/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16204607
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>16203610
I'm just surprised girls watch Rushia and boys watch Mysta. I did hear Okayu say that her members M/F ratio is different than her general ones, men are more likely to member her by a lot.

why is this mysta the new face of bait on this thread anyways? the guy had ONE stream with good numbers and now he's the new kuzuha

Kanae is already in a terminal stage. There's no way the NijiEN dudes aren't getting culled to some degree as well.

>>16204652
I have some numbers for you anon: 8% of people identify as non-heterosexual and a further 12% refuse to answer

So, in an CCVid era when the bloated popularity of Japanese B-tubers has been exposed and they're once again being pushed around by English-speaking ones, what metric will we use to profe that Japanese are better?
VOD medal?

>>16204698
He’s the least affected from the cull which is making him stand out from everyone who is approaching terminal levels of cull.

>>16204652
Not everyone who watches VTubers wants to fuck them. People can just find them entertaining.

>>16204658
Can't expect much without dudes in your stream.

>>16204698
He numberfags.

>16204765
>__cirno_and_gawr_gura_touhou_and_2_more_drawn_by_renpc__sample-e30452c1730b6e2d8838dbae2d44faa6.jpg

>>16204787
Yeah that's why most holo viewers are males

>>16204787
Its like saying people of the opposite sex can be friends, when we know the reality that we would only be friends with a woman if they were ugly

>>16204765
You could always cope like this nip https://twitter.com/vtubelifetrends?s=21

Star, Mumei and Veibae are going up at bottom of the top 100. Koyori and Iroha are just outside at 102 and 103, ready to jump in, and a little further back but still going up are Bae, Fauna, Lui, and the Hololive English official channel, which is ahead of the other 4 and growing the fastest.

>>16204861
Only most, just not everyone.

>>16204919
>Kenmochi and Utako have a gulf in viewership between them
>subs are only 21k difference
Did someone go on reddit and beg?

>>16204731
everyone is affected differently

>>16204980
He got a buff from the Mario Kart tournament. I'm surprised he's still getting more subs after.

Alright round 2 of retarded falseflagging with the dumbest Niji poll pocs, let’s go. I expect truly aneurysm inducing logic and room temperature SEAsister larping. Don’t let me down.

>>16204919
*other 3

>>16205032
gr8 b8 m8

>>16205032
I meant the other way, Kenmochi is a mover and shaker, when he streams. Utako is who...?

>Mori
>3k CCV
>22k likes

>>16205066
Reminder that if Mysta isn't getting culled then neither is Fubuki.

>>16205066
>SEAsister
Japan isn't SEA tho

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>21,067: Gura (Hololive)
>13,416: Gatchaman (Indie)
>12,354: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>11,315: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>10,934: Fubuki (Hololive)

>>16205180
Nijisanji wins 3 - 2

>>16205180
It's Gatchman V

>>16205206
Retard.

>>16205215
Isn't "V" for "Vtuber", as opposed to his other channel?

>>16205180
chumbuds holding the line…

>>16205180
Why Susan loves salarymen so much?

>>16205299
Is this the last solo 20k stream.

>>16205283
I'd be fine if Gatchaman won gold*. When was the last time an indie won gold?

Patra struggled to get her 10k, it kept "edging" on 9980, 9975 for quite some time.

But she did it so today (JST) won't be a day that will end up with zero VTubers above that

>>16205403
Hal, when he announced merise (or right before). He ceased to be an indie right then and there tho

>>16205423
>Patra struggling to get 10k with ASMR
Those are tourist central. 15k is the norm.

>>16205180
I hope the cull stays longer

>>16205180
>1 holoEN
>1 holoJP
>1 NijiJP
>1 Noripro
>1 indie
This is the most balanced chart I've ever seen. The cull is a good thing.

>>16205116
I thought you meant the other way because of the total view counts.

>>16205565
You don't have to worry
Youtube never fixed anything

>>16205574
Yeah if your dad was a low T hippie

we're starting to get dangerously close to there's not enough people for podium
i think im having a panic attack

>>16205647
That post was clearly a joke, anon. Sheesh, this is why irony is dead nowadays.

>>16205744
mine was too but at your faggot dad's expense

>>16205116
Some girl that got humped.

bronies really?

>>16205180
Gatchaman has also been standing out on this cull era.
I do not know why it has not been included on the past tallys because is not the first time it breaks 10k since CCVid started.

>>16205673
And Tamaki probably wouldn't even have made the list without a chunk of the audience being tourists desperately hoping to catch some drama. Sad times

>>16205744
>irony is dead nowadays
Too many brainlets who always take everything literally and say retarded shit unironically.

I think youtube should just hide CCV at this point
It's easier for youtube to hide it than fix it

>>16205805
>it
Gatchaman? Well the other tally can't recognize him lol

>>16205805
Maybe it has something to do with his main channel not being a VTuber channel?

>>16205831
grab the rope samefag

>>16205824
oh right, the lilith thing
fuck that means we're even closer fuck

>Only 22 posters
/#/ reclining

>>16205831
If people keep pretending to be retarded, then actual retards end up feeling pretty much at home.
You can replace "being retarded" there with anything else too, really.

>>16205976
ok, just for (You)

>>16205976
/#/ got niked...

Has anyone actually checked whether this problem is specifically only a VTuber problem or not yet?

I guess Vshojo has now become the biggest EN group by default. That will be an easy thing to pass for NijiEN guys.

Is Susan unintentionally killing this thread?
Pretty based ngl

>>16206046
This place doesn't know average streamers and Susan's cashcows seem to be whitelisted

fuck that double bait it's too good, it almost made me give him a (you)

It's past JP (and SEA) prime time so no shit the thread is slow. There's a decent amount of streams ongoing right now though, but meh

>>16206086
>Fake numbers are reality!
Do Vshits really?

>>16205180
Gura is winning a lot of medals

Gura
Gold 2
Silver 3
Bronze 2

>>16206197
>keeping track of silver and bronze during CCVid
Aren't you dedicated.

>>16206236
>The cope
LMAO

>>16205180
Goddamn Susan really massacred the rabbit. 7k ccv and her current vod count now is almost 300k.

>>16206254
>cope
??? Do you even know what the word means

>>16206046
was watching a sports stream yesterday and a poll showed 10% of the viewers after 1 minute, dont think regualr streams are affected too much

>>16206261
i must say, it's really funny how it's hitting the runts, the menheras and the numberfags the hardest, it almost feels like punishment, in a way

>>16206261
To be fair, anything JP with the word "announcement" and not from too low CCV holo can get high VOD, kinda need a generic normal stream to see if the CCV vs VOD still function the same. A normal, non-challenge/clickbait Minecraft would be best since the game is popular enough.

>2 hours and 18 minutes
>137k views right away
>10k likes
>average CCV of 6.6k
Does it check out?

>>16206127
>>16206311
What about non-JP indies?

>>16204731

>>16206698
Uoooooo!!! Numbers erotic... ToT

>>16206435
Go check Pekora's pokemon shiny hunt stream today. That cull rate is brutal.

>>16206127
Don't some of the VTuber numberfag websites track non-VTuber peak CCV as well? Could we compare those?

>>16204999
What’s with those ridges and why are some people’s taller than others

>>16206823
Kuzuha is inclining but Pajeet bot decided his viewers need verification and wasn't keen on letting him past 7k.

>>16206776
That's why I said the word "announcement" because I know what stream it is. Just from my experience that any stream with that word generally has high VOD. Need a generic stream to compare, best would be MC since the game is popular enough. Of course I can see the cull is bad already.

>>16206197
the queen of a sunken city...

>>16206197
I can see in a not so distance future, when all of this is over (either they move to another plattaform or, if god wants it, Susan fix her shit) and jp comes back to shit on Gura again, childfuckers will spam how Gura was the top holo and all the views by then are fake.
Just like they were doing during the first cull on how she actually had 300k CCV on her karaokes.

>>16207165
atlantis...home...

>2020 cull through end of 2021
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED EN NIGGERS, THE NUMBERS ARE ALL COMPLETELY VALID, JP REIGNS SUPREME, ENJOY YOUR RECLINE, VOD VIEWS DON'T MATTER, SUBS DON'T MATTER, LIKES DON'T MATTER, ALL THAT MATTERS IS CCV, ENJOY YOUR DEAD SUBS AND BOTS
>2022 cull
WHAT THE FUCK SUSAN, COMPLETELY UNFAIR, JPS ARE BEING SINGLED OUT AND SUPPRESSED, I-IT'S NOT RIGHT!!!, OH GOD ARE THOSE... MALES, ENS, AND VSHOJOS IN THE TOP 10, I'M GONNA.... *SHOOTS HIMSELF*

Nice waste of an entire year you retarded faggots

>>16207179
No need for such butthurt.

>>16207179
How rude, anon. I was totally not planning to grudgepost the living shit out of spicschizo after all of this is over.

>>16207235
Not as much when she goes back on being mogged by jp soon again or the Orca reach 1 million subs faster than her, less than 300k to go

>>16207244
Migo got 20k for a mf watchalong on twitch,
Grudgepost it faggot once this issue is over, because it will go back to previous status quo.

>>16207179
>(either they move to another plattaform or, if god wants it, Susan fix her shit)
Neither will happen.

>top holo
Top vtuber of WORLD.
Fix you

>>16207283
?????
Anon, I....
Your number reps?
Do you remember how fast Gura got to 1mil subs?
Here's a hint: She's already not beating Gura to 1 mil, period.

>>16207283
It will take her 5 months if she keeps her current pace, anon. Not gonna happen.

>>16207350
????????????????
Why must you build your lies on top of this shitpile that we currently reside on, Miko got 10k. 10k, not 20k, 10k. For her watchalong.

>>16207398
>Top vtuber of WORLD.
Her pink cat friend got more numbers than her not too long ago,
Does that make vwhorejo the top vtuber group of the world?

LAST SAMURAI VS LAST COWBOY
ROUND 2 FIGHT

>>16206261
why is it surprising to you? youtube never culls VODs because they want Jew the advertisers

>>16207471
>not too long ago
when?
the only time nyanners beat gura in any way that i can remember is the cookie run stream

>>16207446
>Same numbers as Gura on a watchalong
You realize still doesn't make it look better if JP decides to move to twitch, right?
And let's not get into NND's numbers, where Polka can get 10k+ on a random day.

>>16207496
I mean, cowboy has a fucking gun, it's over before it even began.

>>16207411
>>16207428
>The trembling
kek
If roboco got 3k subs on a sub goal stream that never hit 1k CCV, the orca is getting those numbers way faster.

>>16207496
What's a last cowboy?

>>16204607
Ah yes.
The numbers that keep on evolving almost every episode.

>>16207551
We don't know what kind of numbers Gura would get on a straight watchalong on Twitch to compare, if we're going to go down this silly bullshit JP vs EN nonsense that I don't give 2 figsleafs about. I just care about at least sticking to actual numbers when the're available, not horseshit nonsense doubling from 10k to 20k.
See, now I'm curious as to what kind of numbers Gura WOULD get on a public watchalong on Twitch.

Daily check is it fixed yet

>>16207637
Anon....do you need meds?
Like, you're talking nonsense right now. Perhaps it's time to go to bed.

>>16207705
based on the state of the thread, no

>>16207684
>The blogspot

>>16206617
6.6 min/view
No, the average CCV would need to be at least 2.5 times higher

>>16207705
why fix something working as intended

So to summarize:
Hololive is megafucked
Nijisanji is fucked
774 is fucked
VSPO is megafucked
Noripro is fucked
VOMS is fucked
VERSEn is fucked
Propro is fucked
Masquerade is fucked
Every JP indie I've seen is fucked
.LIVE is perfectly fine and getting their normal numbers if not higher for every stream

>111 post
>39 poster
>Is childfuckers samefagging again
/#/ is a wasteland rn

>>16207769
CCVid has broken a lot of numberfags mentally.

>>16207637
Bruh, are you mistaking some other metrics? Gura took 40 days to 1m, Chloe is already failing that mark.

>>16207815
It is, frankly, utterly bizarre that .LIVE appears to be completely unaffected.
I swear, if some stupid fucks in YT Japan are related to .LIVE and got them whitelisted, that would be the most aggravating thing.

>>16207637
Anon, Gura debuted September 12th, she reached 1m subs on October 22nd. It's fucking over you dumb fuck, orca is not beating her.

>>16207777
Damn nice numbers and ill be back tomorrow thanks

>>16207843
She was still getting 28k subs/day when she hit 1m btw.

>>16207777
>>16208000
double checked

>>16207777
>>16208000
Based

>>16207705
Last tweet 19h ago replying to a screenshot from Mumei's poll

Keep coping anon, Susan will fix it

>>16208019
This is what people don't get
Gura didn't have the strongest start, she just didn't slow down for MONTHS

>>16208091
I love how the words 'fix' and 'live' are in bold.
Still not breathing a sigh of relief until a proper fix is in though.

>>16208149
It's just search terms that anon used.

>>16208096
Even now, she's still picking up on average 3k subs a day.
Do you know how many indie chubbas would shank a bitch and fuck the corpse for 3k subs a day? Or hell, even some small corpo chubbas?

>>16208149
i doubt they'll even bring attention to it if/when its fixed. we'll just see numbers increase

>>16207815
>>16207898
Time to apologize, she was right all along about .EVIL

>>16208179
Damnit, this is what I get for not using twitter on the regular. I'VE BEEN EXPOSED.

It seems the way for 2views to incline is through endurance singing streams that last for multiple days. and clipper shoutouts

>>16208096
Here's what I don't get
Why are subs the only thing inclining for her and not everything else? Is the EOP clipwatching culture that strong?

>>16208091
Based.

>>16205180
>13,416: Gatchaman (Indie)
doesn't he run his own corpo now? I forgot the name

>>16208187
Wait, do some content creators really want 3k sub/day? I get that it is still an important metric, but dont they know that getting people to watch your videos is more important than trying to gain sub? Many channels have that small intro where they said that only 10% of sub watch their video.

>>16208238
Shark Girl is a bigger meme than Hololive and even VTubers. People know Gura without even knowing what the other 2 are.

>>16207898
>>16208218

>>16208218
I realised that last April, I'm sorry I doubted you for so long fat ass

>>16208292
People can watch YouTube videos without even having an account. It depends on the type of content how many of those viewers a channel gets.

>>16208297
I hate how you reminded me that "that" kind of audience exists, but fair.

>>16208238
How do you know only sub is the thing inclining for her? CCV is fuked since 2020 so little accurate info, SC depends on pandering, may be you can argue that view is not inclining but the same pattern with many channels (more sub, view same-ish or reduces) so not really a good point.

>>16208238
English streaming is crazy competitive and seems to orientate around either big cliques or react content.
https://twitchtracker.com/channels/viewership/english/personality
even pewdiepie rarely gets over 20k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYuiA_QL1QY

Any JPfags can translate what happened to dis bich?

>>16208292
You're far more likely to have people watch you if they hit that sub button than not.
Better to have 10k subs and 1k views than 2k subs and 800 views. Ratios be damned, if every 9k subs = 200 more regular viewers, you'll farm those subs. Also, for some, increasing your sub count is a way to offset natural drop offs in viewerships for one reason or another

>>16208512
>>>/jp/38115142

>>16208489
>CCV
I was hoping that she would negate the cull with her growth like how some of the JPs managed, but nope.
>SC
She never did, so neh.
>same pattern
While true, Gura is the most noticeable example in this aspect with her insane sub growth. Which makes me think that the lot of her new subs just watch clips instead.
>>16208494
Pewds is mainly an uploader though.

>>16208637
>like how some of the JPs managed
Like fucking who? What the fuck are you even talking about? Nobody escaped the cull, you can't double your CCV audience overnight to combat this shit.

>>16208637
Which JP managed to escape the cull? Everyone is so low now.

>>16208814
Nobody, he's just an idiot.

>>16208843
That anon was clearly talking about the 2020 cull, and if I'm not mistaken, Pekora, Miko and some other HoloJP members who have inclined through 2021 have off-set the losses suffered to some extent.

>>16208766
>>16208814
>>16208843

>>16207815
>>16207898

>>16207815
>Every JP indie I've seen is fucked
gatchaman?

>>16208887
This.

>>16208512
Profusely apologizing to her fans, she accepts any and all responsibility for the situation, and doesnt want her fans to blame anyone else for it happening. She cannot go into specifics so all the language is incredibly vague and does not state exactly what happened.
stated multiple times she does not want her fans lashing out at anyone else, does not mind them lashing out at her for this.
She is not going to start streaming yet, will take some time off so everything cools down first before doing her own thing on her channel quietly from now on.
More apologizing, this time specifically to her mods for having to deal with this shitshow, and to any of her fans who are offended by the situation.

I love cunny

>>16208906
Ah, you mean those JPs who weren't culled at all.

New topic since Im curious about this, most people said that Gura has lower SC than Mori because her fanbase skews younger and thus has less disposable income, or Kiara has a more dedicated fanbase due to same thing.
How come Gura has more members over all (stats from those charts anon posted from time to time)? Shouldnt a more dedicated fanbase also buy membership as well and thus should also has more members?

>>16209158
It's not that Gura doesn't have a dedicated fanbase, it's that she doesn't have a factor that attracts an extremely dedicated (and wealthy) core of gachikoi. At least, not to the same level as Mori and Kiara, or the likes of Rushia, Marine, Pekora, Watame, Flare, and Lamy on the JP side.

>>16208512
> first thing she says is an apology to her mods, then asks them to take care of chat.
> she's "fine", asks to not flame anyone else.
> if chat will get refreshed by flaming her and blaming her, she's fine. She says she's at fault and apologizes.
> from now onwards she will continue on as an indie.
> wants to do streams and videos such that her listeners are able to move on from worrying about her.
> *dramatic pause*
> again asks to not flame anyone else.
> next stream will not be anytime soon, she wants to try and get her emotions under control.
> tells mods and listeners she is fine and energetic, and thanks them.
> she will try to live on without causing anyone trouble (starts crying).
> she can only say this much, apologies again to everyone who was worried and felt bad because of her.
> implies she may have overworked herself/put too much pressure on herself, and wants to live from now on while avoiding that ("ganbarisuginaiyoni, ganbatte ikitai na to omoimashita").
> *more apologies, more crying*
> "There's a lot of bad (stuff), but I will try to live a little longer"
> *ends stream by blasting your eardrums*

I'm guessing she tried to an-hero by ODing on something. And whatever she took may have been the reason for the termination.

>>16209158
Membership scales heavily with # of people who will watch you live. It's not the only factor, but its one of the big ones. It's why Pekora, Gura, Marine etc all have very high membership counts.
SCs are a bit trickier, but one of the biggest factors to getting SCs, is reading them. Gura doesn't read all her SCs, so she doesn't get as many SCs. Mori and Kiara, DO read all of theirs. If Ame didn't hate money and didn't have poorfag mentality x imposter syndrome, she could very easily have way way way more SCs than she currently does. However, she hates money and also is a maximum self-saboteur, so her SCs are in their current state.
All of the top SC earners in JP, they either read all SCs and/or cultivate a heavy Gachi/unicorn following. Rushia, Lamy, Kanata, Nene, I can't be arsed to pull up the list but you get the picture.

>>16209046
And how do we know this? Could you elaborate on the methods used? It surely isn’t wishful assumption stated with baseless confidence, right anon?

>>16207815
.Live numbers are much higher than what they used to be, previous livefags that went to holo because numbers are going back to idolbu, I guess. Holo is really fucked, a lot of locusts are quitting because they are no longer top boss.

>>16209378
You're gonna tell me they suddenly started inclining at the same time as the cull started with the same rate as the cull progressing? Are you retarded?

>>16209506
>this is much higher
Were they literal 2 views before?

Norio sure works fast.

>>16208976
>>16209281
thanks guys, so I guess she didn't say anything we didn't know already

>>16209542
Pic related was their avg numbers last year.

>>16209506
They’re doing a groupwide mariokart colab in that pic anon, of course they show buffed numbers

>>16209635
I see.

>>16209506
I wonder who is to blame for that

>>16209633
That's last year pic, dude, they're doing a lot better recently.

>>16209725
i see

>>16209506
>Holo is really fucked, a lot of locusts are quitting because they are no longer top boss.
I wonder if people will actually do this

>>16209565
Ah, what the fuck happened?

>>16209919
Just look at the speed of this thread, and how much it’s dropped since the cull. Bandwagonning is very real.

>>16209949
Final yab.

>>16209949
contract cancelled, apparently had something to do with the law
scroll up for roommate stream and translation, though there's nothing substantial

>>16209949
On her indie account
>>16209281
What she did, up to speculation. No specifics given beyond what was stated below NoriPro.

>>16209953
It's dropped because there is nothing to talk about. Youtube is fucked up. Most numbers we have are unreliable.

>>16209919
That's obviously happening already for some holos, even considering the cull, some of the girls numbers are too low.

>>16209953
Ah yes, the speed of the numbers thread during CCVID is definitely a good measure of interest for hololive as a whole.

oricon you can't deny me these numbers like this you're the only numbers i have left thanks to susan

>>16210019
>>16210045
Thanks, didn't connecet the dots and didn't really recognize her voice.

>>16210230
It certainly isn’t going upwards, or is tgat what you’re implying?

>>16209682
I hope you kys if you keep spam this pic.

>>16210165
If they shed some of the most utterly casual of casuals who can only watch something if there's that big number in the corner to validate them, then good riddance.
Also, Ark arc is probs going to filter some people. Not much to be done, same with MH rise, but better that they're playing stuff they enjoy to mix things up a bit I guess. Not like the ccv matters until something is done.

>>16209682
Pakora confirmed for responsible for the shitty programming and CCV culls.

>>16210488
Shedding casuals is the worst thing a content creator can do. It’s their largest fanbase.

>>16210488
>muh numbers don't matter
Fuck off, you dumb qualityfag globalfag. What are you even doing in the Numbers thread, then?

>>16210672
This. It's just less views and subs if they lose them.

>>16210709
>>16210672
Fair point, I only mean that trimming some of the dregs can help re-energize the base for future growth, but I failed to write that down. Like, losing a very small amount of tourists but solidifying your core to then continue growth afterward isn't bad, but in the current community completely fucked CCV situation there's no reliable way to even determine anything as an outsider.

>>16210741
People on this board are obsessed with the idea of holos becoming 2views and then interacting with them in chat.
The delusion: soon Gura will be a 2 view with a slow chat speed and will talk to me
The reality: Susan will say Gura has 1000 views and her chat will still move faster than anyone can ever keep up with

>>16210828
Who wants to talk to Gura when she’s a 2view?

>>16210828
You notice how they want Holos to conform to whatever they want them to be (2views, collab with the homos etc) but won’t actually branch out.

>>16209356
Ame gimped herself by not reading SC on the fly and desperately try not to SC baiting. The second she tried, the money came like a river. Gura was in that hole for a while until she learned to copy Mori.

>>16210445
check these out, numbersagi

>>16206197
Gura is the Queen of the Cull

>R-Reimu... ;-(

Reimu getting "elle'd" hard, which is a fucking mystery because she doesn't even have that high of an audience for starters.

>>16211824
Petra as well, terminal case.

>>16211824
She’s gonna start shitposting harder now isn’t she

>>16211824
>>16211864
Towa, bicycle of vtubing, is spreading CCVID like crazy

>>16211824
ah fuck reimu is gonna shitpost harder now.

>>16211824
>>16211864
It's not as bad in solo streams. It's easy to tell that this affects split-POV collabs the most due to multi-tab viewers being counted as bots.

If you were in denial about this affecting the NijiEN dudes too then look no further. This is definitely a Nike/tending towards Nike stage.

>>16207179
why mad? Gura always had very good numbers, her channel is a big buff for songs. She is the top vtuber, no point in denying it.

>>16212650
It's one specific dude that that shitposter talked about, not this dude.

>>16210672
Casuals rotate in and out already. There are ways to chase them, but ultimately it's the high engagement from dedicated fans that get you trending and enable you to pick up the casual views.

>>16212650
this shit is more contagious than aids

First normal Ina stream in awhile coming up, in theory a lot of Takos should have been marked as bots during all the recent events like MK and outfit reveal.

>>16213719
prev. chatting stream

Bros, go check this shit out. Tons of vtubers just doubled their numbers just now.

>>16211988
This barely 1k ccv stream has over 100k vod views now. Lol.

>>16214296

>>16214333

>>16214296
So YouTube has been fucking with the culling.

I wonder if this jump in views will last or go away again in 5 minutes?

>>16214296
>>16214333
Holly shit!

>>16214296
ISREAL

>>16214377
>>16214364
VSPO was the worst hit and look at this. The numbers might be back.

Hololive top 50 originals of the week is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHbygszLA34

.... and that's a Fact.

>>16214296
SUSAN PLEASE

>>16214373
Ina's stream can be a litmus test. Will the waiting room shenanigans happens again?

>>16214296
Sasuga octopus destination, evading CCVID
>>16213719

Last one. This all happened at the same time, 5:40~ JST

streams to check to see if this was the fix

Even if it's fixed, this won't bring back the numbers we've lost.

Hayama's a 2k streamer again?

The live numbers seem to be updating more frequently now too.

But also, isn't doubling still not enough?
Many were already close to the 5x threshold.

>>16214451
>>16214400
>>16214364
>>16214360
>>16214333
>>16214296
>all at the same time
100% Youtube changed something.

Will the restoration help hololive? It's helped vspo, NijiEN, and NijiJP.

>>16214445
Nothing gets in the way of Stable Octopus Tip. Not even Susan.

>>16214504
I'm more interested in Koyori since JP was the hardest hit.

>>16214451
yeah looks like something rolled in
i wonder if this morning streams were a sign lie the roboco one

>>16214552
Maybe she was only getting a 50% cull. Check >>16214400, she's getting almost 4 times the numbers back.

>>16214543
Nothing ever will. This thread will forget about the lessons learned here (like how there's already a fucking cull since 2020) and go back to treating CCV like it means shit

Just to add to the pile, Hal's stream nearly tripled in views, he was hanging around the 1.3k mark last I checked and now he's nearly 4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzCaZ3Tce2Q

Elira at 1500 and Reimu at 600, seems normalish.

>>16214543
Like tears in the rain...

>no one in hololive was streaming
damn it why couldn't they have streamed ARK longer

Dear lord youtube must've fucked shit up if they all doubled their views.

fucking susan

They made a CCVID vaccine. I have hope now that we can return to life as normal.

OMG I CHECKED A FEW ZERO VIEW STREAMS AND IM BACK BABY!! I THINK???

>>16214590
Hal has been pozzed for a while so maybe it's back.

>>16214629
SORRY FAGGOT BUT YOU GOTTA TAKE THE YOUTUBOOSTER SHOT.

TWO MORE WEEKS TO CURB THE CURV, SUSANS ORDERS.

did i return at the correct time?

https://vrabi.ml/video/RTIOWVsijsE
https://vrabi.ml/video/-BwRApLTJIc

Both nearly 4x increases.

Someone check kson and Hal, they are still streaming.

>>16214604
They weren't as terminally ill as Hal, VSPO, and NijiJP.

Can someone ask them to do a poll to check it?

NUMBER THREADS ARE BACK IN BUISNESS BABY

Still not pre-Dec 2020 is it?

>>16214296
>>16214333
>>16214360
>>16214400
>>16214451
>>16214552
>>16214574
This shit is hilarious

>my flagged premium account is finally counted as a person
This might be it brosssss
We're all going to make it

>>16214695
according to the kson thread. she gained 2000 viewers in a few minutes. she's currently streaming to 2900 people now.

>>16214722
need to wait for holos

>>16214687
Damn so Beni is actually a 3view now after the yab

>4k waiting room for Ina
This isn't gonna be a big stream so rather than looking at magnitudes look at graph shapes.

Now, the real question is if they just rolled back the 2021 fuck up or if we're going back to 2020 numbers.

A-Are we back bros?

>>16214651
yeah same. it takes a couple of seconds but i seem to no longer be a bot

I just refreshed Ina's waiting room. I didn't see it get cut....

>>16214776
If Pekkers and Gura are 40k again then we know.

>>16214740
Lets goooo I'm a person again too

>>16214745
yeah she was streaming to 1.1k persons
now at 2.9k

>>16214722
Let's see how Ina performs today.
Considering the natural decline, she should be around 12-15k if we're back to 2020.

https://twitter.com/ShibuyaHAL/status/1480643155431428098

>>16214766
I wish they had deployed this 30 minutes later than they did so we could catch the Ina jump

>>16214766
Koyori will be better since her radio stream is a series.

so if we take that on average, theres a 2x increase then the last niji mahjong tourny 47k stream outperformed the previous year.

as well as gura 50k.

goddamn it susan

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BROS

>>16214296
>>16214333
>>16214360
>>16214400
>>16214451
>>16214552
>>16214574
AND WALLAH, CCV WILL NEVER BE CULLED AGAIN

>>16214695
last i saw kson she was around 1k but just checked now and shes at 2.8k

>>16214766
Nevermind, my browser probably took a while to update. Hopefully recovery is quick.

>gets fixed only after all the big number events like costume reveals are over
Fuck you Susan you cucked me out of so many big numbers

>>16214797
Dropped from 4.3k to 1.5k on my end. It's already inclining back up though.

>>16214829
Based HAL, saving us from CCVID

>>16214829
Numbers Emperor, I kneel...

>>16214829
Based Emperor. Proves that he was getting hit really hard.

NUMBER COIN IS GOING UP, BUY BUY BUY

Waiting room drop still happens, as expected, but let's see how long it takes to recover it.

4k waiting room for ina
recover seems fast until now.

>>16214687
>>16214731
we need to monitor the curvs now

>>16214722
So far it looks like pre-Dec 2021 behavior.
Guessing we will never get 2020 numbers back, but if Ina has 16k for some reason, we'll know.

>Ina still culled from 4k to 1.4k
OH NO nO NO NO

>>16214881
Give it half an hour.

>>16214805
nope. We back in 2021. Peko 25-30k Gura 15-20k.
AH HA HA HA

numbers are up again?

>>16214916
That's much better than before.

Now would someone do a poll to measure engagement

>>16214916
That is better than we have seen lately.

>>16214776
>>16214805
No, or Ina would be a lot closer to 10k.

>>16214829
Damn, he was so pissed at this shit.

The fix is in, right on time.

Susan my CCV puts... I'm ruined

>>16214916
Already back to 3.5k
I imagine they just reverted whatever changes they had made

>>16214832
Kyori also cares about numbers, she might even mention it. Ina doesn't give a and hasn't even been bothered to make a poll all this time.

I want to say we're back, but I dunno if Ina is a good barometer, she was never exactly the Holo suffering the most from CCVID.

>>16214916
That's nowhere near as bad as some others, 90% was common for Iroha and Miko

Ina almost back at waiting room numbers already.

recovering her waiting room in sub 5 minutes possibly, so maybe back to 2021 numbers bros...

>tfw i sold my number coin yesterday

God I wish this happened during Towa's stream earlier. That would have been interesting.

Bullcucks getting uppity again

>>16215042
If only we can get back to 2020 numbers...

Nature is healing... have you thanked your local numbersagi today?

so faggots, did you sell your CCV coin like a retard before the huge pump?

>>16215057
OH NONONONOO

>>16214695
>>16214745
>>16214816
>>16214850

>>16214916
she's currently at 4k CCV with 2k Likes. that's a pretty healthy ratio for me! Iner doesn't really have that much viewers in these types of streams.

>>16214916
That part is expected now because people get ads as soon as the stream starts or it buffers and you need to refresh.

Apparently you don't get counted for either.

Ina was always the least effected so we should wait.

Ina just beat her waiting room in 5 minutes.

>>16214881
Waiting room recovered in about 7 mins.

finana also passed her waiting room in 5min
it was only 500 but is still raising rather than stalling

>>16215081
>>16214695
>>16214745
She gave a Good Morning Mother Fuckers too.

>>16215057
Bears deserve to get fucked

Pekora will be thanking management on her KNEES for having her wait before announcing whatever during the CCVID days

Since >we don't get to see membership numbers very often: Kiara has at least 780 people watching her eat snacks right now (from poll votes)

>>16215103
>>16215139
That's quite slow compared to pre-cull where Myth could recover within 5 minutes (if not much faster), but obviously it's better than it has been recently.

>>16215057
>he sold

>held my number coins
>got a huge fucking gain of 3x

im gonna make it bros

Okay, now that the numbers are back will Council hit 50k on their outfit reveals or is 30k the better guess?

>>16215139
Is the Nike-ing finally finished?

>>16215193
I think she said something about how many people were actually there but I didn't catch it.

I dunno, it still looks kinda bad. It took her almost 7 min to recover from waiting room and the drop was huge too.

>>16215058
Considering Towa's vod is at over 100k right now it would have been like a cliff.

>>16215199
Bro, hitting the waiting room number this quickly is a massive victory.

>>16215271
It's more like a checkmark now.

Not a vtuber, Misumi, also saw an almost double increase before the new streams started.

going to check some more irlstreamers too.

>Ina already passed her waiting room and still rising

Holy Shit... Did Susan finally release the vaccine for CCVid?

>>16215278
660, so at least in her members stream it's still under-counting even after everyone had that big spike

>>16215266
50K+ unless they do it at some dogshit time. If Sana goes first she might not hit that though.

Koyori in 50 minutes will be a better test than Ina

hey, I'm kinda new to to this general; there seems to be some guy that always finds a way to say Gen 5 is a failure whenever they're even tangentially mentioned, and no-one really responds. is this a running joke?

Chumkeks are you ready?

I wish they would make an official list of activity that gets flagged as being a bot

>>16215291
Well, are you watching the stream? I'm not

>>16215307
Not a vtuber yes but presumably her audience is 99% vtuber fans

>>16215291
pulling it out of my ass, but like how people's accounts would get flagged over time what if were seeing the opposite so peoples accounts are being unflagged as they use them

>>16215291
it is outpacing her latest tlak stream

koyori in 50 minutes will give us a solid real check since holoX was fucking reamed by this shit

I feel Ina's numbers are an exception and shouldn't be considered indicative of anything

>>16215298
Again, you guys shouldn't be hedging all your bets on Ina, even during the cull she's been regaining her waiting room in like 10 minutes every single time, this isn't a massive improvement for her.

https://vrabi.ml/video/95yPJiiiZTs
https://vrabi.ml/video/ovdDTBC6tlc
https://vrabi.ml/video/26s3Ubj1jwE

N-numberbros are we back??

>>16215362
"Gen 5 Schizo" it's just a guy that irrationally bitches about Gen 5 constantly. There's also one that hates Council. Might be the same guy.

>Council outfits will beat the Myth outfits now

>>16215310
it still took 7 minutes to surpass waiting room in what used to take 2 minutes.
Its better but i doubt its cured and still has 2020 culling

>Ina with 5k
ah ah ah ah Im coming ah ah ah I cant stop right now ah ah ah

Koyori radio last week had a 4.4k peak from waiting room last week but never broke 2700 viewers that stream apparently. So it'll be nice to see where she ends up today.

So the cull was only half of the numbers. lol, pekora's chicken really is cold then.

My account still doesn’t count…

>>16215393
Then botters would know exactly how to avoid tipping it off.

>>16215443
Remains to be seen, Kiara just said her dashboard put her members stream at 660 viewers while a 2 minute poll ended at 780 votes
If they fixed it for everyone except hololive then I cannot imagine the seething that is about to occur

can't you still numberfag about SCs?

It's fucking back!

>>16215497
>you now realize that Pegor is streaming to 30,000~40,000 people on her Undertale G-route runs.

>>16215433
She hit 6k in 13 minutes. In some of those graphs it took her 25-35 minutes to hit that. It's definitely faster.

>>16215458
if all council get 50k+ and beat guras the shitposting will be enormous even if alot of people will know why it happened but retards dont care.

>>16215507
The 2020 cull is still likely in effect. It would have been a miracle if they fixed that. In fact I would guess they didn't "fix" anything but just threw in the towel and did a rollback to 12/23/21 or whatever.

>>16215563
>te pokemon tournament was probably 100k
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>16215507
>16% cut
I'll take it. That might just be Dec 20's cut, which hit Kiara by 34%

>>16215574
outpacing her latest one by 10%
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/eZmls5E20Eg

Okay thresholds for Koyori's morning show so that we can determine of YT CCV is officially healed or not
>10k+ definitely healed
>6k-10k her pre cull numbers, likely healed
>3k-5k not clear
>1k-3k likely not healed
>any less definitely not healed
Fair?

>>16215647
That's only if there was absolutely 100% engagement on the poll, which is insane to imagine.

kek susan is sure being disliked in the public eye (from https://youtu.be/cc9CDz320KE))
>114 like
>32.6M subs

Still inclining

If Koyori gets 7 or 8k on her stream I'm gonna cry bros

https://youtu.be/VB0vQ8yBCBs

>>16215680
no way she still gets 6k+ for a like the 10th radio stream.
5k is a safe bet.

>>16215647
That assumes 100% participation though. the real number is most likely x2, x3 maybe x4 the amount of people who voted.

>>16215677
HoloEN was still weakly culled at that point. Don't expect dramatic jumps like the audiences that got nuked by 75%

>Ina 6.5k
WE ARE GOING TO THE MOON

I don't think Ina enough is proof. She has been one of the least culled .Even after the cull she hit 7k on solo MK and 9k on a collab. You mean to tell me Ina had enough pull to get 14k on that solo MK8? Her usual peak was like 12ish thousand with games like Minercraft and 10k on drawing streams.

>>16215689
Membership streams would have higher engagement.

L-lui nee won't get her 3view no more right bros? Susan fixed it right?

>>16215578
Sana getting >50k on her costume reveal stream and mogging Gura's views would be hilarious and might cause unironic seethe.

>>16215733
I think it could reach 10k because of people making a point to prove they exist

>>16215578
regardless there will be shitposters since if they fail to break 50k then they can't blame the cull

>>16215362
That's just one of the regular schizos here. Pretty much every general on /vt/ has a dedicated schizo or three. If you make the mistake of spending too much time here you'll learn to recognize them too.

So what is the date for the cull, 12/26/21~1/10/22?

>>16215796
I doubt it would be more than 50% though.

>>16215792
We've seen VSPO girls, who had polls with 1000% engagement, quadruple their numbers since 5:40 am JST. It's definitely back for some vtubers.

>>16215845
It’s not over yet my account is still flagged

>>16215845
it only became alot more prominent after that but apparently some evidence suggest it started earlier in the month by some people in here.

>>16215864
I know but I'm saying wait for more EN streams, since Ina seems to have been the EN with the least amount of cull to begin with.

ina's graph is following a pattern. so maybe not fully fixed?

Maybe we will really be back in 2020?

Just in time for my girl big day!
She's been beaten around too much lately, hope she still got her 12k karaoke number today!
https://youtu.be/c_gZHcV4SxE

>>16215886
those spikes are pretty weird

>>16215732
WTFWT

>>16215886
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/d57Jk8E6pVQ
ina streams always had those weird spikes, you can see it here just smaller since stream is longer so they appear to be shrunk down a bit.

>>16215732
Hag love

>>16215802
They can't cull what wasn't there in the first place

>>16215912
Pajeet bot is probably still culling it but it's improving.

Also Koyori's pre cull radio numbers are 6k-8k. If she gets 5k she's probably back.

>>16215433
True, we need more EN streams to check.
The 2021 Cull™ seemed to disproportionately impact JP steamers.

>>16215911
No evidence it's been fully reverted and she has been one of the more culled ENs, probably due to sharing a lot of overlap with other streamer fanbases. I don't expect much from that stream numberwise, but maybe she will do a poll at some point, like for a song choice.

>>16215845
Starting point is debatable I feel. In fact, I don't think the same start point applies to every channels.
Maybe just throw any number between late December and early January into the trash.

>>16215912
that's pretty common right after the 2020 cull
so not fully fixed but just rollback to what things were before christmas day

>>16215497
Check
>>16214585
It's different for everyone.

So how many possible 100k streams have we lost? from Holo side I think the New Year, Pekora's tournament, Gura's kimono. Not sure about Mikorone and Towa's part.

>>16215949
oh yeah

I don't think they fixed the cull yet. They are probably still unflagging bot accounts

>>16215732
Wtf happened

>>16215894
Definitely not in 2020, Ina's charts were perfectly flat and smooth, it wasn't until the nonsense 2021 brought that it started getting spiky like that.

>>16215845
Some anons said that 18th December seems most likely, but that it really became noticeable after the Christmas relay.

>>16216050
Quite a few, there were a ton of big events both for JP and EN. Tourneys, outfits, NY celebrations... all lost.

>>16215986
JP streams are the best test. The NijiEN streams went up but not at the JP's scaler factor. Chigusa got more than double back whereas Selen only got 40% back.

>>16216050
Niji Mahjong, 3 days worth?

>>16215732
2k get
>>16216073
The first spike is accounts getting mass unflagged. The subsequent incline is either more accounts getting unflagged slowly or people seeing the big incline and piling in.

Here is my guess
>they are rolling the new feature on their actual servers
>there is still people flagged, they will be verified back once they start watching streams
>people are being verified on one channel, which translated to other channels

>>16215845
I think we saw strange stuff on the 22, we started seeing extremely flat graphs

Never been before but you people keep having emissaries show up in other threads and I'm hoping you're not crazy in the home thread, this number shit, right?
First question, how much is full-on, you've got it on lock, knowledge about things, and how much is "guesses that fit the framework of info you've been able to see."
Second, the ones who run to other threads are saying "fixed," or more often, "reversed." Is there enough data logged to compare the three trends, old, cull and new, to see if it's new or reverted.
Third and final, what models are you using to chart between everyone when you try and find a percentage lost. Are you running randomly selected pairs of streams, before and after, through analysis, then plotting data graphs to see if there's a trend line through all the data, doing something else, or "going with your gut?"