/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Ina is my favorite too, but she's also extremely similar in tone and style to the holojp members, which means she simply has more competition than the rest do.

>>1603995
KFPls, at least bait the hook

>>1603995
https://streamable.com/giut86

>Kiara
Her only 'talent' is being able to speak fluent japanese, which is only a matter of time until the other HoloEN girls catch up
>Gura
She just screams and make cute noises on stream, what the fuck?
>Amelia
She just has an ASMR voice
>Calli
The only one as talented as Ina, she deserves the subs she has

why are deadbeats like this?

>>1604371
Deadbeats are Calli fans, newfag.

>>1604387
>doesnt know deadbeats are behind /vt/ psyops
whos the new fag here

>>1604222
I guess so, I just wish people would value Ina's talents more. I think she's so much better than the others except maybe Calli. It really makes me sad seeing her being surpassed by fucking Kiara and being at the bottom of HoloEN when it comes to subscribers.

I really like Ina but i am not exactly compelled to watch her streams. we just have different tastes.

>>1604387
this>>1604458
there is a skeleton inside every one of us except takodachis

>>1604635
Yeah, you have a shitty taste.

>>1604298
Context?

>>1604949
she announces the first ever vtuber onlyfans

>>1605013
Holy shit, sick bastard. Ina is pure, never sexualize her ever again, bastard.

>>1603995
Ina is hurt by filling the comfy niche. You're not gonna get a mass of EN viewers by being comfy. You get them by having meme-able moments, being loud/obnoxious, and playing interesting games, all of which Ina doesn't do (notice that Gura, Ame, and Kiara all have those traits I mentioned). Ina's strengths are moreso geared towards generating a more loyal fan base (which I believe is true: there are so many Ina threads on this board). Think of Ina as the Flare of EN: she's hella comfy and she is definitely more talented than others in her gen, but is held back because of the comfort and game choice. It'll take her being more outgoing and better games in order for her to go up in subs (like Flare has)

Why are KFPs like this?

>>1605191
anon-chama... the quiet ones are the worst ones.

>>1603995
Everyone talks about the male debuff but Ina has the biggest debuff of them all.

She's Korean.

A true Takofren would understand Ina isn't after empty numbers. This is low-quality bait. Begone....

>>1604644
She's got a cuttlebone inside her, if you know what I mean

>>1603995
Ina doesn't cares about numbers. Why do you?

>>1605352
A comfy korean woman working for the japanese, literally what could go wrong?

>>1605252
Ina is the one that plays the most interesting games:
>Lobotomy Corporation
>Hollow Knight
>Puyo Puyo Tetris 2
>Mahjong Soul
>A Hat in Time
>Splatoon 2
>Portal 2
>Half Life 2
>Sakuna of Rice and Field
>Hades
I would say only Ame plays games as interesting as Ina's.

>>1605252
To add onto what I wrote, she also does whatever the fuck she wants since this isn't her only source of income. She doesn't play the games of the moment or play popular games period (what's the most popular game she's played outside of Minecraft? Splatoon? Hollow Knight?). She doesn't go out of her way to do things that generate subs because she doesn't have to and I honestly don't think she cares about the sub count. She just wants to do what she wants and interact with folks. However, this is the reason why a lot of us love Ina.

In short, the very things we love about Ina are what's holding her back from being much higher in sub count. So ask yourself takodachis: Would you be okay with Ina changing if that meant her getting more subs? If the answer is no, then you gotta accept that she'll always be on the lower end of the subs

>>1605352
How's that a debuff? Perhaps if you're a retarded 2channer.

>>1605463
theres nothing wrong with being a 2channer, but theres a lot wrong with being a filthy dog eating korean

>>1605432
I agree that those are good games, but are they good games for a casual EN stream viewer? For the most part, no.

>>1605463
Because you get no JOP subs

>>1605432
It's a goddamn shame that retards in the chat and the game itself caused Ina to drop Half-life. I think if she played through it, it would have generated subs for her.

>>1605555
She didn't drop it? She beat Half Life 2...

>>1605555
>retards in the chat
What happened?

>>1605620
I could be misremembering, but I know she dropped the series as a whole.

>>1605639
I believe there was a lot of backseating going on during a few streams. Also, during one stream some big name Half Life streamer showed up and chat went off the rails because he was a big name and he was breaking the rules by having convos with other people in chat. Ao-Chan banned him as a result. This incident is the whole reason Ao-Chan posts reminders to view the rules when Ina is streaming.

>>1605712
Not exactly, she said at the end of Half Life 2 that she needed to take some time from it and read some of the lore to understand the game better and perhaps replay it at some point at her own time. It was clear she didn't appreciate it that much, but we don't know for sure if she dropped the series definitely.

What I like about Ina is that she finishes almost all the games she starts. It's unfortunate to me that she played Lobotomy Corporation for only 3 stream, but I know it's a really long game and probably a little too high IQ for the average watcher of vtubers, I just hope she finished it on her own time.

>>1605789
I wanna add that the Half Life streamer then got flamed hard on Twitter. I took a bit of enjoyment from that because while I don't enjoy white knighting, the guy was being a bit of a dick during the stream. I mean jesus christ read the fucking rules people!

>>1605911
What did he do exactly? And how was he flamed? Holy, can't believe I missed that.

>>1603995
She only streams 2-3 hours and Kiara streams 4-6 hours. Ina is lazy.

>>1605866
>It was clear she didn't appreciate it that much, but we don't know for sure if she dropped the series

Ah I see. I interpreted her not appreciating it as her not liking it. Thanks for clarifying.

>>1605866
Sometimes I hate chat. During the LC streams they were babying her and preventing her from picking any of the fun yet challenging abnos. I mean sure just make sure she doesn't picks the 0/10 ones like the fucking baby but they were really influencing her to make the game as safe(and boring) as possible instead of letting her fail and learn

>>1605994
People wanna try to get recognized by their idols through backseatting, unfortunately it's a problem that will never fade as long as those retards continue to exist.

>>1603995
A real takodachi is not a numbrefag

>>1606119
If they get low numbers they get dropped by Cover, you fucking retard. Do you want that? Do you want Ina to graduate?

I wish all KFP posters were banned, including OP.

>>1606165
I'll start to worry if Cover ever actually does that to any of its female talents.

>>1605789
Sorry for my newfaggotry, but who's Ao-chan?

>>1606196
>muh kfp
why are takokunts like this?

Ina's chat mod (who is the book that she carries).

>>1606238
because we can

>>1605965
Just by announcing his presence alone caused people to freak out and divert their attention to him. And he fed that by interacting with other people in chat and starting convos while Ina was still streaming (this was breaking one of the stream rules). I also believe he may have made a remark about how Ina played but my memory is hazy on if that happened or not. All in all, he treated Ina's chat like a Twitch chat.

He got flamed because a lot people called him out on it on Twitter, essentially calling him an attention whore. He then sent a tweet where he bitched about the white knighting and getting banned but got flamed more to the point he deleted the tweet. After a while, he said he wanted to apologize to Ina because he learned about the rules and was asking how to get into contact with her (which is fucking retarded because he can just DM her. This makes me think he wasn't genuine at all and just wanted people of his back). He then said he won't be coming back to a Hololive stream.

>>1606221
Ao-chan is Ina's chat mod. Canonically it's the book she carries. Ao-chan (the chat mod) has been with her since day 1 but has only made it's presence know after the Half-Life incident.

>>1606165
>If they get low numbers they get dropped by Cover
First, she is not going to get dropped by cover for her numbers because she has good numbers
Second, she has more subs than 18 of the jp girls
Third... for god's sake holostars exist
This is just a retarded thread

>>1606283
Holy shit, what a fucking retard. Do you remember who it was? I hate when people feel entitled to announce their presences in places they weren't even called at.

>>1606339
KFP is just looking for a boogieman, so they decided to prop up a strawman.

>>1606402
This thread is pretty much a bait made by a retard to falseflag
So I claim this thread as an Ina love thread!

>>1604387
Hi newfag I dare you to engage at global thread and see if you can keep up with them.

>>1606402
i love seeing the tako vs kfp tard contest, keep it up

>>1606339
Of course she isn't gonna get dropped by Cover. Before the Taiwan Incident, the rrat was that Ina's other gig would be an avenue for Cover to connect with other gacha artists. I don't think that's changed even after the Taiwan incident.

>>1606366
I don't remember who it was because why would I want to remember retards? All I remembered was that after I googled searched him he was some generic internet white boy from Australia.

Lmao at those complete imbeciles calling me a KFP, I fucking hate Kiara.

>>1604387
Bait?

>>1606507
I like this idea. This thread is already starting to go off the rails so let's take it further! Plus all the Ina concernfags will surely make their way here so it's totally doable!

INA LOVE THREAD

>>1606516
I honestly hope the newfag does. It'll be great entertainment.

>>1604458
>>1604644
>>1606516
>>1606595
>>1606641
Why don't you mentally disabled retards explain what you mean exactly instead of keeping this pathetic circlejerking as if you're enlightened for knowing about something that only happens on one board on 4channel? This is peak lack of self-awareness right here, fucking morons.

>>1606736
kek

>>1606736
sorry about that

>>1605524

They’re good, but plenty are bad for streaming. Lobotomy Corporation is one of my favorite series', and I enjoy it, but the raw gameplay is pretty bad content.

The sequel is incredible and probably good for streams, but streamers probably won’t play it without having to slog through gameplay of the first one beforehand.

Ina LOVE
https://streamable.com/xcj34e

>>1606577
Found him: https://twitter.com/jollywangcore

>>1606825
His apology: https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/jhozcs/a_message_to_fans_of_other_content_creators/

kek

Race? Numbers? Baits?

Just relax and enjoy the show bros...

>>1603995
Ina did nothing wrong so do Kiara...

>>1607285
Kiara clearly doesn't like Ina.

100% probability a KFP wrote this.

>>1607651
gool rrat

>>1607793
Retard.

>>1603995
She makes a lot more content (181 video uploads vs Ina's 144), does more collabs, and makes a wider variety of content. I like Ina more too but a very large percentage of her streams are drawing streams which don't draw as many views as some other types.

>>1608289
How many videos do the others have?

>>1608385
Gura: 127
Ame: 220
Callie: 163

The outlier there is obviously Gura, but she has other reasons for being on top. Callie gets bootstrapped with her music, and her gap moe thing captivates a lot of people. Ame works really, really fucking hard on her channel which should be obvious by the number of videos.

All she has to do is get permission to play Kingdom Hearts on stream and let her autism about the series out. Then she will spike in followers especially if it coincides with the PC release.

>>1608587
Lol Gura doesn't even try and has 2,3 million subs.

>>1608587
Amelia is a fucking tryhard.

>>1603995
Kill yourself KFPhaggot

>>1608738
You're asking a lot from Square Enix. Remember this is the company that took over a decade to make FF15. Also, since there are Disney characters, you may have to deal with Disney and that seems like a massive pain

>>1608738
No one will play that shit on the epic store.

>>1608944
kfp here, can confirm it was me

>>1608942
Son, on what planet is that a negative?

>>1609110
Anon, you're on the internet and on 4chan no less. You think half of the schizos here appreciate hard work? They don't even try to wipe the cum from their stomachs after they've nutted to their favorite 2D waifu.

>>1609110
She tries too hard to be the most famous, that is just pathetic just like her

>>1608005
Case in point

>>1603995
Find the answer in Kiara hate thread, numberfag. They're planning to break the chicken on mil day.

So as someone who doesn't subscribe to either, I'll say that Kiara is more fun, I enjoy watching her more than any of the other EN girls, she feels like the only one actually trying to be an active hololive member by having a variety of content, a lot of interaction with viewers, and doing collabs. Seriously who though hiring girls that didn't know enough Japanese to collaborate with the main branch would be a good idea? At least supply them all with lessons, Cover. Still Kiara has the massive debuff of being a whiny white woman while Ina is more chill and less "offensive" and definitely the most worthy of being my oshi. Still, its easy to see even with my narrow view of fans on /vt/ and youtube that holoEN has some serious tribal issues, most fans seem to like one girl for their unique role and tolerate or ignore the rest

Is the HoloEN fanbase completely full of spergy children like you?

>>1608942
Ame actually *likes* streaming, unlike the other 2.

>>1609276
How do they get theirs into their jars then?

>>1605352
>>1605463
pretty crazy how this kind of thing is just completely normalized in japan. could never get away with this in the states.

disclaimer ogey

>>1609698
Look at the top content-creators in the west and tell me if you think the western YouTube audience is full of mature, well-adjusted adults. At least anime avatars act as a little bit of filter

>>1606736
Lurk moar
all me btw

>>1603995
The question should be: how the fuck did chicken let Ina surpass her, even in a short period of time? Even as a takodachi I find it hilarious.

>>1609827
Probably has to do with the shadowban desu

>>1609827
for the first 4 months or so Ina was well beyond Kiara. Then Kiara started leeching off of Moei and the JPs and doing memeshit videos

>>1610794
Mori*

>>1610794
Makes me wish Ina would just get off her ass and kill the chicken for good. She just needs to actually TRY.

>>1610835
Ina trying would go against why takodachis love her: she does whatever the fuck she wants and is chill as fuck doing it.

>>1610835
Kiara can haveher pity 4th place, not like that would make her any happier

>>1603995
Um, they have been pretty much even for months.

Too lazy to look... what was their last 1-1 collab?

>>1603995
im asking myself the same thing

>>1603995
She has a long way to go indeed. She needs to overtake Gura and Mori first before she can even dream of reaching Kiara's level.

t.KFP

At least Gura plays games unlike the others. Even if she's not as skilled she still plays more than the others do. Get on her level.

>SUBSSUBSSUBSSUBSSUBSSUBSSUBSSUBS
A day in the life of a Takodachi

used tens of my google account to sub to her including the one i used for my college project

>>1613185
Honestly, Kiara is a fucking natural at milking simps. I don't watch her regularly, but the bits and snippets I caught were pretty impressive. She seems to memorize the names of all her big donors so now they use their akas to give her their fucking live updates and she then goes all "wow, thanks for the update, [username], I was so worried about you!". You can call her a slut or attention whore or whatever, but you can't deny that girl puts in the fucking WORK.

>>1603995
Who cares, unlike Kiara Ina isn't a complete mental wreck on the verge of a breakdown if someone has bigger numbers than her so she'll be fine.

Ina streams at times conductive to Europeans and the East Coast which isn't good for Americans/Canadians off the East coast who have day jobs & her streams are in the middle of the night in Japan so that audience is a no go

>>1603995
>>1604599
>>1606165
>>1606581
>>1613185
>>1613416
Meds, Ina doesn't care about your numberfagging. Leave her in peace.

>>1614410
>Backseating what Ina cares about or not
Holy shit, you retards reaches a whole new level.

>>1614603
looks like this one needs a stronger dose.

Alls well that ends well

>Numberfagging takodachis
Do you guys even watch her?

>>1613185
GO OKAYU GO

>>1615069
OKAYU'S A BITCH

>>1607651
Sure Ina and Kiara did Minecraft private stream before Kiara Collab with Subaru...

>>1616864
That's fake as hell from Kiara.

>>1603995
Cause she is as entertaining as watching bread faggot

>>1603995
I mean she's talented but not very entertaining to watch for most unless you're an artist trying to scope some drawing knowledge.

Ina is fucking boring maybe thats why

boo get better material, oh wait you can't

Quit being fags. The numbers literally mean nothing.

>>1620736
>>1620831
>>1621654
>>1621921
I'm sorry that she isn't a retard without substance and skill that screams during the entire stream and struggle to understand basic concepts of a game. Sorry that Ina is actually intelligent and has actual meaningful content in her channel while being chill and comfy all the time. Not everyone has a good taste I guess.

>>1623647
I mean that's the problem right there. Entertainers have to dance and scream like apes to gather a crowd. She's destined to have a small audience, but maybe that's just fine for someone as chill as Ina.

Any Ina thread that is not wah is made by falseflagger/shitposter/schizo. Fuck all of you. Don't @ me

>>1603995
Ina doesn't care about sub or sc numbers.

>>1624549
I will. Also, the twitter shitposting she did was cute. Ina love.
(She's driving the unity tank fyi)
T. Kfp

>>1624549
@ you what

>>1603995
I don't get how despite constantly getting double the viewers that Kiara gets, Ina is still mostly tying with her on the subs department. In the 6 month collab stream Ina had the second most live viewers while Kiara had the least.
Are KFP just botting Kiara?

>>1630005
Ina fans are very loyal.

>>1630005
Kiara does a lot of sub baiting. Like hardcore strats.
>Karaoke till X milestone
>Single POV collabs to funnel all views and subs to her channel
>Constant pity baiting
>pinning messages on reddit to get traffic
>collab with anything that moves
>several redebuts

Those are great ways to gain subs fast, but not to have astable viewerbase, which is why she has tons of solo streams barely breaking 3k live views. People no longer watch her channel for Kiara, but for the current person she is collabing with.
Meanwhile, Ina just streams by herself and keeps a healthy and constant viewerbase that orbits 10k, regardless of how many subs she gets.
If amything, it's a real shame how despite her best efforts, Kiara can't beat Ina in subs

>>1606507
>>1606614
As someone who only watches JP, Ina would be the HoloEN I would watch if you made me choose.

>>1630953
i find it hilarious that chicken shits her guts out to pull new people into her stream and barely manages to get ahead of that single holo en that doesn't give a shit and just wants to have fun

>>1630953
Lmao you Kiara antis are pathetic

>>1631031
both of those is me

Attention, Kiara as officially surpassed Ina in subs as of today. She has 860k while Ina has 859k. We lost Inabros...

>>1631271
Who says inabors?

>>1631271
it's all ogre

>>1631280
WE FUCKING LOST, IT'S FUCKING OVER, I'M DROPPING INA...

>>1631271

nice try falseflagger. Takos don't care about numbers.

>>1631376
>Takos don't care about numbers
>Constantly comes back to this thread to check if Ina's still winning or not

>>1631433
See >>1606507
Ina love thread

Gonna masturbate to Ina now.

>>1620140
how is it fake?

>>1631933
She's faking liking Ina, she must have been burning with rage that Ina had more subs than her at that moment.

>>1632164
damn, who burned this anons brain?

>>1632397
KFP retard

>(Deleted)

>[Deleted]
damn what a fucking schizo

Why do you antis refuse to give Kiara credit? Kiara was 100k subs behind and had to fight to catch up. Streaming in JP primetime against stronger competitors. EU has proven to be a vocal minority; they talk a lot but steaming in EU primetime is middling at best. No one performs well in EU hours.

>>1633936
Ina pulls 10K on EU consistently

>>1633936
Why do KFPs have such an inferiority complex? kek

Cuck mod made this thread autosage, fucking retarded inafag.

>>1603995
I never thought I'd be able to use this image again.