/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

anyone want to bet on the baitposting vs numbersposting ratio in this thread?

How in the hell did a vspo girl managed to beat bully panda in a collab?

>>17148950
This thread might die before JP prime time so I'd say 70 to 30

>>17148950
Its already starting so Im guessing its only gonna get worse

>>17148914

>>17148973
By being a more entertaining character. Niji is just 3DP streaming with an avatar. VSP at least has the gamer girl theme going for them.

>>17148973
Girl known for being good at FPS vs girl known for playing 90% Nintendo games

So here is the run down on the big reveal last thread and all the stuff we figured out

>>17115246 (Cross-thread)
https://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28d

A link to this blog was posted and the blog is from a supposed chinese Hololive anti. The important think that is relevant to this thread that was posted in this blog is this as highlighted by this anon here >>17115610 (Cross-thread)

>When Coco Kiryu graduated in July '21, HololiveReddit had 10,000-13,000 active users, but now it has at most 3,000-4,000, and the number of posts has dropped dramatically. On 4ch and other international forums, Chinese antagonists continue to engage in negative activities against Hololive and promote Niji EN, so Holo EN is being talked about less and less.
>4ch
>continue to engage in negative activities against Hololive and promote Niji EN

This is basically confirmation, straight from the mouths of one of the zhangs on the front line, that they are still really butt hurt by Hololive leaving China and backing Coco. Even though Coco eventually graduated they are still pissed off and have turned to using their energy to boost NijiEN to get back at Hololive instead. This is confirmation from one of their own that NijiEN shilling is done by zhangs so all the shit posters and catalog spammers that we deal with are most likely zhangs.

This also calls into question the success of Luxiem. Luxiem superchats are primarily from Taiwan which is where mainlanders are using their proxies from so that would support them getting massive Chinese backing. Also the fact that they get massive viewership inclines when streaming during time frames that are good for zhangs. The reason I think this theory might have some backing too it is due to the following

>low superchat debut streams
Compared to what they are getting now the superchat debut streams from Luxiem were modest. This leads me to believe that this was a zhang strategy that was just recently put into action
>low memberships on membership opening streams
Some kind anon hear scraped the chat of Luxiem's membership opening streams and found that they are only getting a little over 1,000 members which is lower than some of the NijiEN girls and much lower than HoloEN council. However, this makes sense when you consider they are getting their boosted by Chinese Hololive antis.

Just wanted to make sure this was out there and made it into the new thread so people can see what we are dealing with. Just stay safe out there and always be on the lookout for zhang infiltrators.

>>17148973
>inb4 vspo schizo comes in and calls this the end of nijisanji

>>17149068
kill yourself

>>17148973
Their audiences overlap and VSPO dominates when it comes to FPS, she’s probably the better POV.

>>17149068
Zhang is bad. Nijizhangji is bad. These are old news, but the newfags are too lazy to do their reps, so keep spoon feeding them, I guess.

>>17149068
Take meds - >>17148955

>>17149068
So from what I gathered during the last thread it seems that a lot of anons are in agreement that Mysta is legit pretty strong and his viewership is what prompted the zhangs to boost the others since they saw the opportunity. After he got his 10k the zhangs swooped in and boosted Vox to 14k for his Sims stream (absurd number) and Ike to 20k for his karaoke stream (even more absurd number).

>>17149068
Not trying to start any timeloops, but if one autistic faggot is willing to drop $250 to make mori seethe so much till retardation, then a group of chink subhumans can certainly do that easily.

>>17149200
Women fucking love The Sims anon, anyone with half a brain knew that stream would do very well

Fuck, its shitposting hours now. Can we sprinkle in some slutposts too to keep the thread entertaining?

>>17149229
Anon, the bugs literally pumped up a jp girl with $100k just to "own" Hololive.

>>17149200
Yesss, we're back to "that's all zhangs fault" routine, let's go!

Man I know it's just some schizo Jap's blog, but the reactions from Luxiemfags getting called zhangs is hilariously close to how the actual bugs react.
Guess SEAfags still haven't figured out how the internet works.

>>17149266
I'll start

>>17149266
Have some clussy, i need a vacation anyways.

If you faggots are seriously going to claim superchats like these were actually sent by CCP nationalists to own Hololive I'm leaving this thread and never coming back

>>17149380
"It's probably bullshit but it's hilarious, so I choose to believe it."

Pack it up /#/ bros
Heres your today gold
https://youtu.be/4ucFQzVTSrE

>>17149380
Leave, anon. Save yourself.

>>17149266
Bring back the horny posting!

>>17149380
Why are you watching chinese content to begin with?

>>17149380
Yes anon they were, all of them. These are the warriors on the front line taking down Hololive. It ain't much, but it's honest work.
>>17149471
Vox can speak Chinese? What's his bilibili link?

>>17149200
>a lot of anons are in agreement
Kill yourself

>>17149544
Aren't they learning chinese to prep for their chinese collabs?

>>17149356
Much obliged, enjoy your break.

>>17149356
Have a nice break.

>>17149709
Why would they need to when the Virtuareals they collab with speak English? Even Selen who's chinese didn't speak any when she collabed with Karon.

>>17149709
pffff

>>17149753
Ah, found the nijinigger.

>>17149068
>zhangs
>Zhangs
>zhangs
>Zhangs
>zhangs
>zhangs
>zhangs
jesas, burgers can't help themselves and talk about their BF all the time
I can't imagine being more delusional than this
>nijiEN is doing good, that must be fake, it must be the zhangs

>>17148549
they're actually expanding, at least for the debut

Watame with Ui is getting today's gold by the way, no I won't elaborate but you know I'm right

>>17149068
>Some kind anon hear scraped the chat of Luxiem's membership opening streams and found that they are only getting a little over 1,000 members which is lower than some of the NijiEN girls and much lower than HoloEN council.
proof next thread?

>>17149303
didn't they pumped and dumped her?

>>17149882
Yes, I am one. Want to point out how the sky is blue next? Or are any posts about Nijisanji banned from this thread, if so I'll eat a ban.

>>17149266
horny post niji girls. I'm a holo-only and I've only seen lulu horny post back on /hlg/.

>>17150069
Watame is mid-tier. She won't bring enough. Aqua apex is a gold contender.

>>17150180
Please do so, I am still waiting for some Lize post. Show some love for the runner-up.

>>17150195
I'd say Rushia Laplus can win gold

>>17150121
>>/vt/thread/S16490697#p16501936

>>/vt/thread/S16490697#p16502427

>>17150180
Holo-only or Niji-only, we can all agree that each model (female or male, whatever youre into) is hot and deserves slutposts. But no males for now please, unless its Mashiro. I dont watch him but traps are great.

>>17150161
Nijiniggers been claiming that they don't post in /#/, and that only shitposters post about niji. And now that it got pointed out that zhangs been pumping them up plenty posts about "hey I'm definitely not zhang!" starts appearing.

>>17150406
I agree, no males allowed. You can use the homos thread for those.

>>17150474
Really makes ya think doesn't it?

>>17150161
Nah, there are just a bunch of paranoid motherfuckers here. Not to say that Zhangs don't pop up from time to time and try to start shit, but they're more likely to be in the catalogue than in /#/.

Didn't realize Moona has quietly garnered a decent following. Honma is now both inferior to her in subs and viewers.

>>17150474
>get called a zhang
>if anon doesn't reply, he is a zhang
>if anon replies that he is not, he is a zhang
seanigger working extra hours!

>>17148973
probably because if you actually watched streams, you would know that sasaki isn't good in valorant while runa is fairly above average. There's a reason the one with better pov in the collab have more viewers funneling to it. Sasaki is only really good with nintendo games.

>>17149068
you people are literally sick of your mind. HAHAHAH holy shit this thread is literally schizo central, not even as a joke, it literally is.

>>17150797
That's not true. Kuzuha is shit in Apex but all the viewers flock to him.

>>17150607
yes, if you read the "proof" of this article >>17149068 you would see that they barely show any relevant information that is actively discussed here, they only read bait threads on the catalog, if they were here or in any other general, they would've written a better article but instead they are basing their opinions on schizo posts

>>17150830
>this thread
One (1) schizo, most likely than not pretending to be a retard and being overwhelmingly being rebuked

>>17150872
also, it's probably regurgitated from a 5ch matome poster, like most of the "drama" that makes their way to jp, the prime example is the recent Mori thing

Pekora ARK:
>32K CCV
>2 hours long
>11k likes
>Only 300k views

Council collab
>17k CCV
>1 hour long
>33k likes
>320k views already

Can someone explain?

>>17150923
people waking up to see council stream

>>17150923
Fyi Pekora had to take down that VOD to edit something out because she was a dummy and may have pasted a password into chat.
Also, gimmick stream > non gimmick stream for VOD views.

>>17150923
Susan enjoys making you seethe.

>>17150923
>Can someone explain?
Pekora VOD is getting culled

>>17150872
the post you linked reads like massive cope
luxiem is popular, both their CCV and SCs reflect that
even within NijiEN, a nijifag's stream absolutely mogged finana, and only rosemi was (barely) above him

>>17150923
VOD is irrelevant and we should only put weight CCV and SC

>>17149068
least schizophrenic number thread poster

>>17150474
Why am I suddenly responsible for those posters? If I thought like you, I'd be calling every single Hololive post in here "cuck" because some schizo guy out in the catalog said that Holofags love being cucked.

>Vtubers BTFO!
Can’t even beat a small indie country parading a couple of their cars

>>17150994
VOD is consistent
CCV is unreliable

>>17150993
I don't understand why they can't get that into their heads, nijisanji has always been getting good SC numbers, specially the males

>>17151018
It's our usually tribalists getting uppity, come the fuck on now, how long have you been in /#/ for. There are like, 3-4 faggots that are so anti-niji that they take any chance they can to shitpost and don't even discuss numbers half the time.

>>17150923
Obviously the 2020 cull, getting worse. Maybe if the cull affected JPs more I'd give a fuck but I don't care about ENshitters.

Is this LARPing? If so you're not doing a very good job at it.

>>17151114
>VOD is consistent
>randomly gives 200k VOD to 10k CCV streams and 50k VOD to 20k CCV streams
>consistent

>>17151108

>>17151234
>Twitch
>Spic
Doubly doesn't count.

>>17149380
It looks like they are catching on on bilibili
https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=Luxiem&from_source=video_tag

And a clip of Mysta acknowledging his Chinese fanbase has ~280k views
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ZY411H7rB?from=search&seid=4389325149425499104

>>17151234
Not even a vtuber or convert, fuck off spic trash.

>>17150923
You probably didn't know that pekora's video got privated after the stream. So you're comparison is dumb.

>council all collab
>not even 20k

>>17151002
Thank you

I thought I calmly laid out my argument based on the available information presented in these threads. While there is no smoking gun that Luxiem is getting boosted by zhangs people have been sentenced to death on less circumstantial evidence. When all the evidence points to a single possibility there is no need for a smoking gun and your personal burden of proof is way too high if you think there needs to be one.

>>17151114
>VOD sometimes shows lower numbers than CCV numbers right after stream
VODs have never been consistent

>>17151357
>based on the available information presented in these threads
“The voices in your head” is not really credible information.

This is also the numbers thread, where “big number > small number” rules.
The whole audience of (let’s say) Tsunderia could suddenly grow to constant 30k CCV streams overnight because somehow the Aussies decided to boost them to spite the Kiwis and it would make no difference, their numbers would be just as impressive.

>>17151270
lmao they really are utilizing zhang bots and nothing else

>>17151503
>Holos boosted by Zhangs and bots
good
>Nijis supported by Zhangs
bad

Not to sound like a schizo but Holos and their friends are so dominant lately.

Its awesome seeing the Luxiem boosting zhangs downplay HoloEN's VOD views. Remember, the zhangs don't want you to think HoloEN is doing well and they are using CCVID as the backbone of their attack against Hololive. Looking at the VOD views after the stream tells you "Hey, this stream must have had more viewers than youtube presented to me" so the zhangs must discredit the VOD views due to this.

>>17151531
>Holos and friends are dominant
>Nijis took gold 2 days in a row
rumao

>>17151531
Jesus fucking christ is that Hajime with 1.5k

>>17151574
2 days in a row? When?

lap zatsu 10k

>>17151581
INCLINING!

>HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!
A new King is born!

>>17151443
retarded newfag

Don't tell me holobronies are schizo'ing on the zhangs because of this
that would be really funny

>>17151613
kek, he must have left before the end of the movie

Speaking of which, anyone have the winners of the day list? Can't find it in previous threads

>zhang this
>zhand that
This has to be a falseflagging china-phobic schizo. Even tin-foiled /qa/fags would cringe of conspiracy overdose.

Easy 10k for Lap.

>>17151707
HOMOS, I KNEEL

>>17151718
zhangs won, everything is zhangs, they are siding with Susan to exclusively cull holoEN and left the homo nijis untouched

>>17151613
Never happened, typical lying nijinigger cuck.

>>17151707
yeah bro, the zhangs dropped 53k burger certificates just to boost them, the voices in my head are telling me, I swear

>>17149068
I'm not Chinese and despise HoloEN so if your grand plan is to try and claim that all people who dump on HoloEN are secret Chinese antis I don't think it's going to work.

We've already had this arc so many times. First it was unnamed schizos, then you found one SEA guy anti'ing Kiara and suddenly all negative comments against her were by SEAniggers, then it's the Zhangs. It's exhausting the number of boogeymen ENfags try to conjure up to try and dismiss people who just think HoloEN is garbage.

>>17151707
This made me wonder how the Lazulight outfit reveals will compare to the Council ones for superchat.

>>17151777
>Nijisanji has never won two golds in a row
Holobrony do your reps

>>17151707
Yes they are. Those peksy zhangs must also be pumping Mori's SC numbers up since she's a Hololive enemy now

Who the hell thought pandering to eops right now is a good idea? Chigusa's numbers are declining. She needs a better manager.

>>17151835
Lazulight outfit reveal will make Coco's Graduation look like chump change

>>17151581
KING

>>17151568
Wait a second, summer Nousagis became Luxiem zhangs now? This is so hard to keep track of, I need a faction map ASAP

>>17151868
>declining
Look at her regular numbers. This is her average.

JWU after 9hrs, skim through archives to see how much commotion there was over 2 massively impacted CCVID EN streams that could barely break waiting rooms today

>2 fucking threads packed to the brim of Niji talk

What went wrong here…

>>17151831
Ok zhang

>dead hours
>schizo shitposting fills the thread

>>17151897
Her regular numbers been slightly down from time to time.

>>17151882
>Gundou is disliked harder than Meiro
KEKK

>>17151898
It's sad man

>>17151898
MALDING Nijizhangs taking up the thread as always, typical SEA hours, especially after their half-chinese princess couldn't get gold yesterday >>17151959

Is this why holobronies are mad? Vox is like one stream away from passing Fauna in SC
>they blame the zhangs
how does it feel that the zhangs have more disposable income than you then?

Nobody fucking likes HoloEN except HoloEN subhumans. Zhangs, SEAs, Nijifags, HoloJPfags, call it however you want, it's HoloEN cucks vs the entire world. Get over it.

>>17152011
they are also getting really close in VOD views despite them having less CCV, it must be the DAMN ZHANGS boosting their views too!

>>17151951
Meiro did nothing wrong

>>17152011
Not our fault Zhangs can fake their own currency at the flick of a finger

>>17152011
They're doing money-no-jutsu

The hell is wrong with this Rion? Her numbers right now is way too low. She usually averages around 1.5k. Is she really reclining?

>>17152049
>They are getting close in VOD views
To Sana and that is it, lol

>>17152079
natural decline

>>17151959
Read the previous thread

>>17152102
All the fujo bait in the world added with the full might of zhangs and they still can't hold a candle to a the worst produce of holoEN. BTFO.

>>17152102
NTA but you are wrong

Vspo is just way too strong right now. They have surely replace the Niji girls as the second strongest box pound-for-pound.

>>17151443
lmao who even believes this? ad rev is based on your vod, it needs to be consistent

>>17152191
Do right comparison faggot,
Nijien = 11 mysta vs Holoen = 11 gura

>>17152191
>filthy clickbait cucks
Get this shit off of the thread

>>17151959
The funny thing too is that council collab statistically was a hit. It had more chat activity than the Kanata 12hr collab that had 40k people, it was gaining like 1k likes every 4 mins, it has amazing vod views alongside the reveal premiere, the only thing that literally doesn’t add up is the 17k ccv when the collab had a 15K FUCKING WAITING ROOM

Meanwhile Gura’s Terraria waiting room had 17k people and she peaks at 18k? With her Vod already being well over 300k in a dual pov???? I don’t know how there’s such little commotion about it. It’s actually pathetic seeing what happened.

>>17152262
anon, stop coping this hard, they are snowballing, first it was the debut buff, now what?

>>17152263
numbers?

>>17152079
She's a female in nijisanji. They are expected to recline.

>>17152288
It's a membership buff, events and all you can eat cuck buffet. Ame just has... apex.

>>17152191
>needs to include Ame's watch alongs and superchat readings
I knew Nijiniggers were desperate but I didn't know they would sink this low.

>>17152329
>Ame just has... apex.
>Ame is the third most watched holoEN
this doesn't make it any better anon

>>17152367
the homo also has SC readings and watchalongs in that pic blindchama

>>17152271
>I don’t know how there’s such little commotion about it.
Just look at the thread - we're not the numbers thread at the moment, we're the tribalist shitposters thread.

Oh, no! Niji bros, Rion is struggling to even clear 1k.

>>17152271
I agree with you 100% and Susan needs to fix this shit. Nijiniggers are getting uppity because they think their views are getting close to HoloEN when they are still very very far off in reality.

>>17152271
Gura has been on a recline for over 6 months now

>>17152271
>It had more chat activity than the Kanata 12hr collab that had 40k people
Huh? No it didn't unless you meant the "average rice per second" then no fucking shit Kanata's was 12 hours long

>>17152402
how? Every post so far has mentioned numbers and stayed within what it entails. Are you angry because it's not your hugbox, Nijinigger?

Nijinigger zhangs are MALDING right now that their Luxiem boosting strategy was exposed.

>>17152470
this month is the first one where she hits 70k monthly subs, still impressive but the pool of viewers is depleting and let's say she's not very good at making them watch streams

>>17152501
The zhang Nijifag anon just wants to deflect seeing the obvious strat is being caught on by us. Unfortunately we'll get to the bottom of their YAB strategies soon enough, then it's all over for them.

>>17152531
I knew it had to be someone extremely retarded to push credit on the zhangs, a Twitchnigger

>>17152396
>the homo also has SC readings and watchalongs in that pic
Please list the SC readings and watchalong, faggot.

It seems like the SEAmonkeys are venting their collective seethe /here/ since it's proven again and again they are a bunch of insignificant little man kek

>>17151531
But you are schizo

>>17152575
Alright, now you're going full schizo and sounding like a Scooby Doo villain while you're at it.

>>17152616
seethe zhangijisanji

>>17152531
>>17152575
THE ZHANGS, THEY ARE COMING
THEY ARE PLANNING EVERYTHING
DON'T LET THEM FOOL YOU, THEY ARE ZHANGS, THEY SEND MONEY TO THE NIJI HOMOS TO MAKE HOLO EN LOOK BAD, OPEN YOUR EYES, IT'S THE ZHANGS
WE ARE INVESTIGATING THEM, WE HAVE THEM, IT'S THE ZHANGS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

i don't even fucking watch nijien or holoen, i watch like a couple of holojps and that's it
so why is this discussion giving me so much anxiety
i think this thread poisoned my brain

>>17151898
Niji pushers got exposed as zhangs so they've been seething all night long

>>17152288
>calls an obvious joke cope
so this is the iq of shitposters in this thread?

I think it's quite clear from the graph that there's an overlap between Holos and Honma.

>>17152634
>unfavorable rrat uncovered
>oh nononono you're going full schizo
kekk, the great firewall won't protect you here

>>17152011
zhang wheelbarrows are literally paid by the CCP kek
an entire national government antiposting against them and council is STILL going strong

Off all the people, it's the seaniggers larping as burgers blaming the zhangs, I guess they fear they take their territory

>muh VODS
>muh SCs by zhangs
Why are ENfags so easy to bait? If you really think its CCVid, there's no need to reply.

>>17152703
That's just Apex, anon

>>17152651
It's SEA hour touristchama. Come back later when the subhumans go to bed to has a civilized discussion

>>17152696
zhangs pushers don't engrish prease understan

I miss all the Mori bait threads already. Please bring them back, I need my peaceful thread again.

Motion to split for numberJP and numberEN/Global?

>>17152720
Kek this

>>17152769
Be the change that you want to be

>>17152715
Yep, I really love Council too. That stream they did today proved how great they get along with each other. Myth will always be the numbers gen and I will always enjoy watching Gura and listening to Mori's music but I enjoy actually watching Council a lot more than Myth these days. All of them are a delight to watch.

>>17152720
This. We Holobros love the Chinese and admire their One China policy after all.

>>17152781
I vote for split. Please do not remove the horny posting for JP side though.

>>17152847
AAAAAAAAAAAAH NOT THE ZHANGS
TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN
hehehehe I just OWNED one zhang, my country must be proud of me

KR scene

>>17152781
>Split
>Thread loses all its character
>both threads die
Fuck no.

>>17152781
Taking away the place to compare
JP/EN numbers cross-branch would be tasteless.

>>17152781
EN gold bros, we are back!

>>17152781
I agree with this NijiJPs are kinda fun with their KINGposting and slips. ENs on both sides are just mentally retarded kids that are easy to bait.

>>17152781
Doesn't work like that when the problem is shitposters. They're not going to just confine themselves to a dedicated shitposting thread, because the goal is to annoy people, not actually discuss things.

>>17152781
Chances that this was posted by a uppity Nijifag trying to sneak in a chance at gold? I'd say very high.

>>17152537
Tomorrow she’s likely hitting her next 10k so while it did drop, it’s not as big a deal as it seems. And honestly every single
Holo has lost 10k off their subs/month. Makes me wonder if that month of culling actually did have an impact on their growth with people less likely to tune in

>>17152781
Just use jap words for the title, that will filter out some retards.

>zhangs name themselves cocksleeves and donates Taiwan money to homos
>all because yagoo took their oshis away

kek I can chinks doing it

>>17153009
>HoloEN is so fucked they will lose to a guy
Is HoloEN really that bad even with Gura the most subbed vtuber?

Ez 16k for Lapchama

>>17153070
Of course not. Nijifags will absolutely take advandage to spam their faggots on a ENgold thread though. Did you not observe this thread when they have "good" numbers?

>>17153123
You should stop using the word "good" when talking about their numbers. You should start using the word "boosted".

>>17153123
That's they should have a containment thread for themselves.

>>17153092
Lost in the frenzy of this zhang conspiracy getting uncovered is that HoloJP has been crushing NijiJP for a solid 6 months how. Basically the last time NijiJP was relevant was during their baseball shit.

>>17152781
You think that would save you, that would just result in the shitposters moving between threads whenever one starts moving faster than the other.
The only hope is to cause more yabs and hope the dramafags and shitposters flock to those instead.

>>17153068
NOT THE ZHANGS AGAIN!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
THE ZHANGS
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hehehehe that SHOWED THEM hehehe
they should take care of their money, I'm worried

>>17152781
Absolutely, but it won't work because ENtards are here to ruin the threads, not discuss numbers. They'd just come right back.

>>17153123
>We get to filter obnoxious ENfags to another thread
I don't see any negative here anon

>>17153123
To be fair not even the HoloJP fans here are all that fond of the HoloEN niggers trying to ride JPs coattails and claim JP golds as their own while EN continues to recline. The strangest thing about these threads is that it's the EN fags who seem to hate Niji the most when 99% of the ENfags weren't even around when the Nijifags were reporting Hololive streams for playing games without permissions and causing the Holocaust.

>>17152781
>post anything that doesn't look favorable to holoEN
>ZHANG ZHANG ZHANG

>>17152781
A JP only thread would be MUCH higher quality, you get samurai schizo out and that's a great start.

>>17153200
This

The people shitting on NijiEN are the same people that shit on NijiJP and they will be in both threads. The split would be pointless.

The reason why EN talk is heavy right now is because it is simply a more interesting environment for numbers. From Luxiem to CCVID culling and everything in between. The JP environment has been uncontested Hololive domination for a long time now.

>>17153068
learn english first sea-chama, you can indulge in global politics then

>>17153204
chink cocksleeves are protected from this aids post

>>17153236
>splitting threads will get rid of shitposters!
Never has this worked in the history of 4chan

Towa's numbers has really been strong. I wonder what her current median is.

>>17153218
>>17153236
>>17153243
And this is why the shitposters will just follow you to a dedicated 'jp' numbers thread. So long as it's on /Vt/ you will never be safe, and you can't set one up on /JP/ either. You're never going to be free from them because they probably don't been watch streams, they just want to see (you) and (me) seethe and their idiocy instead of discussing numbers and Susan fuckery in good faith.

>>17153309
NOT THE CHINKS!
THEY ARE LARPING AS FEMALES TO MAKE THE HOLOS LOOK BAD LOLOLOLOLOL
Huh? who told me? the voices in my head of course! also, that post written by the same holo anti that basically re-writes it every year? yeah I DISCOVERED her plan thanks to that!

>>17150923
JP gets heavily VOD culled

>>17153342
and continuing like this is better why?

>Split one of the most popular threads on the board which is the only place that fans of both the big corpos can freely interact with each other for better or worse
Go suck 1000 dicks you double nigger. Get the split talk out of here just because your fee fees are sensitive. This thread is fun and has character.

>JP numberfagging gives us proper analysis of inclines and reclines since they are less culled, exciting number days like Lize vs Pekora yesterday and nijimale kneelposting when they do happen to get gold which is not that rare is fun.
>EN numberfagging gives us endless seething schizos arguing about their 10k peak midgets like it's the end of the universe, nothing but shitposts and making stuff up on the fly.
So who's making the first jap split?

>>17153415
why does it always follow the same pattern of an uptick in shitposting followed by a "we should split" from a new IP

>>17153393
Why does Cover care about VOD views and not CCV then as seen from the leak?

>>17153342
if the FPS thread got kicked out of /jp/ when /vt/ was made, why the fuck do you think /#/ would be allowed there kek

>>17153441
>>>/jp/ホロライブ

>>17153410
It's not, but splitting the threads isn't the answer either. The only way this gets better is if everyone takes some meds, stops indulging so goddamn much in the desire to shitpost the 'other' side all the time, be it EN vs JP, Niji vs Holo, or othewise, and to ignore the samefagging and baitposting.
I'm other words, it's not going to happen while its prime SEA shitposting hours.

>>17153532
It's literally just one seanigger screaming zhang at everything that moves, they must have raped him and has PTSD

>>17153505
The proposal isn't to make it in /JP/, obviously.
It's still a dumb idea that doesn't address the root cause of the shitposts.

>>17153415
Having 2 EN fags who act like Gura is the entirety of HoloEN and continually coping about her middling CCV is not character and has actually gotten very old.

>>17153532
ENtards have no attention span, they'd get bored of trying to shitpost the JP general within a day.

>>17153342
the trick is to never bite the bait honestly

>>17153582
>root cause of the shitposts.
the cause of shitposting is shitposters
shitposters will never go away, do you even know where you are right now? not even just this thread, or board, i mean the entire site. you'd think if there was a solution to lessening shitposts it would have been implemented already.
why do other generals or threads in this board or other boards not get as much shitposting you ask? because they don't respond to bait. you can't enforce this ever, everyone participating has to understand "don't bite bait" and as you can see that is legitimately impossible in /#/

Please just let us have a peaceful thread when the racing starts instead of having EN time loops.

>>17153679
>>17153671
They reply to their own baits, that's the entire point. No one who wants a separate general is biting their timeloop shitposts in the first place.

>>17153730
This. shitposters will at least be distracted by shitposting in the other thread to make one thread good enough

Any event from Niji today?
Holo has Akutan Apex and many collabs surely bring number

>>17153730
Anyone wanting a new general is a retard and absolutely bitting their bait by being aggravated by it.
Just ignore, scroll past and stop talking about taking and talk about numbers

Should we move to /jp/ for a few days numberbros?

>>17152781
zhang getting uppity after being exposed

Watchalong stream for Pekora tonight, probably member only. So count her out from Gold contender today.

Jeez even Amamiya has 10k with yugioh.
Yugioh is doing wonders for. Low and mid tier Nijis.
Tournament coming soon.

Aqua 3.5K waiting 10 minutes before stream my nigguz
Are we bussin' or what?

We lost chartanon and that has been the single biggest blow to these threads.

>>17153809
If you're thinking of doing so you should've already gone back.

>>17153885
Thank Susan for that. He gave up once CCV got fucked.

>>17153885
kek, he was posting not two days ago.

>>17153857
No Pekora stream means that Miko is a serious contender for gold since 35p and Nousagi have so much overlap. What is Miko doing today?

>>17153885
He was here when the schizoloids busy with calli's drama

>>17153857
Tonight schedude is really packed, lots of gold contenders
No wonder number rabbit decides to retreat

>>17152011
Might as well already passed her since they also get donos

>>17153885
He's still around, he just won't bother during prime shitpost hours (for good reason).
Also, since the month has been so fucked due to CCVID, the only way to minimize the effects is to have more data to show the bad streams to the lower end so the medians aren't completely fucked anyways so end of the month recap would be 'less bad', but the data for the month of January really needs a big ol' disclaimer.

>>17153969
Pekora will stream anon but its a members only watch along.

>>17153969
ark again
https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1486271718515941381

>>17154019
>>17153969
I thought she do that on Twitch?

>>17153608
Yeah, then you will just have to deal with Marineschizo, Gen5 schizo, Reddit Duck schizo, Pakora schizo, etc.

Face it, schizos will be schizos whether its EN or JP. The shitposting can be fun if you don't take it too seriously and if you are getting annoyed by it just don't bite the bait and actively try to get an actual numbers discussion started in the thread. A split would just be stupid and would kill our position in /vt/.

>>17153969
Ark again as usual and it will be shit
just go back to minecraft already easy 40k

there are a shit ton of collabs tonight so gold will goes to one of them

Any contender for gold tonight?

>>17154017
The data for every month is fucked for EN in the first place, why even make CCV charts when we know the numbers are shit

>>17153885
Damm, a named anon, in good will, that's rare.
T.newfag

>>17154070
Probably just aqua apex

>>17153857
Aqua is streaming today so she wouldn't be getting gold anyway

>>17154064
Pekora, Nene, and Aqua all created twitch accounts but Miko seems to be the only one who actually takes it seriously. The others streamed once or twice and never touched it again.

Its a shame too since Miko's watch alongs on there are kino as fuck and its a much better environment for watch alongs than youtube. Just another reason why Miko is truly ELITE.

>>17154085
An idea for the fucked up numbers>nothing at all
Also it's Jan so everyone's numbers are fucked.

>>17153315
Even with CCVid going on her median is over 7k this month and her average at like 10k+. All her VODs clear 100k with ease too, last time it didn't was the 12 person marika collab before the tournament 20 days ago.

Anyone have HoloPro or just HL SC data before playboard starts tracking (before Oct 2020)? Need monthly totals by streamer. For Cover financial statements spreadsheet dive.

>>17154150
Except JP got unfucked while EN is still fucked and has been since Dec 2020, the only reason to make a CCV chart is if you just want to wank off JP because you're a tribalist faggot

>>17154127
didn't Aqua have hers for a long time and streamed lol on it?
also i think i saw Watame also have fun but she hasn't streamed at all on it
and then there is Moris that she used to donate to conor...

>>17154293
JP still is culled by all the oversea viewers that watch

>>17154293
EN wasn't fucked at first and everyone was fucked during Dec 2020

What's a medley mix?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTeMv4jydEw&t=19s

https://youtu.be/BTeMv4jydEw

>>17154497
A whole bunch of songs that transition between each other smoothly.

>>17154497
>>17154520
By IOSYS. Guess touhou will always be with us.

>>17154497
Anon, don't tell me you haven't heard this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jARrt0i_dUY

>>17153809
Do you really want to deal with the Mori skitzos instead?

Aqua room numbers, she is streaming on her 2 PC setup, so a slight increase in quality should be expected (mostly in framerate because YT is still dogshit at compressing stuff that moves)
I say 25k based on the wait room numbers

>>17154497
>>17154518
I feel like Hololive's ability to produce original music while keeping it in house is going to pay off big for them one day. I much prefer this to the strategy of signing their talents to separate record labels like Nijisanji does.

>>17154637
30k minimum

>>17154559
>>17154520
Oh it's like that. In the past, I've heard them, I just didn't know the term "Medley".

>>17154497
an actual good way of promoting orisongs, nice

>>17154559
>95k views
>10 years ago
You could have gone for The Beatles Abbey Road medley as a Numbers example, but sure, that works.

>>17154665
Yeah, it's probably the smartest thing Cover has done. Sucks to be Sora.

Aqua delayed her stream by 15 minutes

>>17154637
I call 40k peak guaranted gold

choco 15k get
aqua delay for another 15min, will overlap with iroha la+, rip samurai wife number

>>17154716
I don't have the NND link at hand and it's a classic

>>17154754
Samurai is strong, I believe in her

>>17154637
I can see this stream passing 30k with APEX no longer being in the shitter. And assuming no surprises on Nijis side this is honestly Aqua's gold to lose.

Gold Contender for Holo
Aqua Apex
Miko Ark
Shion Return from Break

>>17154754
Aqua...
You didn't have issues getting this set up on the weekend with one PC, but I guess it's been a while since she's done the 2pc setup I guess.

>>17154559
Listening to this takes me back. I've remembered some of the openings including ones that I've forgotten. Gosick was such a nice anime.

>>17154204
Miraclexyz

>>17154665
I've always thought that they really should put more money into their music deparment and has an in-house Music Studio/label. With their connection, they can build something akin to Kamitsubaki Studio with partnership with a bunch of vocalo-p and indie artist/producers/song writters.

>>17154721
Sora is probably why they decided to go this way. More freedom for both the talents and the agency.

>>17154808
risu unarchived karaoke might get ID gold!

>>17154808
>Shion Return from Break
yeah for pokemon tourney

>>17154721
>>17154880
Can they just cut ties already and handle Sora by themselves?

Council's genderbend VOD is almost beating Luxiem's highest viewed VOD (363k vs Ike's 370k+ Karaoke)

>>17149074
>Just because there are frogs falling from the sky that doesn't mean god is mad at us you schizo

>>17154754
Aqua 10k waiting
Iroha 3k waiting
hope samurai could pull 10k with hololive error

>>17154948
It's probably people replaying Kronos "nigga".

>>17154940
Maybe after Azki goes to Hololive. Cover can become their own music label now or can legitimize a VSinger branch later with Azki as gen 0 and Irys as gen 1 so that they could compete with Kamitsubaki

>>17154948
Out of all the streams, these 2 are probably the worst to compare, since they both generated a lot of interest and people are checking out the vod way more than for normal streams.

>>17154993
They should keep the name INNK and add Suisei and Sora as well

>>17154887
Is Risu really giving us two karaoke streams in a week after blue balling us for over a year? That damn bratty squirrel!!

>>17155072
Nope, she is giving up 2 solo and one with Moona.

>>17154993
>>17155064
>A singing troupe with AZKi, IRyS, Suisei, and Sora
I absolutely LOVE this idea

>>17154948
why are comparing those videos? I'm sure anyone from council sans sana has atleast one 370k+ vod

>>17154940
No idea what contracts they have with Sora's label but probably not.

>>17155056
>>17155200
Genderbent Council almost beating Luxiem's highest VOD video

>>17154993
Man.. if they really go all out in the music department Azki's currently involved with and turn it into a whole label it would be really kino. Especially if they put Azki in charge for scouts or things talent related since she knows a lot of kino vsingers.
>>17155064
Nah.. INNK is a ded name, plaster another Holo something in it

Choco 20k get

>>17155229
So turn Azki into a daisempai for the vsingers

>>17154497
>>17154518
Tf? This aint no medly mix. This1 looks more like that weekly ranking stuff.
Man...

>>17155227
are you tracking potential starEN interest? It doesn't work like that anon since we know genderbent council is just a gimmick

>>17155072
She just needed Moona back to give her some rape correction.

>>17155260
Is it really a Suba-Choco-Luna collab without Luna's Nanora though?

>>17155260
SENSEI!

>>17155308
Nah, nope. Just saying council could beat Luxiem at their own game kek. Too bad ministry graduated.

>>17155200
>videos over 370k

>Kronii
16
>Fauna
12
>Baelz
11
>Mumei
9
>Sana
1

Hololive error is such a huge debuff. Iroha + Laplus is easily 20k

>>17155344
Its just an excuse to make new costumes and merch

>>17155341
Sana.....

>>17155344
Is this actually the final version? Or just a beta?

>>17155340
kek that's a retard comparison but you do you

>>17155341
Sana's only 370k+ vod is her debut. It doesn't count

>>17155396
Should be early access demo version.

>>17155396
Just a demo. It's very short and basic.

>Holo 50k not even primetime

>>17155341
For the lulz

>Gura
269

It's incredibly how high Choco can fly unassisted! OK, there is Luna to give her a little boost but other than that, Choco Sensei is just too strong!

Aqua 20k straight from the waiting room recovery. Gold candidate?

>>17152066
and burgers can't?

Holos are just way too strong. Nijis need their males in order to compete. Their females declined so hard it's not even funny.

>>17155697
That is a total curb stomping if I ever saw one.

>>17155546
Gura's bar should be stream with 3 mil VOD to compensate for her dead subs

So
>Gura
1

>>17155460
>>17155519
Thank god

>>17155697
Towel...
Return to the box for your 10k.

>>17155697
Manjisansji doko...the numbers....

>>17155733
Gura is actually on par with Sana rumao

>>17155546
>>17155577
>>17155672
>>17155697
>>17155727
>>17155733
>>17155746
>>17155740
>>17155770
Fucking samefagg subhuman

>>17155697
>Amamya 10k
Holy god

>>17155783
Anon...your cooldown reps...

>>17155802
That says 9,397. 10k is a very big milestone that gets you on the end of day list. Stop trying to prop up your Nijiniggers.

Oh yeah, anyone knows the artists for Council gender-bent characters except for Pako? The designs looked good, so I'd expect him/her to be designing for StarsEN rather than using the same artists from StarsJP. It scratched that itch for hot male characters, but doesn't have that fujo aspect.

>>17155849
Sana - Pako https://twitter.com/pakosun
Fauna - Misa https://twitter.com/misa_10091
Kronii -sakashima https://twitter.com/sksm35_d
Mumei - 1031 https://twitter.com/creepyday_
Bae - sakashima https://twitter.com/sksm35_d

Oh god, Onyan with the easy 30k.

Akua 30k get. I kneel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>31K!!!

>>17155879
kek sakashima's art was top tier. Misa is a kuzuha fangirl. 1031 is a sutopuri fangirl.

First fubuki with pokemon now akua with apex lol. Nijisis where the next 3d debut, event and tourney???????

HOLY SHIT! It's been a long time since I saw such a straight line out of the waiting room recovery.

She must have *opened* with 30k

>>17155838

>>17155879
Did no one want to make fanart for Sana rumao

35k

>>17156012
pretty sure sana got the fastest full fan art
https://twitter.com/Shinki_art/status/1486112382627860483?s=20

>>17155879
I feel like StarsEN could totally tapped into the Shota Market, only if they can find someone who could play them. Other than that, older male characters are seen as Hot too. I'd advice Cover to get one or two characters that separates themselves from Luxiem

>>17156012
Knowing how Pako is he probably quickly volunteered to do it. I don't know if you have been following him on twitter but he is a massive Hololive booster. He doesn't just tweet out Sana stuff either and is constantly tweeting out and watching HololiveEN streams.

Kind of makes me mad that he got stuck with Sana that never streams since he is so engaged in the greater Hololive ecosystem and is very enthusiastic about it.

>>17155962
This was after delaying her stream by 30+ minutes too, I don't want the fuckers who pull THAT excuse out as the reason for why waiting room recovery is fucked.

>>17156065
Fuck I clicked why, why does it has 1k likes. why

>>17156068
plus ikeman characters often attract the most annoying fanbase.

38.5k

THE NIJIKILLER IS BACK

>>17155962
aaaand she lost. Fuck!

>>17156068
The only way I will watch a male vtuber is if they create a legit dude bro character that plays Madden, NBA 2K, and MLB: The Show.

>>17156068
You need a real boy streamer or a girl for that to work.

Aqua is too strong for the Nijis right now. Kuzuha stole her audience when she did her idol reps but now she's taking it back.

>>17155740
Towa playing this game up against aqua apex would net her similar numbers even if her teammates were hololive members.

>>17156175
not only that, but she has a concert in less than 2 days

i love how this thread gives nicknames to chuubas.

>>17156065
fuck me that would destroy Uranus

>>17156191
Not if she plays with Laplus sucking her cock all game,

>>17156065
FUCKING KEK

>>17156175
is this equivalent to fbk pokemon arc?

>>17156194
>Niji concert canceled
>Aqua continues
>Aqua for the win
Sasuga Nijikiller

>>17156195
newfag

>>17156065
3 hours it took apparently.
https://twitter.com/Shinki_art/status/1486125249926213632

>>17156111
seeing all those San's threads popup here, shota might be the worst

I wonder if Pekora will ever stream less in the future, right now she still stream everyday, basically using quantity to beat others.
Focusing on having a really big number only once in a while is a valid strats too right?

>>17149068
this + all the stuff hlg/hlgg found out about marineschiz/homospamschizo/anticouncilschizo being a nijinigger zhang imigrant with always changing VPNs

>>17156068
>shota
those are traditionally voiced by a woman though. Although it will pacify unicorns if the roommate is a woman even if the character is male

>>17156280
Is her name Nakiri Ayame? No? Yeah better not risk that then

How can we beat Apex, genchinkbros... even our princess can't do it...

>>17156239
this is stronger imo, she can pull this off every season (until Apex really dies)

>>17156283
Wouldn't be surprised if there is a ton of overlap with these faggot schizos.

>>17156163
Ngl The Ministry was ironically gave out more of a bro vibe than the whole luxiem

>>17156287
I mean, Cover didn'f forbid a female playing a male character. It's like Sutopuri.

>>17156280
she is aiming for total watch time
so streaming as much as possible is still the way to go

>>17156280
Risky move. One wrong turn and you could get forgotten like Kizuna Ai. I rather she streams daily because you have a chance to garner newblood instead of trusting the loyalty of existing fandom.

>>17156287
>>17156344
HolostarsEn will have 5 girls

>>17156333
>overlap with these faggot schizos
aaaaaaa My fucking side kek

>>17156163
Imagine a dude bro vtuber who pulls Fifa packs. You want the spic audience THAT is how you get it.

>>17156296
No not to that extend, I just did some thread reading and stumbled upon a discussion about how Pekora stream so much only to be just a bit ahead of others and even then she still about to get surpassed by other Holo who stream less
Make me wonder if what she is doing is smart or not

>>17156258
San attracts /ss/ yumejos, fujos and pedo faggots

>anon calls out our regular schizo for being a zhang
>thread is suddenly full of angry esls

>>17156383
Don't give nijiEN ideas. They're lurking.

>>17156375
That would be really clever

>>17156355
What the fuck does total watchtime do anyway? Why would anyone go for that number? Its only purpose is to climb the top streamer chart

Apexfags tapping out everytime a round is over really triggered me

>>17156421

>>17156343
Well that isn't hard since Luxiem is just homosexual fujo bait. If Ministry was real I would watch them. They were legit cool and not gay at all.

Where did all these esl come from. That guy even used a comma wrong.

Even Roboco is getting great numbers on a heavily contested time slot.

>>17156448
Top streamer means better visibility. Don't question the grind.

>>17156405
>did some thread reading
anon, you might be retarded.

>>17156466
Yeah their banter was legit funny af and i can finally tolerate sana for once

>>17156499
>Roboco almost 7k viewers
Is this her time to incline?

>>17156499
God I hope so. She's stacking buffs, 800k subs celebration, totsu and announcement.

>>17156517
I know how stupid that sound but I just wanted to see what other people think about my Pekora

>>17156551
It's a totsu

>>17156556
I am actually studying this game to find out the ultimate strats: Getting good number while at the same time keeping the stress in check

>37k
CMON GET THAT 40k ONYON

>>17156448
Of course not you dummy. Watch time is a metric that normalizes the quantity vs quality style of streaming. Good content should give you good viewership but its difficult to make vs a generic content which is easy to do but gives lesser views.

>>17156558
Might be the wrong place to ask for opinions then.

>graah I hate holoen let me openly seethe
>all nijien numbers are zhangs out to get hololive
My god this thread is worse than usual. Soon there will be no place to discuss numbers and stuff like documenting CCVid will never happen again

man, not even gozaru and lap can make that game get good numbers, what the fuck was cover thinking

>>17156653

>>17156557
Please to let the announcement be selling goods. At least let her be in a group like Choco for merch. I don't want my robot wife to be sad.

>>17156239
Yeah. Like I said, each Holo just need to find their own game, their own niche and they will automatically get good number from it.