/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I have a feeling this will end like the gura christmas faggotry.

>>16577498
Many people love Mori. But nobody loves you at all. How does that feel?

>>16577581
But is he wrong?

>>16577581
Anyone who takes a stand against evil will be hated, that's why so few do it.

>>16577544
Already forgot it.

Can i have a clip of Calli not knowing Kiara didnt record a KING cover and calli not listening to her song? That sounds hilarious I love Kiara being hurt even though im not a Kiara anti before she makes such a good target for schadenfreude

calli doens't like kiara and ame and knows they only have an audience because they're in hololive

wow how terrible.

your post is too fucking long OP

>>16577498
Wow all those things you typed and she's still the second most popular English holo. Based Reaper!

>>16577581
So you don‘t disagree?

>>16578252
>knows they only have an audience because they're in hololive
Oh, the irony.

>>16577498
>list of lies
>basically 4 things
Wow what a bich, vt sisters

>>16578296
look at the other hololivers flopped music releases calli's shit sells because people actually like it.

also was successful musically before hololive while kiara is literally only there because she's JP fluent

>>16578386
Nobody in Hololive has ever made good music, nor is that some metric to be proud of. That's not really Hololive's thing.

>It's okay if she lies! That's how you know she loves us!
Shartbraps are this pathetic

>>16577498
I think I saw a clip of her singing Godzilla. Others are true. Fuck you, Miss 5%.

>>16578460
H...huh?

>>16578206
https://streamable.com/eknk5y

>>16578460
This anon speaks the truth I only stream sparks ironically

>It’s ok to lie if you are popular
Deadcucks are made for politics

>>16578665
Based Calli

>>16578665
Thanks anon. Someone should really make a library of these streamable links but i guess the archive is fine

>>16578715
Lying is fun!

>>16578665
kek

Kiara was lying first though

>>16578763
I hate Kiara like any normal person would, but how autistic are you?

>>16578665
I dislike Kiara but it hurts every time I watch this. No one deserves this.

>>16578715
who are you quoting ?

>>16578892
She was lying about a song she covered, and expected calli to remember it, of course Calli went along with it. What did Kiara expect, especially when theyre supposed to be getting along? "Nah i dont listen to your stuff, Kiara" whats the point in trying to catch her in a lie? Its like the people who get their hot friend to flirt with their girlfriend and expect them not to flirt back, youre playing with fire if you think they wouldnt

>>16578927
I wach dat shit 50 times

>>16577498
Mori call ame
And there's no proof mori is lying about connor either

>>16578927
It honestly perfectly encapsulates what a shitty human being Mori is. Just completely self-absorbed. Anything that doesn't fit into her little life schedule gets ignored because of her massive tunnel-vision. It's exactly the same reason why she forgot about Ame's birthday TWICE.

>>16578984
Cuckpostersama...

>>16578665
I will give Kiara my full love and support because she got our backs

>>16579007
Kiara literally contradicted her.

>>16577581
I love the OP, so that’s another lie

>>16578965
Newfag, please.

Kiara did a King announcement that turned out to be a rick roll. It was a joke. She maybe thought that Calli knew about the joke.

>>16579020
Honestly a sign of her being a massive alcoholic and self absorbed. She'd benefit from going sober for a while and meditation and practicinf mindfulness. Maybe keeping a journal as well. Because im sure her intentions arent bad... shes not intentionally trying to look like a shitty person publically but she needs to be more aware of other people.

>>16579007
how come she never said he apologized until it was brought up to her attention? she clearly made it up on the spot

>>16579077
Oh so thats why Kiara lied in the first place?with this context i am now a mori anti.

>>16579057
Kiara was talking about who contacted her about being in Japan though. Completely different context.

>>16579071
Ironic

>>16579112
The fuck nigga can you not be so smoothbrained?

Deadbeats give this stupid drunk their money?

>>16579217
Have you seen her tits?

>>16579296
I wish

>>16577498
>I'm gonna sing Godzilla at 1m subs (never happened)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exaTlJW1jZk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT-2uH21VII

When making lists of points, don't get too greedy and include stuff that can be easily disproved by a quick search.

>>16579217
And in turn she gives it all away to an Asian manlet

>>16579217
Yes most superchatted in all of HoloEN too. That why I call them enabler.
>No Mori you're not an alcoholic, even though you can't function in your everyday life without it.
>>16577498
>I'll totally call in to your birthday stream Ame, this time I won't forget, I'll redeem myself from last year!
She did call in, it was just later because she was hungover and was still asleep, like an alcoholic would be.

She clearly has an addictive personality and has chosen the substance abuse path. It's kind of sad, I like Calli but to see her go on this self destructive path is just to painful to watch, I see it all too many times and the majority of them don't end too well, I see the same with Gura so it's not good for then to egg each other on.

What are the lyrics again? "Cuckbeats coping now", or something?

>>16579381
Guras been drinking too? I thought shes been sick

>>16579091
>She'd benefit from going sober for a while and meditation and practicinf mindfulness. Maybe keeping a journal as well

What fucking land of faggotry are you coming from? Holy shit...

Remember that time Mori actually said her roommate's name on stream? That was funny

>>16579477
I thought she lived alone.

>>16578665
Wtf I hate Mori now?

>>16578665
I don't watch Kiara that much but damn that hurt.

>>16579448
Oh right this is /vt/ we dont practice any mental wellbeing, pass the crack pipe

>>16579514
Newfagchama...

>>16577581
Man I hope she sees this.

>>16577498
Who are you quoting?

>>16579535
NTA but you can take a break from drinking without going full faggot with mindfulness and shit.

>>16579593
Sorry ive been listening to my therapist too much. Anyways shes a woman shed probably benefit from that

>>16579577
Me, source is also me.
You must believe me and hate on Mori cuz I said you must.

How do you guys know he didn't personally dogeza before every HololiveEN?

>>16579414
I don't know about current Gura situation but the both are very similar with having addicted personalities.
Gura being defensive about being called a drunk on the first new years stream, she tried to pass it off as her joking that she'd ban people but I didn't buy it.
I'd say she does it more privately and not on stream, unlike Mori.
They both hit the energy drinks hard and Gura still dose so that definitely not good for her health.
But hey I'm not their medical practitioner. Just guessing off rrat's and what I've seen on stream

>>16578965
This isn't Reddit or /jp/, faggot. Normal meme arrow rules apply here, same as the rest of the site.

>>16578965
Hes quoting the general deadbeat mindset.

>>16579375
*tips tophat*

>>16579692
What would he have to apologise for if he was taken out of context?

>>16579775
It wasn't taken out of context.

>>16579809
But Mori said it was

This is why I'm glad her sister lied to her about booty stank

>>16579837
So did Connor, there's a recent clip of him responding to the clip and the first things he says is that it's taken out of context.

>defending an ecelebrity because he said it was taken out of context without also giving context.
Shiggy diggy my niggy

>>16579837
>>16579868
The classic "context bro" excuse

>>16579692
Kiara said she has had no contact with anyone from TT almost right after Calli lied about it.

SEASON 2 WAS GOING SO WELL
IF ONLY THAT WELSH FUCK DIDNT EXIST
HE SHOULDVE NEVER BEEN BORN

>>16579961
The context was he was being a cunt and shit talking Hololive. If you watch the video even Mousie was pretty disturbed by it.

>>16577498
>>Yes Kiara I listened to your King cover it was great... Wait what do you mean it doesn't exist??
Wasn't it all ironically? I mean just listen how they talk, it's just a joke

>>16579977
Wow, fucking hell Mori...

>>16579809
But I, and fellow VT sister believed they are lying, so they MUST be lying.

>>16579977
Kiara shouldnt be going behind my fucking back and making shit up to make her look bad

>>16577498
Wait she didnt call in ame's birthday? Wtf!?

>>16577498
are we on this timeloop again?

>>16580076
I dont really like Kiara but she is by far the most open, truthful, and honest EN member.
I believe someone who asks their fans openly if they are ok with male collabs than one who white knights for e-celebs and shit talks her own members.

>>16578665
>not cool carriope

>>16580110
>happened yesterday
>timeloop
The only timeloop is how often you stupid niggers use that phrase

Oh how about the time Mori said that hololive was not going to be accepting gift or letters for the Talent, because of stalking and tracking tag reasons, but then Kiara had to say Mori was wrong and they were still accepting Fan Letters.
I think it's more just Mori being a dumb fucking cunt and not listening then a liar. But that's what happens when you drink to much, you fry your brain.

>>16579296
Fair point

>>16578665
Holy shit

>50 times
>You don't believe me, do you?

How can someone lie so shamelessly?

>>16577544
Completely different, she was being accused of lying when in fact her family did come over for xmas.
Calli here is supporting a ironicweeb anituber who constantly disrespects hololive and its fans over the people that actually support her and defending him for no reason.

>>16579077
Mori could've easily went "oh I haven't checked it out yet, I'll go check it out qfter the stream" and no one would blame her since the "king" tweet legitimately came out of nowhere, instead she decided to flat out lie and tell kiara that she did listen to it and say that it was great which baffles me since she had no reason to lie except maybe to keep up appearances.

>>16580182
Can you imagine the smell though?

>>16579007
>Mori call ame
Near the end of her unarchived Karaoke, I could tell from Ame's voice that she was annoyed/disappointed.

>>16580076
>making shit up
You know kiara has a loose mouth and she is bad at keeping secrets which mostly are true

>>16580280
Why wouldn’t she be? She’s not a menhera like Kiara, she’s just trying to do her thing.

>>16579868
>Out of context
>Hey mousey, you know about people who lie in their job resume?
>Imagine if they did it to enter something like Hololive, where once you're in, regardless of your actual talent, you're set for life!
>Mouse (who is a hololive fan): "You really should change the example" in a disturbed voice

>>16580103
Sure. Post the official link of the source then. Ya know, the one with all the girls that call in to Ames birthday stream.

>>16580381
The funniest part is that some talents are still poor which goes to show how much an ironic weeb knows about Hololive.

>>16580381
Who does connor think lied? Do you think he thinks this information is canon cause Calli told him?

>>16577498
The ONLY reason why I’m not a Mori anti is because Mori was there for Kiara when she was in Japan. She was Kiara’s mental support when she needed it most. How can I hate someone like that?

>>16580176
I ain't gonna read all that
I just assume it's like an epic discord thing when people post these threads

>>16580594
I think you're getting Mori confused with Jenma.

>>16579448
It's good advice.

>>16580653
>is thread reader
>cant even read the threads he posts in

>>16580679
He actually did read it hes just pretending cause hes trying to be cool

>>16580176
>happened yesterday
VT sisterly gossip been happening on a weekly basis, how new?

>>16579837
what she said was she looked up the actual context because she's used to things being taken out of context and after seeing the full thing and knowing the full situation so she wasn't getting caught by drama baiters, she spoke to him about it and he apologized to her and all of EN. if she wasn't serious about it she never would have contacted him about it and it clearly upset her so i really don't know what else the antis want from her. they dealt with it like adults, with an actual in person apology and not some bullshit cultivated for twitter, everyone moved on

i don't know where people got the idea that he directly messaged all of them individually but it was pretty clear from her context that he was apologizing to all of EN, through her, because why the fuck would any of her genmates care about getting a personal apology from some shithead they have no contact with

>>16577498
Even if the apology was a lie, she did try to appease drama faggots, sadly Kiara didn't get the memo and backstabed her "friend" that helped her so much back in the begining once again.

>>16580656
I thought this too. Jenma’s done way more for kiara than mori.

>>16577581
I love OP just as much as Calli loves Connor

>>16577498
Mori said she loves me on stream. Was that a lie too?

>>16580653
The only discord here is in your head, from guzzling a copious amount of TT crew cum out of Mori's cooch

>>16580726
Jenma has done more for Hololive then Mori and Jchad has do or even thought of doing

>>16580760
A blatant one, at that.

>>16580717
stop being reasonable, you are disrupting the narrative we want.

>>16580711
So you're saying they lied? Fucking hell they must be Mori!

>>16580176
"muh timeloop" is the only defendse shartbraps have though. Because everyone knows that crimes just magically disappear after a week passes.

>>16580722
>kiara
>friend
that bridge has been burned by mori herself, they are coworkers that barely interact with each oher now

>>16580563
>Who does connor think lied? Do you think he thinks this information is canon cause Calli told him?
I legitimately don't understand what this means. Do you mean somebody lied to connor? Do you mean calli told him this and he repeated it?

It seems to me he has it in his head that chubbas are propped up by their corporation and that it doesn't matter how stupid they are they will make money compared to the "poor indie who struggles" probably comparing it to himself where he made it on his own before joining the trash taste people.

Mousey, who is in a corporation, and likes hololive, and KNOWs that >SmallIndieCompanyPlsAndastan fucks up more than they help, was clearly disturbed by this and changed topics.
But also, connor talking to mouse, WHO COLLABS WITH HOLOLIVE, just outright calls out a company she works with. How do you think that looks for mousey? It could jeopardize future projects with other companies if she hangs out with somebody who does shit like this.
He was just as disrespectful to mouse as to holo fans.

>>16580802
Didn't mouse defend him too?

>>16580717
>i don't know where people got the idea that he directly messaged all of them individually
The part where she said he "personally apologized to every Myth member"

>>16580794
ESLchama... please do perform spell check before posting.

Oh so this is why Mori is all head hort right now

>>16580381
To be fair, he isn't wrong in the first half. *If* you get into hololive without actually having any exceptional talents and without putting in the work, you still get an established fanbase and a minimum number of viewers per stream and a reasonable reach you would have to work years to establish as an indie. The issue is that he implies it is sustainable and the only way to refute this is to point to a holo who flopped after getting lazy, which is of course not proper manners when you have a working relationship with the company (or aim to, I'm unsure about the timeframe).

>>16580802
Sorry what i mean is i thought he was repeating an opinion mori had, while so wondering who is generally considered talentless from hololive that is propped up by being in a company? Most the worst performing holomems are the most talented so that opinion makes no sense to me.

>>16577498
i swear these threads are all made by a single schizo, ban him and all this manufactured drama will end.

>>16580794
It’s their favorite coping mechanism.

>>16580799
And that’s how it needs to be. Kiara’s yuribaiting obviously was not to her liking so she did the best thing.

I actually think Connor has that opinion because of what Mori tells him.

>>16580855
Why is it that the first thing to come to his mind on the subject "lying on job resume" and "being a talentless hack leeching off a brand" was Hololive?
Specially since he has been friends with Mori for a long time?

>>16580717
Calli lied about his apology to all of EN or Connor lied to Mori about his apology or Kiara lied about Conors apology.

>>16580902
Thats what i was trying to imply but i type like an esl

>>16580902
>Mori is secretly seething internally that Gura and Ame are as successful as her despite being lazier and doing significantly less work than all the shit she has to deal with on a constant basis.

>>16580944
Your answer >>16580902

>>16580946
he apologized to all of EN, through mori. I assume most of you haven't seen the stream because its pretty easy to infer what she means, even if her wording was clumsy

>>16580882
You know what else would stop this "drama"? If Mori would stop lying.

>>16580902
That would explain her attitude

>>16580844
No, we have already established ages ago that if someone has, tummy hort, head hort, dead dog hort etc it means they are getting, going to or are having a mad dicking.

>>16579381
Meds, now

>>16580944
Maybe he knows that Mori lied for her audition.

>>16580978
I’ll never understand the problem with their collaborations being popular. They’re both entertaining to watch play games and despite certain moments, they’re both more approachable.

>>16580999
Thats a pretty pathetic cope and you know it.

>>16580902
he's had that opinion since long before he met her so its doubtful lol

>>16580883
>My friend is doing a fun flirty thing with me and i played along with, so i did the right thing and ghosted her stopped collabing with her and go out of my way to give her antis more fuel
Tell me why mori isnt considered a schizo cunt?

>>16580978
She can't cope that they were comedians.

>>16581035
When do you think he met her?

>>16580381
Have a clip?

>>16581036
Because she’s a woman.

>>16580999
>He apologized to me, privately
>None of my fans know this at all
>Nobody has addressed this or is aware that he didn't mean it that way and is sorry

>HOW DARE PEOPLE BE UPSET AT CONNOR HE APOLOGIZED ALREADY DONT YOU GUYS KNOW REFUND YOUR SUPERCHAT
Mori is retarded

>>16579514
I'll spoonfeed you because you made me laugh newfagchama: Bruce Wayne and Batman are roommates

>>16581043
trash taste obviously, roommate reps all but confirm it

>>16581026
Mori don't give a shit, shwe only in it to further her music career.

>>16581071
She was friends with Sydsnap already.

>>16580999
>conor apologies, guys, i swear!!

>>16577955
>Anyone who takes a stand against evil will be hated, that's why so few do it.
Why are you niggas always so goddamn chuuni? I always see this kind of shit in doxcords and anti shitposts.

>>16581077
Based reply

>>16581062
she wasn't annoyed at people being upset with connor. she was annoyed at some schizo trying to police her life

she IS retarded, but not for these reasons

>>16581007
No I'm not the one who needs medication. Prescribed or self medicated, unlike others

>>16580978
not really, mori loves having gura as a friend a lot, compare her to that super fake kiara business and it's like night and day

>>16581062
That's the thing: if he really apologized, why didn't Mori say so before?

>>16581047
Not anymore, but it was pretty much that.
And when he noticed that Ironmouse, who usually takes his word as gospel, was very unconfortable and asked him to change the subject, he immediately realized he had fucked up and started backpedalling.

>>16581085
>admits to using doxcords
nice job doxbeat

>>16581082
why did they only follow each other and start commenting on each others posts after she did TT then?

>>16581138
>after
No

>>16581085
Go back to discord

>>16581109
what do you expect her to do? in the middle of playing a game just say hey everyone, real important thing that i know the vast majority of you dont give a fuck about, but some guy who is not part of hololive apologized to me over some shit he said

use the 1 wrinkle on your brain for 1 second

>>16581152
it was filmed weeks in advance, dipshit

>>16581099
The SC dude wasn't even rude or anything, I think a member stream is the right place to address something like this, her members know she is friends with Connor, and yet that highly controversial thing he said about Hololive had never been addressed.
But she felt so attacked and recoiled so hard upon seeing it, quickly favouring Connor over her loyal fanbase that supports her lifestyle.

>>16577498
I don't understand bros. She hates hololive yet she's the second most popular holo, the most SC'd EN, loved by her kouhai and senpai, and gets millions and millions of views on her music videos. How does she keep on getting away with it?

>>16580998
All vtubers lie about their private life, other than that she hasn't lied in a way that should matter to you, schizo virgin. Youre mad that she gets railed by connor while you listen to her stream.

>>16581182
So youre surrendering to thenfact that the only time mori talks to her genmates is on stream?

>>16580717
This. Unlike Vwhores, Calli is an actual adult that dealt with this kind of drama inducing shit with her aquintance behind the scene in a good manner.
Dramaniggers was seething cause she btfo'd them after they sent retarded SC to bait drama from her
>kek

>>16581209
She hates hololive
Yet shes popular
These things definitely are not exclusive to each other! She must be loving hololive and all her senpais cause shes successful, thats the only way

>>16581246
>Calli

>>16581223
I mean if he was actually railing her would it be an issue?

>>16581209
success breeds jealousy. I'll use the good ole kfp defence "if you see 3 or more anti threads on the catalogue, it means that she is winning:)"

>>16581121
>>16581153
>screencaps don't exist
And you guys are stupid too! It's so adorable. I can't wait for Q to flop and for Mori to graduate! Any day now!

>>16581246
The way she replied to the SC was the cause of the drama to begin with, had she been more civil and didn't lash out like it was a personal attack on her, none of this would have happened.

People are also taking Kiara out of context.

During the stream she had just said that somebody contacted her and asked if she was in Japan. Chat was guessing who it was and she said no, she was not in contact with trash taste people.

>>16581204
the sc dude was extremely rude and controlling and he opened with some bullshit specifically to trick her and its not something she ever would have read on stream if she'd known

favouring her actual irl friend over some deluded dumbass in her chat is the correct and sane thing to do. i don't even like connor, but someone who would throw someone they claim to be friends with under the bus to appease some potential paypig is a fucking scumbag, which mori isn't.

>>16581227
did you click reply on the wrong post? either way you're a fucking retard

>>16581283
Those kind of schizos deserve no mercy though.

>>16578665
Not Calli's finest moment. Something about this clip makes me really horny for Kiara though, idk what that's about

>>16580855
>picrel

>>16581283
she shouldve said that he needs to kill himself immediately

>>16581209
It’s easy money, plain and simple. That’s why she’s still with it. It’s an easy source of income. That’s why a lot of them do it.

>>16581288
>she said no, she was not in contact with trash taste people.
The difference between "No its not them" and "I don't talk to them at all" is a big deal.

If Kiara never talks to them than connor didn't apologize to her personally
Therefore he didn't apologize to hololive in the way mori said

Now, mori probably MEANT that he apologized to her only, and therefore holoen with her as the representative. But ya boi sucks at English despite being a rapper.
But EVEN THEN, see >>16581062
none of her fans know this and she has no right to be upset at somebody pointing out connors yab

>>16581264
See that's what I don't get. She's literally ruining hololive yet no one seems to care! This world in unjust. No one cares about justice anymore...

>>16581223
>he thinks I would ever waste my time to watch Mori

A lot of deadbrap cope itt

>>16581246
>Calli is an actual adult
Anon, her reaction was the opposite of an adult replying to her fanbase with a legitimate concern

>>16581396
t cuckbrap

>>16581373
She can’t possibly make EN any more of a shitshow than it already is now lmao.

>>16581432
ayy lmao

>>16578665
And people around here keep hating on Kiara.
The chicken is loud, annoying, hyperactive, a numberfag and speaks without thinking, but she loves her job and her genmates and she is always aware of what they are doing.

>>16577498
I guess you can say that Mori has.... trash taste in friends.

>>16581432
Oh, you haven't seen anything yet.

>>16581373
because it wasn't ruined for anybody else but you and all your samefag post. You dumb SEAnigger fuck.

>>16581457
Ohhhhhhh based

>>16581465
Hololive EN is now permanently taking submissions from male members

>>16581432
She's already doing it, lying and shit talking your friends to ecelebs is just the first step.

>>16581509
Trust me, it can always get worse.

>>16581453
She’s also bad, but a different kind of bad.

>>16581432
It's just a matter of time considering their attitude

>>16581526
It cant be worse than when holostars gets an en branch, im sorry. That will be the i day i stop following hololive and vtubing as a whole and escape this godforsaken board

One thing Connor got right though is that they are absolutely laughing at schizos like the SC guy who think they can control what their idol does.

And it's not just Mori.

I wonder how mori views her membership streams.
At its most basic level, membership streams are where people who are proven to invest in their oshi come to gather and celebrate the oshi and her success.
Therefore, these people are the most invested in the chubba
Therefore, these people's opinions matter more than mere greynames

I see some people saying that the guy who SC membered the same day. Mori probably doesn't know this unless she's menhera and keeps track of her chat so it doesn't affect the following:

Wouldn't the place where everybody who wants you to succeed (a members stream) be the best place to address issues and criticism from your fans? And wouldn't those issues be addressed honestly and with at least basic politeness since they (in theory) come in better faith than greyname SC or comments?

>>16579112
Why the fuck would she just randomly bring up that topic?

>>16581561
>It cant be worse than [x]
Things can always get worse, anon. There's no limit to bullshit.

>>16581550
Moris kind of bad is way worse than Kiaras bad and if you disagree youre coping

>>16581432
Mark my words. HoloEN will bring about the end of hololive. I fucking knew this would happen and everyone called me a schizo. Fucking retards.

>>16581509
Reminder people asked about the gender availability of the previous audition for council and they were told "anybody can apply" because they didn't want to upset the tranny mob
Its entirely possible they're still doing this and throwing all the men in the trash.

>>16581574
Mori hates her fans and Hololive, anon.

Veibae got cancelled so hard that she had to drop out of the collab with Kiara, and Connor gets a pass and Mori even still does a second TT Podcast?
Something is odd here...

>>16581594
I can ignore Mori, Kiara's voice makes it impossible to ignore her during collabs.

>>16581457
INA WTF???

>>16581620
They're backed by Kadokawa

>>16581574
>thinking the 5 dollars a month = good faith
3rdworldChama...

>>16581557
They’re both terrible in their own way, though to Kiara’s defense it can be easily written off as her being a bimbo.

>>16581582
As you can see from the streamable link, calli is very bad at lying on the spot. And shes very poorly lying about connor apologizing.

>>16581620
To be fair, vei basically called cover a black company that actively harms their talents and that its better to be indie
Connor said that company hires make money regardless of their talent

Which one do you think the Japanese find more offensive?

>>16581599
End of vt's sanity, you mean. You faggots are delusional.

>>16581574
>And wouldn't those issues be addressed honestly and with at least basic politeness since they (in theory) come in better faith
That's what someone who appreciates her fans would do, yeah

>>16581603
That is some copium but you might be onto something.

>>16577498
All of you were warned Connor will be a problem. Now he's dug his claws too deep to remove him cleanly. He's a narcissist, a moron, a groomer, unprofessional and a bit creepy. This is what the idolfags warned you about. This shitshow will change hololiveEn for worse, not just for in else. The difference is the in else will know why, while the rest "just kinda lost interest" and goes on to the next interesting hobby to ruin.

>>16581594
They’re both terrible in their own way, though to Kiara’s defense it can be easily written off as her being a bimbo

>>16581625
At least Chicken is honest and open.

>>16581631
This. Everyone forgets about the Kadokawa connection.

>>16581646
Yes.

>>16581574
>I see some people saying that the guy who SC membered the same day
They were a fucking red skull, 1 year member.

>>16581668
ogey

>>16581386
doesnt stop you from seething

>>16581668
Fuck Phoneposting. I meant incels.

>>16581646
/vt/ is the only place on the internet where you can have honest discussion about vtubers. We have more influence than you realize. You'd be wise to remember that.

>>16581668
All of Guras jokes about british people being demons were actually true

>>16581696
At least rrat your okays if you have nothing to say.

>>16581708
>he's a fucking phoneposter
rumao

>>16577498
Look what you did anon. Take some meds with her.

>>16581646
One of the things I like about /vt/ is unlike communities on fagbook and discord servers you can have threads like this.

>>16581413
>fanbase
>legitimate

off yourself. her fanbase is perfectly fine. One or two schizos NEVER matters, and she'd prefer not have any of those people in her fanbase.

The concerns arent legitimate, she's free to associate with whoever she wants , and you dont respect her as a person if you think you have any say.

>>16580012
You’re on /vt/ anon we’re too autistic to detect irony.

>>16581668
Sasuga, Connorchama

>>16581714
>honest Schizophrenic opinion
fixed that for you, faggot

>>16581746
threads like this have 0 value, youre delusional cunts with mommy issues

>>16581792
You sure didnt retardchama

>>16581746
Yeah these threads make me feel better about myself, since my feelings and opinions are being validated instead of being shut down. I honestly enjoy these threads more than watching vtubers at this point.

>>16581714
>We have more influence than you realize.
>You'd be wise to remember that.
Congratulations. You made me, just for a moment, want to unironically kill myself due to the amount of absolute fucking cringe that I felt reading that.

>>16581802
Deadbraps coping now, defending for their usless cow

>>16581748
This.

She's a person first, Hololive member second.

>>16579610
Therapy only creates lies about yourself to make your life easier. That's why it stops working when you stop, the real you re-asserts itself.

What the fuck else do you expect from someone who literally said hololive is only 5% of her life

how the fuck did this thread get over 200 replies

>>16581857
kek

>>16581822
Right? Its like spending a year and a half with someone gaslighting you. And then you find that person was gaslighting other people the same way as you

>>16581693
Proof next thread?

>>16579837
I don't think she even said it was

>>16581748
I don't respect her or her fanbase anymore after this shitshow. I used to be a tier 2 member. This bitch will ruin Hololive and her own chances of success if she continues this path
Does this moron really think she's "networking"?
Bad sense of business on top of bad judgement of character. If she ever tries to find real success outside of the herbivore Werbe-Community, she'll be eaten alive. Alcoholic and destitute at the ripe age of 35.

>>16581857
yes im sure you are totally not seething at your schizo narrative instead of watching vtubers you like.

Why not do something good for someone you like, loser?

>>16581857
Dilate, she's more popular that whoever your oshi is.

>>16581062
Kinda makes sense honestly
>Connor, her friend, commits a yab directed at hololive, a company she works at and has close friends at.
>Some random dude approached Mori and was actually kinda aggressive in bringing up the situation
>Mori called him out because of information that that guy didn't know in the first place
>Mori is now acting childish by constantly referencing and interacting with him

>>16581857
but I'm a deadbeat that made the thread and 30% of the post here. One way to deal with you fags is to shitpost harder. Its not rocket science

>>16581885
SEA hours. This shit is like crack for them, they can't get enough

>>16581802
They do have value, they allow open discussion and can be entertaining.

>>16581822
Facebook groups and discord servers are no different than reddit because of how fucking gay the community can be about disagreements.

>>16581714

>>16579977
This is the best way to say you didn't watch the stream

>>16581714
>honest discussion about vtubers
Good one Anon! Got any more jokes? The fucking jannies are so cucked by their own oshi they'll find the most bs reason to remove and ban you.
I've been 3 day banned for racism and trolling outside of /b/ more time then I can count because I dare speak ill of whatever jannie is awake at the times oshi, while the catalogue is full of anti thread spamming up the board from a bunch of samefags. 5 fucking Ayame is a whore threads. 3 fucking Sana is a lazy cunt threads etc
Enforce the rules equally or fuck off and let the shit fly.

>>16581906
sorry you wasted your money on that SC, anon.
but i must know, does it feel good when she called you a loser?

>>16581879
I know this is just a shitty bait thread but here's the context anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTXgCF-Ezyk&t=9892s

>>16581748
Sure thing anon, replying to a fan saying
>"hey, watch out, I think associating with X could be bad for you"
with a
>"fuck you, I can associate with whoever I want and you don't respect me as a person if you think otherwise"
is the normal, adult thing to do.

>>16581901
>>16581938
Exactly! See you guys get it. These are the only threads where we can be free of retarded gaslighting and just be ourselves. It's liberating honestly.

>>16581952
jannies will fuck you again, now.
goodbye anon

>>16581933
>SEA hours
Currently 0740 in God's greatest country.

>>16581906
t. pic related

>>16581958
Holy based, i wish I can spend 5% of my day at work. Im kind of jealous now

>>16581966
paraphrasing, what is even.

>>16581550
Kiara's bad brings only herself down
Mori's bad is capable of bringing down the entire EN branch

>>16581958
Wtf? Was that it? From the posts I read I thought Mori was shitting on hololive and her fans. Whoops...

>>16581432
She can.
All other vtubers are actual weebs.
Hate on then all they want, but gura and Kiara were both the weird weeb girls in their respective highschools and truly love Japanese culture in all it's forms
Calli however is fake as fuck and only in it for the money

>>16582006
>>16581901
>>16581938
Reeks of samefag.

>gonna be honest with ya deadbeats...
>ya boi.... lives a super busy life...
>and basically hololive is 5% of my life...
>theres a me beyond what you see deadbeats and thats ok
>my dad showed me this sick drink combination, its 5 cotton candy bang energies mixed with a 2L of vodka deadbeats
>my dad beat my mom but he was a really cool guy sometimes
>sorry deadbeats I'm super tired i got 2 hours of sleep I'll be honest
>sorry if I havent been myself deadbeats, ya boi has been working really hard and it seems like im just alternating between animating, recording, and writing.
>ya boi is tryin his best right now
>Yeah I loved it. Listened to it 50 times~
Deadbeats dont let her abuse you anymore

>>16582061
anytime now. Oh nyooo big bad pink women just shit on me

>>16581966
>is the normal

yes it is , everything there is correct. She shouldnt have responded at all and just permabanned him.

>>16581960
I never paid a dime to superchat.
I don't need the acknowledgment of a YouTuber to feel secure in my existence. First and foremost it's entertainment.
Talents are products and time spent watching streams nothing more than recreational.

>>16581204
Retardio, the proper way if you really care would be to send that concern offstream. Only a dramawhore or schizo would send something then know is that inflammatory onstream.

>>16582086
non

>>16582086
Nah you're off the mark this time. I was samefagging in another thread but not this one.

is this a mori love thread? Feels good to be back home again. What a good way to start the day!

>>16582101
Some faggot will look at this post. Take several minutes to reflect and then akasupa Mori just to spite it.

Deadbeats.

>>16580946
Kiara and Connor were silent tho?

>>16582078
They’re all weebs, but I can kind of see where you’re getting at. Ina and Ame were also weebs in highschool.

>>16582155
>>16582166
good Photoshop technique of trying to hide it under a super low-res pic, nice try.

>>16582071
Shitposters like to pretend that her 5% comment meant that she only puts 5% of her effort into Hololive but what she actually meant was that you only saw about 5% of her Hololive work on stream, meaning that she does a lot of work behind the scenes. Now she's one of the streamers that stream the most in EN.

>>16582188
>Mori's back to being /vt/'s enemy #1
Ah I feel back home y'know? It's good to see the queen retake her rightful spot!
MORI LOVE

>>16582101
Not sure how the last one's supposed to mean something.

>>16582078
can you blame her though? I think its fine. Heck I would have done the same. Join a company and make a truck load of money

>>16582246
The replies are less than a minute apart my nigga.
Everyone fucks up occasionally. No big deal. It's better to be overly aware of samefagging than to be completely blind to it.

>>16580946
I'll go with ya boi on tha one, Connor inflated ego wouldn't let him apologize and Kiara doesn't lie nor she have reason to.

>Oh nyooo, it's the end of Hololive.

This thread just keeps on giving.

>>16580717
An apology from Calli is meaningless because his opinion that was so controversial is one she shares. She should be apologizing to her co-workers, not defending him to people who already know she's talking out of her ass. She's too cowardly to admit to her co-workers what she and her friends think of them.

>>16582322
>he still doubts what is almost upon us
I can't wait to have the last laugh. Then you'll see...

>>16580722
Mori tried to extend the drama by looping in EN into her drama when it was none of their business and she had no right to bring them in. She implicated all of them in a fuck-up that is entirely her own. He's her friend, not theirs.

>>16582128
I actually want to apologize for that.
This was uncalled for and hurtful, even though it's kinda true once you remove the fluff and the illusion of a girl and thousands of adult men(and women) playing pretend. But some streamers and their audience form a genuine, weird bond with each other, despite it being all fake.

>>16582310
Unless you are in a 3rdworld country, you should have both a smartphone and some form of PC, 2 consecutive post is more than feasible. I believed in worst shit in this board, i will believe you are a samefag.

I'm out of the loop.
Isn't Connor the eceleb banging ironmouse? What did he an calliope Mori do together that's so controversial, and how do we know she lied?

>>16582255
What kind of work could she possibly be implying shes doing behind the streams that are 20x more content than we see on stream for hololive?
>recording
We see the result of that in her channel because she posts those
>animating
See above
>writing lyrics
Also can see the results in videos. Is she implying she does managerial or business work behind the scenes or something? Is there a secret desk job that being a holomem also forces you into?

>>16582407
Damn I respect that conviction. Based.

>>16582277
She was the talentless hack getting a free ride the whole time, if only connor could undastand. Its funny as hell to think about cause thats what Mori is most insecure about, going as far qs to ghost all her friends when she got the free ride with hololive instead of building her music career

>>16582413
arguing with brain dead, backwards thinking JP management is prolly 90% of her job

>>16582378
Not that anon, but I feel like a lot of people like EN because they’re approachable kawaii anime girls to them. Speaking personally I enjoy this kind of drama and sperging between barely functional womanchildren, but I also enjoyed laughing at a certain member of cake royalty getting excited about shitty gacha games before hololive.

>>16582359
Give this guy more free time so he can keep posting cringe. Its so good.

>>16582413
>20x more content
It took me a second to realize where you got this number from until I realized that you were taking 5% literally. Holy fucking autism.

>>16582475
>talentless hack
she is a shitty person for sure but I would not call her a talentless hack. Not with the amount of good music she pumps out and unique art style

Alright, the thread is autosaging. Good work everyone, we can go home now.

>>16582078
>Calli however is fake as fuck and only in it for the money
The funny thing is that she literally admitted this, too

>>16582409
Here's easily explanation for you INT 3
>Mori say Connor already apologize to all member of Holo EN
>Kiara say she doesn't get apologize from him
So which one is speaking truth and which one ls lying ? Well good for you if you don't care about both of them

Hololive is YAGOO's home for the mentally ill women, and Mori is certainly no exception. She's just the bad kind of mentally ill, you know what I'm saying?

>>16582595
Yeah this thread was a good way to kill some time. Same time tomorrow everyone? Great.

>>16582537
What the fuck did she mean by 5% then nigger?

>>16582621
Apologize for what?

>>16582409
Yes, connor is the eceleb leeching off mouse
He is part of Trash Taste, that podcast mori did

In a mouse stream he said that it doesn't matter if you have talent, join a company and you will be successful. And that HOLOLIVE WAS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF THIS.
This is basically calling an unknown number of hololive chubbas talentless hacks
Mori is not involved... yet

So now its a mori member stream
A member superchats her basically calling out connor for this
Mori gets very angry at this SC,
Mori then says that she already spoke with connor and that he apologized to everybody already and that this shouldn't be brought up or a problem
Then tells the member to take his money back and un-member.

So its not what they did together
Its that connor was an asshole
And that mori is covering for him
And she probably lied doing so.

>>16582626
Growing up as white trash, i totally know what you mean

>>16582621
>Kiara say she doesn't get apologize from him

Kiara never said this.

>>16582409
Mori is one of his sidebitches and both he and her think Hololive is made up of talentless whores that are propped up by the brand but somehow they have enough cognitive dissonance to not realize Calli is the biggest proof of their theory.

>>16582690
Kiara said that she has no interaction with the trash taste people
So therefore she didnt get an apology.

>>16582663
Good summary, thank you based deadbrap

>>16582652
Connor disgraced hololive and said that every holo should be fired on the spot.

>>16582626
Good thing Subaru is normal person. And No, lusting Moona doesn't count as mental illness

>>16582709
While the discussion was who contacted her during the stream.

>>16582750
She's the exception that confirms the rule.

>>16577955
anon. It's not like everyone doesn't want to take a stand against evil. everyone just doesn't want to take a stand against the norm, either good or evil.

>>16582786
see
>>16581366
There's a difference between "Its not them" and "I don't speak to them."

>>16582709
Isn't it possible that there's some kind of miscommunication going on and in a few days everything will be cleared up? Thus coming to the conclusion that Mori is definitely lying without hearing further proof is just jumping to conclusions for the sake of shitting up the board?

>>16582789
So all of them are talentless except Mori? Bold claim.

>>16582842
You are putting words in Kiara's mouth.

>>16582709
no interaction != never been contacted by him. she didn't say she's never interacted with them but that there's no interaction, but you're too braindead to make that distinction

>>16582888
There’s a lot I’d put in her mouth.

Calliope is just the beginning of the end.
Original vtubers were common girls, in love with Japanese culture, who dreamt of being anime girls, japanese idols and japanese tarentos, given a chance by Japanese businessmen to live the dream they couldn't outside vtubing because of their age, ugliness or just lack of luck.
But when vtubers exploded, greedy women who would be twitch thots, instawhores or bang SoundCloud rappers for networking started looking at vtubbing with increasingly greedy eyes, not as an object for their affection, a way to live their dream and do what they always loved, but as a stepping stone for ecelebrity, irl music careers and being vapid irl minor celebs.
As time goes on, the real weebs and Japanese girls who dreamed of being idols and who are actually passionate and grateful for their work will start being replaced by ethots who know how to play the social game and manipulate simps better, more heartless, soulless and greedy.
You think Mori is bad? Soon only the Belle Delphines of this world will become vtubers, and girls like Kiara and Pekora will be openly mocked by the mainstream of the industry they helped build.
Even worse. These hoes will use their money and fame to break free from japanese companies and westernize and further bastardize the vtubing scene.
Their boyfriends will be constantly on their streams and some will become literal vtuber pimps.
People will weep and long for the good old days when the worst they had to deal with was vshoujo.
Veibae will be positively compared to the newer crop of vtubers and be seem as an example of earnestness and honesty.
It's not a good future, folks.

>>16582859
Here's what will happen. Not necessarily in order. Screenshot this post

>Mori will bring it up offhand in a superchat or zatsudan stream
>She will be much more calm and professional about it, while still calling out the guy who superchatted
>Connor will bring it up on either his stream or mouse's stream
>He will say he didn't mean it that way, just that successful companies generate more success than people can do on their own. Not that hololive are talentless.
>Everybody will start treating it as a nothingburger
>Anybody who is still grudge-posting against mori will be told that its already dealt with and to move on
>After some time people will actually move on
And mori and connor will both get away with everything.

>>16582878
>talentless
No? They just have varying degrees of mental illness.

>>16582917
I've been trying to think of a way to word my thoughts for a while and this encapsulates it perfectly. Thanks anon. I'm gonna save this to prove my case to others.

>>16582663
Why is she so mad, anyway? Is Connor fucking her too?

>>16582859
Not really, everyone already understands the miscommunication, nobody actually thought Kiara or any of Hololive was apologized to (unless they are retarded) but the point is to force Calli to acknowledge her bringing EN into her lie was a mistake.

>>16582917
/thread
Fuck Mori and whoever supports her

>>16578665
>Which part was good?
>Aaaall of it

Kek, holy fuck. Been a while since I've seen this one. I fucking love my Mori but she's a real dope sometimes.

>>16582979
Yes.

ftlog can someone please post a link or a timestamp to the mouse stream where connor claims holo is talentless

>>16582985
>but the point is to force Calli to acknowledge her bringing EN into her lie was a mistake.
There you go again. You're missing the point of my post and are assuming that you have all of the facts. This happens every single time. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it anon.

>>16578665
>probably talking about that rick roll tweet
>calli too retarded to build up on that conversation