/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

Being a 2view is sad, but being a 3view is good. Being a 3view is the bare minimum of "success". If you can't acknowledge that you are a shitty numerofag

Winners of the day

#01 Chloe (Hololive) 39.2k
#02 Korone (Hololive) 48.1k
#03 Pekora (Hololive) 59.7k
#04 Nijisanji (Nijisanji) 14k
#05 Toya (Nijisanji) 19.7k
#06 Yashiro (Nijisanji) 20.6k
#07 Towa (Hololive) 37.5k
#08 Nijisanji (Nijisanji) 43.1k
#09 Gura (Hololive) 50.9k
#10 Gura (Hololive) 21.1k
#11 Pekora (Hololive) 37.3k
#12 Pekora (Hololive) 136.1k
#13 Shibuya Hal (Merise) 88.4k
#14 Subaru (Hololive) 34.6k

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>34,664: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,405: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,911: Rushia (Hololive)
>23,723: Laplus (Hololive)
>20,118: Aqua (Hololive)
>19,983: Fubuki (Hololive)
>19,341: Miko (Hololive)
>15,753: Shubuya Hal (merise)
>15,488: Kiara (Hololive)
>15,279: Shubuya Hal (merise)
>14,566: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,930: Aqua (Hololive)
>12,987: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,876: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,708: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,385: Ina (Hololive)
>11,111: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,870: Choco (Hololive)
>10,829: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,763: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,514: Suisei (Hololive)
>10,284: Lamy (Hololive)

>>16409098
plus
>10,909 Watame (Hololive)

>>16408937
reimu...

>>16408937
people will acknowledge you can make a living off 3 view but nobody cares here because this thread is about big numbers reimu

>>16409098
>no watame

>>16408937
you can barely make a living out of being a 3view

>>16409127
>>16409198
i vote to keep watame off these since she cursed our numbers after her abysmal 3d LIVE

>>16409254
rejected, these horns prove it

>>16409244
You can easily make a living off any size of audience as long as enough of them are paypigs

>>16409254
Stop trying to summon Watamage anon, we’ve suffered enough already

>>16409198
>>16409337
Goddamn euro sheepfuckers.

Anyone ever figured out how much they make from memberships?

>>16408937
I do remember hearing from a french streamer on YouTube that he could live off being a 3 views for several years, but he inclined since then and started averaging 3k.

How come no other agency has surpassed Holo EN at this point?

>>16409564
>>16410163
Rust streamers on Twitch went full time as 3views. This guy supports a family as a mid-3view.

Will we see 20k from Gura today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdczOAVJgsI

>>16410477
>4PM EST
No. Most of her viewers are still at work. Peak Gura time is 9-10PM EST after which she starts bleeding viewers.

>>16410477
Doubt it with a split POV

>>16410135
Looking at this the average number of members for a holo is around 10k, $4 per membership seems like a reasonable estimate since it costs a little less than $5 in yen, even less in Taiwan dollars and no doubt a few people will use ARS. So $40k gross per month, then let's assume they get the same 35% cut as with superchats, comes to 14k a month

>>16410172
Njisanji is the old empire trying to reclaim their past glory.
VShoujo is a loose federation of barbarians.
The replacement will be whichever one of the minnow agencies wins.

>>16410477
>split pov
>frame put 2 hrs before stream
>no tweet yet
>4pm
nah

>>16410571
You didn't understand this chart

>>16410648
All the smaller agencies have a lot of issues they need to solve. Money being a big one.

>>16410713
What did I misunderstand then oh wise one?

>>16410527
>>16410537
Do not underestimate Gura, she has a lot of subscribers in different time zones, euro bros will be glad to see the stream at a convenient time for them

whos the tranny in the op

>>16410912
euro bro here, her stream will start 2 hours before midnight for me and defenetly midnight for several other euro countries. with it being a friday most people will be tired from work so the only chance are neets or other no lifes

>>16410912
Last time Gura did a early MC stream in this timeslot, she couldn't even hit 15K. Even if Eurobros are dedicated, they cannot make up for their lack of numbers.

>>16411318
She also made less than 10% of her superchats from European currencies that stream so they're not exactly showing their supposed dedication either

>>16411522
As a brit, I really don't know why Euros are so stingy. I can only assume they use Vpns or something.

>Luxiem 100k celebration
ok wierd flex but go ahea-
>split pov pummel party
BUT WHY?!

>>16411654
I wonder how much Selen will lose when they overlap.

>>16409254
you asked for this.

>>16411654
management is retarded pls understand

>>16411654
>BUT WHY?!
$$$

>>16411750
THEY ONLY GET MONEY DURING SEA HOURS

>>16411614
free entertainment.

>>16411746
Management don't make schedules, they leave it to the streamers. They just approve if the game/content can be done or not

>>16411826
then they do barely nothing and the boys are the ones being retarded

>>16411788
>100k celebration
>Expect SCs
>Split POVs so only the best baiter wins
>>16411318
To be fair, that one WAS guerilla, and she also wasn't gonna read SCs anyways.

>>16411614
Cost of living is high here compared to the US so less spare cash to throw at anime girls, not sure about Japan

>>16411750
They always do these dumb split POVs even when they only make like 20 bucks in the stream, it makes them seem incredibly desparate

>>16411654
>BUT WHY?!
NijiEN isn't getting lucrative sponsorships like HoloEN and NijiEN also isn't even paying them a salary. They need every superchat they can get.

>>16411943
>CoL cope
yuropoors just have far, far less money than americans. our insane CoL areas like DC, New York, LA etc compensate for it with higher salaries
most lefty retards online do not understand this but anyone making six figures in the US would be insanely rich in most shithole yuropoor countries

So funny reading the last thread talking about Emma in that bait when Nijisanji has Mao, Chihiro and Amamiya alone that do 2k, 4k and 2k.

>>16412159
any idea when they will give wave 1 new outfits?

>>16411890
yes? it's plenty known that in nijisanji the managers barely do shit

>>16412249
No, because no one in here watches nijisanji
>>16412159
See the anon above who think only superchat exists and not streamlabs, voice packs and merch available and being sold. Or even the salary thing which we don't have any info if they have it or not as JP and EN are branches with different rules: in case, 3 times streaming per week while jp has no such thing anymore

when is Botan's 2nd outfit reveal? what numbers should I expect?

>>16408937
Nobody disputes that, Reimu... nobody. What we talk about in /#/ is degrees of success though, with the "made it" kind being at least a 1k CCV median and the "exemplars" being 10k+ CCV. Then there's the VOD crowd and the SC crowd which is even easier to guesstimate.

>>16412347
There are no way to guesstimate any sales metrics for Nijisanji. The only "data" that there is were the premium voice packs for Wave 1 and 2 in which only Elira/Pomu/Selen managed to sell 100 custom packs (sold out).
On the other hand you have some evidence that HoloEN is selling well due to them constantly selling out of merch.

Only 3 POV now, can Gura reach 20k then?

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1482088765057220608

>>16413551
no also ina hasnt put a frame yet.

On the other new selene possible 5k since she also has the bait title of 50,000 tournament on her stream.

>>16413656
nvm ina has a frame

Gura stream
Let's see the CCVID number
It's not her timeslot tho

Full Luziem collab. Totals at 20k or 25k?

>>16413980
It's not SEA hours, expect 15k tops

>>16413980
what were the MC collab numbers?

How? This is crazy even for marine

>>16413461
Which is exactly why the previous statement about SC is wrong if that wasnt a shitpost kek only the girls/boys and anycolor know how much units the voice packs (outside of custom) and merch are selling.

>>16414191
>YABE
>Coomer bait
It is obvious

>>16414315

none of her previous coomer bait shorts grow this fast tho

>>16414191
Coomer bait shorts
A very powerful combination

>>16414431
Episodes with a skirt are much more popular than others. Looks like coomers love it.
When did holofags become so pathetic?

Sucks Mumei deprived us of a chance to 4-way numberfag a collab. Pretty sure she would have got 3rd place but it would be interesting to see how close she was to Ina.

>>16414191
There was an interesting video by the Moistcritikal guy (the one Mori likes) showing how much you make off Youtube shorts. I guess he has a 2nd channel that just does shorts. He got like $24 for 6M views on one video, fully monetized. If people ask why more vtubers don't do shorts, that's likely why. If they do it's just as advertising or vanity, which to be fair is why most of them make music, and a short is a lot cheaper and easier than making a song.

>>16415031
Someone else linked this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvrbBz-8FBA earlier and apparently you can make money off of short videos if you make it at least 30 seconds long and make it 16:9 instead of the Shorts app format

>Gura
>8.4k waiting
>2.7k watching
EN still getting fucked by Susan hard

4.3k waiting for kaira
7.9k waiting for ina
8.6k waiting for gura

On Luxiem side
2.5k waiting for voxx
1.7k waiting for shu
1.4k waiting for luke
2.1k waiting fo ike

Recovery will probbaly take long like 10 min since it is an overlapp for HoloEN

>>16415185
I wonder how long it will take to recover the waiting room

>>16415167
That's interest. Looking through Pomu, Nina, Kiara, Ame channels none of their shorts really go over 30 seconds. Haachama's the only one I can think of that has short content that routinely goes over that.

>>16415231
I doubt wave 4 and Holo EN audience has much overlap.

ina is having internet issues so she is buffering a lot.
>>16415167
then you ar emaking clips rather than shorts. still longer format triumphs it

You can see that Gura really loves this park

>>16411654
What's wrong with a lot of POVs? It seems to me that nijisanji don't really care about the number of viewers and they don't try to collect the maximum numbers on everything, so a lot of pov is normal for them.

Ina's stream is shitting itself, we might be down to 2 POVs soon.

>>16415611
Niji don't make a ton of money (at least EN) so they don't really want to cede all the revenue from a collab to one person.

ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING

EN collab having terrible numbers right now, is CCVID back?

>>16415845
is a collab they barely make money UNLESS they bait for it

Is this minecraft collab sponsored? It was for shiraken's one was.

>>16416003
EN still gets a pretty bad waitng room culled but Gura is growing fast as always. She will probably reach 20k.
Even with CCVID she will stays big

>>16416003
I have reviewed the numbers and I believe EN is just reclining naturally

>>16415845
It is very rare for collabs to donate a lot of money, especially for nijis. Also in JP there were cases of collabs with a lot of POVs without monetization.

10.1k people watching 4 of 5 luxiem members. That isn't bad all things considered.

>>16416250
>CCVID
It's over bro.

>>16416270
Retard

>>16415231
Mysta didn't want bad numbers associated with his account so he decided not to stream his pov.

>>16416003
Unsure how it is anymore but I remember Gura collabs struggle to reach her usual numbers depending on the guests

>>16416003
>CCVID back
Multi pov debuff

Mysta doesn't stream since he doesn't want people to see his numbers when he isn't on during japan golden time?

16k

>>16416373
Not for EN they still gets culled a bit.
Just look at the waiting room.
They always get a susan culled debuff since dec 2020. This one is not cured

Looks quite normal, there is no CCVID

>>16416491
Ethyria sisters...

>nijien inclining
>holoen reclining

>>16416382
he already streamed with nina so he is doing a terrible job
>>16416382
vox is far lower than the first mc collab
>>16416524
kiara graph tells a diffenrt story

>>16416491

Selen went up to almost 6k but it went down a lot when she died in game. Now she is kinda stuck at 4k

>>16416494
CCVID happened in 2021/2022. You're just experiencing the old cull.

>13k after 20 minutes of a group collab
Where is the last samurai spammer now?

>>16416491
>the bro-est of them all is the most unpopular of his gen.
Why fujos are like this?

>>16416661
It's all right here too

>>16416250
>She will probably reach 20k.
In Euro hours? Good luck with that.

>>16416757
unpog

>>16416524
7+ minutes isnt normal waiting room recovery time, its still double what it was 2 months ago

>>16416718
Old cull didnt increase waiting time recovery to over 5 mins, it just reduced the total max it would hit.

expecting 20k gura right now is like expecting 10k mysta during burger hours

>>16416762
the waiting room is 3660 and taking 8min isnt normal

>>16416757
Bro vtubers don't sell

>>16416895
It's Kiara and mutli pov

>>16416865
COLD TURKEY

>>16416895
It’s pretty common for HoloEN. Unfortunate effect of the 2020 cull

You can actually tell that Nijisanji has reclined hard. Even the VSPO girls are mogging them so early on the morning.

>>16416895
if they are getting their waiting rooms back at all they aren't getting culled

>>16417007
thanks for the gura moot

>>16415231
HoloEN and Luxiem barely have overlap be it with jp or western fans. There's more nijisanji only fans in there

>>16416860
its also double the time that the jps take to beat waiting room

Looks like that little stream of your's got ruined.. Sorry Gurafags, your shark just SANK!
>rabbit wins again

>>16417035
What the fuck happened with the thumbnail?

>>16417021
You don't understand
EN always getting culled
JP doesn't

>>16416982
nah it was still 5min before decemebr.
whatever kind of filter they have there still fucks with the ENs on overlaps

>>16417021
retard.

>>16416522
tbf, Enna was 2k hours ago.

Nijibros... Selen is mogging all the boys....AND SHE IS LOSING THE TOURNAMENT TOO

>>16417213
SELEN COPING HARD ON POST CHAT LIKE IN ALL TOURNAMENTS LETS GOO (or how she lost a normal stream to finana, reimu and elira kek)

>>16417213
Tournament won count
Towa : 1
Matsuri : 1
Astel : 1
Selen : 0

>>16416982
No, average waiting room recovery was ~3-4 minutes before december, rarely it took 5 minutes. I cant think of a single instance it took over 6 minutes before december.

>>16417127
they posted the exact same milisecond as a gura image somewhere else on the board

>>16414191
>>16414431
>>16414735
this one was actually pretty funny.

NijiEN total: 17k (new record)
HoloEN total: 20.2k

>>16417332
They've been in way more tournaments and the JP scene is full of shitters, while Selen's lobby has some of the best players in the world

Holo's Minecraft collab numbers is quite low but Niji's numbers are absolutely horrendous. Still struggling to beat a casual VSPO collab.

>>16417629
Mysta leaving his company out to dry...

Luxiem collab without donations.

>>16417646
NijiSisters are asleep or eating breakfast and going about their day.

>>16417629
gura and selen carrying hard

>>16417640

>JP scene is full of shitters

it's ok selen, next time you got this

>>16417629
I mean Kiara has almost double the subs of all of them combined so they'd better get more viewers

>>16417629
>2 streams vs 7
shame ina couldnt stream her pov

>>16417744
Nobody donates during big collabs anyway. Also i think they can't monetize this game or something, i saw the niji thread freaking out cause luca forgot to turn off his

Gura 14k
Veibae 17k

>>16417834
>5mil subs vs 1 mil

Gura is Hololive's child-friendly hero; why is Minecraft + Didney worl not getting more viewers?

>>16417986
>gura's chat going 3x faster

>>16417646
its as if vspo currently has crcup boost much like nijisanji members also ahve

>>16417986
>shill stream still mogging holoEN

>>16417640
But selen, you also lost during jp tournament too

>>16418032
more like less than 500k subs vs two with over 2 million

>>16417646
Seaniggers are still asleep bros
They contribute so much that early branch was ID

>>16418076
euro hours. ina and gura had almost the same waiting room so ina probably would have as much as gura at this slot.

>>16418100
>>16417986
o think she got raided
>10k

>>16417986
>twitch drops buff
disregarded

>>16418097
Runa and Noah's numbers are actually higher outside CRCup. They were only getting sub 1.5k during the scrims earlier.

26.3k 2 pov

>>16418076
It's earlier than her usual timeslot

>>16417986
drops

>>16418307
so let me get this straight
you activate drops and you get 6k people just sitting there doing nothing?>>16418226

NijiEN could have been ahead of HoloEN total now but Mysta decided it was not the day with no POV

>>16418351
yes

>>16418307
it has a 4k youtube chat speed lol

>>16418363
if mysta streamed he would have taken its views from ike and shu

>>16418385
This is for Silvervale who currently has 9.1k viewers

>>16418351
It’s how Twitch incentives people to AFK in a stream

>>16418351
Yes, anytime a game with any interest does drop events you see insane viewer turnouts but chats slow as sin. Hell the first time twitch did twitchprime rewards for Fortnite when it was at its peak the top fortnite streamer at the time got 200k+ subs, like youtube member style subs that month. Legit cashed out 600k+ USD that event lmao

kek and I thought Ludwig's chat was slow

>>16418351
>you activate drops and you get 6k people just sitting there doing nothing?
Wait what? WTF is this bullshit?

Pay to play?

>>16417986
>Twitch drops
Get out of here

test

>>16418642
you watch X streamer playing X game for X amount of time and you receive X reward in that X game.

>>16417629
Millie... ;-(

Gura just got huge numbers

17.5k

>>16418351
twitch is full of this kind of bullshit to artificially boost their viewers. They do it to keep their directors/investors happy with the "big" numbers

>>16418642
Pretty much this, try to look at numbers of a league of legends stream with drops for example, shit will blow you away

Gura's numbers slowly increasing.

So how succesful is the VshojoxMonhun collab that Capcom asked them to do more while HoloEN just did one holokeks?

>>16418736
KEK the secret gamer of Myth

>>16418738
Wave 3....

>>16418706
>you watch X streamer playing X game for X amount of time and you receive X reward in that X game.
No, I don't get it.

Everything you wrote seems to be in english and I can parse it but I can't really grasp what you are saying.

People get internet tokens for idling on someone stream? That's the deal?
> be +1 CCV on someone's streamerm get widget on X game?
That sounds too retarded to be true, feels like one of those internet scams

>>16418846
You watch Veibae play Monster Hunter for an hour and you can redeem something ingame for a hammer or whatever. Probably like a code or a flag on a linked account.

>>16418846
>People get internet tokens for idling on someone stream? That's the deal?
You get loot or items or whatever it is for the game being streamed, and because Veibae and Silvervale are currently at the top of the Monster Hunter directory, most people who want the drops will just click on their streams since it's the first ones that show up

>>16418846
You watch Gura play Minecraft for 1 Hour, You will receive a custom minecraft steve skin for Minecraft.

replaced the X's with terms you might understand. Its something they run to "boost" games on the platform for marketing.

>>16409098
That Yashiro guy's design angers me for some reason, like he has an extremely punchable face. Which is unfair, because I've watched his streams and he's a funny guy.

>>16418965
Actually the way this one works is that you are essentially buying the DLC in question by gifting two subs, so people instead of idling for key drops, they are idling for gift subs.

>>16418965
>>16418991
>>16418993
That's too retarded to be real. Am I being rused?

What's in it for the company sponsoring said "drops"?

>>16418993
If Holos did stream on twitch they would constantly be getting boosted by stuff like this. They'd be the top for pretty much any game any time the streamed it, outside of game premiers where the truly massive streamers were all doing the same thing.

>>16418706
I've seen this gimmick. it's usually prevalent on games with lootboxes where they make you watch people opening lootboxes to gain points. basically lootbox cucking.

>>16419118
Make it seem like their game is popular in exchange for giving out pixels that cost them nothing.

>>16419069
Same but with Maimoto too for me.
Shame because they're cool dudes.

>>16419236
Maimoto and Yashiro have the same papa. i heard he's a yaoi artist too, which explains it.

>>16419140

>>16419118
Cheap promotion?

>>16419118
they get to say their game was on the top of twitch for that day

legal viewbot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zC_NTdVd6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUa0kbNZ7c4
https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/eka2no/can_anyone_explain_what_the_legal_viewbot_thing/
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/q0iwvi/new_world_full_of_viewbotting/

>>16419118
I'm not sure if it's the company who pays for the deal or Twitch, but the game that has the drops gets a boost in viewership making it look like the game is thriving which could attract new players

The twitch drop shit for this isnt even for watching, its for gifting subs. You're literally just paying for DLC.

>>16419332
yikes

>>16419459
>6k people waiting to be gifted random subs
twitch viewers are really something else.

>>16418738
where do you see that? even more specifying nijien?
>>16418842
tbf, millie only gets higher numbers in her creative streams/ASMR. Enna right now is reading superchats but earlier she was over 2k iirc

>>16419459
What does "giving subs" mean? I see people say this a lot. How is Twitch "sub" different from Youtube membership?

>>16419118
its literally marketing, they give out something small easy and cheap to boost their visibility on one of the biggest western streaming platforms. and streamers get to expose new people to their stream lets assume of 6000 AFKs that Veibae has even just 1% or .5% look at her stream and are interested in continued viewing she just gained 30-60 regulars. plus with #ad in her title im assuming Capcoms also shelling out solid money for this shit too.

>>16419587
You're gifting subs, literally paying to hand out free subs to random's watching.

>>16419526
that's how i got my sub for Pekora, to be fair.

it's actually insane how much of twitch is fake
add up twitch prime subs and gifted subs and you have like half of all twitch subs, in other words barely anyone wants to pay for content there and its all propped up by a small number of whales and a write off by amazon

>>16419645
Do you get a sub too? Like if you pay Veibae $5 what do you get for it?

>>16419526
theres some kind of engament points system that they can spend on other channels

>>16419459
So I take it that it was a “sponsor” through twitch bounty or something?
It sounds like MHR paid Twitch to set up a drops event, mind you in pretty ignorant on how twitch works. While Capcom went directly to Hololive to setup a sponsorship by contrast.

>>16419587
People can literally pay money to give out random subs/memberships on twitch. I drop 50 and 10 "free" subs are given to randos in chat, i think you can choose but most of the time people just bulk gift randos.

>>16419668
Ya didn't people find out the girl who holds the record for most active subs for a female have 80% gifted subs?
Her friends can just drop a $10k donation in the form of gifted subs and get her there faster.

>>16419332
Jesus Christ that is fucking bullshit. I can see how their talents are annoyed.

>>16419713
Your ego stroked a little

>>16419713
Bro its just what I said. You can buy yourself a sub, or you can gift people subs if you want. Its serves no purpose other than to hand over more money to the streamer and twitch, and I guess get drops in this case.

>>16419713
its just another kind of donation in the end. But one that the twitch streamers can brag about and be compared with others for having "more fans"

>>16419779
You can gift subs to your own channel, most streamers do it in the form of "If I lose at X, I'll gift 100 subs"

WHO WOULD WIN THIS HEAD TO HEAD FIGHT TO THE DEATH!?

>THE MOST POWERFUL GIRL FROM THE #1 JAPANESE VTUBER AGENCY, AIDED BY THE MOST POWERFUL CLIQUE OF ALL OF THE UNITED STATES STREAMING SCENE!?
>one humble girl trying to make ends meet with her mates

THE ANSWER WILL ANGER AND CONFUSE YOU!

Reading all this, I kinda understand why /#/ doesn't include Twitch in daily tallies. Maybe I'm just out of touch but I don't get how anyone could use twitch metrics with all this accounting level fudging of viewership numbers under the hood.

>>16420347

i like you a lot vspo poster, keep up the good work

>>16420129
What happens, Twitch gets half your money and you get the other half back?

>>16419205
>>16419321
>>16419330
>>16419340
>>16419610
kek, that's pretty much the good old

>enter the code RADIOJOCK3000 on slideshare and get a month free

is that it?

>>16420347
>6 hours os Apex stream
Jesas

>>16419587
Instead of donating money on Streamlabs some people like give 50% of the money to twitch but someone else watching will get a gifted subscription

>>16420489
kek, you don't know Choco APEX marathons then, do you?

>>16420445
bigger streamers capable of throwing fuck you levels of money around usually have the 70% cut deal from twitch. so they get more back than half.

>>16420389
The real reason is there are only 3 relevant vtubers on Twitch and no one here really watches them to bother to insist they get included, and the only people who ever bring them up are trolls, and that makes people even less inclined to permit their inclusion.

>>16420389
It’s just like any other industry, they’re fluffing up their numbers to make their investors happy at the big numbers.
“WE HAD OVER 1 MILLION WATCH OVERS ON DEBUT WEEKEND!” just don’t mention that the majority of it was bots and people afking for drops.

>>16420585
youtube on the other hand embraces the good old L graph

>>16420389
Yup, Twitch metrics are unreliable. Plus, you can't compare two different streaming websites with different ways of counting viewers. I mean, even if you tab out on Twitch, the view is still counted.

>>16420585
I imagine it's more that staff trying to impress the owners rather than investors to avoid getting buttfucked. I think Amazon are a bit beyond needing to puff crappy side projects like that to their investors.

>>16420347
why sleep when you can mog selen+otk instead

>>16420489
thats nothing.
Plenty have done 12h
Choco did 30 hours in a 48 hour period, and then did the same thing like 2 days later.

>>16420650
The difference you see versus Nijisanji/Hololive is that they have business relations with the companies sponsoring them while the Twitch streamers mostly rely on Twitch to feed them sponsors/bounties.

>>16420691
Yeah, Twitch's opposite approach to CCV compared to Youtube probably tempts a lot of chuubas to make the switch since they get to see an immediate increase in viewership which they think correlates to a bigger audience. The issue unfortunately is that this viewership numbers are basically the same numbers they were already getting but couldn't properly see thanks to Susan. So they mistake the sudden growth for a bigger audience pool but realize too late that there really isn't a bigger audience pool on twitch and now they're stuck on a platform where discoverability is shit. I still like twitch for their UI and how more user friendly everything is for viewers, but I really don't like the culture within the platform itself.

>>16421322
They make more money, that's all that matters. There's a reason not a single indie or small corpo vtuber has ever moved from Twitch to YT but a bunch have transition the other direction, even abandoning sizeable fanbases. If you're not already popular or part of a big brand Youtube seems to be a dead end.

>>16420585
Then we have youtube, who went out of their way to cull their numbers and fuck their streamers in the ass as much as possible.

>>16421467
This reasoning never made sense to me. Hololive wasn't big for a long time, now they are. The hard truth is only a select few ever really "make" it regardles of platform.

>>16420347
Selen is like a midget niji jp, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>16421467
Not gonna argue with that since it's kinda true. Only thing though is twitch still has a smaller ceiling (currrently) for vtubers than twitch has. Like, I doubt you're ever going to see 100k vtuber 3D live on twitch. It kinda irks me though since with more startups moving to twitch and having to play by their meta, the chances of another company turning into the next Hololive becomes 0.

>>16420489
You don't know chihiro I guess. She does over 10 hours of Apex almost daily

>>16421689
Hololive's rise is not something that will happen again. It takes too much luck. At least Nijisanji broke onto the scene with something new.

>>16421812
>Like, I doubt you're ever going to see 100k vtuber 3D live on twitch.
I dunno, if Miko, Nene, or Pekora put one on twitch I'm pretty sure it'd get to 100k pretty easily.

Is the ccvid back in the en side? Gura and Kiara number are weird. They seem to be stuck at 14k and 6k.

>>16420389
Between Twitch's own fuckery and >>16420562, you're far more likely to get good faith NND numberfagging than Twitch. Hell some anons are already talking about numberfagging Twitter spaces.

>>16421971
No, this is normal euro hours.

>>16421971
It never was fully cured, they are still getting 100% poll pariticpation in 5 minutes or less.

>>16421930
If the myth girls were to do their 3d debut on twitch, they would get 100k easy, hell some of them might get 200-250k but in return, a lot of people on there would be piss due to jealousy.

>>16421930
Gura seems like the obvious option. Myth has some ties with some popular Twitch streamers already.

>>16421971
im not sure it ever left

>>16421971
CCVid didn't go anywhere. They simply turned off the algorithm for Asians, because they turned out to be too sensitive when they saw reality.

>>16421971
It's not a particularly interesting stream/collab.

>>16421812
Hololive will forever dominate the youtube algorithm as more startups and indies move to twitch.

>>16421971
It's kinda odd that Gura's CCV isn't steadily increasing since we are approaching her usual hours. Looks like she got capped to prevent her from going 15k after she briefly passed it.

>>16422215
It's Kiara and Gura talking nonstop and the other two barely being present )and not streaming their POVs either).

>>16421971
Not Gura's usual time, also chumbuds don't watch collabs

>>16422102
Some people desperately wanting to leech off Gura and getting ignored can't really be counted as "ties" lmao.
What would happen is twitch fags open up their stream and live react to it, like last time.

A different kind of numbers, presented without comment.

So if ccvid is back for the en side then doesn’t that mean the council outfit reveal is fuck?

>>16422345
it only seems to manifest on overlaps to be honest

>>16422345
It's the same cull that was always there. Gura is outside of her primetime+Kiara debuff.
This is literally pretty much her numbers whenever she enters in this time slot.

>>16422345
Nah it's normal Gura Collab numbers, chumbuds want to watch Gura and Gura alone

>>16422344
From 2nd place to 18th place.
Was she the sandbag or was it the bruce guy?

>>16422091
>3D debut
No, that would never happen on Twitch and we don't know if they'll even get one. I don't think getting 100k on twitch would be too much of an accomplishment at this point for hololive, they've had tons of 100k streams as of late and had two that hit 99k.

>>16422499
Plenty of Gura viewers watch collabs. Kiara and Ina are not on the list of collab partners they seem to like though

>>16422344
Did Selen got 3rd?

>>16422545
It's not even much an accomplishment for EN. So yeah amazon shills coming out of nowhere with pointless shilling....AGAIN.
What the fuck even started this loop? Some random drops boosted stream?

Why would anyone expect big numbers from MC Disneyland mod?The novelty wore off already when shiraken did it. Anyone who saw shiraken saw how boring the mod was. I did say the same thing with pet bottle mc Disneyland collab back in dec.

not sure if ccvid or just plain kiara debuff field

>>16422273
Well, its still like 2 to 4 hours-ish to her usual times. So can still grow quite abit.

>>16422648
No, she's the 3rd member of the team that's currently in 18th place out of 20.

>>16422545
Not that its anything more than a pipe dream but a properly advertised Gura 3d Debut on twitch probably gets her 200k-250k easy. But that also would result in so much negative attention from the usual twitch crowd that it wouldn't be worth it. The last thing I want is a new batch of SJWs, leeches, dramawhores, and trendhoppers popping up. We already have lots of those as it is.

>>16422695
Imagine if HoloEN 3 debuted on twitch. Easy 120k. Probably endless seething. We already know Hololive members automatically get affiliate status when they make a twitch account even if they never stream once.

>>16422857
I guess she's in the "just happy to get invited" tier. Are these pro players rather than rando ecelebs?

as i said before i think CCVid is still present on EN mmeber specially during overlaps.
Rosemi and finana numebrs and waiting room recovery are really low

>>16422857
damn thats bad

>>16422978
This is a pro + influencer tournament.

>>16418642
fucking old man lol

>>16422915
I imagine weeks of top streamers bitching about anime girls being bigger than them. Then seethe about them refusing to collab outside of their agency.

>>16422936
pog

>>16422857
>>16423021
So much for NijiEN's former "ACE". If she can't even place respectively on her bread and butter game than what does she even have at this point? No wonder Selenigger turned gay and is sucking Mysta's dick so much.

>>16423113
I think it would be fun.

rosemi...

>>16423242
This board would be, yes. Maybe even reddit will have some fun.

>>16423330
>ccvid is not real

Makes you wonder why they won't just uncull EN like they did with JP.

>>16422915
Why would anyone care if Gura got 200k on something. Barely anyone cared she got 192k on youtube.

Also being an affiliate is a low bar.
>At least 500 total minutes broadcast in the last 30 days
>At least 7 unique broadcast days in the last 30 days
>An average of 3 concurrent viewers or more over the last 30 days
>At least 50 Followers
Still, most hololive twitch accounts don't mean this criteria. I don't think even Miko meets it since she only stream 5 times a month at best.

>>16423235
EN Towa

>>16423113
That's really what I'm worried about. Hololive on its own is already a self-sustaining ecosystem. And outside of Ollie whos akin to a revolving door when it comes to outside collabs, establishing proper connections with HoloJp and HoloEN would be more effort than what most twitch streamers would be willing to do (hence why I give rpr a lot of credit). So the more likely scenario is that they'd rather drown the competition in rrats.

>>16423477
i think it has to do with En channels set to japan as location and their users actually being form the west. So the filter of users is harder or rather slower.

>>16423527
Come on towa already have a gold trophy in tourny.

>>16423527
Towa is a diamond shitter not a "predator"
Her bread and butter is singing.

>>16423235
Latest update.
>>16423527
Say what you will about Towa, she wasn't tied for dead last.

>>16422344
Wait, Selen is Canadian?

>>16423113
>bitching about anime girls being bigger than them.
If we go by average CCV then they already are.

Hololive on Twitch would do nothing but make the number bigger, I don't think there will be any more seethe than usual. I mean who cares if there are just a few more 30k+ streams, which isn't that big of a deal on twitch, that can occasionally have 100k streams for events.

>>16423584
I keep reading this, but it makes no fucking sense to me. Youtube is a global platform, why would they knee cap any streamer that isn't from some mega country streaming exclusively in their countrie's language?
IE: Japanese, Russian

>>16423856
local server queues

>>16423856
streaming is realtively new for youtube.
So queue taking time dpeending on location is a high posibility
is speculation but would never know until one of the girls/boys change their location and see what it happens.

>>16423330
That's just her normal numbers. Pokemon is no longer hot right now.

>>16423235
>Gets mogged by males on her own branch
>Gets mogged by males on apex
Sooner or later she will have to start kneeling to the cock.

>>16424033
But then people like Ludwig and Valkyrae would 100% show cull signs, I guarantee they don't have full burger audiences or even close.

>>16423527
Towa didn't get in Hololive because of Apex. Her main strength is her singing.
Selen though is different. You remove Apex and she's basically nothing.

>>16424043

She more often than not get at least above 1k. not really normal for her

>>16424164
>But then people like Ludwig and Valkyrae would 100% show cull signs, I guarantee they don't have full burger audiences or even close.
im almost sure they do.unless they have something to proof they dont.

Damn Finana, people don't want to tune into your zatsu.

>11 foreigners
haha yeah Bae,Irys,Ina, Kronii and Sana would look soooo out of place in an east asian country

>>16423782
I think the main issue in the scenario is that twitch streamers wouldn't be able to leech from them like they normally would for anyone else. Twitch is basically one giant box-pushing machine by itself where everyone is kind of expected to leech from the guys on top of the food chain while the top guys are willing to let it happen. Hololive would basically be a gigantic bubble that none of them could enter which might rub some people the wrong way.

>>16423235
I've only seen one vid of selen when she was paired up with a pro player, and she's under no delusion that she's anything above average at the game from what I could tell.

>>16424330
>Twitch is basically one giant box-pushing machine by itself where everyone is kind of expected to leech from the guys on top of the food chain while the top guys are willing to let it happen.
Is the entirety of Twitch just lsf to you people?

>>16424292
Honestly, almost all of the NijiEN girls have weak zatsu games. Elira's probably their best and her zatsu game is only average.

>>16423584
Then Petra would be one of the top Niji ENs because her location isn't Japan, she obviously isn't though

>>16424577
petra gets better numebrs on asian afternoon than she does on burer time

>>16424336
It's her retarded fans that overhyped her which is something she even told people to stop doing.
>>16424522
Anon, most of the top streamers basically share a big percentage of their viewers with each other. Low to Mid tier streamers have a lot more unique watchers.

>>16424336
Be that as it may, they just died in 19th place in the last game with no kills, which puts them in dead last at 20th place.

>>16424522
The main twitch meta for the most part, aside from long streams, is reaction content. Whether its reacting to drama, fellow twitch streamers, youtube vids, etc. Leeching has always been a part of Twitch's DNA.

>>16424775
Jesas... from being hailed as a Pred to being dead fucking last.

>>16419140
>>16419301
No, they are not moving to Twitch unless youtube shits itself again
So fuck off

>>16424336
Selen is just overrated. She had a fight with Bon the indog about the game mechanics before and looking back, it's just all ego for her. She' didn't want to listen to him cause she's the bigger streamer. She got exposed time and time again on these tourneys.

Enough about apex.
I remember some people were keeping an eye on if Watame's really nice animated music video for My song was going to be able to get more views than FACT. As of yet it has not caught up.

>>16424775
kek

>>16424882
Well there is also a pro on her team. It's not all selens fault. I doubt the batman is very good either.

>>16425025
Watame just advertised it on the reddit an hour ago so it might get a bump.

>>16424330
I guess I can see that but does random medium sized numbers that have nothing to do with anyone really matter? It's not like they'll be all over the place. The average hololive stream in December was 17k, not that much by twitch standards.
>>16424946
I think the only way for hololive to consider using twitch is if youtube just cancels their streaming services. It will never, ever happen.

>>16425015
She was kind of right, but still should have just let the faggot play off-meta.

>>16424775
Kek, this might come in handy if her fans ever get uppity again but that might not happen again since manjisanji took control of EN now.

Welp Selen chocked in the tournament hard and is going to do a cope guerrila later. Will she keep the same numbers for that as for the tournament?

>>16425105
or if a big sponsor ask them to make a stream on twitch

>>16425025
mogged spark of joy tho

>>16425158
Doubt it. Sponsors seem to prefer Youtube as it offers way better analytics and visibility (Twitch vods are not permanent).
If anything they're forced to go to Twitch cause there's barely any "big" gaming streamers on Youtube.

>>16425153
no

>>16425153
She didn't choke. She got to Pred rank cause she got carried. I doubt she could even reach solo Master.
I thought she's one of those skilled laid back players like Bora and Botan but she's way worse.

>>16424775

>>16425105
17k already puts them in the upper 1% of twitch streamers. And that's with all the Youtube fuckery too. Imagine Hololive's box-pushing meta within twitch's environment. The raid feature alone would ensure almost every mid-tier holo a 10k average. I can't even imagine the obscene number Gura and Pekora (assuming she can succesfully migrate her JP audience over to twitch) would do there. They'd basically be the top female streamers on twitch overnight and you and I know that the simps in twitch management aint gonna allow a bunch of anime girls to overtake their 3d waifus.

>>16425380
She didn't get solo Masters last time either. She got carried by queuing with a pro and a pred.

>>16425407
Delusional.
Hololive and Nijis aren't going to move to Twitch so stop dreaming about it.

>>16422344
>brucewayner
kek, isnt that one of sodas faggot friends?

>>16425295
They really fumbled with irys. She has a lot going for her but they really fucked up her music choices and release frequency. Plus she looks like dog shit. Not really worth comparing.

TICK TOCK

>>16425407
17k is top 100 twitch streamers.
Pekora when she was getting around 40k is top 25 twitch streamer territory.
Now imagine without Youtube culls.

>>16425303
Japanese sponsors prefer YouTube because its still more popular than Twitch locally, but in the west, it's about the same for both platforms.
We've heard twitch streamers get ridiculous sponsorship offers ($50k+) to do single streams.
YouTube does have the advantage of permanence tho, like you said.

So is the EN still under CCVID?
I know Cumbuds don't watch Collab and it's 5 hours before her timeslot, but isn't this low for Gura?

>>16425380
>>16425415
Okay, so what the fuck does she even offer at this point?
>Weak zatsu game
>Sucks at every non-apex game
>Isn't even exceptional at APEX either
Are dragoons just suffering from Sunk cost fallacy?

>>16425598
They like her laugh and banter.

>>16425586
It's on the low end, but if you look at her likes, it's just people not tuning in.
Usually Gura gets thousands more likes than her peak.
Pretty shit hour for NA on a weekday so whatever audience they got was mostly Euro.

>>16425598
Why don't you ask this in their thread if you want a real answer, instead of asking a bunch of people looking for every reason to shit on Selen?

>>16425487
That's the thing anon. I DON'T WANT THEM TO. Twitch is a shit platform and despite the possibilty of higher numbers, I'd rather they stream on fucking NND than deal with the faggotry that's prevalent over there.

>>16425598
She gets the best numbers out of any nijien girl. That's good enough. But she is just a midget in the grand scheme of things.

>>16425487
NTA but it's just a conversation piece centered around the numbers of that streaming platform.
It was already shown earlier just how bullshit their numbers are from the drops streams as an example.

>>16425598
Indog Hana is one of the top English speaking vtubers. When a proper competition was introduced, she wilted under pressure. That's just how it is.
EN with the introduction of males especially those who play competitive would kill all the poser female gamers.

>>16425710
Because they're not gonna answer objectively? It'd be like trying to give proper criticism in r/hololive.

>>16425586
Unscheduled stream
People on twitter thought it's only Kiara POV, which means debuff
Gura only tweeted the frame an hour earlier
Also Sea Monkeys are still asleep

>>16425718

>>16425850
>objective criticism
>this thread
KEK DYRBI?

>>16425710
Sorry bro but this is not your care bear thread.

>>16425139
made it easier for you

>>16425945
Retard, he's asking why people watch Selen.
What's the point of asking that in a thread where people don't watch Selen?

>>16425994
Well, we do have selen niggers here. Maybe they could share their expert opinion about her.

>>16425979
Do we have stats for player kill count and damage output?

IRyS finally passed Luna after all this time.

>>16422344
Is that a tranny?

I noticed a weird thing. There are 4 Vtubers in Hololive who have virtually all of their videos at above 200k VOD views. Gura, Pekora, Marine
...And Rushia. Who has averages and peaks nowhere near the other 3, especially once we crop out "noise" like events, reveals, special occasions, major draws, clips, etc.
And honestly her "virtual floor" almost seems a little higher than Marine and maybe only a bit below Pekora herself. Gura is of course higher, probably closer go 300k(but maybe it's more upper 200ks)

Is Rushia actually a dark horse candidate for being one of the Holos among the top-end for strongest viewership?
I thought she had gachikoi but it's not like she has dozens of thousands of them. How and why do her VOD views stay above such a high virtual floor so well?

>>16426229
sasuga gold gen

>>16421786
Selen is a mid NijiJP(2-5k). High NijiJP. Gets 5-15k consistently. Ony kuzuha with apex buff consistently pass 20k.

>>16426229
its probably the crazy gfe. Those crazy fans who miss the live make sure to watch the vod. She also has a crazy amount of members

>>16426069
you can probably add it up but the team got 2 kills in the first round only and i don't think selen had any kills or assists.

>>16426229
GFE is very powerful, some fans will even rewatch vods.

>>16425586
>I know Cumbuds don't watch Collab

I don't like collab with Kiara.
She literally shouts over and even on Gura's POV, only Kiara is heard 80% of the time.
Replace Kiara with someone else and everything would be much better.

>>16426229
At
19,951/25,050
her collab with Suisei got the best numbers out of any Holo today, she's pretty high tier by herself.

>>16426229
Rushia's CCV got fucked up by CCVID, but around that point, her numbers have likely been very good and on the same level as the 3 you mentioned.
She had a 44k waiting room peak during the Christmas karaoke that she never reached.
Those collabs with Laplus and Iroha were likely 30k+ and all her other streams are likely 15-20k for 3 hours, which is easily 200k.

>There are 4 Vtubers in Hololive who have virtually all of their videos at above 200k VOD views.
I think you can add Subaru and Miko to that list too. The only fail to reach 200k if their stream is like 1-2 hours long.
Honestly, maybe even Laplus.
Her 1 hour karaoke last night almost has 300k views already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ulIGAYxxP4

>>16425407
>upper 1%
Upper 0.1%

I know they'd get some decent numbers but probably not enough to cause seething or do a single thing to twitch culture. People will just ignore them and wonder why there are the occasional 6 figure stream.

>>16420389
the scary part is that NFT bro in charge of yt gaming have absolutely no vision for the platform and they're planning to just copy twitch this year with shit like gifted subs or raids that will fuck up with Vtuber culture.

>>16426229
Gachikois looping her vods

>>16426747
if they wanted to loop something it would be her covers anon

>>16426572
>The only fail to reach 200k if their stream is like 1-2 hours long.
So..not like Pekora, Gura and Marine.

>>16426559
Poor Kiara

>>16426778
They loop those too of course
In all their devices
GFE scary

>>16426595
While there are the occasional random huge JP or KR streams on Twitch and no one really cares, this only holds true for stuff that's mainly unknown in the West. Like Nijisanji. Hololive's a different matter, they've had enough exposure that there will be eventual seething and mockery on a level worse than Narukami.

>>16426229
Just to add to the 200k+ VOD average, Gura has a whopping total of 5 VODs under 300k.
>A sponsored watchalong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMBUJnHSPts
>Two short debuff game vods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeTy-o1q5dU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztBs-2I6AMw
>A collab with Ina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULl8ST69598
>A recent Mario kart VOD that will pass 300k soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJCcx-LTHfA
(And today's VOD but that one isn't even an hour old)
That's it. out of 300 something videos.

>>16426197
that's just alelu, he does shit like that every cr cup.

>>16425586
I didn't get Gura's notification, only Kiara's
Was she shadowbanned?

>>16426995
>A recent Mario kart VOD that will pass 300k soon
I'm still surprised this collab did so poorly.
Gura x Fauna is a good pairing and it was the last MK practice before the tournament.
Wasn't expecting 30k and CCVID was going on, but Gura and Fauna's VOD for this collab are severely behind their other VODs.

But otherwise, yeah Gura's VOD consistency is ridiculous.

>>16426356
Most of the times selen does between 2k-3k. Only in special occasions she goes above. She's not even top anymore, all luxiem is above her.

>>16426995
Why do Cumbuds hate other girls?

>>16418738
they caught up to HoloEN huh? 17.5k is like HoloEN without Gura in their primetime

>>16427110
MK vods do pretty poorly in general for some reason, unless it's a tourney.

>>16427279
Tryhard mariokart is a little boring to watch outside of races that matter (tourneys) because the streamer can't really talk much when focusing. You see that in the referenced Fauna/Gura collab where Gura can't really pay any attention to Fauna or Chat at all for 90% of it because she was focusing hard on racing

>>16427269
>17.5k is like HoloEN without Gura in their primetime
On a regular day, I think Irys, Fauna and Mumei got ~16k together.
This is a buff day for NijiEN tho, 4 celebration streams and Selen with tournament buff.

>>16427110
Yeah if only she could actually make the actual videos consistently
HaHaHaHaHaHaHa

>>16426953
No one seethes at holo numbers now so why would they over some random events?

>>16427152
The other girls are too old for them.

>>16427269
Reclining…. Meanwhile jp >>16409098

>>16426572
Some people mentioned it that the Relay looked kind of low, but looking back now it's crazy to think that they should have been at least 25% higher considering the CCVID ratio at the time.

>>16427654
midget hours...

>>16427269
kinda dissapointing numbers for a celebration stream though.....

>>16427110
There is some youtube fuckery going on, even one of her Minecraft streams got low numbers.

>>16427654
Finana ;-(

>>16427688
I think her numbers today were bad regardless, her likes were lower than you would expect too not just CCV.

>>16427269
I'm pretty sure that a full activity day involving most/all of HoloEN is a 25k+ day even without Gura around. And that's without celebrations of any kind. Normally you see 3-4 active at a time with a collective audience of 15k+ on most days.

Today's superchats

>>16427776
fujos strong

>>16426229
Rushia very much owns the 18:00 time slot and she gets her high peaks in that period. She then transitions into the 2-4hour superchat reading and zatsu, which since it's during prime time a lot of people still tune in, even for a bit.
It makes sense that she gets a of vod views.
But also, her ASMRS have been gaining huge momentum these last few months.

Then again, Rushia is very popular with NA and EU too. She gets high peaks even during the late night random insomnia streams.

>>16427776

idk what happened at Ike stream but I kneel

>>16427688
Nah this time slot is bad for Gura, she even lost to ina in a collab in this time slot.

>>16427776
>2 nijien
>0 holoen

>>16427776
Risu... or does she count for tomorrow?

>$473

nvm, she might not make the list.

>>16427933
She got a $1000 donation in streamlabs.
In her case playboard will never be accurate.

Why are baits low quality now? Do shitposters really disappear and it's just a bunch of ESL and SEA tourist?

Alright I think it's safe to say that Luxiem is a success at least in NijiEN terms, but can HolostarsEN do the same? Do you guys think they can be at the same level of Luxiem or are they gonna flop harder than HomoJP?

>>16427776
what happened to ike?

>>16427776
Oga,wtf

>>16427776
Okay from checking the VOD Vox and Luca made a "free akasupa" joke and nearly fucking broke the Niji EN SC record... jesus wept manjisanji I kneel

>>16428003
usually it would be buildup for NA baiting at this hour, but i guess they're out for the weekend.

The Twitch watcher at least has been real quite.

>>16425139
kek
I still remember that selen schizo flaming Botan.

>>16428049
4 males doing fujo shit.

>>16428066
Yeah, it's decent money for his birthday countdown.

Should still make another 2k tomorrow.

>>16428012
Cover doesnt need HolostarEN,
they need streamers.