/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Just short lived

Da da da bi da dooo

you smell

You mean the current hype? They'll get destroyed once some chink fujobaiters come out cause almost all of their viewers are from taiwan and nearby.

By Nijisanji or by their fan girls?

>>16844329
Their debut + current hype yeah

>>16844329
Pretty much yeah most of what mde Luxiem a surprising success actually has nothing at all to do with the West - it wasn't us, or reddit or twitter crowds doing it really but Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean, mainland Chinese and SEA girls flocking to them. I guess it's true asian girls just really dig white dudes, they watch them even if they can barely understand them.

The thing is that all feels like possibly a fad or flash in the pan amongst whatever social media amongst chicks there and there's no telling if there'd really be long-term interest holding out or not. Furthermore I think Cover's kneejerk move to attempt to respond is also kind of dumb because they're trying to preach to the people who are generally kind of indifferent/not that hyped about them about it instead of target the ghost audience of asian women that materialized out of nowhere for luxiem. Mainland Chinese aren't gonna watch that's for sure, lightning may not strike twice if it was local word of mouth that really did it as that's epehmeral and not very controllable messaging.

>fake hype
>rockstat treatment
Explain these terms.

>>16844662
It definitely feels forced around here at least, although I think it's probably because their audience of dedicated viewers here is pretty small and you mostly have numberfags just going "look!!! numnbers!!!!!" and random converts from NijiEN girls who are at least trying to give them a chance, or rather are forced to because there are a bunch of weekly collabs between the branches.

People say NijiEN threads are dominated by the males and shipping now but every time I've looked the past couple days you can fucking barely tell the males exist at all most of the time outside of an actual collab happening. So really I don't think they've actually caught on much besides as numberfag and shitpost fuel.

>>16844808
So /vt/ is your only judge of popularity and acceptance?

>>16844587
More like NijiJP males are very popular with Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean, mainland Chinese and SEA girls beforehand and they already have a fanbase there, just like how hololiveEN became popular immediately because of hololiveJP girls

>>16844808
People who don't watch were spamming them to get replies from people who pretend to hate men to get replies.

>>16844808
People say NijiEN threads are dominated by the males and shipping now but every time I've looked the past couple days you can fucking barely tell the males exist at all most of the time outside of an actual collab happening. So really I don't think they've actually caught on much besides as numberfag and shitpost fuel.
I mean, you can say they don't talk about Petra or Reimu that much too. Thread relevancy =/= normal relevancy since you have the thread dominated by pomudachis, rosebuds and dragoons that post "sex with my oshi" 20 times in a row and, at least Pomu and Rosemi, are not the most popular in their gens by general means. Also NijiEN did the same for the males and you have a higher concentration of mystakes and lucubs there since they're more popular with /nijiEN/ than the others

Powerful holo cope itt

HHHRRRMMMMMMM GONNA BE COPE IN THE DARK

>>16845182
Kinda forgot the ">" sign there, well imagine it's there

>>16845050
yea nijisanji always had strong audience for male chuubas nothing new about it.White men love asian women and asian women love white men.

>>16845128
source please

>>16844994
Twitter can be botted and niji reddit effectively doesn't exist. The overhype seems to come from random Taiwanese/Japanese forums as those are over half of the fanbase for Luxiem. Go ask them what's up because I can't tell you why they like them so much. What I'm saying is the hype around here for them is an echo of something we didn't actually do at all, not just /vt/ but the West period. So I feel it's actually overblown because there is not a lot of day to day discussion about them anymore, all the talk over their novelty and the numbers. It's taking credit for the horny Asian ladies' hype train, people who aren't here and maybe don't even speak English, for the sake of tribalist shitposting.

>>16845194
then make more nijimale en threads then

>>16845676
>we
/vt/ is a microcosm of vtuber fans and you can purely see this because Gura's general is fucking dead, you also seem to only browse NijiEN general when big noombers events happen because the boys get liveposted hard to the point where people ask where is the girl discussion and whine about making a split.

>>16845182
As someone who almost exclusively watched NijiEN lately, I hope that the general /nijiEN/ thread stays the default containment thread for the worst shitposters that watch or don't watch NijiEN. I would trust the people in there to miss when they throw a stone on the ground. Please keep them out of every other NijiEN thread

>Before debut
THERE'S NO MARKET
>After debut
The hype won't last, it was overblown, they'll become 2 views any minute.

God it just kills some of you to admit that you where wrong for the millionth time on something, and OP's statement makes no sense, what rockstar treatment? They got a trailer with their voices and a song, just like the other 3 NijiEN waves, the trailer generated hype because every single female vtuber collectively drenched their panties when they heard Vox.

>>16845701
Luxiem general is right there dude, no need to clutter the board more than it already is.

>>16845797
Nobody gives a fuck about the Holo splits, they specifically are the fucking outcasts who don't wanna use Global. The active ones are shunned as shitty leper colonies. Not to mention the activity of Gura's thread both reflects the fact Gura's numbers have crashed a lot the past few months as a real-time interest indicator, and the fact that thread in specific is beset by raiders and shitposters to the point many of them returned to Global.

>>16845676
>Twitter can be botted
I am laughing

>>16845856
We're effectively right that there's no market - in the West. Asian ladies coming in supporting them to the point the majority of their SCs are in won and yen was not predicted as coming to pass by fucking anyone. If that didn't happen, they'd be a lot less impressive. Even then, only two of them ever actually have gotten big numbers, the rest are similar to regular NijiEN girl numbers.

>>16845856
>THERE'S NO MARKET
considering that they're the only ones out there right now and while they get good numbers it's not really that impressive if you take that into account
especially if you realize that none of their viewers are EN
it's not like you femcels asked for HolostarsCN or anything

>>16844808
Niji EN males just feel very... gay, I higly doubt many people HERE would watch something like that because pandering to fujos is cringe for heterosexual males, same reason why we don't fap to yaoi manga. Luxiem got huge female audience from the start but now they don't appeal to anybody outside of this specific female fanbase I bet girls will beat them in subs in the end of the day.

>>16845414
https://twitter.com/K00S_/status/1475450784641089536
artist is literally on the image nigga

still coping after /vt/'s wrong prediction huh

>>16845856
theres no use debating with these retards
they always find a way to cope

>No one watches males
>They will debut to 100 viewers
>They will cause le final yab
>Their success is botted
You are now here

>>16846688
People are unironically saying that they're still getting their "debut buff" several weeks later, and that they'll drop down any day now.
Luxiem is a success, it's time to admit it.

>>16846035
holy cope, do you think holoEN doesn't have chink, gook, SEAnig male audience too? view is view no matter what it comes from, and the male in nijiEN has higher views, higher SC than the girls already and it seems they break the nijiEN record every week
I am not watching nijiEN anymore because of the males but you just need to accept it and move on

>>16846866
A success with an asterisk next to it,
>*90% propped up by horny taiwanese high school girls that nobody was even thinking about

It's not like you did it, or we did, you're just taking credit for it. Ironically this is classic nijifag behavior, going "look at this concert that got like 200k viewers I didn't even watch one second of and never will, holofags btfo!!" just taking something to hate on Holo with. Only, NijiEN guys actually do speak english and are watchable, but, people here don't really watch or talk about them anyway despite their alleged success. That is a hollow victory if there ever was one.

>>16847765
>people here don't really watch or talk about them anyway despite their alleged success.
Yes they do you retarded numberfag. People who only look at numbers always think they have any idea of what goes on.
Selen is live right now and most of the general is about Ike who is in call with her. When Luca is live, you will see 3 anons post in the same second about a comment he made. EN general has taken to drawfagging on the weekends and Luxiem art overtakes most of it. The guys even have more porn. Even the JP male thread discusses EN. So please keep posting that no one talks about them on /vt/ because you look retarded and it's funny.

>>16847124
compare the currency superchats are in
then go seethe cope and dilate

>>16847124
>male in nijiEN has higher views
>I am not watching nijiEN anymore
All those opinions wasted by admitting it was merely bullshit

What's the difference between Luxiem being successful because of thirsty teenage people of the opposite gender who don't speak their language and Hololive being successful because of thirsty teenage people of the opposite gender who don't speak their language?
Exactly, (You) are part of one group, but not the other.

Only holofags try this hard to invalidate success lol. Luxiem is much more popular than you retards expected and now the HoloMales will invade your oshi's streams.

Get over it. Let's hope this makes things more interesting on your end

>>16848353
holo jp viewers are almost all japanese
luxiem viewers are taiwanese and koreans

>>16848601
Mysta's biggest viewed country is Japan.

>>16848726
which is still not the intended audience for EN
literally everyone is gonna start pumping out fujobaiters for asian women and you're gonna get mogged and sit with your 1k chuubas with EN viewerbase

>>16846688
>>16846688
>No one watches males
That got proven wrong super hard lol

>>16848601
By "taiwanese" probably like 70% of those NTD superchats are in fact mainland Chinese girls as for some reason almost all Chinese specifically use Taiwanese VPNs to connect to the outside world. The CCP has effectively banned kpop in China. So, some of those fans looking for something to fangirl over with each other openly have taken to weebism and vtubers looking for an alternative. These are very recent developments, literally like 3 months ago recent, and Luxiem just-so-happened to come about right when they were starting to look for other things and caught their interest.

THAT, is your actual explanation to this mystery, it's the Chinese rather than specifically the Taiwanese. Chinks are what saved Luxiem and it wasn't ANYTHING to do with a pre-existing vtuber audience in the west at fucking all.

Given this situation, Cover is actually-fucking-dense if they think they can replicate NijiEN's success since those mainlanders aren't gonna support anything from Cover anymore. You might argue "well chinese girls probably may not give a fuck about the coco thing" but chinese guys do... aka their relatives, parents, boyfriends etc in addition to any gung-ho CCP drone friends. If those guys hear they're supporting Cover talents such as a HolostarsEN, they might get shamed/bullied out of it, it's not safe socially to like them anymore.

>>16844587
I hope Cover's attempt fails miserably. They deserve after they ruined the industry with their walled garden bullshit

>>16849159
the taiwanese are chinese so your point is pretty irrelevant and if you think women won't go for dudes they can actually understand then you have the mental capabilities of my angelfish

the whole new holostars thing is just a rrrat now
cover is a classic jap company that is very conservative in their decisions
there's a bunch of smaller agencies out there that will mog the everliving hell out of your luxiem viewerbase

>>16849391
I'm not arguing against any of that, it is very possible that in like 6 months taiwanese dude vtubers will replace Luxiem as they see there's a market to be had. The chinese girls right now are sort of like how western dudes were with Hololive in about 2019. When their CN supports come fill things in yeah they'll probably flock to those.

There are a ton of Japanese viewers for Luxiem as well but I don't think they'll last super-long and treat it more like a novelty, because they all say they're gonna learn English and then crap out in like 3 months. That's what happened with Japanese HoloEN viewers at least so I would guess it'll be similar due to the inherent pain in the ass of actually-mastering English for the sake of some petty media entertainment, it's something most wouldn't actually go through, they just ideally would like to instantly know English if they could.

>>16844226
COPE IN THE DARK YEAH

>>16849345
I 100% agree, especially choking out vtubers in the EN sphere.

>Th-they are succesful but there's still no market I swear!

The cope in this thread is beautiful to see. Keep it coming, faggots

>>16844226
>males
>get fags instead
>le women actually want gayshit

>women
>get lesbians instead
>le males actually want gayshit

>le
>kill yourself

Sigh...

the holocope is real

>>16862271
It's getting quite embarrassing honestly. I'm not even much of a Nijisanji watcher, I mainly watch PRISM and indies nowadays and the fact /vt/ just can't ever seem to admit they were wrong is just shameful

>>16866027
It's because of Hololive supremacy rooted within the board, thus the need to shit on everything that isn't Holo. When things aren't trending their way they go in full Holocope mode. It's great to see the small corpos getting some viewer gains as well over the last couple months.

>>16844226
Find it pretty interesting how pretty much everyone was wrong about Luxiem's woyld be success, even the most positive anons didn't expect them to hit it as much as they did, myself included (one of the few moments in my life I was glad to be proven wrong).
But it's also interesting how they were also wrong about where their popularity would come from, as it seems like most of the guys' fans come more from the east rather than the west, and by a significant amount, which kinda proves right the claims that there wasn't much actual western interest.
Honestly, Luxiem's case is a pretty interesting one to look at if I'm being honest.

>>16844226
You're obsessed
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=Rockstar+treatment

>>16868202
I still don't know what the fuck rockstar treatment means.

>>16844226
>Rockstar treatment
What does that mean?

>>16868330
>>16870611
Maybe like GTA online? Because Its successful and generate money, they only focusing on that game

I watched Ike's karaoke VOD and it was pretty POG

>>16873432
But Luxiem still doesn't have a sponsorship or anything like that

>>16874023
What i Mean is, Luxiem (GTA online + first overseas super successful niji branch) anycolor (Rockstar) Only focusing on Luxiem because they successful and don't care about the rest of nijiEN like Rockstar to gta online,

That is the only think i can make up with this "Rockstar treatment" the faggot using

>>16844587
>Furthermore I think Cover's kneejerk move to attempt to respond
Auditions have always been open to males, can we please bury this timeloop already?
If they debut EN males they're almost certainly just going to dig up shortlisted guys from the first audition and very very VERY maybe throw in one or two from the new one.

Pretty sure a fair chunk of Council was shortlisted people from the Myth audition.
You people really have no concept of the timelines involved in things like this.

>>16877222
>shortlisted guys from the first audition

>hey so we like your stuff but we're not going to debut you for THREE YEARS can you stay on standby and not grow into your own successful indie business and identity during the whole time so you're ready to come back of the off chance we debut males?
not even the japanese do this

I was legitimately excited for Luxiem but I gave up on them after a few weeks. People complain on and off about female vtubers doing nothing but girlfriend pandering and acting cute but the Luxiem guys are largely far worse than any NijiEn or HoloEn girl about it. They're pandering on a level that I've never ever seen NijiJP men do and it really just makes me sad.

>>16846008
Pure fucking cope, you niggers were wrong, all you have to cling on is part of the new fanbase are chinks. They've all been getting fuck huge numbers, Ike got 22k just yesterday.
>>16862271
Fucking change it to seconds at this point

>>16868330
>>16870611
It's a way to identify OP as a schizo

>>16877377
Only 2 of them doing that shit, just say you don't watch them

>>16862271
I wonder why these people even seethe over them honestly

Why do good threads die but dog shit schizo ones like this stay up for days?

>>16880700
>Good threads
Other than that, it's because people who make these types of threads day in and day out will literally bump it themselves if not enough people take the bait or just sage.

>>16848801
more like this please.

They'll be irrelevant in 2-3months when niji debut their 5th, 6th, and 7th wave