/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16582707
now you realize these are the same people posting in /#/

>>16582707
The IDs could effectively be ENs if they’d stop speaking dog altogether

>>16582707
I'm surprised you know what they fucking say. keep it up and soon you can marry petite jungle bushy girl in the forest. We need more white people in here

>>16582896
Reine and Ollie probably. The other are worse ESL than Kiara who I'm pretty sure is actually an ETL

>>16582707
With Risu you just have to enjoy. The song was amazing and OMG her voice was amazing. Just enjoy. Numberfagging Risu of all people is just silly.

>>16582707
>it should be Indonesian fans' responsibility to shill them
As if I'm listening to SEAnig recommendations.

>>16582707
Go back to your Facebook groups.

I occasionally check out IDs but generally the second I hear Indo I turn off the stream. So I basically only watch EN or JP collabs that include them.

>>16582707
>risu
kek, fuck off indog. Stop blaming other indogs for your shit taste.

>>16582707
>hy are Indonesian fans this delusional and entitled?
Because they've forgotten they're not Japanese-tier asians.

>seanigger shitting on seaniggers
kek

>>16582707
Homofags said the same just because they're in the same company.

Good. ID streams should stay small. Much more relaxed athmosphere than the zoomshit EN streams

>>16582707
Indonesia will become super power soon anon, they just banned chinks from exploiting their nickel source.

>>16582911
OP is filipino, them and Indonesians share similarities in languages as well as national rivalries.

>>16582707
Friendly reminder that the first generation of ID girls had 20-50k subs until the EN audience adopted them a couple months after HoloEN's debut.

>>16582707
>try to debuff herself 24/7
>face the consequences
>surpise pikachu meme.png

>go apeshit with male collabs
>numbers are garbage like everyone that spams male collabs
>fucking en's did this

>>16584818
Anon...

>>16582707
Here's the thing anon, her average viewer on any cover she does other than KING is suck

>>16584818
Not Moona, she got adopted by Pekora

>>16582707
Why bother making a thread? No one but mudmonkey Indogs can understand their Jaba the hut language anyway and thus only they care

>>16584818
Anon i know their growth were slow but this statement couldn't have been more wrong.

>>16584463
>zoomershit
>Ollie exists
What did it mean by this?

>>16586036
ollie is honorary outcast

>>16582707
Classic indog hating indog
This is the reason why Holo id growth so slow

>>16583235
This exactly. Nobody wants to listen to Indonesian if they're not Indonesian themselves. Either accept your smaller audience or use only English.

>>16582896
>>16583235
>>16585950
>>16586193
>>16586218
Indonesian language is the biggest filter.
It's really painful to listen to, like the sound of a cat scratching a blackboard.

>>16586370
Nah you are just filthy EOP with unironic boner for Japanese languange.

>>16582707
dumb phoneposter

>>16586469
Better that than a subhuman language spoken by monkeys.

>>16586609
That's (You)

>>16586370
Listening to Moona and Reine has conditioned me to find it erotic

>>16582707
Direct translation if anyone needed
> its such a shame that this good song is listened by only a few people even though
some of the other holo's song arent that good and their skill are mediocre and still their views are much more than this song.
>mumei's song that just realised 5 hours ago is already at 200k viewers, in my opinion this song should be able to surpass it, this risu's song actually deserve millions of viewers and even should surpass mumei's

>>16582707
Third world problem. None of our business.

The SEAnigger is right. M*mei's new song is fucking garbage yet will get 1m instantly because owlcucks eat up anything she shits out

So we are making threads about random Indog comments now?

>>16586469
>>16586724
>curry and shit scented hands typed these

>>16586724
Typical seadog response.

>>16586866
I fucking hate EN but I'm now gonna go listen to Mumeis new song just to make Seaniggers seeth

>>16584807
>similarities in languages
barely, but not enough to form coherent sentences

>national rivalries
take your meds

you wouldn't know OP's nationality unless you were OP. this is a terrible thread and you should drink some bleach

>>16586370
I like when Moona speaks it, maybe it's because she's just soft-spoken in general so it's not as grating to the ears.

>>16582707
When I first got into chuubas and noticed some ID ones, I expected them to be pretty popular because the whole SEA region is pretty weeby and the market is HUGE. But no, they would rather ignore their own chuubas and spam EN and JP chats with "HI IM FROM INDONESIAN" (exact quote im not kidding) and "Can you plz say hala pala bang hai ooga booga?". Fucking apes.

ID fans usually don't compare holos, it's just random indog comments comparing views of Risu original song are less than Mumei even though Risu song is better

>>16584818
it was because pekomoona actually

>>16587397
There were 3 factors actually -- Pekomoon, Risu's NNN, and the ID2 debuts.

Risu thinks she can pull an Ayame and become an utaite and never stream, but she killed her momentum and pretty much showed she stopped putting her best foot forward when Moona took off
In a year's time this girl is destined to be passed by her own genmate Iofi because Iofi actually gives a fuck about chuubaing
It says a lot when people say "oh right, I forgot she exists" when talking about you

>>16587283
Honestly they are not wrong to be surprised. Risu is a better singer that vast majority of all people in Hololive and yet lives in the Hologhetto

>>16582707
What did you expect

>>16587519
>Iofi actually gives a fuck about chuubaing

They are both crap songs. Mumei fans are just delusion if they think "A New Start" is any good as any other broken english/ Japanese song.

>>16587592
uploading a month's worth of 5 second clips doesn't compensate for streaming 2-3 times a week or sometimes even less

>>16582707
who cares about your nobody comment

>>16587102
Typical Mutt's response

>>16587592
She is, she even tries to interact with her viewer on Twitter daily

>dramafag purposely mistranslate Indog comments to make a bait thread on a mongolian basket weaving forum
>everyone took it
how low can >we go?

>Mumei retweets Risu's song
>Risu not liking or retweeting Mumei's song
>320k(12 hours) vs 90k(2 fucking days)
get fucked SEAniggers

>>16586370
I tried to watch them once and all I could hear was prratatapapratatpppratata.

>>16582707
>demand HoloID speak Indog more frequently
>wonder why foreigners watch them less frequently
hmmm

>>16582707
>>16586370
reminder that shitposters on indog fb bitched to cover over and over about how holo id doesn't speak id (because it doesn't pay because id is turd world duh) so holo id management was forced to bend the knee and the id girls HAD to start speaking more id than they otherwise would by choice.
THEN these cunts come and complain like in the OP.
you basically can't win
can just ignore turd world poorfags and just let the girls do what they want and that's chase the wider world market that is EN and let anya chase jp.
poorfags in shitty countries can be ignored forever

>>16588427
Holy shit i forgot Anya existed until you mentioned her.

>>16582707
HoloID needs to push for more EN and JP collabs. Look at Moona. Pekora got her off the ground and she's closing in on 1 million subs now. Iofi and Risu are lagging behind because they have been avoiding the other branch for the first year. Iofi collabing with Holostars does nothing for her numbers. I figure they don't care about the numbers because they make enough to live well in Indonesia already. OTOH, Ollie is a tryhard and probably wants to get out of Indonesia as soon as she finishes school.

>>16586866
This was typed by a Mumei fan larping as an anti to promote her through reverse psychology.

>>16586790
Moona isn't a native ID speaker and Reine basically lost the Indo accent so her Indonesian sounds like an American that perfected Bahasa Indo.

>>16586790
I like Risu's indo, it sounds like a squirrel language

>>16588427
just watch local chuubas then. there are lots of vtubers here other than from hololive

>>16582707
Because no one knows you exist. You stream at shit times for the rest of the world. The only time you get clipped is when your chuubas get fed up with you and yell at you for being retards.

>>16584807
Maybe bahasa melayu and bahasa jawa, but tagalog(and other languages) have deviated too much to even make sense. As for the rivalries, someday you heathens purified in the name of Christ.

>>16588884
>Moona isn't a native ID speaker
yes she is.
>and Reine basically lost the Indo accent so her Indonesian sounds like an American that perfected Bahasa Indo
no it's not.
seriously, where did you get this from? I don't get it. Moona's is a 100% native indonesian, if you actually watch area15 or her special stream during the ramadhan where she almost always speak Indonesian, you'd know she's a fucking native speaker. And reine didn't lose her indonesian accent, she lives in Indonesia for fucks sake, you're just ashamed you like how the language sound but doesn't want to admit it

>>16582707
reminder that there are around 100 million japs but 300 million ids. they should do the legwork and promote within their own country. i love theIDs, but im a flip.

>>16589363
>picrel
Langfocus vtuber debut when?

>>16588427
And dont forget that reiners early fans are the one who started and brute shares the fucking speak id rules

>>16588770
>Look at Moona. Pekora got her off the ground and she's closing in on 1 million subs now.
Moona's a bad example here. Moona rarely reaches out for collabs and is very much a sololiver just like her genmates, PekoMoon was just them getting extremely lucky. If you look at Moona now she barely collabs outside of her branch, her most recent JP collab being a cover song which I wouldn't count.

>>16589623
Yes, the good example is ollie in this case

>>16586799
Thanks anon

>>16582837
Nobody in numbers has brought up holoID in like, ever, except to dunk on nijien whenever the Selennigger tries to sell nijien as competing with HoloEN

>>16589663
Exactly, she grinds those collabs like crazy which got her to where she is now.

>>16589455
https://twitter.com/Woyde_ch/status/1477962636637659136
Been watching this man for months.

The management recommending they make their own minecraft hub did more damage to them as a branch than any yabe could
Just a clean shotgun blast to the foot and dooming them to only be remembered in cases like EN collabs

>>16582837
Nah, that kind of people cannot speak English

>>16582707
Surely more Holostars collabs will help! Find fucking Nijiguys to collab with instead of the Stars if you want to play with a male gawddamn

>>16589814
they wont even let Ollie collab with Selen probably because it could let the door open for NijiEN to be with HoloEN
All their managers are cuckolds who hate growth

>>16589753
This, most of the reason MC has been such a buff game is the Holoserver, creating ongoing storys and reaction content as well as impromptu collabs. Being able to play on the main server was the biggest boon for ID and locking them in a private server is just kills MC for them.

>>16582707
just close down ID branch and let them choose.
Join JP or EN.
that will shut those Indonesians ppl up

Isn't that so hard to do?

>>16589492
Remember that Reine really fucked up her growth big time with the insistance on ID. She'd be at Ollie or Moona's level by now but she only realized her mistake too late.

>>16589753
Was that on management? I was under the impression that it was something Ollie pushed for.

>>16589851
There's a rrat that has as much creedence as any that Niji want as much poasible distance from Holo that they can get away with due to the chink connection (billibilli part ownership).

I only watch NijiID for my SEAchuuba Fix and occasionally Qu-chan. No real reason to branch out to HoloID

>>16587542
Holos that are unironically better than Risu
>Okayu
>Mio
>Watame
>Suisei
>Sora
>Azaki
>Iryis
>Fubuki
>Marine
>Flare
>Marine
>Korone
>Rushia
>Polka
>Lui
>Chloe
>Moona
>Pekora

>>16582707
maybe if she finally did a proper karaoke stream it would draw in more people who would then see her song

>>16592313
>Pekora
>Korone
Is your ear deaf?

What are you all doing bashing on Indonesian? You just don't know the state of the ID market. Holo ID isn't a good representative of the ID market.

Just this afternoon there was a stream of Reine with ~1k viewers and a talkshow stream of MAHA5 with indie vtubers Mythia, they peaked at 5k ccv, even more than some HoloEN and HoloJP.

Holo ID is stuck and reclining because they're pandering too much to EN viewers, and when the EN market has begun to be saturated like now, they paid the price.

It's just a plain bad management, they're shortsighted and want a quick buck. They just followed what Nijisanji did but have no idea the real intention, and Nijisanji is smarter, they're focusing on their local market and now their viewers and fanbase are growing compared to their early years in 2020. Nijisanji is investing like a proper Japanese companies but Hololive is doing it like an American company.

ID market is inclining, it's just not going towards the HoloID's fanbase.

>>16593303
>shortsighted and want a quick buck
and you bring up Mythia who inclined due to fucking TikTok
>Nijisanji is investing like a proper Japanese companies
is that why all of NijiID except Hana are still stuck below 100k
Your post is a nonsensical mess. All of NijiID except Hana is still stuck below 100k, meanwhile you bring up Mythia, who inclined due to TikTok pandering of all things.

>>16593303
>shortsighted and want a quick buck
and you bring up Mythia who inclined due to fucking TikTok
>Nijisanji is investing like a proper Japanese companies
is that why all of NijiID except Hana are still stuck below 100k

maybe if the tree rrat fucking sung karaokes, people would be aware of her voice

>>16593303
THIS!
The main reason HoloID's popularity has declined this year is because indie vtuber Mythia Batford is mogging their local audience

Mythia does what Holo considers YAB to attract new audiences, she interacts and teases many famous Indonesian male gaming YouTubers and these YouTubers promote Mythia to their fanbase as Waifu, most of which are kids, normies and degenerated weebs.

She is the indo version of IronMouse

>>16584807 <<= the true seanig.

>>16589623
I'm pretty sure before she is busy with school, Moona is the one who collabs with vtuber outside Cover the most.
Like that chink vtuber, Pinoy vtuber, Russian vtuber, her mama other vutber, etc...

>fourth most populated country in the world
>can't get it together

It was better when Russian women had 6 kids and projections had russia hitting a billion people by 2000. Hitler fucked it all up.

>>16595480
>The main reason HoloID's popularity has declined this year is because indie vtuber Mythia Batford is mogging their local audience

>Mythia does what Holo considers YAB to attract new audiences, she interacts and teases many famous Indonesian male gaming YouTubers and these YouTubers promote Mythia to their fanbase as Waifu, most of which are kids, normies and degenerated weebs.

>She is the indo version of IronMouse

>>16595480
Now Mythia stream CCV can reach 5k on average but Moona and Ollie who are most famous in holoID are having a hard time getting 3k

>>16588027
She even pinned post risu's song to her tweeter account, i know because I stalked mumei a lot.

>>16595893
>5k on average
>kids, normies and degenerated weebs
ew no thanks

>>16595923
I'm convinced that newnigger simply couldn't fathom a shitposting treerrat for having a voice the complete opposite of what they would hear on stream that they skipped watching the song. As for oldnigger, they probably hold some grudges towards risu for denying karaoke for far too long, they decided to not give it any views.

jesus fucking christ i hate seaniggers and their motorcycle language so fucking much

>>16589415
>Moona isn't a native ID speaker
NTA, but technically Bahaha Indonesia is Moona second language, english is her third. Nobody know what her first.

>>16584463
Nigga ID has the zoomer yubiyubiqueen Ollie

>>16593303
> ID market is inclining, it's just not going towards the HoloID's fanbase.
You have to pander to them hard if you want that market. NIJIID are still below Anya even thought they were there before Hololive, Maha5 isn't beating HoloID.

>>16596349
Seriously. This song showed me that Risu really is the best singer in Hololive.

Ollie's rant about Indonesian fans

https://files.catbox.moe/zr8f19.mp4

>>16599365
>Have you been in elementary school?
Damn, she really BTFO those IOPs.

>>16582707
Seaniggers make up most of the numberfags

>>16582896
It kills the purpose of the whole "ID thing"

Bump

>>16588027
Good moomer
Bad indog

If the branch doesn't have JP or EN at the end of its description, it isn't worth joining.

>>16585950
OP here
Good question
I don't even know what was I thinking when posting this
I want all of HoloID members to not feel bad about their numbers. They are still the top dog of ID chuubas.
I don't want them to listen to retarded "fans" who have too much expectation. There is no realism to their numberfagging with them overestimating the current ID market size.
Rather than celebrating risu's own growth and milestones, they choose to be negative about it, lashing out at risu's kouhai (mumei) for no apparent reasons other than being jealous of her success. They are setting up higher expectations that may not be achievable at the moment.
I might be projecting.
But these Indonesian fans reminded me of my mom, she always comparing me with a neighbor kid who went to an overseas university.
She told me that I am the best, that I was even better than them, that I could be like them. But she's not interested in whatever I'm doing, or me as a person.
Which is worse than a typical tiger mom. It's a tiger mom in denial.
Don't you think these "fans" only want to use Risu for their own ego and pride? Something like "Look! 'we' moggs ENs and JPs numbers"
It feels so wrong
I just find it toxic and unbearable.
Risu is an ID chuuba and she's having ID chuubas numbers. I see nothing wrong with that. If these make her "fans" unhappy, maybe they should not choose risu to be their oshi.
End of rant
>81
Fucking kek

>>16607397
They want an indonesian-focus in streams yet cannot comprehend that an indonesian-focus stream means only indonesian viewers, and a few diehard fans, will actually watch. Note, these are greynames, they're not even Prisuners and thus missed the step2 on of supporting Risu. I'd pay them no mind at all. I don't think Anya feels bad in her place. She's having fun and gets paid for it.

>>16587246
This kind of puts things into perspective with that whole rant ollie did about indogs in that one clip

>>16582707
They probably don't watch of the JP or EN songs. I would bet they don't even watch the other songs from ID members. If someone wants me to watch their content they'd have to be returning the favor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VGkeUaX-zk

>sample size: 1 person

>>16582707
The western world doesn't like Muslims.

>>16591922
If it was something Ollie pushed for then add it to the list of shit showing she doesn't know what the fuck she's doing.

>>16608297
It wasnt. Ollie doesnt even play minecraft. Its obviously for preparation on gen3 but they fucked up with the timing for it. Should've been at most a month before gen3 debuts

>>16589753
Every time I see they are playing Minecraft and am about to watch, I realize it's on the ID server and don't click.

>>16608137
Cope

>>16608479
You missed many Kino moments, too bad for you

Gen 1
>Moona
Speaks dogshit english, bad voice anyways. Kind of a cunt, if I'm honest.
>Iofi
Kind of based for calling out art thieves on twitter, own art is a wip. I never see her on youtube, clips or otherwise
>Risu
Ayunda is the sleeper wife material of the Holo English sphere. Great laugh and energy. Where the hell is she, Susan?

Gen 2
>Ollie
Loud, kind of obnoxious, but she loves VTubing and loves doing her job and it shows. Also where the fuck is the source of her fingering herself until I see proof this is all hearsay you dipshits.
>Reine
Chill, great, can hold up in any market.
>Anya
kind of dull, but sharp as hell against chat. must be some sort of masochist to enjoy her.

how'd i do

Just rename HololiveID to HololiveEN East
Simple as

>>16614399
>zomkek
You poor thing.

>>16614503
Why not HoloSEA?

>>16583235
Are Ollie and Moona speaking different dialects or something. Ollie's Indonesian is tolerable to me(even sexy when she's pissed) but Moona sounds like she's got an extra chromosome.

>>16620563
Ollie speaks like a bitch, Moona speaks like an autist

>>16614399
You're nice to my oshi but mean to my other favorite. 5/10

>>16582707
The same species as homobeggars. What'd you expect. They'll blame anybody but themselves

>>16582896
Did you really unironically want another Niji India ?

>>16614503
this will accomplish nothing
just as what happened with niji "en" (india) the tag of en will do nothing to help them. they will get insta-filtered by their horrific accents and that will be that
The only EN with a non-anglophone accent is Kiara and she passes on the fact shes European, so her accent isnt too aggressively strange
The only people outside of the Anglosphere and Europe who can hope to not filter people are jap english speakers but they would just get dumped into JP anyways because theyre too valuable to waste on EN

>>16608227
These girls are as muslim as the average western girl is christian

>>16582707
>Took a screenshot of comment from a rando
>complain about it

>>16620563
Moona is ISL.

>>16614399
Sounds like people gonna start saying anya hate her fan if she was EN

>>16614399

the one time I clicked an anya stream she was yelling at her like 300 viewers and I just got out of there. Like I need some pathetic failure that can barely speak english trying to shit talk me LMAO

can confirm moona has broken as fuck english and seems like a bitch.

>>16628119
>>16614399

are you by any chance the retards that gets called micropenis last year by her ?? kek BAHAHAHA

>>16629270
I'm not exaggerating I joined her channel one time and left in about 30 seconds because she was mid meltdown and it was just a pathetic sight

>>16607397
man you shouldn't ever goes to /#/ then, it'll fuck you up

>>16629944
numberfags in /#/ knows that ID is a debuff and never expected them to be as big as JP and EN.
they are less schizo than OP's example

>>16607397
>I want all of HoloID members to not feel bad about their numbers
Tell that to Ollie, she's the only Numberfag known in ID branch, she even went nuts when Susan fucked up the live viewers count and she trying to talk about it with Moona, and moona blatantly answer she doesn't care about numbers she only care about the chat speed.

>>16607397
Yuor mom is just being a tiger. I believe in you OP

>>16614399
i can see whos your oshi by looking at the one who had the most words retard, why are your kind always like this?

>>16630473
>>I want all of HoloID members to not feel bad about their numbers
>Tell that to Ollie, she's the only Numberfag known in ID branch, she even went nuts when Susan fucked up the live viewers count and she trying to talk about it with Moona, and moona blatantly answer she doesn't care about numbers she only care about the chat speed.

>>16632437
Wut? It's true tho

>>16632708
It's the usual wojak poster, just ignore him

>>16586469
It's not pleasing to listen to. It's like expecting German to not sound angry.

>>16632396
>why are your kind always like this?
cuckold's curse

>>16638904
German language sounds cool thou

>>16587092
There's a pajeet, itt now?? The topic her is InDogs, not India

>>16607397
>I want all of HoloID members to not feel bad about their numbers.
you are taking a screenshot of some randos anon, they aren't even getting a lot of likes.

>>16589753
is it even linked? if not why isn't it linked like the EN server is?

>>16643240
Not yet, presumably because it's not finished yet.
However I don't think a future linkage has even been confirmed. If it doesn't happen then you know that whoever manages ID is fucking retarded.

>>16646103
>whoever manages ID is fucking retarded.
Yup the lack of communication between branch managers is astounding

>>16642243
I'm a menhera purishu andestan

>>16582707
TL:
It's such a shame a song this good is listened by so little in contrast to other holos' songs which are not that good and their singing skills are mediocre but gets so much more viewers than this

Mumei's song that was released just 5 hours ago, already got 200 thousand viewers, this should've be over that I think, Risu's song like this actually deserves millions of views even should be more than Mumei's

TLN: Grammatical and punctuation mistakes included. Try not to be too autistic about it

Also, they're not blaming anyone. They were being dicks and calling other holos' songs shit, but other than that they're only whining about how an ID's song got less views than the others

>>16595623
go back to your holiday homework

>>16641925
Its the same thing the countries land mass is essentially made up of pajeet skin cells its part of the reason why its the world's third filthiest fucking country out side of China and Somalia

>>16584628
chinks don't get that privilege even though they're the 2nd biggest economy in the word you indog. go consult your economics teacher before posting here

>>16650048
Fuck off poojet
>>16650065
Fuck off zhang

Take your /pol/ shit from here

>>16614399
Zomniggers

>>16650134
>zhang
what if I say I'm actually a chindo?

>>16598603
it's peuyeumese

>>16586799
how nice of you Brother. Keep it up and keep learning!

>>16646103
It's kinda teased though? Moona said they'll come through the harbor. Just like those pale guys looking for spices in the olden days..

>>16627518
based

>>16582707
Can you translate? I don't speak monkey.

>>16614399
9/10 you're basically me wtf
t.indog

>>16651563
I second this, I didn't know Tagalog either.

>>16651563
Read the thread, monkey.

>>16651563
>>16651694 fuck (you)
I just did this. check it out >>16649807

>>16651563
sorry, i cannot translate it into pignoy

>>16586790
Same

>>16651480
on what?

This thread is shit

Sea Monkeys: Civil War

>>16655534
on tolmu

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1483457376795697161?t=CIeSQcMGdvcJvWMvTlr28w&s=19

>>16632396
lrn2read ESL retard