/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

huh gurachan?

Gura LIVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKN4N7ED3X8

ONION 30K GET

100k watching Hololive now

Onyon 30k.

>>16929379
Looks like it's their own sever. Peace

Holo 115k total. Sunday afternoon primetime

NOOOO SUSAN, DONT YOU FUCK WITH MY MAYORI

>>16929622
Onyan I KNEEL

Did Hoshikawa think that she could fight a 1 on 1 battle with Aqua?

>>16929603
How about our good well mannered neighbor anon? How much they got?

>not the JP ARK server
lord why do these EN bitches hate numbers so much. they need to be unironically managed by Pekora

Koyori lost 80% of her viewers....

why are you doing this to my poor sweet dog...

Please return Mayori's viewers. Don't do this to her now.

>>16929838
Blackout

>>16929792
Wouldn't lag be an issue?

Damn Gura's actually going to catch up to Subaru if she gets a Mori funnel. No chance to beat Aqua though

>>16929778
25k for niji

Why the previous thread got archived so fast?

pashokon...

>>16929999
Bloodbath has begun

>>16929999
Bump schizo. Some retard actually bumps all threads to kill /hlgg/. Other generals that go past bump limit are hit too.

>>16929990
Half of it is from EN kek

>>16929990
14k from nijien. I guess that's their cap during these hours

I can see Aqua getting high views and SC if she commits and reached Master before or after her sololive. It's an ending and a redemption arc to last year's master endurance.

>>16930126
That fucker is STILL at it? I heard about them like 2+ months ago.
>>16930168
It's improved by quite a bit by tapping a market that wasn't really well served, so good on them.

~124k for Holos

>>16929999
(thinly veiled) mumei thread spam

damn gura chat is too fast

>>16928980
It's Aqua's day, other streams don't matter
. But if Gura Ark beats her I'll kneel forever

>>16930303
jesas

Holos and Holo adjacents like Hoshikawa are dominating these time slots. I think Sarah is quite smart alongside Toko for maintaining their relationship with the Holos.

>>16930303
nijibros... where are the tourist for our stream

>>16930337
>Gura Ark beats her
Not even possible if every single Mori viewer transfers over when she ends.

So this is the power of Gura playing a buff game....gonna crush Pekora and Miko while being culled.

>>16930418
watching holos

>>16930454
incoming 20k for her!! + 30~40%

>>16930297
It's improved by quite a bit by tapping a market that wasn't really well served, so good on them.
NijiEN truly deserve this,good for them.

>>16930423
Yea no. Aqua's playing really well, I can see her potentially climbing up to 40k if she can get close to Diamond today.

>>16930454
Its a single POV collab.

>>16930454
It's more like Gura playing a buff game and Pekora playing a debuff game. Pekora hasn't even beaten Gura's Necrodancer stream yet.

>>16930631
B-but that's what I was saying

>>16930635
owl has 500k subs, she's leeching, not contributing

>>16930454
If NA viewers were the one being culled, this ARK stream shouldn't be culled as much considering only nipbros play and watch ARK. Someone should compare her likes and views later

>>16930454

>>16930774
Mumei is not a debuff collab partner

how is miko doing better than yesterday while peko doing way worse

>>16930635
Collabs are debuffs for Gura.

En gold! En gold!

CMON GUWAA GET THAT 20K

Thanks YT, you got it right for once

>>16930769
Oops, mb, looks like I misread.

>>16929984
Not really, unless they were already on a bad connection.

>>16930168
>14k from nijien
It's the overlap from the NijiJP audience. Their cap should be much lower than that, probably around 8k.

>>16930858
Single pov is not debuff and its on her channel.

>>16929990
Sad

on second thought, them starting on a separate server might be better since they're total noobs at this game

>>16930774
Subs don't matter, Mumei is the 3rd/4th highest EN ccv, she's a big plus for a collab.

>>16930957
I love it when you retards just make statements like this without a shread of data.

I don't feel like Koyori could get to 500k now and maybe move it to another stream. She got like 2k subs in 2 hours.

>>16929990
I think it's safe to say that NijiEN didn't expand their viewer base. They're just cannibalizing the audience that's meant for JP.

>>16931023
Dude, she is doing at 8 hours endurance.

Does gawru's ccv freeze? It stucckss on 19k

>>16931023
at the rate she's going she can get it in 4 to 5 hours, she'll be fine
and i'll be here watching

>>16930833
no shit, but virtually none of those viewers are there for mumei, she just needs Gura's pov to be on her as much as possible
Gura doesn't get anything except someone to play with, which is why she doesn't want mumei to stream her own pov and drain ccv

>>16929990
Nijisanji made the mistake of not expanding their EN audience. They should target the western people and not the seaniggers and nips. I think their management just doesn't have any clue on how to properly run a foreign branch.

>>16931111
Mori is ending 20k incoming

>>16931111
It's increasing at about 100 viewers per 5 min.

>>16930811
>>16931111
looks frozen, she gained 10k views in 4 min

>>16931023
This kind of stream is supposed to be an endurance. The fact that holo can get 5k-10k ez in under a day with these stream is ridiculous

>>16931116
me too mayobro, I have my aka ready

>20k
FUCKING FINALLY

20k get

>>16930833
Who is?

Gura 20k get

>>16930418
Anycolor is just incompetently run. They newest branch is cannibalizing on the existing audience instead of expanding it.

this timeslot is strong

>>16931279
>actual JP looking chart
What more proof do you niggers need that:
-EN viewers are getting culled
-it's not the vtuber account, but the viewers who are flagged

>>16930856
She didn't play yesterday retard

>>16931205
>An Indie would kill a bitch for 5k subs in a day
>Holomem just needs to do "Endurance stream for X to get that many
Yea, I can understand why there's so much SEETHING on this board.

>>16930303
This shows that Holos themselves are inclining despite heavy overlaps. Nijisanji should learn a thing or two from them.

>>16931394
oh right, i forgot she cut the stream early, im actually a fucking retard

>>16931372
It's really fucking strong, it hits JP noon, nightowl burgers (let's be honest well adjusted early sleepers aren't the vtuber audience) and EU morning

>>16931023
You think that's bad? Check this one out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va4AzLOxCwQ

>>16931426
Not to mention, this isn't even fucking prime time for JP.
This slot used to be dead last year.

>>16931413
>An Indie would kill a bitch for 5k subs in a day
that's generous. it normally takes them ages if they are not actively pandering

>>16931426
B-but a few bad days should mean that they are reclining and vtubers are dying! YOU PROMISED!!!

>>16931395
? We know that it's viewers getting culled and that EN viewers have been hit harder this round of CCVID.
It's mostly because of that damned Kimono council relay too, but it is what it is, and YT is STILL WORKING ON IT.
Anyone who says it's 'fixed' is a shitposting faggot that ignores TeamYT's own fucking responses.

>>16931473
Jesus, if nothing else, I kneel to the dedication.

Pex queen...I kneel

>>16931372
it helped that a couple of holos decided to grow it, mainly peko and suba

>>16931481
Precisely.
And then they've got a rejuvenated Fubuki and Aqua, Hololive is just way too good of a box.

>>16931488
As I said, would kill a bitch.

>>16931413
There are myriad of indies doing 24/7 streams for days or months just to get to10k to 20k subs. I can imagine the many seethes they have seeing how holo doing these streams just to get that even number kek.
No wonder they got so many antis rumao

>>16931530
I don't think YT are gonna fix it though. Every single one of their recent "we're working on this" replies were also related to the 1 viewer only thing.

Gura 20k I have missed you

I bet niji en gonna spam ark after this.

>>16931530
Gura just gained another 10k views since >>16931195

Pekora and reclining name a more iconic duo.

>>16931722
You and being a faggot.

>>16931530
numbers are back to post dec 2020. the only bug I see is the 1 viewer bug

>>16931749
This.

Don’t look now but Gura has almost 3x the likes as Pekora does…

Gura has almost as much likes as Pekora’s stream has VIEWERS. How many viewers does this shark actually have jesus

>>16931749
Fpbp

Looks like beating Subaru is Gura's current limit. No way to catch up to return-to-apex buffed Aqua

>>16931641
Who knows, if my guess is correct and its relays that really trip up the AI, imagine how bad things will be when raids are available and way more people start to get flagged.

>>16931749
kek

>>16930303
Current concurrent peak is about 126k at 13:48 JST
Unlikely to be reached again unless Mori starts another unarchived utawaku.

my mayori clawed back her 10k....

Holos and Holo adjacents dominating everyone. You've gotta be stupid if you don't pick Holo over Sony and Nijisanji.

>>16931813
ENs leave more likes. Another anon said in a past thread, EN YouTube have been drilling "like comment subscribe" into their audiences' heads for years.

HoloEN doesn't use any third party sites for donations, right?

>>16931892
The Reimu stream losing traction...
NijiEN girls are doomed.

>also
https://youtu.be/AqZEXf9rc9M
Weekly rank in 2h

>>16931963
Dont reply to retards.

Nousagi here, anyone else getting bored of Peko?
It's like she got lazy and her streams lost its soul.
What a shame

>>16931998
Correct. Superchats via Youtube only.

Anything good tonight?

>>16931963

Should have been another 2.9k stream if not for CCVID.

>>16932054
Pakora getting her ass kicked

>>16932022
>Faggot here
ftfy

>>16932054
This being the numbers thread, I recommend what ever has the highest numbers.

>>16931892
>that big power gap between manjisanji and the irrelevant
Being wamen is hard in niji

>>16931963
Wrong. Normal youtube streamers do not have this level of like to viewer engagement.
It's literally. LITERALLY just Holo/NijiEN and HoloID.
What you're arguing at this point is "actually what's happening is that HoloEN/NijiEn/HoloID viewers specifically have developed some bizarre mega like/poll engagement culture.

Holy fuck, ccvid is hitting the Stars hard.

>>16931963
I get that but the discrepancy here is absolutely absurd. I don't think it can be explained by just "culture difference".

>>16932022
dubs of truth

>>16931892
I don't know why, but i though nui socre was in VSPO

>>16931963
Normal western streamers don't get anywhere near the same level of engagement as holoEN.

>>16932054
so far the only things with frames up for 8-9 for holo are chloe(8) and kanata(9)'s utawakus, and watame and fubuki doing a shill stream
can't be bothered to check schedules on twitter

>>16932130
upvoted

>>16932054
https://youtu.be/VkKxLVcwjGI
RISU SING

>>16931963
Japanese content creators also use the like comment subscribe

>>16932143
nah their EN audience probably left them for Luxiem

>>16932268
ohnonononono

Jeez with all the focus on Gura, which is understandable because nobody thought she would be beating Subaru, Pekora, and Miko, but Aqua is going to hit 40k again.

>>16932130
>What you're arguing at this point is
you need to get a refill on that prescription, I didn't say any of that shit, faggot

>>16932268
>Beating out official playoffs with a 'solo to master's challenge'
Sugoi...

>>16932268
GO ONION GO

AQUA IS FUCKING GAMING HOLY SHIT SHE'S SO GOOOOOOD

>>16932268
lol that's sad

>>16931892
>Hoshikawa just up there with the Holos
Either anon didn't realize Hoshikawa is Niji or she gave him a surreal blowjob to pass her as a Holo.

>>16932267
>Risu
>Unarchive
My how long I have waited for this

>>16932346
She actually improved and is playing really well, it's a nice watch.

>>16932346
Anon? She's 9k away from it. She's nowhere closer to 40k than Gura/Subaru are to 30.

>>16932346
Jynxanon...

>>16932158
>>16932184
The ratio of viewers leaving likes can be similar to the rest of EN YT, if you consider that real CCV is much higher than displayed.

>>16932490
She was close, but she needs some more great games to reach it.

have you learned nothing from it's for grown ups anon, you don't have to hope for anything

>>16932429
ANON, NO
YOU CAN'T ENJOY THE STREAM ON NUMBERS THREAD

>>16932267
this is one of the rarest karaoke in Holo and she picks JP prime

>>16932130
>LITERALLY just Holo/NijiEN and HoloID.
Haachama have higher ratio then all of them retard. I hate ENtard so much.

How dp we save Gura bros...

>>16932693
genuine recline

>>16932130
technoblade
https://playboard.co/en/video/1uw9fUQ42-4
80k peak, 118k likes after a day (79k likes when I took ss after his stream ended)
https://playboard.co/en/video/8BDtZFFWPDg
125k peak, 131k likes

>>16932490
She'll get reach it if she gets another (near) champion game since it's getting closer to the evening

>>16932679
You're replying to extreme bait

>>16932268
B-but you forgot the twitch stream...

>>16932429
aaa fuck I'm missing onion gaming for ALGS

>>16932679
Haachama's audience is the same as the EN/ID audience, retard, she should also be at least 50-70% higher in numbers than she currently is

>>16932679
>the JP with a huge EN audience is also affected
really makes you think or doesn't in your case

>>16932143
Nah, Aruran is just that boring
He's had dozens of collabs now, trying to replicate Roberu's style, but he's just really boring so no one stays

>>16932130
Yes it's a cultural thing at this point, people even like streams they don't even end up watching. EOPs do that with JP stuff too so it's not like they haven't benefitted at all, it's just somewhat less prevalent than with the EN branches.

>>16932679
>EOP central holoJP suffers form the same problem
thank you for helping this ENtard prove his point, JPgenius

>>16932737
ludwig is live currently and has at 17k with only 9.9k likes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKxv2tKsJU

>>16932693
>>16932725
Please shitpost responsibly

>>16932807
>it's just EN culture
>meanwhile not a single EN livestreamer is affected outside of vtubers
Hey shit for brains, this is Susan flagging all holoEN watchers and fucking over their numbers

>>16932750
anon...

What is actually the problem with Sana's low sub count?

Is it really because of her dark skin and her 1 month break?

>>16932882
it really depends on the fanbase. holofags, dreamsmp, and kpopfags love to leave like & comment

>last samurais coping so hard they're claiming ONLY holoEN fans have massively higher engagement than any other fanbase on the planet
You love to see it

>>16932973
but then holo jp would have similar like engagement.
the original argument was that holoEN has higher likes due to being english

When there's around 150k viewers for Holos and Nijis and you're only contributing 1k to it, that has got to suck. You guys think she regrets betraying her former friends?

>>16932951
how has she still not beaten that dead channel that hasn't had a stream in a year

>>16933030
Neck yourself already, spic
You're making any form of EN argument seem disingenuous

>>16933030
Didn't you know? 100%+ engagement on polls is normal for all EN streamers.
>>16933096
Not at all. She has more gachis than as an indie/small corpo.

>>16933030
Why would JP fans be coping when Aqua is mogging the shit out of your EN shitters

>>16932933
cope

Gura stream 22k

>>16932951
Bad design outside of just the skin thing, bad, borderline ESL accent, erratic streaming times, when she does stream it's JP time or the middle of the night in NA, huge dead dog break, no specific talent other than drawing which she almost never does, overall boring content. Perfect storm of things that would make people disinterested.

>>16933148
>Gura 18k likes
>Aqua 16k likes
Gura has at least 50k watching her tho?

>>16933125
That's the point. Why do you think someone constantly "argues" by picking up what others say in good faith and adding insults to it? It's fucking shitposting/falseflagging

>>16933096
How can Gura even compete?

>open gura stream
>give a like
>leave
>refuse to elaborate

Sure feels nice being a chumbud. Who watches their oshi anyways

>>16932973
apparently nijiEN will have a kpop guy in the future male wave. They'll incline to the moon

it's getting harder and harder to not respond bros

all me btw

>>16932951
She stacked every single debuff she can on herself intentionally.
She's not good at zatsudan and how could she? She barely streams outside of doing marathons.

Aqua has really high engagement

>>16932951
tomorrow there will be a bunch of gura x mumei clips making the rounds because of all the funny shit they are getting up to right now, so mumei will probably get a sub boost.
Sana doesn't really have anything like that. She doesn't really get any marketing at all, actually. Reccs are the most important discovery vector on youtube and she rarely gets recommended.

>>16932951
Sana is already the most unpopular HoloEN by a wide margin, but she also doesn't stream so she has virtually no subgrowth.

Outside of special streams, fastest way to get subs is clips and Sana doesn't have clips since she doesn't stream.

>>16931892
Nijisanji is a good second choice or even first choice if you like their culture better. Sony is the worst vtuber corpo right now if you only look at the numbers.

>>16933276
>NijiEN
>kpop guy
NijiKR...

The Nijisanji official channel has now passed Kanae in subscribers, making it the 2nd most subbed channel in Nijisanji overall.
Now both the Nijisanji official channel and the Nijisanji English official channel are the 2nd most subscribed channels in their respective branches, just behind Kuzuha and Elira respectively.

>>16933260
>Spicschizo is deliberately making EN look bad
Wtf I love spicschizo now

>>16933096
They weren't her friends, she was there like 4 months and spent half the time streaming on her personal vtuber account. She's already made $25,000 off just her cut of SCs which is more than any of the people in that company make from all their revenue in an entire year. So no, I doubt she regrets it.

similar peak ccv but one has higher like engagement

The funny thing about the whole "likes prove nothing" is how likes were very much used in arguments during CCVid for why a cull was happening.

>>16933365
She had 14k likes on yesterday's stream before she even started because she put up the frame 2 days ahead.
People were HYPED for her Apex return.

I wouldn't be surprised if she has a lot of dislikes too from her antis.

rate these tweet likes numbers
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924

>>16933268
What happened to my shark wife bros? She used to be so strong...

>>16933393
YEP!! Kiara is relatively unpopular too but she still gets featured a lot in clips, gets talked about a lot, and still gets good growth because she streams constantly and for long ass hours. Sana has even worse popularity than Kiara and she never streams on top of it. Gura and Kronii can get away with not streaming super often because they are so fucking popular but Sana needs to take the Kiara approach and she just isn't doing it.

>>16933488
holy shit Mori's brain rental is in full capacity

>>16933526
because they were used in comparison to past streams of the same talent in similar circumstances aka length and timeslot, you have to add those caveats to make likes a usable metric
you can't just hurr they have more likes therefore more people are watching hurr

>>16933582
She's a literal 2view now

>>16933488
Feels like the top one is hours or even a day old and the bottom is taken immediately after the event?

>>16933272
You forgot
>wait for clips and watch them instead

>>16933488
That Miko baby championship stream was kino as fuck.

I'm a chumbud but i think 22k is honestly pretty low considering this is her first ARK stream and gura has a relatively big JP Audience which love ARK, in addition with the potential buff if her promise to coco to play it. Is this still CCVID at work? i predicted at least 30k and i'm disappointed.

>>16933221
>borderline ESL accent
That's just an Australian accent you dumb cunt

>>16933895
ogey

>>16933778
Based, you almost killed him with this reply.

>>16933533
Probably less this time around.
One of the reasons she got so many goddamned island zhang's jimmies rustled was because she was playing so passively last year.
This year she's charging in and calling shots way more, a very marked improvement in mindset and teamplay. Whatever dislikes she's going to get will mostly be from those who dislike her out of habit now.

>>16933554
Isn't that the guy people thought was in this thread the other day? is it you?

The very bad person and member of the loathed gen 2 of HoloEN, also called council, STILL hasn't hit 1 million after a fucking week. All that animation for nothing. Council has one cover and one orison after 5 months. Why do we pretend they deserve to be part of the second biggest vtuber agency in the world?

>>16933554
I'm a fan of Mori roasting cringe SCs, but this is objectively a bad move.
She'll probably delete it later once you gets some clarity.

This is the equivalent of responding to Nijishitty anon.

>>16933895
She's literally overlapping every single other big holo except Marine.

>>16933895
You probably overestimated the ARK tourist count. If you look at the weaker JP holo ARK streams they're only worth a couple thousand. Even less since they won't understand Gura

>>16932951
Lets say you usually watch Ina and never heard of Sana, after a collab you decide to check her youtube channel, her last non collab/event stream is 20 days ago and a pokemon endurance at that, you keep scrolling down and the only her only other solo stream this year is ACNH, would you subscribe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSXAKsq-Vo
3m views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuttYdmPfzU
1.6m views

>>16932951
Sana doesn't care about creating good content. Why that is nobody really knows, all we know is that she intentionally debuffs herself and shows zero interest in growing her channel and that's the result. Can't help but feel a bit sorry for Pako papa

>>16933488
damn, is there a source for that illustration of okayu's sister

>>16933895
For every 200 viewers she gains/loses, she gets 1k+ likes

You be the judge on how many people are not visible.

>>16933952
rrat

>>16933440
They are obviously trying to curtail their talents growth to not let another Gibara, Lulu and Bora from happening again.

>>16933992
>person
I meant 'song.' I'm not sure why I typed 'person'

>>16933921
Bae is also Australian and is completely comprehensible, unlike Sana.

>>16933554

how can mori be so fucking retarded to reply to that

>>16934156
Because you're retarded and just endlessly spam dumb shit into the void all day.

>>16933554
Does she even know the kanokari meme? regardless she's fucking retarded by entertaining the schizo.

>>16934044
>4.6M in 1 month
holy shit that's strong af for an original. Has hololive even have an original this high?

>>16934162
Not only is Bae comprehensible but her voice is down right erotic sex

https://youtu.be/25t4RnPtIrw

>>16933554
holy shit mori, just ignore. how hard could it be

>>16934223

>>16934343
>Has Hololive even have an original this high
Anon, you can't be serious

>Mori's recent Karaoke stream made way more money than her last karaokes (archived/unarchived ones)
>Funny enough, excluiiding the New Years Eve one, gained a bit more of viewers than her Hamilton endurance but got less than her Jazz one.
I feel this shows she is now on Coco/Kson level when it comes to gachis loyalty.
In the sense that if she has another drama her gachis will stay by her side.
unironically I'm starting to belive the rrat that she will leave after HoloFes since is clear she secured some heavy paypigs for her future

>>16933992
because owlfaggots keep shilling their whore in the hopes that they can pass her around the block a bit more, but it's not working because she's boring and "cute tho" is a metric where's mogged by pretty much everyone that isn't sana

>>16934343
Yes. You're supposed to ask does nijisanji have a n original this high instead.

>>16934162
It's a thicker accent but still entirely comprehensible

https://youtu.be/9QCgqQdmr0M

>>16933554
holy FUCK lmao

>>16934440
She will graduate and revive in Vshojo so that she can collab with Mouse and Cannur all she wants.

>>16934440
>Another drama
Anon, there is no drama, only schizo faggot containment breakers from here actually give a fuck.

>>16933440
>all according to The Plan

>>16933554
Literally rent free.
Mori you dumb bitch.

>>16934617
It is drama if mori is actually engaging with the faggot.

>>16933554
Fucking LMAO. Deadcucks have to be facepalming right now, they were almost over this too and Mori dredges it right back up. Bring on the bait threads!

>>16934044
>Twice member recommended
Imagine if they can tap the kpop market, we're gonna enter a new era.. kpop idol vtubers

>>16934444
Being cute is the bare minimum a glorious, unmatched hololiver should be. The fact that she brings nothing else other livers don't already have makes her seem like she's lacking anything of value.

>>16933440
>from 915k to 919k subs
They gained 4k subs from their unarchived premiere last night then since they had chat in sub only mode and 105k people watching.
Not bad.

>>16934767
holo is gonna partner with SM entertainment and launch a virtual girl/boyband agency.

>>16934617
Mori comes on this schizo board and thinks most people are against her when it's really a discord raid and some impressionable globaltards that give a shit. I kinda hope she graduates so we stop getting raided.

Mochimiko JP
https://youtu.be/ZDWVc1m3iZA
620k views 16k likes 415 comments
Mochimiko EN
https://youtu.be/4gJWJyx7I6s
594k views 37k likes 1028 comments

Kai JP
https://youtu.be/oq4ECjFvB7w
400k views 17k likes 410 comments
Kai EN
https://youtu.be/1ZwPR0PwXus
386k views 30k likes 450 comments

There's literally no better comparison than two videos that are exactly the same sans the subtitles.

>>16934774
>liver
Niji...your camouflage reps

>>16933554
>>16934672
Oh the irony

>>16933778
>literally every other streamer on the planet has the same viewers to like ratio
>except holoEN/ID
>"nooooo you can't use likes to measure the real viewership"

>>16934617
The drama was only /here/ and Mori's roommate posted an obviously recent, disheveled picture of herself, meaning she both browses /vt/ and is bothered by what she sees. See the tweet above. I hope one of you faggots is paying rent for all that headspace we're taking up.

>>16934976
Yes it's well noted that EN audiences like and comment more than JP. That's why extrapolating "real" numbers from likes is a dangerous enterprise because like on JP streams are usually only around 50-75% of what they are on an EN stream with similar viewer numbers.

>>16934976
No one's talking about regular video likes, retard, these are literal live viewer metrics.

>>16935043
>literally every other streamer on the planet has the same viewers to like ratio
ん?

>>16935043
Literal fucking cope.

Koyori still holding strong but poor Noel

>>16934945
one of their girl group (aespa) has 3d avatars, looks like shit tho. You may be on to something

Thank you Mori for giving us a chance to have another Graduation this year to challenge the Dragon.

>>16935134
>EN culture likes and comments more cope
Wrong, see >>16932882

koyori report, she's at +3k subs at almost 3 hours, prob 3 hours more

>>16935168
Wait what differentiates a "regular video like" from a "live viewer like"? Because the point still holds. More live viewers in EN will click like than JP viewers, and that's an easily demonstrable fact.

>>16935012
Cope, owlcuck

>>16933554
well the context of the meme is that the deadbeat is actually imagining being cucked, so it's kinda accurate.

>>16935012
lol

>>16935276
How does that prove anything? The argument was that EN audiences tend to like videos more than JP audiences. Just pointing to a stream and saying "It should have more likes" doesn't show anything. Nobody said every EN viewer hits like, only that they hit like more often than JP audiences.

HOLY SHIT AQUA.

>>16933554
Holobros, I think we secured a contender for 2022 gold against nijikoshien

>>16935346
It's pure fucking pottery, even before the fact that the brapper's replying to it

>>16934062
>drop in
>leave like
>start watching
>realise how fucking boring ARK is 90% of the time
>tab out/watch other videos

>16934440(Me)
>See this
>>16933554
Did I say paypigs?
Excuse me, I meant RETARDS who will support Mori no matter what kind of shit she will do.
She truly is not aware in the situation she is now.

EN/ID cucks still coping with "m-muh ccv!"
Face it. Irrelevant side branches are irrelevant.

>>16935270
If she did I don't think it's going to be nearly as fond of a sendoff. Even though Coco left to do what she wanted and not have to pay Cover a cut, the whole China thing gave it an air of martyrdom. Won't get close to 500k.

>>16935498
I wonder how retarded you must be to believe this is real human behavior.

>>16933554
>
isn't this a cuc(k) meme? I knew holobronnies were into that shit rumao

>>16935346
being cucked by connor
/hlgg/ made it to shit on the deadbeats
This shit is too funny, can't believe Mori of all people made my day
>>16935538
She is, that's the best part. She's been fucking seething about it for a week and replied to a 5 day old post.

>>16933554
Now this is a stupid move.
>>16935414
Kek.

>>16933554
>https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924
Mori,what the fuck?cant you just ignore it?

>>16935606
>>>/jp/38297071
it's just a nijifag creation from jp

>>16935291
>Wait what differentiates a "regular video like" from a "live viewer like"?
That they all happen within the timeframe of several hours instead of accruing over time. Hell just look at your own example: the first EN video has 37k likes for an entire year. A fucking year! Gura has 21k likes for 2 hours and still going. And the difference between JP live likes engagement and the video engagement is just as ridiculous, clearly showing you can't compare stream likes vs video likes.

>>16935346
Calli literally doesn't watch anime or read manga besides jojo so this is a hard cope

>>16935784
she does browse /a/ though...

After this Aqua stream I might pick up Apex. How does it compare to CSGO/TF2? Easy to pick up?

>>16935756
It was from /jp/?
I think this might be the first time I kneel to modern /jp/

>>16933554
missing the beret.

>>16935864
Not enough for her to know of the origin of the meme, just for her to know it's about getting cucked

>>16935888
Is a battle royale anon, different than regular CS:GO and the two TF2.
And NOTHING like Titanfall outside the pilot habilities now spread on the characters.

>>16935762
It doesn't matter if you're comparing like for like

>>16934976
Bother the JP and EN videos have been up for an almost identical amount of time. It's entirely valid to compare the engagement rates and draw conclusions, especially when those are only two examples. I can grab the EN and JP version of just about any animation like this and compare the two and the EN one will have proportionally more likes for the views it has than the JP version.

>>16935888
Easy to pick up but this is much fast paced than csgo. If you can handle csgo's spray then you can beam midrange too after a few practice

>>16935888
FUCK she is really good!

>>16936041
Didn't think about battle royale format. Was too engage on watching how good her movement is.

>>16933440
>+666
King, were you cursed the entire time? Since you got mogged by the real Banpire, everything has gone downhill for you...

>>16935888
It's pretty fun. The characters are all fugly though.

>>16933221
>borderline ESL
No, it's anti-ESL.
And I love her for it. It's such an adorable accent.

>>16936102
>It doesn't matter if you're comparing like for like
Why not? Its not the same thing at all, so using it to prove your point is dumb. Even if it proves EN likes more in general, it doesn't prove that the CCV to like ratio is normal in any way.

>>16935414
>we secured a contender for 2022 gold against nijikoshien
No graduation

>>16932951
she's too fucking loud, similar to ollie.

fuck. if she had stayed alive for just a little bit it would be 40k but the game was tense

>>16936502
You're the retard who didn't understand how percentages work, aren't you

>>16936508
>similar to Ollie
Ironic since Ollie might surpass Moona to 1 mil subs despite starting way behind.

>>16936398
In fact, you want a real borderline ESL english accent? The fucking scousers speak what sounds like a whole different language.

Stop arguing about View/Like ratio. Start calculating Mori's Graduation numbers, will the views or SCs even be half of Coco?

>>16933554
IMAGINE BEING A DEADBRAP LMAO

>>16936584
Oof

>>16936792
i can't fucking wait for the graduation was culled and actually it was higher than cocos timeloop

/thread/

I've seen that tweet guy before, is he the "condom money" superchatter?

>>16936792
I think it might hit 200k, 500k will never happen again. SC wouldn't be as high either.

>>16936792
No way, Coco's graduation was far beyond vtubing. Also why do we think she's graduating when she's just having a menhera attack from browsing the "boards" too much?

>>16936940
>esl, likely a seaschizo
unlikely to sc

>>16936930
Kek

>>16936940
>>16937025

>>16933554
>baited by a kfp schizo
mori pls...

>>16936940
different guy, the guy who posted the tweet has been posting containment breaking stuff since en started
https://twitter.com/the_new_ones/status/1313527804986757122

Okay this cull shit is getting ridiculous

>>16935762
They're uploaded at a very similar time. >>16936102
Kai's past 5 animation uploads:
>JP
EN
>329k v 12k l
277k v 25k l
>275k v 10k l
97k v 9.5k l
>689k v 41k l
232k v 23k l
>259k v 10k l
153k v 15k
>461k v 22k l
223k v 25k l
EN predominately likes more than JP. I'm just sick of the "look at this Gura has more likes than Miko despite having less CCV so we should scale them to get the true CCV" garbage.

>>16936463
the glue eater queen is back

>>16937075
She's still ratio-ing the retard, but if she didn't bring attention to it, there's no way that artwork would get the 300 likes it has right now.

J-chad ffs do your damn job and control her social media.

>>16936792
She's doesn't have remotely as many connections to the other members as Coco. So there probably won't even be a tour month. If there will even be a 3D Live, it'll probably be a week from announcement.
On the other hand, it'd be the first EN graduation and Mori does have a lot of normie fans that doesn't usually watch streams (or clips even). I'd guess it's be about 200k-300k CCV peak. SC wouldn't be nearly as much 100k USD tops. Views would probably be as high or higher than coco however

New numbers record: first holo to actually be downvoted on r/hololive

The Mori Graduation thing is just my shitpost, but I prefer something fresh over the fucking time loops.

>>16937251
Jchad is sick anon. Poor Jchad though, gonna chewed out by the higher ups after recovering

KR indies and nijiKR

>>16937522
SHE DELETED IT LMAO

>>16937189
>I'm just sick of the "look at this Gura has more likes than Miko despite having less CCV so we should scale them to get the true CCV" garbage.
Good try but you're not going to convince Last Samurai schizo that Gura's numbers are anything less than a conspiracy against her.

>>16937522

>>16937759
Gura isn't piping up about it so she's in on the conspiracy. I wonder how much Youtube pays her to shut her up.

>>16937522
Mori is the gift that keeps on giving.

Lets go Koyori almost there!!!!!

>>16937854
I mean too late, the schizos know she care enough to go on twitter/reddit and cry about it

kek what a disaster for Calli

>>16937979
the chat's been trolling her about the right side of the playlist combining with the left side and her reaction was really funny
id say she has around 2 hours to go, could be more

>>16937899
Gura wouldn't care even if it was real.

>>16937582
>Mori's manager is Ill, Mori goes off the rails
Fucking hell, that makes sense, but poor Jchad doesn't deserve to have to handle this idiot that should know better than this by now.

>>16937854

The viewer retention for ARK is fucking scary

>Taking a break
Graduation RTA any %

>>16938006
How do I make sure the schizos don't forget this achievement? Ritual post?

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640
Mori got suspended, no more numbers for you.
Less HoloEN views.
Guess the numbersthread wins.

>>16938265
yeah wtf

>>16938006
This, show one bit of weakness and these animals will be down your throat. Why do you think Aqua antis still hound her so bad? Because they know they're having an effect. I really wish livers on Calliope's level just stop ego searching on internet slums like this schizo board and twitter.

>>16938316
She's been streaming for more than 18 months at this point. She's no Hitomi Chris.

>>16938439
tournament dead?

>>16938439
The sacrifice needed for niji's cancellation. Ngl not a bad trade at all

>>16938316
>graduation
I won't be suprised if this is what's bothering her. She's still promoting her pl, recently on her friend's channel

>>16938439
Far from being a bad thing. The problem is that the board will get shittyas all hell for a long while now. Even more so when Jannies side with Calli no matter what.

>>16938439
good

>in 30min
https://youtu.be/AqZEXf9rc9M

>>16938518
Just don't antagonize your paying clientele by ruining the character you're playing.
If you want to play at being a strong I.dependent woman who can make her own decisions, don't break down and sob for pity when you get pushback.
Can't shit? Get off the can.

>>16938439
WE DID IT /vt/ !!!

>>16938439
reminder to not touch your work phone when drunk

>Mori Mori Mori
Go somewhere else sisters, there are 50 threads in the catalogue about this.

>>16933554
Is Mori having a mehera arc ?

>>16938614
Depends. If she's going to get suspended for more than a week instead of just 'suggested to take a nice 3-5 day break to cool her heels' then the tourney is dead, since it's scheduled for the 29th.

>>16937189
If only HoloEN likes don't match the prevailing worldwide pattern even for VODs then it's pretty clear that their VODs are also getting culled if you want to be logical and not just act like a tribalist jpnigger

>>16938439
lmao holoen more like just gura and friends

>>16938841
Eat shit, cuckbeat

Laplus body inspection at 1900, can she beat Gozaru?

>>16938439
is really more than half of holoen in not streaming/barely streaming mode for next week
jesus man

Holos and friends are handily destroying their competition even at this hour.

>>16938926
If she's suspended officially, wouldn't cover release a statement like they did for Coco and Haachama?
Sounds like she just realized no one liked what she did and needed a few days to chill out.

>>16938439
Jesus,
HoloEN is really dying.

aqua reaching diamond a big thing in apex?

>>16938439
>Almost every HoloEN won't stream next week
HoloEN is a disappointment

>>16939033
Frame it in terms of numbers you dramanigger.

Like, she was planning on releasing Q on the last week of January right? If she's not able to promote it that's bad for numbers. Same with the potential loss of the pokemon tourney.

thread talking about Mori's yab
no one notice fact need 1k views to 1m

>>16939118
nose...

Alright I been watching Pekora number for weeks now and it seem her new absolute floor is around 15-16k.

>>16939162
She reached diamond 1 a year ago already.
It's Master or bust (according to her).

>>16939126
Cover got a lot of fucking shit for the Haachama/Coco thing. They haven't officially suspended anyone since. Even the Miko/Marine doujin shit was them "taking a break".

>>16939126
It's a soft suspension with a pretense of a break

Mori talking about doing Lean on her official account...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_(drug)

>>16939126
If she was capable of realizing that, this tweet wouldn't have happened when the yab was basically buried. This was obviously management's call, either jchad or someone else.
My money is it was a strong suggestion from jchad and not management telling her to fuck off for a while, so she'll just lay low for a bit and isn't suspended.

>>16939162
aqua is aiming for master now, she used to be diamond 1 if i remember correctly

>>16939162
It means she can't de-rank below Diamond.
This is now the new 'floor', when before bottom of plat was the floor.
This is also where the real fighting begins, because from this point on she's going to be playing against Diamond+ and potentially masters players.

mayori at 1.5k subs from goal
after 3h and 40m she's gained around 3700 subs

>>16939196
Nice. I'll go give it mah daily reps, it's a good song.

>>16939118
what competition lmao

>>16938701
I love h9ow much this lad inclined. I'm not sure who shilled him here or if it was himself but the niche is popular enough to get filled. I wonder if it will get to a point where premieres were 4.4k CCV for the old guy.

>>16939189
Here's the numbers: management AND other ENs are fucking tired of getting caught in her shotgun shart that's getting shit smeared in their SCs and chat, not just Mori's. Everybody's done with her making trouble for the entire branch and she just.got soft suspended, in real time. Fucking cunt.

>>16939196
good song, well deserved for twappers

>>16939506
It was probably you anon. His format is good so i prefer him than the rest of them that got shilled /here/

Only Gura can carry HoloEN now imao

KEK the reddit mods deleted the Mori post.

>>16939718
Gura's popularity has always carry holoEN hard even tho she doesnt stream a lot

>>16939681
He basically took over the old bloke's format for the most part, carrying on his work since he had to find actual work.
Hence why most of the old viewership is now watching him.

>>16939754
most likely she deleted it herself

Someone in Koyori's chat said she was trending. I can't find evidence of this.

>>16939868

>>16939843
Last I checked, he credits the old guy too in his description for inspiration

>>16939718
>now
Used to Mori/Gura/Ame, but I guess gura's just worse at self destruction than the other 2 because they actually succeeded.

gura and mumei are fucking monsters...

>>16938737
or just simply stop interacting with human shit like Connor and vwhores. It's that simple.

>>16939318
Mori deleted the tweet where she said she was doing lean. (Japanese cough syrup has codeine)

at this rate Marine will be the top holo

>>16940359
the power of shorts...

>>16940290
screencap/link to archive?

>>16940359
>have to remove Gura (and Mori kek) because he knows it's impossible to catch up to them
yes the "top" holo
Inb4
>b-but muh CCV
then Pekora is already the top holo

Prepare to be beaten by Choco again Gawr Gura!!!
https://youtu.be/UnyuiAl7kfA

>>16940290
I still see it though. holy shit mori, not like this.

>>16940088
They all do that, and they're all whores, what they get paid to do is pretend they aren't for at least a few hours a day in front of an audience, they even have a mask to do it behind. But apparently most can't do even that. Especially Mori.

>>16940290
..I have no words about her anymore. I understand she wants to be a wigger but at the same time you are under the holo brand. At least wait until you become independent.

>>16940560
sorry I don't really pay attention to non-jp

>>16940560
what's a holoen

>>16940560
That's the joke, "'EN ded"

>>16940571
s-sensei!!

>>16940290

>>16939962
I wonder when trending on twitter becomes old hat for former 2views. I mean she has trended world wide for like 5 hours straight during her debut.

>>16940648
So you're mentally ill? The very website you screenshoted shows them on top. What, you jut bury your head in the sand?

>>16940515
Its not on the Hololive subreddit but some saviour linked the post to VirtualYoutubers subreddit so people can still see it KEK.

>>16940359
Pekora where’s your numberfag spirit? Are you really willing to let someone lapping you so easily?

>>16940883
this is what it looks like for me, I don't have them ticked in the options I guess

>>16940571
Fuck, stop chocosen!
not on the day gura first time playing ark!!