/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

No time to think or fight I need to coom

>>16179075
Idk I watch both

>>16179075
SEA and latin america

>>16179298
This.

>>16179234
uuhhh bro? how'd you get a picture of me..

>>16179298
I wish SEA were too poor for internet

>>16179075
idk i like both companies

>>16179075
its the console wars mentality

The real fight should be hololive, nijisanji, small corpos, indies vs vshojo

I want Nijisanji to burn for what they did to Aloe, I also want them to burn down cause of them awakening all the whores and fujos in the west with their EN male branch

>>16180127
Aloe isn't from Niji dumb fucker she is from holo and stop acting like males on Niji are something new EOP retard.

>>16180127
Holy kek. Did nijisanji raped you and killed your family too?

Competition is good. But rooting for your "team" skate tribalism is as natural as breathing. Dont take it personal. None of the talents do.

>>16179075
The death of Sex need to be avenged, the holocaust can't be forgotten. To carry the burden of the truth require action

Nijisanji, Hololive and Vshojo should be destroyed to usher in a new sengoku era of vtubers as new actors scrabble to consolidate their power.

It's people who don't know that Holos and Nijis are friendly and often collab with each other because they only watch ENs.

Its not about the chubbas its about trolling nijiniggers. Same with Kiara I don't actually care that shes a twice failed idol that pre holo was reduced to selling half naked barely recognizable shoops of herself (her words not mine) and has probably intimately felt the texture of every greasy casting couch in Tokyo. I do however greatly enjoy the sheer buttblastery reminding kfp of these facts brings.

as a matter of fact I will enjoy my vacation thank you

These are bugmen who will latch onto literally anything if it lets them fight against people who latched onto some kind of competitor. Sports team, corporations, brands, games, vtubers, it doesn't matter.

>>16180127
Aloe was hololive, not nijisanji. See, these bugmen don't even know what they're talking about.

>>16179075
If all other vtubers fail, my oshi succeeds automatically.
Simple as.

>>16180714
egg cracking lol

>>16180791
you obviously don't know what you're talking about either
anyway, the only ones I want to fail are vshojo

>>16181102
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgZuwn-O7Szh9cAgHqJ6vjw/videos

>>16180791
>>16180205
>16180127 (not me)
Anon your reading comprehension. I could understand his point since many JP antis (who were suspected to be mostly nijiggers) were demanding Aloe to apologize during her latest stream.

>>16180065
Based

>>16180714
Got the full pic my dude...

>>16181193
See >>16181142

Aloe was hololive, not nijisanji.

>>16181253
Yeah I know, and >>16180127 is blaming Nijisanji for her graduation. He didn't say that Aloe was Niji.

>>16180127
>I also want them to burn down cause of them awakening all the whores and fujos in the west with their EN male branch
Absolutely agreed. I don't give a shit about them making Aloe graduated, she only streamed once anyway. But normalizing male vtubers? Fuck that shit, now Cover is gonna make Holostars EN and they'll collab with the girls.

>>16181334
It wasn't nijisanji managers who drummed her out of the company, because she didn't work there.

>>16181374
It feels almost like NTR bros. I dont know why but i dont like this feeling

>>16181374
>But normalizing male vtubers? Fuck that shit
Hololive does not run the industry and has no say in what anyone else does, and Noja Loli started vtubing years before you had even heard of vtubers.

>>16181733
I dont know who Noja loli is but you sound like a total newfag, it's clear that Hololive is the reason why vtubers exists and is popular in the first place thanks to Sora and later Gura.

>>16181525
This is the proper instinctive response to getting cucked

>>16179075
Long ago, Nijisanji was the big dog in the lot, and Hololive was exceedingly loose with their permissions, that Nijisanji had to validate and request. Some Holo-anti's called Capcom asking why Hololive didn't have to request permissions, and that caused the great holocaust of videos
Over time, Holofags couldn't sit right, thinking that was it, so they decided to add in a rrat that Niji was hiring chicoms to anti Hololive, despite the fact at the time there was 0 reason to and almost every reason to actually support them since they had HoloCN, and not just chinese streamers in NijiJP

Going even FURTHER, despite the fact that it's been shown that HoloCN were the perpetrators of the Coco/Haachama debacle, even MORE Holofaggots accused Niji of hiring Chicoms again to harass Holo, despite, again, there being no real reason to, and the chinese that did do the anti'ing were doing so because they were ultra-nationalists and would have done it to PRISM, Nijisanji, or whomever

Then, the unbelievable and heinous thought project happened. Coco's moderators for her chats basically opened the flood gates and let the anti's just badger her non stop, to which Holofaggots somehow convinced themselves was a Nijisanji deep-play and long-con execution, which would imply Nijisanji is working in management levels of Hololive and somehow falseflagging and sabotaging themselves?

It really doesn't matter at this point, but it's basically an initiation or "Im a real holofan" mrite of passage to hate on Nijisanji

>>16180127
>It's nijisanjis fault they reported an underaged girl being raped by an ojiisan for her tech
>should have kept quiet and let her be used like a cumsock like in my animes

This is your mind on Hololive

Hololive fans hate nijisanji fans because back in the day niji fans would gatekeep and shit on hololive when it was small and niji was the big dog. Now that holo is dominant they want to pay it back. Of course, most hololive fans on this board weren't around in /jp/ back then, but they've been trained by the old guard.

>>16182430
>It's nijisanjis fault they reported an underaged girl being raped by an ojiisan for her tech
>should have kept quiet and let her be used like a cumsock like in my animes
What did the schizo mean by this?

>>16182464
Fans of the companies, but not fans of the talent.

>>16179075
I'm bored and procrastinating. Happenings are fun. Also, conflict is the driving force behind innovation.

>>16182430
>should have kept quiet and let her be used like a cumsock like in my animes
Unironically. Mind your own business and don't meddle in people's private lives unless someone's getting kidnapped, murdered or raped. The world didn't ask you to save it, senpai. Don't be conceited.

>>16179075
Hololive is actively sabotaging the western industry in an attempt to hold onto the number 1 spot. They are not being good stewards of the industry and if it falls apart in the west it can 100% be laid at their feet. They are basically being the Disney of western vtubing.

>>16182637
>Mind your own business and don't meddle in people's private lives unless someone's getting....or raped"
To which she was. statutory rape has that second part for a reason, pedophile-anon

Tribal mentality is for the dumb and the poor

>>16182430
that was Chris, nigger

>>16182795
That was both, actually. Just no one gives a shit about chris, which again re-emphasizes this weird ass mentality of Hololive where they will die on some hill about a menhera orange dragon basically inviting her managers, Yagoo, and China to beat her into the ground, as some hero
But The Holostars, Chris, and HoloCN die violent deaths career wise, and they just yawn about or Mental gymnastics around how they weren't worth it or it's for the best

If Kronii or Mumeii got canned tomorrow, i bet you 80+% of /vt/ would be celebrating or at least explaining how now, Council can grow

>>16182721
>statutory
>it's not really rape but we'll say it is because the government should decide when a person should have the right to freely associate with others
>what are people if not slaves to the government
Personally, I think Chris would've been happier living her dreams of being a virtual idol instead of going through all that just to get shitcanned and wind up with nothing to show for her sacrifice. Imagine actually wanting that outcome for someone. Nijiniggers really are a special breed of sociopath. Imagine wishing for someone to give up everything for nothing.

The Nijinigger antis were right. I'm washing my hands of Nijisanji, unironically. You fascist fucks who shit on human lives, freedoms, dreams and happiness can do what you want.

>>16182464
Even until this day Hololive JP easily has the most active antis, and it's kinda apparent who they truly are. EN fanbases should be thankful that people here aren't that toxic to the point of driving talents into resignation.

>>16182658
This is pretty much why I dislike Hololive. You venture from their guilded gates and it is painfully apparent.

>>16182795
As time goes on anon, Aloe's story gets more and more streamlined
But fear not, she and chris had that in common, but Aloe had to add to her pile
>Weird ass dad or (step-dad?) that doesn't let off of her
>Anti's because she spent a few streams talking about getting plowed like an untilled field on her stream to her potential simps
>Someone in the background dangling tech over her

>>16182963
>That was both, actually
Cool narrative bro.

>menhera orange dragon basically inviting her managers, Yagoo, and China to beat her into the ground, as some hero
Taiwan is a country.

>>16183145
it's still silly to blame english speaking 4chan users for the actions of crazy japanese and chinese fans

>>16183197
>she spent a few streams talking about getting plowed like an untilled field on her stream to her potential simps
I can't defend this. I suppose it's time to let Aloe go too.

>>16183243
Yes, it most definitely is. Are you trying to assume people who think Coco was hamming up her drama for exit ticket sales is automatically some deep root Chinese ultra-nationalist?

>>16183392
Of course you're a Chinese nationalist, why else would Coco casually mentioning Taiwan make you seethe this much?

When people join a new hobby they get told what The Culture is and how theyre supposed to behave and how to talk.
The Culture of watching-vtubers-online involves tongue-in-cheek wrestling rivalries between certain streamers or companies. "Tongue-in-cheek" doesnt translate well for the west and not at all for secondary viewers like SEA and latin america so they think "being an anti" is actually how youre supposed to behave online. They dont see anything wrong with it.

Also
>streaming attracts mentally ill parasocial types.
>anime attracts socially retarded people with zero social experience.
>women attract either deranged white knights or deranged violent masturbation addicts
"Anime girls streaming" probably has over 30% of genuinely, actually diagnosable, mentally ill people.
I dont know why people expect insane social waste to behave properly online.
Also note SEA is so overrepresented that companies made ID specific branches. This is because SEA has the highest crossrate of schizophrenia and english in the world.

>>16182963
>If Kronii or Mumeii got canned tomorrow, i bet you 80+% of /vt/ would be celebrating or at least explaining how now, Council can grow
more like the board would be filled with threads made by people falseflagging as niji or other hololive fanbases celebrating it

>>16179075
One other thing is that the overwhelming number of vtuber fans started with Holo EN, and don't know anything about Aloe or stupid drama on /jp/. So I think both of those reasons for disliking the other company or it's fans come from a loud minority. Other than that there's the zero-sum mentality, that the success of one side can only come with the failure of the other. There is probably a limit to how big vtubers can get, but that a little less of that attitude from the fans and management would probably help.

>>16181523
No, it was the nijiniggers who doxed her, harassed and threatened her and her family because she said things about Niji in her past life. A lot of newfags pretending they were around back then ITT.

>>16183429
There is 0 seethe here. Coco died on a hill called "I can't change China, but i sure can piss them off"
The irony is that's the ONLY thing Hololive harp on as some golden-clad armor of divine power for why Cover isn't some pitch-black company
>Half of Holostars gets thrown out, the rest kept in a corner? Seems fine
>Chris and Aloe are literal sluts for their tech to get a decent job? Lets talk about one while burying the other, and make sure to skimp on her being an ultra-whore who boasted about cumming to her boyfriends big dick
>HoloCN gets disbanded? something something, one of them was a chicom, so tack that on to shitty business deals and Capcom slapping us via some antis, and lets shut the whole wing down
>HoloEN's more vocal girls are literally telling their fans that Manager-sans JENMa and ENMa are keeping them in gilded cages? uhh.....NIJINIGGERS!!!

>>16183671
>>16183557
I almost envy how rent-free nijisanji is in your heads. They're the Red Right Hand, The Illuminati, the Freemasons, the Rothschilds, the Mossad, and CIA all wrapped into one ultra-elite team sniping literal who talents with the single most ineffective form of harassment, hinging entirely on the girls inability to ignore, ban, or cope

>>16183671
She was being attacked for supposedly having a boyfriend, and hololive management either wanted her gone or didn't have the miniscule amount of balls needed to defend her.

>>16183688
Taiwan is a country and no normal person even thinks twice about it, let alone throws a shitfit like you did.

>Chris and Aloe are literal sluts for their tech to get a decent job?
This narrative shit makes it even more obvious that you're a CCP drone.

>>16183688
If you actually watch HoloEN you'd share the girls' opinion of management being absolutely retarded. >we do not have a history of bad blood with Nijisanji and I do not plan to partake in the ancient wars you had in /jp/.

>>16183767
why did you (You) me?

>>16183688
please understand that any criticism of hololive automatically makes you chinese. thats how it goes now.

>>16183853
Who else but a Chinese nationalist is going to get butthurt because someone mentions Taiwan?

>>16180065
Very based

>>16180065
dangerously based

>>16183810
>Shit fit
lol where? show me my own shitfit.

>CCP
Am i CCP or Nijinigger? Are nijiniggers CCP? Are the CCP avid Nijisanji viewers?
Your accusations are all over the place, anon. Do you need some time to cobble this accusation a bit better?

>>16180127
The most ironic thing about Aloe incidents was that for the first time ever, both Holobronies and Nijiniggers in Japan actually agreed with each other and united to get rid of Aloe. Of course you nigger know nothing about vtuber scene after all.

>>16183901
No one gives a shit about Taiwan beyond Chinese shills, and even then they seem to only care if you correct "Chinese Taipei" shit they love to drum out

>>16183767
>They're the Red Right Hand, The Illuminati, the Freemasons, the Rothschilds, the Mossad, and CIA all wrapped into one ultra-elite team
No, that's Reddit

>>16183968
Shhh anon, Aloe is a saint, a beacon of light to rally against Nijisanji, despite their being literal 0 proof anyone from any camp targetting her, and it being basically everyone collectively saying "Aloe you're fucking gross, stop"

>>16183955
You as in China.

>Am i CCP or Nijinigger?
I never said anything about nijisanji. Anyway you're a CCP drone and there's no use denying it. Taiwan is a country.

>>16184004
>No one gives a shit about Taiwan beyond Chinese shills
I.e. >>16183688

>>16184071
Aloe's videos had about a 50/50 like/dislike ratio, and reddit was supportive of her. This is important because there's really no vtuber fandom outside of reddit.

>>16184082
>I.e. >>16183688
Taiwan is mentioned 0 times in that...or even referenced or alluded to...

>>16184135
Oh yeah, he didn't explicitly mention Taiwan so he must not have been talking about that.

>they will die on some hill about a menhera orange dragon basically inviting her managers, Yagoo, and China to beat her into the ground, as some hero
He could have meant anything!

>>16183901
redditors usually. i dont think even chinese nationalists or taiwanese care this much about taiwan.
hololive being an extremely shady company with absolute dogshit management that insists on solving every internal problem by firing people has been known since it was founded. since july saying this also gets you called chicom because of ogeyrrat gosling eekumbokum redditors.
all criticism in that post is true and valid. you're mentally ill and need to bring up taiwan every time coco is mentioned.

>>16184201
You do realize Chinese antis existed before the Haachama incident right? They attached Taiwan as a + to their "reasoning", but before that they just hated Haachama and Coco for being crass and vulgar. It wasn't or isn't even just Coco, why the fuck are you so horny for her and think the wars over? Aqua, Marine, Miko, Botan, basically all of ID are subjected to Chinese antis near every time they stream, but all you do is pretend you know shit because some retard on /jp/ told you it all started with Taiwan?

Dude, do you even know the content for which you are so erroneously trying to defend?

>>16179075
It's just a proxy to their failing console wars on /v/

>>16179075>Why /vt want vtubers from different agencies to fail?
Dont know about /vt/ but /jp/ /hlg/ mourned when Lulu retired and told me to fuck off back when someone screenshotted an EN indie Tweeting on how she failed HoloEN audition and that she auditioned for NijiEN when I said we(jp hlg) should plot to cancel her if she make it as a joke.

>>16184329
No, not redditors. Obviously it's CCP drones who are going to take offense at this. Who do you think you're fooling here, Chang?

>>16184356
>t wasn't or isn't even just Coco, why the fuck are you so horny for her and think the wars over?
Huh?

>all you do is pretend you know shit because some retard on /jp/ told you it all started with Taiwan?
Obviously the Taiwan incident started with the Taiwan incident.

>Dude, do you even know the content for which you are so erroneously trying to defend?
Don't try to gaslight me, Chang.

>>16184514
Theres simply no way youre not another mentally ill seanigger shitting up the board pretending to be an assmad redditor. Youre only making the board worse for the rest of us.
Kill yourself.

>>16184514
>Everyone's chang now
At some point, this anon will actually form a logical argument

>>16184628
I'm white, unlike you, and I never said or implied anything to the contrary. Kill yourself Chang, maybe that will help you finally get over your Taiwan psychosis.

>>16184635
But you factually are. Nobody else is going to get upset over Coco mentioning Taiwan.

>>16179075
This thread is a joke vt is fucking filled with hololive threads comparing the two from an english perspective is retarded

>>16179075
Hololive has a big monopoly concentrated within few streamers using basically the same formula.
This constrains the majority of the vtuber industry and audience to their rules.
If Hololive can be made to fall, a big amount of other companies and indies will benefit, bringing much needed variety in ideas, games and personalities. This way a new golden era can be brought to the vtuber medium instead of being stagnated as of right now with Hololive.

>>16184701
You're a retard and i really shouldn't, but fuck it
You need to actually link me to the part where i was mad about Taiwan.
I'm mad everyone sucks Coco's dick, despite her basically inviting extreme forms of criticism from literally everyone and daring Management to penalize her
She wasn't brave as soon as she shifted the narrative to "How far can i go". No one faults her for defending Haato/Haachama, everyone with a functioning brain faults her for shifting that narrative to garner more $ and more views and to basically leave Yagoo with a black eye on her leaving despite Him being in the dark about how shitty JP management were treating her

So again, you dipshit, no one cares about Taiwan and your 3 response flashcard is in sore need of updating

>>16183818
>>we do not have a history of bad blood with Nijisanji and I do not plan to partake in the ancient wars you had in /jp/.
One day NijiEN and HoloEN will collab, and it will be a hilarious day to be on /vt/ and watch as the walls come down and the antis reach levels never-before-seen

>>16184813
What monopoly are they supposed to have?

>>16184834
>You need to actually link me to the part where i was mad about Taiwan.
>despite her basically inviting extreme forms of criticism
Right there.

>So again, you dipshit, no one cares about Taiwan
Stop lying, Chang.

>>16184834
NGA ana Artiafags told otherwise.
KYS retard Chang yot cannot fool us here

>>16184913
You are too stupid for words anon

>>16184950
NGA and Artiafags told otherwise.
They really care to bring Holofall happen
KYS retard Chang yot cannot fool us here

>>16184990
No, I'm actually not stupid for seeing the obvious fact that you're a CCP drone getting assblasted over Taiwan.

every time i see reddit's nu/pol/ brigade come here and /jp/ and derail threads to talk about taiwan and call everyone that disagrees a chink i understand twitter chink apologist tankies more and more
i hope the mutts and chinks nuke eachother over their shitpile island factory so we can get back on track
all fields

>>16185032
You're the ones who brought up Coco and Taiwan: >>16182963

>>16185032
> Chink is mindset not race nor country.

You are moron

>>16179075
Every board has company wars and it's just as silly there.

>>16185087
That entire post validates her defense against the Chinese antis you absolute fucking moron

>thread calling out tribalfags
>devolves into shitflinging about Chris and China
What did they mean by this?

>>16185026
>>16185026
Still have yet to see this assblasting or being mad about Taiwan.

Simply mentioning it does not constitute anger

>>16185179
Some retard got a babby's first guide to Holofaggotry, so he takes any conversation involving Coco and assumes anyone who doesn't bow to her, are Chang CCP Nijinigger Chicoms

>>16185155
>which again re-emphasizes this weird ass mentality of Hololive where they will die on some hill about a menhera orange dragon basically inviting her managers, Yagoo, and China to beat her into the ground, as some hero
>Are you trying to assume people who think Coco was hamming up her drama for exit ticket sales is automatically some deep root Chinese ultra-nationalist?
>Coco died on a hill called "I can't change China, but i sure can piss them off" The irony is that's the ONLY thing Hololive harp on as some golden-clad armor of divine power for why Cover isn't some pitch-black company
Ok moron.

>>16185191
See >>16182963

>>16185238
You're the ones who brought up Coco and Taiwan: >>16182963, and only CCP drones are mad about her mentioning Taiwan. Try again Chang. Also I still never said anything about nijisanji.

>>16185238
Only chinks or Artia/Civiafags mad about this

>>16185237
>Missing the entire point of the greentext posted
You're a retard, and it's amazing you are able to make an argument out of nothing, but here
Huge ass hint, It's not about mentioning Taiwan, it's about Taiwan being the ONLY thing people want to remember about Coco

>>16179075
I honestly hated tribalism and defended nijikeks all the way until the males came out. thanks to them cover will probably push for homostarsEN to become a thing and leech off Myth.
fuck nijiniggers desu

>>16185366
Your gaslighting attempts are humorous at best. Taiwan is a country by the way.

>>16185238
Thats every day on this board. If you give them attention they wont go back to r*ddit.

>>16185427
See >>16185285. And telling someone to go back to re-ddit in the context of vtubers doesn't work, because that's the only place that has any kind of real vtuber fandom.

>>16185426
>"Gasligthting" because i'm too retarded to read
>"Chang" because how dare you not like Coco
>"Taiwan is a country" because my argument makes no sense if i realize i've been getting mad about someone mentioning Taiwan but not being mad about it
Did i run into a bot? Why are these the only responses this anon is making?

>>16185285
>And Taiwan
>Taiwan isn't mentioned at all
uhh?

>>16185469
Then go back to where your fandom is, retard. Why are you wasting time arguing about some chinese island with people that get paid to argue about the chinese island?
Are you retarded? You people have got to be the dumbest kind of tourist.

>>16185555
checked

>>16185512
I didn't fail to read anything.

>"Chang" because how dare you not like Coco
Chang because you're against Coco specifically because she mentioned Taiwan.

>"Taiwan is a country" because my argument makes no sense if i realize i've been getting mad about someone mentioning Taiwan but not being mad about it
Of course you're mad about it. Otherwise we wouldn't even be talking about this.

>Did i run into a bot? Why are these the only responses this anon is making?
CCP drone actually accusing other of being bots.

>>16185555
>he didn't explicitly mention Taiwan, so he could have been referring to anything!
Pathetic, Chang.

>>16185579
Keep seething, Chang.

>>16185579
>Then go back to where your fandom is, retard
That makes too much sense anon. Surely staying on /vt/ and calling everyone a change or nijinigger or chicom is the better alternative than being part of a fanbase that actually enjoys their talents' content

>>16185680
Still have no idea where you are getting this nijinigger stuff from, since I never used that word anywhere or talked about nijisanji in general. Care to explain, Chang?

>>16185679
>Chang because you're against Coco specifically because she mentioned Taiwan.
Except the greentext explains how she literally used the Haachama/Taiwan incident later to push views and $
>Of course you're mad about it. Otherwise we wouldn't even be talking about this.
Now, i'm really not. I'm getting confused why you keep thinking this though
>CCP drone actually accusing other of being bots.
I'm the only one in this convo that has unique conversation and talking points. Dunno what the opposite of a nijinigger chang is for you, but you must be it. Maybe a /vt/ former mod? Maybe Omega?

>>16185679
China hated vtubers long before Akai Haato fucked up anon. China has many reasons to hate Cover in general (Like say for example, axing their entire CN branch?)

>>16185734
>Gets mad about adding "nijinigger"
>Still imagines the other anon is mad about taiwan
Quality

>>16185774
>Except the greentext explains how she literally used the Haachama/Taiwan incident later to push views and $
That's just your Chang narrative because you're mad at her for Taiwan.

>Now, i'm really not. I'm getting confused why you keep thinking this though
Give it up, Chang. Only CCP drones are upset about this.

>I'm the only one in this convo that has unique conversation and talking points.
I assure you that there is nothing unique about what you are doing.

>Dunno what the opposite of a nijinigger chang is for you, but you must be it. Maybe a /vt/ former mod? Maybe Omega?
No idea what you're talking about.

>>16185816
We're not talking about vtubers or cover, we're talking about Coco.

>>16185856
I didn't "get mad," I said:
>Still have no idea where you are getting this nijinigger stuff from, since I never used that word anywhere or talked about nijisanji in general. Care to explain, Chang?
So do you have an explanation or not?

>Still imagines the other anon is mad about taiwan
He is and so are you.

good board

>>16185905
>replying to obvious bait
at least sage your posts

>>16186009
I didn't reply to any bait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajD191OUAXk also haachama and hoshikawa are doing an offcolab today

>>16186037
you been replying to the same troll for the last half hour or so.
put the word "sage" in the options field of your post form.

>>16185774

Meant for you >>16186009
Sage your posts.

>>16185863
You said
>he didn't explicitly mention Taiwan, so he could have been referring to anything!
Anon, you're a fucking moron, but here's the lowdown
China hates basically anything Japan does, and they doubly hate when their citizens are watching balloon tittied girls take their money on Youtube instead of Blibli or whatever it's called
China hated Cover long before the stream you keep seeming to magically attritube to every single bad thing that happened to Coco ever. China was and still is a huge thorn in Covers side because they were/are constantly trying to siphon views, talent, and money from Cover and yes, even Nijisanji to their own groups
So when the anon said "china" and also had Coco in the mix, it doesn't automatically mean "Taiwan incident". It could be the one of 10+ bad business deals China tried to fuck over on, the disbanding of HoloCN, The "holocaust" everyone attributed to China, the Chinese anti-website being discovered and meme'd on by the japanese and korean 4chan equivalents, all of which coco had a mix in to some capacity

To make a long story short, you are SEVERELY uninformed and you need to stop assuming The Haato incident is a huge focal point. It was A point, but not THE point, holoCN being broken up in one swoop would be the more likely candidate

>>16186167
>Anon, you're a fucking moron
No, you're a moron for thinking this ridiculous gaslighting is going to work on me. He was talking about Taiwan and there's nothing else he could have been talking about.

>China hated Cover long before the stream you keep seeming to magically attritube to every single bad thing that happened to Coco ever.
We are specifically talking about Coco and Taiwan, Chang.

>So when the anon said "china" and also had Coco in the mix, it doesn't automatically mean "Taiwan incident".
Yes it does, Chang.

>To make a long story short, you are SEVERELY uninformed
This is not going to work on me no matter how long you keep it up.

Taiwan is a country.

>>16186331
>Taiwan is a country
Yes, yes it is. What does that have to do with anything though?
No one is debating its existence

>>16186440
It has to do with you being butthurt that Taiwan is a country and that Coco mentioned Taiwan by name.

>>16179075
Literally every single discussion on 4chan MUST devolve into a pointless tribal war. It doesn't matter what it is.

>>16186490
That was Haato/Haachama, retard

>>16186494
It's not even a tribal war at this point, it's one anon explaining the history of Coco, and the other anon calling everyone chang

>>16180065

>>16186516
It was also Coco, Chang. Why do you keep doing this? Why do you think it's going to work?

>>16179075
the only vtuber "agency" i want to fall is vshoujo

>>16186574
The fact that you have to be corrected this many times for your shitty ass history is the real reason why /vt/ deserves to be deleted.
So many dipshits with a sparknotes booklette on what went down, pretending to be their
THAT'S the agitating part
I bet you hate on Nijisanji too because your fucking little booklette tells you to

>>16180535
General, our oshi stop streaming for 3 days! A shamefur dispray!

>>16186644
I want HoloEN and NijiEN to break off. Maybe the same for the ID's, mostly because the cultures are just way too different

>>16186646
You didn't correct me anywhere, Chang.

>So many dipshits with a sparknotes booklette on what went down, pretending to be their
I was there and know exactly what happened. Just stop. This is not going to work, ever. You cannot gaslight me. It's just not going to happen.

>I bet you hate on Nijisanji too because your fucking little booklette tells you to
Why do you keep bringing up nijisanji? I never said anything about them. And what booklet?

>>16186574
>How to disassemble this retards' name calling in one simple go

>>16186709
What are you even trying to do now, Chang?

>>16186706
>I was there and know exactly what happened
>Proceeds to get literally every point of the Coco fiasco wrong or so glossed over, it basically just has the words "Taiwan" and "Coco"
One, you need to learn what gaslighting means and is
Two, you very clearly weren't there
Three, the fact that you have to ask "what booklet" leads me to believe you're so dumb you might actually start looking for one

>>16186766
You know nothing of CCP, and it shows.

>>16186778
I didn't get anything wrong, Chang.

>One, you need to learn what gaslighting means
I know exactly what it means.

>Two, you very clearly weren't there
You cannot gaslight me. Not now, not ever.

>Three, the fact that you have to ask "what booklet" leads me to believe you're so dumb you might actually start looking for one
Yeah because people must be "dumb" for not understanding your schizo nonsense.

>>16186809
Ok Chang. By the way, Taiwan is a country.

You know, the craziest part of Coco, is that everyone acts like she died right then and there on her graduation day, but despite being the easiest vtuber to "know" in her "second life", she has nowhere near the numbers in viewership

>>16186853
>Ok Chang. By the way, Taiwan is a country.
I think i might know more about Taiwan if i am not the one stuck scratching my ass over the flag of the country i keep proclaiming is a country

>>16186915
Taiwan is a country. Seethe, Chang.

>>16186915
the only thing you know about Taiwan is how to VPN out of it

>>16186915

>>16181374
The only thing you can do is pump money solely into holoEN girls who don’t collab with males and stop spending money on those who do. Hololive is a business and they’re going to buy into males because it seems profitable. Your only choice is to prove them wrong.

>>16186956
....you wanna try that one again?
>>16186955
So you're basically stuck in a loop now, got it

>>16187007
If you don't like it then stop seething over the fact that Taiwan is a country.

>>16186956
Why the fuck would he be a CCP AND VPN'ing out of Taiwan?

>>16187042
I'm starting to think you are so in over your head, this is your only argument. You can gimme that copypasta Tiananmen square stuff now

>>16180205
>>16180791
>>16182430
>>16183968
Nijiniggers not only are newfags, they also love trying to rewrite history
Aloe antis didn't harass her just because she had a boyfriend or she made dick sashimi, or she leaked her model in another streaming platform. The main reason was this twitcast from her previous character talking about Chitose's graduation and making nijisanji look like a black company. Nijiniggers then started attacking her en masse and most of them posed as unicorn idolfags and joined the small group of holo fans wanting her to graduate because she had a boyfriend.
There was also a niji translator that demanded an apology from Aloe for spreading misinformation about Chitose's graduation
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/ibvy9m/an_attempt_to_debunk_aloes_twitcast_video/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

>>16187192
>Plebbit
>And virtualyoutuber to boot
Chang, this is some advanced checkers you're playing here, but no one here believes re-ditt

>>16187172
What "argument" do I need, Chang? All you're doing is seething over the fact that Taiwan is a country.

>>16187192
There's the nijinigger thing again. Nobody has even attempted to explain how that's supposed to relate to me.

>most of them posed as unicorn idolfags
Meaning that you admit Aloe was harassed for allegedly having a boyfriend.

>>16179075
i think you don't understand /vt schizos, is not that they want other companies to fail, they want their own favorite company to fail to, at the end of the day everyone have 1 oshi and they may care or not about the other members which are many in both companies

>>16187192
>reddit
lol

>>16184890
>One day NijiEN and HoloEN will collab
That'll only happen when Hololive has less overall numbers than Niji, that's basically impossible and will never happen. The only Nijis that can collab with Holo now are Shiina, Sasaki, Inui, Hoshikawa, and the reason they still collab doesn't have anything to do with vtuber business, they only collab because they're friends irl. The Holo that used to collab with males only did because they want the numbers, and when the male doesn't have the numbers to offer anymore, they just cut off all contact and went back to their own bubble.

Real zhang and NGA here

Both of you are retard.
We just do it for fun.
What wrong if we want do fun thing ?

Who care about humanity or morale
We are monster. We are Werewolf Warrior. We are legion.

We will make Fubuki graduate and Haachama is next.

Foxhond

>>16187258
Here we go, let's start this clean and fresh since apparently it's devolved into >Chang and >Retard
I: Did not like Coco, regardless of China or Taiwan or Managers, or Black company
She was loud and obnoxious and seemed to want to agitate people for kicks (Reine Collab with her comes to mind). And my belief is that she used her debacles with China as a podium to draw more attention to her as she had already planned her exit
You: I still don't know because you never stated to liking Coco, only that 1) Taiwan is a country (Despite you not recognizing its flag) and 2) I'm a Chang because i don't like Coco

>>16187383
>Despite you not recognizing its flag
I never said one word about its flag, Chang. You are pathetic.

>I'm a Chang because i don't like Coco
You're a Chang because you don't like Coco because she mentioned Taiwan.

>>16187339
HoloID and NijiID just had a Siska/Reine collab
They very much will have a collab (Holo/NijiEN) if the logic checks out, despite Omega's protests. Far too much money can be made from it, and the data is showing that there's not enough significant overlap from the viewerbases to risk "losing" viewership numbers on a noticeable level

>>16187452
>>16186766

>>16187383
Reine had fun tho
t. Merekyat

>>16179298
>latin america
wut

>>16187507
Yes, I wrote that post. What about it?

You guys think too much
We just want make her suicides and an hero her for our fun.
We will spread lie and make 4chan call her as whore and erase her from Vtuber indusrtry.

We are Legion
We are everywhere

>>16187348
Mr. Zhang,
Please understand
You are on the holobrony board
A board composed of seaniggers, latams and redditors
Good for you, china kicked hololive out, along with the idolfags
Now go back and watch a-soul

>>16187543
That you're a retard that doesn't recognize the Taiwanese flag

>>16187582
Where did I say anything like that?

>>16187573
Yes, I love how your 4channiggers fight each others and let us kill your oshi 1 by 1

Thank you for your kindness.
You guys make our work easier

>>16187573
We slained your Reddit tskk and we will hunt traitor fox and our beloved Akwa. We will make more targets until Hololive and Nijisanjin totally defeated

You can not stop us anyway

For glory to our nation

>>16187256
>>16187275
>>16187258
>muh reddit
Nice deflection, nijiniggers. I gave you the timeline and instead you choose to ignore it and try to fit in
She was not the first holo with a bf (Watame switch, Towa male voice call) and that leak barely riled people up.
What started the harassment was that leaked old twitcast where she basically called nijisanji a black company. Suddenly, lots of nijiniggers came out of nowhere calling her a liar, that she wasn't friends with Chitose and her version contradicted the official version. Then these same nijiniggers started posing as holo fans concernfagging as unicorns (new Twitter accounts or old ones following nijis) to give the bf rrat more visibility, which attracted unicorns that never watched hololive and antis.

>>16188511
And there is the nijisanji thing again. Is anyone even going to attempt to explain how I'm supposed to be related to nijisanji? And where did I say anything about reddit in that post?

>What started the harassment was
The allegation that she had a boyfriend, as you just admitted yourself.

>>16180065
/thread

>>16188583
>The allegation that she had a boyfriend, as you just admitted yourself.
Of course the niji nigger has 0 reading comprehension. The harassment started because of THE TWITCAST SHITTING ON NIJISANJI AS BLACK COMPANY
The nijiniggers harassed her with that
Then they added fake unicorn harassment
Fucking retard

>>16188691
Of course you keep babbling on about me somehow being related to nijisanji while strenuously avoiding explaining what that's supposed to be based on.

>The harassment started because
Because she allegedly had a boyfriend. You admitted this.

Something something Aloe something something Coco
Don't even have to read this dogshit thread to know there's mentally ill faggots spewing these as justifications for hate

>>16188691
As unicorns, it's time for us to accept the blackness of all companies.

>>16183968
>>16184071
People forget that Aloe is called one of Vtuber Voldermort in JP.

I can read this stupid fag fanbase all day lmao, thanks for the free entertainment

Reddit is the superior community. Death to 4chan faggots

This thread prove that tribalnigger who use Aloe is a newfag who was not even there when shit happened and got all information from third hand reddit thread.

>>16188785
I just hate companies that enable fags and trannies, but also gives Omega the idea that people want HomoEN. Niggersanji has to go

>>16190269
One of my favorite 4chan cliches is the guy who is mad at someone but is too afraid to directly confront or name them.

>>16189816
How do I upvote this

I rarely watch vtubers outside Nijisanji, but I don't wish ill on Hololive or any other company/indie. At worst I ignore their existence. Local holofans consider my oshi a talentless backstabbing whore who should be pushed to graduation, and I found niji threads outside the generals often unviable due to them being swarmed by holofans spreading rrats and shitposting, so for months now I've filtered for the main niji generals on the board catalog and ignored the rest of /vt/ entirely. This thread passed the filter so I took a peek out of curiosity, but it doesn't look like anything's changed for the better.

>>16190721
rosebud?

>>16179075
Should really unite against vshitshow anyway.

>>16182360
Nah, the reason is just simple, holobronies are insecure of their past of leeched nijisanji and other popular corpos, indies and chinks, they can't accept the fact that their girls and their company had a history of leeched and are two-faced bitches who would start ghosting people after they became popular. They need to justify their hatred against every other fanbases. Hating nijisanji becomes hololive's fanbase identity at this point
That's why you rarely seeing nijifans badmouth other fanbases and they are capable of watching other vtubers not from nijisanji

>>16179075
Dunno, ask the american. They are willing to destroy their friendship over politic, of course they also willing to destroy it because of vtuber.

>>16182464
Lmao you aren't around the old/jp/ vtuber thread either, hololive was a fucking nobody that they hardly had anti in these thread, even Haneru has more antis than entire hololive combined at that time. Stopped larping faggot

>>16187192
Literally rewriting history. This is what happen when you don't do your reps.
Aloe has been on flame before nijifags. Holofags has been burning her because boyfriend and being a slut on twitter, even talk about disgusting thing about sex, including bestiality, albeit she was talking about a friend and her dog.
The nijifag only catch up 3 days after that, which the focus move to chitose. For 3 whole days it has always about aloe herself.

>>16191581
Blow it out your ass

>>16179075
Welcome to nu-chan, everything is consolewars for no reason now

>>16188970
That's Sio. JP don't even remember what happened with Aloe anymore. Nowadays most of them believe that she was fired for leaking confidential information and only that.

>>16191839
>including bestiality, albeit she was talking about a friend and her dog.
source?

>>16191903
Link me that radio(?) she did with other girl that you guys leak, and I will listen to it again and tell you the minute.
Unfortunately I no longer have the link.

>>16191839
Also the test stream. Which is what people now know more since it's the official reason for her apology. I might be wrong since the vid is already gone from NND but didn't the Dedechi video of her talking about Chitose got uploaded to NND shorty after her debut?

I like both Mika Melatika and Moona Hoshinova, and I secretly want them to collab.

>>16191029
I think it's funny that there're more people defending nijisanji now after the debut of nijiEN, before that you can talk about any narrative shit and people will believe you and agreed to shit on nijisanji, really tell off how thing will change when you able to understand the content and invest into them

>>16192259
The NND video about chitose only going wild at the 3rd days after the nijifag and kamitsubakifag catch up. At first it has always around aloe her own, at least thats what been discussed on 5ch.

>>16180714
that only makes me like her more wtf

>>16191548
>had a history of leeched and are two-faced bitches who would start ghosting people after they became popular
I'm preeeeeeetty sure everyone did this including Niji, at least the more popular ones. I don't know why trolls like to use this as an excuse to shit on Hololive so much when it's normal for people to not interact when they have nothing to gain from it.

>>16191581
Shut up and eat your bat soup Zhang

Everybody in here Is larping, including myself, no one hates anyone

>>16195006
Americans hate anything and anyone that Is not América for some fucking reason, their country Is corrupt to the ground and a shithole yet they still talk down on poorer countries