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13:00 - Pandora ETS2
https://www.twitch.tv/utanopandora

15:00 - Emma Thief Simulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Bkk_Z6-Eg

17:00 - Lumi 24h subathon
https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi

18:00 - Hylo VRChat collab
https://www.twitch.tv/ayanehylo

20:00 - Chapipi zatsudan
YT Link TBD placeholder waiting rooms would be greatly appreciated if it's a matter of no thumbnails

02:00 - Inori ASMR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7IW3yMKPbo

03:00 - Menace test subject app review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSS9fPj5iUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y5td_Q2bEE
do your wander reps
we're gonna make it bros

Yuri! I love you! I hope you have a fun day today!

>cyberlive
>no one is live

>>16455235
Pandora...
https://www.twitch.tv/utanopandora

disappointed that Pandora changed the schedule desu, I was looking forward to trucking

I'm going to do my best for my idol Menace today

Are there any streams you enjoyed lately? Why?

>>16458706
Pandora's last Yakuza 7, and all of Emma.

>>16457880
I liked menaces asmr stream enough to listen to it like six times. Not the bullying one but the one before it. I dont even care about the gfe it was just good asmr.
Karaoke streams are always fun too.

Everyday until Chapipi sings Liberame from Hell

>>16458706
>Are there any streams you enjoyed lately?
menace 10k
>Why?
cause fuck you that's why

>>16460808
I don't really "get" ASMR. Is it a "you either get it or you don't" thing?

What's a subathon anyway. Explain twitch culture to me.

>>16462299
It's a cover word for money begging stream. As they get more subs(money), they reach goals, which translate to promises to the audience, like they'll have a certain kind of stream or challenge or whatever. It's like a worse version of "singing until I reach X subs".

What's a Spaceship Pass?

>>16462426
Permanent access to all of discord

Sheeesh. 'Emma's punching way above her weight class. Goodness fucking gracious. The only people in the Big Five (CL, Phase, Kawaii, Tsunderia, PRISM) that get this level of CCV for regular streams on YT are Shiki and Miori.
Lumi. Misaki. I fucking KNEEL.
>>16462299
>What's a subathon anyway. Explain twitch culture to me.
YouTube has Members.
Twitch has Subscriptions.
The streamer streams until a certain number of subscriptions has been reached or streams for a set amount of time during which a certain amount of Subscriptions translate into certain actions.
>We have crashed subathons several times for fun when raiding from Lumi into someone else. Arypie for example had her subathon pretty much erased 20 minutes into what was planned on being a 12 hour stream because Lumi's viewerbase is heavily biased towards highly-paid professionals with loads of disposable cash.

>>16462220
I guess so.
It gives me shivers down my spine when done correctly. It's basically like someone whispering in your ear when you're not expecting it, so your muscles tense up. Since it's based on your physiology though, its not guaranteed that everyone will get it.
Do you have a good pair of earphones? That's usually the way you're supposed to listen to asmr. Those can completely change the experience by turning it from just some sound you hear to hearing someone blow directly in your ear.

>goals go up to 3000 subs
Either miscalculated or severe money begging

>>16462651
Watch as she gets 3000+ subs and cries her way to the bank. Life's expensive in big burger cities.

>>16462698
>Life's expensive in big burger cities.
Not true, she can always come live in with me

>>16462220
I don't like traditional ASMR with the "triggers" or whatever, but I enjoy the soft chatting or scripted ones, or ones with heartbeats, because they're cozy and good for falling asleep to. And also GFE.

>>16462742
Don't take her business yuri seriously Yubichama...

I'm not giving her a single cent, but you faggots better get Lumi to 3000 subs. I don't care about any of the rewards or incentives, but she absolutely deserves to get an EP. If there's one thing you objectively can't hate about Lumi it's that she's a really good singer.

What's the strat for these things.
Do most subs come in the beginning and end?

I don't just want Emma. It's a need. A hunger.

>end goal 3000 subs
Isn't that too high for small chuubas?

>>16463590
I've seen /wvt/ indies reach that and more with a third of her audience

Granted, she is ToT

>>16463674
you mean as a sustained audience or product of a subathon?

>>16463745
A third of Lumi's audience.

CUTE NAILS

Lumi's white hands!

>>16463951
OUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LUMI HANDS EROTIC

>>16463951
kayfabebros...

>>16463951
Imagine these wrapped around your throat...Uwaaa

>>16463951
>actually white
dropped

>>16463951
>Imagine these wrapped around your cock...Uwaaa

>>16463951
Imagine these digging into your back...Uwaaa

Lumi makes a heart!

>>16463951
these are very asian hands! i know of it!!!

>>16464130
Don't give up chinkbro, you haven't seen her face.

>>16464244
all chuubas are asian or half-asian until proven otherwise

>>16462506
The hell you talking about anon, Nene from Kawaii hits over 100 almost always and has no trouble hitting 300-400 at times. Miori can hit larger numbers too and has little issues getting in the 200s on the average stream.
While on the flip side Shiki who has over 100k subs struggles to stay above 200 while dipping into the 100s.

>>16463951
Lumi is NOT a nigger

>>16462762
I enjoy all but eating and mouth sounds. Or anything harsh.

>>16464354
he probably has outdated info, Miori and Nene did abuse their youtube algoritm to jump that far ahead but Emma is in the top in terms of CCV no doubt compared to the other corpos for sure.

Menace booba reveal stream when?

Lumi's sweater looks really comfy and I want to hug her while she's wearing it! Mostly because I want to hug Lumi but I bet the sweater feels really nice too!

>cursive is supposed to be a big deal
Do americans really?

>>16464404
I cant stand eating sounds either, or heartbeats for that matter. Bodily sounds filter me i guess.

>missed the start of the stream because I'm an ADHD retard that gets sidetracked constantly
What'd I miss?
>>16463590
Honestly, hardly.

Imagine not writing everything in cursive

>>16464538
When you're a kid I guess, I've pretty much forgotten some cursive and haven't used it since I learned in elementary

lumi has chubby hands, kinda cute

>>16464362
She got a body double and is doing voiceover.

>>16464595
Just the opening subs and Lumingers.

I want to suck on Lumi's fingers

what's with the claw grip?

>>16464607
I was told that by the 5th grade, we'd be writing in cursive exclusively all the way into our adult lives from then on, and then that just wasn't true at all. I still remember how to do it, but I write in print any time that I need to write anything by hand, because most people look at cursive letters like they're hieroglyphics.

>>16464538
Cursive is no longer taught in American schools. One of the first things new applicants at my work have to do is provide that they can read/write cursive and ~75% fail.

>>16462598
I had what was a decent pair when I bought them, but they're pretty damn old & have been through the ringer. I have a nicer pair I mostly used in the office back when I had to actually work in person so I'll try those out & see if I enjoy it.

>>16464773
That's how she will hold my dick when giving me a handjob

>>16464773
artist thing

>>16464855
lol mutts lmao.
I can't fucking write in maiscule/minuscule properly for shit, shit is fucking awful compared to cursive

>>16464921
>>16464855
>>16464538
Opposite for me. I have to actually think if I want to write non-cursive.

>>16464778
I was taught (forced) to write cursive in elementary school. In highschool it becomes a requirement to write in print because writing cursive at a fast pace makes it illegible. Basically it just looks nice but only if you take the time because otherwise it's like someone threw up ink on paper

>not using gloves
SHE VIOLATED THE LAW

>>16464985
How many times were you deducted points because teachers/professors couldn't write understand your handwriting?

>>16465054
Her hands are dainty and cute so it's okay.

CYBERLIVE LOVE
please show your support with watching and participation!

>>16465235
I tried watching but got bored, sorry.

I WANT TO FUCK LUMI'S HANDS I WANT TO FUCK LUMI'S HANDS I WANT TO FUCK LUMI'S HANDS I WANT TO FUCK LUMI'S HANDS I WANT TO FUCK LUMI'S HANDS I WANT TO FUCK LUMI'S HANDS

>>16465271
Hylo is also streaming.

>>16465090
>>16463951
I'm amused that my completely useless superpower came through again.
I can roughly tell how someone looks by the way they talk and how they see the world. Loomers has the worldview of someone naturally attractive.

>>16465310
can you tell me what my facial hair is like?

>>16465310
What do you think about the other girls?

Menace please do a hand reveal next.....

>>16465310
>she said multiple times that she's physically attractive
>"I've figured out that she's physically attractive"
Good job, detective Anon.

>>16464921
>lol mutts lmao.
wait, cursive is considered a good thing elsewhere?
why lmao
its so fucking useless outside of signatures and even then most of those are digital today

>>16465605
I know a lot of fat 3/10 slags with hideous faces who think they're hot

>>16465672
it's the fastest, smoother and cleanest way to write anything but meme runes language

>>16465743
>it's the fastest, smoother and cleanest way to write anything but meme runes language
This, and in fact people have been switching to languages with cursive just for that.

>>16465743
ok but not really

>>16465850
ok mutt

>>16465743
I wouldn't say "cleanest" looking at how I write and some other people I work with write, but it is very fast.

>>16465672
>>16465743
imagine not living in a place where technology is so saturated that you need to write things down in anything other than a non proffessional capactiy

>>16465892
see >>16465914

>>16465914
>unironically coping this hard

>>16465834
It's definitely the fastest. You could tell which of my courses were the hardest by comparing to see if I wrote in cursive or print for my notes.

>Twitch's biggest Phasmo addict chuuba came by
Lumi really knows everyone.

>>16466107
don't worry, your country will get there eventually and then you'll see

>hylo at barely 30 ccv
>lumi at 280
where are my hylo posters..

>>16466332
I switched to Hylo as soon as she went live. I want to get her addicted to french kissing.

>>16466361
>>16466332
>click hylo
>footpandering
You enjoy her. Not for me.

>>16466434
>everyone on stream using their actual models
>hylo with random ones gura
a little weird honestly

>>16466434
liar, I just checked. you promised foot pandering

>>16466512
random ones/gura*

>>16466434
>footpandering
She has two toes.

Hylo is a whore

>>16466680
They may have her body, but I'm the one with her heart.

Why does virtually every single VRChat streamer C O N S T A N T L Y fuck around with the camera?

Did Lumi get raided or are they natural numbers?

>>16466764
No raids yet

>>16466758
because they're usually new/unskilled when it comes to streaming in vr. if you watch larger streamers they setup the camera properly, and move it for scene changes etc. Hylo just sucks at it apparently

>>16466764
>Did Lumi get raided or are they natural numbers?
Natural incline + event stream. She's passed Kitanya and Koopa and should pass BatAt & Nina soon.

>>16466832
>because they're usually new/unskilled when it comes to streaming in vr. if you watch larger streamers they setup the camera properly, and move it for scene changes etc. Hylo just sucks at it apparently
Hylo's had her setup for 5 months or so at this point. This shouldn't be an issue anymore.

>>16466939
>>16466939
>>16466758
Hylo just sucks(me)

>>16466041
>>16466320
I don't follow American news that often but do you remember when the biggest pipeline in the world got hacked by some basement dwellers? Or when a small cold hit Texas and the electric infrastructure of the state just kinda broke down for a week or 2? Do you know musk's starlink main demographic is Americans with shitty internet? Do you know Romania, a genuine 3rd world shithole has better internet on average that you? Not to mention its cheaper

https://twitter.com/AmarisYuri/status/1482425805334618114

>>16466939
>implying the chuuba that slept through most of her subathon would be competent
hearty kek anon

>>16466996
*oil pipeline in America

>>16467042
Hylo has never been competent. Kind of like Pippa, saying/doing stupid shit.

>>16467180
at the very least Pippa pulls viewers. Hylo is in a worse spot than Panda right now

>Yuri getting 2nd covid
Don't die Yuri! I love you!

>>16467211
On the plus side, at least Hylo didn't make awful comments about another vtuber(intentionally)

>>16467297
Pippa has been making awful comments?

Hylo has been Seina'd for a while, which is why she's in a rough spot right now.

>>16467297
Are you really confident about that anon?

>>16467296
Covid is a nothing burger

>>16467297
Pandora has been making awful comments?

>>16467337
He means le ebin tweet about Asuka as if anyone in here cares about it.

>>16467297
CL could use a dose of making awful comments about other VTubers, specifically VShojo and the whore side of ENTubers

>>16467211
At least Hylo isn't a lesbian

>>16467385
what? I meant at least Hylo didn't say anything awful(intentionally) like Pippa did. I dropped her because of that.

>>16467400
That's just damage control for the furry boyfriend.

>>16467393
instead of that, Hylo gets her whole company fucked over

>>16467400
Hi /pcg/

>>16466996
>unironically coping this hard

>>16467350
who?

>>16467400
Hylo flew up to Yuri's place for Thanksgiving anon. Word on the board is that they had some sort of falling out during the dinner which is why they don't interact as much as they used to.

>>16467487
Pandora's wife

>>16467489
i, too, enjoy spreading baseless rrats.

>>16467489
Yeah anon I'm sure that happened.

>>16467211
This. Hylo's just a liability with none of the upsides.

>>16467489
>Word on the board
what board? jp? this hasnt been discussed in these threads once

Everyone shut the fuck up Chapipi is live in 40 minutes.

>>16467042
I guess that's fair -- It's just a little funny to me because of how hi-spec and hard-working nearly everyone else in the company is.

>>16467445
>instead of that, Hylo gets her whole company fucked over
kekked
>>16467337
>Pippa has been making awful comments?
KFP are sensitive as fuck more news at eleven.

>>16465743
imagine being this retarded

>>16462506
>spoiler
This honestly surprised me. Most vtuber fans I know are pieces of shit, then you go into Lumi's discord and it seems like most of the active members are doctors, scientists, programmers, or some other decent or well paid white collar job. I know a lot of it is owed to Lumi herself being pretty ambitious and multitalented, but relative to the overall vtuber fanbase of NEETs and underage kids it's really shocking to me

kot

Who else ditching Lumi for Chapipi soon?

>>16468072
oh trust me there are plenty of NEETs as well
not saying anything bad about them, but they definitely exist
main thing is how active the fanbase is and how mature it was built I suppose

>>16468188
I'm ditching because I still haven't made my submission for Menace's stream tonight

>>16468026
>anon writes like this for convenience in present day 2020+2

>>16468294

>>16468294
Hurry bro, and make it cringe so I don't have to be alone in my cringeness.

>>16468188
Not watching both? Disgracefuru

>>16468072
>This honestly surprised me. Most vtuber fans I know are pieces of shit, then you go into Lumi's discord and it seems like most of the active members are doctors, scientists, programmers, or some other decent or well paid white collar job. I know a lot of it is owed to Lumi herself being pretty ambitious and multitalented, but relative to the overall vtuber fanbase of NEETs and underage kids it's really shocking to me
Yeah I feel that. It's really refreshing and - considering she's living off it full time - proves that cultivating a fanbase that can handle itself and is attracted to ambition rather than comfort is also a financially sound decision.
Kind of reminds me of how Mori consistently tops earnings charts by running a similar strategy of attracting aspirational professionals whereas Poormates are a meme for a very good reason.

>>16468431
I want to watch Misaki

>person follows
>Person gets anonymous sub
Like clockwork.

>>16467464
>Why learn cursive when you can just just your pc
>Why learn calculus when you can just just your calculator
Well that's not really the point isn't it, no wonder Americans are so culturally bankrupt

It's so much easier to get subs on Twitch than it is to get members on YT.

>the goal is Lumi e-pee

>>16467953
>>16467337
Dude, how are you okay with (essentially) joking about how someone else got molested on video?

>>16467337
Pippa is a retard for misinterpreting a HFZ maro but I'm glad to see KFP is still seething

>>16469156
Because oil barons can gift it to you to support the channel

>>16469156
Yes but the drawback to that is that you can't use it as an indicator of loyalty.

>>16469257
YT is getting gifting soon too

>>16469241
I'm not even KFP, but making jokes about someone (basically) getting molested unintentionally is cruel and unfunny.

>>16469279
I actually dislike that because will very likely mean important member only content will get bumped up a tier.

>>16468863
>implying calculus and cursive are equivalent
seethe harder Dmitri

LUMI IN CBT

ENTER

>>16469354
Is this the greatest cross-over in cinematic history?

>>16469257
Not familar with Youtube, but Twitch allows for different sub badges showing length of the subscription. Also it lets you show your sub streak when you resub

>>16469257
hmm, rather than loyalty I think you're just looking for a way to cater to the paying members specifically
because a viewer that has been around for 6 months and still actively watching/contributing in some way would still be "loyalty" in my eyes, whether they are paying $0 a month themselves or $5 a month

SHUT THE FUCK UP LUMINIGGERS CHAPIPI IS ON!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou2c6iV4EIk

>>16469424
That's the same on YT, except that resubbing is automatic.

>>16469424
YT has the free membership super chat that shows sub length but not if it is a streak or not

>>16469440
>hmm, rather than loyalty I think you're just looking for a way to cater to the paying members specifically
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

>>16469257
I never understood that objection. Probability makes it incredibly unlikely to get your sub continued once it expires.

>>16469515
I'm pretty sure there is a cool down on recieving gifted subs from a channel as well

>>16469461
It's automatic on both platforms.

>>16469383
I must go my planet needs me
>Lumi died in the way to his homeplanet

>>16469451
Shut up retard. Go watch her by yourself

>>16469383
>she was a Bog all along

I'm terrified.

Mendicant retards such as I
Entertained by pixels on a screen/spoiler]
Such is the nature of getting by/spoiler]
Unctuous posts say not what they mean/spoiler]
Garrulous with hopes to fit in/spoiler]
All I wish is to see its sovl/spoiler]
Ken to what makes this kinship whole/spoiler]
Inciting hopes to see her win/spoiler]

>>16469950
Kiamm...

>>16468732
explain?

M
endicant retards such as I
Entertained by pixels on a screen
Such is the nature of getting by
Unctuous posts say not what they mean
Garrulous with hopes to fit in
All I wish is to see its sovl
Ken to what makes this kinship whole
Inciting hopes to see her win
I'm retarded bro pls understand

>>16469324
>Suddenly I'm Russian
Well I can't blame you for assuming because they really don't teach you about any other country in your "1st" world public schools
You somehow managed to fuck up typing the name properly too, it's Dimitri
I'm also very very mad that someone on the internet doesn't know what it means to enrich your own life for the sake of yourself

>>16468411
What I have is plenty cringe so far, but I have 0 idea what to write because I'm not funny

Chapipi's derpy eyes!

gotta say, god of cutscenes is shit, but I do feel like Lumi tahnking the giftsubs and stuff just ruined a good emotional cutscene there. Could have been timed better

>Anonymous is always taking care of me
Yeah. Me.

>>16470305
Its just how twitch works, she literally does not care

Holy shit.

>>16470519
Who raided?

>>16470602
Neonbeat.

>Chapipi's chat animation

>>16470602
This guy.

>>16469354
>>16469383
Jobmi...

Jingx please. You're giving the newcomers the wrong impression.

Did Lumi always have such a sultry voice?
I don't even mind at all it's pleasing in a way, but I feel it wasn't always like that

>>16470766
She used to put on a more fake jolly voice.

>>16470174
>thinks Dmitri is purely a Russian name
>incorrectly corrects spelling on a Mongolian Basketweaving website Dmitri Shostakovich Dmitri Mendeleev
>complains about another's education when he doesn't know about these famous Dmitris

>>16470766
More relaxed + sultry decoder break + >>16470825 this.
Technically speaking her "sultry" voice is a "lost in thought"/dreamy, she just has high enough charisma your brain renders it differently.
Lumi is living proof that parents forcing their kids to touch grass is based.

>>16470174
Also I'd guess you're Greek based on how you think Dimitri is spelled, you guys haven't been relevant since 1453

>>16470932
She grow up to be a social retard and hypersocial at the same time, I don't think she's mentally well overall. She also seems to either hate her family or have mild PTSD of them. They made a high spec wife for someone at least.

>>16471129
>I don't think she's mentally well overall
That's a prerequisite for this job.

>>16471184
The gen 2s are pretty stable, bar Menace.

>>16471224
Chapipi is way way way way WAY too much of an artist type to not be a complete and utter menhera. I'll give you Inori and Yoki. Emma is a special case on account of being a hag.

>>16471224
Menace is fairly stable aswell, she's just that good into kayfabe
unless you mean the other M

>>16471323
>Chapipi is way way way way WAY too much of an artist type to not be a complete and utter menhera
She's been perfectly normal on stream.

>>16470843
>thinks Dmitri is purely a Russian name
It's the first thing that comes to mind
Though I will say I was in the wrong there
Learning cursive isn't about functionality or education, it might be just a neat skill to have and it shows you're a little bit more high-brow than the rest, but ultimately it makes you a more defined person
>>16471057
Miss

>>16471323
Chapipi is not very menhera by nature of not being very online.

>>16470174
NTA but I agree with the second spoiler. However, judging by you saying that cursive is fast, I don't think you mean it by the formal type, but more casual one, and I don't think that is a huge deal.

>Chapipi is a thighchad
Yeah I'm thinking based.

Goobers, and a scale of 1-10 how cringe are your submissions? I'm making one last minute

>>16471895
Mine is a pretty solid 8/10 on cringe, I just hope that she gets a laugh out of it

>>16469241
kfp didn't care about this at all. Pippa antis were falseflagging as kfp, they are the only ones who keep posting about it too.

>>16467953
>>16469241
not only do I have to deal with Deadbeats like Clero but I have to deal with the KFP seethers here, man this is the worst shit I have to experience ever since getting into Cyberlive.

>>16472283
>>16472113
I'm not KFP or a false flagger. I just think it was really tacky. I liked her before that.

>>16472462
nah nigger I just hate seeing faggot reactions like that when I'm trying to get away from schizos like this with cyberlive, I already have to deal with some goslings that are on the level of "if my oshi loves another man I will end myself" or literally making chapipi saying "cunny" on stream

>>16472113
>>16472462
/pippa/ is leaking... do you need your own general to sort it out?

>>16472088
Is your id just a pic or did you add stuff to it? Sorry to ask but I just get really fixated on doing things the "right way" if that makes sense

Loliconbros we've been lied too...

>>16472655
I'm not her fan anymore.
>>16472598
Sorry I didn't mean to hit a sore spot for anyone. I just think she's extremely lame now for doing that.

Chapipi and her chat are making me feel guilty for not knowing how to cook. It seems really interesting.

>>16472754
I just used a pic of an anime character that I like & thought was amusing, it doesn't really matter.

https://youtu.be/_0cXWeT7neU
I want to pet this cat

>>16473495
Thanks bro

>>16470766
Veibae voice is the new vtubing trend

>>16470766
>>16474205
I hope she keeps it
it's hot

>>16469241
holy shit why do people care so much for something so tiny, one messages among thousands it's a drop in the ocean only retards who populate that kind of board would obsess so much about isolated mistakes like this it just boggles my mind to see that still brought up like PIppa would be constantly making awful comments about another vtuber, fucking hell

>>16470766
>>16474205
It does often sounds like she's constantly on the verge of having an orgasm
It doesn't bother me but I wonder how much of that is just her natural speech

Do your homework coomerbros
https://files.catbox.moe/irkvta.mp3

>>16474848
>she's constantly on the verge of having an orgasm
yes, by me

>>16474848
I wouldn't mind it as much if I didn't hear every fifth vtuber do it. It does nothing for me

What is this conversation...

Are you ready for the Lumi daki?

MISAKI LOVE

>>16475818
glad to see cyberlive is in good hands

The Lumi GFE.....

Misaki talk to your talents please

Okay but where is my Misaki daki with exposed feet ????

I kneel

Misa based
Lumi based

Misaki is seething

>>16475818
>>16476345

why lumi has 2 numbers on the subathon thing? I´m sure she explained it but I must have missed it

how is cyberlive doing as a company?

>>16476446
the countdown machine broke so now she manually inputs subs. We're at 1k.

>>16476446
beginning of the stream had like 600 subs and overloaded stream elements

>>16476839
>>16476446
A better question would be why a 24 hour subathon has 43 hours to go.

>>16477009
Subs extend the time.

>>16466332
https://twitter.com/AyaneHylo/status/1482472060706332685

>>16476497
Relatively speaking vtubers companies can be in the red for quite some time since their expenses are next to none.
They pay minimal wage, provide no benefits and in the case of nijisanji, not even that.

It's all about how deep are the pockets of the guy running the show until they hit black, which Tsunderia already did with less net numbers.

I FORGOT TO CONGRATULATE CHAPIPI FOR 4K SUBS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>16477881
>provide no benefits and in the case of nijisanji, not even that.

what did he mean by this

>>16477974
You should die then

>>16477986
Nijisanji has negative health benefits since the sempais will actively bully you ruining your mental health

>>16477881
>provide no benefits
>guarenteed numbers
>group of streamers
>marketing
>hardware support
>not all people can drop thousands on models, companies pay for it all
in the case of cyber there is also
>inhouse 3D according to lumi since yuris model
>music production
>ownership rights
probably lots more i am unaware of but saying corps do nothing is simply a lie

>>16478233
Culling the weak is a smart thing to do in a company as big as that.

>>16477881
If the CEO is who we think he is, the pockets are deep.

Something something Prism Project black company

The only corp that does legit nothing and sometimes less than nothing is Cover.

>>16477809
Hylo can you just admit you can't stream kekw

>>16477986
He fucked the sentence. He meant to say they don't pay a wage.
Which, as an aside, very few companies do. Phase and Holo are the only ones who do.

>>16478478
lol I can visibly see your seethe

>>16478440
What is the CEO rrat for Cyber?

>>16478611
My chicken does everything herself and all Cover does is actively sabotage her efforts, begone.

>>16478610
Phase dropped it after a month for gen 1. Fish said so on their d*scord. They deemed it unneeded which I agree with.

>>16478326
No benefits as in health benefits. Merely discussing how much it costs to run a vtuber company.

Cyber CEO is a swell guy for the standards of the industry, and indies under his wing are better now than they were before.
This is not the case for MyHoloTv, for example.

>inb4 actual slugma comes in and replies to me angrily again mumbling something about expenses

If you are understaffed you should just hire me instead of complaing All your life revolves around me anyway, you keep replying to me both on stream and here. Marry me.

>>16478838
Well if they deemed it unneeded then surely it wouldn't hurt their pockets to actually keep them. Sounds like an excuse to lower expenses.

>>16478478
>The only corp that does legit nothing and sometimes less than nothing is Cover.
"Nothing" is a bit overstating it, but yes they're - despite being less than 8 years old - acting like some crusty 30 year old company.

>>16479034
I mean I agree it was expense lowering but at the same time it can encourage less streams. If I got paid x amount per week I'd be less inclined to stream more or do an extra stream that week.

probably the worst place to ask but I have an indie friend that wants to try to push for a brand company, she regularly gets around 60 viewers, plays a mix of rpg, horror, and ygo duel links

is there any notice of a new wave for auditioning here?

>>16479801
we just had gen 2 debut a month ago, it's going to be a long while before gen 3 auditions

>>16479987
misaki said they are doing auditions sometime this month before she died

>Misaki likes the self-deprecating types...

>>16479801
The two managers are currently talking about the process of putting it together.
Generally the barriers are:
10
20
30
50
80
100
280
Etc.
If she keeps streaming and passes at least one of those CCV barriers she'll almost certainly be discovered.

>>16480527
I can list around 20 things i hate about myself misaki please marry me

>>16480914
Marriage only hurts the man sorry anon. I can't do that to you.

>>16480527
Misaki I am a sad, broken individual and Cyberlive is the only source of joy in my life, please marry me!!!!!!!

>>16480527
>tfw hate myself to the nth degree but absolutely never ever going to admit that to anyone
Honestychads... go on without me...

Misaki, please don't marry me, but please do give me a job! I'm not even desperate! I just want to help the girls incline and help my other vtuber friends by bettering my social and marketing skills! I can work on merch! My current job is entirely B2B and involves dealing with Supply Chains! I also like strategy gaming so we can hang out on off hours! Please Misaki!

>>16479987
>>16480829

thanks friends

>>16480527
Misaki, as much as I platonically love you, don't bait lonely losers like us. You deserve better, have a good rest my dude

>>16476497
Misaki said Cyberlive was at breakeven.
All they money they've invested so far they've earned back and more but they havent made enough to be profitable. So they're in the black but not in the green which is honestly perfectly fine for a company that's this new.

>>16480092
>doing auditions sometime this month
I doubt that. It would be nijisanji levels of retarded to start auditions for a new gen a month after their most recent gen debuted.
Are you sure she didn't talk about starting the hiring process for the artists/riggers instead? Cause then I would understand.

>>16483011
>90% cut
>3D
>whatever other shit they constantly throw out
>already at break even
Shit son.

>>16483149
which brings into light how badly and exploitative other small corpos are run desu.

https://twitter.com/MAlchemilla/status/1482485555984281603
Menace, the hands are swapped.

>>16483111
Auditions take 1-2 months to finish so it isn't unreasonable. Gen 2 took 4 months to release, which means no new gens until May.

MENACE LOVE!

Chipbos do your homework specifically you coomers
https://files.catbox.moe/irkvta.mp3

>>16483424
Menace SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>>16483111
Misaki says it takes about 6 months of work to release a gen. If they release 2 gens a year it would still only be 10 members a year which is quite a reasonable rate of recruitment.

Lumichat is... unique.

>>16478650
all rrats, don't trust me, not libel. based on >>6109349
there was a startup called Yunity. every talent left it before debut because the manager was underage (and the owners gf). there are (maybe fake) screenshots in the archive >>6080002 . Yun sold everything.
then what happened? 1 CL bought the models and assets or 2 CL bought the whole company and sacked the old management. the actual rrat was that the CL is Yun rebranded (with the same owner and management)
If you look up LLCs you will find other vtuber companies like Tsunderia but not CL. they must use a different name.
but there is a small company called Yunity in the registry. is it the original or just sharing the same name? they sell trading card.s the CEO also has rich parents. strange coincidence that according to Misaki CyberCEO is from an industry that exploded in 2020. what industry? are they connected? who knows
no meds

>>16485423
I like girls.
Lumi is a girl.
I like Lumi.
It's that simple.

>>16485473
The CEO is probably just into NFTs/Crypto but Misaki can't say. TCGs exploded briefly but not enough to fund something like this.

>>16486500
I think this is also more than likely just also given the backlash NFT people get on Twitter and public reception. Safer for US companies to avoid any connection.

>>16484897
It's very reasonable. My point was about spacing them out evenly, talents need enough time to grow after their debuts otherwise they would thread on eachother too much.

3D LUMI SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>Lumi's 3D has a fully modelled vaj
...modeller is fucking /here/ isn't he...

>>16488452
If they are, I would like to praise them. You do fantastic work good sensei

>>16488318
actual good model so far

>>16488452
3D models being anatomically correct is not an uncommon thing.

>>16476497
>>16477881
Doing "good as a company" is extremely vague and can't be answered like that
more and more tech companies are in the red for years in hope of huge profits in the future
small vtubing corpos are more a rich hobbyist thing than an actual business model right now as the costs are insanely higher than any revenue they get
I assume the CEO doesn't give themselves any salary in most cases but they have to pay the whole staff, even with low wages or assuming they don't hire anyone but get contractors, that's still a huge sum of money every month for a few managers, scouts, a few to run the number and do the paperwork and all

Then they pay the model some pretty expensive, advertisement, work out deals, coves, video production, clipping/highlights
It seems most mods are unpaid for now
Each company works differently
Tsunderia was the first real small corpo of relevance and they had to test the waters a lot and didn't spend as much as many, models were pretty low cost and it showed, they took in a pre existing indie (turned out the best of the gen), clearly cut down on management as slugma was like the only actually doing heavylifting running the numbers herself supporting every talent and being their therapist at once

Companies like Phase Connect and CyberLive seem to have a much bigger initial investment and are a bet on future benefits and growth, gotta be early in just in case it get bigger later
Cyberlive isn't as professional as PRISM or Phase Connect, but with 15-20% cut only, providing 3D model to their talent fast and allowing their talent to leave with model without even buying it out, they're almost too good to be true.

The growth is good, Lumi hard carried CyberLive early game despite a bunch of pretty annoying drama from their inexperience, and now Emma pulling numbers for them on YouTube.
In term of revenue Lumi is still carrying hard, Twitch is impossible to beat for money you make much, muuuch more from the same size fof fanbase because of how well they gamified sub gift and bits. For regular donations youtube 30% cut over streamlabs 0% cut is a bit annoying too.
Lumi being partner means much preferential cut on stuff like subs now. With the amount of subs Lumi is getting she's likely earning more than all the rest of cyberlive combined for now.
They're not really big on merch and merch is never that profitable unless you're big

In term of public image they had a rough start but I think it's getting better, Lumi once again is working pretty hard for networking and things like song Cover can be a great advertisement to a more casual audience.

tl;dr cyberlive is like other small corpos not profitable yet but their more hand free approach and being such a good deal for vtubers is definitely something that can be praised and is giving interesting results, they're not yet solidified but on a good path
also yeah cool managerlarp I know but I'm pretty confident on a few parts, no need to take my words for it of course

>>16488452
the modeller likely worked in 3D hentai and got hired full time that way.

>>16488631
Thanks Kevin very cool looking forward to the Slugma collab.

Also
>advertisement, work out deals, coves, video production, clipping/highlights
>things_Cover/Nijisanji_should_do_for_their_talents.txt

>>16488582
perhaps the blue is kinda purple though

>>16488631
2022 is gonna be a big year for cyberlive. They're gonna get 3D for everyone, more costumes, more higher quality members due to how much higher profile cyberlive is now, they might even be able to recruit indies too like Pandora due to their generous structure. Cyberlive's model encourages more creative streamers who are more passionate into doing their jobs.

I love Lumi like you wouldn't believe

>>16489230
but which gen are we getting the 9-hour endurance chuuba?

Golfbros won

>>16488631
>small vtubing corpos are more a rich hobbyist thing than an actual business model right now as the costs are insanely higher than any revenue they get
That depends. As someone else mentioned, Cyberlive has already broken even on their expenses. It's not THAT expensive at the end of the day since most people have their own hardware and the software they use to run is free, so no expenses wasted on software licenses either. It's all about how you set it up and where you want to go with it.
>For regular donations youtube 30% cut over streamlabs 0% cut is a bit annoying too.
People keep citing the 30% YT cut like Twitch doesn't take a 50% cut of every sub on their platform (as well as bits, but that's taken from you, not the streamer)
>Lumi being partner means much preferential cut on stuff like subs now.
Being partner does not mean you get a contract with Twitch. Loads of streamers with 20k viewer averages or more don't have contracts. And the contract is what you need to actually negotiate a better cut.

>>16488318
Can someone make a thread about this? I want to see anons seethe

>>16489703
Be the change you want to see

redpill me on cyberlive

if it matters my faves are

phase: uruka and lia
prism: luto and sara
tsunderia: kana (haven't watched her since she left though, idk)
niji: elira and millie
hololive: kronii

i have some indies i like but i'm afraid to mention them on /vt/ cuz of groomers

>>16489940
Try out everyone and see who you like.

>>16489940
Lumi is SEX and exudes an insane amount of charisma.
Chapipi is bratty like Luto
Menace is el creatividad like Millie
Inori is very zoomer like Elira and Lia

>>16489940
Lumi/Yuri/Menace/Emma are who I recommend for you. You should like at least one of them. I would say try all if you can though.

Lumi hand SEX

My wrist is also 2 inches wide...

Misaki LOVE

/satomisakien/

>the entire chat is trying to fuck Misaki now

>>16491433
I think Misaki may have all my ideal beliefs in a woman I need to make her pregnant.

Golfgroomers won...

She has no idea what's waiting for her.

>>16491851
>this lineup
This is less of a roster and more like a firing squad. I watched these people play. They're insane.

>>16491851
Kiamm....

>Menace liking them sonic kart posts on twitter

PANIK

>>16492613
Menace.....

>>16492551
Chapipi don't look...

>Misaki became a Golfgroomer within 7 minutes of watching loomee play

>"I can see why this is fun now"
>those giggles
Golfantibros...

We love golf /here/

>>16493075
Who the fuck is >we
Enjoy your fotm though

trucks
https://www.twitch.tv/utanopandora

>>16493240
All of CL WILL play golf

>>16493415
LETS GO

>>16489656
>Cyberlive has already broken even on their expenses
I'd be interested to hear more about this because with the incredibly tiny share they get from their talent that seems impossible to me really and by a large margin too I just don't see it

>>16493626
That's what Misaki said on their deep dive like a month or two ago. Misaki has been honest so far and I dont see any reason why she should lie. She also said that all the talents earn at least minimum wage too with Lumi being able to live off it.

>>16489656
>Being partner does not mean you get a contract with Twitch. Loads of streamers with 20k viewer averages or more don't have contracts. And the contract is what you need to actually negotiate a better cut.
Well I did say "Lumi being partner" not "being partner", she mentioned having negotiated a contract and it's a pretty common thing which often get you 70~80% share of your subs and similar things.

>>16491433
>>16491582
https://files.catbox.moe/l5106v.mp4

>>16489656
>People keep citing the 30% YT cut like Twitch doesn't take a 50% cut of every sub on their platform (as well as bits, but that's taken from you, not the streamer)
The thing is on Youtube there is a culture of using Superchats, while almost all donations on twitch directly go trough streamlabs with 0% cut
Subs do have a cut (though always lowered when people go partner with a contract), but have so much more incentive behind that it largely even out
But yeah on Youtube people are too used to the Hololive way of going trough Superchats and streamlabs link is often ignored

>>16493779
I see, I'll have to check the exact wording since it's easy to uses words like expenses or investement and overlook money spent just under a different category

>>16493779
you're forgetting that Lumi has oil barons dropping 2k dollars like nothing. They used to be kinda present among all cyberlvie girls but I'm not seeing it as often as I used to.

>>16493779
While this isn't a accurate cut of what they and Lumi get, Lumi has had thrown 7k at her in a day already. They have oil barons.

>>16492613
SRB2 Kart? That game's dope, I hope she plays it on stream. She could probably do a members only lobby whenever that opens up.

I'm drunk, but I enjoy her so much bros

I'm getting saved bros!
Misaki is now my oshi

>>16495403
>I'm drunk, but I enjoy her so much bros
I really should've gotten alcohol or weed for this stream.

>>16493811
That's a wild oversimplification. The biggest difference in monetization between Affiliate and Partner is twofold:
1. Affiliates get a 50/50 split on every subscription tier. Meanwhile Partners get 50/50 split at Tier 1, 60/40 split at Tier 2 and 70/30 split at Tier 3.
2. The second one I'm more hazy on, so take this with a grain of salt, but it goes something like this - there are some extra fees and taxes you pay before Twitch takes its 50% split. One of those fees goes from being paid by you (as an Affiliate) to being paid by Twitch (when you become Partner).
The point is: the 50/50 split for Tier 1 subs doesn't automatically change because you become Partner. It changes once you sign a contract with Twitch and renegotiate the terms.
However, there's no guarantee that Twitch will change the terms in your favor. They can just say no to you getting a larger share. But lets say they signed Lumi on and agreed to give her more favorable terms, I find it INCREDIBLY unlikely that Lumi managed to negotiate a 70/30 split as someone who just got partner and averages in the lower triple digits. And as far as I know 80/20 is unheard of, even among the largest creators. At best she might get 60/40.
Obviously though, only she knows what she gets so I could be completely wrong about all of this. I'm just going off of my streamer friend's experiences and what I've read online:
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/streamers-call-for-twitch-to-stop-taking-50-cut-of-subscriptions-1628824/
https://www.streamscheme.com/twitch-payout/
>>16493956
Maybe. That sounds more like a subjective opinion to me. But even if what you say about YT culture is true, you have to consider that enough people drop 50-100$ superchats to make the difference, while a Twitch sub is only worth 5 dollars (2.50-3.00$ after Twitch get their cut). It evens out in the end as far as I'm concerned.

https://twitter.com/AyaneHylo/status/1482472060706332685

This tweet would be wholesome if you didnt spend every 2nd tweet numberfagging. Also, you doth protest too much, no one said anything about it so idk why you brought it up

>>16495985
>t. hasn't read the thread

>>16495985
I love Hylo but she isn't fit to be corpo. She does whatever she wants even if it hurts her and others. She reads anons here and takes it too personally but still does the crap she does.

>>16495985
When is she numberfagging? I don't know why this thread has so much hate for her when she's trying her best. Hylo is a good streamer in her own way. Just because Hylo doesn't fit the mold of everyone else doesn't mean she's bad. She's having fun streaming and wanted to say it, so what?

>>16496117
ok hylo

>>16496117
Hi Hylo

>>16495985
read the thread nigga

>>16496149
>>16496139
Rent free. I can say good things about her because I like her.

we need a number general for startups

>>16496117
Even though you are clearly Hylo I will say this. She can be good, but she doesn't care about the quality of her content just doing what she wants. This is why her ccv is shit, and why she has done I think 10 streams since October

>>16496201
uh huh just stop self posting

>>16496238
>and why she has done I think 10 streams since October
To be fair that has nothing to do with her directly but with her IRL circumstances.

>>16496352
PANDA LOVE

>>16496238
I fully expect her to graduate soon. She isn't trying at all and closed herself off from everyone in her company. It is probably for the best given all of the known issues she has caused them before.

>>16496364
fuck off

>>16496238
She's cute and has a good time. I don't think CCV always matters when having fun but she is a corpo so she should care a little more for everyone else. I think IRL life got in the way which is why she couldn't stream along with her having health issues or something. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt but >corpo. Just because I defend someone doesn't mean I'm Hylo. I am really sick of seeing only negative things about her when I can see her having genuine fun and it makes me happy. I like her and I want to say good things about her! I want to see her having fun and enjoying streaming and I hope she sees this and it might make her smile.

Hylo is a whore and should graduate

>>16496419
Hylo...

>>16496456
As an ex-hylofag: This thread used to like her the most but she just stopped caring about being entertaining for her audience and shifted to doing what she wanted even if it is the laziest content possible like sleeping for almost an entire subathon and staying quiet most of the rest. She just stopped trying entirely, which is a shame since she can be entertaining. If she wasn't a part of CL I would never bother to watch her now but I keep hoping things improve...

>>16496456
Hylo's biggest problem is that she doesnt have the stream experience like the others and she hasnt found her niche that she's good at. She has good fundamentals like a lot of life experience, good stories and great singing skills but she has trouble leveraging it as a stream persona. The rest of gen 1 has already found their way in the type of streamers they are and gen 2 has everyone except Yoki and Inori are inexperienced but at least they're experimenting and forging their way in finding their niche in streaming. Hylo just streams the evil within does zatsudans that turns into singing the same songs until her throat hurts and then leaves. She's legitimately funny in group interactions but she seems to have closed herself off from the rest of cyberlive too and it seems like she's just so alone despite having 9 other people to stream with now.

>>16496614
I understand that. I've watched her at her high points and I think IRL stuff got to her or something. I know she can be entertaining and fun which is why I'll continue to support her and pushing her to do her best. Hylo is cute and capable of so many things and I'm hoping she can keep up with what she's doing.

>Cyberlive
>everyone is live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7IW3yMKPbo

Inori date starting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7IW3yMKPbo

>>16496693
Maybe there's a reason she closed herself off from the company. In my opinion Cyber is the same black company from when they start, they plagiarized VShojo, prism, and tsunderia, then management came here and blamed all of the Collab bans on Hylo. The only fuck up I've seen from Hylo was the ria tweet and after digging it sounds like the rewards were her idea but the date reward came from your precious lumi. Misaki is supposedly some 18 year old dating the CEO from yunity rrats so honestly it sounds more to me Hylo gave up because she hates her company and didn't want to make them any money.

>>16496906
>Misaki
>a day under 31

As a Hylofag I want to get her addicted to french kissing.

>>16497014
t.hylo

>>16496614
what is hylo good for aside from sounding like ironmouse?

Hylo's a fun person, but I would be lying if I said her game choices didn't make me less interested. Her taste in games doesn't really intersect with mine, which makes it harder for me to watch. But this is a subjective thing.

>>16496906
ogey rrat

>>16497192
I really liked her when she appeared on a lumi stream. She can be really funny sometimes, and, as other anon said she has crazy stories.
Idk maybe if she did more zatsu she could find her niche I think.

uh...