/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Likes
Tits
Not playing MC
Puts out the most Music in EN
>Dislikes
Feeding the dramafags and the same timeloops over and over.

>>16684864
>like
Looks
>dislike
Logical inconsistency in words and actions

>Like
Model
>Dislike
Her

>Likes
Virtual whore
>Dislikes
Actual whore

>Likes
caring, honest person, extremely loyal, amazing inspiration
>Dislikes
too stubborn sometimes

>Likes
Her rap tastes
>Dislike
Just her in general

>>16685397
>caring, honest person

>>16684864
>likes
make schizoid seethe genuinely or as ammo

>dislike
she didn't take them out the back to shot dead unlike towa

>>16685701
don't you have to attend to your 4 pm sauna ball shrinking session?

>>16685805
Nah, too busy draining my balls inside the whore reaper's mouth

>>16685397
Holy shit you're a faggot.

>>16685909
It's time to wake up anon, that was my mouth.

>>16686121
You can go see this anon >>16686142 for your needs. You're welcomed.

I like the way she talks, her slang, her musical talent, drawing streams, her angst rock karaoke and that she makes vt/ seethe.
I dislike deadbeats, Jump King, musical theater, Pokémon, and I dislike it when she is /was mean to Kiara

>>16684864
Like : her Boobs

Dislike : other than her boobs , including her existence

>>16685701
Tell him the truth Anon

>>16684864
>Like
Eye tracking
Personality
Humor
Tits
>Dislike
Her cringe friends

>>16684864
-Her feet
-Yab Machine
Btw i saw another clip of her when she talks about connor/twitch
So /vt/ have some power after all ?? Wtf they told me nobody cares about what /vt/ say

>>16686648
watame's father made the right call...

>>16686705
Kek

>>16684864
>like
there is nothing to like. Seriously
>dislike
she is trying to destroy hololive

>>16685397
>extremely loyal
to connor you mean

>>16686853
BOfags talking about loyalty, that's a good one, heh

>>16686685
her feet?

>>16686965
I use クロヱ for images

>Likes
When she shouts
>Dislikes
Highly cringey personality (at least at first)
Wannabe rapper vibes
Erratic eye movement
Character Design
Trash taste collabs
Her fanbase

>Likes
When she shouts
>Dislikes
Highly cringey personality (at least at first)
Wannabe rapper vibes
Erratic eye movement
Character Design
Trash taste collabs
Her fanbase
Is an obvious weeb but pretends not to be (much like connor actually now that I think about it)

>>16684864
>likes
hard working
cares to her co workers
consistent muscing release
>dislike
be a workaholic sometimes
shots in her feet by generate unnecessary drama

>>16684864
>Likes
she is calliope mori of hololive english
>Dislikes
her anituber friends keep making schizos shit up the catalog

>>16687351
>hard working
>cares to her co workers

>likes
everything

>dislikes
nothing

Tell me about Calliope Mori.
Why does she fart in the toilet?

>>16687654
You know what I mean

>likes
nothing

>dislikes
everything

>>16687351
Her FEET?

>>16684864
>Likes
When she sings well
>Dislikes
When she doesn't sing well

Look. I'm not the biggest fan of Mori either, but if she's going to sell herself as a singer, then she could at least put out better beats. She's like 40/60 on bops.

>>16687149
Do you imagine her smell and think of liking it though?

>>16684864
>Likes
she is a lolcow
>dislikes
nothing follow your heart Mori

>>16684864
>like
her voice
her model
eye tracking
that she makes /vt/ seethe
most of her music
her taste in games
collabs
>dislike
seems to be /here/
uses chan lingo like cope and seethe
wont tell you all straight up to just go fuck yourselves

I love that she is so easily tilted
I hate that she thinks being a chain smoking alcoholic is cool

>>16687325
also all her doxxes imply she fucks black men exclusively

>>16689152
It used to be cool, ages ago.

>>16689249
How do you explain her being in Japan then?

>>16689249
>Has a fetish for submissive manlets
>Blacks exclusively
The nerdiest black man i know, would sooner talk to the police about a crime he saw, than let a woman like Mori tell him what to do

>likes
nothing
>dislikes
her bars are fucking shit

>likes
She's supportive of other holo members
Jump king is comfy
She makes incels seethe
>dislikes
The way she talks to chat feels forced

>>16689488
>The way she talks to chat feels forced
If ignoring chat did nothing to diminish the cash flow or viewer count, i promise you she'd not talk to chat

>Likes
Can been goofy and does seem like a bit of a dork based on weeb, wiggger, gothgirl, and possible juggalo past.
Can have enthusiasm if it's the right thing.
>Negatives
Broke Kiwawa for a month or two
Is super hit or miss on enthusiasm for collabs.
Is friends with and psudo-promotes TT by mention on streams or tweets.
The Kiara thing could be a positive as well, because Kiara really did need to get over using Kiara as an actual emotional crutch and once she got her footing in Austria, she was much better off mentally than she would have been relying on Mori to baby her. TT breeds general drama for any EN Holo who occasionally collabs with her given that TT actually isn't liked by a decent chunk of Hololive fans (yes, even the casuals) and it leads to rule 4 getting broken during yab moments like this.

>>16689249
That's Amelia.

>likes
autistic like me
Pink hair
Grinds, and respects others' grinds
>dislikes
autistic like me
whore for male attention
anti-gfe to the point of being cringe
has a shallow westerner view of japan(heckin food and onsens), while refusing to fully integrate

>>16689249
unless they midgets and life in japan this rrat doesn't have any sense

>>16690964
>>has a shallow westerner view of japan(heckin food and onsens), while refusing to fully integrate
she's part of one of the most niche subcultures the country has to offer, i don't get why people say stuff like this

>>16684864
>likes
wears her heart on her sleeve
>dislikes
wears her heart on her sleeve

>Like
The time before she existed
>Dislike
The time after

>>16691055
Ah yes, rap. What a niche thing for an American girl to be into. Really shows her appreciation of being in Japan.

>>16684864
>like
Her body
2, maybe 3 songs
>dislike
Her laugh

>Like
Her songs
>Dislike
Her streaming

>likes
her spergy demeanour
tits
her design (see above)
hardworking
>dislikes
stubborn
breaks promises
kind of a bad friend
aligns herself to the worst types of people

>>16684864
>Like
Work ethic, voice, dorkiness

>Dislike
She's not my wife

>>16684864
like: the drama she constantly brings
dislike: her

>>16691332
post 1 other american girl in the entire world that went to japan to do jrap you absolute dipshit

>>16684864
>Like:
Her design
Her rigging
>Dislike
Her personality

>How to save Mori
Send her a supa about how you're super pissed off with how little she interacts with men and that you are going unsub because you think she's becoming a lesbian

>>16691055
It's hard to explain. It'd be like moving to Russia because you like hardbass music while remaining largely ignorant to their culture, save for the most shallow of aspects, like vodka or kvass, or something. Yes, she might like parts of Japanese culture, but she's not really integrating herself into their society, and chooses to stay in her gaijin bubble. And that's reflected by her refusal to actually learn Japanese.

>>16693861
kek

She's free to do what she wants with her career but if she brings CDawg around to IRyS I will become a raging anti

>>16693998
Who cares? It's not like if she integrates she's going to have better access to the basic needs or rights Japs do. They'll just think she's mocking them. "We were waiting for you to finally learn Japanese, third-class citizen. We will now allow you to own land and pay lower taxes."

>>16693998
her japanese has improved massively since she joined holo and she has a bunch of monolingual japanese friends and managed to successfully ingratiate herself with a scene with literally no english speakers. getting completely fluent in a language in 3 years is an absolutely insane prospect for most of the human race and there's nothing wrong with wanting to hang out with people who share your language and culture sometimes too.

say what u want about her personality or whatever but this shit is just factually wrong. vast majority of JET participants come home barely knowing a thing, she knows the language well enough to work in a professional capacity in.

>>16694113
Stop being a nigger. If you want to live in a foreign country than assimilate. Learn the language, understand and embrace the culture.

>>16694208
All countries should assimilate to fit American whims.

>>16694071
Ew no way my pure angel IRyS is ever going to let any filthy male near her. She's not like the other ENwhores.

>>16694197
>getting completely fluent in a language in 3 years is an absolutely insane prospect for most of the human race
Kiara did it in 6 months and she's dumb as dogshit. Learning a new language takes a year at most if you're interacting with native speakers every day

>>16694252
kiara learned japanese, including fucking kanji, without studying it for a second, she's an absolute savant with language

i don't think you've ever tried to learn a language or live somewhere where your language isnt the primary one if you honestly think most people can become truly conversationally fluent in a year as adults

>>16694334
>she's an absolute savant with language
No she isn't. Stop being a retard. Kiara is the baseline. She's not amazing. If you can't do what she did then YOU are fucking stupid. It's like all those people who say "Gee you're a savant at Piano", it's literally just practice nigga, practice every single day. There's no trick. Nobody is a born genius at it. Practice. Which Mori didn't do because she hates leaving her gaijin bubble.

>>16684864
>Likes
She said I was her friend when we met upon the stair (which came as some surprise)
She died alone, a long long time ago
She never lost control
She shook my hand before searching for foreign lands for years and years.
Gazes gazely stares
>Dislikes me
She's the Mori who sold the wold

>>16684864

>like
I FUCKING LOVE KAWAIIOPE MORIRIN AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER

>dislike
nothing

>>16694334
You must be fucking delusional if you genuinely think that. Kiara did not study Japanese at all? Fucking retard, you don't learn how to ride a bike instantaneously, you don't solve math equations without studying even a little bit. Obviously that goes for languages too. If you spare even an hour of your day just to interact with nips or study kanji or some shit, one day you're going to see results. That's how Calli learned Japanese to a certain degree too. What perplexes me is the fact that she won't study it further, because apparently her extent of respect for Japan is just as much as the average burger.

>>16694415
ok dude go memorize all the joyo kanji immediately after seeing them oince, in 6 months, without study. go do it. its a normal thing to be able to do, right?

>>16694745
nta but his argument was basically that hard work and practice gives you results, so why the fuck are you making him name some dumb kanji without studying? Of course that wouldn't be a normal thing to do you fucking dumbass.

>>16694745
Kiara studied retard. She also immersed herself in Japan and basically only spoke to natives the moment she arrived and had no gaijin bubble. That's the only difference between her and Mori. You seriously think birdbrain Kiara is some secret language savant? She just spoke to people in Japanese. Every day. That's all you need to do bro.

>>16686853
you mean mouse self-inserts herself as Mori when watching her getting dicked by cannur?

>>16684864
Like:
>works /vt/ into a seething shoot
>gets money with the fewest miles
>isn't a mark and knows how to politic
Dislike
>girl
>Wants to tag with manlets
>is probably a cruiserweight irl

But seriously, deadbraps, how much more abuse and betrayal can you put up with?

>>16688830
>wont tell you all straight up to just go fuck yourselves

>>16694932
kiara did this. without studying. she has talked about it, how anytime she saw a kanji she had it memorized forever. her ability to memorize kanji is not normal. she gained most of her kanji knowledge from nico nico chat. that is not study. she is an absolute outlier in language learning, and should not be used as a standard

bunch of armchair eops who have never even attempted learning another language trying to lecture people in here for not being fluent overnight

>>16684864
>likes
putting out music
>dislike
collabing with anyone outside of hololive

I'm indifferent to her but I despise her fanbase.

>>16684864
I think Calli’s personality and attitude are great but I can’t stand listening to her. The way she talks and tries so hard to be cool is the most cringey shit I’ve ever heard. I’m not even sure how to explain it, it’s just a feeling of pure visceral cringe. It makes me embarrassed to listen to her.

>like
Her tits and character design
>dislike
The fact that such a good pair of tits and design was the biggest miscast in modern vtube

>>16696543
>I think Calli's personality and attitude are great but the way she expresses those things makes me embarrassed to listen to her
Try proofreading next time.

Her obviously put on voice, and the fact that she hung around so many shitty dudes that lowered her self-esteem bad enough she thought it was appealing to anyone.

>>16696387
You are way too hung up on the kanji shit to simply justify people being retarded. First of all it's not hard, second of all, there's no evidence she can read classic Japanese literature and finally, literacy is not a requirement for being fluent in a language. Languages don't even require writing systems to exist.

>>16684864
>like
Personality
Design
Music is also decent
>dislike
Workaholic
Completely Spinless

>>16690027
>Kiara really did need to get over using Kiara as an actual emotional crutch
Based legitimately schizophrenic chicken

>>16684864
>like
Everything except the alcoholism
>dislike
The alcoholism

>>16684864
>Connor talks shit about Hololive EN girls, calling them "talentless"
>Calli assured everyone that Connor apologized to each of the girls.
>Kiara comes out saying she doesn't have any comms with TT so that means Mori fucking lied.
>To add insult to the injury, Mori gives Connor 250 dollars for 50 subs to his Twitch channel while Mori was using the official Hololive acc.
>Somebody then gave Mori a $250 akasupa with the message "Condom money for Connor"
>Mori reads this and flips out, ranting about the new rules of redsupas. Also since this is a hate message, Mori will now give Connor another $250 (rumao)
>https://streamable.com/5a8uq2

Bullying deadbeats out of global is way funnier than making a new thread to shit on mori desu

>>16684864
List of Mori lies:
>Oh yeah haha I totally have senpais I want to collab with I just coincidentally can't name any, can we please change the topic?
>Oh yeah haha I totally have hololive songs I like, I just coincidentally can't name any... Uhhh.. Uhh OH YEAH HINOTORI, the one song I know, is clearly the best! (Thank god Kiara reminded me it exists)
>I don't collab with JP's because Cover doesn't allow it when I ask! No wait, I don't collab with JP's because I'm too shy to ask in the first place!
>Yes Kiara I listened to your King cover it was great... Wait what do you mean it doesn't exist??
>Actually Kiara I TOTALLY watched the original song you made for me a long time ago, you see I just PRETENDED to not have watched it for... reasons. (This has nothing to do with the fact that I got chewed out by everyone for being a huge piece of shit, no no)
>I'm gonna continue DOOM when I get a PC, no wait, I'm gonna continue DOOM next year, no wait, I'm gonna continue DOOM next year in Summer, no wait...
>I'm gonna sing Godzilla at 1m subs (never happened)
>I'll totally call in to your birthday stream Ame, this time I won't forget, I'll redeem myself from last year!
>You see, Connor PERSONALLY apologized to EVERY SINGLE EN member, I'll have you know

>>16684864
Likes-> Model, voice, personality (hard-working dork-like that usually has her feelings in her sleeve for all to see), made my appreciate rap as a genre more (previously that was very low).

Dislike-> Somehow the haircut on the kimono outfit doesnt trigger my anti cutting hair hate. She needs to know which battles are worth dying on a hill and which are not (the entire connor thing could have been easily avoided and forgotten if she didnt fuel it), and related to that separating some things from chara and irl.

>>16684864
>Likes
Her eye tracking
Her model
Her voice
Her booba
>Dislikes
Her shitty e-girl personality

>>16697416
Based. Fuck this cunt and her shitty fanbase

>>16686421
Are there clips of her being mean to Kiara?

i remember when she started rapping during her debut (or one of her early streams) i had to turn it off because it was objectively dogshit, but i almost died laughing to seeing all her faggots on here pretending it was amazing
how can you unironically think that the line "killing is so kawaii" is good lmfao

>>16699111
>Murder Is So Fucking Kawaii
That was the cringiest original song ever made imo

>>16699199
>>Murder Is So Fucking Kawaii
jesus, it's even worse than i remembered kek

>>16684864
>Likes
Most songs
>Dislikes
Her voice, personality, friends, hatred of idol and hololive culture, zero effort put into any collabs that don't involve manlet sex tourists, "I'm above this" attitude, constant meltdowns over superchats and anything else, obvious contempt she has for Kiara, 90% of her streams (boring desu), the way she looks down on workmates who actually respect their jobs and the expectations that come with them, the fact she doesn't realize she's a cringe weeb rapper and gets mad no one takes her seriously

Also, i forgot but I dislike her constant lying and gaslighting of naive deadbeats

>>16699534
gaslightings a new one i havent seen before, i like it. the concept of being gaslit by a chuuba is funny as fuck

>>16699534
What has she lied about to deadbeats?

>>16699581
>Connor apologized
Also see >>16697439

>>16699534
if deadbraps are retarded enough to get gaslit, they deserve it.

>>16687351
>hard working
>cares to her co workers
Bullshit

>>16699483
Yeah basically this

>>16697408
>Connor talks shit about Hololive EN girls, calling them "talentless"
Did Connor actually say this or is it people reading too far into what he said during the Vshojo interview (forget with whom)? The only thing I guaged from the clip I've seen is Connor asking if being a member and having the backing of a entertainment company like Hololive makes gaining viewership and recognitaion easier than being an Indie. Given it was clumsily formulated (using Hololive as a success guage when interviewing a Vshojo member) and kinda innapropriate, I don't see any ill intention in what he asked or said unless you apply inference, and that is a stretch.

>>16700421
Idk exactly what he said but he's always been dismissive of hololive in general until after their first collab when he noticed the popularity he was getting from it. I think he was pretending to be a normie about the whole situation and then jumped on the hololive bandwagon after realising how much more traffic it would generate to their podcast.

>>16700421
The way he worded it , it implied that some might be talentless. In honesty I think the dumbfuck was trying to indirectly praise mousy but it got out in the most terrible way or his real thought on the matter escaped containment.

>>16697408
>>16697439

Calliope is obsessed with Connor.

>>16700421
I agree with this guy >>16700558 He's said doesn't watch anime anymore and is on a podcast about anime and such with a guy called TheAnimeMan who also doesn't watch anime, and phones it in the whole way. He says things he thinks would get him views/likes/clout and keep the gravy train rolling, that's it. The whole thing is simply a thing he does because it's his job, not because he likes it, and you can even see in the first Mori interview he's really bitchy and passive aggressive about some of it, generally dismissive. The worst part is Mori literally calls him "my friend", and you damn well know if something happened that threw her out of Hololive and returned her to her former level of fame, he'd keep in tough for only so long to keep up appearances before finally ghosting her.

>>16697439
>I'll totally call in to your birthday stream Ame, this time I won't forget, I'll redeem myself from last year!
Have you checked unarchived part of birthday stream yet?

>>16697439
this list is just going to keep growing isn't it?

>>16700857
Nah she just joined him in talking shit and looked down on hololive

>>16689360
>>16691005
There are lots of Brazilians in Japan

>>16700965
You know, I realized something. The interactions and cliques and other social phenomenon you can find in a simple highschool really do simply repeat themselves later in life again and again, Mori is the nerd girl who managed to get the popular kids to pay attention to her long enough to gain some of their favor, and now she's become that asshole-ish former loser that shits all over others to keep her new "status". Really makes you think.

>>16697439
>people are only NOW realizing how fake mori is
seriously, that first month wasn't enough for you?

>>16701075
Mori never liked vtubers in the first place. She barely knew anything about hololive and she probably thinks in the same way as Connor since her songs get tens of millions of views easily thanks to holofans

>>16700965
i missed this one, wheres is it

>>16701140
I know, but she never shat on them as much as she did before she started hanging out with those guys. The longer she's done it the worse it's gotten. Glad I never really watched her.

>>16701075
Well, she likes rap and used the word nigga unironically to fit in

>>16687351
Don't you EVER post here again until you learn some English

>>16699581
Nigger did you even skimm this thread? You literally can't miss this >>16697439
Proof that deadbeats are retards

>>16697439
She did sing godzilla at least twice anon, everything else is true and honest

>>16701483
i forgot ppl unironically believe this type of shit they see on vt lol.

>>16700421
It was with Mousey I think, I just hope that he made a bad comparison otherwise I'd hate to see what he says and thinks of Hololive in public.

>>16699029
Yes and there is way too much

>>16701902
Yeah, because in this case it's clearly true

>>16684864
>Like
Good work ethic
>Dislike
Shitty e-girl, desperate for attention, jealous and narcissistic personality one would get from having a bad work ethic.

Just tell your audience that you prefer 8 inch or larger cocks already and bite the bullet

>>16701335
Her low JP skills limit her from interacting with the JP branch unlike council or Kiara

>>16684864
Like: keeps pushing Gura to make songs
Dislike: she's a twitch thot wiggler

>>16702125
>>16700895
You have to be creditable to get more on your side

>>16702053
He made that comparison because he really believed people can get into hololive by lying in their cv and be successful while not being talented. It wouldn't make sense to use hololive as analogy. It wasn't a slip up because mouse gave him a way out but he doubled down.
Maybe Mori told him stuff about other HoloEN members, the usual badmouthing of work colleagues when you are chatting with friends.

>>16701075
It's why Gura is such sweet heart with spicy side... she grew up in whitest place in America. Explains a lot.

>>16701363
obligame

>>16702125
I don't get to use this one much, thanks

>>16684864
>Like
Look like my middle school crush Luka
>dislike
It has a burger dub voice

I like that her existence gets people so tilted that people who clearly dont watch her have to make up total lies.

>Oh yeah haha I totally have senpais I want to collab with I just coincidentally can't name any, can we please change the topic?
Song with Kanata? HoloDeath collabs with Rushia and Ollie?

>Oh yeah haha I totally have hololive songs I like, I just coincidentally can't name any... Uhhh.. Uhh OH YEAH HINOTORI, the one song I know, is clearly the best! (Thank god Kiara reminded me it exists)
In this world we pretend all her karaokes with hololive songs don't exist... such as singing Ahoy with IRyS..

>I'm gonna continue DOOM when I get a PC, no wait, I'm gonna continue DOOM next year, no wait, I'm gonna continue DOOM next year in Summer, no wait...
She completed Doom.

>I'm gonna sing Godzilla at 1m subs (never happened)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exaTlJW1jZk

I like her, but something that's always left a bad taste in my mouth is when she tries to act "too cool" and just comes across as being a dick. It really brings down the mood.

Off topic, but I really hope she hosts a Hololive Guilty Gear tournament. If they start collabing more with HoloStars I think there were a couple of them over there that had a decent grasp of the fundamentals. Maybe they could help the girls learn the basics.

>>16684864
I honestly liked her less after how she handled the Conner supa. Whoever sent it was right.

I don't mind the shit that she does as long as she doesn't negatively influence any of the other girls. But I'm guessing that's too much to ask for.

>>16693928
Based

>>16702313
In fairness, Mori did call into Ame’s birthday stream. It was just during the unarchived bit.

I can't take "rap" made by a white weeb woman serious. I mean, rap is kinda ridiculous in the first place, but when it comes from real niggers you can at least somewhat believe that some of them can actually back up some of their gun-slinging bitch-fucking toughguy braggadocio in real life.
What is a goddamn white woman supposed to rap about? Can't really do the reverse and talk about how many dudes she fucks and how huge (or tight?) her vagina is, can't really rap about how much of a hardass she is and how many niggaz she has glocked, because she'd be laughed out of the room. If she were confronted by any actual toughguys, nevermind actual ghetto niggers, she'd be folded over in a second and crumble like a wet paper. No wonder she bolted to Japan, the only place where people are even meeker than her and where they actually buy her "kakkoi" act.
So she raps about her cringe anime character act ("yeah uh...Imma kill you with my scythe and uh... take your souls..." sure sweetie, I'm quaking in my boots over here) which you take about as serious as a five year old larping as a power ranger, or she does her cringe emo introspective "woe is me" laments like the bullied theater kid she mentally still is.

>I can't take "rap" made by a white weeb woman serious. I mean, rap is kinda ridiculous in the first place, but when it comes from real niggers you can at least somewhat believe that some of them can actually back up some of their gun-slinging bitch-fucking toughguy braggadocio in real life.
>What is a goddamn white woman supposed to rap about? Can't really do the reverse and talk about how many dudes she fucks and how huge (or tight?) her vagina is, can't really rap about how much of a hardass she is and how many niggaz she has glocked, because she'd be laughed out of the room. If she were confronted by any actual toughguys, nevermind actual ghetto niggers, she'd be folded over in a second and crumble like a wet paper. No wonder she bolted to Japan, the only place where people are even meeker than her and where they actually buy her "kakkoi" act.
>So she raps about her cringe anime character act ("yeah uh...Imma kill you with my scythe and uh... take your souls..." sure sweetie, I'm quaking in my boots over here) which you take about as serious as a five year old larping as a power ranger, or she does her cringe emo introspective "woe is me" laments like the bullied theater kid she mentally still is.

>>16701075
>Mori is the nerd girl who managed to get the popular kids to pay attention to her long enough to gain some of their favor, and now she's become that asshole-ish former loser that shits all over others to keep her new "status"
That's exactly how I see her. If the cool kids aren't around she reverts back to her other persona. If she's called out on the change in behavior she gets defensive and makes up bullshit. It's classic HS shit.

>>16706635
>I don't mind the shit that she does as long as she doesn't negatively influence any of the other girls. But I'm guessing that's too much to ask for.

>>16707421
Copers will say it's gap moe

>>16707471
Kys wojac

>>16702545
Cowgirls are best girls!
>pic related, irl Gura

>>16707973
>look up gura lewds 1000+ entries
>not a single one of scout
such a waste of a pure sex design
>>16707850
ngl mori has gap moe and her stubborness got her so far, but now it's about to reach a point where it starts harming her. it's like >>16700880 says, once this leech sucked her dry, he'll drop her like popular kids in HS do with the nerds once they have their homework done and passed the exams.

>like
Model
Singing
Editting/production abilities
>dislike
The fact that she doesn't seem to like being a vtuber
The stick up her ass
The ''stick'' up her ass

It would be better for all sides involved if she left the mori character and just streamed/made music as her roommate while still working production for HoloEN

>>16708542
>while still working production for HoloEN
>wanting more of her trashy lyrics

>>16696070
gotta love how kiara and sana just tell people they don't like to fuck off, truly the role models that the rest of them need for dealing with the sisters here

>>16708616
what, you don't think "Murder is so fucking Kawaii" is a SICK line?

>>16708679
>Meanwhile Gura says Thank you for 42069th time to red aka supa calling her lazy
Why is she that based?

>>16708616
She wrote most of the HoloEN original songs since then. She got better in that regard.

>>16700421
He was unironically right, literally everyone here says the same thing every week but because a youtuber said it it's Bad

>>16701075
seems like my fat cousin who got buff, he used to be pretty chill, now he's a fucking narcissistic asshole and talks about lifting all the time

> You know, I realized something. The interactions and cliques and other social phenomenon you can find in a simple highschool really do simply repeat themselves later in life again and again, Mori is the nerd girl who managed to get the popular kids to pay attention to her long enough to gain some of their favor, and now she's become that asshole-ish former loser that shits all over others to keep her new "status". Really makes you think.

>>16709056
he'll probably cool down in a year or so, there's only so much to talk about on the subject of lifting and he'll run into that soon enough

>>16708934
>because a youtuber said it it's Bad
Unironically yes. Difference between a public online persona and worthless anonymous posters on a Rwandan rrat cooking blog

I just don't want any more real life 3d interaction with my chubbas. If I wanted real life 3d I would go watch those streamers. There's a reason why I didn't watch streamers of any kind before I got into vtubers 2 years ago. Also notice how people dont complain nearly as much as any 2d male collabs, it's because people don't mind 2d.

>>16708272
I really don't understand it. I know you want the fame, but to what end? If it's money, then fine, do what you want to do, but don't fuck the current gig up for those around you by dragging your shit-flinging inword. No one wants that kind of entertainment from Hololive. If it's the general fame you're after, why the fuck would you want to attach yourself to that sort of fame when you have the gachikoi, simps, goslings, and corporate fans already eating out of the palm of your hand? Do you really think you're going to be happier when even more people know your name? There can be some crazies in the neckbeard mouthbreather groups that flock to Mori currently, but they currently like her for her, not for her cool hard attitude. The fags out in the normal world will abandon you in minutes once something else pops up on their instagram/twitter feed while the fuckers you're getting here will be diehard fans for life if you don't piss them off.
The many people that sit through superchat readings should be good indication of that. Stop thinking what could be and start enjoying what is, those fags at TT aren't gonna make your fanbase better or your life change instantly.

The high of Mori is starting to fade for me. Where are the forms to fill out for acquiring a new oshi because I think mines broken now.

I just want her to fucking settle as a streamer. Like, could just be in the middle of a random chill stream and she has to bring up some bullshit thing she's overanalyzed or wants to change about her content going forward. It's never big enough to a warrant anything more than a shrug, but she puts on this dull lethargic tone of voice when she does and brings the mood of the stream down massively. Even if it's basically nothing, the idea of a change in content or going back on what they do when you're already enjoying what you're getting is a universally shit feeling.

Imagine if every update for a game you love had an announcement that began with "we've thought about it and decided to change the way we deliver content," nothing actually changes, but that sort of precedent leaves a shit taste in the community's mouth for a week. That's Calli, every time she fucking wants to "change" something.

>>16684864
I dislike pretty much everything. Messy design, absolutely inhumanly autistic wigger roommate, which ruins the character even more, drags males into vtubing and generally disrespects the hobby at every turn. she was ok back when there was very little of her

>>16708740
Gura is good at maintaining opsec and hiding her power level. She's quick to spot shitpost and trolls pretty fast thanks mostly to her past experience and internet activity pre-hololive. This doesn't mean she hasn't got a treshold or a limit though, she just reacts to different things. During the HoloEN Amongus stream, when Ina killed Kiara, it was clear that a nerve was touched when the others suspected her of being the imposter and bought Inas ruse despite Gura having witnessed the murder. She even said that it "got to her" without going all too deep in the details. It's easy to tell that she was a "back-of-the-class" kid in school and may have had to deal with being ostracized or even bullied which explains why she's kind of an introverted and guarded despite being very social and talkative on stream.

>>16711538
What are you? A psychologist? This is too accurate.

>>16684864
I don't like her at all.

>>16684864
>like
nothing
>dislike
everything

>>16697408
>condom money for conner
FUCKING KEK
That's actually hilarious and only something one of you fags would do.

>like
Her design and tracking
>dislike
Habitual liar, acts like she's hot shit by giving attention to antis and then backpedals hard so they end up with two "wins"

>>16710935
once a cuck always a cuck. Maybe next time, you use your fucking brain when you choose your oshi

>>16700421
Connor just said that if you are in Hololive you don't need talent because the brand name itself will carry you. He didn't say that the holos are talentless but he meant that IF YOU ARE TALENTLESS the holo name is enough to bump your ass even if you don't deserve it.

I don't get the drama about this statement which is completely true

>>16697408
Is this actually her or is this one of those fake accounts? Its pattern matches Pekora's, but I don't see many of the girls having a publicly viewable account with the same pattern, and without a confirmed one from the EN side, we're not even sure they's have the EN tag at the end.

>>16712005
anya... holostars.... aki...

>Is this actually her or is this one of those fake accounts? Its pattern matches Pekora's, but I don't see many of the girls having a publicly viewable account with the same pattern, and without a confirmed one from the EN side, we're not even sure they's have the EN tag at the end.

>>16684864
what I like is calliope mori
what I dislike is a stinky welsh twink named connor

She can be entertaining when she lets loose and gets goofy, and has the most entertaining rage/panic moments too.
But she also has the thinnest skin in Hololive and needs to stop taking the bait.

>>16710865
I think it is because she never truly had friends until way into college and most of them online friends and her not being good at picking up who is a good person or not makes her easy target for leeches.

>>16712162
Anya intentionally did this to herself because she hates holofags, which is based. don't ask why she joined

>>16712005
Anon something being completely true doesn't mean you blurt it out at the dinner table whenever you feel like it
Now will you PLEASE stop mentioning German oven efficiency and eat your turkey

>>16712559
>don't ask why she joined
why did she join, then?

>>16712657
If they were so efficient why didn't they kill them all

>>16688019
GURA CALM THE FUCK DOWN

>>16684864
I dislike that she let us all know liking connor is the most important thing about watching her streams,

>>16712244
I think that's just common among rappers and even some heavy metal artists. Despite their bravado they can be pretty sensitive, Mori though I think just needs to learn how to double down or ignore the bait like you said, yeah.

>>16685397
Mori herself has literally written song lyrics about how much of a dishonest backstabbing bitch she is

>>16712005
That's what I've been thinking and trying to piece together (shifting through all the obvious antis-, drama- and schizoposts) whether or not there is some actual merit to many on /vt/ being upset at Connor/Mori. From what I've noticed, it's that Connor might not think some things through before formulating an opinion or asking a question (due to the way he can vaguely refer to subjects without elaboration which in turn leaves some of his statements open for interpretation, and that can be a fuse for drama fuel) so he should really think before he speaks and better understand the audience. Mori also has a right to be upset about the Connor antis and shit-posts that people bring into her streams and even super-chat her about, but as many people in this thread pointed out, she could have handled it a bit better or within character from a professional standpoint. Her current reaction kinda fed the trolls and felt like she was punishing the other fans and members by implementing harsher rules for super-chat readings because she got mad (or was told by management to implement these measures as a way of "cooling off". Possible that JChad realized how much stress Mori was currently going through so she didn't need anymore extra shit to burden her talents shoulders). Didn't do much favor either that she said all the anti money donated to her was going straight to the person being shit talked when the super-chat read "condom money for Connor".

>Like
Nothing
>Dislike
Voice and speaking mannerisms

I cant stand listening to her

>>16684864
>Like
Her goth/death aesthetic
>Dislike
Her tryhard forced yo bro persona

>>16708681
This can't actually be a line from her music right ?

>>16684864
>Likes
Nothing
>Dislikes
Doesn't care about Hololive

>>16684864
>likes

>dislikes
her

>>16712075
Yeah it is 100% hers, even on reddit they were celebrating her ''twitch debut'' Also on one recent stream she talked about the new rules of akasupas and said ''If you send money to talk shit about one of my friends, i'm gonna use that money and send it to them'' further confirming it.

>>16712075
She hasn't officially linked it anywhere, but it's probably hers. She confirmed she had a twitch account and was going to start doing stuff there, it was created recently, the naming format matches up with Ame's unused but confirmed twitch account(https://www.twitch.tv/watsonamelia_hololiveen)), and the only other suspected Mori twitch account was confirmed fake by having a creation date of 2018.

More telling than all that though is that she hasn't denied sending the subs when Connor has talked about her doing it and there are a bunch of clips of it. Furthermore, she said that she will send hate SC money to the person being hated on the very next stream after the incident.

>>16713396
Where have you been, this was common around debut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y3xh8gs24c

Anons, do you think she's here and reading all of this ?

>>16713600
Probably not, unless she were still a no-name streamer there'd be zero reason to come here and shill or read what people say on her when probably 99.9999% of her fans on Youtube seem to love her.
Really she doesn't even need to do much at this point, she just needs to move on and people will forget this even happened 2 weeks from now. A few shitposts here wont impact her vtubing career for shit if the original TT podcast didn't halt her progress either.

>>16713600
With her ego? 1000%.

>>16713567
We'll see if this actually has any kind of blowback in terms of the oil baron SC'ers in the next month or two. The kind of people who blow hundreds/thousands on an anime woman are not the most sane and most definitely read everything discussed about her, her roommate, and the actions of them, so I could see a few bigger names just disappearing from her chat.

>>16711538

>>16713600
With how dumb she is giving trolls attention, definitely. She's definitely not going to reddit or youtube comments section cause everyone there is kissing her feet and being Yes-men

>>16713396
it's obviously a joke lyric laughing at her own design concept of "kawaii anime girl" and "literal death." It's even self-deprecating. Her music just sucks in general but I give this one a pass because it's very effective, on-purpose cringe.

>>16697408
>that 250 superchat

>>16711538
glad I'm not the only schizo who thought gura had a silent breakdown over that game. Not sure I buy the tie-in here at all, but Gura was super distressed that she was not being trusted

>>16714019
cope

>>16713916
And twitter holy shit twitters simps are just pathetic

>>16714105
Wasn't that the same stream that Ina and Kiara heard Ame and Gura arguing while they were dead? Gura was getting pretty fucking heated during that convo.

>>16704891
Fuck off, deadbeat. Deadbeats like this are pro m*le and don’t understand the culture of Hololive and idols. Mori and them are no different and think her yabs with TT and Connur are healthy for Hololive when m*les can only ever be leeches and hurt the female talent. Her fan base is a bunch of shitty Twitch e-boys that think white rap is amazing so never trust the judgement of deadbeat outsiders.

>likes
The drama she brings is fun to watch
Can wank to fanart
>dislikes
Her music
Her lack of respect for her audience, coworkers, or brand
Her lack of knowledge of what the grim reaper is
Heraelf

Is she friend with Joey?

>>16714105
>>16711538
Link? Preferably to an all pov compilation clip but also gura in particular with timestamp

She's not a friend of the guy who went out of his way to shit on Nene of all people at least, right?

>>16684864
>like
a few of her songs
>dislike
everything else and above all her entire personality

>>16685260
this

>>16714105
>Gura was super distressed that she was not being trusted
Yup, and you could easily tell how guilty Ame felt afterwards which resulted in the GurAme moment >>16714276 mentioned. While Kino stream material, you could easily tell Amelia was also hintingly "IRL" apologizing to Gura and felt like a shitty friend while Guras salt and feeling of betrayal towards Ame was noticeable. But this is a chapter of a book that would do Mori well to read. The way Gura handled the situation was very professional from an idol standpoint. She acknowledged her real feelings while simultaneously maintaining her composure and character in front co-workers/friends and a live audience, let her emotions cool and then passed it off as a water under the bridge moment. Granted it's not really the same experience Mori is going through, but my point is how to keep your cool and approach personally stressful situations when you're "on the clock", so to say.

>>16713567
>Furthermore, she said that she will send hate SC money to the person being hated on the very next stream after the incident
Oh she already backtracked on that.

>>16715681
I'd call it less of a backtrack, and more trying to discourage people from using the "system".

>>16715794
I have a feeling that she won't even donate at all.

>>16714956
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al8l8J2qDRA&t=4287s
Starts here early in round 3 and goes on for about 20-25 mins.

>>16715794
spineless, kek

>>16714184
Yeah she would never make a song that's over the top cringe like that for shits and giggles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_cDJENafV4

>>16715888
Forgot to mention in case I fucked up the link, the timestamp is 1:11:27

>>16715475
Is this a joke? Gura's behavior was anything but professional. Getting angry at losing a videogame and making your coworkers apologize for winning is awful behavior. The moment when they all had to say sorry for playing the game properly and distrusting Gura's testimony while Gura seethed was enough evidence that Gura is still an immature womanchild at heart.

>>16715794
It was also pointed out that, given that a big chunk of the money from superchats goes to cover and youtube first, it would be extremely stupid for her to do it even as an act of pettiness because she would pretty much be paying out of pocket to let shitposts live in her head. She's already going to be paying for this for a while since there's no way said shitposters are letting this one go anytime soon, but actually following through with it would probably be the stupidest thing she could do.

Again I must reiterate, nobody would give a shit about Connor if Mori had t fucking sperged out so bad. The other girls get hit with this shit too but take it down professionally, ame and botan have both death with it. Moris insanely thin skin is the problem, not even so much connor

I like/hate that she made me laugh at adam sandler. I also like the fact she would be a total objective loser without hololive (and her weird tastes/opinions make her subjectively a loser/nerd) but this board is apparently full of even lower forms of life that consider her a 'stacy' merely because she's not obviously autistic.

>>16715888
>>16715989
Arigatou

>>16716187
>nobody would give a shit about Connor if Mori had t fucking sperged out so bad
I would. Cancerous anituber leeches have no place near Hololive. It's why I hate Ollie, because she keeps trying to open the door and let Connor in to leech. If you're a Holo you should stick to Hololive, if you want to be Connors twitch thot accessory then be that, but pick a lane, you can't be in Hololive and do what Ironmouse does.

>>16716272
She's a dork but she's still Chad af. Literally no one here would have the balls to move to Japan to become an indie rapper.

>>16716391
You're hilarious. HoloEN was never gonna be what you wanted unicorn. Just go back to gen 3 mkay?

>>16715794
im gonna berate Kiara so Calli gives her money lmao fuck you calli

>>16716025
>Gura's behavior was anything but professional. Getting angry at losing a videogame
Gura wasn't getting angry at losing (they won in the end and she was cleared after round 2) she explained why she was getting noticeably peeved or emotional about not being suspected. She was the only one to witness the whole thing but Ina put on such a great act that the majority of the other girls chose Inas side over Guras despite her being the only one being there when Kiara was killed. Imagine how frustrating it would be (even in a video game) when you actually have the correct facts at hand but others choose the evidence to the contrary based on mainly subjective descriptions of said event?
>making your coworkers apologize for winning is awful behavior.
You make it sound like the girls were forced to apologize by some outside pressure Isn't it just proper social etiquette to acknowledge when you've been in the wrong, especially if the person whom you either sided against or chose not to believe is present and it happened a brief moment ago? Not to do so would be kinda crude and may infer a "Wuz wrong but LoL, don't care!" attitude which is kind of a shitty attitude to have towards friends and coworkers which isn't a good public impression or character trait.

>>16717357
>>Gura wasn't getting angry at losing (they won in the end and she was cleared after round 2) she explained why she was getting noticeably peeved or emotional about not being suspected. She was the only one to witness the whole thing but Ina put on such a great act that the majority of the other girls chose Inas side over Guras despite her being the only one being there when Kiara was killed. Imagine how frustrating it would be (even in a video game) when you actually have the correct facts at hand but others choose the evidence to the contrary based on mainly subjective descriptions of said event?
this is like every round of among us dude. its the literal point of the game

>>16717357
So she was mad that Ina is better at the game than she is?

>>16718128
I'm just looking at the situation from her point of view. She didn't really take the whole game on a personal level up until that point.

>>16714462
Based

>>16716391
Honestly, I dropped Mouse because of the Canur shit.

>>16710865
>The fags out in the normal world will abandon you in minutes once something else pops up

you literally describe most vtuber fans. Actual people with connections and money are more valuable than your akasupas to new shiny vtuber.

>>16715983
>people unironically like this steaming pile of shit

>>16686853
Why is it always Conner? Anime Zone and man can cheat you know.

>>16719517
>Honestly, I dropped Mouse because of the Canur shit.
Yeah, even I warned people to say away from Vshojo because they're cancer

Not gonna let this thread die so fast

>>16686685
Share the link fag

>>16684864
I can't even find myself hate fapping to her porn, she's just a nasty cunt personality wise, and I usually love hatefapping to anime girls I despise but I guess anime is different because it's all acting for a planned story

Likes: Her friend, Gura
Dislikes: Fake (her roommate just recently liked a Tweet about making a bad song just to see your fans try to defend it).

Oh nyo deadmeats, that's a red flag

>>16723811
what's more to talk about? mori is a compulsive liar and it is agreed her leaving hololive would be the best action for her and everyone else.

>>16724418
you gotta let the rrats grow, man

>>16684864
I like that she's a cute chuuni dork. Also like how spiteful she is to retarded faggots

I dislike the amount of spergs she attracts and concern trolls that bitch when she dunks on them. Kiara has a similar problem of faggots shitting on her or trying to take her out of context.

>>16710935
It's like filing a divorce, except way simpler. Just break off your membership, accept your losses, and find someone better. It took me a while (too long) to figure out, but I got wise eventually.

>>16721489
I don’t see anime zone cheating unless mori’s Roommate his hotter than his fiancé.

>>16684864
I like her great big mommy milkers. I mean they're fucking huge and I just want to bat then around like a cat with a low hanging Christmas ornament. Goddamn those things are massive.

I dislike that she doesn't do irl titty streams like the knight and that it's so hard to find footage of her playing big titty teenage girl no. 3 in her highschool plays. Girl that age with tits that size, it's a fucking crime not to show those things off.

>>16713322
Connor had plenty of time to consider his words considering in a followup stream with Mouse he doubled down, with both of them throwing up the flimsy shield of "b-b-but it was out of context!!" (after which he immediately proceed to revalidate what he said before anyway). There is no deeper context, that's just what his fans and deadbeats throw up as a cope in his defence of him being a complete cunt.

>>16715888
I mean to be fair to gura, i just watched this and no one even listened to a word she said before dismissing her and making shit up against her
It's not killing her or believing Ina, it's the sheer disrespect of it all

>>16730381
Gura is dumb as fuck. The only way to prove her innocence would be to die, not trying to defend people. Ina is dumb too. She should've killed kronii then and accused Gura of being the killer AGAIN to get her hanged.

Why so many hate on my oshi now?

>>16721987
vshojo has always been cancer. i tried giving some of their members a pass, but the shit they got themselves into disilliusioned me from any kind of redemption any of their members could have had.

>>16730381
They also literally didn't pay attention to a word she said all the time.
Just realized how disrespectful and annoying the EN girls are compared to the JP ones.
Even when there fighting hard they don't just completely ignore and dismiss a person like the EN thots.
They sound like bitchy mean girls

>>16731859
she had a meltdown because people got mad that her twitch streamer boyfriend called nene a whore

>>16732393
and it's true

>like
Her design and her editing skills, also her work ethic.
>dislike
She can be pretty cringy at times, and she’s a drama magnet because she has a difficult time ignoring particular comments.

>>16732393
>>16731859
Wrong one. That was animeman or whatever, this is about Connor.

>>16732393
is she fucking everyone on tt now?

>>16721392
Obsessed gachikoi and goslings won't just drop her out of nowhere. The people superchatting you thousands of dollars a month might have mental problems, but they aren't going to just stop unless some real serious shit happens to them personally. Instead you'd rather have connections to some shit-flinging ironicfags who will cease to be relevant in the next 5 years and take a risk at losing good money you're getting now. Give it a month or two to actually see if this will affect her SC numbers.

I respect her newfound streamer hustle. She has probably become the best "streamer" in EN recently and has been streaming a fuckton of hours.
I dislike her content in general. I just get no enjoyment of watching her and she makes me cringe a lot in a bad way. Also she was kind of a cunt to Kiara sometimes and Kiara is my oshi so it's like, ehhh...

>>16733679
Kiara was smart to break the gimmick with her.

>>16733175
Niggers are not even fact checking now, the peak of /vt/

>>16721392
>Actual people with connections and money are more valuable than your akasupas to new shiny vtuber.

The problem is that Calli has nothing to offer those people. She flat out isn't talented at music and only found popularity due to being a vtuber. Without it she's just a fat white girl who happens to be a mediocre rapper.

>Likes
Collabs and conversations
>Dislikes
Her rapping

She has a good singing voice but it just doesn't work for rapping.

>>16734150
>isn’t talented at music
HAHAHAHAHA

>>16734260
She tries too hard to ape Eminem's flow and cadence, and it doesn't work.

>>16701075
>Mori is the nerd girl who managed to get the popular kids to pay attention to her long enough to gain some of their favor, and now she's become that asshole-ish former loser that shits all over others to keep her new "status". Really makes you think.
Spot on. Its like when someone and their friends got bullied but at some point one of them gained popularity and joined the bullies and now shits all over their former friends. Tale as old as every high school in America.

>>16734281
Anon do you know anything about music theory? She really, really isn't. She's not bad, but she's by no means talented, she isn't anything most people would go out of their way to listen if she didn't have the "hololive" "cute anime girl streamer" branding attached to her.

>>16712997
This. One time mention is fine. Gushing over him constantly and how you can't wait to go on their awful show is just annoying.

>>16733186
She's a women who interacted with males.
If that's not sex I don't know what is.

>>16735637
Post your 3x3

>>16716025
>>16717357
>>16718297
It's not that gura was a sore loser. She was trying to talk and they all just talked over her and ignored her. She knew what exactly was happening and they didn't care than she knew the answer. It's a high school reaction just like Moris. She was the little kid being bullied and ignored again.

>>16699029
LOL!!!!! which ones aren't??!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEMSA2xKrN8

>>16697408
>Somebody then gave Mori a $250 akasupa with the message "Condom money for Connor"
Holy shit, does anyone have a clip of Mori reacting to it?
Actulaly has anyone made a compilation of Mori flipping out to this shit? Couldn't find one and archive treading for crumbs is taking too long

>>16736322
You can easily tell who in this thread never had friends

>>16736565
she just made a "new" after that incident and sent the money to conor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM

>>16684864
>Like
Her model
>Dislike
Literally everything else. From her voice, demeanor, personality, singing, her lyrics, how she's a cunt, etc.

>>16697439
>Yes Kiara I listened to your King cover it was great... Wait what do you mean it doesn't exist??
This never happened, would've been based though.
>Actually Kiara I TOTALLY watched the original song you made for me a long time ago, you see I just PRETENDED to not have watched it for... reasons. (This has nothing to do with the fact that I got chewed out by everyone for being a huge piece of shit, no no)
This did though, probably worth noting that Kiara herself went on record saying she didn't believe Calli, said something along the lines of "like, why would she lie about it...?". And when even your friend/coworker won't cover your ass...

>>16721392
Counterpoint:

>>16737141
>This never happened
https://streamable.com/eknk5y

>>16733679
>Fuckton of hours.
Oh, you mean the regular amount of hours Kiara and another 10 or so JP members put out every month, and have put out every month for the last year or two? I get where you're coming from because her personal focus is her music so her giving up time to focus on streaming for her fans is an important step, but the hustle takes a lot more than changing for a month or two.

>>16710865
She's just a narcissistic self-loather with a rebellious streak. She doesn't hate Hololive and fans due to any legit grievances, she hates it because it's estabilished and corporate.

I don't doubt that Conner tells her shit about how it's all "lame and fake, maaann, they just exploiting you" in private and the dumb bimbo believes he's being genuine and isn't just being an irreverent shit just to convince himself he's cooler than everyone.

>>16737490
Anon Kiara and the highest streaming JPs are just not built like mortal (wo)men, it still IS a fuckton, even if not uniquely impressive. What makes it impressive in my eyes is that she went from 5% to like, 30%

>>16737369
I don't know what surprises me most, that I forgot about that, or that she got away with it.

>>16737578
At that point, isn't that part of the 'brand' of her roommate and shouldn't be a part of her brand as a Hololive content creator? It's her lack of separation (which admittedly would be pretty hard for something like this) which brings this kind of shit in then.

>>16737980
Yep, but it's not her brand, it's her true self. That's the issue, her being ironic about it is just denial.

>>16737315
>proving him right

>>16738666
>literally has a career because the akasupa donaters found her roommate account

Dumb bnuy poster.

>>16712005
>I don't get the drama about this statement which is completely true
/vt/ doesn't want to admit that Connor is right. That's basically it. Even after he addressed this and apologized, /vt/ is still on his dick about it and even bothering Mori.

>>16739477
Hi Connor

>>16739477
>addressed this and apologized
Did he ever? Idk, I don't watch it, I just have the thing about Mori saying he personally apologized to all of EN thing to go off of, which is a ridiculous and weird claim to start with but also now demonstrably false.

>>16739477
>/vt/ doesn't want to admit that Connor is right
right or wrong doesn't matter about it. he's talked shit about talents at hololive if he just talked shit about management that would be fine, most managers are retarded but then has the nerve to leech off of it. he's a retarded hypocrite at best, a manipulative sociopath at worst.
>Even after he addressed this and apologized, /vt/ is still on his dick about it
read the thread and look up the links that were posted, the faggot doubled down on it.
>inb4 threadreader
no, for real, watch the clips, watch the vods posted
>bothering Mori
she's socially inept to the point she willingly interacts with him despite publicly shittalking her and her genmates. the argument about his apology in private has already been debunked. if she wants to interact with him, she should do so in private instead of giving him another platform to shit up

>>16694230
Nice try burger other countries actualy have culture america only has femminism and sjw shit

>>16740533
>he's talked shit about talents at hololive
How. All he said is "you're pretty much set after joining hololive". He never directly attacked the talents or even implied they're worthless.
>but then has the nerve to leech off of it.
Leeching off what? Hololive? Lemme guess, you forgot it was Cover that reached out to TT and planned the collab and not the other way around?
>he's a retarded hypocrite at best, a manipulative sociopath at worst.
How is he a manipulative sociopath? Legit what did he remotely do to make you think he's an irredeemable fucking person? You are just letting this guy live in your head rent free and the fact that niggers like you feel the need to bother Mori and tell her to stay away from him says a lot.

>>16741999
>All he said is "you're pretty much set after joining hololive"
The context required for it to not be a lame thing to say gets smaller every time.
Can we reduce it any further? Maybe get Hololive out of there too since we're skipping most of it anyway
>All he said is "you're pretty much set after joining [an agency]"
There, that'll paint Connor in an even better light which is very important to us since this is a competition to suck his dick for some reason

>>16742787
>that'll paint Connor in an even better light which is very important to us since this is a competition to suck his dick for some reason
I have no strong feelings for him. I just don't tolerate manipulative schizo bullshit. For fuck sake the context of that clip was supposedly JOB APPLICATIONS and how much money you get from Cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysjr7oBjYMM

>>16743625
>You don't need to be good to be successful.
>You just have to be part of Hololive
>You should lie on your job application because once you get in, it won't matter what your ability actually is.
>Asked to change the subject by a vtuber because she doesn't want to burn a bridge for no reason.
That's the original, followed up with
>You don't know how this shit works, therefore your opinion is worthless.
>Gets called stupid by others.
>Deflects the fact that people are pissed that he implied there are Hololive members that don't deserve their spot.
>Defends himself by saying 'Nah, you misunderstood me brah' and says the opposite of what he originally said.
Yeah, fuck that.

>>16744169
You are purposely misconstruing what he's saying just so it can fit your narrative.

>>16744253
I just watched that video. I watched the original clip and the discussion prior to the main section that got clipped. He tries to deflect 3 different ways in this video to redeem himself. Either way, I don't really want this faggot or any other drama-embroiled youtuber working with the talents because he's here for some of that shit. That along with the ironic weeb schtick are exactly what makes him money and I hate both of those things so I'd prefer for it to not have any connection with Hololive.

>>16744253
What did he misconstrue? What parts does he need to skip of the full context to get the right picture?

>>16684864
I don't like anything about her in particular, I think

Production on her first song was cool, but I don't think that was her

>>16744421
>I don't really want this faggot or any other drama-embroiled youtuber working with the talents because he's here for some of that shit
Yeah good fucking luck convincing Mori and Ollie. Because as far as I know they don't care what you think of him. Mori especially since she's doubling down on her stance.

>>16743625
That has to be the worst "apology" video I've ever seen.

Instead of admitting he was wrong and he has since changed his mind, he tries to spin it off like everyone misunderstood him, or took him "out of context".

What he said needs no context. It was obvious disrespect to hololive talents no matter how you spin it.

>>16744673
Yes, and now my Oshi is getting retarded comments in her stream and stupid superchats sent to her to such a degree that she meekly had to ask if her fans cared about a stupid paid sponsorship collab with a guy. No one would have cared, but this drama is spreading outword from Mori and I fucking hate it. I wouldn't have even noticed it beyond a little bit of ranting on /vt/ had that shit not seeped into the stream I actually care about.

>>16744735
Mouse was right there the whole time and obviously she thinks otherwise.

>>16744852
It's called being polite to your friend even if they're wrong. Also who cares what that twitch hoe thinks, she probably also hates hololive

>>16744930
>Also who cares what that twitch hoe thinks, she probably also hates hololive
Yeah that's why she collab'd with Mori, brought Ollie on speak of the devil, and has watched Hololive/Holostars clips on stream.
Holy shit you don't know anything about her at all.

>>16745057
That sounds like leech behaviour to me.
The real question here is if she participated with virtue signalling during the Nux debacle, and if the answer is Yes, then she can get fucked.

>>16744852
>Oh, you don't like when I actively try to burn bridges on stream with you?
>How about instead of saying 'Yah, I was wrong to say that once you're in, it takes zero talent to get money' I'll just double down that I was in the right and everyone else is just misunderstanding.
What a great 'friend'. Fuck they clout chasing faggots, I can respect the grind but I sure as fuck don't like the content and want it nowhere near my cute girl GFE simulator entertainment.

>>16745163
The nux debacle? I don't even know what that was but how many layers of retarded drama are we on right now? Feels like 4.

>>16745163
>That sounds like leech behaviour to me.
Supporting Hololive is leech behavior? Have we really reached the point that Indies can't even talk about Hololive without cries of leeching from you pansies?

>>16745319
If she's virtue signalling for clout despite being wrong, then she's a leech.

>>16745426
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about he means when she randomly watches Holo clips and reacts to them like a goodamn schoolgirl.

>>16745426
That's not what I fucking meant. I mean her collabing with Mori and Ollie and watching clips on stream and laughing at them. What is your fucking problem. THAT'S leeching?

>>16745268
Not that anon, but Nux kicked open two doors with his shit
1) How terrible Vshojo is at both protecting their info for talents, and how to do damage control
2) How woefully misinformed and out of the loop each of the talents were with each other and "managers"
Mousey crying, Vshojo thanking Nux, Nyanners gaslighting everyone, Veibae acting like she knew it all along, Melody on full damage control

>>16745670
He's a whiny retard who's trying to conflate the real issue. Mouse is fine, Connor is not.

>>16745627
>>16745670
Well? Did she attack Nux doing the debacle with him?
If the answer is yes, then she's a leech no matter how you put it. They'd be attention whores who would go as far as spreading negativity for attention.

>>16745829
I don't fucking care about the Nux shit. Now answer me. How is Mouse leeching just from watching Hololive clips and laughing at them?

>>16745911
>I don't fucking care about the Nux shit. Now answer me
Lel nice deflection retard

>>16745964
You can't answer a simple question.
How is Mouse leeching just from collabing with Mori and Ollie and watching Hololive clips and laughing at them?
And BTW. I don't care about Nux. At all. This isn't about him. This is about Mouse.

>>16746142
>This isn't about him. This is about Mouse.
Yes, I'm talking specifically about Mouse, and asking you if whether or not she attacked Nux just to virtue signal for clout. Seems like you know the answer already.

>>16746259
I don't know and I don't fucking care anymore. I moved on. There's your answer. Now you answer my question.
How is Mouse leeching just from collabing with Mori and Ollie and watching Hololive clips and laughing at them?

>>16746259
It's entirely irrelevant to what he's asking you faggot, stop deflecting.

>>16746342
>I don't know and I don't fucking care anymore.
Kek

>>16746433
How is Mouse leeching just from collabing with Mori and Ollie and watching Hololive clips and laughing at them?
I can do this all night, anon. Just answer the question.

So I looked into the Nuxtaku and apparently he publicized some shit about how people were getting doxxed and swated by people pretending to be Vshojo management because Vshojo wasn't doing anything and it endangered other streamers. But then him posting that endangered Vshojo talents or some shit, and apparently he didn't ask them for permission but did ask for management's permission.
So basically everyone is was a dipshit? Idk, doesn't actually seem like a big deal. It was months ago and nothing meaningful came out of it either, it seems.
Also seems to be entirely unrelated to Hololive. In a Hololive thread.

>>16746477
I'll answer for this retard. Reaction content is lazy content. It's fine to do it once or twice per month, but if it happens more regularly then it's questionable.

I don't know if mouse is guilty of this or not, just giving context.

>>16745815
exactly this argument went on a fucking tangent as soon as mouse was brought into it. can we stick to the real issue here? (that connor is a dick)

>>16747977
Thank you. Fucking lord.

lol this fag >>16744253
this
>>16744169
>>16744421
is 100% a factual breakdown of what what said and how it was said and how he reacted to it
the guy's a cunt, and mori agrees with him

>>16744169
>You should lie on your job application because once you get in, it won't matter what your ability actually is
Ironically this is a much greater problem in society in general. Incompetent people get hired into big corporations everywhere, and they can't lose their job as long as they don't commit any big yabs.

The difference is that in hololive, the amount you get paid is very much related to your performance. Think 10% base salary, 90% performance bonus. And you can't even "lie" about having an already successful channel in your application, since it's all on the internet.

So not only was this statement disrespectful to hololive, it is also a completely pointless point to make.

>>16749171
Yeah but he NEEDS to have a point though. That's what "influencers" do, and that's what he is. It doesn't matter if it's blatantly wrong, retarded, or controversial (a good thing for him), but he simply must say something at all times to keep eyes on him and keep making himself more money. He's an occupational dramafag.

>>16749298
And it all comes back to the fact that Calli would rather defend vociferously, lie on the behalf of and dismiss the concerns of a longstanding fan of her all for the benefit of said shitstirrer dramafag "fishing for content" youtuber. At the expense of her genmates, branch and the company she works for as a whole and of course the entire fandom.
>b-but why you hate mori nao!!!
Her actions tell me that she agrees with connor's sentiment.

>>16749634
>Her actions tell me that she agrees with connor's sentiment.
You know can respect someone's opinion on a certain topic while disagreeing with it, right.

>>16749709
So it's okay and a good thing that Mori promotes 2/3 guys that have actively shat on hololive talents aka others whom she professes to be friends with?
ok
Kinda strange since he was calling her talentless as well. Some people are are like that I guess.

>>16749956
>Kinda strange since he was calling her talentless as well
I'm like 90% sure Connor already knows about Mori's past life.

>>16749298
True. He always has to give his 2 cents on everything. For example, his multiple rants about how Japanese society is flawed and how he would "change" things, and this is like within 1 year of him moving to Japan.

>>16750274
>his multiple rants about how Japanese society is flawed and how he would "change" things, and this is like within 1 year of him moving to Japan.
You sure that's not him bantering as a way to relieve stress? because I highly doubt he's serious if you're telling the truth.

>>16750274
I used to have that podcast on when I would clean my room, sort laundry, you know tedious shit. As it went on I kept noticing that the welsh manlet in particular kept bringing up extraneous shit into increasingly dwindling discussions about anime, manga and japan itself. He kept trying to inject into the conversation tedious and banal woke talking points completely unbidden and nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
>and how he would "change" things
The guy's a 22yr old zoomer despite his aged look, he doesn't know shit about anything lmao

>>16750373
It's a symptom of all whiny western expats in Tokyo anon, it's not unique to this kid at all.
And yes the anon is telling the truth. The only thing more cancerous than an anituber and and anituber in Japan is that grouping called Japaptubers, who mainly consist of english speaking expats in downtown tokyo who do nothing but whinge about how the country they're in isn't exactly like their own at any given opportunity.

>>16750373
NTA but I doubt he's NOT serious. He might be the current example on display but that episode has been rerun by every expat to set foot in japan for decades.

>>16750373
Relieve stress, most probably, but not banter. I think he's been more publicly negative about Japan than Joey, Garnt and Chris combined despite having lived there for the least amount of time.

>>16685273
*rapes you*

>>16686765
>like
she is trying to destroy hololive
>dislike
there is nothing to dislike. Seriously

>>16717357
>Isn't it just proper social etiquette to acknowledge when you've been in the wrong,
They didn't do anything wrong, they played the game properly. Gura got upset because she lost and the others had to try and massage her bruised ego. That's unprofessional.