/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

What is the best way to keep yourself talking in events like >>16184168 ?

>>16187338
What in the hell are you talking about? I've been bouncing around streams on twitch, and some of these streamers are literally saying gibberish half the time and have 100+ views. I'm socially fucked and I can probably do this no problem. You just have to talk about shit you're interested in.

I miss odette

>>16186467
I just ordered a mic bros... I'm going to make my dreams come true this year

>>16190112
Still waiting on my mic to be delivered so slow...

>>16190799
>>16190112
Are you full on buying your way in (like Cimrai, with everything set up to begin with), or are you doing the same as most indies, and upgrading equipment as you go?

Audio is one of the most important things for your stream, but even scuffed audio through a headset mic is better than no stream at all. If your mic isn't due to arrive soon, what are you doing in prep, now?

Blogposting to bump the thread

I'm doing alright at 5-10 ccv on twitch as a m*le but I want to step up my game. I hate twitter and vtweeters with a passion, but that comes with the cost of not knowing how to game the algorithm for exposure.

Any ideas for special events or streams to drum up hype with minimal social media interaction? Or is that wishful thinking?

>>16192868
How did you market yourself before? If we have a better idea of how you've gotten by so far, I think it'd be easier to figure out what's best.
It is kinda wishful thinking though, you can't get hype without getting the word out to people who may be interested

I am currently looking at a specific artist for my vtuber model. They are telling me that the copyright of the design and illustration will be held by the illustrator (them, the artist).
Is this common? Will i be screwing myself if i accept?

>>16193104
Honestly? Follows for follows on both twitch and twitter. I'm decently entertaining enough that if a mutual stopped by, they'd usually comment on my shenanigans. My strongest connections have all been a result of raids, though.

If I can toot my own horn, my persona carries the streams, but I have no idea where to begin clipping for twitter/youtube/tiktok. I think I'm less "clippable moments" and more "generally fun to bullshit with"

guess all I can do at this point is learn how to market? fuck

>>16193581

some (most?) artists will sell the commercial rights to your character art and design, but for a fee of 3x the cost in my (admittedly limited) experience. expensive, but it's worth asking if they'd be willing to do that so there's no issue monetising your content down the road

>>16194069
It is already costing me 140000 yen for said model, something seems off if the commercial rights are not included. I am going to inquire about it just to see if it is a translation error.

>>16192868
It's wishful thinking. No one makes it alone, ever. Almost every single streamer who's doing well now grew with the help of other people. You can grow without networking, but it's very unlikely you'll get far unless you're just producing amazing content which you probably aren't and won't be for a long time.

>>16194205
better be some fucking good artist then

>>16192868
Actively avoiding twitter or any other platforms that could give you the slightest edge is pointless NGMI behavior
you need to do everything you can:
aside from a model reveal if your account is small it will be difficult to drum up interaction unless we're talking a giveaway that will give your craft some exposure (artists for example get an easy way in because everyone loves art)

>>16194205
>something seems off if the commercial rights are not included
You're paying for just the art. JP artists rarely include copyright for it, but if you want to be sure try asking "Can I stream and make money with this? Am I allowed to sell merchandise of this character?" etc instead of bumbling with terms like copyright and stuff and then go from there and ask about it if it's still unclear.

With some artists, you can still stream with the art and use it for monetization, they just keep the rights to the actual art piece itself as far as literal ownership goes. If not though, you're looking at 3x price for sure.

>>16194774
They may be worried about NFT related tangents
but like you said i am going ahead and DMing them for clarification and i specifically asked for what i can/cant do. Seeing as they've already dont models for small corps and other vtubers I'm not worried about what it might entail but fingers crossed.

>>16192868
Special Events:
50, 100, 150, etc follower count (on Twitch).
3, 6, 9, 12 month since first stream; or maybe since current model reveal (don't get greedy with subathons)
Birthday, Christmas, special calendar event (depending on what holidays you observe)

To build hype:
>Pre-announcement.
"Got something in the works for [event], details to come in a week"
>Announcement
"I'm celebrating [my dog's birthday] in two weeks! Would love to see you there!"
>Reminders
Every few days. Personally, I'd put towards the end of your week, depending on where your week starts (Sunday/Monday), so you can put out schedule and people see it's coming on Saturday/Sunday
>1 week warning
Post your schedule. Follow up ~12 hours later with the "My dog turns 2 on Friday! Party on twitch!"
>Get hype
Post on twitter, post in discords, ask friends to shill it, mention it in all your streams.

Social Media
I've found I get crazy good (relative) numbers on Tiktok for announcement posts. Add a little pizazz with some minor video editing, use that as your announcement. Stay as in-character as you want, but don't be the operator.
Instagram is eh, but give it a try. Twitter and reddit can be shilled on too.

Anyone willing to watch a VOD and give me some critiques?

>>16197553
Someone normally is. I won't watch the whole thing, but I might skip around in it a bit

>>16197722
I'll leave this then for anyone that has the time. Thank you in advance! https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1258993818

>>16198187
6.5 minutes of starting soon stream? My dude, you're not building hype. Either get ready on time, or delay stream start for a few minutes.
You're talking over the opening cinematic, complaining you don't know what's going on, and it's your first time playing the game. Don't be a cunt. Either listen to it, hope it gets explained, and complain afterwards; or ignore the story and just talk about random crap.
You're asking stupid questions about the HUD "is this my temperature in celsius or Fahrenheit. Wait, obviously Fahrenheit, or I'd be on fire". Maybe, MAYBE, if you had an active chat this could be used to get them involved. But there's been nothing in the VOD by this point. You're male, so you don't get to play "ditzy girl needs handholding". Instead, maybe compare it to the HUD in base Subnautica.
You get raided, and don't understand the raid message, so you just ask "what does that mean", and it feels like you're trying to play on being a ditz? It's a (bad) word substitution for a well-known phrase. If you're ESL, fair enough.
You're tracking down the pod, you see it in your PDA, you see it on the screen, you see it... "let's figure out what this building is right here"

All this said, you enunciate well, and definitely manage to avoid dead air, both of which can be big problems.

>>16190959
I am buying a cheap one with good reviews ( under $50). I will upgrade when I understand audio stuff better.

>>16190959
I am buying a cheap one (under $50). I will upgrade when I have more money and a better understanding of audio stuff.
I am practicing speaking and enounciation in the meanwhile.

>>16199100
>6.5 minutes of starting soon stream? My dude, you're not building hype. Either get ready on time, or delay stream start for a few minutes.
This is the one criticism that's weird to me. I always start playing at exactly 12 AM PST that's on my schedule. The reason why I start 5 minutes early every time is so the Twitch notifications reach out to my followers before the stream starts as well as posting notifications everywhere else. It's a common issue I've noticed that the notifications don't always appear instantly. I've been given notifications to Kongou's stream for as late as 30 minutes.

>>16184941
Have you tried going for blonde or white hair? Could add to the gopnikness while making it less generic

STOP doing this

>>16199770
You're right, people don't get the notifications straight away. But checking stats on Sully, CCV of 3. I just can't imagine sitting in silence at my computer for 6 (and a bit) minutes, waiting for people to show up. It also feels a weird length of time, unless it's track length?

Waiting for notifications is fine! But I'd think you need to fill the time with something. I start, do a 90 second ad break to stop pre-roll, and then talk about what we're doing today, or previous streams, for the first five+ minutes. I then run a warm-up (normally geoguessr, but anything vs chat can work too, if people are there); and start the meat of the game ~15 minutes in.
I've tabbed out of streams before, because I was waiting for two or three minutes for the streamer to show and it's just BGM.

>>16199930
Need more green and purple.

>>16199930
Depression xD

>>16199930
Is it bad i genuinely think it looked better with the dark circles around the eyes?

>>16200107
I agree. it needs more joker highlights.

>>16200149
It's relatable!

>>16200205
But it still has them anon..

>>16200824
My bad kek, i guess that's what i get for phoneposting

>>16200955
that's part of being 4chancore

How do people feel about"chill" or "comfy" streams? Someone in the previous thread said it's just an excuse to not be interesting but idk, my viewers say they enjoy it when I have chill streams. Usually when I'm playing with friends I get really fired up, but solo streams are more low-energy and calm.

>>16201776
Anecdotal for sure, but it depends on what you're doing. I play a lot of souls games and do challenge runs of hard stuff, but I don't rage or yell and people found it endearing to see a high stress situation handled calmly. I find that if you're incredibly knowledgeable on a subject or game people like chill and comfy but if you're still bumbling through the stream it's bad.

>>16201776
Chill or comfy doesn't mean low energy. A stream is comfortable because the streamer has made a welcoming, relaxing environment, which takes active effort, and will look different depending on the type of stream. For a chatting stream, that might mean nice ambience, a well set up screen, etc. For a gaming stream, it might mean that it's more like a zatsudan where the game is just functioning like a backdrop, and the streamer can talk about their day, engage with chat, etc. You have to be deliberate in making an environment comfortable.

>>16203744
Yeah, I guess zatsudan is what I mean, sometimes I stream art and there's not much commentary vs a going stream

How do you differentiate"comfy" from low-energy? Is it just voice intonation and sounding cheerful as opposed to sounding tired?

>>16201776
its just because a lot of the time people bill themselves as "chill" streamers when what that really means is they sit on the stream just playing a game to no viewers and go minutes at a time without talking and when they do talk its short mumbled phrases that provide no entertainment value whatsoever. then they try to think of ways to describe themselves or maybe ask their friends to describe them or what their streams are like and all they can think of is "oh yeah youre pretty chill i guess" because they dont want to tell their friend that hes boring as fuck
theres nothing wrong with being actually calm and chill and comfy in a way thats appealing and effortful but a lot of the time "chill" is just a dumb buzzword for "shit streamer"

>>16203977
Low energy is your stereotypical, "hey guys, welcome back to part 19 of my dark souls playthrough" where the streamer has nothing to say and just mumbles their way through the game. Art streams, even ones where the streamer doesn't talk much, can be peak comfy with the right background music and occasional chatting. In an art stream, you get to watch the creative process unfold, and I know a lot of people find them to be really pleasant background noise, if not something they're actively watching.

As for intonation, you don't have to sound high energy, but calming and relaxing, which isn't the same as tired. If I'm watching a bored sounding dude play a game in near silence apart from occasional mumbles and words here and there, I'm going to stop watching.

bump

>>16203977
The way I view it is that 'chill' is like when you're crashing hungover at a friends house. Cozy is when you choose to hangout with them playing old games and ordering pizza.

>>16205054
>a bored sounding dude play a game in near silence

What if it's a girl playing in near silence

dying industry general

>>16209177
At best you'd get one or two groomers

What do you do when a viewer in chat asks to play a game with you? As a 2view chuubas it's not like I can just pretend I didn't see the comment...is it considered rude to just say no? I don't want to play games with a random...

>>16210009
>is it considered rude to just say no
no

How would I go about finding some single digit streamers?
Sorting all Twitch streams by views in ascending order is insufferable.
To make this question a bit more relevant to this thread, how would I go about finding YOUR stream?
Are you just hoping a potential viewer would just stumble on it through sheer luck?

I never realized streaming would expose me to schizos (Funnier since I'm a guy). The most obnoxious audience I've encountered on stream are probably kids. They are incapable of self-awareness and provoke the streamer for their own amusement. As much as I want to ban them I don't want to make a scene and ruin the mood for everyone. Anyways, rant over.
>>16210009
Just say no. It doesn't have to be direct, just say you're busy for something. I have a viewer that won't leave me alone because I didn't say no the first time. Some of them could be cloutchasers looking for collabs.

>>16210009
Put a rule in the panels/chat to never ask you to play in chat. If you're open to collab offers, specify to dm you for that. If they still ask, simply remind them about the rule.

>>16210330
If they're bothering the rest of chat you should just ban them and say nothing.
If they're only bothering you, you should suck it up as much as reasonable, but ultimately if you're having a shit time it will make your stream unpleasant to watch. (unless you're a full blown lolcow and your entire audience is there just to watch you make a fool of yourself.
We're social animals and streaming is social-interaction-placebo, in the same way you wouldn't want to hang out with someone who isn't enjoying his time with you, people don't want to watch someone who doesn't enjoy themselves.

>>16210146
The games I play usually have less than 10 chuubas streaming at a time. I just hope people use the vtuber tag and find my model/layout appealing enough to click in.
>inb4 does it work?
Sometimes. It's very unreliable.

>>16210146
You will probably never find my stream unless you look at the browse category of the game I'm playing.I I'm usually easy to spot since I play games that aren't popular but people rarely browse for streamers anyway. They usually pick from the first row, or the recommended streamers.

>>16210146
Im wondering how ppl find me too....<30 followers but I get up to 5 viewers watching random streams and none of them are even my followers. Where did they even come from lmao

I've always wondered how streamers grew to where they are. When I see people like Meszii or Kongou I sometimes wonder if their content would still work without a chat. It would really help out if chuubas kept archives...

https://voca.ro/1bsPgUEGvF9d
how are my voice reps bros

>>16211839
Are you forcing it or is this actually how you normally speak? If you're forcing it it doesn't seem like it would be good for your vocal chords to speak for 2+ hours like this

>>16211917
I have been practicing this for months and sang for 2 hours straight like this yesterday with no pain, my diaphragm got tired before my vocal chords did

Any pastebins or links to vocal reps to do? Or stream reps in general? >Inb4 "just stream more"
Things to practice on offstream days

>>16211839
Holy shit that sounds fun

>>16211982
Then go ahead anon, you're doing great

>>16212072
>>16212231
https://voca.ro/16FEUDnSzwIi
thank you anons I was worried people would think it was cringe

>>16212500
Its like a throwback to an 80s-90s horror comedy skeleton/gravekeeper host, its super kino. I can see people enjoying it

>>16211839
>>16212500
It's kinda fun in small doses but I can't imagine listening to this for more than, say, 15 minutes, it gets kinda grating.
If instead you sprinkle it into the way you talk, like for emphasis or comedic purposes I think it would benefit you a lot more.

>>16212500
I don't think you realize this but that sound you're making is really close to what you need to do for metal screaming. It's an option if you ever choose to take it.

>>16212658
>Its like a throwback to an 80s-90s horror comedy skeleton/gravekeeper host, its super kino. I can see people enjoying it
for maximum throwback cleary this needs to go even next level and be a muppet tuber

>>16211668
>I sometimes wonder if their content would still work without a chat.
Kongou has in the past collabed with a block of wood to show that he could carry a collab singlehandedly, and did a lecture stream where he ignored chat for the entire lecture

>>16199930
ok so i'm gonna just give up then

>>16212708
https://vocaroo.com/1c5raDzJNnOi

>>16212905
I cannot for the life of me get complete false chord. Every single video is literally just "just do the angry sigh bro" but all I can get is the throat singing sound. I asked someone who was specifically teaching to use the throat sound to get to false chord and he said to "relax your vocal folds and let more air out" like bitch I didn't even know I was USING my vocal chords

>>16212914
I was actually going to go with demon puppet but not muppet

>>16213087
this is why kongou is my oshi

>>16212905
Yeah, he totally reminded me of Grym
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5AWmJOOsK4
That's his metal singing voice but talking "normally"
>>16212500
Sounds good, just breathe a little less into the mic, that's actually grating with headphones on. Maybe talk louder and get further away so the air doesn't blow directly into it, but you certainly sound good.

>>16213217
I'm using a headset mic and will upgrade to a real one so the breathing should be less of an issue because it won't be right in front of my mouth, but thank you for letting me know people hate it

Post designs

>>16213377
someone else did it for me earlier
now i wanna give up

>>16213147
Your natural voice is not only pleasant in and of itself but it's a LOT more manageable for long periods of time.
I wouldn't listen to a one hour podcast with the growly voice, I WOULD listen to a one hour podcast with your natural voice.

If you want to expand that gimmick to the point of using it all the time I'd suggest working on your intonations with the growly voice, you sound a bit monotonous, maybe if you can really express emotions well with that voice it would be much more pleasant.
I'd also consider dialing it down to like 70% or maybe even 50%, you SOUND like you're straining to do it and nobody wants to listen to someone putting on a voice.
I suspect if you do the growly voice a bit more subdued and really work on emoting with that voice (an anon mentioned muppets and I think that's a good image to keep in mind, try being sad and depressed, try being angry (in a way that's different to the regular growl), try being happy and shining, try being bashful and embarrassed) you might have a neat gimmick, as it is right now it's just a bit much.

Also, being able to do all sorts of voices on the fly is a LOT of fun, so dust that cheesy announcer off and give him some love too.
I'm reminded of Polka in Hololive who has a genuinely surprising range of voices she can do.

>>16213377
This is my work in progress. I still have to do the paint job for her dress, make a better texture for the hair, and add other accessories.

>>16213493
>Your natural voice is not only pleasant in and of itself

>>16213493
Catposter is right, mix it up. Your natural voice is great too. You can run it as a gimmick where you come out of possession or something

>>16213675
Cute! Looks .KR

>>16213787
Thank you! The hair was a bitch to sculpt. I know I took a chance doing curly hair but I thought something different couldn't hurt.

>>16213493
>>16213748
ty anons I was mostly going to go full gimmick because I was worried my voice was too boring and generic to get people to listen because I barely emote or have poggers reactions so I could at least have "the thing" that set me apart

You are all Hololive Nijisanji rejects, the only thing you succeeded in is giving money to artists and riggers

>>16213147
Throat singing is exactly what you need to do for false cord, specifically kargyraa. It's vague but trial and error is really all you're gonna do to get it. When you do kargyraa you're gonna have to relax it until you get a breathier rumbly sound and then you do the FC scream. There's the r/screaming discord that's full of smart people in there that can help you with the throat singing transition.

>>16213955
jokes on you i don't wanna be owned by a corpo

>>16213955
ha, good thing I'm both of these people, so the money stays in the family.

>>16213955
Can't be a reject if I never applied
Check and mate, anon

>>16213955

>>16213955
Jokes on you, I'm my own draw fag!

>>16213997
Also, when they say relax vocal cords they usually just mean replace the voice with just breath.

>>16213688
Don't just react to nothing but the compliment you delicate fucking flower.
Here's some homework for you; with the growly voice do the following
1. find an intensity in your growly voice which you can maintain effortlessly.
Mind you, not "train yourself to be better at maintaining it", EFFORTLESSLY!
People can hear when a voice is forced too much and it's almost never a pleasant experience to listen to it for more than 5 minutes.
2. With the intensity you settled for in task 1, clip yourself expressing these emotions:
a. absolutely ecstatic, you just won the lottery and your fiance is pregnant.
b. Depressed and melancholic, a LOT of self pity, whining and "boo-hoo"ing
c. bashful and awkward, You've just learned one of your few regulars is a pretty girl and she just called you her husbando in chat.
d. sarcastic and condescending, just say something with the most over-the-top sarcastic voice, anything works.

As I mentioned before, have "muppet" in mind, be a little cartoony with it.

>>16213892
Full gimmicks rarely work out because truth be told people only care about a gimmick if it's attached to a personality they want to watch anyway.
If you can find the growly sweet spot I think you can have this gimmick without alienating people who don't want quite so much violence out of the voice that's coming out of their computer.

>>16213892
https://youtu.be/maGipFgrzys

Heres an example of switching voices for comedic effect. Theres another clip i cant find where she uses her normal voice about wishing she had a family

>>16213416
Post it nigga

>>16214283
you can literally scroll up
or if you're too lazy: >>16199930

>>16214283
I agree. I posted mine. Let's see this shit.

>>16214349
Are you the dude who had the one with green hair from before? This is an improvement if it is, but I hope you didn't pay for this. You can literally find better stuff on Booth for free.

>>16214079
>>16213147
You know what. I'll just post a vocaroo for you. Maybe it might help you. I'll just say I'm not an expert on this
https://voca.ro/1dc84Ji0epyi

>>16214488
i've been doing this all on my own with no money or random free assets because i'm just a fuckin loser i guess

>>16214579
Incoming 1view but I've seen people with PNGs that just blast piano versions of Anime songs on stream have more than 3 viewers so I think you'll be good

>>16214502
NTA but thanks for that, I'm taking notes.

>>16214111
I WILL just react to the compliment because I wanted to post the image I thought of
It is "effortless" mechanically speaking, it just sounds "strained" on higher notes because of the nature of it (and low notes like the Saw one because I'm bad at it) I'm not tensing up anywhere and can go as long as I have the breath to
I will work on emoting though. I basically only use it to sing so that's not really something I worked on. I used to practice making lots of sounds and voices but I stopped because adulting

>>16214488
Nah for a DIY job it's not bad. I'm making mine too.

>>16214349
With a conventional avatar, you either have to go high int or be cheery

With a bright avatar like Kroniii, the junxtapose of being a doomer is the appeal.

>>16214579
Keep going homie, you have more than me right now

Is having unnatural skin colour on a model a bad choice?? I'm taking like light purple/pink

>>16215610
Just make sure all the accessories make the color look good. For example green and purple, teal and orange, etc

>>16214488
i have some paid booth assets i can give you if you want. textures and whatnot. here. they made my old vroid look alot better.
https://files.catbox.moe/jzn11w.zip
https://files.catbox.moe/pxyun0.zip
https://files.catbox.moe/tf4t7q.zip
https://files.catbox.moe/3v5xhr.zip
https://files.catbox.moe/9ggjff.zip

>>16215676
oops, meant to reply to
>>16214349
>>16214349
>>16214349
>>16214349

>>16215676
Not him but Based

>>16213675
C-cute!!

>>16212004
Watch your own VODs

>>16215676
Nice!

Also wanted to add an interesting tip for you folks. If you guys have clipstudiopaint, there are a lot of free brushes that can be used to make accessories in the Vroid beta version. My chubba's earrings were literally made from a free brush set.

Is there anyone from wvt or asp that actually became a success?

>>16216659
Lumi is probably the only one who managed to go corpo. Rrat is that Mumei was also an /asp/ie after leaving the hint "Amber" in one of the threads and later came out with a design that was similar to Amber from Genshin Impact. Though it's not confirmed.

>>16216659
Define success

>>16216659
kabhaal's a 1k andy

>>16217192
wouldn't say he's "from" wvt or asp though

>>16217224
he literally posted here like 2 days ago

>>16217255
by that logic, Yozo, Nemu, Krimbo and all those others are also "from" here. he was streaming before /asp/ was even called /auds/ he's not "from" the thread.

>>16217394
why are you so angry

>>16217804
He's right though. It's not the same to be an outsider that visits the threads every so often, than someone that emerged from the threads themselves.

>>16217932
that doesn't explain why he's so angry

>>16217954
there's a reason why this place is called /asp/ies

>>16216659
LexParte is almost a partner. Started last July and posted here a lot.

>be retarded
>get told he's retarded
>why you angry?
aspiring vtubers?

>>16211839
Your talk flow is good. The voice is annoying. Speak normally.

>>16211668
>wonder if their content would still work without a chat
It's not that hard. You ask a question and then make up a response to both Yes or No replies and then keep going.

How do i be a chuuba if i had allegations in my past that were cleared by the court of law? American male, in his 40s

>>16222062
bruh what?

>>16222062
bruh who?

>>16222062
What are you talking about? Just do your opsec reps in the OP and get your info taken off public record websites. Why would anything your roommate do come up as a chuuba?

>>16217192
Getting a raid doesn't make it your viewer average. His average is 1/4th or less than, which is still great but he's not from /asp/, he just posts here.

>>16222062
you wouldn't fit in with all the barely legals in the chuuba space

>>16222062
When they bring it up just tell them you were falsely accused and show them all the facts. It happened to the black dude in Red Dwarf and hes fine now

>>16222062
>40
Do you sound like a twink? If they find out its over. Fans are ageist as fuck

>>16211839
I would never watch a full stream like this.

what you guys think of rat chubas?
also i think i need to find someone to make a model i have the desing ready m0h4g

>>16210146
Is this is a trick question to make chuubas realize they shouldn't be trying to get discovered via Twitch?

>>16222705
Rats are the modern penguins of doom

>>16209250
Streaming isn't a "dying industry". That's all Vtubing is

>>16222062
V-vox?

>>16222715
he's either a "groomer" looking to prey on 2view chuubas or a 2view himself trying to get advice on how to be discovered

can't blame him if he's the second, as a 2viewer i also want to know how

>>16222795
what does this even mean

>>16223622
cringe zoomer

can an avatar look good with a 3/4s view looking at the game as opposed to looking straight at the chat or do you have to draw/rig it a specific way for that

>>16223578
Network and interact with other chuubas, create content (highlights and quick low effort memes) for Twitter/Tiktok/Youtube/Wherever you post your content because more people click your profile than you think.

Those are the only two ways you'll be growing.


the secret third way is be so good that other big people clip you. don't depend on this, it won't happen.

I have used for years a nickname and there is a lot of information that can dox me if you search properly.
I should change my name or continue with my old nickname.

>>16223681
Don't try to reinvent the wheel, just keep it forward-facing.

>>16223695
Just start fresh you idiot

how did you guys decide on a concept? i'm torn between one idea that i think is more unique and another that i think i suit better interest/personality-wise

>>16223695
>i have a username that can lead to my old identity that could hurt my reputation
>should i change it?

ngmi+bait+wasting peoples time+you'll never escape your identity

>>16223749
hmm i guess you are right

>>16223782
>one idea that i think is more unique
It isn't, and it won't be. No one cares about your unique concept because no one is doing anything particularly unique. Viewers come for your content, not your unique character concept.

Pick something that you like and just go with it.

>>16223695
just come up with a new unused nickname anon. it’s unlikely you’ll get big enough to be doxxed anyways but why risk it

>>16223729
>being turned slightly to the side is reinventing the wheel

So i have dick pics out in the wild, and its small, how do i go about getting them deleted?

>>16223910
Being turned slightly to the side means drawing your model a completely different way that can only function for streaming games or videos and nothing else and may even be more difficult to rig because it's heavily asymmetrical and outside the norm of what a rigger usually does..

>>16223984
how this is related to being a vtuber?

People on this board are really obsessed with opsec and being totally un-doxxable, but what if a bunch of people who know you irl know your vtuber name? Or what if your friends with a lot of fellow vtubers irl? Isn't it impossible to totally hide your identity unless you start from scratch and literally don't make any vtuber friends or hide your identity from fellow chuubas?

>>16224082
I dont have any friends my dude....

>>16224082
Yes

>>16223833
alright, thank you!

>>16224082
I personally don't care that much. If people I know IRL know my vtuber name then I'd hope they're good enough friends to not doxx me. If you're friends with VTubers IRL then who fucking cares? They're vtubers too. The point of opsec is hiding your identity if it's something you want to hide. If you're friends with vtubers IRL then you clearly don't care that much.

>>16224001
Ok thank you, that's a much better answer

>>16224082
but anon i have no friends and i don't want to have any vtuber friends i just want to clean my backlog of games and do movie reviews i just want to do the vtuber thingy because i have no motivation otherwise

>>16223782
You don't have a main aesthetic/theme that speaks to your soul?

>>16224082
Just don't tell them.

>>16223782
Remembered a character from a game i liked, gave me the idea for my concept (And the MC gave me the idea for my name)

>>16224266
i have a couple, but they don't mesh particularly well.

>>16224082
I will just never ever break kayfabe even in dms

>>16224363
Resigned to having no viewers this early?

>>16223984
Dmca

>>16223782
I mashed up complimenting traits and clothing from characters I enjoy into a pinterest-style mood board. Started that way, then handed it off to an artist with a short description of the character's "personality" and what look and theme I was going for even though I'm not LARPing. They gave me a sketch, I asked for some small changes, and then they finish it up and I liked it.

>>16224458
Why is never breaking kayfabe bad?

>>16224136
>>16224170
>>16224259
damn ok my bad for asking, forgot what board I'm on

hope y'all find friends that are trustworthy and cherish you

>>16224346
Yes they do you faggot
"creativity" is literally just taking things you like and putting them together

>>16224864
No one wants to RP with you.

>>16224562
ooh, that sounds like fun! and a good idea. i'll give it a try - thank you :)

>>16225082
Yes I do

Anyone know a good ass hair trimmer?

>>16224897
i have like 4 good friends like close friends and a lot of other "friends"

>>16222705
Rodents and Cats are the most common animal type vtubers.

>>16225480
I'm close friends with 2 vtubers, decent friends with 6 other vtubers and "friends" with 3 vtubers. As in, I know them all irl and they know my full legal name lmao. It's literally impossible for me to hide my identity

>>16222705
What animal you pick doesn't matter. Pick something you like and go with it, no one cares what animal you pick.

>>16225827
Fish??? Dogs???

>>16226401
Pick something, no one cares I can guarantee it.

>>16226607
I'm not that anon I was just calling you dumb

I'm considering becoming a Vtuber modeler/papa in the future, and slowly raise enough money to potentially open up my own studio for talent recruiting, do you guys think it would be possible to make this happen? i very much enjoy the idea of creating our own group one day and entertain the masses in this ever-growing digital era.

t.drawfriend from a few threads ago

>>16227091
>do you guys think it would be possible to make this happen?
Probably not if we're being realistic, unless you can either find people gullible enough to join yet another fresh group run by someone who presumably has zero experience or success in content creation but who are also talented enough to bring success to your group. Groups like this pop up all the time and either fail and cause drama or just hemorrhage money with no option of success in sight.

>>16227091
You can try but it's a long term thing. If you are a good modeler/papa you can help give them new costumes and outfits all the time which lower costs by a lot. You also need enough money to pay for assets and good art. Also hire a full time manager too and the salary for that.

>>16227586
Fair point, finding talents that are willing to give it a shot is definitely gonna be an issue, but what currently worries me is that you are right in assuming i've got zero experience. I do want to learn how to start things up however, and that is why i'm here. Apologies for being too optimistic but i can't deny that the idea fascinates me, even if we don't get to grow big.

>>16227091
Are you the guy who drew that fat chick

>>16227826
Definitely can do the first part for sure, i'm a little green but i learn quick i say. For the stable art and manager it may be harder to do but i'm willing to lend a hand too.

>>16227898
I drew this one. (And recently colored it)

>>16227869
I've seen a few artists do is open auditions for a finished model. Artgun comes to mind but I've seen two Japanese artists trying to get more EN clientel do this as well. They opened auditions for the model and essentially just picked someone and released them into the wild. It's far off from making an org and really only something you can do if you have a following but it's one avenue to take. Keep in mind you aren't really getting anything back and it's essentially a giveaway with more steps but it's a start to just getting your name out there in general.

>>16228080
god i want her to sit on my face

>>16228080
pretty fuckin sex desu

Any advice on touching my art up? I feel like the clothes look bad but I’ve looked at it for too long and can’t pick out errors myself. I’m going for a different pose because I want to try rigging something different.

>>16228489
the bottom half is disgusting get rid of it entirely and just use a half body because literally nobody cares about whether your featureless anime male is drawn well or not

Why can’t I just draw the hair for my model and leave it alone instead of redrawing it all the time… trying to go for big fluffy hair but not heavy or shaggy looking.
At least I’m set on a style + addition of heart ahoge I’m a guy btw

>>16225067
fair point, i'll put more thought into it

>>16228132
Sounds about right, could also be a good learning experience on how to handle the talents, we all have to start from there. I don't exactly have a very big following atm. by the time i (theoretically) would make that auction, it might grow.

Yeah, i like the sound of that. Is there anything else i should keep my eyes on?

>>16231106
ugly bug lady should keep the mask on and let me pretend she has fox pussy

bump

>>16228631
Honestly driving me nuts.

>>16233011
just pick something and move on. you're a vtuber you can update yourself as time goes on.

How do you get people to see your content on Twitter? I posted some art/graphics of my vtuber and the posts that do get seen do well, but I feel like half the time they just get buried in the popular hashtags right away

>>16235484
don't think too hard about and just keep posting. make sure you change it up so when someone clicks your profile it's not just a solid wall of your own reference sheet spammed everywhere.

Is chaturbate viable as a platform if I don't plan on doing porn streams?

>>16235785
Why?

at least the bait bumps the thread

>>16213892
i feel like i've heard your voice on this board before

>>16235927
I wanted to play hentai games on stream, mostly... And it just might be a good way to get around some of the bullshit restrictions YT/Twitch have though honestly I don't know what kind of restrictions CB has there. But I've got no interest on masturbating on stream myself or anything like that...

>>16236388
No one will watch you, but just go play them on Plexstorm.

>>16236699
Oh nevermind, plexstorm went under. Guess that shows how much interest there is in that type of content.

>>16236357
that's not a good thing because I haven't posted before

i got my first fanart and almost cried a tear of joy despite it being slightly..hentai lul
i'm so happy!

are there any voice examples I could read other than the Jermacraft one? I want to practice enunciating and getting rid of my nasally pitch and then post vocaroo here for critique

>>16237067
https://iwanttobeavoiceactor.com/
just go through the site and read everything out loud.

>>16237049
congrats!

Trimbleanon, I went through his “True Mask” video and I sound the same with my nose pinched, so I’m not singing with my nose, but I’m not feeling any vibration in my face. Am I doing it right?

>>16237173
thanks! this looks really helpful, I'll practice following their suggestions and post a vocaroo in a couple days

>>16237067
>not wanting to do jermacraft

>>16237635
Because I've already done it lol I want to have some variety instead of posting the same thing over and over

>>16238508
ok here you go
>It's a very interesting one indeed, because this is YOUR test Michael, this is YOUR TEST. The entire reason why I brought you here in the first place. The door has just locked behind you, you thought this was a tour? Your test begins now.
>I know how much you don't like smelly smells, I know how much you think it's DIGUSTING, beetles and bugs, you wouldn't touch them when you were a child. Now you must, because if you cannot be in this room for more than one minute, GASgasGASgas, the gas will start flowing, ONLY after you puke though I gotta make that really clear I've been talking for a while.
>Only after you- if you puke in to that toilet, GAS! gas will fill the room gas g-g-gas gas ( unintelligible sound) ga-gas, gas will fill the room.
>Make your choice., will you stand the smelly smells, for 10 minutes? Or will you puke into the toilet, filling the room with gas -g-g GASGASGAS g-g- gas gas, fill the room with GAS, nerve agent GAS GAS, fill the room with the gas. GAS GAS, g-gas, g-gas ( unintelligible sound) G-GAS GAS gas.
>Make your choice.

Any youtube videos teaching fundamental singing exercises?

>>16243992
Trimble

>>16244000
>Trimble
what the fuck does that even mean?

>>16244052
https://www.youtube.com/user/Tenoretrimble/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid

>>16244075
Thank you anon.

>>16236751
>>16235785
I stream hentai games on ePlay and manyvids. I get a good number of people watching on ePlay (70-100) so try there

>>16245465
Thanks, I'll check it out

Hi bros, does anyone have experience commissioning japanese artists? I don't know if it's rude to ask when are they going to start my vtuber.
I paid them back in October and they said my vtuber will be done at the end of January but they still haven't contacted me yet. The anxiety is killing me

>>16248937
it's not the end of january yet is it? Wait till after jan than contact them.

>>16248971
Yes but they are supposed to send me the finished model at the end of January, that was the agreement. But the artist hasn't sent me sketches or anything of the sort

>>16249071
Just dm them anon
Sometimes people can also forget things
They will not get offended if you ask if they are on schedule either

>>16190959
think cimrai was a face streamer beforehand and had the computer/audio equipment already tho.

>>16249561
Sure, but she didn't have the model, rigging, opening animation, custom overlays, and everything else though.

And 'facecam streamer' is a weird way of saying BDSM camgirl.

I don't even care about becoming a vtuber but this seems to be the only place on 4chan to talk about topics related to content creation.

>>16187338
Act as if you are recording a let's play for youtube but with drop in live chat for anyone who happens to pass through.
You are supposed to upload your vods/edited clips to youtube anyway so you don't want it to just be minutes of dead air for the vod viewers.

>>16249653
Is there some kind of stigma against buying all your equipment early on or something? I started about a month ago and I pretty much have all my equipment set up, including overlay, schedule, graphics, and vroid model

>>16252855
the stigma comes from underaged children jumping headfirst onto the latest fad because they watched hololive in their recommended once and proceeded to buy $100's worth of stuff just to end up a 0 view and quit a few months later.

>>16252855
nah, bitches be salty that some vtubers spend a chunk of money right out of the gate and then proceed to, gasp, do well.

same people will then consider a vtuber who averages 300-500 viewers a stream as having wasted their money because they aren't getting 1k +

in short bitches be salty. spend your money how you like.

>>16252982
Oh, well in my case I mostly put together stuff I already have lying around

The graphics like overlays, vroid, and backdrops you can all do for free yourself, as long as you have an eye for design and some creativity. I spent hella $$$ building my PC but everything specific to vtubing I did myself and cost $0. Other than my time lol

>>16252855
Not sure if there's a stigma against it, but a lot of people get into vtubing (or streaming in general), thinking they'll make a stupid amount of money super quick.
That's not the case.
I have, absolutely, not had a meteoric rise to fame. But I've done a lot better than quite a few people on r/twitch, and twitter. My CCV isn't great either, but I consistently pull some viewers, and have a few fans.
Including sponsorships, I've made ~$400 over 7 months. Maybe that's on the super low end, but it's pizza money, and covers most of my non-art expenses.

As >>16252982 says, the issue is people blowing their savings on it, and then failing. I know this is something I've done numerous times in other hobbies, but streaming is one where spending big makes an obvious difference to quality.

Buying big at the beginning (model, rigging, expressions, bgm, overlays, alerts, emotes, badges, GPU/CPU, three monitors, webcam, mic, lighting, etc) gives a huge boost to how nice your screen looks. And it certainly can make people more likely to stick around.
My early streams were super low quality. Headset mic, handmade overlay, $50 art, and that was the only money I'd spent. They looked kind of shit, but I still got a following, so I bought and upgraded. But my early streams are low quality. Doesn't super matter, but it gives me a slow start.
Someone else I know started at the same time, with slightly higher price point, and averages more viewers than me. He's a better streamer, I'll admit it.
Second person I know started the same time, broke the bank buying everything (not super high cost, but still expensive)... And hasn't had their first payment from twitch yet. They're a boring streamer. It's flashy, and high quality, but dull.

Mostly, I don't like seeing people burn their savings for a hobby they end up dropping and not enjoying. Often because they then start complaining about it, and it's their own fault.

>>16253108
This. It's mostly a hobby and if you got money you can do better. Spend what you want, just dont be jealous that someone isnt pulling everything by the bootstraps from the start.

>>16253121
based
that creative energy is something most people lack and is something you can use to stand out from the masses

I had a lot of fun learning how to rig live2d models,
its really simple and I wish people were a little more receptive to trying things out on their own and spending just an hour or two learning something instead of wasting it shitposting

>>16253197
All valid points, and I appreciate you sharing your journey. $400 over 7 months might not be crazy profit but your following and content will snowball so it's nothing to look down on either.

I guess what I was trying to get across is that newbies don't have to break the bank just to start out, granted I did break the bank a little on my PC but I've been overdue for an upgrade for years already. As long as you have a PC that can run OBS and a game at the same time without combusting, you're good to go. There's tons of free overlays and Canvas is free for the functions you need. The rest is just time and energy, and the drive to learn skills.

I spent over $4k getting started
I average 2 viewers

>>16253943
You're absolutely correct! I think we're sort of making the same point - it's not worth breaking the bank to get started.

If I could do it again, I would DEFINITELY have spent more money to get a running start, but I've had a habit of buying expensive shit I don't need for a hobby, and didn't want to do that here (I've done it for TCGs, circus skills, biking, tabletop games, weightlifting, and cooking). For all of those, the stuff either had resale value, or I'd eventually use it myself. But reselling avatars is tricky, if you're a 0view.

>>16248937
If the request was on Skeb don't ask them. That place is scummy as hell and just for asking you could get banned and lose the right to get your commission or money back.

>>16251888
Yeah, we really need an eceleb board, i wonder what that board's /asp/ would look like

>>16254160
>spending more than $500
ngmi

>>16254160
Bro, your being female reps??

>>16254160
Bro? Your networking? Your social media reps?
Surely you can do better after spending that much even 10 CCV is good enough for pity views even if you're not interesting.

Do debuts actually matter?

>>16254262
I used to be a cosplayer so I'm just trading one expensive and useless hobby that requires a million extra skills for another.

>>16255198
unless you have a shitload of marketing money behind you like shartemis, no

>>16255198
My friends did debut streams and hit 50+ followers in the first stream. I didn't do one and I'm gaining followers really slowly but I kinda just jumped into it. I do plan on having a debut when I update my model

>>16255278
>>16255279
Sorry for the plebbit link since the original tweets were deleted but I'm going back to this https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/kdowwi/regarding_lyrica_quote_tweeting_moccas_tweet/
I think I agree that people should actually stream and see if they like it before buying a model and making a formal debut etc. A lot of people probably go in knowing nothing about streaming straight to debut. But it does seem advantageous to have a debut as long as it goes WELL

>>16255198
>>16255349
Adding on to this, the friends that I mentioned had their debuts after they had already established a presence in the community by networking with fellow chuubas and participating in vtuber trends. I'm pretty sure neither spent money on promoting and made most of their graphics themselves.

>>16254160
That's what you get for being m*le
With that level of production just by being a female you'll get at least 30 views guaranteed

>>16255546
I'm going to have literally nothing besides some friends in a few non-chuuba communities once I'm at the point where I can announce a debut, seems like it'll be an uphill battle.

>>16255662
This

>>16255906
When is your debut? If it's months away then you have time to establish yourself in the community and get more friends. It's more than just asking ppl to support you for no reason, you have to put in just as much effort and support them too. Pop into their streams, interact with them on twitter, share advice or tips, play games together and not just on stream. Doesn't matter if they're also 2view or 5 or 10view chuubas. Support each other and build your own group of friends.

>>16254160
>spent over $4k
why?

>>16254160
Mind doing a cost breakdown? I might also be a 2/3view but I didnt spend nearly as much and I'm having trouble picturing just what you'd spend $4k on

>>16255120
>>16254940
>>16255173
>>16256661
>>16256413
Male

Mics, rigs, backgrounds, and music werent that expensive. Total 2k. I went through a lot of fiverr concept artists for my design

I bought local radio and tv ads, thats where it got expensive

>>16256827
covfefe chan?

>>16256198
I might have been exaggerating when I implied I didn't have chuuba friends already, but for the most part I think the wider community, including a lot of the chuubas mentioned in /wvt/ are kinda... not very interesting. It feels like chuubas interact with each other just because they are chuubas and not because their interests fully align, and to me that feels like humans interacting with humans because they are also human, even though we are obviously more complicated than that, and it makes a lot of interactions seem shallow as fuck, but if I was asked at gunpoint to do a collab with Koopa or something, I'd take the bullet since we're not going to mesh. It's just like how you have two regular streamers come together just because both are funny, otherwise you get Joel and Jerma's Halo disaster.

Can't exactly say we're chuuba enthusiasts like you could say car enthusiasts coming together either (though it sometimes feels like it when some spitwad chuuba makes a show of how they got an expensive artist or rigger) because literally any other interest is going to take priority over how well you can lean over or make your mouth move. I want my choice of content to speak for me, and to bring in those people who are actually interested in it rather than just becoming part of a formless hobby blob that doesn't represent me fully.

>>16256827
>I bought local radio and tv ads, thats where it got expensive
what the fuck

>>16256827
>i bought local radio and tv ads

Were you going for a boomer audience? What the fuck

If something sounds insane and there's no proof, it's probably bait. There's been a lot lately, especially this most recent thread.

To the people that made it to affiliate, what kind of games helped you get there? Which did you play when you first started? Why did you pick them?

I've never been much of a gamer and have no niche as a player so I'm stumped, but I have confidence in my capacity to comment on whatever I pick.
I thought of starting with a hacked Pokemon Yellow and a couple of jokey fighting games but no idea if those will help.

>>16256827
Dude...

DO NOT spend any more

>>16256827
Backgrounds, assets and music you can probably find for free on booth or make yourself. You really don't need to buy ads.

>>16257421
"I spent 4k on everything only to have single digit ccv" is a tale that can be attributed to at least one person from here unironically actually

>>16256992
Find chuubas who have similar interests as you then. If you play games, find someone who also games and maybe would be interested in gaming together. If you like drawing find other artist chuubas and trade art. Most chuubas have an interest that they're streaming about, you don't just stream about streaming.

>>16257478
Piggybacking this because I'm also in the same boat: never gamed much before, not good enough to stand out in popular games, not familiar enough with indie games. Also curious how long it takes on average to reach affiliate m

So do you guys make up your stories to tell on stream or do you genuinely have interesting lives?
All of my fun stuff happens in my work but it's not in my vibe and I never talked about my work, should I convert them? How???

>>16258063
a lot of my interesting stories have been wasted on telling the wrong people

>>16257956
nigga they all play games

>>16257421
Worse has happened. Someone spent 9k on a times square ad

>>16256827
aww shit...what are you doing? I've spent zero on this and intend on letting any money I make doing this pay for any upgrades I need.

>>16258670
Who?

>>16257478
>>16258015
Find a niche. Stick with it. Variety gaming fucks your stats.
For me, Monday is 'Variety' night, where I play a long-running part of something (normally); Wednesday is Warhammer, where I play Vermintide, Space Hulk, Deathwatch, or something like that; and Friday is (normally) Strategy, so CK2/3, Dungeon Keeper, AoE, etc.
Picking one game means if you stop that game, you lose viewers. But going full on variety won't work either.

>>16258962
I think they're talking about Cofevfe
Or however you spell that mess

>>16256827
>I bought local radio and tv ads, thats where it got expensive
Ok now you're trolling

>>16256827
What state? Asking for a friend because ive seen some shit lol

You WILL post the tv ads

>>16257421
It’s not that I believe him, it’s that I want to believe him.

>>16256827
based retard

>>16256827
Retard, saying this as a fellow vtuber

Aspirant Live2D havers
What would your money cap budget would be for spending on a Full Body Live2D, model in .psd and rigging whole package ?

>>16260882
$700 preferred to get decent artist/rigger that likely has availability, absolutely no higher than $1000. That's WAY more than enough to get something works well for your first model.

>>16261057
Should i get a tv ad?

>>16261378
if youre an amerimutt, get an ad played in the upcoming superbowl

>>16261535
ADRIANS_REALITY I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE BUY AN ASPIE A SUPER BOWL AD WITH YOUR BITCOIN MILLIONS IT’D BE HILARIOUS

How accurate is singing carrot's note detection? Cause I haven't had a singing teacher in years and it says I've got nearly a 3 octave range, 2.8. Would explain some things though

>>16253197
I've been at it for a year now, is it worth it to finally drop money on upgrading my rig. My current isn't bad or anything, it's just not as good of art as I'd like it to be.

>>16252855
there's an image I didn't bother to save about a guy skipping 4 stairs and reaching his foot onto the 5th one that says "COMMISSIONING A FANCY MODEL"

>>16262342
You can check it by pulling up a virtual piano and trying to sing whatever note Carrots says is the top/bottom of your range. It may also be that your singing coaches can tell that your low/high notes aren’t comfortable and Carrots just knows you managed to hit the note.

>>16263966
I don't have a singing coach, but honestly the info it gave was about what I expected which is bottom range in contralto, upper range in lower end of first soprano. With a coach I could probably expand that.

guys waht does this mean for me

>>16265112
It means you're either a contralto or a tenor.

>>16265112
What did you use for this

>>16265112
What does it mean

>>16262342
its accurate. identifying a pitch based on mic input isnt exactly difficult. what it cant tell is whether you actually sound good singing those notes
>>16265194
how fucked am i
>>16265216
https://singingcarrots.com/range-test

>>16257928
Except when they start talking about radio ads then you should realize it's bait. "I paid too much for a model" and "yeah I bought some local radio" ads are two entirely different things and it should reek of bait.

>>16258670
Except that person is one of the top 5k earners on Twitch despite barely streaming an average of 3 hours a day and makes money from merch and other sources as well.

>>16265352
both of those ranges are nice; if male, tenor means you can sing a lot of popular songs in their original ranges; if female contralto would mean your voice is lower than most girls

>>16265897
but i dont wanna be lower i hate this and i sound weird singing all songs regardless
i would post a sample so people could tell me if its SOVL or just bad but i have to wait for a day when no one is around

I want to translate stuff for JP vtubers. Not as a clipper, but as someone that provide youtube subtitles. How do I get their attention?
Is there a good guide to make subtitles?

>>16266929
Start out using only clips from the biggest streamers and then work your way down. Any Youtube guide can teach you how to do subtitles though, just pick one that goes with the editing software you use.

>>16265897
>tenor means you can sing a lot of popular songs in their original ranges
Hahahahahahaha

>>16267767
okay this was partially a cope from a bass/baritone who has to sing everything down an octave i apologize

Anyone else getting spaced out views on their hololive app? Just got another 5 days after the last.

>>16267883
Please don't forget us when you've made it.

>>16211839
>https://voca.ro/1bsPgUEGvF9d
So you want to sound gross on purpose?

what does kino mean

>>16268992
its a dogwhistle for the mentally challenged

>>16268992
Comes from "Kinography", means "really good art"