/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16801741
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>>16801741
Yes

Sure why not

>>16801741
yea i guess

would shake things up so why not

Irys could fill in her spot quite well

>>16801741
Not yet.

Nah, just quit feeding the drama repeatedly and stop mentioning her irl friends by name and all of the shit that cropped up in the last week will disappear.

>>16801741
She needs promotion

>>16801741
Yes. Bitch doesn't care about Hololive

With how she is being rasict towards the italian in this collab, I hope they spam bot her, she breaks down, runs to conner, gets the hand rrat and then graduate's

if she doesn't care about hololive why did she help write mumei's song
now you can't anti her because mumei too cute

>>16803940
Dw full rrat in the youtube comments

>>16801741
yes, because i dont like her

>>16801741
Axe all of EN, we can't risk the cancer from spreading further

>>16801741
No, but I think she should show up to my fucking birthday

>>16803940
Just the TT faggots. Nothing wrong with Milky Queen.

>>16804352
Mumei is already anti'ed a lot around here. It's no secret what she has done in the past

>>16801741
I hated the idea of HoloEN and it seems the collective will made this girl in particular the center of most of EN's drama, I hope she stays and basically becomes the catalyst of HoloEN's downfall

What happened and why is there so much Morio hate today?

>>16805006
This is the bitter truth, even if she leaves they become indelibly sullied.

>>16805689
Nene raped Ironmouse

Hopefully, cover needs a 200k+ event this year to beat Niji Koshien on August for 2022 gold

>>16805689
you ever wonder why she keeps getting all this hate?

>>16805689
She's been simping Connor again.

She should become a full time vrapper.

>>16805835
no, (You)'ve been simping Connor again. You're the one who paid for his condom money, remember?

>>16805689
She's been entangling with people that hate her job and feeding dramafags with a buffet.

>>16805933
I don't superchat because I don't want Google getting a cut.

>>16805006
this is unfortunately true

>>16801741
If she still behave the same after omegatranny is replaced, she deserve that

letting someone live this rent-free in your autistic mind is quite the delicacy indeed. stay mad autist. she didn't do anything wrong and rightfully called you an incel in front of everyone

>>16806223
c-cuck...brap...

I don't think she "deserves" graduation, I just hope she leaves voluntarily once she thinks shes too big for Hololive

Yeah. She doesn't care about hololive and you could see it after her debut. I don't even carebabout her autistic spergouts lately, they just reinforce my opinion that she lacks any professionalism.

>>16805689
>started simping for some drama whore anti-tuber on his show
>jokingly said how she sent him money from her own superchats
>started talking about how Hololive needs to start doing collabs with males which pissed off the GFE fags
>talked about how scummy youtuber apologized to every single member from her gen
>Kiara later on said how she never heard of the dude or being reached out to him when asked during one of her supachat reading streams

graduate this bitch

She seems like she's getting more and more tired of Hololive as a whole. The restrictions by management, the bad apples in the fanbase and her regard for her other friends instead of the Hologirls are wearing her down.
If she makes it another year I'll be surprised but at this point, she could definitely graduate and maintain a sizable audience.
I'm sure she also has several connections to further her music career.

>>16807411
>The restrictions by management
Don't say dumb shit to offend your fans and be going to scummy YouTube channels for E-Drama

>the bad apples in the fanbase

any fandom will always be fickle. They're not meant to be treated like mindless cultists.

>her regard for her other friends instead of the Hologirls are wearing her down.

She doesn't have to be friends with her genmates but at the least be respectful and work with one another as it is part of the job.

>I'm sure she also has several connections to further her music career.

Anon, she's a glorified soundcloud rapper in Japan for a reason.

>>16805689
https://streamable.com/5a8uq2

>>16805427
I dont know what she did in the past.

Honestly you could probably make her graduate by relentlesly harassing connor and her other non-holo friends. But I would never recommend such a terrible thing.

>>16808080
She fucked every member of this band except the bassist. Shit was fucked.

>>16801741
Yes but just because I don't like her music. I've never watched her and have no idea why you fags keep talking about her lately

>>16808187
The bassist was married. No way he would cuck his wife.

>>16807926
I dont understand the context. Who is apparently apologizing and for what?

>>16808104
Can someone donate some Iron Mouse Funeral Fund to Mori?

>>16808354
Connor.

He's some clickbait Youtube fag who's whole channel is about e-drama. He was was shit talking about Vtubers. Mori appeared at his show and basically bitched and whined the whole time about being a vtuber

>>16808354
Just unicorns getting mad about two adults in a platonic friendship hanging out and drinking off streams. Don't worry about it.

>>16808593
did you dropped as a baby? Or were you born retarded?

I hope she does not graduate. I mean, I hate Connor as much as the next guy. But a 3d debut without Calli would be very sad.
Furthermore, I am convinced 3d concerts will fix her.

>>16808649
This sentence, holy shit the cope.

>>16809170
Only one coping is you buddy. But I guess you can't help not understanding human relationships, being autistic and all.

>>16808964
Proofread anon. PROOFREAD.

>>16809346
Lol, what am I coping about? The fact your oshi hangs out with men IRL? LMAO

>>16808964
>>16809365
rumao!

>>16809477
Women have the right to do what they want. This isn't the middle ages fucktard. Besides, nothing about this situation changes anything about her being our cute and dorky mori

>>16809365
Ironic I know. Not that big of a deal P:

>>16809675
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I want her to graduate before she’s too old and busted so we can get big titty roommate twitch streams.

>>16809675
>Women have the right to do what they want

>>16809477
>your oshi hangs out with men IRL
yes, and?

>>16810079
You enjoy being a cuck? Or are you a femanon larping as a real fan.

>>16810079
dude you're a freaking cuck

>>16809675
>IN CURRENT YEAR

>>16810242
>>16810245
Well, Calli and I aren't dating, Nor am I watching her have sex with anyone, so...no not really. You should probably look up what a cuck actually means before saying it left and right like a 12-year-old trying way too hard to be edgy

>>16810242
I love my oshi and hope that all of her needs are fulfilled. And that means all of her needs and I'm not capable of satisfying all of them.
That is what true love entails.

>>16808964
Did you, Anon?

>>16806504
>>16807926
>https://twitter.com/syzygy1729/with_replies

stop it schizo.

>>16810538
>>16810566
pathetic. You people are disgusting. You deserve her.

>>16810794
what does this anon even mean by this?

>>16801741
Maybe not graduate. Segregated to her gen like hololive rap or something so she doesn't interact too much with EN would be best for everyone I think.

>>16811079
>proved that you don't know what cucking is
>"y-y-you people are disghusting"

At least try. Also, don't lump me with that other guy.

>>16811231
You're a cuck aspirant. Even worse in my opinion.

>>16811197
>would be best for everyone
under what kind of logic? It would be bad for everyone you mean.

>>16811369
Anon please, we call them deadbeats around here.

>>16811231
lol lmao hahaha
the actual state of deadcucks

>>16811369
>cuck aspirant
Do you make it a habit to use words you don't actually know anon? Also, I'm sorry to break it to you...But Calli is just a Jpeg that moves...She doesn't exist. I couldn't even date her even if I wanted to.

Besides, I think she's entertaining, I'm not in love with her. You should learn the difference between the two while you read a dictionary.

>>16808649
>>16808964
>>16809675
Shut up, Calli.

>>16811570
A jpeg that talk about her RL friends.
Go back to the farms retard.

>>16811570
everything you just said is wrong besides the fact you don't care about her. You are an absolute tourist.

>>16801741
Not graduate. Merge

>>16811376
No deadbeats can still jack off to their oshi. And Mori will only make very rare appearances in group en collabs, maybe do some product placements or something. That way her faggots will no longer have any influence on EN.

>>16810794
>It looks bad when Calli promotes her friends in an official manner when they have shit on other Hololive talents in the past.

But he's right?

>>16811938
That didnt happen, and clearly cover doesnt feel this way as they allowed more collabs after than and there will be more in the future, and they want them as it helps their growth in the west, they dont care what some schizos on 4chan get butthurt about.

also stop samefagging autist.

>>16811734
what? a streamer using a jpeg as a puppet has a life outside of streaming? holy shit who would have thought such a thing! you're right! how dare she make friends irl and hang out with them. She should have considered your incel feewings

>>16811771
>everything you just said is wrong
no, it isn't sorry but she's not a real reaper.
>the fact you don't care about her. You are an absolute tourist.
I didn't say I didn't care, I said I wasn't in love. I care about her like a healthy-minded person should. Not some obsessed weirdo.

>>16811938
He also talked shit about Hololive fans on stream, then deleted the VOD and started leaching from Ironmouse instead of manning up and apologizing. It blows my mind that Cover would allow any of its talents to interact with Trash Taste after that.

>>16812217
>it helps their growth in the west
If the best way to grow in the west is interacting with fucking anitubers then Cover really has no clue about what they're doing.

>>16805689
Indog facebook groups rallying their subhuman armies. This is not a joke.

(yes)

She clearly would be more happy being solo or apart of the trash taste crew. She hates Vtubing its painfully obvious to even the most retarded anon /here/. The only people who cant seem to tell this about her. After having spent time watching any of her content are blind fanboy dead cucks.

No, she absolutely doesn't. She's my cup of tea but what she did isn't by any means graduation-worthy.
But she should really try and ween off being chummy with drama-fueling ecelebs, which there's a fair bit of who would easily try and befriend her and then drop her the moment she's not "hot" anymore. She's befriending other Holos like Fauna which is great, I think friendships like that are worth more than their weight in gold. Collab with other talents if you want, just ride out the Hololive train for as long as it goes, and when that moment ends just peace out into the sunset with more "Fuck you" money than most people her age will ever have.

I wouldn't be upset at this point if they gave her the boot but management needs to do something about her before that's the only option. She's too much of a stubborn bitch to admit she lied or did anything wrong. If they don't bonk her soon she's going to keep getting worse about it until she starts up a guerilla stream that's just her getting gang banged by the TT crew and flipping off the camera.

>16812244
>a jpeg that moves
>a real person that uses a jpeg as a puppet
You're a tard that invalidated yourself. Almost as hard as your mother should have. You're not getting another (you) from me if you can't even commit.

>>16812383
Anon...a chubba joked about redirecting her supachat money to some sleazy youtuber that talks shit about vtubers and their fans...

>>16801741
No she shouldn't graduate but I am bummed out with the anituber shit. Was looking forward to her English lesson streams, especially her idea to have 1 EN with her and 2 JPs for conversation practice but fuck anitubers. Never forget.

>>16801741
not before her damage to hololive is irreparable. her job is not finished as of now.

>>16812385
Best? It's one of many ways, you use all avenues, and it has already worked and been a success, Cope faggot. Contrary what you and 4chin thinks, TT is quite well liked by weebs - which is target audience, not idolfags.

She needs to go on a one to two week forced break and issue an apology so that her ego gets checked. Then she can stay.

>>16805427
Ok, who THE FUCK isn't anti'ed around here? Gura does, ame does, ina does, kiara definitely does, we know of ayame, pekora, miko, suisei, polka, even fucking sora at times

>>16813317
>putting a HoloEN on a break
Sounds exactly like what they would want desu.

>>16813008
>didn't even have the balls to send the (you) because you didn't want to be told off

Alright, because apparently English isn't your first language. allow me to use small words for you.

a V-tuber is more or less a person using a moving jpeg, right? The jpeg is the character, while the person behind it sorta plays out the character. There are some acceptions, sure. But generally, the puppeteer pretends to be a character to give the idea that an anime girl is streaming.

What people are drawn to, generally, is the avatar. not the person you can't see. Calliope Mori isn't that person's real name, it's the name of the character.

So. With this newfound knowledge, it shouldn't be hard to grasp the concept that you can't date Calliope for the same reason you can't date a regular cartoon character.

and I shouldn't be too invested in the person behind the avatar's life, for the same reason i shouldn't be invested in a VA

>>16813373
It's almost like people have different opinions or something. I know you're not used to that because you're from reddit/twitter.

>>16812968
Nobody really cares if she's friends with dumb e-celebs, the problem is when she starts naming them on streams. I don't know a single person on Holopro that name drops their irl friends as much as Mori. Even Temma who usually streams more frequently on his roommate account keeps that shit completely separated. There's no problem with her collabing with the Stars or other vtubers, but when she's more excited to be on an mediocre anituber podcast it makes me question why she applied to Hololive in the first place.

>>16813272
Only in /vt/ I can find people unironically defending anitubers. Also she has enough popularity to be chosen by Taku Inoue to sing one of his songs and could easily get the attention of other music producers and actually interact with them. At this point there's 0 reason for her to still give TT any attention and not just have them as her personal friends.

>>16813444
You'll be surprised how many of the fags here are from the farms. Incessant and endless bitching about /vt/ whiles using all the lingo and images as avatars.

>>16813272
You mean ironic weebs

>>16813393
That is so fucking wrong. Holy shit. Go back to whatever hell site you came from, faggot.
The character is an avatar for the person. They are the same thing. That's why you can't replace the "VA".

Please never act like you understand our hobby ever again or better yet, just kill yourself

>>16813474
>when she's more excited to be on an mediocre anituber podcast it makes me question why she applied to Hololive in the first place.
She said on the first TT appearance that she applied on a whim because her friends were excited about it and also auditioning.

>>16813536
Please don't give him (you)s either. I thought maybe he had 4chanx or something but he's actively refreshing the page hoping to get his dopamine high.

>>16813474
don't really care for whatever mori shenanigans, but what up with neofeodalism tier org simping? I would follow my oshi even without the org, i wouldn't follow, assuming they are not attractive for me, other talents even if they are in the same gen or friends with my oshi. If you have a bone to pick with anyone just unsubscribe and move on, kekw.

>>16813373
I meant to say "then who"
>>16813444
I'm hardly used to the cesspool that is Twitter and honestly never used reddit at all
That said by your logic, we mean literally nothing at the end of it all
This discussion doesn't matter and neither is our opinion, I prefer when we just shitpost and at least came up with stupid schizo findings like recreating suisei piss than have the useless amount of dramabait we get
But I can't even discuss this because I'm newfag by your standards, jackass

>>16813536
it must hurt shoving your entire head up your ass huh?

Do you honestly think Rushia's VA is actually a UWU moe girl who wants bigger boobs? Does that Nene really want to marry her fanbase?

I don't even have the energy to be mad at you

I just pity you.

also if you actually knew anything you'd know that the girls don't always have a say as to how their characters turn out. Council is sort of proof of that because they needed to fit some shitty lore that Omega made.

>>16813393
>calls him ESL
>acceptions
heh
overall i agree, i watch vtubers for the characters they play, problem with Mori as far as i can see is that she seems to bring up her IRL interactions shattering the illusion herself

>>16813536
>hell site
>away from 4chan
You do not belong here.

>>16813657
Tribalism is so ingrained in your small head that you managed to see my post as me simping for Cover when I've never mentioned them.

>>16801741
>>16804089
>>16806392
>>16806747
How though? We do realize that she bonded hard with the other girls and her senpai right? I think she'll do everything to never leave

>16813706
You don't even watch vtubers

>>16813726
mistakes happen. thanks for not being a dick about it at least.

I chock it down as sometimes people can just keep K-fabe better than others. I kinda thought that she's just one of those people who can only be herself. it shows how comfortable she is streaming now, as opposed to before when she started out and tried to keep up some act.

>>16813706
Not him but I wanna argue that this is different
It's not like a VA for a different role, they've all have become one and the same with this characters if you follow them hard
Sure nene doesn't really want to be wife of the whole entire world, but most of their mannerism are similar, they've becoming comfortable being themselves with their characters only taking over their appearance
They've even admitted to this and talk heavily about it, so maybe it's more so of degree and case by case basis

>>16813917
We're not all dicks and jackasses, but we're no saint either
It's both and you'll never know which you'll find, 4chan isn't all bad, just cathartic

>>16813778
you are criticizing her using other hololive talents as comparison, and asking why did she joined the org in the first place, from where i'm standing, you have at least some invested interest in the org itself ergo NO YOU.
Also
>At this point there's 0 reason for her to still give TT any attention
my biggest guess is it's about kadokawa money

>>16801741
She would love to be forced to graduate by Cover, because then she would milk that drama and get all the gachikois to her roommate account like Coco.
Even if she had to sign a NDA, she could just use TT as a mouthpiece to shit on Cover without explicitly mention them (so they can't be sued).
All that drama would just give them more exposure and views from antiholo fans at the expense of destroying Hololive's image in the west

she needs an ego check

>>16813812
I watch them plenty. I'm just not an obsessive schizo who thinks I have any control over the Vtuber's life

>>16814066
Don't bring out that shit as the character and nobody would bat an eyelid

>>16814020
I also don't know a single Nijimem that frequently names rl friends, and there's a big friends group that spams both Nijisanji and Holopro and they rarely, if ever, interact with each other as vtubers.

Reminder that these are LLfags from SEA.

>>16807855
Wait, wasn't she supposed to have a 5-figure income per month before she even joined Hololive?I remember reading it in her general. Is soundcloud that lucrative?

>>16809675
>Women have the right to do what they want
Fucking cucks like you are the reason women are turning into Karens en masse.

>>16814228
Yes, we know deadcucks are SEA.

>>16814241
considering she said herself that she was working a shit tier job to keep afloat i really fucking doubt the 5-figures income thing. unless they mean like 10000Yen or something

>>16813922
Not the guys you were replying, but even if they have become one with the characters, they should never cross the line of bringing up their IRL friendship to the character.
Want to support CDawg with twitch subs? Do it with your non holo account. Want to tell him to play jump king? Non holo account.
Not doing that just means she's using her character's fame to promote her IRL friends, which is extremely unprofessional

>>16813922
>>16814119

I get that it's more personal. I'm just explaining why I can't consciously say I love any of the girls. admire, sure but not love. but despite that, she's never been shy to say she was friends with the guys in TT and I don't think too deeply about it.

I don't like Connor much either, but I just don't go out of my way to watch him. It doesn't matter if she's this friend because it's her life. that's all I'm saying, you know?

>keep ignoring that she has qualities of a very loyal friend
>be dumbfounded that she acted like a very loyal friend.

>>16814005
Thank you for being a rational human being

Keep only ina and irys, maybe fauna if she wants to stay

Never understood why people like Mori/Ollie/etc joined Hololive when it should be obvious what you're getting into. Its a fucking idol company where you are expected not to collab or simp for men, just interact with the other girls and stop trying to change the company culture. This is why non-Jap vtubers was a mistake

>>16814522
>Not the guys you were replying, but even if they have become one with the characters, they should never cross the line of bringing up their IRL friendship to the character.
>Want to support CDawg with twitch subs? Do it with your non holo account. Want to tell him to play jump king? Non holo account.
>Not doing that just means she's using her character's fame to promote her IRL friends, which is extremely unprofessional
Anon, CDawg is a host of a podcast she was in.

Also, you're very ignorant because most of the rrats peddled for Mori are from misconstruing rm tweets

>>16808649
the only reason hololive is as successful as it is today is because of unicorns

>>16814595
>Anon, CDawg is a host of a podcast she was in.
A podcast she keeps going because it's from her friend. This is not a rrat, she literally spelled out on stream "Connor is my friend". Calliope, the shinigami character from cover corp, is friends with Connor, instead of her VA.

>>16814613
They are also the reason why Hololive overtook Niji in JP after being behind for years.

>>16801741
She should just use her personal life or her roomate to comment about her con'or. She doesn't know how to play the business.

>>16814595
pretty sure this whole situation is the source of the current shitposting which is not a rm tweet

>>16814765
not him but when people are retardedly throwing $100 to tell her who she can and can't be friends with someone, she can't really say "don't talk about my Va's friends like this!"

Also Calli, the character did show up on trash taste...so yeah it checks out for her to say that she's Connor's friend

>>16814529
Not really..? You sounded like you're agreeing with me at the end
But it's fine with just admiring without loving, it's O.K

>>16814559
You work with what you get
>>16814538
Speaking of, someone gets it

>>16814845
>Make grandiose, exploitable claim onstream, where it is sure to be clipped: "I will donate the money you send me to someone else"
>Walk it back in the comments where many won't see it.
>Rake in the cash from people you don't like trying to game the system, and she also doesn't have to read the comment itself
Crafty...

>>16814937
my main point is to try not to get too involved with someone. Everyone has a life, it's normal for people to make friends. and just because i can understand and respect this doesn't make me a lesser person.

liking the person and the character is fine too but you just got to remember that they are still a person at the end of the day. And you shouldn't claim ownership over someone and try to cancel them because they do something you don't like.

>>16814538
The problem here is who she considers friend. The character should be more friendly with her fellow genmates, not some random anitubers

>>16812336
>trash taste is a subsidiary of kadokawa
here is your explanation, all behind the scenes shit is about kadokawa and cover management firm handshake, everything chuubas and hosts do is irrelevant

>>16815095
that's not it. What you're doing is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" argument.


Also, thought experiment here: Do you think that she will have the same reaction if the SC was shitting on Gura, of course it will be. That's because she's a great friend. regardless of who was being attacked.

>>16815223
Also, it's funny that all the the talk of Connor being anti-vtuber is now being repurposed to "HE'S LEECHING IRONMOUSE!" now.

>>16815231
>if hypothetical argument
Pathetic

>>16815383
You know both statements can be true, right?
>Go to ironmouse stream and leech from her
>Criticise other vtubers in her stream

>>16801741
Regretfully, yes

>>16815620
but both are false, because he never fails to spill spaghetti outside of it.

>>16815754
never fails not to*

>>16815383
I mean, he does leech off of Mouse but not in the way people here talk about. The collabs and acting and shit have been a huge boost for both of them. So he gets more views and so does his friend. EZ

>>16816166
Hololivefags don't know that the world around them is changing: Connor is no longer the "alleged predator" you all paint him to be, he's more known as Mousey's Bitch.

>>16814594
Let's be serious, hololive is not an idol companies. They share traits with an idol company, but if they were a serious idol company they wouldn't have hired people like Botan, who is an ex FPS pro player. Hololive is mainly an entertainment company, which happens to lean towards idol culture as a way of entertain. What's the point of keeping the idol culture in the western scene, where there's almost no idol culture? If the were only an idol company the wouldn't have hired ever people like Mori or Ame

>>16814845
Reminder that Mori made two $250 donations to connor after getting about $330 in anti superchats.

Youtube takes 30% and then cover takes 50% of what's left. She only got about $110 from those anti superchats before taxes. So she ended up using thousands of dollars of regular deadcucks' superchats to make up the difference.

L. O. L.

>>16801741
She doesn't fit in hololive. So answer that yourself. She won't graduate of course, she needs money.

>>16818026
Without hololive or TT, she'd literally only be able to go back to minimum wage jobs in the USA.

Befriending connor and TT is her social safety net

She doesn't deserve to graduate, but she should really watch that behavior and lay off the eceleb thing.
I don't watch Hololive for GFE or idolfaggotry or whatever the fuck, but I do it because it's a drama-free space for most part.
The other talents, save for the Zhang incident and pink succubus, can put the kibosh on stirring drama quickly. But Mori clearly lacks either the ability to not fucking feed into drama, and she ought to learn it. She may actually do something worse in the future if left unchecked.

>>16801818
>6 hours ago

>>16809675
>Women have the right to do what they want.
Seriously nigger?

>>16812244
You must be the same kind of person who comes into a movie theater and tells everyone the things in the movie aren't real.
Kindly fuck off.

>>16809675
You are everything wrong with modern civilization. Your ancestors are ashamed of you.