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17022972 No.17022972 [Reply] [Original]

Deadbeats, how do we save Mori from the TT faggots? I don't want to lose her.

>> No.17023025 [DELETED] 

>>17022972
send her some pics of connor's estranged son he doesn't know exists yet from his jbw journeys in japan

>> No.17023032

>>17022972
They are her friend so basically impossible to save

>> No.17023043

>>17023025
>jbw journeys in japan
kek'd

>> No.17023074
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>>17022972
>She stars to put more effort in streaming
>Warm up to her
>Hey Mori isn't bad at all
>Sub
>Follow on twitt
>Shit happens
>It keeps getting worse

>> No.17023122

>>17022972
>ban all collabs, holos included
>ban posting on plebbit
>ban her twitter posting
It's obvious her worst enemy is herself and her own actions. This whole thing was self inflicted. Thinking before doing not even once.

>> No.17023130

one would assume a rapper would have thicker skin

>> No.17023135

>>17023074
Similar. Used to hate her, thought she improved as a streamer, she goes full retard.
Bitch needs to learn to pick her battles, and to appeal to the majority of the retarded manchildren in the Holo fanbase

>> No.17023265

>>17022972
>how do we save Mori from the TT faggots?
Even the weakest criticism of that clique was met with full-tilt denial, lies and pants-shitting autistic rage.
We can't save her. It's over. The dream is dead.

>> No.17023324

Graduate her
This place is going to be insufferable for the next month and more because of her

>> No.17023463

>>17022972
too late bud
she chose her fate

>> No.17023494

>>17023130
She's not a rapper, she's a sheltered theater kid pretending to be one

>> No.17023543

>>17023494
That's what most rappers are though
Others are retards that got shot

>> No.17023558

>>17023135
Dumbass literally lets trolls get under her skin

>> No.17027302

>>17023494
she should stop trying to front then.

>> No.17027370

You guys keep pushing and she's going to straight up leave and join Nijisanji. Anycolor would jump at the chance to have the second most subbed VTuber in the world. Stop fucking pushing unless you want Hololive to flop and Nijisanji to win.

>> No.17027407

>>17022972
She's a horse with a broken leg.

>> No.17027425

>>17027370
way to blurt it out jackass

>> No.17027592

>>17022972
>I don't want to lose her.
It's too late anon, just give up. I knew there was no hope when she did the second tt podcast.

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>>17022972
At the and of the day, after countless Deadbeat troll post, genuine question like this still brrak my heart because i honestly didnt have the answer for your question, and i KNOW that you are genuinely want to help here, but i dont know man, it maybe too late already, it already been more than 1 years. She is not a green horns anymore, she is a senpai with kouhai now, but after all that time, THIS, is how she handle the situation? I dont see any future, anonchama...im sorry. Here, have a picture of Deadbeat getting cucked instead, this is all i can gave you.

>> No.17028101

Hello frens, i do not watch much Holo EN so
could one of you be able to give me a TLDR of what Mori did wrong?

>> No.17028124

>>17028101
no, and the pasta someone'll link is full of lies and biased presentation

>> No.17028263

>>17023130
rappers traditionally don't have thick skin don't they
judging from all the shootings.. "beefs"... what have you

>> No.17028299

>>17028101
she went full retard and fed the trolls

>> No.17028380
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17028380

Connur and Mori rn

>> No.17028903

>>17028101
The drama has been brewing for months but
>Mori is a huge simp for male ecelebs
>Defends male eceleb that shat on hololive
then this pic happens >>17027716
>actually replying to a week old anti post thinking she's being clever
>tries to excuse actions on r*ddit with ''can't I have some fun?''
>runs damage control on twitter with ''sorry guys, I was on drugs lol''
>doubles back and claims she didn't know lean was a drug
A Texan rapper not knowing what lean is comes off as a blatant lie. It's like Ina telling us she doesn't know what kimchi is or Kiara pretending not to know who that sharply dressed fellow with the funny mustache is.

>> No.17028992

>>17028903
truth be told she's such a fucking dork i can definitely see her knowing the word lean from rap songs but not knowing what it is

>> No.17029164

>>17028992
>On the rap scene since at least 2013
>From Texas, home of lean
>Doesn't know what it ts lol
I'm really sorry about you deadcuck, I hope you can find a better oshi, she doesn't deserves your support

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>>17029164
I refuse to give her up

>> No.17029702

>>17023494
Sounds like Tupac desu

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>> No.17035850

>>17023130
Rappers have inflated and fragile egos and easily get offended by the slightest of things

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People who say anitubers are cringe just have no perspective on the truly great ones. I watch this guy all the time.

>> No.17036941
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17036941

It's too late

>> No.17036985

you lost her when she commented on the cuckporn comic

>> No.17037003

>>17022972
I just hope the drug charges stick and she's sent back to Texas seething, she's boring as fuck and I'm tired of people who pretend she's not.

>> No.17037030

>>17036941
Cr1ticalfags malding
Connorfags seething.
Now is the time for Vox to get The Brap.

>> No.17037171

>>17029164
also
>says nigga and bruh
yikes....

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>>17022972
Please cuckbeats let it go for your own good. I know you want to keep defending her like a knight but she doesn't even want you...

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17037316

I don't really care for either of them as vtubers, but the Calli x Kiara stuff is cute

If Calli graduates what will happen to Takamori?

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>>17028101
She picked the wrong friends being the TTfags. The funny thing is that the creator of the image sparking the current yab don't even watch EN, that /m/ anon just hated TT because they talked shit about mecha anime

>> No.17037384

>>17037244
Damn didn't know Lunaitos had a manga.

>> No.17037405

>>17037316
Who will tell her?

>> No.17037406

>>17037316
>If Calli graduates what will happen to Takamori?
Kiara 3D model Turk dance standing on a spilled McD cup with purple liquid.
Mori shat on her hard during Takamori.

>> No.17037421

>>17037316
that ship has long been sunk and kiara is all the better for it

>> No.17037429

>>17037325
Why does /m/ produce so many autists?

>> No.17037445 [DELETED] 

What the fuck man. I'm literally sitting here on the verge of tears. Slaving away in this dead end job saving up for the end of the month splash. I was this - close. Maybe I should have done that over time, if I could get her that money earlier I might have been able to convince her in the dono message.
She needs a man that can treat her right, a man like me. I would open the car door for her EVERY TIME, I would pull out her chair at a restaurant, I would lay my twitch hoodie over puddles to protect her from the filth. Connor was the guy who held her hostage in his home with the convenience of COVID. And now again? Did he actually think he fooled anyone? Or am I the only one with a brain? What he did to her was disgusting and this is just Stockholm syndrome at work. Manipulator Connor and abused Mori.
I could have prevented this...

>> No.17037492

Dude i swear you deadbeats are starting to remind me of aqua “we will save you from hololive” chinks

>> No.17037498

>>17037316
>takamori
Oh hey there, my dear fag who only watches clips from 2020, you should watch streams

>> No.17037515

>>17037030
Good. Brining in a male vtuber will produce significantly less drama than those goons.

>> No.17037536

>>17037429
/m/ is the best board on 4chan, easy

>> No.17037541

>>17027370
So Anycolor is gonna have Kizuna Ai?

>> No.17037584 [DELETED] 

>>17023130
the niggers with more bullet holes than rhymes would like to tell you otherwise

>> No.17037807

>>17028101
>tries to epically own trolls
>epically owns herself instead
>reddit and twitter call her out on her stupidity
>"sorry guys i was drunk and high"
That's about it

>> No.17037891

>>17037325
based /m/ chads
it's even funnier there's a Gundam named Unicorn

>> No.17037895

MORI
MORI I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS
LISTEN
It's not too late. There's no shame in getting help, Mori. You can fix this, but you need to let others help you.
Listen, Mori. Alcoholics Anonymous has a branch in Tokyo. They speak English. You don't have to do this alone. We all want you to get better. Just think about it.
https://www.aatokyo.org/
080-4355-2285

>> No.17037940

>>17037807
You forgot
>I thought texas tea was slang for alcohol
I in this case being a rapper from Texas. The sort of I that is intimately acquainted with the texan rapper slang word ''lean.''

>> No.17037955

>>17037807
Missing the part where she gets defensive over being friends with TT trash who dont like hololive while she's in hololive.

>> No.17038010

>>17036941
>Vacation back home
Getting deported

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>>17036941
>>17038010
'old on a moment. If she ''willingly'' leaves Japan, can she even get back? Is deportation rrat the next big thing to paint /vt/ pink?

>> No.17038294

>>17037895
>They speak English.
kek

>> No.17038299
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>has a "friend" who hates her job
>who pretty much implied she herself dont become succesful because of her talent
>gets mad that people dont like him or the fact she's friends with him
>NOOO SHE DINDU NUFFIN U JUST HAET CUZ SHE TALKS WITH A DUDE REEEEE
Seriously, if she was talking with some male vtuber it would be fine, but she choose to talk with someone who shit on her job, and she act like her job is sooooo stressful, what a dumb cunt.
>hurrrr she should cuck her viewers more to make them seeth
People who hate her wont be seething, they would be celebrating, laughing and troll her more as she's gonna took more bait.

>> No.17038340

>>17038010
MISSU CARRIOPE WE SEE YOU ON SECURITY カメラ BUYING COUGH SHIROPU
WE SEARCH MANSION, ONRY FIND SHIROPU BOTERU
YOU TEST NEGATIB FOR SHINGATA CORONAVIRUS
CARE TO EXPRAIN?

>> No.17038355

The most you can do is ask Mori to associate her relationship with TT with her roommate and not the Mori character. Even then, that's probably too much for a dumbass like Mori to handle.

>> No.17038368

>>17027370
Good.

>> No.17038405

>>17022972
The thing is, the latest twitter incident showed that >we have no power to save her, since the only thing we can do is comment her videos, use her # and make art for her, and try to outnumber the negativity, but is HER part to ignore the hate and focus only on the positive, if she doesn't do that, anything we do is useless (anything short of doxxing those fuckers and clubing them at least)

>> No.17038438

>>17023032
>they are her friend
kek, mori must have posted this, only she would be dumb enough to bereive

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17038459

I'm sorry, but did Calli already graduate? Oh, that's right. Her career isn't over yet. In fact, it's only just began. Does having a few yabs and taking a break count as graduating? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you post this when she's still employed by Cover? Calli is writing more hit songs right now and she's been one of the top subscribed Holos for how many months now? She's fighting one of the lamest antis in the fandom who just happens to have a caught her on a bad week. But you know what? He's still just an obsessed incel. Calli is one of the best streamers in history, she's topping the music charts and would be top of her game if Coronavirus hadn't kept her from her family. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Calli is celebrating her Charlie collab and someone brings up this topic. Oh look at that, American viewers just woke up and don't give a shit about the latest rrats, as usual. Are you a guzzling lean? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Mori topics because you're a faggot hater who doesn't like the reaper because she's cool. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll deadbeats on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

>> No.17038485

>>17037536
doesn't /m/ have a schizo mod

>> No.17038535

>>17038340
>Mori stands up to her full height
>The poreesuman doesn't even come up to her navel
>every Japanese person in the room starts to visibly sweat. Poreesuman has tears rolling down his tiny slit eyes.
>''My dude, let me show you how I owned those antis on twitter, epic style.'' Every word comes out slurred because she needed something to lean on for the stressful situation she's put in.
>BBRRRRAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPHHH
>Second Tokyo gas attack incident, January 2022

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>>17038459
Posting in a epic bread

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>>17022972
>how to fix Mori
whenever she is about to do or post anything, she should ask herself: "would Fubuki or Gura do this too?". That should filter out most of her stupidity

>> No.17038560

>>17022972
At some point the codeine habit will save her from being alive.

>> No.17038587

Link your Wish will happen and all of this will banish as if it never happened.

>> No.17038641

>>17038553
>Mori gets crunk, ready to say the dumbest shit imaginable
>hmmm would Gura do this?
Yes?

>> No.17038677

>>17038641
gura doesnt even use twitter for that reason

>> No.17038690

>>17029702
Didn't know Tupac was a middle class white chick

>> No.17038743

>>17038299
People who blame this on toxic idol culture and shit like that are secondaries or Deadbeats trying to deflect.

>> No.17038770

>>17038677
The reason being her past as a drunk streamer, exactly the same bear trap Mori shucked and jived into WITH Gura at her side to offer advice.
If you're dumb you better be lucky. Gong Goblin was, Mori ain't.

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>>17038459

>> No.17038884

>>17038212
In order to obtain permission to depart voluntarily, it must be confirmed by either an Immigration Detention Center Director or a Ministry Auditor that the deportee not only intends to leave Japan as soon as possible, but has the means to do so at their own expense (based on their travel documents, airline tickets, bank balances, etc).
She would still need permission

>> No.17038897

no wonder /v/ fags makes fun of /vt/ mori drama retards imagine being this autistic lmao

>> No.17038931

>ESL
Can anyone tell me the time difference between her TT pd collab and Connor(?) shitting on Holo Vtubers. I believe IronMause told him not to say that

>> No.17038949

I went to sleep after Mori tweeted that she won't do schedules. Did anything else happen afterwards?

>> No.17038978

>>17038690
No, but he was a theater kid and only started trying to be a hard thug after he played one in a movie after his rap career had already taken off. Pretending to be hard is what got him with the crowd that basically got him killed

>> No.17039073

>>17038690
>did shakespeare in school
>joined the young communist party
sounds pretty white and middle class to me

>> No.17039098

>>17038897
I'm not sure outing yourself as a /v/tard was the flex you thought it was going to be. /vt/ is the dregs of /jp/, which itself is the dregs of /a/. Relax.

>>17038931
Ironmouse is unironically a precious, spicy habanero. The TT collab was in bad taste, because they leech off vtubing for views. Connor is leeching off TT, so it's a leech leeching off leeches collabing with Mori (also a leech for her independent ''rap career.''
Take note that Mori is a white weeaboo woman living in Japan, so ''rap career'' is meant as a jab at her.

>> No.17039119

She wants to have fun with more people outside the Hololive echo chamber. Don't blame her since it's boring as hell for anyone with real ambition, talent, or interests.

>> No.17039174

>>17037405
>>17037406
>>17037421
Officially sunk or that they're just not playing into it anymore?

>>17037498
>clips
>stream
My only interaction with Calli and Kiara is fanart, and those don't seem to have dropped it.

>> No.17039261

>>17039174
>Officially sunk or that they're just not playing into it anymore?
Officially sunk BECAUSE they're not playing into it anymore. Kiara, per usual, ran her mouth off about it. Just youtube KIARA END OF TAKAMORI for the clip.

>> No.17039303

>>17039119
Shame she has none of those.

>> No.17039313
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>>17022972
>It's friends with anitubers
>One (actually two) of those guys made misinformed comments about her company and coworkers
>A single member of her channel shows dissatisfaction with her being associated with him
>Tries to damage control for him by saying he apologized to her coworkers
>Someone asks one of her coworkers about it and she says they were never in contact
>Sends a donation to his friend
>Antis start joking she's cucking her fanbase
>Someone sends a cuckold donation to her
>She accepts it and then declares she'll send this kind of donations to anyone being dissed
>Has to retract the statement after being pointed out by YouTube commenters that this could be abused
>Days later replies showing approval to hate art on Twitter depicting her fans getting cucked
>This is taken as confirmation of cuckoldry
>Reddit calls her out
>She asks "why can't she having fun?"
>The subreddit downvotes her making her the first Holomem to achieve such a thing
>Has to later backtrack by deleting her comments
>Announces a break to calm down
>Accidentally makes a reference to drug use in the process and later clarifies she's drunk and that's not what she meant
>At best that makes an uncultured rapper and at worst she ended up admitting to consuming drugs
>DD later announces she's coming back
All of this could've been avoided if Mori just ignored the antis and cuckbeats didn't motivate about trying to own them. Taking a break is the only good thing she's done, now it's just to wait for her next move

>> No.17039562

>>17039098 well desu was there only for the Needy GIrl Overdose so idk lmao Seeing people thinking they got cucked because of this is autistic since it happens as well in the game

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>>17039562
>>17039098

Gee, I wonder why

>> No.17039680

>>17039313
Or not associate with anitubers, adhere to the corporate identity and play her fucking character instead of self inserting her shitty self into this.
Honestly, the way she acts makes her unsuited as a Hololiver. She should've joined VShojo instead.

>> No.17039689

>>17039119
>She wants to have fun with more people outside the Hololive echo chamber.
She literally can do this at any fucking moment, that video with baka gaijin Gigguk's gf/wife is the literal proof of it.[/spoiler] I absolutely don't understand why so many retards, sperged out over went she went to some smoking bar with her or whatever as. Maybe don't do a video like this? This IDK. Many idols have a successfully split private and public lifestyle. Just go out with your leech friends and don't record her at all, so her fans don't sperg lol

>Don't blame her since it's boring as hell for anyone with real ambition, talent, or interests.
She MUST be Mori Calliope when she is supposed to, now read my top post again.

Woah, that wasn't so hard to explain.

>> No.17039745

>>17039689
Well I fucked over my spoiling but whatever.

>> No.17039750 [DELETED] 

>>17039313
Come back stream will be a collab with Connor where she sucks his dick live on stream to own the haters

>> No.17039807

>>17023130
Rap snitches, telling all their business
Sit in the court and be their own star witness

>> No.17039834

>>17022972
It's better for all parties involved if she leaves right away. She already has a relatively large loyal fanbase so if she decides to do her own thing on twitch or switch companies she'd still be able to make a profit, plus she could collab with whoever she likes more easily and she wouldn't have to pretend she likes being a vtuber anymore. This also completely removes the only person trying to get anitubers/retards involved with HoloEN, which greatly reduces the possibility of shitty drama like this in the future.

>> No.17039866

>>17039119
She can just graduate if she doesn't like the "hololive bubble". I'm sure with her "real ambition, talent or interests" she will do even better outside the company she detests, and I'm cheering her on to take the next step in her great career!

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>>17038743
There is no idol culture, woman pretend to be pure maiden voluntary even outside of japan, besides it's actually beneficial for woman to become succesful just by playing pure maiden.

>> No.17039917

>>17023032
she doesn't have good chemistry with any of them save for the sydsnap perhaps. No idea why she went full retard about coner, he doesn't seem to like her very much at all.

>> No.17039987

Mori does not like Hololive. She resents it. I'm not saying she HATES Hololive but Hololive is at its core, in conflict with who Mori believes she is RIGHT NOW. (She may be able to change, but so far she does not want to) How she views herself, it conflicts with her identity, and to a woman who was bullied a LOT growing up, Mori's identity is the most important thing to her and she will ultimately be in conflict with Hololive as long as she has this black and white view of her so called “identity”. There are a few reasons for this.

The first is imposter syndrome. Mori has stated many times that she doesn't believe she belongs there. And she doesn't, but not for the reasons she thinks (I'll get to this later). She feels guilty that she took the spot from her friend who knew about Hololive. She does not think she is deserving of the huge numbers of subs or viewers or the money she gets. And the reason she feels like this is because she feels it’s not her. She is worried that people are only coming for the anime avatar, or the Hololive brand name. From Mori’s perspective, she was grinding for years in obscurity. Then she joined Hololive and boom she’s famous beyond her wildest dreams and makes what she used to in a year, in a single stream.

Now a normal, mature, well-adjusted person would realize that nobody, not a single one, makes it on their own. Everyone is helped by other people or entities. They would realize that fans are there for the anime avatar, the brand name AND the person behind them. That Mori is not false, not fake, that together the anime avatar, the brand name, and the person herself become something that is stronger than the sum of its parts and that they all need each other to be successful. But because Mori is a stupid immature child who probably read Catcher in the Rye once in high school, she thinks that she has to be “herself” only one way 100% of the time or else she’s fake, she’s phony, she’s just fooling people. It doesn’t help that her ex indie rap “friends” accused her of selling out or that her current Trash Taste “friends” have said similar things. She couldn’t hack it as SatanSquares so she sees that as a rejection as who she is as a person. Thus in her mind, “Calliope Mori” is just the anime avatar and the Hololive brand name and that’s what is successful.

This brings me to the second point. Mori will not adjust to Hololive culture right now. And she doesn’t understand parts of it. She actively strains against it, and it’s not just because of her contrarian nature, although she does have one being a petulant kid. It’s because she’s out to prove that the Hololive culture and the anime avatar aren’t “better than she is” so that’s why she resents acting like an anime girl, resents Hololive culture, and wants to talk about e-celebs and Trash Taste because those are the things that she is interested in and not something that “Calliope Mori” would be into. She still cannot accept that “Calliope Mori” is a part of her and that it’s a symbiotic relationship, a gestalt. To her, if she cannot be successful just “as herself” then she’s a failure. This is why she doesn’t want to change, because it would mean that she was wrong, or that the person she’s been up to this point was wrong. Which to her is like death. People can evolve, they can grow, they can change, but Mori thinks she’s done growing, that she’s an adult, and any change now would just be chipping away at her soul. She sees it as a minus, rather than a plus. She feels uncomfortable in her role, she doesn’t like acting like an anime girl, she doesn’t want to do any of the things that Hololive talents normally do because it’s not something she would normally do.

So ultimately Mori’s solution is to try and change her job to be more like her, drag her culture into it, instead of adapting to what culture already exists. And because Mori has all the subtlety of a bag of hammers and chugs stupid bitch juice all the time, what you get are these awkward moments where it just looks like she doesn’t care about Hololive. Which is wrong, she does, but she cares about “being true to herself” even more and since she’s a retard who can’t into nuance, “being true to herself” and “being true to Hololive” aren’t compatible right now in her mind. That’s why she’s not worth supporting right now until she unfucks herself and realizes that she can be Calliope Mori and change herself a little without compromising herself.

>> No.17039992

>>17039750
The funny part is you know she wants to do this and he's the one who's checking the exits now that she's likely all used up.

>> No.17040005

>>17039917
probably because she's too old for him

>> No.17040034

>>17038485
every board has mods

>> No.17040051

>>17039917
They most likely just keep her around and essentially this is just a business relationship.
Mori just is autistic and doesn't understand that they will drop her if she gets her ass cancelled.

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>>17039680
I also hate the anituber faggots, but Mori wanted to double down on this
If she at least had thick skin, she would've gone all the way with it while ignoring the antis and YouTube and Reddit wouldn't shit on her
There's two things I've been saying about this since the beggining: this was gonna be the Connor arc all over again and she would end exactly like Ollie back then; and I think Mori should be more like Gura, who ignores all this social media bullshit
To be honest, I think Mori really wants to be corporate DD
>>17039750
>Add more fuel to the fire
I can see her doing that

>> No.17040089

>>17022972
You know that the only way you lose her is by trying to confine her and limit her more, the opposite of what schizos here suggest? She'll leave and be independent like Coco doing whatever the fuck.

>> No.17040134
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Mori: Earn your success, don't just tweet.
Also Mori: I applied as a joke.
ALSO Mori: Fuck you, you can't tell me what to do.
ALSO ALSO Mori: Don't talk badly about my podcast friends.
ALSO ALSO ALSO Mori: *yabs in a tweet*

Thinking back it's all so funny.

>> No.17040172

>>17039987
>culture already exists
Cultures change. Fuck idol culture.

>> No.17040196

You will never be Japanese.

>> No.17040258

>>17040172
People change too. And Mori is still a kid basically. She doesn't realize that instead of losing a bit of herself, she'd actually be gaining something.

>> No.17040269

私は日本人です。

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>>17039119
Look, it's her fucking JOB, she has things she must do and must not, it's already big no to talk with other vtubers from other companies and she does so with TT on top of that.
If there's a rule saying you must not do this and that, you dont argue like a retard you either sign up contract, its that fucking simple, lefties are not welcomed.

>> No.17040276 [DELETED] 

>>17040172
hey cuckbeats, hololive culture =/= idol culture. And no white western woman who are not even trying to understand or assimilate to the culture of the workplace she's in, has no right to "change" its culture.

>> No.17040287

>>17040089
As long as she cuts ties with her genmates I'm all for it. Good riddance.

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>>17040172
go back to watch your EN 2D Anitubers retard. Culture don't change.

>> No.17040317

>>17040258
>mid twenties
>kid

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>>17040134

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>>17038897
>imagine being this autistic
>he ignores all the drama /v/ caused in the past
Oh sweet summer child

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>>17040337

>> No.17040396

>>17040276
Cope , it has already changed and it will continue to change. Coco changed the culture, HoloEN changed the culture. Vtubers arent guided by "what idol does" but what they want to do as a streamer, what kind of content they want to create.

They can fuck idol shit and puke and fart on stream, make spooky videos and laser their crotch .

>> No.17040422

>>17040317
Yes. Unironically. Growing older does not necessarily mean you mature automatically. In Mori's case, she still acts like a stupid teenager.

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>>17040396
have some lean tranny.

>> No.17040468

>>17040370
The absolute state

>> No.17040484

>>17022972
Give her more cough syrup

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>>17040468

>> No.17040492

The anitubers are bigger than her and inclining. She needs to leech.

>> No.17040496

>>17040370
lmfao

>> No.17040504

>>17040273
>lefties are not welcomed.
there are literally only lefties vtubing. Also have you considered that things you mention are not in the contract?

>> No.17040506

>>17023074
My experience. It's saddening to say the least. She was improving so much... but she had to befriend grifters and shill retarded western streamers 24/7.
Kiara would kill to be able to be in Japan to collab with all the holo girls yet Mori is the one who can but waste it on TT, Conner and the rest of the twitch weirdos.

>> No.17040519

>>17040269
決して日本人ではないでしょう。

>> No.17040522

>>17040317
Most people seem to be immature until their late twenties.
The main problem is they never correct their behaviour, claim to be adults and think they can act however they want.
They think being an adult means they have absolute freedom as long as they adhere to laws.

>> No.17040539

>>17040273
Who's making these "rules," you? I'm sorry, but you can't just have a certain preference for vtubers and say they all need to be like that. Vtubers have genres just like anime or manga. There shouldn't be only a single genre because then nothing new and interesting can happen.

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>>17039119

>> No.17040578

>>17038299
don't see anyone trying to ban mentioning Rika from holostars which she collab with.
almost like the problem is the british fag. god i hope someone kicks his teeth in

>> No.17040581

>>17039987
based post that is worth its length

>> No.17040584

>>17040370
Lean IS zoommerspeak. What negrosity.

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>>17040539
no, nigger, there won't be any vtuber catering to your preferences or you understand it and embrace it or you can just fuck off to vshojo or any shitty leftoid coperoom for your tranny tastes.

also *siips*

>> No.17040668

>>17040337
I was laughing my fucking ass off midnight reading the replies to that tweet. Black people were dogpiling him for saying "Rapper Speak"
As an ESL I have to ask, how much does rap have to do with ethnicity in the US?
>>17040370
Yeah, they also hate her music and couldn't expect less from a white woman

>> No.17040713 [DELETED] 

>>17040584
It's niggerspeak, it is probably true that zoomers were the first generation of whites to adopt it but Calli is that zoomer. That is the culture she pretends to represent, she even comes from the same place as lean.

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>>17040594
Nah, chud. There won't be any vtubers left for you. Save yourself the heartache and end your life now. You'll die happier now then when we've taken over every last hobby you have.

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>cuck janny defending his fair maiden
Kek, what a pathetic loser. And get this, he does it for free.

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the male vtuber that destroyed HoloEN with a single comment...
I kneel...

>> No.17040795

>>17040775
Sad!

>> No.17040845

>>17040668
Rap is like basketball, whites are allowed to get involved but only if they know their place as subservient to the black man.

>> No.17040898 [DELETED] 

>>17040845
What the fuck does basketball have to do with niggers? Is it like spics and soccer?

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>>17040504
>Also have you considered that things you mention are not in the contract?
I dont know what their contract is, but if they cant talk collab with others without approval then you can assume it's part of contract.
And them being lefties dont matter to me as long as they dont show it or being retarded about it.
>>17040539
>Who's making these "rules," you?
The company, the employers, those who has money.
>certain preference
Its not a preference, it's how it is since the day one, you cant expect two people from rival companies to have an open chit chat, it's common sense.
>Vtubers have genres just like anime or manga
Okay now you just being retarded, vtubers arent genres...they are streamers with defined audiences for whom they are being created for, if you dont like it you can literally fuck off elsewhere, its that simple.
>There shouldn't be only a single genre because then nothing new and interesting can happen.
Nobody cares what you want pal, there's audiences for it and they pay money, it's real simple.

>> No.17040929

Can management even save Calli? They can lock down Calli's socials and restrict Calli from collaborating outside of Hololive, including Holostars collab ban. Calli also gave her antis ammo to shitpost her chat and social comments to death. So Calli might be forced to restrict chat to members/subs only on YouTube and Twitch.

>> No.17040939

>>17040845
anon, your top selling rap artists ethnicity reps…

>> No.17040967

>>17040775
Contemplate!
He performs menial labor, for zero compensation!

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Enough of this. Leave Mori alone.

>> No.17040992

>>17040899
>The company, the employers, those who has money.
They never made such rules. Stop LARPing, you cringelord.

>> No.17041002

>>17040939
Eminem is literally terrified to say nigger or faggot and raps about Drumpf. He knows his place.

>> No.17041062

>>17041002
He still says faggot. I think he only said nigger in a very old rap he made when he wasn't remotely close to making it big and he was pissed off that some black chick dumped him.

>> No.17041068

>>17040845
Rap itself isn't a predominantly Black thing anymore. It's been co-opted by everyone nowadays, it's basically the new Pop/rock in terms of popularity. Hell most of the people that you'll even see in rap concerts are white people.

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>>17040992
If they didnt, then none of this would happend.
>They never made such rules.
Prove it.

>> No.17041078

>>17041002
but he's said faggot many times. he basically called Tyler one a couple of albums ago.

>> No.17041077

>>17040929
Management doesn't give a fuck about what she does because her fans will gargle down whoever's semen she spits out next. The conspiracy that they suspended her is retarded. They have likely never said a single critical thing to her.

>> No.17041108

>>17023324
>This place is going to be insufferable for the next month and more because of her
Good. Fuck /vt/.

>> No.17041115

>>17040899
>if you dont like it you can literally fuck off elsewhere
This is literally what you tell yourself and all schizos who are talking bout what and how vtubers should stream.

If they can do it, if they wana do it, if they get the viewers, if management is okay with it, then they can stream just like vshojo and you can fuck off elsewhere if you dont like it.

>> No.17041152

>>17022972
You can't save someone who doesn't want to help themselves.

>> No.17041161

>>17041077
When will management start paying attention? When Calli starts losing subscribers?

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>>17041073
My dick is 2ft long and it was inside ur mam last night
Prove me wrong, bitch.

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>>17039313
>>DD later announces she's coming back
>It's real
I'm so fucking tired of this. DD ain't gonna do shit to help her and I'm sick of her pretending it will. If she drops a new track it'll be flooded with Mori fans. Her imposter syndrome will never improve, because ultimately her time in Hololive is responsible for a huge bulk of the fans that are loyal to her. Is that unfair? Yeah, kinda, but that's art for you. EVERY person with an artistic pursuit has to make this judgement call between money and expression, and NONE of them make it without somebody with fat stacks backing them up or somebody with huge clout giving them exposure.
Retreating back to being indie is not going to solve her issues. It's not going to repair her "friendships" with hollow assclowns annoyed at her for getting an artist's wet dream of a lucky break. It's not going to make her look cooler to other content creators and it's not going to mend the rifts she's creating with her fanbase. It's just baseless "this is hard so I'll run away" mentality. A coward's tactic.

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>>17022972
HUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAGGGH I CAN'T GIVE HER UP
Why the fuck is she going on hiatus?? how hard is it to apologize?

>> No.17041199

>>17028101
She did nothing wrong.

>> No.17041208

>>17041062
>>17041078
Pretty sure he censored faggot a few years ago in his album because of backlash. I don't actually keep up with his new material. He was fun twenty years ago but either way, he has always known his place. All these other white people are the same, if they accidentally sing along with the lyrics or say anything the masters don't like they get fucking lynched. Eminem was a white guy wanting to be a black guy, his friends were black, his mentor was black, the people on his label were black. He even rapped about how if he was black he woulda sold half, so he was always into acknowledging his white guilt.

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>>17037584

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All the lonely schizos~
Where do they all come from~?
All the lonely schizos~
Where do they all belong~?

>> No.17041248

>>17041199
then me biting your low tier bait is also not wrong.

>> No.17041271

>>17041073
First, you need to prove that the rules the you claim do exist.

>> No.17041286

>>17041177
The retarded thing is she doesn't have to make a call between money and expression. At least as not as drastic as she thinks it is. But because she's an immature retard, she thinks DD is her only true self and that Calliope Mori is just some sellout anime girl. She should embrace Mori as a different side of herself, rather than a different person entirely.

>> No.17041311

>>17039987
based psychoanalysis anon.

>> No.17041318

Unironically, the only ones can save her are their genmate and.. Connor itself.
But I doubt they really care...

>> No.17041338

>>17040522
Mori stated herself that she wanted to be more mature and learn from the Twitter yab. She's not resistant to changing herself at all.

>> No.17041353

>>17040005
Connor has gone on record multiple times saying how much he likes milfs. If anything its because she's an autistic spaz

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>>17041163
>Prove me wrong, bitch.
So you have no proofs and not even basic logic, sasuga.
Vtubers has rules and its a fact, what rules are we dont know, but like I said you can assume what kind of rules out there by how they generally act.
And even if we leave the rules, there's audience and people, if you piss off those people your career is over, trying to piss off them is shooting yourself in the foot.

>> No.17041410

>>17023494
THIS.
She is super pretending about how hard she ahd it.

>> No.17041430

>>17040898
It's a core part of their culture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-vlqbl9KU

>> No.17041434

>>17041286
Right. It's ironic that we're witnessing this level of self-loathing from the same person that was telling people "make content if you want to be a content creator" and "2 million skeletons didn't hit subscribe for satire", asserting her own value as herself AND Calliope Mori in conjunction.
Then again, the hardest person to convince is always yourself.

>> No.17041435

Sasuga...

>> No.17041456

>>17040317
Why'd you type the same thing twice?

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>>17027370
>You guys keep pushing and she's going to straight up leave and join Nijisanji.
How about a trade? Mori for Selen. Nijifans are used to the cucking so it should be a win-win for both parties.

>> No.17041477

>>17040005
They're the same age.

>> No.17041487

How does anyone use this board without going insane?

>> No.17041496

>>17039987
This anon gets it. Based.

>> No.17041499

>>17038978
How fitting that this pretty much is what's going on with devilcube's roomie.
Guess she is Tupac after all.

>> No.17041500

>>17040317
Every woman is a kid until she hits 60.

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>>17041271
I dont need to prove it, I can assume they exist, because every company has rules, hololive is no exeption, what rules no one knows, but you on other hand cannot tell me they dont exist at all.

>> No.17041519

>>17041434
It's not self loathing because she doesn't view Calliope Mori as herself. To her, Calliope Mori is a job and it stops the moment she's off screen. She thinks that if she embraces Calliope Mori, she will lose a part of herself when in reality she will gain a new piece. But that is beyond her comprehension right now. She's super sure of her identity and being an anime girl vtuber isn't part of it.

>> No.17041533 [DELETED] 

>>17041487
They don't. The board is moderated by literal schizo trannies.

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>>17041376
Anon the point is that you're retarded and logically imparied.
You cannot ask for them to prove your faulty statement wrong, that's the God argument. You're supposed to provide proof yourself.
But if what you say is right PURELY because no one can disprove the voices inside your head, then I also have a 2ft schlong that spent the night coated inside your mother's vagina, because you have no way of proving that wrong.
And for that matter, you're a literal janny cocksucker. You cannot prove otherwise.

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>>17041286
>she thinks DD is her only true self
>being famous for simping is my true self
>Music career? Oh I don't do music. I do cringe weeb whiter than snow rap and donate every cent I earn to male ecelebs. That's my persona.

>> No.17041674

>>17040370
Mori is pretty fucking retarded calling Lean a new age word. She obviously knows what it is but cuckbeats will give her a pass “m-maybe she doesn’t know” if your a rapper from Texas you know what lean is simple as that no shelter sub kid excuse will cope.

>> No.17041676

>>17040172
idol culture will never go away. you need to go back faggot as all of this shit isn't meant for you. find another hobby to ruin

>> No.17041724

>>17039987
Deadbeats, if you care about your oshi screenshot this shit and send it to her. It hits the nail on the head.

>> No.17041730 [DELETED] 

>>17027370
niggersanji can have her, if they survived losing Coco, what can Mori do to them? Holobronies like what? have the 9/10 best chuubas kek, niggers got the king tho

>> No.17041738

>>17041660
She truly does fit in with TT with how "ironic" and jaded she is about the whole anime idol culture.

>> No.17041754

>>17041338
She does come into the years where she reflects on her actions, it will still take a while. But then again anyone would notice that they are not untouchable if they fuck up this badly and management has to intervene.
Let's hope for the best because otherwise I can't imagine her having a future in Hololive.

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>>17041519
Its the opposite duh, if she treated More as her job, none of thise would happend.

>> No.17041776

Isn't drugs a big no-no in japan in particular? The shitstained cherry on top of this is if she gets investigated for possession

>> No.17041795

>>17041676
Convince your oshi to leave hololive, you guys don't have to deal with us and we don't have to deal with you. If Calli hates idol culture and hololive she should just leave, no need to bother the actual hololive members that want to be idols

>> No.17041813

>>17028992
you really believe what you typed fag? a 9yr old from the suburb nowadays know what lean means, and an underground ''rapper'' dont?. Dont kid yourself

>> No.17041816

>>17041660
The irony is this is how Mori looks at Hololive culture, as a bunch of cringe weebs donating to virtual girlfriends. And while there are a bunch of those, that's not all Hololive is. But that's why she won't embrace Calliope Mori fully because that would mean encouraging that and rejecting DD who would never do those types of things. She has no flexibility of mind and it's kind of sad.

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>>17041674
Next up, Kiara gives a full on roman salute, calling for SEAschizos and eggs to be put into voluntary detainment facilities. Asks KFP if THEY WANT DEN TOTALEN KRIEG!!!
Next next up, Kiara didn't know the connotations between her actions and the actions of a certain Bavaro-Austrian failed art student. WWIII ensues. The final yab is the atomic bombing of every major city on this planet because of chimken.

But she didn't know. Teehee :P

>> No.17041871

>>17041813
guess how I know you're underage

>> No.17041889

>>17039987
Excellent take on Mori's psyche. Very based.

>> No.17041917

>>17041816
Holy shit you put it soo eloquently.

>> No.17041932

>>17040370
sure mori fucked up but why bring up some nigger twitter literally who to prove your point? there are many other, and better, ways of doing that

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>>17041538
You're the one who is retarded im afraid.
It's a simple logic, if vtubers dont go collab with others all the time than it means there's some rule about it, plain and simple.
I dont have to prove my assumptions, and you cannot prove them being wrong, because even if there's no proof that something exist, it doesnt mean it doesnt exist, unless you can prove otherwise.

>> No.17041957

>>17022972
A Texas rapper not knowing what lean is and calling it new age is like a New Yorker not knowing what deep dish pizza is. It just doesn’t exist nor happen. But cuckbeats need to cope somehow

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>>17041816
>Mori hates her simps
>Mori is the biggest simp of them all
Sad!

>> No.17041974

>>17041871
yeah coz I know that lean is fag, yeah and suburb? boohoo he used suburb, he's underage. kek

>> No.17041991 [DELETED] 

>>17040506
Wow I didn't even think about that, Mori is actually in Japan. We hear about Irys going to karaoke and lunch and off collabs with other holos, Kiara obviously did too. Fucking nothing from Mori.
Cuckbeats, how do you actually defend that? She literally doesn't care about hololive

>> No.17042020

>>17027370
I like both company's streamers but I can't see a future where she becomes part of Nijisanji. She'd have way less of an audience, she wouldn't benefit from having the model she currently has either. It's not a huge hit to her financially since some like Pomu have their gachikoi under lock and key, but it's still a hit nonetheless. TT or Conner at least would also probably drop her when she has less numbers to leech off, you can't trust most Youtubers to actually be friends without having an ulterior motive.
I don't know, she could probably play the Souls games and maybe Persona 4 G on stream since they have permissions. But I doubt it wouldn't be anything she couldn't do as an indie if for some reason she would still want to stream independently.

>>17041863
In fairness, the relations between failed austrian art students is still pretty fun.

>> No.17042039

What the fuck happened now?
This shit is the first thing I see after taking a break from /vt/

>> No.17042089

>>17042039
same same fag, we just don't let Mori rest

>> No.17042092

>>17042039
Shes coming back to her old work persona

>> No.17042102

>>17028903
>It's like Ina telling us she doesn't know what kimchi is

Fucking kek

>> No.17042151

This shitstorm is the only thing mori has done that I've found amusing. God dammit brapper, how can someone be so retarded.

>> No.17042164 [DELETED] 

>>17040845
kek Larry Bird was a shorthand for Robert Byrd, they got to where they are at around the same time.
Imagine the joke, a KKK senator with a representative to dominate the "black man's sport" hahahaha
Those old white farts have been laughing at you negros for the past 40+ years and you poor fools don't even realize it.

>> No.17042195

>>17041208
he probably regrets the Tyler one anyway, since the latter's cited him as an influence.

>> No.17042200

The Nazis lost, chudcels.

>> No.17042207

>>17041957
Well we only know it as Chicago trash, but I get ya.

>> No.17042223

>>17028903
Post with the pic got deleted. Anyone got a link?

>> No.17042245

>>17042223
Go back.

>> No.17042255

>>17042039
I'm copypasting the QRD
>Mori collabs with TT people
>person from TT named Connor says in his stream that people in hololive are popular not because of talent but because of brand
>https://files.catbox.moe/icy78x.mp4
>fast forwarding
>member in Moris stream politely asks her to not associate with these people
>https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png
>Mori insults the members and says that Connor apologised to every holoEN member
>https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4
>clip of Kiara proof that this was a lie. Kiara hasn't been in contact with any of them
>https://streamable.com/5a8uq2#
>she donates 50 subs to Connor on her brand new twitch account
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM
>someone superchats "condom money for Connor"
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html
>Mori announces that she wont read superchats anymore
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM
>keeps talking about the drama on stream
>Mori announces that she will be streaming on twitch semi-regularly from now on
>people even in her youtube comment section are mad to her
>few days later she responds to 6 days old tweet of someone posting a comic of deadbeat getting literally cucked by Connor who is fucking Mori on the picture
>http://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924
>even reddit gets mad at her
>she replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please."
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/htukq15/
>https://files.catbox.moe/lxuexz.png
>she gets downvote bombed
>shortly after she deletes it and apologises and announces break
>https://web.archive.org/web/20220123064719/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640
>says she "hit the lean hard"
>anons realize she just confirmed getting high with codeine as drugs are rare in japan for someone as her.
>a mixture of Jolly Ranchers, Sprite, and codeine that will get you high asf.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_(drug)
>basically admits drug use
>damage control a bit later
>https://files.catbox.moe/t7oy6q.png
>After 2 hours of this yab happened apparently after a meeting with COVER demon cubes posts on roommate account announcing a comeback next month

>> No.17042271

>>17042151
wondering whats on her mind when she tweeted that?

>> No.17042323

The climax of Good Will Hunting is when Ben Affleck tells Matt Damon to stop wasting his potential and to go for that job that he knows he can do. Because while getting drunk and fucking around the streets of Boston is part of Will, his intelligence is part of him too, and he's denying it in order to not leave his friends behind or seem better than them.

Except for Mori, all her "friends" did tell her that Hololive would be selling out or abandoning them, and they were very vocal and bitter about it and even though she ultimately took the job and released End of a Life, she still hears those voices and still secretly agrees with them. It doesn't help that some of her current "friends" say similar things. So she can't fully become what she's meant to be because she thinks it's anathema to who she believes she is.

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>>17042020
>the relations between failed austrian art students is still pretty fun.

>recklessly brave, idealistic, loudmouth failed art student, homeless, endless shit end jobs, not even German, gives his all for Germany. Ends up waltzing into his home country with unnecessarily ridiculous multinational firepower behind him
Compare and contrast
>recklessly brave, idealistic, loudmoth failed idol, homeless, endless black companies, not even Japanese, gives her all for Japan.
>>>>>You are here
I'm looking forward to drones and panzers painted bright orange dealing hot death on every single bullshit political ideology on the field today, just because the Kaiserin declared it be so.

>> No.17042336 [DELETED] 

>>17041108
why don't you go back, then?

>> No.17042382

>>17042271
well she was drunk so probably how much she hates life and work

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>>17041816
>that's not all Hololive is
Imagine being so insecure about your hobbies that you delude yourself that you are somehow better then the rest of the "plebs", when you just end up being pretentious hypocrite.
And thats what she is, a hypocrite who would do just the same but thats okay as long as he's not anime.

>> No.17042397

one thing I hate when she decided to graduate is [Q] might not be released anymore. Mori?, you even affected my shark wife. how dare

>> No.17042438

>>17042271
>*buuuuuurp* my drank and my three step my drank an my three step
>wait a minute let me check my art tag or those nerds will get mad
>100 posts in
>what the fuck is this comic??? Fucking virgins, lemme clap back with my superior intellect *finishes 2nd bottle of johnny blue and chases it with a whole bottle of cough syrup*

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>>17041935
Don't worry champ they'll teach you logic in high school language classes when you get to them.

>> No.17042443 [DELETED] 

>>17040370
why she wants to be a nigger?

>> No.17042452

>>17041108
why don't you go back, then?

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Does anyone have a link to the first thread or the first posts that came up here when she posted the cuckbeat tweet? I really want to see the shit storm it was.

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Pokobee says: Fuck Wiggers

>> No.17042507

>>17041795
it's you who should convince your "idols". If Yagoo wanted it, he wouldnt have hired Calli and others. So clearly he doesnt care about everyone being "idol" and the shitty culture. Cover cares about numbers much more. So priority will always be what is most popular thing.

>> No.17042526

>>17042443
1. American
2. Woman
3. Social media addict
4. Proudy

It's like being born with AIDS, she never stood a chance.

>> No.17042564

>>17037316
Kiara already said she wanted to move on about the ship a time ago.
Jvspv

>> No.17042580

>>17042334
Honestly I'd welcome it. The world doesn't have cute young dictators anyways.

>> No.17042601

>>17042483
Look it up yourself lazy nigger

>> No.17042599

>>17042507
>he *shouldnt* have hired Calli
That i agree with

>> No.17042630

>>17042255
>>After 2 hours of this yab happened apparently after a meeting with COVER demon cubes posts on roommate account announcing a comeback next month
Damn I didn't know about this.
This fucking screams graduation.
Also I hadn't checked her roomate in a while but holy shit her caucasity has skyrocketed since last we met, I didn't know it was possible for her to go even whiter.

>> No.17042650

>>17042507
I didn't fucking know Yagoo is a fucking wizard that can predict the future anon. It's highly possible that they saw Calli's audition as a competent musician that will help boost EN. How the fuck would they know that this shit would happen?

>> No.17042666

>>17042507
Each and every single other HoloEN Myth member have had exemplary behavior, compared to, e.g.
>Kiara being an sjw before holo
>Gura being alcoholic pink cat ripoff before holo
>Ina being Autismus Maximus never-leaves-her-room before holo
Ame was fine, if niche, LMAO

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I hope I don't know any of you in real life. A lot of you seem to be very racist, homophobic, and all around hateful people. If anyone around me said some of the stuff I see in this thread, I'd knock their teeth in.

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>>17042334
I'm unironically hoping for this, and with some backseating she might just succeed.

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>>17042323
> “You don't owe it to yourself. You owe it to me. 'Cause tomorrow, I'm gonna stream and I'll have 2 viewers. And I'll still be doin' this shit. And that's alright, that's fine. I mean, you're sitting on a winning lottery ticket and you're too much of a autist to cash it in. And that's bullshit. 'Cause I'd do anything to fuckin' have what you got, so would any of these fuckin' indies. It'd be an insult to us if you're still getting involved in petty drama. Hanging around with anitubers and clout chasers is a fuckin' waste of your time.”

>> No.17042742

>>17042650
>How the fuck would they know that this shit would happen?
Background checks, just like I did so I always assumed this shit would happen eventually.

>> No.17042743

>>17041991
>Fucking nothing from Mori.
Calli and Irys literally mentioned that they go to drink tea together on a regular.

>> No.17042763

>>17042630
that had been announced for two months now

>> No.17042782

>>17042674
whatever will i do~~

>> No.17042809

>>17040172
le ebin idol culture blaming shifting LMAO

>> No.17042817

The fact that so many of you retards breached containment makes me physically ill

>> No.17042837

>>17042442
You cant teach logic, you either have brains or you dont, like you for example, with the way you took all the bait.
>hololive is a company they have rules
>HURRRDURRR THEY DONT EXIST
>prove that they dont
>the burden of proof lies on you
The very fact how vtubers act and interact strictly within their echochamber is a proof alone that they do have certain restrictions about interactions with other people, you cant even name other vtubers in the chat unless its mentioned by vtuber.
It's called circumstantial evidence.

>> No.17042862

>>17041932
Because it's funny you stupid bitch. If that exchange happened on 4chan without names and pictures you'd be fine with it you dog water bitch

>> No.17042873

>>17042742
They aren't as paranoid as you even if they were, they wouldn't have hired like half of the talent right now for being menhera. Yagoo is a saviourfag he probably thought he can save Calli like he did all his other talent but sometimes people lose

>> No.17042891

>>17042601
Feed me up senpai

>> No.17042913

>>17042271
Mori here. This is what I was thinking:

>I'm sick of not being able to tell those haters to fuck off
>I'm sick of this company and all its fucking rules
>The worst thing is that Connor was right and I should do whatever the hell I want
>Fuck it, no one tells me what to do

>> No.17042924

>>17042255
>Literal junkie
Based rap culture appropriator

>> No.17042943

THE MORI ANTI THREADS ARE DYING

REPLY TO MAKE THEM DIE FASTER

>> No.17042946

>>17040172
>culture changes
They dont change unless certain>>>>>>>>>>> people<<<<<<<<<<<<<< forces them to degenerate.
>fuck idol
Fuck your nigger and whore culture.

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>>17042580
>>17042698
Now convince Kiara that she needs to take control for the good of everyone (quotation marks).
Being the boss of holoEN is not enough for boneitis chicken. Her fibromyalgia is simply her Austrian genes screaming at her that she's underselling her talent. Only complete global domination, making the wheel turn a complete spoke, can solve her bone hort.

>> No.17042968

>>17039174
the ships that crazy lesbian-obsessed fanartists draw are not an accurate representation of their actual relationship

>> No.17042980
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>>17042255
>>17042255
>The guy that made the comic merely did it because TT shat on mecha anime
>>>/jp/thread/S38296847#p38297071
Which makes it extra hilarious as someone who didn't care about her and only hated TT cause this spiral unintentionally.

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>>17042913
Do it, Mori. Make /vt/ burn in it's own flame.

>> No.17043044

>>17042709
I can't help but think of Suisei's 2veiw indie friends who were literally sobbing with joy at her 3D debut. They went and talked about how hard she worked for it. They don't even break triple digit viewers for their streams. Compare that to Mori and all her indie rapper friends who shit on her for cashing that ticket.

>> No.17043082

>>17037940
To be honest I thought texas tea was slang for oil.

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>>17042950
She just needs to scale up KFP a bit more

>> No.17043115

>>17043013
>I'm going to own the trolls by feeding them.
>Damn, the trolls got hands.
>It will surely work the Nth time.
I'm not in awe of her spirit. I'm scared her courage comes in liquid, cough-suppressing form.

>> No.17043126

>>17043044
The west is disgusting.

>> No.17043154

>>17043082
>texas tea
so whats texas tea then?

>> No.17043170

>>17042913
>>I'm sick of not being able to tell those haters to fuck off
1.Welcome to internet, you dont tell people to fuck off, you just ignore them.
2.Your "haters" hates you for a reason.
>I'm sick of this company and all its fucking rules
Welcome to real world, its called a job, and the rules dont force you to stay single, just do shit offline.
>The worst thing is that Connor was right and I should do whatever the hell I want
Enjoy your end of career and staying no name shitty rapper till the end of days.

>> No.17043171

>>17043126
Except all her indie rapper friends were just bitter Japanese male losers.

>> No.17043203

>>17040506
Why mori is allow to stay on Japan but kiara isn't?
I thought mori was living on United States

>> No.17043221

>>17043154
I don't know, that's why I said I thought it was slang for oil.

>> No.17043230

>>17043096
I mean, turning /vt/ orange was her Beer Hall Putsch, wasn't it? Moricaust is the night of the long knives.

>> No.17043252

>>17042873
There is "menhera" and there is "this person isnt suited for this work environment", which was clearly visible within her first month. She was a hit and im not gonna deny it but she'd be better off literally anywhere but hololive given her shitty personality.

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>>17042837
>You cant teach logic

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>>17039987
based wall of text that is actually worth reading

>> No.17043268

>>17042913
>Mori here
While I'm fully aware that this isn't her, I'm still gonna shit on you as if it were cause it's cathartic.

>> No.17043310

>>17042443
White guilt.
Lack of culture and cultural heritage.

>> No.17043332

>>17042483
>>17042891
You know what? I shouldn't be spoonfeeding you, but here it is:

>/jp/:
>>/jp/thread/S38296847#p38296964
>/vt/:
>>/vt/thread/S16932540#p16933056

Have a good laugh anon :^)

>> No.17043334

>>17042650
>competent musician that will help boost EN.
which is exactly what happened?

>> No.17043365

>>17043203
Kiara is European. It's in your bones, your soul like the nips.
Mori is landless. No respect.

>> No.17043390

>>17043334
Yes it did happen, I never denied that. They just didn't expect the full menhera breakdown from Calli.

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>>17039987
This is the ultimate based take. I'm going to pretend you got double doubles anon. Checked

>> No.17043396

>>17043254
You cant teach history
History is in your soul

>> No.17043413

>>17041776
Admitting to do drugs in Japan is more or less the equivalent of admitting to being a pedophile in the west.

>> No.17043465

>>17043396
Browsing /int/, /his/ and /pol/ combined+GSG gives you a more balanced view of history than multiple bazillion dollar degrees from affirmative action loving universities.

>> No.17043479

>>17043413
i remember it being one of the lesser Monoe rrats when that still was something people speculated about

>> No.17043485

>>17042666
Yes, but at the end of the day they do their shit just fine without complaining or trying to cause drama, like Kiara for example.
Callie is just being sperging retard who act as if she was forced into slave labor.

>> No.17043489

>>17027370
>she's going to straight up leave and join Nijisanji
promise?

>> No.17043491

>>17037325
based /m/chads killing off fake whore EN Vtubers

>> No.17043526

>>17039119
She could have done that with indies like she promised but decided to collab with cancer e-celebs who don't need the exposure.

>> No.17043537

>>17043465
>Browsing /int/, /his/ and /pol/ combined+GSG gives you a more balanced view of history
if you believe this you are mentally ill. not even disagreeing on the university degrees because they are specialized.

>> No.17043541

>>17037325
I'm not a /m/ autist, can someone explain this image to me? All I can infer from the image is the podcast being TT.

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>>17039987
Too long; read anyway

>> No.17043565

>>17041177
>>17041286
>>17041434

Holy fucking shit, guys. She teased a new DD project MONTHS before the Twitter bullshit. These have nothing to do with each other. She's not "running away."

She wants to give something to DD fans after over a year of hiatus. It's not that fucking deep.

>> No.17043583

>>17043203
Kiara had a special visa which she couldn't renew, mori has a normal work visa that can be easily changed by your current employer

>> No.17043636

>>17043565
All 20 of them?

>> No.17043651

>>17043396
Not mine, that's where I keep my cafeteria.

>> No.17043668

>>17042980
I've not been paying attention how did this image cause a spiral

>> No.17043758

>>17043537
This is really not a /vt/ topic, but higher education does not exist anymore. Unis and college simply train you. If you want to learn, you gotta learn by your own damn self. The wombo-combo of /int/ for the common man, /his/ for the holier-than-thou and /pol/ for the cutting edge of edgy forms a fine basis for learning to LEARN FOR YOUR FUCKING SELF AND NOT RELY ON CONTEMPORARY AUTHORITATIVE FIGURES. Like you should. 4chan is a primer, not the akashic records for gods sake.

>> No.17043830

>>17043758
>higher education does not exist anymore
t. dumbo without higher education and believes conspiracy theories.

>> No.17043856

>>17043565
There's like a handful of DD fans. Nobody likes DD on her own. The years have proven that. What they do like is Calliope Mori. This doesn't prove that people just are in it for the anime avatar and the Hololive brand name, it proves that they are in it for the anime avatar, Hololive brand name AND the woman behind it as a complete package. If you remove any one of those essential elements, the whole thing doesn't work and most importantly, NONE OF THEM ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHER. Upd8 learned this lesson so hard when they tried to switch Kizuna Ai's VA that it cratered their entire fucking company. That's why Holos like Suisei and Marine were so worried about changing their voices, and why Suisei fought tooth and nail to bring her personality with her when she joined Hololive.

But of course Mori just thinks that people should like DD without the anime avatar or that fans only like the anime avatar.

>> No.17043863

>>17043830
Prove him wrong. This should be interesting.

>> No.17043876

Hello. I'm 2 years from the future. I'd like to say that Mori has still not graduated, this Twitter incident has been long forgotten, and you all look like autists rolling in the mud by making such a fuss out of this.

That is all.

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>>17022972
we rape Connor, duh

>> No.17043908

>>17040506
MAYBE, just MAYBE its because the TT guys are more popular? Its bridging the gap between anitubers and vtubers. You guys would prefer something as bland as her collabing to the jap girls which has been done to infinity when this market is actually a more bold approach. The fanbases collide, Connor saw potential in this and look at him now, he even admitted that he uses vtuber in his titles because it brings in more viewers. Are people that blind that they can't see how genius of a marketing move that can be? The only problem is the fact that the TT crew are males and that just makes the retards who spent akasupas just to make themselves think that they own the pussy who talks on the screen. I genuinely can't understand how it is so fucking hard. Are all people here under the age of 18 or just old managers that are out of touch. Some of the retards here sound like the guys who come up with ideas for some video games that makes you say "what were they thinking?".

>> No.17043926

>>17043856
>Nobody likes DD on her own.
Objectively untrue, but ogey

>> No.17043948

>>17043876
I do not believe this because she will inevitably fuck up again, sooner or later.

>> No.17043951

>>17043830
Take this to another board, faggot. I've entertained your flight of fancy enough.
>higher education
Receiving intelligence for money?
>conspiracy theories
Like bats causing an outbreak of a global pandemic?

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>>17043758
this nigga really angry school didn't teach him the entire history of greece with only 3 hours a week on it

>> No.17043963

>>17043926
Not enough people like DD on her own that she can do it full time as her only thing in life. She was literally performing to rooms of a dozen people.

>> No.17043977

>>17041863
Hitler warukunai

>> No.17043979

>>17039313
>>The subreddit downvotes her making her the first Holomem to achieve such a thing

Coco was downvoted when she posted "Just hurts" and "Just enjoy". Though not to the extent that Mori was downvoted.

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>>17043902

>> No.17043995

>>17043758
Anon I think you might have been cheezeburger pilled, especially since you said "anymore".
Different countries handle higher education very differently, you know?

>> No.17043997
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>>17043668
The art is an edit from one of the panels of the latest chapters of the Rent-A-Girlfriend manga where the protagonist Kazuya imagines his love interest Chizuru being fucked by a romantic rival, and in the process he gains a boner while crying over it inside a pool

>> No.17044006

>>17042980
I'm confused, If he hates TT why make a comic were connor cucks the fans a vtuber? I thought the whole point was the comic is making fun of deadbeats, not Cali or TT. Am I wrong?

>> No.17044010 [DELETED] 

>>17043926
Yes anon, he clearly meant there is not a single soul on this entire planet who doesn't care about some youtuber with more than 1 subscriber.
God, cuckbeats are insufferable.

>> No.17044034

>>17043830
He’s right. There is a huge gap between the amount of people with higher education degrees and the amount of jobs requiring those qualifications. Higher education isn’t about getting a piece of paper which now over 70% of people get, it’s about your own independent studying, skills and experience.

>> No.17044043

>>17039987
Based essayposter, someone send this to Mori.

>> No.17044042

>>17043997
>KYM
kill yourself

>> No.17044045

>>17043977
>2122
>Kiara warukunai

>> No.17044051

>>17043758
so you're mentally ill got it, it's as if you don't understand what the lil paper you get for graduating is worth

>> No.17044058

>>17043541
>>17043668
Everything seemed to die down after the original condom supacha, mostly because Kson also appeared on Trash Taste about Friday and she's well-respected enough that people here and Twitter thought Mori interacting with Connor is okay.
Incoming JP /m/fag>>17042980 making the original kanokari deadbeat cuck edit first from /jp/ around Jan 18 >>38229529 which spread to /vt/ the same day >>16622663
A KFP schizo posted it with Mori's art tag and the rest is history.

>> No.17044059

>>17043332
Thanks, bro.

>> No.17044066

>>17044006
To purely stir shit. An effort to rally holo fans to hate connor.

>> No.17044078

>>17028903
So where is the thing where she said that all deadbeats are cucks? I only see a guy posting his shitty art and she making fun of it. Wait this was a rat because everybody is bored ain't it? You people get mad at anything

>> No.17044085

>>17043979
Coco recovered from that and the subreddit ended up sucking her cocock. Meanwhile, Mori was just downvoted to hell for feeding the antis

>> No.17044090

>>17042674
ok nigger faggot

>> No.17044092

>>17044034
>Higher education isn’t about getting a piece of paper which now over 70% of people get, it’s about your own independent studying, skills and experience.
So literally the exact same thing it's been since the first library came into existence?

>> No.17044095

>>17043876
Thanks Ame, looking forward to the paladins stream with Kiara soon. Was it any good?

>> No.17044099

>>17043830
cope. you trust authority too much. universities only have higher education programs to fund their research.
the best college has to offer is socialization.

>> No.17044120

>>17042630
>caucasity
nperson detected

>> No.17044123

>>17043997
>BWAHHHHHHHHHBAHHHHHHHHHHHH
LMAO this fucking guy looks and acts like a faggot I hope he gets cucked further, guy's already one for trying to get a real girlfriend on a rental app

>> No.17044125

>>17044042
Fuck off, I don't have the original with me

>> No.17044155

>>17042630
White is right.

>> No.17044205

>>17044123
Not that anon but the series is notorious for being basically the worst romcom in history, even topping Nisekoi, and this is only just the most outlandish peak.
He will continue to get cucked for another hundred chapters and it's amazing to see the mangaka completely devolve.

>> No.17044225

>>17028903
this might've worked if she hadn't gone "can I please have fun?". you don't drop a bit like this. it reveals you as a thin-skinned tryhard.

>> No.17044243

>>17043413
I'm glad that not many jp members had collab with Mori. Imaging how worst could it be when she starts to sell those lean to them.

>> No.17044281

>>17044205
>it's amazing to see the mangaka completely devolve.
Explain, are his interviews getting more demented or something?

>> No.17044296

>>17044042
trying too hard

>> No.17044298

>>17044078
>she making fun of it
It's ok ESL-chama.
First of all, it's 'her' making fun of it.
Secondly, she tried to come off cool but:
>ego searched a 5 day old tweet
>made a ''cool'' post to slay the trolls
>came off as complete nerd
>went overboard with the damage control

I guess it's difficult to understand if you're ESL, but Mori basically shit the bed drunk. And then just kept on deadbrapping her sheets into an even brown to downplay the first brown stains.

>> No.17044310

>>17028903
What kind of damage control is "lol I'm on drugs"? That only creates more fires that need to be put out.

>> No.17044311

>>17043479
>Lesser
That was pretty much the leading rrat, only rivaled by "Monoe was a government employee".

>> No.17044332

>>17043758
>the akashic records
Your point is retarded, but this is a based reference.

>> No.17044352

>>17022972
Imagine being so mad that your oshi gives your red superchat to the people that you absolutely despise over misinformation that you start an entire rrat that spans over multiple days

>> No.17044363

>>17044310
>What kind of damage control is "lol I'm on drugs"?
The kind where a rapper from Texas claims ignorance on what Texan tea is in rap lingo.

>> No.17044400

>>17044281
The entire manga has basically been him going deeper and deeper into his NTR fetish in the most non-transparent way possible and surprisingly quickly. Think of it like Araki and his homosexual awakening but played at 10x speed and with no actual entertaining writing.

>> No.17044478

>>17043541
/m/ autist says he basically did it for the lol and that the deadbeat's face is a skull he stole from a /v/ comic

>> No.17044486

>>17044352
The T3 Deadbeats have been on the warpath against TT for months. Since the first Gigguk Shadowverse stream and then some. This is just the latest entry in the chronicle of "Mori vs T3s but they're both autistic retards".

>> No.17044501

>>17044298
You make it sound like she is the president of the USA and she replied to a picture of her whole vagina stretched on screen. Get over yourself you fucking delusional retard. Its a fucking image. She tried to make fun of the image. If it failed or not i don't care. This is all that happened. Nobody would get fired over this in the real world. These are fictional issues created by the most retarded vtuber fans ever. Its like saying i saw a drawing of Putin sucking dicks so i guess he is gay now.

>> No.17044510

>>17044078
Anon, regardless of intent, she retweeted a pic of her getting fucked by a drama magnet collab partner while the personification of her fanbase cries cuck tears. She was basically making fun of deadbeats on her work account. I think it was funny but it was extremely stupid. Retweeting actual full blown porn would have been a better look.

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>>17044478
>baalbuddy
>/v/
Dude.

>> No.17044561

Fuck Mori and the cucks that support her.

>> No.17044563

>>17042255
>https://files.catbox.moe/icy78x.mp4

This is so tactless. Even this english vtuber(sorry don't know her name) picked up on how bad it sounded and didn't want to answer it. Connor's an unlikeable piece of shit. The other 2 on trash taste seem much more aware of etiquette when talking to guests.

>> No.17044592

>>17044400
>araki the prolgbt coming out but 10x faster
dam this is extremely funny even if off-topic, thanks anon

>> No.17044601

>>17044205
hey, at least it's not set in high-school.

>> No.17044605

>>17043926
Compare Mori's numbers to her roommates numbers and then bare in mind that her roommate got a bump in those numbers literally because she's Mori's roommate.

>> No.17044607

>>17044501
>She tried to make fun of the image.
and then she backpedaled
and then she say she was chugging cough syrup
and then she said haha how was i supposed to know regional slang from the region i'm in and would know the slang for

literally nobody would give a shit if she said nothing else

>> No.17044614

>>17044501
The drama is not about crying_skeleton.jpg
The drama is Mori being edgy for a year+ and this one moment slamming all the condensed drama into her at once.
Also the drug abuse. LOL!!!

>> No.17044615

>>17040172
I bet you never sent an akasupa and are a greynigger

>> No.17044657

>>17044615
Not the flex you imagined it would be. Vtubers are not your friends. Learn from Mori.

>> No.17044675

>>17044563
What an annoying twat.

>> No.17044711

>>17043856
I like DD's music, but I only learned about it after a certain Reaper appeared and dogwhistled herself and /here/. I am far from alone.
That's why I think it's stupid if she tries to use the DD return track to distance herself from Hololive. She's never getting away. It's annoying to keep going back to kson because the circumstances are different, but kson does undeniably enjoy the success she has now because of Coco. Similarly, Nina and Kiara had rough starts because of all the shit she did in their PL/roommate accounts.
You can't leave behind who you are and what you've done, no matter what. The change in avatar just puts up a filter, but any strong smell is gonna make its way through eventually, sweet or stank.

>> No.17044715

>>17043908
>TT guys are more popular
They might be more popular among normies and ironic weebs, but they are not popular among real otakus/unironic weebs, who are the real fanbase.

>You guys would prefer something as bland as her collabing to the jap girls which has been done to infinity.
If you want to watch something else you free to go to twitch and watch whatever shitfest you want. Also nothing more bland than to collab with actual clout chasers who lack talent to create good content by themselves.

>Are people that blind that they can't see how genius of a marketing move that can be?
Yes, genius move to get involved with the current cancer of anime/otaku culture: talentless leechers, grifters and mediocre content creators who take advantage of people with actual talent and pander to normies and ironic weebs.

>The only problem is the fact that the TT crew are males.
You have to be retarded to believe this problem is about angry unicorns. Mori collabed with Rika and they even released a song together. Nobody said anything because it wasn't a problem.

>Are all people here under the age of 18 or just old managers that are out of touch...
Stop trying to portray yourself as some kind of avant-garde thinker. You're clearly not.

>> No.17044740

>>17044501
t. mori

>> No.17044751

>>17044510
I guess when you take into consideration the unicorns that lurk on this site and on twitter what you say is pretty "dramatic"
>>17044563
I don't get this thing. So people claim Connor is an asshole for saying out loud something that people say here all the time. Hololive is a platform used to launch people. Help me understand how it is okay to say it on /vt/ and other circles but when he says it, it is fucking wrong and he is an asshole. The whole thing doesn't even attack hololive. It just says that if you get to be part of a popular platform it will give you basic stuff to start your own following. Am i just going insane?

>> No.17044757

>>17044657
Ah dropping the not friend card huh? Well you anti idol nigger we support the girls cause we want to show our appreciation for the idol experience they give us which inspires us as people, not like cucks that don't donate more than 5 dollars would know

>> No.17044762

>>17039807
Do you see the perpetrator?

>> No.17044766

>>17044501
it suggests she dislikes her fans. bad PR move.

>> No.17044816

>>17044711
>You can't leave behind who you are and what you've done, no matter what
Orange woman literally went from having a 24/7 woman moment before holoMYTH to becoming a leader. You shouldn't forgive her past, you should be in awe at her personal growth.

>> No.17044834

>>17044549
I only know his comics from /v/ okay?

>> No.17044864

>>17044563
Dang, look at her eyelids twitching.

>> No.17044889

>>17039987
tl;dr

>> No.17044915

>>17044563
>>17044675
and you won't know who she is. You are also spineless fucking cucks. There is literally not a single thing wrong with what he said. She wanted to change the topic out of fear of getting the Veibae treatment.
>>17044751
Because he's an "ironic weeb"

>> No.17044923

>>17044711
>Kiara
is the best EN now, in my opinion. Her growth has been insane.

>> No.17044953

>>17044757
so is that why youre assblasted that she doesnt behave like idol you want her to be? You already invested money and cant move on. So you seethe?

>> No.17045010

>>17044715
My friend you are either too young or too forgetful to remember a time where anitubers where the hot shit on youtube. If you said this about i don't know what retard who came into youtubing 1 or 2 years ago i would agree with you but fucking hell Gigguk is making videos for how fucking long now? I haven't watched their old content but what in God's name do you even name talentless leechers. These are not people who make 3 AM videos or shit like that. When is the last time you had at least some of the people they invited over for a talk. How do they take advantage of people? They diversify content in so many fucking ways. I am not trying to portray myself as an avant-garde thinker. You need to fucking check the views for the videos Connor does with Ironmouse to see the fact that they do have more views than other content.
I don't speak in "rrats" or whatever the fuck you retards call them. Go check the fucking data and see that this is indeed a marketing move that people fucking want.

>> No.17045023

>>17044953
No, I'm sad to see the girl that once had her idol arc threw it away to defend a bunch of mecha hating faggots

>> No.17045054

>>17044751
Niggy, you haven't even seen unicorn drama yet. This is nowhere near close. I'm assuming you're new or a tourist because the JPs have had to deal with much worse. Actual celebrities and musicians have to deal with much worse, for that matter. Drama scales to response, and Mori responded like a dumbass. Assuming she just shuts up and ignores it this will blow over, but that's what I was saying when the first akasupa happened and she kept biting after that, so we'll see. As far as twitter is concerned you should be alot more worried about her supporters there than us laughing here. These are the same horde of two view vtweeters that tried to rip her apart for telling them to actually do something, not earnest fans. If we're having fun, they're actrually salivating.

>> No.17045085

>>17044751
Because this place isn't one single hivemind, it was a different time when HoloEN was near-universally loved as much as it ever was on /vt/. And even if he's factually right that a now unarguable majority of talentless frauds made its way into success through Hololive just because of the brandname it was still a shitty thing to say for only two reasons.

One, this random Vshitshow had to do damage control for some dumb shit someone else said on her stream to try and salvage any chances at getting together (again? I don't know the exact timeline of if it was before or after that one collab with the hypocrite cat) which is a shitty thing to do regardless of if you like them or not, and two is that he's both an anituber and literally carried by his parents connections for his entire life. Also three that he's an anituber and anitubers don't have human rights.

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>>17044751
He explicitly says "You do not have to have talent to get into Hololive; you don't have to be a good streamer, but it gives instant success". This directly and intentionally implies that there are people in Hololive that are not talented and are not good streamers, and further implies that there are people making huge amounts of money simply because they are in Hololive.

This is not only completely unprofessional and disrespectful to everyone in Hololive (and everyone that aspires to be in Hololive), but it's a direct insult to everyone that is a fan of Hololive by saying "you like a talentless hack only because of the brand". It is also a complete falsehood that one look at literally any # breakdown could tell you is a load of shit. It was an incredibly loaded question and Ironmouse was VERY smart to flat out say "change the subject".

When a faggot on /vt/ says "you only care because it's a holobrony", that is anon to anon: two people interacting over their own opinions. Connor was not speaking as a 1-on-1. He was speaking in a general manner, saying that these opinions apply to EVERYONE, not just him and Mouse.

>> No.17045089

>>17045023
>literally makes 2 very detailed high quality videos about mecha
>hates mecha

wat? Gigguk praises all new cool mecha shows that he has watched, like 86.

>> No.17045117

>>17045023
Mori was giving it 5% since literally day 0.
If you like Mori, compare your love for her to Mori's own blind simpitude to sociopathic male ecelebs. You're just a simp, simping for a simp.

>> No.17045123

>>17044915
Go away VShojotard

>> No.17045126

>>17045023
what idol arc?

>> No.17045136

>>17044816
That was pretty much my point. You can't leave behind who you were, so running away just delays the inevitable. If you never clean up, people will smell you eventually.

>> No.17045143

>>17045117
I've not seen that evidence.

>> No.17045157

>>17043908
I don't want any male collabs whatsoever, with anyone.

Japan is right, you are wrong. None of this needs any form of Western "improvement." I, like all actual fans, like vtubers becasue they adhere to and espouse Japanese norms in the English language. That's it. Anything "western" beyond that is harmful to vtubing.

As for collabs they are straight up not needed and I don't want them in any capacity. Might I suggest you return to Marvel and DC? That is your proper place.

>> No.17045167

>>17044751
People here say what they want because they're anonymous. If they knew any of these girls in person, they wouldn't say it to their face. Which is what connor did. Connor has known calli for a year. I don't go to my friend's or business associate's place and say "nice gig, I bet you didn't work hard for it." You might actually have autism if you're not aware that's not how people in real life talk to each other.

>> No.17045202

>>17045157
You just hate the west because it doesn’t pander to the fact that you’re a loser and need to be coddled with this gfe shit. You’re a failure there.

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>>17045010
>My friend

>> No.17045232

Mori is done, she’s been put in the dog house and will be let go once her sabbatical ends. Hololive does need her, they have scores of women who are willing to take her place and toe the line.

I look forward to finger banging her in a dirt cheap soapland after DD finally reaches the recognition it deserves. None.

>> No.17045256

>>17045087
Connor is just jealous about their successes

>> No.17045267

>>17045087
>This directly and intentionally implies that there are people in Hololive that are not talented and are not good streamers, and further implies that there are people making huge amounts of money simply because they are in Hololive.
Okay, but he's completely right though. There's a reason why Hololive spent nearly two years mooching off of every vtuber who thought anyone there would actually be their acquaintance and chinese yuribaiting; because pretty much everyone in gen 2 and before are objectively boring as shit and lacked in viewership for that whole time. And nowadays you can get people like Mumei who'll shoot up to thousands just because Cover managed to hold onto that lightning in a bottle that was the english speaking world.

>> No.17045272

>>17045087
I think the worse thing Connor was referring to as well was the fact that he said that you can just lie on the application and get in even if you have no skills or experience, which is a big slap to the face to the 2views that failed, EN vtubers are retarded tho and love this guy so they're not gonna lash back

>> No.17045292

>>17044915
When is the last time Connor had a comment on an anime that wasn't flavor of the month. He is a "gamer" first. He watches some anime,he enjoys Jojo and thats that. He doesn't say he is an expert on anime. Actually none of them do. Let's be honest when is the last time you watched a "real anime". Unfortunately this is the way anime is seen nowadays. Most people are what you call an "ironic weeb"

>>17045087
Why the fuck would i matter if a guy with somewhat of a following says that he thinks hololive that bring audience to even the most mediocre of persons. He is not the representative of Hololive or any vtuber companies. This could have been marked as a guy not knowing what he is saying says something and thats that. No reputation was tarnished in that exchange. The fact that Ironmouse deflected was actually worse because it turned the thing from a statement to an issue

>> No.17045294

>>17045010
If I wanted to eat shit i would do so, but I don't, so I'm not gonna watch TT. If you enjoy ironic weeb's low quality content with their edgy and self-righteous normie pandering takes, then go watch them.
They being a group of hacks remains unchanged.

>> No.17045313

>>17045136
Chicken never cleaned up. Never apologized for her schizo sjw phase. She understood she fucked up, moved on and gave the antis no ground.

>>17045143
HoloMyth is pretty old by now and a lot of us were following them even before they came down on vtubing like the atomic bombs dropped on the cities of Hiroyuki and Nishimura during /vt/sisters season 0. If you don't know, lurk more. Take some English lessons. Maybe a bullet as well.

>> No.17045316

>>17045267
the worst part of all this is that he actually was right. it just comes off as stupid to say because of how close he is to holomems. None of this would be happening if it was some nobody anituber who said it

>> No.17045335

>>17045167
But Mori got wet by that

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>>17045087
>"You do not have to have talent to get into Hololive; you don't have to be a good streamer, but it gives instant success".
If you felt anything from this then you know he's right.

>> No.17045389

>>17045294
Just because you don't like their content doesn't mean they are hacks. I don't care what your opinion on their content is because its subjective but its one thing to upload a video of nothing but a black screen and then there is another to actually produce content for a fanbase,listen that fanbase demands and also diversify content. Before you ask for proof the fact that they brought vtubers on the show is something the fanbase wanted

>> No.17045401

>>17045010
>My friend you are either too young or too forgetful to remember a time where anitubers where the hot shit on youtube.
I remember the time where all our anime came from bootleg HK VHS and VCDs, where college clubs and small circles of friends passing around the latest OVA like Gunbusters or Tenchi Muyo. I'm not as pessimistic and holier than thou about modern anime trends but the anitubers stuff have been the worst of them because they lacked everything a good reviewer should have, actual knowledge about the industry, directing and cinematography, animation process, history and cultural impact.
The only good anituber was Grumpy Jii-san
Fuck modern anitubers

>> No.17045411

>>17044563
>no context
>rrat

You literally dont know what they were talking about dummy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy0jqr6KY9Q

>> No.17045432

>>17045389
You have to be over 18 to post on this website.

>> No.17045465

>>17045292
Connor is part of Trash taste, which is developed by geexplus which is a subsidiary of bookwalker which in turn is owned by kadokawa corporation. Anything you say is a reflection on your employer. It's japan, people have been fired for saying less on twitter. He should be out on the streets. He can go back to doing indie youtuber stuff if he thinks it's so easy.

>> No.17045470

>>17045292
>Let's be honest when is the last time you watched a "real anime". Unfortunately this is the way anime is seen nowadays.
By Western weebs, maybe. Fucking Ina is more of a sincere anime fan than them. So are the rest of JP

>> No.17045472

Nothing you can do. Management should make her collab with a JP member and translator that give a shit and remind her that there's a brand and others that she affects. Get her out of her bubble.

>> No.17045502

>>17045087
>He explicitly says "You do not have to have talent to get into Hololive
why are you such a nigger? He literally didnt use any of those words? Why are you lying? Are you afraid you'll be exposed for the schizo you are over being mad at nothing burger?

>> No.17045532

>>17045202
If you haven't noticed by now nobody outside the US is interested in "western" stuff which is de facto just American propaganda. Vtubing itself has become and remains popular because it exists outside the "western" sphere of pseudo-entertainment. The same applies for anime, manga and even Korean dramas. Everyone, absolutely everyone is sick and tired of your bullshit. So, again - Japan is right, you are wrong. Vtubing doesn't need improving and DOES NOT and MUST NOT degenerate into your cesspool of general streaming, e-thots and politics.

And I'm European for the record. Everyone's sick of your garbage and you shitting up every form of entertainment. You destroyed your stuff, keep your grubby paws far away from anything with actual worth.

>> No.17045544

>>17045267
Hololive became one of the biggest agencies by gen 2 anon, by your standards ALL of vtubing was small and "failures" compared to today's numbers. Also if anything by your logic everyone before gen 3 or even gen 4 were hyper-talented considering they're the ones who built and made the company popular, and by the way they HAD to be popular first in the east to become popular in the west

>> No.17045553

>>17044711
Literally no one is arguing against the fact that Mori boosted DD's attention. It's just retarded to think the return of DD has anything to do with the Connor bullshit.

>> No.17045577

>>17045335
She's a masochist bitch slut that likes getting choked while dicks are penetrating every orifice.

>> No.17045623

>>17045532
>Only the US is interested in “Western stuff”.

Lmao holy shit you can’t be serious.

>> No.17045624

>>17045432
I think you show your age by not understanding the difference between you not liking something and what a hack actually is
>>17045470
I don't disagree with that. I just say that there is content for everybody and this is exactly what the guys from TT do. If you want more beat by beat stuff you go see Basement or some other guy. I for one really miss DouchebagChocolat but his content was not popular enough so youtube got rid of him. The people decide what is popular and TT realized that collabing with a vtuber is what the people asked for

>> No.17045637

>>17045544
>Hololive became one of the biggest agencies by gen 2 anon
Aqua got mogged harder than almost anyone during her debut at the time. Hololive's no Prism Project but it was absolutely seen as secondary even when compared to fucking Animare.

>> No.17045653

>>17045389
Normies and ironic weebs are not the fanbase but the cancer. The real fanbase were the japs and then the western weebs joined; EN is corrupting that by bringing NPCs. People who watch TT and want chubas there are the same ones Dragon Ball/Naruto is the best anime ever out of the total 5 animes they watched over their lifespan.

>> No.17045678

>>17045389
>Just because you don't like their content doesn't mean they are hacks.
The anime man (as if the name wasn't enough deterrent) straight up invents his own narratives and makes up drama for his videos, the nene video was the most disingenuous video I've ever seen from a topic of japanese youtubers, even the fucking clickbaiter yuta is less disingenuous than him

>> No.17045692

>>17045502
Cuckbeats already mind broken by ironic weeb cock.

>> No.17045730

Conner is wrong because the holos are talented at being cute, which is the most important aspect of any chuuba

>> No.17045737

>>17045653
>Dragon Ball/Naruto is the best anime ever out of the total 5 animes they watched over their lifespan

nobody thinks that nobody in TT watches it and its not what most people in online communities watch. You exposed yourself for being smelly boomer weeb. Kys already.

>> No.17045781

>>17045637
>it was absolutely seen as secondary even when compared to fucking Animare.
Bro really? Animare had 2-3 star talents since forever, doesn't mean they were above holo when Gen 2 was on the rise, and Choco was the star of Gen 2 until she got fucked by youtube

>> No.17045845

>>17045730
It's not even a matter of whether Connor is right or wrong: He is validating Mori's own biases about the company she's in, and she's using that to fuel her own imposter syndrome.
Connor's just an uneducated twat. His opinion doesn't matter beyond how it influences people, Mori particularly in this case.

>> No.17045851

>>17045678
Making up shit about other people because you can't produce anything good by yourself so you need to speak disingenuous shit about other people has to be talent, right?

>> No.17045875

>>17045678
I know the video that you are referring to and i also disliked it. That kind of video will just get buried and it will show him that it isn't something popular so he will do something else. That video and the connor thing gets brought up as the main issues on this whole shebang heh and they are just points to bring people who speedread/watch on a hate bandwagon. Its really blown out of proportions

>> No.17045969

>>17045292
>Why the fuck would i matter if a guy with somewhat of a following says that he thinks hololive that bring audience to even the most mediocre of persons. He is not the representative of Hololive or any vtuber companies.
Because Mori, a hololiver being slagged on by this guy, continually references him in her streams and defends him to the expense of her own fanbase.
Are you retarded? Have you not been paying attention?
If she was not connected to this cunt none of this would've mattered

>> No.17045974

>>17045851
Lying IS a talent, albeit one that is very easy to use nowadays, since there's retards on the internet that will believe it.

>> No.17045998

>>17045737
>You exposed yourself for being smelly boomer
Holy reddit lingo. Go back, you can't collect karma here.

>> No.17046012

>>17045532
I don’t think it has to do with Americans in particular. Part of the huge interest vtubing got from a western audience was due to how many people were sick of seeing online content just being ethots and dramafags on twitch or mindless clickbait and reaction content for zoomers. Europeans were just as guilty for producing this trash as Americans and the main reason a lot of people are mad is because they don’t want it spread to their oshis stream.

t. fellow european

>> No.17046013

>>17045624
>George Lucas got a lot of people to see the Phantom Menance so that means he's not a hack
they're good at making zoomer trash that appeals to lowest common denominator retards. They're hacks at making anything good or worth engaging with
I mean for fucks sake have you seen the Nene vid by anime man? It's completely low quality and based on the bullshit schizo rrats he invented. How is that anything but the work of a hack.

>> No.17046050

>>17045292
>He is not the representative of Hololive or any vtuber companies.
No, but Mori, a member of Hololive, is representing him, and is in tacit agreement with his opinions. Which are probably fueled by her drunken private rants anyway.

>> No.17046089

>>17045730
Connor is right because they have 10-20k twitter followers before debut

doesn't mean I won't shit on the talentless ones though (council) and praise the hardworking ones (jp)

>> No.17046142

>>17046089
Ask /#/ how twitter followers correlates to CCVs.
I'm willing to bet it is not a favorable comparison.

>> No.17046152

>>17045969
He doesn't bring this subject on every stream he does. He is not on a crusade against Hololive. Its just a thing he said a year ago and they bring up shit in her livestream. Actually let me ask you something. Wasn't there a rule about not talking about things unrelated to the vtuber/game on the screen? Of course it would upset me if somebody brought this shit up constantly in an unrelated situation. Wouldn't you say that this is just a person with an agenda just trying to start shit up?

>> No.17046155

>>17045623
Nobody outside the Anglosphere gives the slightest fuck about capeshit, rap, your movies, TV and so on. Your control of the media is dead and so is all actual content you once produced. America now produces only propaganda. Essentially, it's something for low tier people. This isn't even a controversial take. You just never paid attention to how deep the erosion of US cultural influence actually is. To put things in perspective I'm in my thirties, and I can accurately judge this purely due to my age. You are barely a shadow of a shadow at this point and to be blunt Japan is the only cultural superpower in the modern world, though even that is fading with nothing to take its place.

You're also blissfully unaware that there's millions upon millions of people like me who refuse to watch or listen any form of US media. You are unaware of this because it's neither a movement nor a "thing" your e-celebs will talk about, but essentially a gigantic number of people has entirely checked out of the US media cage and this continues today. Organically. The last American movie I watched was 300 for instance. That was quite a while ago.

You are under the false impression that your shit is consumed and enjoyed everywhere by everyone because most of us know English, but the cultural force behind English has wholly evaporated and English itself will be superseded or simply stick around as its own language without it being attached to you in any meaningful capacity. "lmao"

Keep on zooming zoomy.

>> No.17046274

>>17022972
let her go anon. its best for everyone.

>> No.17046278

Just saying, what Mori did on Twitter was dumb. But if you are actually angry about it, you're beyond help.

That's all. Peace, touch grass, take meds, etc.

>> No.17046290

I would also "agree" with his one time opinion on something if this made some retards who can't get over one comment get a wake up call. Is it that hard to see that the fucking retard spewed some stupid shit and then moved on. People latch onto this thing like the guy has a vendetta

>> No.17046345

>>17045845
>It's not even a matter of whether Connor is right or wrong: He is validating Mori's own biases about the company she's in, and she's using that to fuel her own imposter syndrome.
That's the worst thing about this. So what if she thinks so lowly of herself. Fuck her.
By extension she's projecting this onto everyone else she works with.
>her Sora I know you busted your ass off for years trying to stay relevant and only by your willpower am I here at all but it was all for naught because we're all talentless hacks!
>hey Watame! want me to do a rap for your song? I'm just here to tell you that deep down inside I think you're a talentless hack because that's how I feel about myself because a balding welsh manlet told me so. What's that? You spent ALL your money and time and busted your ass to try to create original songs? ME TOO! Guess what though, we're both bereft of talent!!!
Inexcusable.
Unforgivable.

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17046367

>>17039987
This guy understands Mori

>> No.17046382

>>17046290
This.

Mori was also wrong to give it attention, but oh well. She apologized and is spending some time off. I'm just looking forward to her next projects, like a well-adjusted fan.

>> No.17046442

>>17046345
Holy schizoroni

>> No.17046445

>>17046382
It feels like the roles are reversed and we are the unicorns

>> No.17046610

>>17046382
It doesn't bother you that by not directly calling this guy out on his shit take, and I don't recall her ever actually doing so, she's lending credence to this
>>17046345
>>17045845
?

>> No.17046729

>>17046345
Reality check here. You are talking about a virtual character on a screen that does tricks to make you give it money. These are not the inventors of gravity,the spaceship or cure for cancer. They are talentless hacks. I'm sorry if the youtube comments hugbox put these thoughts in your mind that sora and her legendary 12 knightscome on, seriously brought together what hololive is today. ITS A COMPANY. WITH ADVERTISERS. AND EMPLOYEES. THEY DON'T HAVE MAGICAL POWERS. ITS A SLEIGH OF HANDS AND WE SUSPEND OUR DISBELIEF TO HAVE FUN.
The company was brought up by employeesThe guys at the offices toonot by the magical protagonist and her unicorns.

>> No.17046794

>>17043413
but alcohol is fine?

>> No.17046821

>>17046152
>He is not on a crusade against Hololive.
Could've fooled me anon. He's not doing it constantly but he's thrown enough shade enough times (it wasn't that one time), him and his lolicon hafu friend, that I think it's bad that someone working for hololive would even give them the kind of day much less bring him up during a hololive stream.

>> No.17046828

>>17046794
Yes, Japs drink like mad.

>> No.17046855

>>17046610
If you think about it. Addressing the unicorn in the room is giving it more power. You would say an unicorn is a fantasy creature if more people wouldn't believe in it's existence Yes i am patting myself on the back for the analogy.And i am hoping you can appreciate it too anon.

>> No.17046966

>>17046821
I think that i have watched more Connor videos than you didi am not flexing. I am just saying that since i enjoy his videos and most people here seem to not enjoy them it is safe to make that assumption and i am pretty sure that he doesn't have any strong PUBLIC opinions on hololive.

>> No.17047004

>>17046729
Your rant is incomprehensible and irrelevant.
I recognize genuine effort where it exists you faggot. To have some psuedo anituber "variety streamer" trash things that I believe required actual effort pisses me off, and yes that involves the back office staff you nog.
Conner trashed everything about hololive by insinuating the admin are so dumb as to let anyone in the door.

>> No.17047018

>>17046155
i share your sentiment but you're ultimately wrong, japan and korea eats up western shit to an obscene point that nationalist movements have grown to address such said worship.

>> No.17047163

>>17046855
She could've avoided all of this if that been her one and only response to the original akasupa.
>yeah he's an ass and I called him out on it -moving on...
but no instead she's gone for who knows how long and this clusterfuck will pollute the board for also who knows how long.

>> No.17047273

>>17046966
or you're just a fag that actually enjoys anitubers and whose opinions and thoughts on the matter are worthless much like yourself

>> No.17047357

>>17047004
>r "variety streamer" trash things
never happened
>pisses me off
schizo
>Conner trashed everything about hololive
he didnt
>insinuating the admin are so dumb as to let anyone in the door.
that wasnt ever said.

Want to be a little schizo? Watch the clip from beginning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy0jqr6KY9Q

>> No.17047451

>>17046966
>i enjoy his videos
Genuine question, I’m not trying to shit on you, what is it about his videos you like?

>> No.17047468

anituber watchers should hang themselves for enjoying ironic weeb content.

>> No.17047548

>>17047357
>m-muh context
doesn't negate what was said
watch it again yourself
and then watch the other stream where he doubles down

>> No.17047623

>>17047004
My rant is what people preach about the hard efforts of the senpais when i reality everybody did what ran through their heads and now somehow it was always part of the plan.
>>17047004
BUT THEY DO LET ANYONE IN THE DOOR. Stop living in your magical world. You don't require special skills to be ADMITTED into hololive. You do require special skills to CONTINUE working in the company/industry. You need to be resilient, you need to find a niche and create content, you need to survive and you need to know how to turd wrangle.
>>17047273
You have no fucking argument. Somebody in this thread is actively trying to show people that their whole rrat is taken out of context>>17047357 but again you people just live in your magical fantasy land where men try to take your pixels away from you.
>>17047451
I really like the ones he does with Chris Broad. I think they play off each other really well. I also like the idea of the awkward western guy trying different stuff from Japan like the whole making a cosplay that he did with Shiho or when he tried to be in a band. You asked for a genuine answer so i gave it to you, sorry if you wanted a bait answer or something.

>> No.17047664

>>17046610
>>17046345
Just go read what people already said about Connor's poorly-worded take. Mori and Connor don't think Hololive members are talentless. Two seconds of searching and a couple braincells should figure that out.

If you are genuinely angry over this, you are not mentally well. Touch grass. Take meds. This shit is unbelievable.

>> No.17047701

>>17047451
Anon is an actual gayfag. Nothing wrong with that cept you know, aids and propagation through molestation, but he should stick to his own board
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.17047800

>>17047623
>BUT THEY DO LET ANYONE IN THE DOOR.
How to spot a tourist. Yes anyone out of the ten thousand applications; you should join holostars en surely you will get in.

>> No.17047892

>>17039987
>was bullied a lot
where did that come from anon?

>> No.17047912

>>17047664
>just go read what people already said about Connor's poorly-worded take
lmao
>go read a fan's interpretation instead of viewing the source direct which is clear and indefensible without a wikipedia entry full of footnotes to try to rationalize things as damage control
ok

>> No.17047975

>>17044400
>Araki
>homosexual awakening
That was blatantly obvious since day 1...

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>>17046290
He did move on and what he said wasn't heinous or the end of the world either and sounds generally like something you'd expect to hear from an ignorant guy who has to (as the host of a talkshow) try to play the know it all. However the sticking point is that Mori decided that this statement truly was a hill to die on over and that isn't worth it.

In essence, Mori sensed (correctly mind you) that people could leverage connor's statement to be a blanket one about Hololive being talentless and Mori did recognize the danger of endorsing that so tried very hard to dispel it initially. However, she both bullshitted her response in Connor's name to compensate but also acted indignant about it saying he didn't have to apologize (when no, he really did have to if Mori was to publicly acknowledge him still because direct shittalking is really not a thing vtuber agencies do to each other and he crossed a line there).

The thing that made it go down the path she did however was that she then got truly, very mad that a longtime fan would dare bring this up that she ranted for a good minute or so about the deadbeat asking that question itself, a red skull (year+) in a member stream, basically asking him to undo himself as a deadbeat. That, seems to indicate that her own coping mechanism with this relation WAS that "no true deadbeat dislikes my hanging with connor, thus it's just all antis and schizo talk" and by addressing proof to the contrary right in front of her face, she validated the possibility that deadbeats might not like the TT/connor relation not only to herself but in front of her closest fans. So with her anger multiplied she herself extended what was a boring timeloop into a direct question of TT/connor vs the fans by comparing that one deadbeat as meaningless next to her TT relation. This naturally brings up "well probably he wasn't the only one thinking that, does that mean she thinks a good chunk of deadbeats are totally worthless then" kind of reflection in the fans and so on. If Mori sensed this she truly showed spite/bad judgment in going and dragging this out further into a fans vs TT thing and that culminated in that tweet that apparently got her suspended, which could be interpreted as "yes I DO value this eceleb more than any of you, even though you're who made me rich and famous and this guy only talks to me at all because of your contributions." That is asking for trouble on a truly large scale.

Now if you think back to the post I was answering, it was originally about just what Connor said. What I'm getting at, is that his original statement is in fact sort of irrelevant, because the real issue is Mori weaponized the connection to him/TT itself as something to spite her fans with. To go pursue this thing herself for almost a week after it started indicated basically nothing but malice on her part hence even reddit had enough and getting them mad is like getting a pack of fluffy bunnies to attack you.

>> No.17048053

>>17047892
Her streams, from her own virtual mouth.

>> No.17048076

>>17047548
Doesnt say anything you imply he said. So yeah it does negate your completely made up narratives about how he "trashed" or "insulted" or said how "you dont need talent" which he didnt say, ever.

>> No.17048103

>>17047623
>You asked for a genuine answer so i gave it to you, sorry if you wanted a bait answer or something.
Appreciate it. I like Chris Broads videos, he actually makes in-depth, well shot and well written content about Japan (other than the videos with Connor where he just eats fried chicken). It just seems that all of Connor content is clickbait trash designed for nothing more than the YouTube algorithm. The only difference there seems to be between him and the thousands of other “I SPENT $1000 ON SHIT!?!?!” channels made for literal children is that he’s in Japan, I wanted to know what exactly was good about it.

>> No.17048144

Jesus, first of all i hope you all sending that "everyone in hololive is "talentless" out of context clip maliciously. Second , i'm pretty sure it was in that same stream but Connor said that him using Hololive as an example of lying on your resume to get a higher paying job was dogshit since Hololive has auditions and training. The sole fact that retards keep getting baited by the same fucking clip is really funny

>> No.17048178

>>17047701
how do you know?

>> No.17048219

>>17048031
>n essence, Mori sensed (correctly mind you) that people could leverage connor's statement to be a blanket one about Hololive being talentless and Mori did recognize the danger of endorsing that so tried very hard to dispel it initially. However, she both bullshitted her response in Connor's name to compensate but also acted indignant about it saying he didn't have to apologize (when no, he really did have to if Mori was to publicly acknowledge him still because direct shittalking is really not a thing vtuber agencies do to each other and he crossed a line there).
Has she ever directly and head on addressed and discounted what he said? Because, you know, that would be the normal thing to do when someone calls the you, your coworkers and the company that made you essentially trash.
"NO" "THAT'S BS".
I don't recall her ever saying that anywhere, maybe I'm wrong. Would've saved a lot of trouble.

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>>17048103
>clickbait trash designed for nothing more than the YouTube algorithm.

pretty much every vtuber is constantly thinking of a way to attract attention (clickbait) You have no leg to stand on

>> No.17048323

>>17047357
>muh schizo
Ur a schizo and other leddit cucks trying to deny the fact connor fah literally said what he said.
Its too late to deny it because Mori already goes on saying he "supposedly apologized.
You people are fucking lunatic, you cant deny the truth, it's already fucking happend.

>> No.17048338

>>17048144
>it was in that same stream but Connor said that him using Hololive as an example of lying on your resume to get a higher paying job was dogshit since Hololive has auditions and training.
do you have a timestamp?

>> No.17048376

>>17048144
>i'm pretty sure it was in that same stream but Connor said that him using Hololive as an example of lying on your resume to get a higher paying job was dogshit since Hololive has auditions and training.
No because Mouse told him to shut the fuck up, he knew nothing outside of what calli told him when that first stream happened. The other time was pure damage control, and it wasn't even particularly sincere considering he didn't apologize

>> No.17048388

>>17048323
>it's already fucking happend.
you cant even support your points without twisting words, you are incapable of just quoting accurately.

>> No.17048396

>>17047701
Stop projecting

Honestly i just enjoy content from both sides in this argument and its infuriating to know that people try to kill people's well being for petty reasons. It reminds me of the whole mandalore/vinny thing where both content had to suffer. Its okay for people to be mad about something but there are others who have other agendas other than the wellbeing of the creator and if Mori doesn't do music/Connor has to deal with this shit then the viewers also pay for this shit.
>>17048103
The thing that you don't know,and understandably so is that he acknowledges he uses the clickbaity titles just for viewership but the actual videos are well made and edited. I understand not liking his content after watching it but judging it by thumbnail/title is a bit bad

>> No.17048475

>>17048235
now post my wife rushia. you won't because she doesn't do random menhera videos more than once per month and the rest is just stream archives. you bitchass nigger choosing the exception and presenting it as the norm kys

>> No.17048545

>>17048338
No , I don't care enough about this shit, dude in in >>17048144 is probably right, it was a while ago. It might've been Mouse who said that or i read that here(about casting and training)

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>>17048475

>> No.17048606

>>17048545
Meant to quote >>17048376

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>>17048475
besides. Anime girl full screen is clickbait by default.

>> No.17048643

>>17048031
>The thing that made it go down the path she did however was that she then got truly, very mad that a longtime fan would dare bring this up that she ranted for a good minute or so about the deadbeat asking that question itself, a red skull (year+) in a member stream, basically asking him to undo himself as a deadbeat. That, seems to indicate that her own coping mechanism with this relation WAS that "no true deadbeat dislikes my hanging with connor, thus it's just all antis and schizo talk" and by addressing proof to the contrary right in front of her face, she validated the possibility that deadbeats might not like the TT/connor relation not only to herself but in front of her closest fans. So with her anger multiplied she herself extended what was a boring timeloop into a direct question of TT/connor vs the fans by comparing that one deadbeat as meaningless next to her TT relation. This naturally brings up "well probably he wasn't the only one thinking that, does that mean she thinks a good chunk of deadbeats are totally worthless then" kind of reflection in the fans and so on. If Mori sensed this she truly showed spite/bad judgment in going and dragging this out further into a fans vs TT thing and that culminated in that tweet that apparently got her suspended, which could be interpreted as "yes I DO value this eceleb more than any of you, even though you're who made me rich and famous and this guy only talks to me at all because of your contributions." That is asking for trouble on a truly large scale.

Now if you think back to the post I was answering, it was originally about just what Connor said. What I'm getting at, is that his original statement is in fact sort of irrelevant, because the real issue is Mori weaponized the connection to him/TT itself as something to spite her fans with. To go pursue this thing herself for almost a week after it started indicated basically nothing but malice on her part hence even reddit had enough and getting them mad is like getting a pack of fluffy bunnies to attack you.
I don't think any other holochuuba, liver or anyone else except some deranged literalwho 2views have done shit like this vs the fans.
The list of disrespect mounts ever higher.

>> No.17048674

>>17048575
w-what the fuck stream archives are clickbait??? the thumbnail she used for her ark is too lewd it HAS to be clickbait you retard

>> No.17048675

>>17048388
>twisting words
Nice projection, you are the ones who keep twisting everything to make everyone looks like paranoid psychos.

>> No.17048679

>>17048235
You’ve chosen the one member in hololive that produces short MMD’s and still the majority of it is actual streams and content. Now compare that to his videos

>> No.17048742

>>17048545
so what you said can be discounted as shit you pulled from your ass and conner's initial sentiment stands
ok

>> No.17048752

>>17048675
>no i didnt pretend he said something he didn't, i did not
srsly?

>> No.17048845

>>17048679
He does what pretty much every successful youtuber is doing and every vtuber tries to do. Youre a schizo and trying to invent something retarded to shit on someone you want to seethe about.

>> No.17048854

>>17048396
I watched some of his actual videos and he mostly just says the word “drip” or other twitch memes whilst acting like a manchild or mentions he’s British and likes tea while occasionally shitting on things in Japan

>> No.17048885

>>17048675
Their mental gymnastics to defend the indefensible, when we can see and hear the evidence from the source over and over is hilarious. They think they work for the MSM lmao

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>>17048752
>literally said what he said
>YOU JUST ASSUME THINGS

>> No.17049041

>>17048854
I concur then. I can't convince you and i don' want to. I just don't like the idea of this whole shit since i really enjoy Calli's music and this whole thing seems to be flamed up by contrarians who just want to cancel somebody for not being to their tastes.The difference between 4chan and twitter just seem to blur right now. Cancelling spreads like a disease

>> No.17049103

>>17048752
Okay, what he said and why do we understand it wrong when even Callie had to say that he APOLOGIZED, how is that supposed to be taken out of context? do we also forget that besides what he said once there's also other things he said in the past and how he acts in general, is that also "taken out of context?
You're literally being a demagog.

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>>17048885
>hear the evidenc
hear that he doesnt say what you say he did? Yes you truly are paranoid schizos.

>> No.17049135

>>17048845
>He does what everyone else is doing
>You’re a schizo and inventing things
Pick one.

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