/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>16221647
just back to pre-december 2021 CCVID. They still apply the old culls, which are smaller than the massacre we were seeing recently

>>16221732
>No bumps like Ina
GO RRAT GO

>>16222034
Ina was seeing 100 viewer bumps every 3 minutes

>>16222034
weird bumps are pretty much exclusive to Ina, but I wouldn't discard their channels being flagged different, after all, they were made after the HIVid that EN got in 2020

The fixed their shit faster than expected

So the numbers are fixed?

>>16222144
>>16222148
*reverted to dec. 2021 state

I'm still holding back my cum, at least until today peak hour

Where were you during the numberscaust bros? When Susan was slaughter us in droves? When innocent chuubas were brutally subjugated and made into 2views? When no one could get 10k? When the nijikeks invaded and threatened to take the gold with Mahjong?

I was right there with my oshi, holding the fucking line.

>>16222034
>Higher than last month for same stream
So even the 2020 one reverted and Ina just escaped both?

So, I noticed before the cull that while logged out I count as a viewer only if I disable adblock. However if I was logged in, I counted regardless of whether I had adblock on or off. After getting culled I'm showing up again, but now it seems the presumably intended effect is happening, that is, I get counted while logged in only if I disable adblock.

what were the numbers pre ccvid for morning rat?

Bae Coffee and Chill
4.6k / ongoing
3.6k / 6 days ago
2.8k / 26 days
6.3k / 2 months
4.2k / 3 months
4.5k / 4 months
8.3k / 7 months

>>16222383
2.8k peak for this

>>16222383
>>16221732

>>16222383
4-5k lone
3k with overlap

>>16222358
So tell me, chumkek
Was it really that bad?

>>16222406
>7 months
exqueeze me? Council is not 7 months old

>>16222382
And by "before the cull" I mean during the cull but before I got culled myself. Also, tabbing out doesn't seem to affect things regardless of whether I post here or however many I open.

>>16222367
I bet that there was another cull around mid-2021 that /#/ missed because it was busy shitposting about reclines. If fighting the Japanese cryptoscam streams had this much collateral damage, how much did removing the English SpaceX cryptoscams do?

our jp bros wont stab us in the back right? gura held the line and kept holo with golds during their darkest hours... please... dont turn your back on us

This isn't a perfect fix but... I'll concede to the JP bros this once. The slaughter was too harsh.

>>16222406 (me)
She started to read superchats from old streams...

The peak for this stream is 4,733.

>>16222452
Gura is the only one that never went under 10k during the CCVID, so not too bad.

>2021 cull that affected JPs the worst got reversed but the 2020 cull that effected mainly EN is still around

Just another drop in the bucket of how decedent Westerners are compared to Asians. Multinational tech companies are absolutely terrified of pissing off East Asians, but don’t lose any sleep at night over westerner bitching.

>>16222456
That was a typo. Her highest coffee&chill was 8.38k 5 months ago

>>16222456
5 MONTHS

lol

>>16222554
Coffee and Chill used to mean "zatsudan", now it just means "superchat reading"

>>16222572
There is Toya too but him only streamed two times.

>last precull asakoyo
10.1k, 9.7k now.
>last precull coffee and chill
2.8k -> 4.7k and growing

I think things might be okay.

>>16222594
what you talking about, major companies are scared of a group of 5 hippies repeatedly calling them

?

>>16222688
she's reading superchats

we'll know if the numbers are really back if all of council's new year's outfits are over 50k

>>16222382
I'm not a viewer if I'm logged in, even without adblock
And I'm one when I'm incognito even with adblock on, even if I have the same stream opened in the normal window
It's fucking retarded

>>16222688
look at the time anon, she switched to supacha reading

>>16222688
she switched to superchat reading, the drop is normal

>>16222688
Takes you less time to click on the stream and see "Superchat reading" than to take a screenshot and post it here.

>>16222144
The fact that they fixed their shit at all is unexpected.

>>16222382
I will test it too later

>>16222688
CCVid really left a mark on this anon. Worse than an holocaust survivor

>>16222830
>views go down for superchat readin
OY VERY ITS ANUDDA CULL

gura sister...our dream is fucking over and shattered by youtube...

>>16222665
More like companies are run directly by those hippies.

While they fixed this cull, I worry there may be others to come.

>>16222914
kek

>>16222914
christ this got me good

>>16222554
Actually at 4.8k

>>16222934
They will just flag people at a lower rate across the board to make it looks more like a natural decline
The AI is learning

Beautiful. Back to normal numbers.

>>16223003
As long as it doesn't increase exponentially like this one.

I wonder how much of a victory Koyori getting 9.7k is. She was getting 7k on these before the cull so is it a different algorithm or a roll back.

Pinky puffy cunny>brown loose pussy
Gura stil mog jp whores

>>16223003
>They will just flag people at a lower rate across the board to make it looks more like a natural decline.
Will /#/'s be smart enough to point it out if that were to happen?

>>16223079
Let's see how many viewers the cryptoscams get.

The only way to counter slow artificial decline is through explosive inclining.

>>16223079
It was probably people checking out the fixed numbers.

>>16222709
They should fixed before myth outfits reveal in the first place. Oh well

Baelz's stream watch time is 7 min/view
Still not good

not like this watamage...please, cast another mischievous spell on these heretics who made a mockery of the sheep...we CAN'T return to what was before

>>16223144
It's a zatsu

>>16222914
People still believing in artificial caps instead of accepting that streams don't incline indefinitely lmao

>>16223092
>Pinky puffy cunny
>gura
her pussy is darker than risu's brown nipples

>>16223170
The sheep has taught the numberniggers a lesson. Pray she does not teach it again.

>>16223092
I say FIGHT. HoloJP vs HoloEN!

2022/01/11 5:405:50

Nijien
Ike 17702080 [1.17]
Selen 11801880 [1.59]
Lica 13401580 [1.17]
Elira 9301330 [1.43]
Reimu 410620 [1.51]

Nijijp
Axia 11402300 [2.01]
Hayama 10502040 [1.94]
Wara 7301890 [2.58]
Chigusa 3901400 [3.58]

Vspo
Runa 4001710 [4.27]
Nazuna 4501410 [3.13]
Beni 280840 [3.00]

Other
Shibuya HAL 14003800 [2.71]
Kson 11302700 [2.38]
Pakael 110 -> 220 [2.00]

>>16223223
Formattingchama

Rrat 5K get

The rrat still has too high likes compared to live viewers, she's still culled.

>>16222709
Like hell we do. Council is a terrible baseline for numbers because they barely stream, and when they do their numbers are wildly inconsistent. Even HoloX has a much better barometer of what we can expect from them at this point.

>>16222594
Nah, the big difference is that people had a really hard time convincing people that the 2020 cull was real because it was only observed with HoloEN and select HoloJPs with cull rates in the 10-40% range (other HoloJPs inclined in that time period). It also seems like the 2020 cull was partly driven by culling people with multiple streams open and by an adblock handling change, so it was probably also harder to convince people that the changes were actually bad. CCVID is much easier to convince people of when nearly everyone is getting murdered by 50-80% in the middle of an apparent industry incline, and the only apparent factor was that individual accounts got AI tagged somehow.

>>16223300
Better than before which was struggling to hit 3K in Minecraft.

>>16222406
This is the third highest Coffee and Chill on record. Not bad rrat, not bad.

IRyS will break 10k tonight. If it break 20k EN fags will have to knell.

>>16223223
>those ratios for vspo
jesas, they were getting fucking slaughtered

Say who is the real KING

ITT: People finally noticing the 2020 cull.

>>16223332
IRyS is EN

>>16223300
I checked on some 0 view streamers and my account is still being culled. Probably the same for other people.

>>16222554

>>16222934
They will cull EN vtubers specifically again, and nobody will care.

>>16223223
I don't understand

>>16223257

>>16223300
It's how EN has been ever since the 2020 cull, the likes are always much higher than what you would expect in a "normal" stream.

>>16223427

VSPO BROS!

>>16223223
so not much culling for nijihomos? I wonder if that is a symptom of them actually being a distinct audience vs the usual vtuber fans

>>16223427
christ JPs were fucking massacred

>>16223379
You can still complain and they will reply to you

>>16223451
how many times are you gonna repeat this
bae didn't even exists in 2020

Is there going to be any post directed at the catalog annoucing the victory and the end of the
latest 2021 Culling?

>>16223332
>If it break 20k EN fags will have to knell.
to uh...themselves?

>>16223322
Seethingchama, don't you have another catalog bait thread to make?

>>16223342
They always knew it. But even now, they will pretend that nothing happened in 2020 and it all started only in 2021 and is now over.

>>16223495
Because it's the truth, and i was talking about EN in general not just Bae.

>>16223427
also regular streaming comparison
>Koyori 15009700 [6.47]

>>16223223
Pajeet must really hate someone at VSPO

5.2k is abnormally high for this sort of stream. Maybe rat inclined during the ccvid era.

>>16223280

>>16223603
my poor pink coyote...

Rrat poll time

POLL ON BAE

>>16223322
still outfit reveals are a big thing and even if you could argue council is a flop overall at least kronii or mumei should be able to hit 100k easily if the cull really has been fixed. That's why I'm putting 50k as a baseline on where the less popular of council should be able to get. I'll also accept sub-50 ish seeing how kiara's party outfit only got 48k

>>16223633
Or maybe CCVID was in effect much earlier than we thought but nobody noticed.

>>16223687
>should be able to hit 100k easily if

>>16223691
I still think that there were more anti-scam stream culls during 2021 that was buried in shitposting. EN's CCV decline never fully matched their YouTube search trends

I just saw the poll votes go down, polls are being culled!

HoloEN fans sure do love hitting that like button.

>>16222144
>>16222148
>>16222785
Thank you, Mumei!

>>16223603
You all laughed at pink koyote, while she was pulling 10k for a generic morning zatsu in a shitty timeslot all this time.
Apologize.

>>16223603
HoloX got absolutely decimated. That's an 85% cull.

>>16223603
>6x

jesas

>3k in 2min
seems better than last time

still insane engagement

>>16223342
Because hlg and /#/ have always been largely populated by JP shills and Myth antis. Hence why CCV is heralded as the gold standard because Myth stomps its contemporaries in every other metric.

>>16223747
So I wasn't being a schizo when I saw the poll numbers go down...

>>16223770
I kneel to the number owl

>>16223747
WHAT THE FUCK

>>16223789
>YouTube trained their new anti-bot AI on new channels that spiked in viewers to mid 5-digits like the cryptoscams during November/December, catching HoloX debut audience in the crossfire.

Votes are being culled

rat poll

>>16223187
This. A lot of the streams recover more than their waiting room numbers, they're just being verified to filter bots. And of course there's a ceiling, it's called their number of viewers.

Engagement obviously high but it's not the absurd shit we were seeing on previous polls.

1 min, 2207 votes
2 min, 3034 votes

Not as retarded as before.
But in the past, her CCV would be like 2.8k for this stream so it'll look super fucked.

>>16223799
>Hence why CCV is heralded as the gold standard
it's not, we are just too lazy to try other things

Much more realistic numbers, but still a very high ratio.

>>16223691
The last big update was Dec 13th so it isn't unreasonable to think that update had this in it.
>>16223836
Still ridiculous but not nearly what it was before.

>>16223799
>Myth stomps its contemporaries in every other metric.
Subs and???

>>16223223
what do the numbers mean

>>16223747
>>16223801
we predicted this lol

Another data point coming up. Lamy was also someone who had a 70%+ cull. 2k waiting room right now.

I think Hololive just has good engagement, so the cull looked extra fucked because of it

>>16222406
5.5k CCV get for rrat. This is her 2nd highest chat since debut.

>>16223927
wamy...

>>16223890
Myth number fags like to clone Gura 4 times and say that is all of myth.

rrat seems fairly okay, likes ccv and poll numbers all within logical numbers

Wamy's about to stream ARK at 2.1k waiting room. It's ARK at 9 in the morning, but let's see if she can clear her waiting room.

>5,412 watching
>5,173 votes in 5 minutes

People would absolutely kill for these engagement metrics

>>16223951
3rd, whoops.

>>16223799
ccv is the only metric that's even fun to compare though

subs are boring because nobody could ever compete with gura, and who's gonna get hype waiting 2 days for vod views/superchats to be verified

>>16223751
Also typing comments. Look at the monthly unique chatters graph. High engagement for EN.

>>16223927
It's Ark though, hard to say what normal numbers for that should look like.

>>16223932
its still suspect but not as bad as the last week.
nearly 100% engagement in 5 mins is engagement people would kill for

>>16223959
Just like council number fags clone Sana 4 times and say that is all of council.

>>16223988
Not sub 1k like some of her other streams.

APOLOGIZE TO MYSTA HOLOBRONIES. He was being culled hard yesterday. Her votes are nowhere near his in the same timespan despite having more viewers.

5 mins, 4762 votes
6 mins, 5173 votes
- 5264 votes at close

Not mega fucked like before, but 5264/5450 = 96% viewer participation in 6 minutes.
The CCV is probably still off, but at least it's not nearly as bad as before.

>>16223770
My post didn't age well...
Gomenasai Susan

>>16224015
>pre fix vs post fix
Okay retard.

>>16223747
>>16223801
>I just saw the poll votes go down, polls are being culled!
I hope someone recorded that

So RRAT had a poll with 5200 in like what 10 minutes(?) to CCV around 5400 no way it's accurate but close to pre CCVID21 levels I guess

>>16224015
isnt this the 40min poll?

>>16224015
Not everyone was culled the same, NijiEN boys were affected the least. >>16223427

You absolute fools. You dumb numberfags, you fell for Susan's trick. The harsh culling was obviously a move so you take this post-culling situation as "normal". It's like a man asking for something big before asking his original goal. You got tricked.

Wamy recovered extremely fast, it has taken the EN's more than 10 minutes

>>16222830
https://files.catbox.moe/v3gzav.mp4
don't joke about the holocaust...

>>16224094
6 mins

>>16223799
>Myth is 5 Gura clones
Every time. Ina has lower VOD views than Towa.

Lamy room
2.5k
~3 minutes recovery

>>16223144
10.2 min/view

SCs in December were insane. Probably due to HoloX's monetization but other members are up by a lot.

The strangest thing happened. I was listening to Suisei and autoplay directed me to The Last Frontier of AZKi's channel! And then on to Watame! Is the algorithm finally noticing them?

>>16224196
just like all JP's is just pekora am i right bros

>>16223831
HoloX confirmed for cryptoscammers.

>>16224132
>flagging will happen at a lower rate across the board to make it like a natural decline
this is the future we chose

I think the only thing that CCVID helped us realize, is that some memebers we're culled before all of this happened, not only EN but some JPs too

Lamy's waiting room was at 2.5k right before the stream. Took her around 3 minutes to recover her waiting room number. Her CCV gain is also fairly healthy instead of hovering between +/- 5 and 10 users every update. I guess we're back to pre-2021 level.

are we back bros? Rrat has 5k on a zatsu

>>16224242
How is Chloe not number 1? She's not even on the list.

>>16224162
Look at this sheeple...he really believes 6 million VODs gone...just like that...

>>16224242
Iroha and Chloe are missing from this list

prev. Ark stream
never got past 2.7k despite being the first stream

>>16224242
Why are chloe and iroha missing from this ?

>>16224061
>polls are being culled
That's something new, isn't it?

>>16224015
are you retarded?

>>16224275
What's even the point of this? To make it look like being popular in YouTube is easier? Or is it to make their poached Twitch streamers look good?

>>16224306
Playboard doesn't think she's a vtuber, same with Iroha. She got $277,927 and Iroha got $201,945. I only posted the vtuber ranking and not the 'all' rankings.

Gura...save us...!

>>16224324
haha, Capcom would never do that, right? look how friendly they are with Mio and Hololive.

>>16224242
Iroha and Chloe aren't counted as vtubers so they aren't on this list

>>16224384
Holobronies were claiming Mysta was not being culled yesterday

>>16224357
to save rindou dignity

>>16224015
Can anyone confirm if the Mysta poll pic is real?
I can't find it in the old threads (only the 30 mins one with 12k votes) and there's no way no one posted this if they got a pic right?

>>16224427
Take Holox off the list and it is still impressive.

>>16224427
>277k
jesus christ

>>16224396
both will make them look good, they don´t have enough bough streamers to make a difference on their own, they will need to hold until they cover most of the "types" of streamers, they only have variety and fps right now

>>16224483
*make them look bad
I need to sleep

>>16223890
Only Gura and Mori, though. A-chan bumped off Ame and is sicking Rushia on her. Miko and Haachama are still holding off Ina, and Suisei is bound to pass Kiara, with Okayu not far behind.

>Nobody biting the samefagging schizo
I'm proud of you, numberbros

>>16224421
We took very good care of the wolf. You're welcome.
t. Capcom

>>16224443
no they were saying the cull was much smaller for some, which you just managed to prove

mommy...bros...

Lamy 5k get

>>16223997
>>16223997
>>16224260
That is typically how it works in /#/, yes. EN=Gura, JP=Pakora, Counsel=Sana

Lamy at 5k with Ark in 10 minutes. An achievement I say.

>>16224015
Congrats, he's now being hit at the same rate as all the other EN chuubas working for a JP company.
If you want to see true numbers, we have a long way to go, bro.

>>16224591
they're so nice that they gave Mio a different design for their collab.
this outfit is sex. I hope Mio gets a witch outfit in the future.

so bets that /#/ will devolve into CCV is king until susan decides to fuck that metric again and then have another meltdown?

>>16224623
ARK VOD numbers have been very good despite all the doomposting about ARK.
Maybe we'll see the real numbers tonight.

I'm excited for Pekora's numbers if she'll stream today. I think this will be an easy 10K-15K get for her.

>>16224601

Growing way faster than her first time playing it and on a worst timeslot

>>16224623
Lamy had an 80% cull on her before

Kiara incline.

it's a checkmark...

>>16224619
nijijp kuzuha
nijien reimu

I was supposed to stop being a numberfag...
Why did you do this to me Susan...

>>16224696
It's 700 away from being the 2nd biggest Coffee and Chill stream she's ever done. The biggest was during debut week.

>>16224725
i was about to watch streams...

finally silverboi will be back as silverboi

>>16223890
Views? Likes? Subs and views are the two most important YT metrics by far. CCV doesn’t mean jack shit for judging popularity or profitability when livestream are adfree beyond the point when you first click on them. Literally just a contest of being able to attract the most viewers at a single point in time without the benefits that something like an ad filled live event like the super bowl generates from doing that, which uniques favors JPs who’s fanbases are largely concentrated in an East Asian timezone as opposed to EN who’s fanbase is far more spread out.

>>16224242
>vtuber category

>it's the EN vs JP timeloop again
nature is healing...

>>16224856

>>16224878
>$100k doesn't get you in the top 10
What a month.

Susan are u okay today?

>>16224878
Kson in a slow month is still 76k

>>16224762
So... they were inclining but susan fucked their numbers? Is susan a secret Nijinigger?

>>16224856
>Subs and views are the two most important YT metrics by far. CCV doesn’t mean jack shit
This.

>Subs culled
>CCV culled
>VOD views culled
We have no idea who's popular.

>6k coffeenchill rrat
wtf these are great numbers

>>16224908
The good ol' war

>>16224856
Cope. They're streamers. CCV is and always will be the best measure of popularity for a streamer.

>>16225010
>the rat was actually inclining behind ccvid

Mommy is at #1

>>16225010
Kiara calling in was like a shot of adrenaline that pushed her from 5500 to 6100.
I haven't seen boosts like that in more than a week.
CCVID managed to kill funneling somehow, but it's back.

>>16225010
It's thanks to Kiara senpai

The EN sawtooth pattern is universal. JP has smooth charts in comparison and also lower waiting room recovery.

>>16225010
The latest incident got them to look into how many viewers non-scam streams were losing and they pulled a bunch of things, not just CCVID, I'd guess.

place your bets /#/ bros!!!!!!

>>16225202
I just want both of them to kill themselves

Numberbros please tell me CCVID is over. I just want to see my oshi incline and get the numbers she deserves.

>>16225021
YouTube isn't about streamers first. It's a site for uploading videos, and streaming is just a side feature. Both videos and streams still get views and both types of channels still get subscribers, so those are the metrics they look at, and the ones that can be compared to each other as well.

>Lamy Ark 6k
>Bae zatsu 6k
we're fucking back bros. This doesn't slip!!

>>16224721
Remember when NijiEN was Selen? What ever happened to Selenposter?

So it looks like the change was reverted? Just had to wait for developers to get their ass on it after the new year's break

>>16225155
EN is being targeted again.

>>16225202
They end up fucking.

>>16225235
Lamy has 7k viewers playing Ark on the morning, it's over alright

>>16223959
A gen filled with 5 Moris would also adequately mog every other gen. 5 channels with more subs than everyone except Gura, all top in total views, and unlike Gura, all are SC monsters.

>>16225235
it seems like it so far, but we're shell shocked right now so we're still doubting every stream until we make sure

anything to look out for in jp prime time now that its fixed

>>16225155
>>16225281
Probably because of their locations being set to Japan even though they aren't there.

>>16225238
Yes but Hololive are streamers. So CCV is their primary metric. Their VOD views are absolute traah comparee to traditional youtube content creators, putting them on that playing field is retarded.

Streamers = CCV
Uploads = Views

>>16225330
Mori struggles to break 10k viewers at the best of times

>>16225345
Mori and Irys still have it though

>>16225258
got humbled I guess.. Mysta has double Selen's viewers and she can't even hit 3k on Apex right now, even Vox beats her in CCV

>>16225330
Suisei dumpstered Mori on channel views in 2021...

>>16225346
People still watch their videos and subscribe even when they're not streaming, so those still count. Lots of channels even upload non-stream videos often.

>>16225330
what you'd want it just for gura to take a couple of pages out of mori's book when it comes to supers

>>16225395
>MUH CEE
>CEE
>VEE
This thread went right back to being retarded lmao

>>16225337
A Pekora stream would be great but I'd love to see a Miko stream since she was one of chuubas hit the hardest

>>16225467
Lots of people watch Twitch VODs. Doesn't mean they're more important than CCV

>>16225552
Twitch is primarily a streaming site while YouTube is not. There are a lot more people who watch videos and not just streams on YouTube.

>>16225533
>Nooooo you can't measure streamers based on how many people actually watch them that's unfair!

Same game yet the charts look pretty different. Selen's a lot more irregular. She should publish her analytics again to see what exactly is going on now.

>>16225611
Hololive are streamers though so they're closer to Twitch streamers than Youtube creators.

>>16225614

>>16225614
Who said anything about unfair? It's just stupid.

you'd think with gura holding the line for hololive during CCVID they'd give it a day before the classic jp vs en but i guess they were a bit pent up.

All this proves is YouTube is a black box and they can serve up whatever numbers they feel like and creators can eat shit and like it. They were just stupid enough to do it quickly. Change things gradually and they can promote or bury whoever or whatever they want and there’s no data anyone can use to argue with them. Even this debacle was totally opaque. No one knows what happened or why. Cover and the girls would be fools not to setup their backup plans now

>>16225253
The counter seems normal, but we don't know if the cap is still in place
Heavy hitters like Marine and Miko stream is required

>>16225646
left is quick to die
right is entertaining and usually get them champion

>>16224856
CCV is mostly important in the sense that high CCV tends to bring high total views, and the total views bring in the algo and pay. CCV on itself, however, doesnt account for either late vod viewers and people still culled, so it is flawed in the end. But schizos will ignore that for their bait.

>>16225614
Talk about timelooping when the cull is getting stronger for JP/EN LMAO, I just ENschizo is out of shitpost material?

>>16225395
You seem to have accidentally entered in to the middle of a conversation which based wholly on the premise of arguing that CCV is a garbage metric.

>>16225673
Doesn't matter, they're on YouTube.

>8K and still rising for Tuesday morning ARK

BROS? DARE I SAY WE ARE... BACK?

>CCV is back
>Nami-chan struggle to break 1k
what's happen?

>>16225740
That doesn't have anything to do with those constant up and downs Selen has in comparison. Sawtooths are in every EN chart: >>16225155

>>16225710
This.

The problem with CCV is that youtube lies and HoloEN is 10x higher than what's shown.

>numbers are fixed
>ark gets good numbers

>>16223144
Baelz's stream
Average watch time for future reference in case of a new CCVID wave

6.9 min/view @0h39m
10.2 min/view @1h01m
14.2 min/view @1h28m

>>16225816
numberfags went back to their oshi since they are getting numbers again and abandoned namibia-san

>>16225816
oryx bros... we reclined...

anyone got the summary of stream time for HoloEN last week? curious if some of them are holding to their New Years resolutions

>>16225724
This. And no doubt youtube will try to pull shit like ccvid again, but this time "enhanced" by their amazing, always infallible AI. I give it a few months

>>16225614
Talk about timelooping when CCV is hardly a useful metric with all the cull happening in JP/EN, ENchizo is out of shitpost material I guess? LMAO

>>16225710
We get it, you are competitive to the point that losing decreases your testosterone, just stay out of places where you will definitely lose

>>16225793
But they're streamers. You measure the success of streamers by CCV whether they be on youtube, twitch or facebook.

>>16225816
Didn't this stream always vary from 1.5k to 5k depending on the time?

>>16225806
>ARK
No no no go back GO BAAAACKKKK

Today's superchats

>>16225816
I've done a lot of research into this subject and Namibia wasn’t being culled. They are just going through a genuine recline

>>16225462
nigga... Mori passed her entire 5 year old channel in a year and a bit

>>16225860
So you're saying they overcompensated and ended up inflating the numbers?

>>16224282
More like the reverse. JPs getting culled has caused people to learn that EN’s 2020 cull was in fact real and still in place.

>>16225860
and you will like it anon

>>16225724
Yeah, I'm quite certain they just reverted the most recent cull and already back in December 2020 real viewers got culled along with the occasional bot. Now that I've thought about it, I remember there being talk about how Suisei's CCV was tanking despite her being on that game programme with Amemiya and her getting unusually high number of views and subs in the following days as well as new chatters saying they came because they saw her on TV. Back then people reasoned that people probably just watch chuubas for a couple of months and then bail to be replaced by a new batch. Also, she had been streaming infrequently that autumn due to offline events, so it was thought she lost the Ayame buff by streaming too much in December.

>>16225955
she beat herself?

>>16225884
Oh god is this really how retard shitposter makes narratives?

>>16225905
shut up shut up shut up

>>16225962
Bae's stream did better than expected just from an CCVID-fix

>>16224878
>Literally only a single non holo ( / alumnus) in the top 12
The domination is frankly insane. I'm absolutely amazed that YT hasn't bothered to pander to hololive in any way.

>>16225614
>based on how many people actually watch them
that’s the thing though, even after this shitshow we still don’t know what the actual numbers are and probably never will

>>16225905
They're not just streamers since they're on YouTube. Not all their videos are streams and they can still get engagement off of those. Subscribers are something that both streamer and non-streamer YouTubers can get so they should be compared as YouTubers.

>Lami's chart is as smooth as a baby's butt.
>All jagged like a smallpox, Bay's chart.

Only a complete idiot would seriously compare the ccv of EN and JP, it is the same as comparing Holo and Vshojo, different culling conditions apply to them.

>>16225462
lying again hoshikeks?
hows the MK tournament? still crying?

>>16225944
Did the waterhole start drying up again often or something?

>>16226023
They got AI demonetizations reverted in a day for La+ so it's better than last year where Suisei was fucked for an entire month.

>>16226012
This.

>>16223427
Normiebros i kneel

SAY who is the real KING

>>16226040
EN still get btfo if you compare them to normal youtube content creators. You're basically saying we can't judge them by CCV since they're youtubers then you loop around to saying their trash VOD views are beacuse they're streamers....

>>16225860
Pre-cull Lamy's morning stream always been good. 10k-11k

>>16225934
A good day for manjisanji

>>16226074
>EN (Not exclusively hololive, but EN vtubing in general) has been under the effects of a cull for over a year.
>Nobody believed it, because it didn't fit their worldview
>Suddenly JP gets it
>The world burning down, everyone scrambles
>Gets reverted
>"Only JP was culled, EN is still in recline"

>>16226157
My wife.

>>16226137
>(me)
also kson

>>16224553
But you’re still talking about a gen where it’s bottom is trading punches with other gen’s top. Miko, Haachama, Suisui, Rushia, A-Chan? They are the Gura’s and Mori’s of their gens, meanwhile the actual Gura and Mori are traversing territory no JP has been.

>>16225816
Namibia is patient zero and Youtube quarantine it

>>16226196
>Nobody believed it
only new fags don't believe it

wamy over 9000
is it finally over?

>>16225816
Its the dead of night in Namibia. Once the sun comes up the viewership will increase.

>>16226189
>EN still get btfo if you compare them to normal youtube content creators
..how so? Most let's play channels would murder to have their VODs. And why are you bringing non vtuber channels into this numberfagging? Holos reign supreme in neither CCV, subs nor VODs, but they dominate superchats.

>subs is the most important metric

>>16226232
Gura struggles to break 30k while Pekora does it every week

>>16225995
nice grammar, faggot

>>16226196
I thought CCVid should serve as a lesson for people that yt CCV is a completely useless and unreliable metric, but idiots are still going to continue using it despite that.

>>16226296
We musn't be complacent yet. We need to wait for other Holos to stream if it's truly gone.

Before posting and shitting up the thread more, I want to remind everyone that we collectively agreed just last week that youtube CCV is a bullshit number and not worth taking seriously.

>>16226231
You can actually see the exact moment people realized ARK was amazing and it doubled her views. No bug here.

>>16226232
The top Holos ARE their contemporaries. Only Gura and Mori stomp them in subs, the others are competing with the JPs at around the same level.

Gura sis...our dream is fucking ruined by youtube...

>>16226324
Much harder to cull superchats.

>>16226023
It's a lot of money to you or me, but to a company like google this much money is a quarter and two gum wrappers it found underneath the couch cushions. Google also likes leaving everything to an algorithm and hates doing manual interventions for anything.

Jwu is the CCV fixed? So VOD, SC, Subs and likes are now irrelevant again and CCV is the only dependable metric that is worthy?

>>16226324
90% of their VOD views come from people watching the actual stream live which you said was irrelevant...

>>16226307
NamibiaCam doesn't have night vision?

>>16226330
>still trusting CCV
d-did you not learn your lesson from CCVID?

>>16225917
I watched it a bit at night-time during the cull and it got quite consistently 1.7k then.

>>16223770
This is what happens when she doesn’t stream for a day. Last time it was the Bogdanoffs, now CCVID is her latest kill.

stop biting the enschizo baits

>>16226378
gura no gold anymore kek

>>16226347
It has been literally hours since its reverted and we are already back to ardently arguing about how CCV is the end all be all of metrics and the only thing that matters. It's literal cognitive dissonance to be shown that Susan can alter the metrics however she pleases, with no set in stone pattern that applies to all channels, but still think they're reliable.

I-is Rocochi finally gonna break the 1k?

>>16226420
It does but naturally there isn't as much animal activity in the night. Animal activity brings the viewers.

>>16226232
>about a gen where it’s bottom is trading punches with other gen’s t
HOLY SHIT ENKEKS ACTUALLY DELUSIONAL
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
thought u guys just joking around

>>16226332
ENschizo how's the new shitpost material? Got anything new to introduce us?

>>16226327

>>16226368
Yeah, but they are fixed now.

Are there any reasons gura fans being mad about current situation

>>16226422
CCVID is a hoax

>>16226467
My favourites are Okayu, Aki and Pekora.
Nice reading comprehension, faggot.

>>16226368
A special few have been traumatized and mindbroken after seeing their oshi culled to less than 50%

>>16226409
CCV was always just a fake number.

>>16226410
Can't you see how stupid you are? You're basically agreeing that at the end of the day the views on a video are what matters, not the CCV.

>>16226422
Gura was reclining for all of 2021. Unless Youtube was culling her and only her month by month then the numbera are right.

>>16226409
>CCV is the only dependable metric that is worthy?
Yes.

>>16226332
*Nice grammar, faggot.

>>16226471
>they are fixed now.

i don't care if the thread turned into a shithole, im happy bros

Lamy at 9.6k... Koyori got me so close, please finish me off, I need this

>>16226521
nope, this is an image board not a novel. the purpose of grammar is to express spoken word through writing. There are no capital letters in speech.

>>16226513
CCV is what matters. VOD views are an unreliable side effect

>>16225614
Ok, we have a metric for that, it’s called “total views” not concurrent views.

Are we back now bros? 9.6k on ark is pretty good.

>>16226476
Since the CCV is fixed, Gura will no longer get the gold everyday. As a result, her monopoly of being the no.1 VTuber is shaken. This makes chumkeks seethe.

>>16226368
CCVtfaggots have always infested /#/ and have had sticks up their asses.

>ENfags going full VOD cope and damage control over being exposed as shitters again
I love it

>>16226499
>A fucking ESL
Learn and improve your English comprehension, disgusting ESLschizo

>>16226499
>Aki
nice try enfags, there's no vtuber named aki

>>16226557
>There are no capital letters in speech.
>There

>CCVID cured right before IRyS' 6 month anniversary special
Just as planned

We weren't standing for youtube's bullshit. IRyStoCHADS get shit done while you faggots fling shit at each other. We weren't gonna let IRyS see a low number for her big day.

Subs, views, watch hours (combine with avg ccv), SC. For me is this 5 metrics when you combine youtube and streaming. I still feel median peak ccv is good for observing the trends (incline, recline), but still frustrating though because I can't convince myself that it pictures the whole performance.

>>16226558
Wrong

>>16226476
Seems to be the opposite

>>16226507
This. Not every regular viewer of a channel can catch up to the streams live depending on time zones and the person's individual schedule. They still watch the archived videos later.

>>16226633
UK, 1000s of years genetically confirmed of pure white blood.
Cope.

>>16226513
>>16226667
This. CCVtards are so fucking retarded and annoying.

>>16226654
>irystocrats are ccvchads

>>16226678
>1000s of years genetically confirmed of pure white blood.
I can't believe your family hasn't been able to shake illiteracy for so long, aryanschizo

>CCV is fixed just a day before Pekora's birthday
Nothin' personal chumkiddies.

>>16226476
Gura is back to being Pekoras bitch

Well this thread went to total shit once CCVID was cured. I'm gonna ask Susan to bring it back.

>>16226742
I most definitely can read, write and conceptualise my language better than you can buddy.
I would still be better at it if I was slip up the rest of this sentence, because only ESLs try hard to type.

>>16226558
You don't even know what CCV stands for if you typed something this stupid.

WE WON
WE FUCKING WON

>>16226773
based queen usada

>>16226816
>at it if I was slip up the rest of this sentence
pfhhaha

>>16226832
>CCVID cured
>NijiEN still getting shit numbers

>>16224623
>>16224688
ARK is fairly popular for JP as long as a lot of people are playing it. It hits some of the same notes as MC. Ragnarok was massively successful for Hololive.

>>16226855
you played yourself

>>16226820
Concurrent viewers. The number of people who are watching a stream at any point in time. Universally regarded as the gold standard for judging the performance of streamers across all platforms.

VODcope is for losers.

>>16226858
because they weren't as affected heavily? I thought we already established this

Why nips love ark??

>>16226196
Actually, EN serrations were gone for a couple months before the CCVID outbreak. Still wasn't smooth like a baby's butt, but the regular pointy intervals were gone. Compare:

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/kS6nBJzPwlA
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/_dj7QFZT7YU

>>16222406 (me)
Bae Coffee and Chill
6.1k / Today (Kiara buff?)
3.6k / 6 days ago
2.8k / 26 days
6.3k / 2 months
4.2k / 3 months
4.5k / 4 months
8.3k / 5 months

Absolutely based spic in the chat

>>16226885
>VODcope is for losers.
bros, u gonna summon them chumkeks

>ramy 10k

>>16226832
Come on blue Koyori! Get our first new age 10k!

>>16226885
Anon, you dumb fuck. views=/=concurrent views.
You can have someone with rock solid audience but not so solid total views. For example Ina's VODs aren't so hot, but her CCV is very consistent and relatively high.

>>16226832
HAHAHA,Nijisis

>CCVID runs rampant
>threads were decent and filled with discussion and unity
>CCVID gets cured
>thread goes to shit
damn

Time to get fuck nijisis hahaha, holo mogging begins.

Patra's still holding on to the gold as of now.

>>16226948
Views are not CCV retard

WAMY 10K
>WAMY 10K
WAMY 10K
>WAMY 10K

it's back...

Lamy 10k get.

>>16224856
>Likes
>Subs
not even normalfags care about this shit anymore, lol

UOOOOOOOHHH I'M CUMMINGGGGGGGG

>>16226948
>views=/=concurrent views.
>>16226993
>Views are not CCV

Aren't you two just saying the same thing? Why are you arguing?

>>16226958
I think it's the same 3-4 dudes arguing around each other without realizing the CCVtard is just trolling them.

25k stream right here

And so now the number rot begins.

>>16227058
Only one pov?

>>16225646
It's normal to see instances of some consumers not seeing the behaviour changes of server side software changes.
Bugfixes don't magically deploy themselves at all places at the same time with the click of a mouse. And even it was possible, it'd be a risky way to deliver running code.
Her next stream might get hosted with the same ccv counter dependency that's handling Lamy's stream atm.

10k streams are back to the menu boys!

>>16226993
>>16227046
Anon probably doesn't even know what =/= means. He fits perfectly in the numbers thread.

>>16227049
Numbers thread has always used CCV though. Chumbuds are just disappointed they couldn't change the meta

>>16227083
Yes, it's a coaching stream

next patient on the list to take the CCVid vac

Such a relief to see a regular stream from a mid-tier Holo make it onto the chart again, it's been way too long

>>16227058
>number rot slowly creeps in again
25K? These are rookie numbers.
I predict at least 35K for that one.

>>16226930
Bae inclined once people heard her sex voice.

https://youtu.be/25t4RnPtIrw

>Be a working American living in the EST or CTR timezone along with 2/3rds of the population
>Your oshi is any EN except Gura or Ina
“Welp, guess I have to watch the VOD this time! I hope people don’t foolishly assume that just because I didn’t want my Oshi live at its CCV peak that I don’t care!”

Is it really so hard for /#/ to understand why CCV is flawed? The entirety of Japan exists in one timezone, while the US has 4 different timezones excluding Alaska and Hawaii, and it’s even more spread out than that when you include the entirety of the primarily English speaking world.

>>16227049
chumbro... time to let go those fake gold and prepare to be beaten by Kronii and Mumei outfit reveal

>>16227120
Ok then 18k-23k i think.

>yfw 10k back on the menu

>>16227169
cope