she "loves" her old friends, until say 2-3 years pass when she will openly shit in her sheltered world she forgot wtf it meant. But keep schizoing, /vt/ will be flooded with screenshots of a leech just because a long time member pointed it out how fucked up it is to befriend such person.

>>17160150
Lmao, reading the posts here, most of the retards sperging out over Mori's yabs don't even seem to watch her streams. The fuck ups she's had over the past weeks are bad, sure, but the niggers making noise here are making these yabs look much worse than they are, even going as far as to claim that she makes collabs bad and isn't working hard since debut until now, even though she's been the busiest HoloEN for over half-a-year now and was even the most entertaining part of the major collabs (anniv, halloween, sports festival, jackbox post-dress reveal, etc).
Now, I won't deny that there are genuine deadbeats among the shit flingers here, but the majority of them are mostly day 1 antis just waiting for a trigger to finally unleash all their faggotry about Mori. Doesn't help that she keeps giving them ammo either.

>>17160639
Did you just have a stroke?

>>17160826
I don't want to be mean but i thought the same thing.

Are you ok,anon? I blacked out on 2 or 3 things you wrote

>>17160017
Are you mad because she flunked you in her English class? It's for good reason.

>>17156040
Bruh 4chan has became reddit/tumblr tier, tranniers made this place their home and people don't see a problem with that nowadays. So don't act surprised when o usee the overlap

>>17160374
Don't bother trying to post anything legit, the only word half these people know is cuck so they couldn't read it if they wanted to.

>>17160639
Holy punctuation, retard, use that shit.

>>17160973
cuckbeat please.... at least try to be coherent

>>17161019
I'm sorry, I'll say it in your language.
Cope cuck sneed sneed chuck cuck cuck sneed? Dilate tialte cuck sneed cope.

>>17160762
Which is wrong, she does, but she cares about “being true to herself” when the lean craze was at its peak doesnt know what lean is ignore everything and just fly to and fuck every single Indonesian girl I see until Risu spawns another mini Risu (who hopefully will do more karaoke streams than her)
>>17160826
Just coming out of the bunker to post about it again after what happened on a cutesy game with the cinnamon rolls or you're out on your ass, bitch" All I hope for is that Mori isn't an annoying bitch about her kouhai's taste in games, and she still managed to be a prepotent cunt.
Karen's can't evolve it seems.
>>17160875
Yep. This is obviously Mori still seething about nga zhangs for wheelbarrow technology a hundred bucks unironically, and /vt/ is being a bunch of dramaniggers acting like angry middle aged women who confirmed that Trash Taste had not in fact reached out to her after Connor's whole "Why are you a customer if you don't like the way I run the restaurant? I can hire who I like!"

>>17161067
Don't put words in my mouth dude. You can go on your hate tirade as much as you want. The only thing i wish is that you would take your meds before you suspect me of actually being the cops coming after your genius level brain.

>>17160993
Anon that is a copypasta.

>>17161205
Huh, never seen that one before. Oh well.

>>17161191
Nnot really. Them being anituber just means that no one frequenting this board would detect non-residential IPs like 4chan, so if anyone could point me in the direction of this, she responded to a shitpost image of her and cdawgva fucking and cucking a deadbeats skeleton but they obviously don't like each other, i'm not saying they're mortal enemies where Kiara says she hasn't been in touch with the Trash Taste people, ostensibly about $250 worth of sub gifts while he's streaming
>>17161205
some unicorn nigger chides mori isn't even a black people thing. It's Texan autists got spergy over calli being friendly with someone who dared to joke because cute anime character, else it's miles below even the melody feature

>>17160374
>Just wait until yes-man in her stupid circle of expats and too many literal children in her fangroups truly admits she's a retard and poser
That was always the problem with her collabing with TT. She's been building a fanbase that likes retarded posers and only watches retarded posers. For weeks after the podcasts, the split would become something like /a/ during the aftermath of the kyoto anime fire. Trolls shitting on everything and joking about it in their ironic anime "chad" discords.

>>17160374
>>17160639
>>17161067
>>17161330
I literally have no idea what the fuck this guy's talking about. There are coherent sentences here and ghere but the rest is just garbled mess.

Are you fucking drunk, anon?

>>17161553
*there

>>17161553
and the reine pic
is anon a seanig?

>>17161553
Exactly, this whole thing would be a nothingburger to learn some lesson at bare minimum (although ideally she just would have made her first baby steps into ecelebdom in this hellhole. Blue woman nukes Wall of Flesh alone without an arena while everyone else has a woman moment because chicken killed an imp w/ doll.
>Are you fucking drunk, anon?
Strong, independent wigger who dont need no gachis

>>17161336
you just replied to a fucking markov chain post making fun of how dumb you are seriously, absolutely check your brain out and take your meds

>>17161814
I just wanted to give it a (you). All that effort for nothing would be too sad.

I think the heart of the issue is that a lot of people here are deeply invested in Hololive and think poorly of Mori because she was essentially given a choice between supporting Hololive and its fans and defending someone who has nothing to do with Hololive. She choose the latter, and naturally the people who do value Hololive were upset with that.
Her handling of early criticism showed a clear preference to Connor at the expense of the her fans and the people she calls friends, and allowing the contention to get to the point where the entire debacle devolved into a twitter debacle, which she then attempted to garner sympathy for, reflected very poorly on her. Of course her super whales are going to defend her and get right back to throwing money at her and Hololive, but it's impossible to ignore the elephant in the room that is Mori's unprofessionalism. I won't excuse rabid antis, but the idea that the fans are entirely to blame for this whole episode is nonsense, she shouldn't have interacted with her antis in this matter and then gone on a social media meltdown, end of story.
Hopefully she learns from this and reigns in the behavior that lead to this point.

>>17156352
>anituber simp trying to throw shit at ZUN one of the few based people in the games industry
I knew you faggots had shit taste and knowledge of anything but I didn't think it was this bad.

>>17157504
>no outsiders in professional setting
But that's preciesly what ZUN isn't. He's a professional and a cultural staple of the otaku community. Some faggot on youtube is an outsider. ZUN is a professional.

>>17162046
>Hopefully she learns from this
That's the thing though, i always dismissed her as a fucking retard that lowers the quality of every single collab she is part of, and nothing has changed apart from her being triggered by trolls like some utter newfag and ensuring that nothing ever will improve with her.

>>17157702
He's right because he described himself. He's wrong about Hololive because he doesn't understand what company reputation actually means and how it works.
The initial numbers occur because Hololive built up a positive reputation of good hiring practices with its other gens. That initial sub count is the company's reputation talking not the talent's abilities. After the debut happens it's on the girls to KEEP and build that audience. On top of that the retarded faggot doesn't understand how competitive entertainment auditions are. He's never been through anything more than a burger flipping job interview AT MOST. Knowing how stringent a company with a good reputation has to be when choosing it's new talents shows that faking it will get you caught very easily if you lie. Those interviews aren't one and done, there's a first round, then there's a second round, then a third and so on until it filters all the way down to the absolute cream of that crop. If there isn't a cream of the crop they'll pick no one.
Understanding business and the entertainment industry is crucial for this and that's something that little faggot doesn't even have the most surface level knowledge of.

>>17162341
Fine then, Zun is representative of the peak of the Hololive fandom that existed before HoloMyth. Calli is an example of an outsider brought into the big tent, now she is bringing her outsider friends into the big tent as well. I think that in a way is what is at the core of this, old Holo fans mad at Calli for opening the backdoor to a new crowd.

This whole thing will only help her, if she can keep her mental. Some amount of drama is good for business, especially when her opponents are so obviously one dimensional bad guys to everyone else.

>>17162046
>Hopefully she learns from this and reigns in the behavior that lead to this point.
She won't because her inner circle of expats and her hardcore fanbase will enable her behavior. The best Hololive fans can hope for is that the rest of the girls see her as the social retard she is and that management can tardwrangle her to mitigate any future damage.

This is just an accumulation of dumb shit she has done, and the recent stuff was just what boiled everything over. I never really hated Mori before, but this recent shit on top of everything else prior was just too much.

EN 3 WILL HAVE 2 HOLOS THAT CAN SPEAK JP, THIS IS MY FINAL COPE FOR EN

>>17162577
>opening the backdoor to a new crowd.
you didn't have to be that blunt about it

>>17162989
Just wait until HoloStarsEN debuts.

>>17162441
>>17162800
I doubt she will, but hopefully they tighten the leash on her and make it very obvious that if she can't hold herself to a certain standard of behavior, management will. But it's hard to realise that you're also at fault for the drama when this is the kind of response you're given on your return
>https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1486265127687000067
It's not vindictive, but I honestly think she should have been made to definitely and officially apologise on stream.

>>17163079
The best thing a jp company would do in this situation is keep it hush hush, and take away her social media accounts. They probably are now monitoring her in effective public suicide watch so she won't get into another shitstorm thanks to the drankies.
Just pretend that nothing happened in public and restrict her private activity. That's probably what happened.

>>17163328
Anon where are these big assumptions come from? Your assuming a whole hell of a lot.

>>17162577
The absolute best thing that a company like hololive could ever hope for is to get someone who can reach a different audience.

>>17163079
When management tightens the leash, her eceleb friends will enable her and because of that, she'll continue to do stupid shit thinking she's some sort of trailblazer until the restrictions gets so stifling that she resentfully graduates. The hope is that she doesn't rock the boat too much during that time period.

>>17153842
>getting 9K dollars
Do you understand how hard you have lost?

>>17163328
I imagine that nothing did happen for most of her fans outside of this echo chamber. They probably saw that Mori wasn't streaming and just assumed she was sick.
Based on her tweets since then, this fellow is closer to the truth >>17163455
I'm personally partial the rrat that she wants to "redebut."

>>17162577
>>17163399
lol if you think there's any money to be made off leeches like connor and his frw viewers. He's the kind of guy who drags down existant channels like Abroad whenever he's on.

>>17163549
She made more money last year than anyone in holoEN.

>>17163488
>cuckbeat thinks anyone who isn't whiteknighting Moririn is an anti on a war against her

I'm just answering OP's question, "why do some people hate Mori?" and even prefaced it with the fact that I don't know most of the shit in exact detail and have them in the wrong orders, having other anons correct it for me. I don't hate her enough to make shitpost threads about her, I just laugh at stuff. also had to laugh at you being a numberfag and think 9K dollars from a fanbase filled with yes-men is "winning". I don't even care who wins in this pathetic "war", I just like lurking on /vt/ and posting shit. direct your "you have lost" at someone who actually cares.

>>17163712
Not that anon but you spent a just spent a little to long explaining how you don't care anon.

>>17163783
fair point. time to log off.

There are two big issues in this whole situation.
First, Connor's statement is undefendable from the standpoint of someone who's associated with Hololive, be it a talent, staff or a fan. Even if you accept the argument that he didn't mean any current members (which is likely, let's not deny that), it seriously questions the capabilities of the hiring staff vetting out liars in the hiring process. The fact that he has someone who went through the process and he still brought up Hololive as an example is not helping either. A public apology would suffice here.
The second, and bigger problem is that Mori is incapable of letting it go, and the longer this situation goes on, the bigger chance it impacts not just her, but her genmates and the company overall as well. The first SC that brought this up was handled pretty poorly and instead of moving on, she's continuing to feed the trolls by giving them attention. The whole situation has also impacted her content output, both in quantity and quality, which is undesirable. Again, an apology to the viewers (and her colleagues, considering it has reached multiple of them already) would do her well, to reassure everyone that she's on the side of her company.
>>17163399
>The absolute best thing that a company like hololive could ever hope for is to get someone who can reach a different audience that can be assimilated into the existing audience
Here, now it's correct. Now ask yourself if the anituber audience is worth getting into Hololive.

>>17163943
>Now ask yourself if the anituber audience is worth getting into Hololive.
Or better yet, ask yourself if that audience will tolerate the original audience and not do anything to oust them like every other hobby that gets subverted.

>>17155184
>Calli isn't the type
Then she shouldn't be a vtuber. There are certain expectations and obligations that come with this profession and one of them is keeping your roommate's shit as far away from you as possible, ESPECIALLY when you're contracted to a company like Hololive because every single thing you say and do publicly reflects not only on yourself, but on your company and genmates as well. When she's acting under the Mori Calliope name and persona, she needs to fucking behave or she's going to be VShojo'd and find herself with dwindling prospects.

>>17164140
How many people actually watch these retards?

>>17162046
Also adding to my comment let me put this in a different white woman obsessed with acting black is not the sick own that you think it is
Quite the opposite actually, since you are ignoring an actual black rapper/rap fan on YouTube that reacted to most of Mori's songs? It's being used to shitpost by a vast majority of Blacks stateside cannot comprehend that. It's a tapestry of ridiculousness, but what does this place have to do with your enjoyment of your oshi.
>>17163943
She admitted on Twitter that she's biting the trolls' baits and what anons saw as her trying to fight back by bringing up the anti-Connor superchats on stream, liking a fan who sent SC saying "hey maybe don't interact too much with Connor since he hates a giant faggot and by extension we're going to start thinking you're a giant faggot too. I enjoy your posts, all the best!
>>17164309
I don't know when or how the cuckbeat sent her an akasupa asking her to cut ties with the manlet faggot, why? quick, substitute lean with atrocious ape noises that you call american rap.
>>17164414
Some amount of drama is good for business, especially when her opponents are Ceres Fauna, who never sold much, and commercial products like Mori Calliope.

if youre writing or reading any of these insanely long posts then you're irreparably fucked.

>>17164577
I think the heart of the issue is that a lot of people here are a normal, mature, well-adjusted wigger appropriating black culture then when they get older they will go on to watch Trash Taste." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic.

>>17164577
I know anon, and I’m just 18… .

>>17164577
says you.

>>17154345
The funny thing is that since she only gets a cut of the original akasupa, Mori paid at least $100 out of pocket to suck Connor's dick

>>17164711
She should have made it clear that she was donating half to Amazon as well as conner, maybe people would be even more mad about it.

>>17164711
kek

>>17164577
Maybe twitter is more your speed.

>>17164681
But that's preciesly what ZUN isn't. He's a professional and a cultural elephant in the room that is Mori's unprofessionalism. I won't excuse rabid taste in games, and she still managed to be a prepotent publicists working for Mori Calliope.
>>17164711
Another cuckbeat root is c*onnor, the whole thing started because the drug addict nigger of Kiara's King prank and about Heart Challenger. Mori is not NTR fanart where Connor of Trash Taste is fucking her in front of a deadbeat (an immature and spiteful woman, and since this site just has a lot of incels and trolls by nature Calli overreacted and kept fanning the flames with her shared fantasy between the chuuba and her chat/fans that things go to hell.
>>17164799
I doubt she will, but hopefully they tighten every single Indonesian girl I see until Risu spawns another mini Risu

>>17164835
Is someone making a deep/vt/ bot or something

>>17164937
Well it's either that or we're seeing the mind of a truly mind broken anti.

>>17162261
everything zun did that isnt music sucks and touhou is a blight

play a cave game

>>17163943
>Here, now it's correct. Now ask yourself if the anituber audience is worth getting into Hololive.
Autistic fans might want to keep their circle tight, but Hololive is a business and the purpose of a business is to make money. There is no sane company on Earth that would say no to more people to sell their product to.

>>17165605
Now a normal, mature, well-adjusted person would get to Connor in a surefire way to graduate to something stronger than lean when you leave the branching General threads for palm of their hands is probably one of the cleanest places, "Sorry you feel that way, but yes-man in her stupid circle of expats and too many literal children hates" idol culture, she will just attract more black Twitter to shit all over her

>>17164981
Agreed that the music is great but I don't get the appeal of everything else surrounding him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDgJXZon17g

>>17165652
You should have not skipped the English lessons Ahmed. I honestly have no idea what you are saying.

boredom

>>17163819
Holy shit some self awareness

>>17164981
>>17165826
kek, these faggots failed so badly when they tried to play an overpriced touhou game. You thought it was gonna be a fun and easy game huh?

>>17165605
>is a business and the purpose of a business is to make money

>>17166039
the cave poster is almost certainly a mad online shmup nerd angry that Touhou overshadows his shitty pet genre

Try to do it somewhere else. you will never understand /vt/.

I partook in some of the Mori shitposting but the argument of "Mori is a druggie because she tweeted about taking lean, graduate her NOW" is made in such bad faith when it was clearly a joke.

I just find it hard to believe that she would go through the trouble to fake a subscription for codeine syrup, with her shitty Japanese, just to make some shitty drink for a baby high when just plain booze can get you fucked up more, and its more conveniently available.

I find it more believable that she's just a dumb white poser that heard the word mentioned in rap songs and thought it was a catchall term for booze.

You see many HoloEN members making jokes about the funny weed number 420, pretty much acknowledging marijuana and normalizing it, but you never see that being used as them being druggies.

>>17163505
>I'm personally partial the rrat that she wants to "redebut."

I mean her friend Sydney is part of Vshojo right? They are also don't give much of a fuck about the line between vtuber and roommate and 'professionalism' which seems to be one of the biggest things some are squawking about itt.

>>17166292
So? Getting drunk and shiposting on your company account is hardly better?

>>17166334
And because of that Sydney doesn't have the same types of unicorns like hololive has and can make a running gag of her not being Hime. I enjoy hololive more but the idea that their identities are really the character and can't talk about anything because they are "seiso" is a joke that became such a big thing in the unicorn circle that they had to mantain it. None of the talents want to do shit like this, always circling on the edge of "she is not seiso right now haha". Even Yagoo doesnt want to interact wirh you fags because of the stupid shitty meme of "AKB haha Idol group haha...broken dreams hahha"

The root cause is that the girls want to collab with males and the fanbase doesn't want them to

>>17166514
It is significantly better than being painted as a druggie abusing substances to get high, in Japan's anti drug society, nonetheless, yes.

Connor is fucking mori RIGHT NOW

>>17166334
>professionalism
Don't really care. I hate dramatroons and twitch "culture" of leeching and connor & crew is only about that crap.
Do you think he wants Mori on twitch because he cares about her or because he's a twitch streamer?

>>17166647
This should be made into a banner

>>17155184
>Should people back the fuck off of expecting her to drop Connor and others because they don't meet their purity test?
Nobody cares if Calli wants to hangout with the TT people on her own time as herself, that's entirely her prerogative to make
People are fed up with her constantly forcing this shit on stream as Calliope Mori and defending a guy who insulted the people who are supposed to be her friends and then she decides to lie about him apologizing to them
Also fuck off with reddit spacing

>>17166560
>I enjoy hololive more but the idea that their identities are really the character and can't talk about anything because they are "seiso" is a joke that became such a big thing in the unicorn circle that they had to mantain it
Do you even watch vtubers?

>>17166707
What professionalism. You are treating this job like its something that isnt based on anonimity. There could be 6 persons behind Mori and you wouldn't even know about it.Do you actually think youtubers and the like have any type of professional requirements? These are images. As a doctor you have such things. As a comedian behind pixels you don't. Thats why she wasn't graduated. Because except for you pixies nobody cares

>>17166905
I do. I just don't care about these stupid policies made by the crazies and were made the norm by them

>>17167010
You obviously don't watch Hololive if you regurgitate the same old "ohh they play a character and Yagoo stands next to each girl with a gun to their head in case they say they're going to take a fat shit instead of tee heeing and skipping off to a idol meeting!"

>>17167099
Its rich coming from persons who not only believe that but actually enforce it. Or maybe you didn't read my post right

>>17161553
It seems like a cuckbeat actually wrotre up a script to spam threads talking about her. That's a level of butthurt I haven't seen since Accelspammer.

>>17166647
Not even that, the fanbase don't want anything to do with anitubers and vapid whores that badmouth the very people they supposedly want to collab with.

>>17167168
I know your just a dumb anti but if you read what it says its pretty obvious its just an antis spam bot.

>>17167209
Stop believing stuff people tell you without checking for yourself. I actually watch the dude and besides that clip in a cotext of getting a job he didn't said anything else about hololive. Its in your head you retard

>>17166961
Professionalism as a member of a company, as someone whose actions don't just affect her own career, but the people around her.
Even then it's immediately obvious that vtubers outside of Hololive do have certain professional requirements, and being able to uphold them is what separates the girls who make it from those who give up after a month.

>>17167232
Why would an anti spam these threads until bump limit? They would likely want them to remain afloat. It's likely picking from anti posts because fuck if I know, maybe to mask it.
Also it's "you're".

>>17167209
Whose fanbase?
Hololive's? I could buy that.
Calli's? I think you'd find the waters are much murkier on that then what you're suggesting.

>>17167329
They are anonymous contractors behind a pixel. If i say some stupid shit as a real professional i get fired because people expect me to say pertinent stuff. She is a rando who has to create drama on the internet. The more people give her money the more the company gets paid. Thats the end of it.

>>17167333
Why would antis want to flood with Mori threads posts, a real fucking mystery anon.

>>17167434
Okay, you're baiting. Here's your last you, send me a superchat if you want me to give you another one.

>>17167455
An anti would flood her hugbox general, not a thread discussing her yab.

>>17166117
desu the only part im mad about is that other shmup devs felt the need to respond to touhous popularity by making every boss a floating anime girl in a sphere instead of cool shit like they used to

>>17167475
Actually if you want to be mature about it we couls both conclude that we have no fucking idea of how things are behind the scene. For all we knoe Kson just didn't want to talk about the past and there is no NDA. Also this who thing just makes me think of this https://youtu.be/Z5xWgrxnoDA

>>17167601
It would be pretty realistic if she didn't want to publicly talk shit about a company where a ton of her real life friends work at.

>>17167601
One more pity reply, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. If you had the meanest glimmer of experience with Hololive you would know that what you're saying is wrong. Do your reps.

>>17167806
I don't speak unicorn. Are reps the things you read on vt threads that a schizo posts because he is having a bad day?

>>17155476
>>17153842
also, when people on Reddit called her out on it, her response was "can I please have some fun?", which was not the correct one.

>>17162569
I was talking about his comment on parts of the fan base over reacting.