/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>16287354
Did they pay for react?

>>16287354
Embarrassing.

>>16287354
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1260460536
>Nijisanji asked multiple people to react. (40:50)
kek they're asking streamers that had done or react to HoloEN contents before

>asked nicely
Codeword for paid

>>16287573
>>16287586
You do what you need to do when you lack someone to go viral consistently. It's not like they managed to grab a Gura-tier talent for the first 3 waves. Asking react-types to react to NijisanjiEN and giving them official perms (doesn't sound like anything else like payment was given, just reaching out and asking).

>>16287612
Could be, could be, but if that were the case that's more sponsored than not, and while yes you can hide it, it's risky to not disclose those sorts of deals.
We know NijiEN hired clippers, please don't conflate the two though, we don't need rrats when facts are good enough.

>>16287677
>hey bro, we give you permission to react to our talents, be grateful we're not asking you to pay us for it

>>16282209
You holobronies are completely in a bubble if you think this kind of thing only happens in hololive, holy shit. It happens in literally every agency. You only think like that because you mainly or straight up only pay attention to hololive.

>>16287736
>we dont need rrats when facts are good enough
>implying that this place cares about facts and not the (you)'s that are being farmed with shitty rrats

>>16287764
>>16287612
>>16287573
embarrassing is engaging in tribalism like you faggots. not even shitpost, you guys are pathetic.

>>16287354
sasuga organic-growthsanji

>>16287811
fuck off riku, you'll never be as cool a yagoo

>>16287811
Anon be honest with me, after that post of niji asking people to react to some of thier stuff, did you really expected that there wouldnt be any kind of tribalistic posts taking jabs at it?

You guys just found out that Niji pays people to react to their stuff? That’s old news.

>>16287977
Sure, but it's always good to see new proof of it so people never forget about it.

>>16287773
So like any other vtuber bubble then? Stop projecting nijikek

>>16287612
Here, timestamped link so you don't have to scroll across more of this leech's VOD.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1260460536?t=0h40m50s

>>16287811
>Seething on cooldown about Hololive
>Defending Twitch react andys
Jesas, this is a new low for you.

>>16287354
>>16288043
It just fucking hurts knowing that normalfags and ironic weebs are the target audience for ENs. There will never be an EN Kenmochi or Utako.

>>16288004
I guess. I don’t really think it’s a big deal. There’s worse thing that company has done

>>16287811
>Imagine asking twitch streamers to reach to your content for views
HoloEN wouldn't do that. More embarrassing that a manager or a nijiEN member asked streamers for that.

https://youtu.be/PZqCn3W3OFo

1:03. 3 months before wave 1.

so were there any other Song/Cover milestone reached today aside from Live again's 10M and Spiral tone's 1M?

>>16288326
stellar stellar 5M

So nijiEN managers support react to content? Fucking thats kinda of pathetic if they pay them.

>>16288442
They payed for clippers.

>Nijisanji is now kowtowing to the most powerful zatsudan content.
When will Hololive follow?

>>16288442
you say that it's pathetic, but is a good marketing strat depending on who they ask for reacting to nijiEN's content

>>16288043
Guys a midget jesus. just pay xqc or sykkuno

Honest question on the monetization side of things, apologies if it's been talked about to death before now:

We know at least the floor of how much each HoloJP and EN girl has to be making per month and just how high those figures are even before things like sponsorships, merch, memberships, etc. etc. but how does that track for HoloID and the Holostars? Are either of those groups making a reasonable living wage solely from streaming, especially the latter?

What about the same for the NijiEN girls and NijiEN guys outside of the heaviest hitters of those groups?

>>16288481
>They paid for clippers to work for them and put the results on the NijiEN channel
Let's be clearz that's fine as there isn't anything wrong with that by itself, but combined with the 'asking streamers to react to their content' definitely comes off across as a tad desperate (understandably so, they really lacked anyone able to go viral or grab a big audience before, but they appear to have managed to get someone now with Mysta).

>>16288508
watching master chef on stream? never. gordon ramsey is usually in the chat whenever there's cooking stream.

>>16288514
Did the strat worked?

>>16288521
They were trying to leech from holo reactors.

>not forceful in acquiring fans
>pay people to react to them

Kek

>>16288521
I don't think they have enough funds to pay xQc. Sykkuno maybe or they should've payed VShojo to get a large EN audience.

>>16288581
There are other react content on Youtube that's not pirated Masterchef. Viewer suggested videos would be pretty good for numbers and content as long as it's checked by mods.

https://youtube.com/c/Rizulix

Oh fucking hell, Rizulox is hitting the algo jackpot these says.

>>16288529
I don't remember whether it's oga or shion, but they went from being unable to pay rent at first to going on premium food binging tours. Seems like stars gradually became profitable for the livers

>>16288650
i swear to god i've seen this format a billion times

>>16288600
>niji
>paying to whorejo
kek. Impossible but imagine if something like that happened, niji leeching off whorejo

>>16288575
That's not desperate, that's literally something normal to be done. THis isn't paid anyway.
It's tiring to see you guys invent any excuse whatsoever to put nijisanji down, dear god.

>>16288737
Niji won't care as long as numbers and money keep rolling, they're literally paying to react to their content. Besides, most of the VShoujo fans are VTuber watchers so it's a near guarantee they'll check out 2434. That's a much better investment that a midget like nagzz rumao.

predictions? pretty solid lineup for Towa at 8pm JST

>>16288658
That's the thing though, it feels like a lot of the stories you hear from the Holostars are basically going from borderline homeless to not, so I'm not sure if that says much beyond something like Holostars meeting the bare minimum threshold for a livable wage compared to the girls basically becoming millionaires over the course of their careers. I've always wondered just how far off the males or other language branches end up in comparison.

Why can't NijiEN just ask female streamers to react to their NijiEN guys? Or shouldn't they go for content creators with the most female fans, because NijiEN guys are growing at least better than NijiEN females?

>>16288829
15K-20K if there's only one POV, 10K-15K if it's multiple.

>>16288829
one pov?

>>16288857
Why you don't kill yourself and stop talking about nijisanji as if you know anything?

>>16288650
>nearly 1M views just with the last 3 videos
jesas

>>16288121
I dunno man, Gura scooped up the unironic lolicon weebs.

Unless you mean Nijisanji EN only.

>>16288823
Why can't they just go straight to Hololove instead of Vshojo?

>>16288857
That'd be just recycling viewers, they need someone out of Niji to attract watchers.

>>16288791
>that's not desperate
Sad state of nijikeks really. Being prideful like they used to be during the /jp/ days was far better than these mindbroken fags

>>16288857
They won't need to once Luxiem starts collabing with them

>>16288823
Speaking of neggz, he might do a discovers on a niji liver soon. We can compare the views on it.

>>16288650
based sapling, he will be responsible for her success

Is NijiEN's males being propped up largely by SEA women a cope or is there some actual reality to it?

>>16288907
It's weird how much bigger Gura is compared to Nyanners when they are almost the same. Even Nyanners is still using her old account but the numbers are still below Gura.

>>16288121
>There will never be an EN Kenmochi or Utako.
There can't ever be a lolicon/shotacon of any kind as blatant as those two in the west. That's literally career suicide.

>>16288907
the lolicon that never admits to be a lolicon and don't do shit. That faggot talking about utako and kenmochi is also just a clipper watcher.

>>16288914
Small indie company, please understand. Besides, I doubt Fagoo would agree ESPECIALLY that tranny Omega.

>>16288121
A EN Kenmochi or Utako would be cancelled immediately.
It's honestly amazing what you can get away with as a JP vtuber vs a EN vtuber.

>>16288942
Looks like a recipe for disaster

I thought Nijisanji doesn't like forced growth? Did Riku lie to me?

>>16288920
I don't give a shit about your dreamy vtuber war, piece of shit. Wake up to the reality.

>>16288842
They seem profitable enough if someone like Miyabi was able to move out of the family home and buy a super pc. Aruran and Roberu also moved to better places and got new furniture last year. Astel discussed his plans to move this year so he'd be closer to the studio. Izuru plans to full-time Holostars when he's done with university.

>>16288872
for now only Botan and Towa have a waiting room

Can a number expert explain how this works

>>16288970
Who knows, if those guys can get to collab with OTV or maybe DreamSMP, whose audience consists of a lot of girls, I can see big inclone.

>>16288998
Yeah, Gura is smart

>>16289023
Elaborate

>>16288529
At the minimum, all of gen2 HoloID make much more than mmthe average wage for ID. Ollie, thanks to her heavy EN pandering and whatnot, from SC ALONE (not including streamlabs) AFTER cover+Yt cuts, makes more than a doctor does in Indonesia. Anya likely makes as much as a doctor does, and Reine...
Look, for Reine this is something she does as leisure, given what people know of how rich her roommate is. I don't know about Iofi and Risu, but Moona makes enough to take care of her family+relatives, so it is, no doubt, not a small amount for ID.

>>16288995
Because Gura is much better at handling drama than Nyanners.

When Gura PL got tired of her old content, she just ghosted the fans. She never said anything negative about them.

>>16288823
I am talking more about the collective suicide of nijifag's self-esteem on the board rather than nijien getting improved numbers. But even for numbers, I wonder how successful it would be. Shoujo managed to build a sort of insular audience already, can't see then shifting their attention to nijien in long term, unless they subordinate themselves to shoujo's with constant collabs on shoujo's channels

>>16289000
>>16289041
and this thread has the audacity to say they "only care about numbers" lmao
amazing considering how this thread is just a holo fanboy tribalist shit and those comments, even more the ones obviously with only information on surface level and in a bubble, shows how it really is. Pathetic state.

>>16289070
Subs have no correlation with CCV.
Matsuri has 1.2 mil subs and one of the lowest CCV in Hololive.
Also, learn what a debuff game is, newfag.

>>16289085
Speaking of chuubas and their salaries, doesn't this mean that Kson is earning more than mid Holos without Cover taking a ridiculous amount?

>>16289074
>Male vtuber who pander females
>Collab with female streamer
I don't think it's a good idea.

>>16288998
>never admit to being lolicon
True.
>doesn't do shit.
Bro. Gura literally just talked about shark reproduction in her outfit reveal. Not to mention the many times he baited the foot fetishists.

Shark knows what's she doing.

>>16289070
Jops

>>16289118
My god you really are pathetic thinking on some cultural war going on. Nijisanji fans dont give a shit about that, only about watching the vtubers they like.

>>16289123
Where do you think you are?

>>16289070
Ratna came back from a long break so return buff.
IRyS is playing a debuff game.
As for why Kronii is such a fucking failure to only pull ~6k on a mildly buff game, I'm afraid not even philosophers know the answer to that.

>>16289123
Why do nijifags love using the word "tribal" so much to shitpost?

>>16289153
From Sc, yes.

With how successful Niji wave 4 is, will will see a male Gura killer next wave? These guys are matching top tier Holo already.

>>16289155
Kanae, Kuzuha, Kagami, Fuwa, Akina, Kenmochi, Mayuzumi....etc
Nijimales with large female fanbases collab with females all the time and nothing happens.
They even get shipped most of the time.

>>16289157
whoa, she's almost a finana talking about hentai, sex toys and the like! what the fuck is this example? how is that even related to lolicon and why do you think this is some unique shit when even nijien talk about worse shit than that?

>>16288649
The problem isn't the content, but Japanese law itself. They basically need explicit permission from all relevant sources to the material being displayed on screen or they will have "the sisterhood" come bearing down on them.

>>16289204
>mildly debuff game
>part three of a debuff DLC for a debuff game she's already also done multiple parts of

The likes difference is impressive.

>>16289223
No, Unless he has a cunny model.

>>16289203
the worst thread in the board where I have to skim over a lot of bullshit to see numbers?

>>16287773
It doesn't really feel the same otherwise. Like one time when I follow one of Niji liver's career, it felt so scripted. It's like watching clips of Nijisanji made by a paid clipper, so soulless.

>>16289118
Fair point, that was one of the things I realized when I posted 2434 should've payed Vshoujo. Another thing obstacle I noticed is that they have different platforms, Twitchfags stay in Twitch (see Mixer).

>>16289240
SUSAANNN I RATHER HAVE CCVID THAN THE 2021 PATCH

>>16289157
You're fucking retarded if you think anything Gura says is remotely in the same realm as Utako, Veibae or even Finana.

Also, sex talk =/= having an attraction to underaged, smol boys.

>>16289227
Well, I just hope that will happen. I just fear that Luxiem pander to the wrong viewers like female Kpopfags

>>16289227
Holofags are afraid of the new rising meta. Please excuse them ShinobiHost.

>>16289227
Yup, take a look at this chart with the ones witht he most female fanbase in JP.

>>16289204
>Frostburg
>a buff game
Has there been anyone else besides her that's ever pulled double digits playing it on-stream?

Imagine NijiEN gen with a full BTS aesthetics, how buff would it be?

>>16289282
are you retarded anon?

>>16289234
>>16289274
I never said Gura was on their level though.

I just said that Gura has a hold on the unironic lolicon weeb EOPs. And that she DOES do lewd content. Just not on their level.

Am I wrong? I'd say that's one of Gura's strength as a streamer. Knowing how to toe the line with that kind of content without coming off as crude.

>>16289326
I don't think anyone else even played the game.

>>16289262
This is the numbers thread, we side with the ones with bigger numbers and shit on the lower ones. Stop seething nijinigger, the same happens when nijisanji gets more ccv than hololive, it's just that it barely happens. If you can't handle it, maybe you should go back to your echo chamber thread or discord server

>>16289282
>ShinobiHost
Kek I'm not that faggot.
Dude gets his panties in a bunch every time tribalfagging happens.
He might be in this thread tho.

>>16289195
>Nijisanji fans dont give a shit about that, only about watching the vtubers they like
kek. うけるわ.
>you really are pathetic thinking on some cultural war going on
according to nijikeks when they need something to shit on holos, yes

>>16289326
Botan got 7k once when she played it more than a year ago.
Kronii is on her 7th Frostpunk stream at this point lmao.

>>16289046
>that's not desperate
>wake up to reality

>>16289411
I pity you guys so much.

>>16289223
The cutest part of this whole deal is how quickly holobronies changed their tune on a male EN branch after seeing Luxiem pulling numbers.

The best part is you can see Cover's panic move in opening permanent auditions right after Luxiem debuts lmao.

>>16288857
Even better, why don't they just pay Holos to shill for them. It already costs money to get Nijis from other branches to collab with them, might as well divert some of it to get collabs with the Holos, right?

>>16289473
wdym? EOPs were asking for Holostars EN since forever.

>>16289123
Nijibro stop whining about tribalism it just makes it worse. Learn to ignore it

>>16289473
What?

>>16289448
And Kronii's first Frostpunk stream pulled in pretty good numbers from what I remember, but for both of them it's probably new game buff rather than the game itself being a buff game after literal months of playing it on and off.

At least from watching it in her first couple, I know it's not a game I enjoy watching more than once. And now she's on the DLC for it.

>>16289380
it's not 2021 anymore anon
>>16289373
oh like this thread that acts as a bubble for tribalfagotry i see

>>16289227
https://youtu.be/nnBfhaPZ7Ws

>>16289373
Where the fuck do you niggers come from?
/#/ is pretty good most of the day and then there's these sudden periods of extreme tribalfagging that just shits up the thread.
If you want to shit on Nijisanji, make a bait post in the catalog about how much they suck.
Post some numbers or get the fuck out man.

>>16288960
By far most of the clips aren't even Fauna though. I wouldn't expect much out of it for her unless he makes some sort of attempt to push her more.

>>16289492
he's talking about here retard.

>>16289541
exactly. this thread is most of the times now just a excuse for tribalfags instead of analysis of numbers.

>>16289541

>>16289541
Dude, it's dead hours. What do you want us to talk about?

>>16289070
Debuff game cope.

Holostars EN, if done with the same approach as Holostars JP, would be an absolute failure. NijiEN was smart in taking the angle they did for their guys and I doubt HoloEN will emulate it.

>>16289473
This might be the first time where Hololive and Cover is behind the curve, or taking the 2nd mover position in the global market. I'm so used to Hololive being ahead every single time. But to be honest, Niji struck gold this time.

If NijiEN pushes their advantage a lot more, we can see NijiEN being on equal playing field with both Hololive and NijiJP. And maybe even surpass HoloEN as well. Remember that NijiEN males still only has SEA market, if NA women find out about them, it's over.

>>16288970
I don't know about SEA in particular, but Mysta said most of his viewers came from Japan. Judging by the difference in his Asia hours numbers and US / EU hours numbers (the latter being significantly lower than the former), I think it's fair to assume that his viewers are mainly Asian (in other words, JP, SEA, KR, and all that). Looking at his schedule, he probably knows that too and is focusing on that market first

>>16289541
Pekora is going to blow everyone out of numberfagging later in the day.
The only thing worth talking about now is how Mysta is mogging the shit out of ENtubers (outside of Twitch)

>>16289468
>assuming that they are in some sort of morally superior position that lets them pity others
>while calling the nijien attempts at begging for crumbs from holos not desperate
One wonders at a nijinigger's ability to doublethink. Maybe that's a cultivated talent when someone's addicted to dick sucking.

>>16288970
Mysta stated his demo is 75/25 f/m and heavy in JP. Given his streaming times, who else that can speak EN could be watching besides SEA? It's not EU(2-4pm), it's probably not NA(6-9am), so that really leaves SEA as the other group of viewers beside JP that would watch him at that time. Also as he streams later into the night for Sea/JP he bleeds viewers.

>>16289514
>>16289541
>t-tribalism!
It's always nijiniggers crying when I see this word in a post

>>16289667
the difference between you and me is that I don't think about hololive or nijisanji as some vtuber culture war. kill yourself since your brain is a waste already.

>>16289636
Nijisanji had an id, en, and a kr branch before cover. Hololive was always second in entering the market.

Is it the first time Cover is behind Anykara outside of Japan?

>>16289541
What the fuck are you on about, man? /#/ has always been about the big numbers. Go numberfag your midgets back to your containment thread.

>>16289601
>nijisanji
>not written in japanese
holy mother of bait.

I miss the cull...

>>16289636
>if NA women find out about them, it's over.
The question is how?

>>16289691

>>16289688
I've never watched a Nijisanji stream in my life and I never will and you niggers are just as annoying.
Do the world and kill yourself and take your beloved Nijisanji with you.

>>16289636
>If NijiEN pushes their advantage a lot more, we can see NijiEN being on equal playing field with both Hololive and NijiJP. And maybe even surpass HoloEN as well.
Anytime now

>>16289724
Cover has always been playing second fiddle to Anykara

>>16289721
But NijiID and KR get peanuts in viewership. Hololive is even more well known in Korea than NijiKR witnout a KR beanch.

>>16289153
For superchats, yes. But again... that's just superchats. We don't know just how much more a holo makes after all payouts are accounted for, but it should be significantly more lucrative than just being a solo act even for mid tier Holos (10k CCV / 100k VOD).

Lots of nijimems tweeting about a brief membership suspension, seems like there's some fuckery going on behind the scenes.

>>16289721
All the branches began first than hololive, including VirtuaReal.
>>16289724
No. JP 2018, VR and ID 2019, KR and IN 2020, EN in 2021

One retard here keeps saying that nijiEN would finally surpass HoloEN kek

I haven't seen a single stream where NijiEN passes 20k normally excluding debuts. Trying to pass HoloEN is a childish dream, they have to get at least 1 50k stream first.

>>16289746
Uh that's easy. YT, clips, vods and outside collabs, especially if they can get on with OTV. Corpse and Sykkuno blew up from there.

>>16289776
It seems like a YouTube bug. Members get an email that says it was canceled and then a couple minutes later it’s fixed

>niji fans don't engage in cultural war

How fucking naive. Stop staying in your own bubble that is the nijicord or twitter only. May be go out and lurk different language chuuba communities like ptt, baha5, facebook, 5ch or even fucking bilibili or nga forums. I am not defending holofans here because they are the same too. Just the other day, there are nijifans spamming lilith's roommate stream. Trying to claim nijifans as pure white angels that never did anything is pure delusional.

>>16289776
Another Youtube fuckery?

>>16289731
>/#/ has always been about the big numbers
Newfag, lurk more before you post.
/#/ regulars are talking.

>>16288970
Vox's fanbase is almost entirely sea or Chinese. Same deal with mystia though it seems like hes picked up a sizable nip fanbase too

>>16289767
No one want imbeciles like you so thank you for doing that favor.
>>16289770
Except for EN where they had to do it for hololive but otherwise yes, Cover mostly followed Nijisanji. Be it with Gamers, ID, CN branches being opened, Live2D, etc

>>16289770
And yet no one watches NijiID and KR.

>>16289636
2 more weeks?

>>16289814
I never said anything about nijifans, fucking imbecile, I only was talking about me as an individual.

>>16289772
NTA but yeah, that's the point. Hololive managed to gain a stronger following in those areas than Niji despite Niji having first mover advantage. I only disagree with the claim that Nijisanji technically having an EN branch before Hololive (which was just their IN branch rebranded) is enough to claim first mover. Hololive was the first of the two to put serious effort into appealing to the EN market.

>>16289668
It's amusing watching him cannibalize what is presumably NijiJP viewers. That being said, having a heavy JP base isn't good for him. With the language barrier they'll move on eventually.

>>16289807
>keeps saying that nijiEN would finally surpass HoloEN
They already have though?
Luxiem already mogs 95% of the HoloEN

>>16289636
Holostar EN would've been a failure like Holostar JP even if they debuted before NijiEN. The holo brand attracts people that only want to watch anime girls, not anime boys, otherwise holostars would've been popular
Nijis have the advantage that their brand targets non unicorn fags and fujos, so the seafujos that already know nijisanji, coupled with nip fujos with white fever, would go check the ManjiEN and help with the algorithm

>>16289841
Cover was also late for the EN branch, but like Yagoo said, it doesn't matter as long as you've got a good product.

>>16289834
Since NijiEN males are popular with Chinese, any chance they will get feature in those popular Chinese gacha?

>>16289851
And yet those branches continue to exist with the first for 2 years and the second for 1 year, with both having more than enough people to form a fandom and be sustainable.

>>16289851
Some NijiIDs do okay despite their low sub counts. Bon and Mika in particular.

>>16289636
>If NijiEN pushes their advantage a lot more, we can see NijiEN being on equal playing field with both Hololive and NijiJP. And maybe even surpass HoloEN as well. Remember that NijiEN males still only has SEA market, if NA women find out about them, it's over.
You're making me laugh, anon.

>>16289767
Sure thing bud, now get out

>>16289880
>Luxiem is 5 Mystas

>>16289880
lol

>>16289691
it's not about you and me, you self centered smoothbrained faggot. It's about the the fanbase here as a whole.
>Nijisanji fans dont give a shit about that, only about watching the vtubers they like.
And maybe you should stop trying to argue for the whole fanbase as a whole in the first place if you just end up projecting yourself into your arguments

>>16289822
Stop trying to fit in, nigger. Go back to your containment thread already.

>>16289772
>>16289787
First mover disadvantage

>>16289636
>if NA women find out about them, it's over.
This is root of the problem and the basis for why many ITT assume that males aren't successful as VTubers in the west, which so far has held water given that Mystas demographics are largely Asians in Asia.

>Luxiem already mogs 95% of the HoloEN

>>16289880
yeah and holoen mogs 95% of holojp too because of gura right

>>16288481
Will ad revenue still go to anykara if you're employed by them? Looking at >>16288650, this guy is probably making bank with those views lmao I'd rather go independent and clip holos with some niji

>>16289636
I don't get it, how does getting 10k+ ccv in streams TWICE put them anywhere near Holo's level? Is this supposed to be impressive?

>>16289601
What did he mean by this.

>>16289888
NijiIN doesn't count anyway since it wasn't a real attempt to the western market but an attempt to save the branch.

Doing Frostpunk was a pretty good numbers decision, game that's almost never seen and she played off of it with the haha cruel dictator gag, but doing the DLC for it is an awful numbers decision by her and it was obvious, the game is not nearly fun or exciting enough to watch for more than three streams. She should wrap it up already and pick something else instead of wasting her high numbers potential.

>>16289928
>newfag that's only in the thread for Pekora's 3D live
Keep crying about midget numbers and we'll keep posting them, faggot

>>16289085
> Moona makes enough to take care of her family+relatives
Not only that she spend a lot of it on music production, a bit for taxes and still have enough for charity

>>16289880
Incredible retard.

>>16289867
>Nijisanji fans dont give a shit about that, only about watching the vtubers they like.
If this not you, maybe you shouldn't have responded in the first place

>>16289878
They’re not cannibalizing each other. Mysta probably got some from viewers from his JP senpai, but a large portion of them are new. That’s why he wasn’t hit as badly by the cull like Kanae of Kuzuha

>>16289901
Nijisanji literally had to pay clippers who clip for their rivals just to sustain their relevancy.

>>16289913
Bobon, Mika, Siska and a few others do only a few hundreds below Iofi while she has more than 400k more than them tbf.

>>16289880
Retard.

>>16289947
They were hired for clips for the main channel, please get the info correct before you run off to shitpost. Obviously clips on the main channel aren't going to be making money for clippers since thwy were likely paid a flat rate.

>>16289962
Or--get this--she can stream the games she enjoys for a fairly decent audience by just about any streamer's standards and have fun while still making money.

>>16289988
>but a large portion of them are new.
citation required

>>16289880
Will he mog them 6 months from now? That's the real question. People here love to jump on conclusions based on very little data.

>>16289913
It's a miracle they haven't left for HoloID or Maha5. Maybe they're just dumb just like the rest of their fandom.

>>16290008
Yeah that’s what I was thinking about. She has a lot of dead subs and hako-oshis who only show up for events

>>16289948
It's a coep

>>16289901
>form a fandom
>and be sustainable
What worldline do you live in anon?

>>16289962
at some point you cant keep doing buff content you need to play shit you like for your own sake
>>16289878
they arent canabilizing views BUT the question is for how long they can keep their Jp viewers or sea ones. They arent even a month old so the jps they have could easily abandon them later.

>>16290028
It should be fairly obvious just by looking at the (lack of) overlap of his chat with others and decent immunity to CCVID.

>>16289988
That's a rather sound take. I want to see how much though, we need Kanae/Kuzuha to stream when Mysta/Vox do.

>>16289809
Will the viewers watch youtube stream though? I feel twitch viewers are hard to convert into youtube stream viewers

>>16289880
Congrats on the (you)s.
Wound up holofags really can't help themselves jfc.
Come the fuck on guys.

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas

For those not tracking, Ludwig ended his stream at 18.6K likes with a max CCV of 21.3K after asking people watching to hit like an doing a bunch of polls

>>16290007
Yeah, and that's mostly jp content, smartass, not ID and KR. Most ID fanbase are ID anyway, much more than HoloID, with most of their vtubers speaking mainly indonesian.

>>16290028
No no he's got a point. If the Luxiem audience did have as much overlap with NijiJP as a few anons claim that likely would have shown itself during CCVID. But Luxiem was isolated to the point where the cull was barely noticeable. I think there's a argument to be made that these SEA/JP viewers might be new

Guys, I just realized, with the Masterchef/React Meta in Twitch effectively getting killed, Twitch streamers will now be looking for new (and safe to stream) content to react to.

And with Anykara being okay with reacting to Niji clips (and being aggressive to even go to content creators and tell them to react to said clips), this might send a wave of change to Twitch wherein ALL of the react streamers will be reacting to Nijisanji clips.
This might be the thing that would catapult Nijisanji into the EN public consciousness

>>16290010
That's why I asked kek. so being an independent holo clipper will probably pay you more due to ad rev

>>16290074
I'm bored and the thread is absolute shit anyways. I'd rather we burn through this one and have a fresh one by the time Pekora's bday live starts.

>>16289968
And I'll keep on shitting on them to remind you niggers where you belong in the hierarchy.

>>16289473
you guys are acting like Stars EN is a reaction to Luxiem when only Mysta is doing well.

they were most probably holding off till the 1st Stars Fes was done.

>>16290082
>18k likes for a 7 hour stream
That's actually weak as fuck.
Irys and Kronii are at 14k and 12k respectively on 5 hour and 4 hour streams and both didn't even do that well today in terms of numbers.

>>16290045
It's not a miracle, they like nijisanji and being part of it. NijiID is a branch that has almost zero chance of ever disappearing, even more with how knit they are with each other.

Why do people always act like Luxiem is composed of like 5 Mysta’s?

>>16290067
I also think that Mysta and Vox wouldn’t attract the kind of viewers that Kanae and Kuzuha have. Their content is more similar to someone like Kaida Haru or Kenmochi Touya (not exactly similar in personality but close enough)

>>16290103
Lol, no. They would react to the most popular clips(Holo)

>>16289473
Nice headcanon bro, how many fanfics do you write?

>>16290144
Why do people act like Myth is 5 Guras? Why do people act like Council is 5 Sanas? Why do people act like Gen5 is 5 Aloes?

>>16290079
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
Never seen that one.

>>16290130
> only Mysta is doing well
Please kill yourself if you arent doing a shitpost.

>>16290144
I mean, it was obviously bait, but I'm hungry so GIMME THAT HOOK.

>>16290128
>/#/ posts numbers
>"STOP POSTING ABOUT MIDGETS"
>*everyone ignores the retard and keeps posting numbers*
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP POSTING MIDGETS"
Every time.

>>16290103
KEK

>>16289948
Nijiniggers have this weird thing going on where they take something that's "exceptional for nijien" and then forget about the "for nijien" bit, it's how we got the Selennigger convinced that nijien is going to take over hololive any day now because she managed to get 5k that one time and we're seeing it play out here with Mystia. This is also why we don't do relative gradings here because once again nijiniggers ruin everything

>>16289668
I wonder if they will end up similar to Eden Gumi males, who from what I remember, did far better than NijiEN4, but went down to flopped levels after a few months.

>>16290163
They won't be reacting to Holo clips though because they'll be afraid of getting copyright struck vs Niji's blanket statement that streamers are allowed and encouraged to react to clips.

>>16290171
You never watched nijisanji then, because many vtubers have been saying that for years in all branches. Hada talked about "nijisanji family" many times last year, or KR family. Same for ID and now EN. JP also a few times.

>>16290137
As i said LSF crowd fucking hate LSF streamer

>>16290103
They will react Holo or Vshojo first
Even if they react to Niji, it could be a negative react rather than a positive react just like some twitch streamers do with Hololive

>>16290178
Newfag, go back to your containment thread already.

>>16289070
Power of JP + SEA audience against EN. This is how you realize (if you haven't) how small EN market still is compared to Asian. Among HoloEN, probably only Gura can consistently beat Mysta

>>16290195
>ause they'll be afraid of getting copyright struck vs Niji's blanket statement that streamers
a retard

>>16290195
Cover doesn't care. They get free ads out of it.

>>16290190
> flopped levels
> most of them are getting 6k-4k while the worse ones are over 1k most of the times
this thread killed your brains for numbers jesas.

>>16287354
HOLY FUCK!!

This is proof that Nijisanji is paying react channels to shill their stuff. I always thought it was weird that all the react channels that were primarily Hololive all of a sudden started randomly mixing Nijishitty into their content. What a low down dirty bunch of bastards. Fuck them.

>>16290154
It'd be good to confirm for sure, but I suspect you're right.
>>16290137
Holofags are generally high-engaagement viewers in EN. I know I like Holostreams way more than other shit I normally watch.

>>16289668
I don't get why people write off EU because it's 2-4 pm for them. Girls that watch Luxiem are all young, in school or uni. If it's remote because of covid then watching something is not a problem and if it's not remote they could still watch on their phones during boring lessons or something. I actually noticed quite a few people who said they're studying at the moment in Luxiem chats.

>>16290218
Ironmouse does Nijisanji and Hololive reacts almost weekly since 2020, what the fuck are you even talking about. How do you think she discovered Belmond, Aruran and Bobon?

>>16290205
Calling corporation a "family" is the most corpo shit ever.

>>16290229
Ironic, newfag.
Now get out of MY containment thread.

>>16290195
>Twitch streamer afraid to copyright
So why anime react meta was big?

>>16290103
xQc already went back to reacting to masterchef
And no the big streamers who don't care about vtubers won't start reacting to something as niche on Twitch as nijisanji, while the ones who were already reacting to them (nagzz & co for instance) will keep doing it

>>16290239
kek imagine having this rage over this shit, dear god.
>>16290282
Anycolor is the company, smar

>>16290186
Don't forget taking the best performing member of a branch and then assuming that it's the baseline for the entire branch. I swear nijifags would probably be better regarded around these parts if they didn't keep resorting to pulling these slight of hand tricks so often

>>16290279
I thought you are talking about big twitch streamers like xQc or Mizkif

>>16290239
They're trying to compete the only way they know how: by wasting investors' money.

>Nijisanji management rebrands NijiIN to NijiEN as a response to Cover announcing recruitment for HoloEN.
>"FIRST MOVER TO THE EN MARKET NIJIBANZAI AH AH AH AH AH"
Who are these retards?

>>16290282
I mean, we all only watch corpo chuubas here so you're right.

JWU, did I miss anything

>>16290276
becasue EU is allergic to englis/japanese content.
And 2-4pm isnt a good time even for school

>>16290236
Don't make up numbers, dumbfuck. 4-6k my ass, more like 1-3k, this isnt hard to check.

>>16290282
Anycolor is the company smartass... Nijisanji much like hololive is meant to be the group in itself, the culture around it and all of that shit. You don't love cover, you love hololive, that's the point.

>>16290195
>they'll be afraid of getting copyright struck
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>16290284
Like I said, stop trying to fit in. Your midgets will never be welcomed here.

>>16290205
Do you think we are newfags? We have been around long enough to hear all the stories of Nijisanji's clique behavior and black company tactics. Family my ass.

>>16290316
>Alphabet is a company, not Google! Google is a family!
This is how you come across.

Has anyone seen a NijiEN clip with over 500k views? How rare are they?

>>16290349
Pls show me the numbers for all edengumi then anon.

>>16290316
Damage control harder bro, gotta earn that pay somehow right?
>>16290336
And now you understand why nijiniggers get shat on here

>>16290276
That's fair, I just doubt it's a very big amount EU in general doesn't seem to be too big into vtubers (could be different with Mysta/Vox), but we'd need hard analytics displayed with regional breakdown to know for sure.

>>16290358
Retard, we've been talking about midgets all day since there were no big streams today.
Stop exposing how much of a newfag you are, it's embarrassing.

>>16290336
Don't forget the name change

>>16290330
They only react to what's on LSF / their personal subreddits and their youtube recommendations
When there's not a meta like masterchef, that is

>>16290284
This isn't a containment thread nigger, in fact I think I'll make a thread out there just to prove it.

>>16289473
when you thought nijicope cant get more pathetic they surprise you like this.
they truly are the basket that keeps on giving

>>16290350
>>16290316
Don't be disingenuous anons, we all know in what sense "niji family" was used by most of the nijis

>>16290349
Edengumi is more like 1-6k desu.
Leos/Lauren/Axia and Oliver/Lain are very different.
The top end (Leos) is mid-tier Niji.

>>16289948
To be fair, not trying to tribalism in any mean, but getting 10k+ CCV on a NORMAL stream outside of debuff month is great. There might be up and down, but there isn't any reason to believe that his numbers would drop significantly in the future yet unless you are saying that cooking simulator is a super buffed game or something (which isn't true looking at previous streams of other EN VTubers).
I wouldn't say "them" since most of NijiEN males are doing average at best, but at least Mysta is pulling decent numbers right now. Isn't it only Gura among HoloEN can consistently pull 10k+ on normal stream? If a male (which is a largely unexplored field in EN VTuber scene) can rival HoloEN's domination, it is impressive.

>>16290360
What Im aware is that you guys don't watch nijisanji and it shows when I just cited examples of their own vtubers talking about it as such and you ignoring, because you dont know anything outside of what you read in here. You don't watch or have any connection whatsoever, so it's just like that.
>>16290369
I guess hololive isn't a family then anon. Hololive and Nijisanji are brands that are formed by vtubers, they aren't corporations. Cover and Anycolor are, and no one simps for them.

>2020/2/3
>38 hours and 25 minutes of ARK streams
>2022/1/11
>62 hours and 17 minutes of ARK streams
ARK is inclining

>>16290393
I'm curious how big is Mysta outside JP prime time actually

>>16290082
>>16290137
His views after stream end was 231K.
Streamed for 5 hours from 3PM PST to 8PM PST.
What do chuubas usually get for a 5 hour 20K CCV stream?

>>16290375
You're acting like Holo clips get 500k consistently too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMWFup71VVA
900k views

>>16290205
Family? Didn't one of the KR talents just mimicked Roa and bullied out Yuya?

>>16290414
>This isn't a containment thread
KEK DYBRI?

>>16290195
>getting copyright striked
>from a clip channel
Anon, are you feeling alright?

>>16290350
Nijisanji has hundreds of chuubas, most of which don't interact or give a fuck about each other. It's way too bloated to be confused for a family.

If Nijifags want to NijiEN to get more popular, at least aim at having a lot of clips a d clippers first. Hololive literally has over 10-20k clips with various languages. Nijisanji has to aim to attract them first before going for the top position internatinally.

>>16290443
Mysta is a dude, and for a female heavy audience that he has, cooking sim as a Brit? That's pretty buff. Different demographics means what a uff and what's not can change.

>>16290447
Yeah, because somebody who works for the company certainly doesn't have any incentive to defend said company at risk of termination or withheld pay.......oh wait, Nijishitty doesn't play their employees.

On the other hand the sources that I have talking about how shitty Nijisanji is are all unbias third party sources.

>>16290404
Rebrand means that, absolute retard.
>>16290439
Yes, I'm sure you know the context anon. Im sure you watch streams and know that Ban Hada was talking about "protecting her KR family" because of antis or how "the nijisanji family is a very warm and welcoming family" while talking about them playing and talking offline on discord with all branches. Thats the problem with yall, you only go to 5ch and shit and read stuff in there thinking it means you know shit but you dont know. And unlike with hololive where you folks have emotional attachment, you dont have in here, so it always comes as ignorant to what actually happens.

>>16290466
Kek, 7 months ago. I can show you multiple >500k clips of Hololive in a span of 1 week.

>>16290474
It really isn't if the content being talked about here is talked about just about everywhere else on the board. That different is that this place is much less moderated than the others (which makes me regret to taking a shot at janny apps).

>>16290485
Not knowing 95% of the member does sound like most family.

>>16290564
>has anyone even seen a 500k views Nijiclip
>lol doesn't count because I say so
Nice to see that the Holofaggots here haven't changed

>>16290393
I clicked Mysta's stream once just in time to see him doing a poll where were his viewers from. I don't remember exact numbers and I'm not sure if there were any screenshots here, but Europe portion wasn't as small as people tend to believe. Of course Asia still got the most votes though.

Nijifags are the most delusional and obnoxious fanbase I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with in all my years of life.

>>16290195
Haha retard.
>afraid of getting copyright struck
>ignoring the loads of vtuber reactors that already exist that don't get strikes
>reacting to niji in the first place when react andys go for whatever gets good viewership

>>16290103
or they'd react to Hololive instead cause it can also get them clicks, it's just fair game but it'd be stupid for Anykara to not pump the money and try to get some big hitters in for them

>>16290485
I'm literally just talking about what the own vtubers talk about their own branches and the agency in general. If you watched streams, you would know that.
>>16290551
I'm sure your "third parties sources" are very unbiased anon. Even more when your interest is so genuine and innocent.

>>16290563
It doesn't help that shitposters with NO allegiance can get away with saying the most inane shit and not get corrected on it, whereas if you tried to do the same for a Holomem at least one person here will have watched the stream or seen the clips that instantly disproves that nonsense.
It's kind of the consequence of this board being borne primarily out of the need to split hlg out from JP because a bunch of /was/ tags started shit.

>>16290466
>NijiEN
>Gundou
Anon….

>>16290563
Talking about the name Anycolor not en/Id.

>>16290596
Yeah, family of negroes.

>>16290563
Calm down faggot, I was pointing the same thing as you regarding the usage of "family" as opposed to the anons trying to make it about semantics

>>16290615
Say the guy posting in a thread where you faggots think 1k is bad number. Just kill yourselves already holobronies, you are a disease, even more you types from 4chan.

>>16290642
I am completely unbias. I am not a Nijisanji hater and have never held any ill will towards them. It just so happens that they are a horrible company that abuses their talents and the talents themselves are awful entertainers who suck at their jobs. Everything about it is awful.

>>16290466
Sounds like cope, but Holo clips don't get 500k that often because so many clip channels clip the same shit and the views get spread out.
I've seen 3 separate clips of Towa reacting to Mori swearing during the MK tournament with 250k+ views each.

Here are a few of the most viewed HoloJP clips from 1 channel (HoloEN clips are cheating):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5To0jXm8H7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJrKcR4GGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx9n6fvOF_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjDw0PdQzBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWM_SctX_ng

>>16290668
Nijiniggers

Are there really diehard Niji fans or most are just trolls?

>>16290691
Reimu...

>>16290711
>holoEn clips are cheating
Hey! Numbers are numbers, don't you be doing them dirty like that.

>>16290680
sorry then. Interpreted it wrongly.
>>16290694
I'm sure you are unbiased with what you just said. You have to think im some retard to not see this.

>>16288995
It's not that weird, Nyanners publicly shat on her fanbase and spent five long years being an sjw trying to preach everyone who liked lolis into feeling guilty while chasing the VA dream and only tried to bury it when pandering to lolicons is profitable again. Any advantage she has gained by clinging on to the nyanners name is wiped out by all the baggage that comes with it.

>>16290455
He hasn't streamed outside of late JP / SEA / Asia hours that much recently, but going by Vrabi:
>3:00AM JST 09 Jan - It takes two with Enna (split PoV) - 3,130
>8:00AM JST 06 Jan - Zatsudan - 2,660
>3:00AM JST 06 Jan - Escape Similator (Collab with Finana) - 2,981
>4:00AM JST 04 Jan - Luxiem MC Collab - 4,771
>07:39AM JST 01 Jan - ASMR + NY Countdown - 4,866
>07:02AM JST 27 Dec - SC reading - 2,205
He did decent in NijiEN standard, but nowhere near his JST performance. He seems to be just putting collabs or zatsudan at that timeslot, though, so that might bring his numbers down a bit

>>16290691
This is the numbers thread, anon. Not /Nijisanji/ nor /indies/ thread. Go post your midgets somewhere else.

>>16290691
Yeah, HoloCHADS are the disease when Nijisanji is the one that shits out chuubas like the screaming shits while spreading to regions that don't even want or watch them (KR, IN, ID, EN). Sounds like Nijishitty are the disease. I am going to be so happy when that piece of shit company goes bankrupt.

>>16290743
Somebody has to lower the playing field for Niji a bit. Or else Nijifags are going to cry.

>>16290748
You are way overestimating how many people care about that shit.

>>16290756
Isn't female viewers like zatsudan streams more than gaming streams or is it just my assumption?

>>16290711
What's better for the algorithm, 3 250k+ clips or 1 500k clip? Real question.

>>16290474
Containment (x) don't exist without mod support. The only true containment (x) in this place are ponies, trying to apply it to anything else is just a polite fiction at best or retards seething that people post things that they don't like.

>>16290729

>zero ARK stream scheduled
Hololive is healing...

>>16290195
Heck if anything reacting to nijisanji clips is more risky because they have gone after clippers before because their own chuubas wanted to host clips on their channel

>>16290816
For Hololive, both should work because they have both. For Niji, I don't know since they get a translated clip once every full moon after Kuzuha is done singing King.

>>16290103
Have you niggers forgotten that Twitchfags stay in Twitch? Any VTuber content, be it Niji, Holo or VShojo would only be beneficial to Twitch VTubers. Sure, some might trickle to the former two, but VShojo gets the most of it.

I just want say that if in a few hours Lui get all time low numbers is not because of the CCVid...is because she is retarded enough to schedule an english only stream when most westies are just waking up for work.

>>16287612
>>16288043
That's cringe af i swear. After koe btfo'ed them in the past they now aim for a newfag. I applaud their shamelessness

>CCVID is cured
>Duo Umapyoi Collabs
>Can't even break 2k
What's wrong?

>>16290743
I'll die of old age before I list out every HoloEN clip with more than 500k views.
Pls andastand.

This JP clip channel that just clips HoloX is doing very well.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfcS6HF9oypmkaNeBG7bzkQ/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid

>>16290790
No I really am not.

>>16290729
Seems like 1 or 2 genuine fans taking things too personally, while the rest are shitposters just fishing for (You)s.

Frost punk must be a fucking debuff for kronii number to barely change when she do SC reading

>>16290851
That is funny since many Niji members were so steadfast in gatekeeping their streams. But when they see numbers are dropping, they started putting english captions and shit to attract EOPs.

>>16290847
>Pekora Birthday live
Early ones will pick buff games to funnel her and the late ones also pick buff games to get that sweel funnel numbers

>>16290890
>Namibia was FOTM after all

>>16290816
1 500k clip is probably better for the clip channel but 3 250k clips are better for the topic

>>16290847
That's just because pekolive means people can't do 6+ hour streams. We'll see it back tomorrow.
>>16290816
If it's the same people watching the 3x 250k clips? The 3x 250k clips. Watch session time is a thing the algo LOVES, so if you get people watching a ton of different clips one after the other, that's some.algo crack. It's how Beluga was able to balloon his presence on YT. Him and Dream are why the rolled out that abomination of a sub-culling algo back in August.

>>16290785
youre going to die and that wont happen.

>>16290890
>>16290940
Namibia is the patient zero of CCVID

>>16288650
This guy been in the roll these past few months

>>16290890
They filtered out the JOPs and other foreign fanbases because of the English only chat rule

>>16290918
Does that mean kronii's floor is around 5k? That is insanely good numbers for such an absolute piece of shit. How does she do it? Is it just because the rest of council is even worse?

>>16290881
No wonder Vshojo is inclining hard. They get the best of both worlds, alongaide massive numbee of Twitch viewers. Where the fuck is that 2nd gen anyway? They have to keep up the momentum.

>>16290890
Namibiakeks like Nijikeks unfortunately don’t show up to streams of other talents. They only show up for Oryx-chan and Giraffe-kun

>>16290918
I think most people are just tabbed out actually.
Frostpunk is a snoozefest to watch, but Kronii's voice is sex so I listen to it like a podcast.
She has gotten better numbers before on SC readings.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Aw0YMi3GvLM

>>16290816
A more important metric to observe is the view rate and the average watch time of the clip. You can have 3 250k+ clips that took 3 days to tally up and have an average watch time of 80% and it will beat the single 500k clip if it has an average watch time of 30% and tallied up those views over the span of a week.

Kuzuha will participate in upcoming CR cup right?

>>16290987
Their biggest competitor are full of chinks.

>>16290887
>5am EST
Jesus, even as an early morning ESTfag that's still too much for me normally.
Is this more related to Pekora's Birthday stream starting roughly 2 hours later, and trying not to overlap?

>>16290981
I feel bad for Niji clippers. They barely get any favors from the algo god.

>>16288857
Riku is still seething at yagoo for copying his homework but got 10x the result with 10x less the efforts. Hence why he asked NijiEN to sabotage holo in all manner possible.

>>16290729
Even as someone who enjoys and regularly watches some nijis I don't understand diehard nijifans. Everyone just watches the livers they like and the company doesn't matter to them but it feels like the opposite for these assholes.

>>16290988
There are no news about a 2nd Gen atm. Especially after the shitshow with N*x but I'm positive we'll get something this year.

>>16290987
She managed 5k even with CCVID, eventho she barely streamed so the sample size is 2 streams.
Kronii is strong, but she has more debuff streams than buff streams and her schedule is atrocious.
VODs are pretty solid tho (everything above 100k).

>>16290893
>First clip is just over a month old
Damn, that channel really struck gold with gen 6.

>>16290987
Anon. Bae managed to pull 6k on a new years Zatsu at 3pm PST. I'm pretty sure at this point the only one in council who is a sub 4k shitter is Sana. Bae's incline during December was likely hidden behind CCVID, as I suspect she's going to be doing much better numbers than we've seen out of her in the past (will know for sure in the next few weeks if I'm right or I'm just huffing copium gas)

>>16291018
No

https://youtu.be/k6CkgrvJQ6M
Finally.

>>16291093
she needs a buff game like minecraft
otherwise she wont have much to do.

>>16291108
Release is on the 15th, but yea she's going to talk about it.

>>16291018
No. Fuwa and Lauren are though

>>16291070
>Copying his Homework
Sora debuted before Mito you fucking mongoloid.

Can someone give me a qrd on the nux vshojo thing?

>>16291106
>>16291137
What happened to Kuzuha? I think he reduced his activities after his sololive.

>>16289123

>>16290887
This may not be that dumb. Maybe she can get some SEA viewers.

>>16291106
>>16291137
Ah, then only Hal can get big number from this, usually that landing spot stream, is it already done during CCVID?

>>16291018
Anon, I don't know how to break it to you. He's deep in idol rep hell, he isn't doing shit until his album and whatever is done.

>>16291175
Apex died

>>16291175
I heard that he might be preparing for another live and he is also probably busy because of major debut stuff

>>16291085
I really do wonder what other buff streams/games could Kronii do other than the obvious Minecraft and Karaoke Streams

>>16291165
Nux "stops" a doxxing scam and Vj praises him before backstabbing him.

>>16291108
>not overlapping Pekora 3D live...
i don't feel so good...

>>16291221
Oh right he has an album coming soon.

>>16291236
Moona stopped Iofi and Risu from overlapping her friend's birthday

>>16291221
Who's the best male singer in Niji anyway? Is it budget Joker?

>>16291234
In what way did they backstab him?

>>16289541
>>16289589
>sudden
>now
I see there's been a large increase of newfags lately with how much faggots like (you) seething and falling for baits

>>16291216
>Nijikiller goes full Idol route
>Niji's ace ends up doing the same
Black fucking magic I tell you.

>>16291165
Short version is Nux got contacted by a scam posing as official vshojo employees and did a video on it. Vshojo staff originally said they had no issues with nux's video, but then nyanners threw a menhera fit on her discord and suddenly everyone in vshojo has a problem with it and management advised nux not to go through with it.

>>16291302
It’s just my opinion, but yeah I think Joe is the best male singer. Kagami is also good. Both are in groups under labels I believe

>>16291093
>(will know for sure in the next few weeks if I'm right or I'm just huffing copium gas)
Sorry bro, but I think you're on hopium.
Bae's VODs haven't been doing so hot recently and she's squarely in 4th place behind Fauna imo.

Of course, VOD durations makes a HUGE difference in the number of views at the end, but Bae doesn't get to 100k VOD views very often.

But hey, Bae collabs a lot more than Fauna and is generally more memorable to casuals so her outlook might be better.

>>16291302
fucking society man is great and I'm saying this as a holofag. someone should post that catbox link where he sang with Mito, Lulu, and co.

>>16291302
>>16291351
Wtf? How about Yumeoi?

>>16291309
Nyanners ended up stirring a hatemob going after him when he thought he was a-okay to release his vid based on what Vshojo management told him.
I don't like that drama-baiting faggot one bit, but the entire situation definitely exposed that Vshojo's managment is a mess.

>>16291352
Yea, I figured that might the case of just one or two good streams.
Well, she's got the best work ethic out of Council, hopefully she finds something that 'clicks' outside of MC and can incline off of it.

>>16291366
Yumeoi is good too, but Joe and Kagami are just my favorites

>>16291358
False flagger

>>16290790
You're right, i don't care about that shit but nor do I care about Nyanners.

>>16288995
It's not weird at all. Gura is big because Myth is big because Myth scooped up the EOP audience that Cover had got through translated clips. Nyanners is like the #2 or #3 EOPtuber right now so she's not all that far behind, just lacking the Cover boost. In fact, it's pretty weird that Nyanners is as big as she is, considering that she streamed for like 200-300 people for several years. Turns out Youtube subscribers don't always translate to big CCVs.

>>16291309
>>16291382
Some of the girls may haves lied about telling him not to release the video.

>Nyanners being a whore and a bitch
Well that isn't surprising in the slightest. What an absolutely rotten human being she is.

>>16291236
Hey, there is still a chance she won't stop at the one hour mark

>>16291438
listen here you motherfucker. people who watched that clip know what I'm talking about.

>>16291446
Nyanners being the biggest ironic uwu singer getting mogged by Gura (sometimes Sen was called Nyanners clone) would always be funny to me.

>>16291476
She will if moona is planned to show up

>>16291424
The one that stings the most is Baewatch ep 2 imo.
Ep1 did very well (270k views), but ep 2 just cratered (48k views).
It's sad because she's attempting to make content different from other Holos, but maybe it wasn't advertised well enough.

As someone that watches Bae sometimes, I think she'll incline once she starts using her deep/sleepy voice more because like Suisei, I think it sounds a lot better than her zoomer rat voice.

>>16291489
No "holofag" would admit to watching Nijishitty much less a Nijishitty Homo. You are 100% a falseflagger.

>>16290045
All indo chuubas arent really took this whole vtuber thing seriously or as a main job. They mostly do it for fun and as a nice little "pocket money". Even holoID, i dare say, didnt have money as their main reason or else they'll be on hot pursuit like nijiEN

>>16291521
https://files.catbox.moe/62c4ww.webm
fuckign newfag

>>16291489
You're talking to Nijishitty anon so it's pointless.
That clip is pure kino tho and I never watch Nijis lmao.

>>16291438
>>16291502
Ringo > Bure > Rumba

>>16291543
>posting Nijishitty content
Yeah, I'm not watching that shit. You just proved you were a falseflagger.

>>16291513
that is becasue epsidoe 2 was realesedon christmas sandwiched between 2 coversfrom ame, gura and one Irys original.

voxx becoming a genching impact streamer will have tghe same fate as when finana and elira didi it.
It will attract a bunch of genshi fans and scare everyone else. And the former will elave once he has nothing else to do on the game but grind.

>>16291697
His fate is sealed

>>16291697
Eh, he has been reclining anyway.

>>16291489
His Ringo Mogire Beam is really good.

>>16291226
My idea: Themed zatsus. Her nuclear fire noodles one was a hit. Doesn't have to be mukbang stuff (although that would totally work), but more along the lines of Mori's pool/jazz club/wine stuff or Gura's bathtub pizza, for example. Not exactly those same concepts of course, but that idea translated to something that fits her personality.

>>16291513
I didn't even know ep 2 came out so...

>>16291183
That sounds pretty dumb.

>>16291697
he will do more coomer streams to make up until people get bored of them.

>>16291697
Why did Lize manage to incline on genchink shitpact, anyway? She should have hit the barren endgame since forever ago but it keeps working out for her.

>>16291697
Most of the NijiEN male fans are female Genshin coomers in the first place so he's just playing to the crowd

>>16291799
lize has a fanabse made of rpg enjoyers and japanese enjoy gacha more.

What the fuck with all these seething!? Is this seanigs samefagging again or the newfags unironically falling for obvious baits?

>>16291697
You make it sound like streaming Genshin is a bad thing lmao.
It's a free buff game when you do gacha pulls every 2 months when the game releases a new banner.
If Ina could stream Genshin (she probably plays since her roommate drew art for it recently), it would be a free 10-12k stream every gacha session.
People already associate him with the most popular Genshin character anyways so they were begging him to play it.

Finana's Genshin numbers are actually some of her better numbers too, which is what made her branch out to other gacha games with mixed success.
Elira is a fucking Genshin casual who only logs in when she's streaming it so she doesn't deserve numbers for it.
At least Finana and Kanae are at endgame already.

>>16291799
Lize's a great streamer, and is actually capable of making the game entertaining outside of doing gacha.

They really need to add flags

Seems like Watame's shorts series had a decent start despite not being pushed heavily. She might want to get some tips from Marine on marketing that stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3DcpEy3xd8

>>16291799
She paces the content in the game well so she always has something to stream.
Genshin is a snoozefest of game to watch after the initial hype anyways so it's a testament to her ability as a streamer.

>>16291933
I agree, watame should make JOI videos

>>16291799
lize balance it well she has only 3 genshin streams in the last 30 days
voxx is on his 4 th in 2 weeks

>>16291882
It's newfag nijiniggers venturing outside their hugbox for the first time

>potential 100k stream today
>00 posts about midgets

>>16291882
I will bet actual money that they are crystalcafe refugees who came here after luxiem released and are experiencing 4chan for the first time