/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

At least Selen's views are deserved.

>>16849877
Cope dragoonkek

Men are superior to women.

>>16849942
I hope hololive releases homos EN and steal all your viewerbase.

>>16849986
This.

>>16850056
More like steal more of Sleen's LOL

>>16850056
Kys.
I rather have manjisanji mogging Hololive day after day than having males in Hololive.
Homostars were a mistake and so is Mori and Ollie

>>16850201
Fuck off fujo
Die in a fire
>>16850268
They're not even mogging you, they're mogging US
At least you can admit that our girls have put in effort and what these talentless fags have is nothing.
Even leeched from the girls cause they have no content of their own and now they're acting like that.

>>16849808
Manjisanji is real. The NijisanjiEN guys surpassing the girls isn't surprising at all except for fags who don't pay attention to Niji at all (which is most anons, specifically Holostarfags).
>>16850056
I doubt it. They need an anomaly like Gura or a big name to do so but its Niji if you want to watch guys and Holo if you want to watch girls.

>>16849808
I'm laughing my ass off at all the NijiEN faggots who have been spamming this board for months. Your dumb bitches have been reduced to male accessories just like the NijiJP girls. Your shitty Pomu and Selen are now second class citizens and it cracks me up. Hope you enjoy Manjisanji fuckers.

>>16850497
>anomaly like Gura
No thanks, I actually enjoy watching streamers who give a shit about going live

>>16849808
He still needs to pass Finana before Elira

>>16849808
and still nobody here is going to watch any of them while nerds keep watching Selen and others, probably less since they started collabing with homos though.

>>16850588
Yeah we know. Enjoy your HoloEN girls as long as you can, because HolostarsEN will soon be knocking on your door too.

>>16850751
is this the final level of holocope?

>>16850441
Get mad LOL

>>16850751
>nobody here
oh noo not the 200 anons... how will vox ever recover

>>16849808
I hope Vox surpasses HoloEN gen 2

>>16850588
>Hope you enjoy Manjisanji fuckers.
We do!

>>16852563
he won't
not enough appeal

>>16849808
His viewers are like 90% Chinese and Japanese girls with some Korean/SEA in there too. The support comes from the fact Nijisanji already has millions of fujo fans in Japan so they are the base from which the other Easterners come in.

That and the fact kpop was basically banned in China like 2 months before they debuted and tons of mainland chinese girls have been branching into alternative. Tons of those NTD """taiwanese""" viewers are mainlanders on VPN, they almost all use Taiwan to connect to the outside world (this is what caused coco taiwangate in the first place, a mistaken impression Taiwan itself is doing all of it when it's taiwan+mainland).

This is a strange kind of success, definitely not what Anikara had in mind. Objectively they haven't actually taken on much in the West like it or not, so people saying they'd fail thinking as in the West (and that the east wouldn't give a shit) were right. However the Eastern audience totally propped them up. This is a win the same sense as saying David Hasselhoff is one of the best singers ever because, for some reason, Germany loves him as a musician. I guess that rings true if you're a German, but in the US nobody would say that.

It also IMO does not bode well for any attempts Cover would have at a starsEN because it's literally asking China to come watch Cover talents and otherwise tapping into the utterly massive pre-existing holostarsJP fanbase that gets all of like 200 viewers a stream. They can try but this is a strange case of right place/time for Luxiem I think and I dunno if it'll continue as a trend. To me this Chinese audience that is like 40% of Luxiem's support right now are like 2019 Western Hololive fans, they love the idea and content but would more naturally gravitate towards something in their own language.. and eventually a native CN company (or taiwanese rather to avoid the super-restrictive mainland laws about vtubing) will distract this newfound audiences' interest, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Get fucked, chinsans.
Vtubers belong to the fujo now.

>>16852924
>native CN company
Literally already exists as a vague attachment to Nijisanji, Virtuareal/Virtustar. Bilibili users who are restreaming Luxiem streams there are going against actual NijiCN

>>16852563
He will surpass Sana easily. He will eventually slow down. Just what will his sun's be when he finally levels out? 300k subs? 400k? I don't know. The only thing that is known is that he is in his way to be number one subbed next month. Mysta will eventually over take all the girls as well.

>>16853040
nah, it will become common knowledge that mysta is a pedo and he'll get cancelled

>>16853113
I'm sure the guy who gets a metric fuckton of shota art will be cancelled for being a loli connoisseur. Aaaaany moment now...

>>16853113
Nice rat, did you birth it yourself?

>>16853209
yeah cause it won't be his chink women that cancel him
gotta make sure all of twitter knows that nijisanji has pedophiles

>>16853113
>>16853209
Cancellation does not exist.

>>16853367
NijiEN already did a watchalong of NJU while laughing at Kenmochi being a massive lolicon live on stage, give up already

>>16853489
kenmochi is a jap that works under nijijp
mysta is a pedo flip that works under the en branch

pretty weird how women are suddenly fine with pedophiles

>>16853113
>Lazulight will be lost into 2view hell
>Obsydia will cannibalize Luazlights viewers any day now
>Ethyria will collapse the branch with too many livers
>Men won't happen
>Men will be sub 500 views and be carried by the girls
>The men will kill the female livers audience
>Vox is a pedophile, he will be canceled any day now...
You are here
>Mysta is a pedophile and will get canceled

>>16853585
Women are fine with hot men or men with status doing bad things. You have neither.

>>16853809
good thing he is a shitskin flip
actually i'm starting to wonder how his neighbors would feel if they knew they have a dude that jerks off to little girls living near them
good thing that the actual pedo doxxed himself the hardest

>>16853747
All i've gathered from /vt/ now is that if you're a popular female then you're a whore and if you're a popular male then you're a pedophile.

does that sound about right?

>>16853906

>>16853585
>>16853906
You're that sanalite from Twitter who tried to cancel him while also having Kiara dox on your page, then selfposted, aren't you?

>>16853906
Take meds.

>>16853988
>twitter
holy shit
no i'm not a retarded fujoid like you
or fagoid, same thing really

this pic is literally on his twitter

>>16854131
You type like a twitter harpy. You're not fooling anyone.

>>16849808
Nijisanji appear to have cracked the EN male code - the novelty gives them a massive first mover advantage.

>>16854422
EN male code = not having EN viewers.
Genius.

>>16854131
What a fucking chad. Subbed.

>>16854479
I know this is a hard concept for Americans, but people can learn more than their native tongue.

>>16853031
Honestly China has over a billion people, the consumer base is huge and can afford competitors. There’s a reason why every corporation and their dog wants a slice of the Chinese market.

>>16854575
>People should appeal to a market that doesn't exist instead of a market that does
Really makes you think
Do all women have logic as shit as you or are you just especially retarded?

At the end of the day I'm happy for you. You are debuffing your own girl streamers and once other corps start pandering to the chink girl market, you are dead
In fact, knowing niji, you retards will release another wave very soon so you cannibalize each other even more.

>>16855178
Incoherent frothing.

What's Vox's hook?

>>16855712
Deep voice daddy British male who will talk about FNAF for 15 minutes straight if something reminds him of it, i.e. seeing a stoplight or the color purple.

>>16855670
Yeah yeah, you have no counter-argument.
Your girls are dying and your "golden goose" only brings you like 23k viewers.
Basically you get mogged and are playing with peanuts.

>>16849808
all the new niji en boys are so cringe and unfunny.
I'm kicking myself for putting off applying for it until it was too late.
They would be funnier if they didn't feel like they try too hard

>>16855830
I can't believe men have mind broken /#/s this much.

>>16855803
if female
>win face genetics lottery
if male
>win deep voice genetics lottery
its that easy

>>16855178
>>16855830
Are you guys feminists or trannies, your hatred of men is so weird.

>>16855872
Stay irrelevant. The best shit you have is still worse than council and no one even watches them.

This guy isn't even good.
Its literally just a bunch of asian girls soaking because a guy with a british accent is talking and they are all shipping him with themselves or a boy. Its disgusting. Lets not even get started on the gays...

>>16855872
they've been repeatedly mind broken over and over again this past couple of month, with the ccv culling and men chuuba doing decent

>>16856050
... so like all the HoloJP girls but with the sex reversed?

>>16856020
>They are irrelevant
>So don't mind me having a melt down over this irrelevant thing

>>16855969
>Debuffing your own talent is considered good
The mind of a femcel is incredibly lacking in logic, that's for sure.

I'll just stick to 2views. At least they're not contractually obligated to collaborate with faggots.

>>16856218
Yeah, they'll just do it out of their own free will.

>>16856098
You're still get destroyed by hololive in every relevant metric and are losing popularity in Japan.
I guess you don't actually care about nijien and are here just to shitpost as the seanig you are

>>16850497
>specifically Holostarfags
... you do know there's quite a bit of overlap between both fanbases, right?

>>16856124
>>16856605
t. iToddler, Marvelfag, Netflix subscriber, etc

>>16856825
Eyup, you're definitely a seanigger newfag.

>>16856605
>You're still get

>>16856876
>You're still get destroyed
And you're calling me a seafag? LOL

>>16856946
Yeah, you're definitely a SEAfag.

>>16855178
No girl is being "debuffed" by Luxiem lmao because their fanbase is almost entirely new viewers and the girls' viewers stayed entirely the same even if they overlap with the dudes' streams

>>16856605
>Numbers this
>Numbers that
You're the one that cares the most about it, like all of your kind in /#/s. You even shift from EN to JP. What are you, employed by Cover to explain your holy crusade to crush Nijisanji? How long have you guys been doom posting Niji EN? You wouldn't be this rabid mad if you didn't have fear in your heart. In the mean time keep blowing off steam here while I listen to Nene and cook something up and I'll get back to you.

>>16857075
what;s she cooking

>>16850588
The board’s been spammed by Unicornfags and ‘traders’ from Holo.

>>16857075
Holy based

>>16857075
Cause this is a business and numbers are a pretty good measurement of success.
Hololive mogs Niji in JP too, though. Your girls are already reclining and the thing you're all shitposting so much about is literally nothing.

I guess it's part of the niji condition to want your own chuubas to end up as 500views. Pretty cringe ngl
Can't wait for you nijifags to cry how hololive is the one that fucks over their talents like you did a year ago.

>>16854784
And the only corporations the Chinese government wants are the ones they control.

>>16849808
Design carries HARD. And vox is a 10/10

>>16857414
I dare you to name the content of 1 single HoloJP or EN stream in the last week that isn't in a clip.

>>16849808
They are the final yab. The inclusion of women into vtubers is a massive mistake there's no returning from. They will destroy vtubers as a whole as women take over and forever change it to fit their shitty tastes.

What's worse, having a fanbase full of rabid women or male simps.

>>16857967
Maybe people don't want to clip Niji cause of attitudes shown in the OP? Shitting on your own coworkers is just so quintessentially Niji.
I guess the only thing NijiEN has going for it is "fuck hololive" instead of, you know, hey check out our streamers they're pretty good.
That kind of attitude won't get you far long-term.

>>16858436
The former, it seems like. They're willing to shit on everything just to prove a pain. What's that point? I don't know Kuzuha and Kanae already showed that males can be successful and pull big numbers but hey, fuck Selen, Elira, Pomu and all the others. Vox Vox Vox!
This is gonna be the selene girls all over again, mark my words.

>>16858444
I said Hololive, not Nijisanji. Do you know how to read?

>>16858687
prove a point*

>>16858687
>fuck Selen, Elira, Pomu and all the others. Vox Vox Vox!
In what thread, other than /tribal/, is this sentiment being said? No one even liveposts about Vox anymore.

>>16858726
Oh. Iroha's weekly singing today. Half the girls' ARK streams. Marine played pokeymans.

>>16858801
Literally the OP. Sure you can say it's tribalfagging but Niji isn't exactly in a position to do that shit with itself. Whole lotta tribalfags these past days posting this kind of shit.

>>16858954
Did you watch any of them? Or did you just look at the thumbnail?

>>16849808
He's getting a female audience the others don't. It's better to measure female chuuba vs female chuuba.

>>16857119
She's doing a karaoke. I was just going to listen to her as I cleaned my pan and then cook something up quickly.
>>16857414
You said the men will kill the girls viewership. Scratch that, you spout a lot of things and jump from subject to subject. Let me tell you, the girls typically didn't garner this viewership months ago on collabs that would split up the growing fan base. All you've been doing is huffing and puffing as you move goal posts and switch subjects. If you went back to your hug box in /#/s you probably wouldn't be this angry.

>>16850751
>nobody here
Oh Nyo

>>16859052
I watched Iroha, Marine and Choco this week. Gonna catch up on some good miko stuff and the gartic phone collab over the weekend.
What exactly are you trying to prove here?

>>16859125
oh i can't read

>>16859178
So can you say anything that happened in those streams other than the content of their thumbnails? Anything at all? Name 1 thing from Iroha's chat about her health.

>>16858954
And what did they do? I can at least put a simple sentence like Pomu digging down in a cave with spelunking in Mineceaft today rather than focusing on building, or Petra continually failing to get up the stairs section in Getting Over It until near the end.

Was Marine breeding? Still going through the gyms? Elite 4? Preparing for a Hololive Pokémon tournament? I can look at Pekora's thumb nail right now saying she is playing Dragon Quest VIII, but what is she doing in it? That's something someone that watches streams would be capable of verbalizing.

>>16857414
>measurement of successes
This isn't a investors meeting, no one here gives a shit about what company is successful or not. Go apply for a position at cover if you really want to work on their successes.

>>16859267
>>16859316
sure took a while, guess he's actually tried watching it

>>16858444
Let me spell it more clearly to you, retard. That anon is calling you a threadwatcher who doesn't actually watch streams and only uses Holo to tribalfag.

>>16858003

>>16859675
If it got him to actually sit down and watch the streams instead of whining about numbers being the only merit of vtubing, then good.

>>16859675
I'm not that person, they have yet to respond. I was just driving your point home.

*fujoing intensifies*

>>16855850
Lol youll never get anywhere, you shitstain. You wont even make it in Homostars so dont feel all high and mighty

>>16861085
ok

>>16853747
damn it feels good being a nijiCHAD

>>16849877
yeah, I remember when Selen was scraping by with double digits. she past 100k subs and broke the 1,000 average viewer mark thanks to her hard and dedication!
oh wait, she was handed those things by association thanks to the foundation that Lazulight laid down.

I'm getting secondhand embarrassment from amount of seething and cope ITT.

instead of seething why not get your male indies to apply for hololive? Ais Riale would wipe the floor with fujo juices.

>>16857414
Why are tribalist fags like this?

>>16853747
It's fucking hilarious.

>>16849808

HoloEN grabbed males first. Now NijiEN grabbed women. The funny thing is that while HoloEN keeps slowly dying NijiEN both male and female are inclining harder and harder.

>>16863197
Yagoo's traditional japanese idol mind prevented him from committing to males first and now cover will never recover.

>>16857414
You poor thing cope fried your brain.

>>16852624
Based lad.

>>16854784
China is a gigantic debt trap now though

>>16863197
>>16863236
It's not even about the male thing. It's because people are gradually realizing that Hololive is so restrictive and draconic while Nijisanji is the company of freedom. People have had enough of Hololive's bullshit and are finally moving on.

>>16863236
Not even that. It's EN management. HoloJP collabs with indies and Nijis all the time and generally do whatever they want. HoloEN feels like some fucking concentration camp. I love Gura but I stopped watching even her since every stream she sounds half dead.

>>16863236
It's more on EN management's fault and they seem to be slowly starting to change things.

>>16863430
They are in far better shape than any western economy. Covid murdered western economies.

>>16863477
Pretty much, it's hard to really look at Holo EN when you've already seen what's outside its walls.

>>16863477
I watched some HoloEN and they speak like they're talking to babies. Especially Amelia. They need more casual talkers.

>>16864349
If you watched their PLs they weren't like that. Hololive just imposes a lot of rules on them so they all have to follow a certain etiquette

>>16849808
>Selen was considered one of the biggest breakout successes in Nijisanji
only dragoons thought this lmao

>>16865074
objective numbers prove you wrong

>>16863479
>>16863616
Agreed. I watch pretty much everything and if there's one thing that infuriates me is this autism both HoloEN and NijiEN have against collabing. Their JP counterparts do it all the time and there's already a few pairs that would make for an amazing stream together (like the mythical Pomu/Kiara collab), but this retarded rivalry isn't the doesn't the talents themselves nor the audience that just wants to have fun and doesn't care about numbers.

>>16865602
*isn't the best for the talents themselves
Well shit I'm not playing TF2 while shitposting here next time

>>16862434
It's mad how much of a prat these pikeys are innit

>>16862434
I don't think I've seen this amount of seething for this amount of time on any of the boards I've been on. This is glorious.

>>16864349
>>16864828
Moreover, if you watched Ame early on, just randomly click one of her early streams and you'll see that she wasn't always like that. At some point she must have realized the kind of people in her chat and changed her behavior to cater towards them.

He's not bad looking at all. Shame his girlfriend's horse-faced bimbo

>>16871328
I cannot imagine how that voice can come from that

Doxfags are cancer

British people just have naturally sexy voices. I mean look at Boris Johnson, he looks like a fucking doofus. But if you closed your eyes and listened to him you'd be like, wow this guy sounds sexy as fuck. Boris Johnson should become a VTuber.

>>16850056
Let's be real here, can Cover even find someone who's better than Vox? I could name a few but none of them are otaku-related

>>16871847
They'd have to literally hire Pewdiepie to stand any chance of breaking Vox's stranglehold on the industry.

The worst part is Nijiniggers can be so insufferable sometimes I can't tell if you people are just being ironically retarded or serious.

>>16871932
You greatly overestimate Voice Demon.
He'll be mogged either by a future NijiEN male or a StarsEN member (or whatever they name the group).

>>16871847
there's no indie that comes close to Vox far as deep voice goes. you can probably give Shu or Luca a challenge since they're the weakest. Ike proved to be the best singer of the group with his recent karaoke, Mysta's wit and banter is unbeatable. Luca's girl voice gimmick isn't strong enough to carry him.

>>16871847
Me

>>16872274
That's the thing though. It's not enough to be stronger than the weakest. They need to be stronger than the strongest. Do you ever hear someone say "Kiara Killer"? No, they say "Gura Killer."

>>16872382
that's just a meme repeated here on /vt/ and only /vt/. the real numbers compare objective facts. Vox and Mysta both get numbers that are coming close to competing against Sana and Fauna of Council. you don't have to kill Gura to still command power.

>>16872447
>you don't have to kill Gura to still command power.
>They're talking like anime villains now

I don't even watch NijiEN but seeing /vt/ have a meltdown over what Luxiem's success means for the future of Hololive is hilarious.

>>16872648
It's karma for all the times Holobronies barged into Niji threads solely to say "Stop posting this 2view, I only watch Gura"

Keep bumping this thread, Box is sexy

>>16873113
>WHO?!
Now they know who.

>>16849808
i unironically think Selen's laugh is more annoying anything Kiara does, dont know why she's popular at all, and im no gay but i could literally fall asleep to Vox's voice, it's like asmr to my ears. and im holokek

>>16874533
In theory Selen's constant laughter should be annoying but I can't get enough of it, I finally understand what an oshi is because they're someone who no matter what they do it's impossible for them to annoy you. I realized up till then nobody was a true oshi, this is what the real meaning of oshi is. I also don't hate Jimmy Fallon anymore because I think it's hypocritical to criticize him for laughing so much when I like Selen for laughing so much.

>>16850588
You believe women deserve more?

>>16852924
>waaah it doesn't count it's SEA!!!
Where do you think Gura's 3 million subs and her high VOD views come from?

>>16849808
We can’t stop winning m*les! ! !

>>16853984
We are talking about people who play video games for the amusement of incels for a living, so yeah, sounds about right.

>>16875898
It counts if it is for a Holo, not a N*j*.

>>16875845
>You believe women

>>16862434
It's an entire month seething. I have never seen anything like this before

>>16875952
pretty much the big reason SEA is overrepresented in NijiEN is due to their lack of unpopularity on reddit. I have a relatively big Niji/Holo channel. When I shill my clips on reddit the viewers are all from US and when I don't it's all SEA. All Americans come from reddit

>>16876128
>All Americans come from reddit
It keeps getting worse...

>>16876128
all holo watchers is redditbros... holobronies are you okay?

>>16862434
Hilarious isn't it

>>16854422
Tsunderia...

>>16853113
I'm pretty sure Eastern women give a shit about pedo, they will keep watching him because their pussies are wetting

>>16882101
KUZUHA BTFO! THE NEW KINGS HAS ARRIVED

>>16857075
Based Nene enjoyer, I stopped watching nijiEN because of male and started watching Kawaii lately but I'm fully support nijiEN to destroy holobronies and make them seething