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General numberfag sites>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>50,982: Gura (Hololive)>47,857: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>38,726: Calli (Hololive)>32,958: Watson (Hololive)>31,352: Ina (Hololive)>26,490: Kiara (Hololive)>21,666: Kiara (Hololive)>11,387: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>>16154436Mysta with the only 10k+ solo non-event stream. This is very worthy of kneeling.
>>16154620It didn't medal. It didn't even get an EN medal. It did get the Nijisanji silver though.
>>16154620Go back to your containment thread, nigger. We only kneel to those who get the highest numbers here.
>>16154819Cope
Nousagi complaining to @TeamYouTube about being flaggedhttps://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1480253660487639046
>>16154390>THE NUMBERS MASON
>>16154948based numbersagi kek taking after their oshi
>>16154988Checked
just now i noticed how low nijien males vod views are compared to their ccv.>>16154948keeping the rpessure going
>>16154948Inb4 "you need to be logged in to count towards the live viewer count"
>>16154436Is Mysta the new KING now that the previous KING can't get 10k?
>>16154390nice thread LMAO
>>16155028>just now i noticed how low nijien males vod views are compared to their ccvIt's pretty fucking good. Mysta is going to get 100% of his subs to watch the RingFit VOD at this rate.
>>16154948>The only fanbase that is trying with YouTube I kneel, fuck everyone here who keep crying without doing something
>>16154948Numbersagi save us
I think Kiara stroke a goldmine today.
>>16155107im tlaking in general having one buff stream doesnt erease the whole recline since last week.
>>16154436>>50,982: Gura (Hololive)>>47,857: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>>38,726: Calli (Hololive)>>32,958: Watson (Hololive)>>31,352: Ina (Hololive)>>26,490: Kiara (Hololive)>>21,666: Kiara (Hololive)>>11,387: Mysta (Nijisanji)why do you post this shit when we know these numbers are 100% wrong, and might be off by as much as x3 too low?
600k on Gura’s outfit vod now. To compare, Chloe’s outfit reveal 8 days ago has 500k. Gura’s hasn’t even hit a full day yet. This outfit reveal has some crazy growth
>>16155337It is ONLY for historical record, but all of these fucking things need the disclaimer, which was missed this time.
>>16155384Didn't her first one hit a million in less than a day?
>>16155279What recline? They're all in line with the amount of CCV he gets (except for the Petra collab). This one will hit 140k+ for sure, surpassing his current subs.
>>16155384Clickbait. Also Gura being a weirdo.
>>16155564The 194k one? Yeah, but having that high a peak and it being an hr long will so that. Pekora’s 184k was 1.1 or 1.2 million after processing and it was 1hr 30 mins long too, so I guess you can use that as reference as well for just how good this reveal’s growth has been
>>16154900>Mumei Meme Review>8k CCV>194k VOD views>Mysta Ring Fit>11k CCV>90k VOD viewsLMAO Nijikek
>>16155337For completion so we can still have a complete medal chart for the week/month/year.
>>16155779>VOD cope the holobro special
>>16155564Can't compare that with NYE outfit (after NYE, in dogshit timeslot, for 30 minutes only), it's why even if we had real CCV it would have been lower than her last outfit, let alone the first one
How are we coping today?
>>16155977look at the last thread
>16155930>The chink and dramafag is backEnjoy the thread losers
>>16155337Use vods to calculate the possible range, estimate the cull based off of typical watch time per user (11 minutes is what we have on record from Fumi of Nijisanji and 10 minutes from Pikamee, probably way longer for event streams), and compare it to similar pre-cull streams and establish a range you can get a probability distribution. That's too much work to just make an educated guess though. Usually this ends up as being anywhere from 2.8-4.2 times the CCV we see.
>>16155779Mumei has like 4 times the amount of subs Mysta hasCope
Man these threads still arent quite as bad as when coco died and then old numberfag website back then also died at almost the same time. However its pretty impressive how bad one person can make it.
>>16155655>it will gorwth 50% over the span of how long?you get 300 every 5min ASSUMING it doesnt slow down
>>16156071Welcome back ratio nigger! Now go back into whatever hole you crawled out of.
>>16155779>Comparing VODs of different durations before processing is finishedYou're a failure of a numberfag.
>>16156071Fuck off, ratio fag,
Festival has less than 100 subs left and it's still crawling at a snail's pace... I don't think all of them have realised yet that it's a lot harder getting new subs now than it was from late 2020 to mid 2021
>>16156370thanks I just subbed
>Gura outfit sc mogged by two NijiEN dudes doing regular stuffYou WILL kneel to Manjisanji. You will acknowledge penis power.
>>16156304is a 50 min stream that already slowed that to 300 every 5min and will slow down even more as time goes. it already ququed its views.
>>16156432Merch is the new meta now, newfag.
>>16156085I predicted Mysta would be the first NijiEN to get solo 10k (with a karaoke tho, not RFA), but I should've also predicted how shit the thread would be.Not sure which is worse, the samefagging retard who reeks of desperation or the insecure holofags pathetically trying to downplay a major achievement by a NijiEN member.
>>16155337Since cutting has affected everyone, this will not change the position in the table.
Us Ripplechads literally can't stop winning
>>16156432Actually, the outfit sc was even worse. It's still counting the sc she got in her Mario Kart streams, so Vox mogged it too.
Us ripplechads literally can't stop winning
>>16156728>XRP 1000$ the global currency of the elite any day now you'll see
>>16156541i mean if people paint the makor achivement in comparision to others urrent ccv with problem IS BOUND to get shit on.
>>16155239Kiara has always been getting good SC numbers. It's just even more now after she directly appealed to the KR crowd. Since those guys throw out more money on average than the westerners for less effort, it would be dumb to ignore them. Kiara knows how to play this game.
>>16156658wouldnt hat mean you wont need to coun shu and ike 100k celebration?
>>16155279Other NijiEN males have reclined, Mysta has not.
>>16156541>holofags pathetically trying to downplay a major achievement by a NijiEN memberHas it ever occurred to you that people just don't give a fuck about that milestone like if ever vshojo would get 20k, it's not really something to brag about in a thread where getting 100k at least once a week is the norm?
>>16155337How about we instead crown the daily winner based on how closely their ccv graph resembles the Nike logo
>>16156728How the fuck they're viewbotting like this, I tried but it didn't work for me.
>>16156728>YT flagged every user as bots except for the actual botss-sugoi.... i kneel to the power of pajeet coding!
>>16156728Why ripple?
>>16156775At the point, everyone knows about CCVID.If you bite bait comparing unculled NijiEN male numbers to culled numbers, you're the retard.Newfags don't have any self restraint.
>>16156917>everyone knows about CCVID.doesnt change the anture of the persons hereif i go compare pekora to gura it will be a sitstorm still with or without ccvid.People will shit on nijimales if they do shit ass comparisions no matter the context. you accept it and the move to next topic.
>>16156541I didnt downplay it in the thread it happened, I dropped my usual vegeta kneel because it was a great accomplishment for nijiEN but the samefag retard has shit up 2 entire threads so far so nobody cares any discussion around it was literally drowned out by a dude aiming his asshole everywhere and shitting on literally everything so nobody wants to talk about it now.
>>16156887their marketing team has attracted the most devout schizophrenics and turned them into full on tribalists who will die for their coin of choice regardless of how much better other projects around them performthere are a lot of similarities with holobronies now that I think about it
>>16156850>people just don't give a fuck about that milestoneKek how new are you? People in /#/ have been waiting for the first NijiEN stream to break 10k for months.Don't need to shit up the thread just because you don't care, retard.>it's not really something to brag about in a thread where getting 100k at least once a week is the normHe says in a thread where people used to celebrate low-tier Holos/VSPOs getting good numbers once in a while.Must be either a newfag or a hypocrite.
>>16157072You mean nijisanji
>>16156835So Mysta is the Selen of males?
>>16156541Ignoring the one shitposter who was spamming "holo btfo" on cooldown and people getting baited by it, I don't think there was much downplaying going onI do think it's really funny that their first 10k stream was a male member doing a coomer bait stream though, I don't think anyone could have predicted that
>>16157108>People in /#/ have been waiting for the first NijiEN stream to break 10k for months.Speak for yourself, retard. Also Petra already did that, newfag.
>>16157162to be honest coomer streams are the only things keeping vox and mysta from reclining and they will run out of them eventually as repeated instances wont do as good. it was kinda expected just like with karaoke
>>16156071And (you) # still believe that she got less viewers
>>16157162I downplayed it because the numbers are fradulent since he isn't getting culled. Mumei got 8k CCV on her meme stream and she has 194k VOD views. The unculled Nijifaggot only has 90k VOD views. Not an impressive number.
>>16157072You probably meant Manjisanji, anon.You ask Holofags what they like about their oshi and they'll answer you what's good about them.You ask the same question to a Nijinigger and they'll explain why they're better than Holos.
>>16157108>celebrate shit numbers>get shit on>complain b-but numbers threadevery time, from matsuri to vspo to nijien
>>16157155what the hell happened to selen anyway nobody ever talks about her anymore after the nijimales debut
>>16157417seleniggers swapped to being mystaniggers because they arent actually fans of them just their numbers while hating Hololive hoping for its downfall
>>16157051Fair enough, it's a shame because /#/ was actually bearable for the past few days in terms of baits.>>16157162Maybe before debut, but after the first week, it was obvious that either Mysta or Vox was going to get the first solo 10k stream. >>16157206>9.6k>collab with Mayuzumi and Lauren who did most of the heavy liftingAt least check before posting, newfag
I can't believe Susan is a Nijifag...
>>16157417shea lready did all the buffs she couldkaraoke, apex tourneys, collabs, getting drunk,etcshe needs to come with another idea.
>>16157482Oh, Petra actually didn't get it. My bad. Meh, I really don't give a fuck. Now go fuck off to your containment thread.
>>16157051>I dropped my usual vegeta kneelThe biggest honor
>>16157417Selen's numbers were good in the context of NijiEN, but even her peak was the bottom for HoloEN.Doesn't help that she stopped spamming Apex and her numbers have tanked.Now that shitposters have Mysta and Vox, they dropped Selen and use the bigger stick now.
>>16157417She's still a successful mid-tier streamer, there's not really much interesting to sayAnd as >>16157480 says, any shitposters who were just using her as a stick to beat low-performing holos with now have someone better to use
>>16157072you mispelled nijisanji
>>16154436What's even the point anymore?
>"No one cares about midget numbers">*people continue talking about numbers*>"STOP TALKING ABOUT MIDGETS">*everyone ignores the raging fucktard*Every time.
>>16154436>niji inclining despite yt cull>holo debuffing themself with ark
>>16157696Maybe holoJP would get good numbers if they were good vtubers.
This is sad /#/, it's just one bait post after another.
>>16157696You'd better wring out a bunch of money in your morning stream dumb stinky orca, it's already been days since I could last post the Chloe update and you've got a $12k gap to reach Yashiro
Did Kiara do a poll today for her Shrine stream?There's no way this shit peaked at 5k, but it would be interesting to see what the actual peak is.Looks like it has 10k potential due to call-ins.
>>16158069When it's this slow one person chainposting can really clutter the thread with junk.
>>16158137Whatever the peak was x2.
>>16158137She did a poll at the start, it reached 5k and had 3k viewers at the time
>>16154900What was his CCV with Enna?
>>16158272it was great
>>16158137Assume actual CCV is 3x higher than displayed peak.Botan outright stated her previous Metal Wolf Chaos stream that displayed 3.5k peak had 14k CCV when she checked the analytics a day after it was done.
>>16158272He got 3.3k playing It Takes Two with Enna, who also had her own POV (Why? It's literally a split screen game)He peaked 3.3x higher than Enna. It Takes Two is usually poison for NijiEN so 3.3k is quite high already. Elira is playing with some NijiKR girl and they get 500-800 viewers on 1 POV.
So many faggots replying to bait...
>>16158523It's so they can split the views and SCs. Niji EN is really weird about having too many POVs but when most of the members aren't exactly rolling in piles of cash it's understandable.
>>16158523Also, NA hours
>>16158490There's no to validate what that anon said
So I'm on hopium but the responses have gone from>We updated our AIto>We're investigatingto>We're currently working on a fixDare I hope that it actually gets fixed or did this also happen during the 2020 cull?
>>16156658Gura got less than $2000 on an outfit reveal? Jesas. Why are ENfags so stingy?
>>16158737No, last year they just kept pretending it works as expected.
>>16158490I can believe 3x for JPs, but from what we know so far, ENs have not been culled to the same extent (at least from the recent cull).O well, time for retroactive VOD cope again.
>>16158664Watching Botan's members verifies it, do your fucking reps.
>>16158737they said the same thing on 2020, dont get your hopes up
>>16158778She won't read those SC anyway, so most people just don't bother. Her merch sells out moments after being on sale though.
>>16156069>Use vods to calculate the possible range, estimate the cull based off of typical watch time per user (11 minutes is what we have on record from Fumi of Nijisanji and 10 minutes from Pikamee, probably way longer for event streams), and compare it to similar pre-cull streams and establish a range you can get a probability distribution. That's too much work to just make an educated guess though. Usually this ends up as being anywhere from 2.8-4.2 times the CCV we see.2.9-3.34 is the diviation i get. depends on the person, seems to be a little less for the larger view numbers, people like gura and pekora seems slightly less affected by the fuckery once their stream gets up over 10k, but only to a point, their watch metric should still be around x2.9 or x3.1 depending, where as the lower watch streamers are definitely getting boned slightly higher in the 3.3 range.
>>16158737wasn't 2020 cull more or less fixed for the JP chuubas since they've made more noise about it and youtube japan have to take it serious since chuubas are some of the biggest JP streamers period.
>>16158848Has EN ever checked their analytics to see their real peak?
how often does it take for a 3 hour VOD to show the livestream chat again after it finished?
>>16159041EN has not talked directly about it if they have checked them, but EN is getting the same 100-200% poll participations in 1-5 minutes as all the JPs. If the cull was lower for EN they would not be getting as high a poll participation percentage as the JPs in the same amount of time.>>16158848You are forgetting the cumulative effect of culling.EN was already under -40%, a further -40% means they are around 1/3 of their real numbers, and their poll participation is just as fucked as JPs, see my above reply to the other anon.
>>16158737Polls and likes numbers will be culled and you WILL like it
>>16155239>>16156790the real reason is that she was reading fortunes with hololy for 50$ each.
Any chance Gura breaks 20k on the karaoke? CCVid as reached stage 2 on her channel, I'm pretty sure
Why does Mysta have healthy graph compared to the other vtubers? Are there other vtubers that have healthy graph too?
>>16159041Selen from NijiEN did, but that's about it.On the HoloEN side, numbers fuckery has been a thing for more than a year now (eventho it's worse now than ever), but none of them seem to care.Mori and Kiara were two of the first ones to do polls just to check if their CCV was inaccurate, but their response is always "oh well it's fucked, who cares".Gura hates numbers so she never looks at her analytics.Mumei's chat was spammed with "7k viewers vs 15k poll votes lol" when she put up her poll yesterday so she knows for sure, but she didn't address it.
>>16159037No, the entire platform experienced a 30% cull that was never fixed. JPs did not get it fixed, it took them almost 11 months to grow back into 90% of pre-cull numbers.
>>16159331Entirely untapped market that isnt infected by the AI yet.He taps into SEA fujos that cant speak jap and didnt watch vtubers before, esp since it was a coomer stream
>>16155779mumei actually had a poll with more than 200% participation during that stream.
>>16159272It does seem as if the cull is pretty even between ENs and JPs.
>>16159395>On the HoloEN side>>16159272>EN was already under -40%Stop the myth, almost everyone was affected by the cull. The -40% figure for HoloEN is correct though but you're leaving the impression that there was no JP cull.
>>16159241There is no reliable time table regardless of video length. Sometimes it's instant or sometimes archiving a vod fully on youtube can take a day or more. If chat is missing it means either the vod has been edited or it is still in the archival process.
>>16159435He doesn't have membership yet, right? Do you think that affect too? Because i can see "new audiences+no spamming outlets" is a reason of healthy graph
>>16159041unless i missed something, from EN only selen so far has shown her analytics and she only lost like 30% which is nothing compared to kuzuha, hal, kanae, botan, and matsuri who lost 2x to 4x
>>16159272>EN was already under -40%, a further -40% means they are around 1/3 of their real numbersThe issue I have with this theory is that the VOD views do not track.If someone like Kiara is actually getting 10k+ on most of her streams (her current numbers x3), then her VODs should have similar counts to consistent 10k+ HoloJPs, but they aren't.
>>16157972Only NijiEN is inclining. NijiJP is reclining hard.
>>16159395Why they hate numbers so much bros?
>>16159272>You are forgetting the cumulative effect of culling.EN was already under -40%, a further -40% means they are around 1/3 of their real numbersThat doesn't mesh with what we see in other metrics
>>16158951Botan and Matsturi claim that their CCV was 4 times higher than what was shown. 4 might be the upper limit.>>16159620>Only NijiEN is incliningAlmost every NijiEN is down recently save for a few standouts. It's dishonest to clone Mysta 15 times and claim that's NijiEN.
>>16154436Ahaha, holoshitty reclined even further, now it's even worse than:>-34%>-30%>-30%>-42%>-32%Waiting for the next outfit reveal to laugh at their ccv below 10k.
>>16159700Didn't a Niji recently get a 12k 3D debut or something?
>>16157108>Must be either a newfag or a hypocriteIt's even worse - he's a holoshitty tribalfag. This thread on 95% consists solely of them.
>>16157389More like:You ask Nijifags what they like about their oshi and suddenly a disgusting Holokek will insert his ugly mug into conversation and starts shitting over every Chuuba except for Holoshitty.
Why don't other vtuber clip themselves like Mysta?
>>16159982>holoshitty>>16160092>HoloshittyHigh discord!!!
>>16160176at least he's being original
>>16160107I think making a highlight reel of yourself is too much work on top of daily streams + some people find it cringe to watch themselves.Holos have paid other people to make highlight clips of themselves before, like Ame and kowkarot, but if you think about it, it's not really worth because any moment you're clipping is already clipped for free by Sushi or someone else.Unless you transition your channel from a VOD archive channel to a highlights-only channel like Rae and Nyanners, it's hard for your fans to find clips in a sea of VODs anyways.
>>16159811As far as I know, their last 3D debut was in December and got 55k.
>>16160275He's just copying the other fag who says "Nijishitty". I prefer "Hollowlife" and "Manjisanji".
>>16160092>claims holofags love to butt-in into nijiniggers' convos>posts it in a holo thread on a holo boardC'mon, niji bro. You couldn't be more ironic lmao
>>16160420>posts it in a holo thread on a holo boardAhh, a very nice information pulled right from your thread? Or maybe there is some hidden text that reads "This board/thread belongs to holo"?And this, by the way, proves my point - the board/thread were never originally created as a holo board/thread, but disgusting holokeks inserted their stupid mugs and declared it as theirs.
>>16160411"Nijishitty" at least flows well and makes sense structurally. "Holoshitty" is forced and doesn't even make sense.
>>16160411I'll like to think Nijishitty anon off-ed himself after NJU after spamming the thread that no one cares about it.Literally the only person in the whole thread dumb enough to think NJU would flop.Even the most tribal holofans knew NJU would be huge.
I propose the terms "Holodumbo" and "Nijibitchi"
>>16160600>"Nijishitty" at least flows well and makes sense structurally.A what? That's the most retarded thing I've heard. In what place it flows and makes sense structurally.> "Holoshitty" is forced and doesn't even make sense.That's the opposite - it's makes perfect sense, because sounds like "holy shit", like the exclamation of hololive being a retarded company, at the same time, giving hololive it's suitable fragrance of feces.
>>16160709>In what place it flows and makes sense structurally.Cause it rhymes, retard.>Niji>shittyJesas. Why are nijiniggers so unoriginal and uncreative just like their oshi? Don't they understand art?
Nijisanji Weekly top songs list is also outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnGGXjcJw2QLooks like a bit of a recline to previous weeks.38k for 50th place12th placed is the first song over 100kChima twice in the top 5, hers and Toko's Phony are on 2nd and 3rd place.Lauren's KamiPoi on a tear though, over 4 million in less than 2 months.
>>16160666Nice try satan
>>16160709>Ni-Ji-San-Ji>Ni-Ji-Shi-TyIt ends on the same vowel sound, goes into the second part with an S, and it has the same amount of syllables.>Ho-Lo-Live>Ho-Lo-Shi-TyEnds on a different sound, second part starts on a different letter, and you are adding a syllable. No structure and no flow.
>>16160709Holoshitty sounds nothing like "Holy Shit" you dumbfuck ESL, learn proper english pronunciation before posting. Are all nijishit dumbass cocksuckers low IQ like you?
Why don't you retards start a separate thread about thinking up nicknames an 8 year old would give vtuber agencies they don't like so people can go back to seething about numbers as intended
>>16160874I think this validates the saying where the audience reflects the streamer. I heard some talent from Nijisanji where she had to mutiliate her breasts just so she could bait some superchat money. Ridiculous.
>>16160939Where else but here? It's not like there's a point to this thread anymore.
The absolute state of /#/
>>16160939This place is a cesspool of autists, arguing over which CEO is more of a meme or over which nicknames sound best, in full sincerity
>>16160939What's there to discuss? The only possible interesting thing which may happen in the span of next 3 hours is Ame becoming a 3-view, as she's reading SCs, and infected with CCVID.
>>16160811>Cause it rhymesNot it doesn't retard. Please don't become a rapper. Your 'rhymes' would be complete trash.
>>16160811>>16160869In both examples both syllables and phonemes for nijishitty are different, hence making as little rhyming sense as holoshitty. Do some English reps, retards.>>16160874And for you - do your eyesight and hearing reps. You've got some serious problems with those.
>>16160821I don't like how this guy does his rankings.He takes the total number of views of a video and divides it by the days it's been released.It's not the most useful imo for finding out what's hot this week.I want to know how Kuzuha's King and Vampire are doing per week damnit.
SUSAN, SHINE
>>16161114(me)Nvm I'm dumb. He bamboozled me and changed how he does his rankings wtf.>Kuzuha King: 186,519>Kuzuha Vampire: 110,923>Lauren God-ish: 327,743Wow Lauren wouldn't even make it into the top 10 for Holo covers this week.
Here are some numbers11 - the number of Holomen Matsuri has kissed2 - the number she frenched.
>>16161212To be fair, it was a really strong week for Hololive with all the new cover releases.
>>16160939But this is the best place for this sort of autistic sperging. Why do you think so many cumbuds and nousagikeks come here?
Towa just leapfrogged Lamy, Sora and Mio. If she keeps some of this pace up and Shion actually comes back like she said. Maybe they can both save a little face and overtake the IDs for glorious nippon.
>>16161114https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXh5XDR2rtA10. Fubuki - Animal (350,296)9. Mio - Animal (401,905)8. Kiara and Ina - Iya Iya Iya (485,116)7. Suisei - phony (486,628)6. Lui - Love ka (514,255)5. Botan and Lamy - Lion (578,978)4. Laplus - Kamippoi (632,693)3. Towa and Suisei - Haiiro to Ao (696,826)2. HoloEN - The Twelve Days of Christmas (829,105)1. Gura - Target For Love (1,049,123)For those who want to know Holo's top 10 too.
>>16160939This thread is pretty much dead unless Susan decides to fix CCV (I doubt it).
>>16160821https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXh5XDR2rtA [Embed]10. Fubuki - Animal (350,296)9. Mio - Animal (401,905)8. Kiara and Ina - Iya Iya Iya (485,116)7. Suisei - phony (486,628)6. Lui - Love ka (514,255)5. Botan and Lamy - Lion (578,978)4. Laplus - Kamippoi (632,693)3. Towa and Suisei - Haiiro to Ao (696,826)2. HoloEN - The Twelve Days of Christmas (829,105)1. Gura - Target For Love (1,049,123)For those who want to know Holo's top 10 too.
>>16161212>>16160821Here's the Hololive top 70 covers for the weekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-jRAn8YreYLauren's Kamippoi would be just below Suisei's Phony with its 411kBTW Ochame Kinou JP got a boost as well, back to 273 for the first time in months.
>>16161490Hmm, strange. This compilation claims that it's views starting from 1'st of January, but I remember that Gura's cover was around 800k during New Years. After checking playboard, it confirmed that at 1'st of January this cover had mid-800k views. So how it got 1mil+ views if it's only around 1.1 mil right now?After that, I checked some other holo top 10 covers from this video and they also have the same problem.
>>16161640Wait, I'm dumb, i was reading Lauren't 4mil congratulations as 400k views.It had 327,743 viewsPuts it on 6th place, just above Gura-Mori's King - 320,075and below Towa - Suisei's Haiiro to Ao with 338,663
>>16160561You do know /vt/ was created specifically as a containment measure for Hololive in particular right? (Been around since /jp/)
>>16161725I believe they didn't do it last week, so a good number of the top 15 are actually 2 weeks old.It's not the biggest deal and should fix itself by next week.For example, HoloEN Ochame Kinou will be almost 2 weeks old when it gets added to the video next week.
>>16161381Towa's previous EOP chat got overtaken by mostly JPs now. I'm expecting her to get a huge JP incline now that APEX arc is over.
>>16162178The Apex ark is what brought her JP incline to begin with early last year.
>>16161964No, I don't know that. And that's not because I am a newfag. That's because that's some bullshit information. Holokeks always were an outcasts, so they try to find some containment places themselves. If a hobo gets kicked out from one street and puts his box in the middle of another street, that doesn't meant the whole street now belongs to him. The same with holokeks.
I'm receiving Niji recommendations.The bots works.
>>16161993>It's not the biggest dealBruh, it's like 200k vs 1 mil. Looks like a big deal to me.
>>16162319It's a weekly ranking video out of dozens of weeks with a couple thousand views.It's not a big deal in the long run.
>>16162268the hobo analogy is a little weird when the people seething about hololive discussion and trying to chase it off to yet another new thread/board have always been the ones in the minority, albeit a very loud minority
>>16159507Stop comparing November and December.Obviously, the cutting algorithm works slowly, day by day.Gura drop since 46k to 19kAme, Ina, Kiara, Mora - all of the dropped more then 50% compared to September, October, November.All HoloJP return to september numbers, but only holoEN was drop more.
>>16162492I think 16162268 is in dire need of (You)s
>>16162178Towa's chat stopped being majority eop in late 2020 during her reintroduction into the box after a self imposed exodus and the introduction of HoloEN. Aound the time of the first hololive amoung us collabs which she organized. Towa has two separate fanbases with some overlap. Idol fags who are there for her singing and hololive collabs and apexniggers who she got from collabing with vspo and crazy racoon. There's a sizable korean slice there too.She still plays Apex (cr cup this week, only 4 days this time though) but has started valorant. Valorant might be interesting for its potential holo collabs.
>>16162492I guess /vt/ is not a very well developed street, with a lot of hobos.>very loud minoritythat's debatable, as I think that majority of this board is much, much louder.
>open thread>baits, falseflags, samefags
Looks like Fauna is L-ing today instead of nike-ing.CCVID is getting worse and worse for ENs.
>>16163387
rumao Ame and Bubba bot numbers
Goodbye holoEN~
>>16163760Christmas singing in January. Why is she doing this
The MK tournament and the costume relay got EN on terminal CCVID, as expected.
>>16163819becasue se promised and coudlnt do it on holidays outside the ral.
Thank you Gawr Gura for getting today's gold for holo with your unarchived singing!
>>16163760Looks like we need to put her on the ventilator or it's about to get terminal
>>16163760>Gura might get under 10k for karaoke today
>>16163819her computer melted down during christmas, but now it's not melted down and still christmas! it's a christmas miracle anon!
>>16164045...maybeAre we counting waiting rooms?
AsaMio managed to beat the waiting room by a little bit, but 3.1k for a show that was over 9k every single week PLUS a L2D 2.0 reveal is..... yeah, we're still hurtling towards 2views at a blistering pace
>>16162637(You)Someone hasn't fucking checked the numbers to sees where a huge chunk of the activity on the board is (hint, it's a Hololive thread, and the one that moves the fastest)
>>16164371only for holos
>>16164230thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWW2SzoAXMo
Ame's graph looks (somewhat) normal. She's the EN who is least affected by this because Japs don't like her.
>>16164848There's a valley around 8:35
>>16164848ame supasunday usually have 2k average this is at least 1k below normal.
>>16164848supa sunday for ame never bottoms into sub 2k this early or at all i think. its usually 2.5k on lower ones with 3.5k averages. Shes absolutely getting fucked
>>16164147
>>16164993
>>16164993Bubbabot is sitting at 1.1k+ so something seems off.
>>16164848She's at the stage before the 'Nike' stage.
>>16165025been awhile since i looked and yeah 2.5k~ seems her new average i guess these days the past few months at least. but its still quite a bit lower than normal even then.
>>16165065bubbabot was fuckin up earlier, and there's a fauna karaoke going on that some people might be using instead
>>16164848That is half her usual peak, and 1k below her usual average. She averages like 2.5k viewers, and her usual peaks are 3.2-4.5k
>>16165025Those past two superchat readings she had no competition.>>16165122Natural decline
Found this in the archiveGura's average watch time per view at the first a year ago
Found this in the archiveGura's average watch time per view at the first cull a year ago
>>16165664How is this calculated? I don't think she has ever made that public.
So the Elira's nepotism hire will be the gachikois magnet in Luxiem?At least on youtube SC already mogged all his genmates and previous gens.And is mogging Fauna rn on SC.
>>16165870It's because he stays mostly in US timezone while the others stream for SEA poorfags in exchange for more views.
>>16165870is a 100k celebration
>>16165664to explain better the graph from this anon: they calculated avg watch time = total time * (avg ccv / total views after stream end). CCV got fucked, so the calculated avg watch time also fell as well.
Nimu passed Kuzuha.
10k Karaoke IKUZO!
>>16165805Probably just streamDuration * CCV / VODViewsAtEndOfStream. Obviously end of stream views have to be processed and all that, plus viewer retention depends on content, which probably explains the large variance in the calculated watch time, but you can still see the cut in roughly 40% after December where CCV got fucked.
>>16165981her views litearlly jumpped out of a cliff since last month.From 600-1M views to 200-300k
>>16165981stop looking at clips channel anon. Shes got 1.4M on twitch
>>16165981Man, this has been a bad 2 months for the "King". He has been largely made irrelevant.
>>16166089I'm comparing YouTube channels.
Today, the last holo that can get 10k+ no matter what stream falls
>>16165948Anon, he got 4k on youtube akasupas on a mf collab.Surpassing Kiara who had the new outfit buff. And is granted will surpass Kiara again today.Is literally no delusion to say this guys is already more loaded than all of EN if we also consider streamlab donations.How much that bitch of Kiara will cry once she opens Playboard and see males are fucking her again rumao.Thank you rikku for putting this whores on their places, as cheapass prostitutes.Anticipate the collabs soon!
>>16166149The end of an era. It's sad to see it all go down like this. Holos lost not because of recline, but because of Susan's greed.
So another Gura gold today? Would Gura top her record dominance (11 daily wins in a month)?
>>16166348Why are you still obsessed with gold medals when Susan has fucked the views beyond repair?Even if Gura gets gold, it's because her channel has a lesser CCVid stage than say, Pekora's.
It seems obvious at this point that different streams get affected differently by the cull. Some of the sudden differences in numbers between chuubas dont make any sense and they appeared right after cull.
>>16166121you're comparing a real streaming channel with a clips channel.
>>16166246ok
>>16165664Nowadays holomem are lucky to get +10 min/view
>Gura desperately bringing out progressively more buff content to keep her head above 10kI thought she wasn't a numberfag
>>16166246>he got 4k on youtube akasupas on a mf collab.https://youtu.be/JYLkbf6sEg4?t=14229Fucking retard.He was doing a countdown to 100k at the end of the stream.That's where the $4k is from.He's double dipping right now by doing an actual celebration stream.
>>16166570God I hope so, I want her to do lewd art review.
>>16166577That explains why the donations happened only at one point. Anyway5k waiting for gura. 30min to go.
>>16166570You realize she made this schedule at the start of the week right? And that she didn't decide when the outfits got revealed? She's not exactly patching the ship as it sails.
>>16166570if only she streamed her mario kart finals to make you look less retarded..
>>16166634I'm ready for a 20k waiting room gold
>numberfagging imaginary numbers
>>16166694i think it will be 10k waiting like the last karaoke ebfore new years.
>>16166679She knew Marine would mog her so dipped out
>>16166570kek this is like saying Pecker is not a numberfag
>>16166694She hasn't had 20k waiting for a (non relay) karaoke in a while, anon. Usually her Karaoke keeps inclining the more it's up and goes past 30k, but it doesn't start that close
>>16166788Why are anons in such desperate denial about the Gura=/=numberfag thing? Your evidence on the contrary is always flimsy shit like>b-but this stream looks like she's trying to get people to view itThat's not fucking numberfagging.
>>16166840>Schedules the most streams in a week she's had all year during Council and HoloX debuts
>>16166418Still have to give credits to good numbers, holoilve are all in equal battlegrounds after all.
>>16154436Mysta... I kneel...
>>16166418Because this is the only time childfuckers can brag about Gura overall.Before the ccvid gura was mogged by jp, either Holo or Niji, on regular streams.
>>16166926Sounds like a massive debuff for her since more people would be interested in the new toys
>>16166926>doesn't look at her fucking CCV during a stream>refuses to celebrate 1 million and 3 million, probably passing on thousands of dollars and even more views for celebration buff>you can count the number of times she's talked about her numbers on your fingers>never shills her songsYes, extremely flimsy shit compared to the evidence to the contrary.
so this schizo been samefagging all day huh
>>16166926> HoloX debuts lol, making things up again?
So according to Selen and Botan; V stage = 30% cull (10+ mins waiting room recovery). Tending to L stage = 80% cull (your peak is only half of your waiting room).
>>16166926Literally what the fuck are you talking about? HoloX debut was late November, one of Gura's worse streaming times. During it she played GTA, Pokemon and DMC, then fucked off for like a week.
Today's superchats
>>16167203Thank you Selen. We finally have actual data to check for cull percentages
>>16167092Gura is scared of her numbers but also petty, spiteful and jealous of anyone else being successful.
>>16167203Using all the actual number information we have been given by VTubers and correlating it to their chart we can probably find a better correlation than that
>>16167203what were all the stages again?
>>16166926During HoloX debut she git suck for a week and didn't stream at all, anon.
Will this be one of Gura's karaoke stream that dips below 20k? pretty sure a TON of her viewers got the CCVid on the MK Tourney or the NY Outfit relay
>>16167394denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.
>>161674038-12K
>>16166926if she were a numberfag then she'd literally celebrate every sub and song milestone a la 1 year-ago kiara for easy supas and views but she didn't and the only time she celebrated a sub milestone was 2 mil where she sang hololive songs and shilled them to her audience, the fact that she's still this powerful despite debuffing herself is a testament to her numbers.
>>16167257I love that I don't have to watch Niji tournaments because I can find out the winner from that day's SC chart
>>16167403>Will this be one of Gura's karaoke stream that dips below 20k?Yes. She's down 40-50% of her views. But also this is the first actually scheduled public karaoke she's done in months, barring the relay. Previously she'd have it on the schedule but on the exact day she started streaming again so it was basically a guerilla.
>>16154436Mysta has officially bcome the first niji to ever break 10k
>>16167536it's not exactly in a good day too, working day for anyone past America timezones
>>16167203also according to botan her halo real ccv was 2x the live https://vrabi.ml/video/S7JxoFxV40kits not that easy to tell the cull by the graph shapealso selen showed her analytics graph after 1 day. It may have processed more since then, if it is the same as vod views
>>16166246> Kiara Kiara KiaraGenuinely a mental illness.
>>16167536Numberrot has been getting massively worse looking at Kiara's and Fauna's streams today.Karaoke not clearing the waiting room is weird as hell and Kiara looked to be way higher as well, especially during the early call ins.
>>16167636>livestreams>can't count live viewerss-sugoi...
welp, good bye
>>16167876Today will not be the day she gets under 10k, I'm sorry anon
>>16167929Nah no way she gets under 10k for karaoke, maybe if it was next week
>>16167636This one is hard to believe without seeing the analytics
13k waiting for the shark
>>16168018
>>16168033dropped to 4.5k
Guys I think it is time to pack it up. The numbers are gone forever.
>>16167567The first NijiEN
>>16167636I wouldn't trust her 100% on that one because it was a shill stream for Xbox goypass
>>16168082She's getting those numbers back. Already at 7k
Gura us recovering very fast
>>16168136Gura has been barely affected. She has her usual numbers
>>16168098I'm just waiting until YouTube fixes it or just goes "working as intended". My expectation is something in the middle, a fix but numbers are still crippled compared to pre-cull
>>16168204retard
10k got, postponing my suicide for now
>>16154436holy shit NijiEN hit it with Mysta, first 10k on solo for them
>>16168204it took her a long time to recover during her outfit reveal
>>16168204>usual numbersShe's usually gets 30k on unarchived, I very much doubt she'll even hit 20k today
Is that the smell of hope?
10k getThe tally of the day is saved
>>16168256More like the smell of cope
gura's got niked it seems
>>16168204Barely affected? When she went back to 4k from 13k viewers?
>>16168256she'll be lucky to get 25k
>>16168204pre. karaoke (non relay)
>>16168130they dont get paid by ccv in youtube anonchama, ever since the 2020 fuckery
It was always like thatThe only difference was the recovery time and the ratio between the waiting room and the actual peak CCV
>>16168389In retrospect, CCVID was already starting to hit at that point.
I strongly dislike Susan, bros.
>>16168443Those are standard gura unarchived numbers though
Recovered in 9 minutesSugoi..
>>16168443yeah, but it started with the JP holos (remember the graph flattening) and it took like 2 weeks to reach the nijis
>>16166443They still both get video views and subscribers, though, and are both in the top subscribed VTuber lists so they can still be compared.
>>16168443This was what, the 27th?If she was affected at this point, it was probably affected (at MOST) 30%, probably 10-20% given past Karaoke numbers.
doesn't look like a 20k'er to me
>Susan flatlining the stream at 13kFucking whore
14K get, Susan might cap it at 15 tho fucking bitch.
CCVID has spread out of here>>16168587
What the fuck is this, numberbros? Gura karaokes are supposed to be our paradise...
GURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULL
>>16168680Nips have always been /here/ anon, and CCVID is an excellent meme.
>>16168609Yeah, we now know that it ramped gradually but she was almost certainly being hit at that point.
>>16168716What happened?
>>16168680Literally my post kek
>>1616880330k guarantees... now we can't even reach 20k...
do we have 20k contenders for today aside from gura karaoke?
>>16165981
12 min recovery. Not as bad as her MK stream.
Nousagis..not like thisCome and take your CCV throne back, I can't watch Gura struggle to break a 20k on Karaoke, even if it means she's got the biggest CCV in hololive
>>16168881>20K Gura karaokeTee hee hee hee. In your dreams.t.Susan
>>16166110the ccvi caps seem to have hit him particularly harshly too, his graphs look incredibly fucked up
Why is Shork so powerful...I kneel...
please gura... hit 20k... please...
>>16168903When is she joining Vshojo?
HOLO GOLD>HOLO GOLDHOLO GOLD>HOLO GOLD
hi numberfags, havn't been able to check out streams the past week. Are numbers fixed yet?
>>16169208MOGU MOGU
>>16169208Not numbers related, fuck off to /doog/ and Hololive Global.
>>16169279nope youtube says they're working on a fix but thats if you trust them
>>16169279Nope, getting gradually worse.
>>16169279>Gura karaoke>18k after 25 minsYou tell me man
>18k and still going upI'M BEGINNING TO BELIEVE
>>16169310Sponsorships are always fair game for /#/
Susan you flagging capping bitch!@
>>16169389Even if she hits 20k that is still only 50% of her average for unarchived karaoke.
Watame on TV Asahi
>>16169467Not if they don't have any numbers.
End of Numbers
Damn, Gura will (hopefully) just pass 20K with an unarchived karaoke...The shark's recline is staggering...
>>16169600don't you know? we're now /news/
https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1480151508964765698haachama's numbers
Youtube needs to fix this shit now. gura can only last so long on the front lines
>>16168904>https://vrabi.ml/video/QTqzg3_tl0Msame waiting number32k peak
>>16169600Are you new to this thread or something?
Just a hundred more till 20k
>>16169565> only 50% of her average for unarchived karaoke.Sure?
>No Sabaton songsFucking bitch.
20k getto
>>1616990020k get
20k get
>Gura 20k gotDoubter status?
>>16169923Unfortunately a nogo with rules being properly followed now, too bad.
The imaginary number hit a satisfying mark
>Gura 20k in the Age of the CullIFUCKINGKNEELSHARKIE
80% of her viewers deleted, still hits 20k.
>>16170089By that logic there's 100k watching her now.
20k ccv with 17k likesThat’s the good stuff
Don't let the 20K number blind you fools, she should have 30K-40K for unarchived karaoke.
>>16170150Well, that is what she got before the first cull.
>20k for a non event streamThat's it. That's the last one you're getting out of Hololive.
>>16170072I used to be a Shark-anti, but now I am a believer...Shark I kneel...
enjoying 20k anons? remember when this was normal only but a month ago? enjoy this one susan is sharpening the axe again
>>16170210Kek. That's how it feels honestly, depending on what her schedule is next week.
>>16169995Imagine being happy about getting 20k
>>16170089Nah, her Karaoke watching audience that only tunes in for JUST her Karaokes likely hasn't been hit nearly as bad yet.She's probably eating at stage 2/3 (30-50% cull) though since she'd normally be somewhere in the low/mid 30ks.
Susan is going to announce on Monday that these are improvements to their bot detecting algorithm.
>>16170316Yeah, cuz HoloJP nor Nijisanji can get it without events
>>16170316we're going to be saying the same thing about 10k next week anon.
>>16170210Question is...Who she pointing at to carry on the flame?
>>16170150she could unironically average 50k-60k on karaokes pre 2020 cull so it's not farfetched to believe she has more than half of her viewers not being counted this also doesn't count the massive amount of people tabbed out since this is a karaoke
>>16170316
Fuck did Susan just cap us to prevent 21K?
>>16170418She hasn't found her successor yet. I mean literally. There are no Vtubers right now who can get pass 20k in a solo stream
So, looking at current numbers, I'm pretty sure Susan "fixed" the CCVID already. Meaning, exactly what anons feared happened: they stopped flagging new accounts as bots, but left every single flagged account still flagged. So now we just have permanent one time CCV reduction of up to 90% viewers, which is inconsistent between channels.I fully expect CCV to start consistently going up for everybody right now.
>>16170457Can you please kindly give the link?
>>16170501If your name doesn't have 'Ludwig' in it you don't deserve more than 20k.
>>16170210GO GURA PUSH TO 25K I BELIEVE
>>16169673>>16169815I mean if there are no numbers posted in the post that mentions it.
>>16170418No one. Subaru, Marine, Pekora, Suisei, Miko(forma del karaoke) are all in terminal stages of CCVid.Also doesn't look like Susan's algorithm won't allow her to get past 20k.
>>16169918The ones around 44k+ balance the 35k ones out for an average around 40k.>>16170422Her single unarchived karaoke before 2020 cull was 120k. The one after cull was 54k, and we know her cull was roughly 50%She is operating at about 70-75% cumulative cull between 2020 and the current one, which would put this stream at ~80k, which is entirely believable number for her.
>>16170518Well it's Twitch, but there's Vsh- wait you're right lol
>>16170072We now have confirmation Gura isn't affected by the cull, these look like numbers that fit her natural recline
And Pekora got laughed at for her sans run during the first signs of CCVid.Life is unfair.
>>16170694that 120k stream was too much of an outlier anon, She went back to 60k numbers for her karaokes iirc
>>16170710Gura sleeps with Susan confirmed.
I think Gura's karaoke is probably around 90k live viewers if youtube count worked properly.
>>16170725I mean, shitposters don't care about noticing oddities.I thought the numbers looked unusually low, as did other Holomem's stuff. Little did we know...>>16170549Ah please fuck no, I'd rather this keep getting worse for everyone than a freeze right now.
>>16170710Retard.
>>16170518>>16170710I hate this, now only Vshojo's top 3 can regularly crack 10K CCV. (excluding Gura)
>>16170335He means 50% after nov 2020, and then 30-35% cut after dec 2021. But it's not correct. Real her cut 68-70% after nov 2020+ dec 2021.
>Susan desperately trying to keep her under 21kHow the fuck does this thing work? Why does it randomly decide on a cap?
>>16170710nijisanji...
>>16170904Her last karaoke was barely 30k.
>>16170518ID3 will have an undeniable superstar who brings the branch to the same prestige as the others and inherits the mantle
>>16170904Probably 50-55k pre 2020 numbers or 40k 2021.
>>16170917Anon...this is Gura's last huzzah.This cull isn't a flat thing, it gets worse.If she wants to pull 10k+ on the next few ones she'll have to crack out minecras, GTAV, maaaybe DbD
>>16170969It acts like an immune system. The more viewers, the harder it fights.
>>16170990Check the date of her last 2 karaokes...FYI cull theory started gaining traction on Dec 27th.
>>16170941>50%How?
>>16170990Her last karaoke was early 2021 cull and unscheduled. This one being 40k (post 2020 cull) isn't much of a stretch, considering it's scheduled and riding high off the new outfit buff.
>>16159620>>16159699That's the power of male English-speaking YouTubers, they were the most dominant type of YouTuber for the longest time until the big corpo clickbait YouTube channels came. Imagine if all the Holos just streamed on the official Hololive channel instead of having their own channels.
>>16170904I doubt it, but who knows at this point. The cull is so inconsistent.
>21kDORYAAA
>>16170549This is some advanced cope
>>16171057>Chumbuds spamming emotes in Gura's chat is gonna get flagged.Well shieeeet. DbD would probably get Gura less than 10K though but Minecraft and GTAV? Definitely.
>>16171140Well, she had TWO post-cull, but yea, one unarchived (rescheduled christmas day) karaoke and then the new years relay one.
>>16169600Where do you people come from?
>>16170917Nah, they can't even get past 20k with Collabs and big events
21k get
Fucking Gura and her insular audience. Her CCV is in need of rape correction.
>>16171465It's possible Pekora can still crack 10k on minecra/collabs, too.
"all night long" counter for UNITY NO. 5Ame: 2Kiara: 1
>>16171298>>16171565susan seething
Totally a coincidence before getting bonked
>>16171605Being a normie magnet worked in her favor for once. Her numbers are only 20% down on what she'd normally get
>>16171057Does that mean the JPs would be reduced to triple digits?
>>16171645She's been playing debuff games for the past week and her Marika didn't even get 10K despite being the biggest JP Vtuber. There might be some hope for MC but I wouldn't bet on it.
YOU SHALL NOT PASS
>>16171099Susan is how. This shows the exact instant the 2020 cull went active, they where streaming minecraft normally when their CCV basically halved.They where not doing supers, they where still actively playing the games, you can go check the archives.Gura's was roughly a drop of 50% in average watch time per user which is calculated by Average CCV * stream duration / views, shown here >>16165664and the only thing that really changed was her CCV.
>>16171692-35%
>>16171769Yes
>>16171824Maybe not mundane MC stream, if she's doing something special perhaps.
>you got a bit to high their gura
>>16171869Sinc when have we used average watch time per user to calculate Dec 2020's cull?
We saw suspicious activity. So we decided to mark some of the viewers as bots.
>Back to 18KKill me
>>16171835She said how she was finishing up, so people were getting ready to go, but oops not quiet yet, one more song.
>lost 3k in a few minsLook at all those people getting flagged in real time
>- 2k views wtf
Uh did Gura just lose 3000 viewers?
>>16171931Man I really hope if that happens, she atleast retains >10K CCV cause this is just super depressing.
>>16172136all bots
Buh bye Gooruh. 3000 chumbuds just got flagged.
>>16172112Just bots, so do not pay attention.And so the stream lags something.
IT KEEPS DROPPING
>>16172268wait is that why the steam is lagging? it's just not on my end?
so people spamming MEMBER emotes are flagged as bots but not people just typing monksS and WeirdChamp?
>Views drop>Likes up
>>16172088And what a song, actually fitting to the numbers situation.
>>16172369it's the hotdog emotes isn't it?
TATAKAE, GURA
>>16172190It's a bloodbath out there. Stand strong chumbuds! There's too many of us for Susan to kill us all!
>>16172392Yeah i have some freez time to time.
Susan is the true gura killer after all
>>16172601>tack Susan with the gura killer curse>it doesn't affect her, it only makes her strongerWhat the fuck bros it wasn't supposed to be this way
>>16172136too many emotes spammed by those cumbuds
>>16172408You see, member emotes contain a suspicious amount of colons and underscores in them, clearly indicative of a spam message. monkaS is alphanumeric though, all good there.
>>16172686Im a bit new here, why is Gura fan called cumbud? I at least know that it seems to be a degrading term.
Imagine still posting in this thread lmao
Looking at messages per minute....Yea, this one's definitely got at least as many or if not MORE people than the 27th Karaoke, but oops, missing a 3rd of the viewers (on top of however were already missing by that point)
It's over GuraSusan wants you suicidal
>>16172835blame gurashrimp was good enough, she had to make it weirder
>>16172889Chumbud predates shrimp, newfag.
So I guess it gets progressively worse with streams that have similar content going by her Mario Kart graphs. Expect her graph to be a nice Nike in her next karaoke stream then: https://vrabi.ml/video/xJCcx-LTHfAhttps://vrabi.ml/video/PFM5KGjYQZEhttps://vrabi.ml/video/khNeta1CsAg
>>16172887kek
>>16172835Gura is kind of weird
>>16172764oh no oh fuck, that's what happened huh? those pajeets are seriously fucking retarded if that's really true.
>>16172835Gura is very autistic
Is it just me or is this karaoke not as energetic or cheeful as the other ones like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqtOoBKmjIY&t
>>16172835Because chumbud -> cumbud is close enough and given the amount of UOOOOHHHHH around the board and what her thread goes into at times, it kinda sticks. Also she just HAD to dredge the accursed Jar meme out from the depths so now it's definitely not going away.
That's a pretty odd spike downwards.
Youtube's view validation will always look hilarious
>>16172835It should've been chumbajs but that hits too close to home so she settled with chumbuds.
>>16173151>a cherry picked list of energetic songs vs a karaokeCam on anon, also numbers
Are we at endemic stage of ccvid yet?
>>16173284Oh right my apologies, still it feels off somehow.
>>16173151susan's number fuckery has given my daughter depression
>>16173350not until pekor gets like 800 ccv
>>16173194Right as she hit that 21k mark. So are there certain checkpoints that cause a mass flagging event?
>>16173454No you idiot, she just said she was wrapping up so a lot of fools left to go do other shit at the top of the hour.
>Stream capped at 18kThat was too evil Susan
>>16173531Even if she said she was "wrapping up" this is a rare unarchived karaoke, something all of us are looking forward.
Oh, fuck, Ame below 1k
>>16171476see>>16170650 This is what I meant. This post >>16169208 doesn't have any numbers posted with it.
the numbers... i can't breathe...
>>16173672No, seriously. Where do you people come from?
>>16173638What a shAME.
>>16173531no she said she had 2 more songs when the numbers started to drop
Ame has become a 3view.
>>16173432Thousands of chumbies were being gunned down on the front lines by Susan's shock troops as they tried to make a push to capture the 22k hill. Of course she would be depressed.
End of an era. Final non-event 20k. Can Pekora rise back to this level with some collab minecraft?
>>16173744Then I misheard.Oh goddamnit.
>>16172880you got a chart for that for a comparison? would be nice to look at
>>16173712Fuck off, retard. Sponsorships posted in the thread without numbers being shown in the post aren't /#/ related. Actually post sponsorships that have numbers, or if there aren't any available yet, wait to be able to add them before posting.
>>16170810The 60k one was post 2020 cull.
>>16173911I'm just using the numbers from Holo.poi and showing messages per minute.
I recorded a bit of the video dropping viewers live, gonna edit some stuff and show it herepretty sure emotes and repetitive text is flagging everyone as spam viewer
>>16173201Hey look, there's Gura's bottom teeth! WE FOUND THEM!
>>16173932How about fuck off, newfag. Stop trying to fit in here.
>>16173932How fucking new are you?You're the only person to ever bitch about sponsorships being posted on this thread.
>>16173998Shut up, retard.
You guys want to know why the 120k was so freakishly huge?Obviously precull, Myth FOTM period..but also the waiting room was up for 24 hours. A massive chunk of Gura's audience probably doesn't check her twitter and she'd incline an easy few thousand if she posted waiting rooms in advance or schedules to her community.
>>16173932how new?
>>16174062>schedules to community Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....She hasn't done that since last year in Feb, but yes that definitely had part to do with it.
>>16173950ah shit really? I guess I need to improve my date reps, I remember her first karaoke being 70k or so and that her second one was 120k
>>1617418170K - shadowbanned but still climbing120K - 24hr waiting room because YouTube shat itself58K - culled
>>16173751Gura and Ame culled at the same time
>>16173776they were so close to the top...
>>16173967jesus fucking christ she had more chatters now than back then with close to half displayed ccv
>>16174277Possible? There was a lot of overlap with Gura here.
>AsaMio getting slowly murderedGura will have a drastic drop in her next karaoke stream if my theory is right: >>16172962
>>16174366Yeah, if that 3k cull is true, she will have a hard time to reach 20k next time, 15k becomes her karaoke norm.
>>16174358probably the people that were watching both at the same time and were flagged as bots
As Gura gets more popular, more big names are gonna recognize and talk about her, which will just keep making her even more popular.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of35aIZMckchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_5zAANBpPghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNhky-LomBo
>>16174469Interesting theory, is there any way to check this?
>>16174475Oh hey it's the drama thread from yesterdayAre we /drama/ now?
>>16174358yep, exactly at the same time
Streams over 1k so far (noon 10.01.2022) Gura 21,182Kiara 5,816Fauna 3,296Mio 3,190Chloe 2,483*Shu 2,440Ame 2,143Melissa 2,068*Elira 1,822Luna 1,595Hakase 1,306*Tojiro 1,011 *ongoing Next monday's noon ranking: streams with 3 digits or more
>>16174475>3 week old shitThis is old and it did nothing for her.
>>16174576>1k wtf anon. I know numbers are low right now, but why the fuck 1k
>>16174542Always have been.
>>16174576>Kiara was unironically a mid high-tier holo all alongHoly shit Kiara I apologize
>>16174543literally by the minute
>>16174543Ah.Goddamnit yea, I now subscribe to it.So, multi-tab watching causing users to get flagged in real time? Come the fuck on Susan you HAVE to be kidding me.
>>16174475>>16174579It was actually pretty slow for her in December.
>>16174671Users doing that end up looking like view bots.
>>16174348This may be controversial, but it appears that Gura has inclined overall.
>>16174667Looks like her views started validating.Ended up getting more views than Mysta who had over double her CCV.
>>16174576It just gets more and more depressing.
Any new update since the last "we'll fix it" Tweet from YT?
>>16174785Ah...Socialblade, their monthly updates are actually the previous month's last day or the first day of the month, which is weird.
>>16174951When was that?
>>16174834they just got a new outfit and released an orig song. normally they should be seeing a boost in numbers
>>16174543>>16174668>>16174671No wonder multi-POV collabs destroy CCV in following streams. Everyone is fucking flagged
We had streams over 5k yesterday, now streams over 1k. Does Susan really hate us that much numberbros?
>>16169208based, I want to eat onigiris with Okayu
>>16174951It's the weekend anon.Youtube isn't going to make people work on the weekend for livestream shit.
>>16173948The view(?) from Gura unarchived today before she unarchived itFeel free to interpret
>>16174579Looks like Hololive's Midas touch eluded him
>>16175026That no longer works because of how long it takes views to verify and be tallied now. A stream archive has to be up for 24+ hours.
>>16174543Well fuck, keep an eye on the overlapping stream culls. Has this been brought up before?
>>16174829I get it, its a really easy thing to check for, but did they already only counted for one view. To throw another layer of 'oh you need to be verified FOR 24-48 FUCKING HOURS' on top of that is just retarded,
>>16175046Forgot pic
>>16175026CULLEDI remember Ina's very first karaoke had 40k CCV which had 200k vod views just after it finished, Gura's Gawr karaoke also had 40k but it finished with close to 400k vod views just after
>>16174878Anon....that stream was 4 fucking hours long vs Mysta's stream. We know Kiara's been culled somewhat, but come on now.
>>16175026Exactly as I said, 90k live viewers.
>>16174475Their audience don't really watch vtubers unless under collabs. You need constant collabs with their clique too or else you will end up like ash who is now a 1k-2k midget despite able to hit 60k peak on rust stream before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB4_offDg0M200% poll particpation in 6 minutes
Alright, Amelia with a watchalong, 1.3k waiting room. Will she become a 3 view this time? Susan seals her fate.
The view counter was frozen, that information isn't useful
>>16175197More than two hrs of that Kiara stream was spent on sc reading.
>>16175254Rumao this is worse than Nene's Twitch watchalong. Atleast Nene's got 2.3k
>>16174951based from what happened to Gura and Ame today, don't worry they are making it worse
>>16175209That's the biggest issue with Twitch in general near the top.You're just borrowing the clique's viewership until you become a permanent member of their clique or you'll see a nosedive in viewership.Reminds me of Code Miko or whatever her name was.
>>16175238That's just his regular numbers.
>>16175238
>>16175254It's going to be worse since she just had a big chunk of her most loyal viewers capped.
>>16175337Bad singers usually have higher viewer turnover.
>>16175209>>16175316Ash_on_lol?CodeMiko?dexerto is an expert to that>https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/top-10-most-popular-vtubers-2021-1548675/
>>16175499This article was on April 7, 2021 btw
Towa crimes:>gave holoaids to Hal, which spread to Kuzuha and his gang >gave holoaids to VSPO, Ratna and other APEX addictsShe infected half of the industry by herself.
>287holy fuck susan be gentle.
Amelia waiting room 1.9K down to 287. Massive fucking cut.
>>16175594What a stacy
>>16175594devilish
>>16175664yeah, she had a bunch of people getting the CCVid from Gura's stream
>>16175664Not surprising looking at what they did during the previous stream. She's going to be missing 300+ viewers minimum.
>>16175594Towa Maji Akuma
>>16175594Can you check the numbers of random unaffiliated VTubers to see if it affects them or not as well?
>>16175594I KNEEL
>>16169208Sold outhttps://twitter.com/nekomataokayu/status/1480372085482729473
>>16175664-85%, that's already JP level of severity
>>16175751Hololive printing money.It looks like a lot of their recent real life events have all been selling out.
>>16175594
>>16175751>Ticketingyeah they needed that https://twitter.com/yamatocelica/status/1480355145393524740/photo/3
>>16175751Nice to see though a limited venue like a physical restaurant is going to be hard capped pretty easily. She seems like a perfect match for a restaurant collab. Do we ever get numbers on the pop up cafe promotions? Cafes usually have pretty slim profit margins but you can crank the prices on events like this.
>>16175751Hololive>sold out instantly on EVERYTHING they do>including stuff that requires for you to PHYSICALLY be thereSusan>hmmmmmmmm, not real humans, bots
>>16175904What the everloving fuck? Is this a great deal? Are their hamburger steaks awesome? Is she that popular in Jp? What would be the us equivalent. Lining up at Chilis for a Ame promotion? This seems insane to me
>>16175751holy based
>>16171530>"now only Vshojo's top 3 can regularly crack 10K CCV">Nah, they can't even get past 20kAnon, do you even know how numbers work?
>>16176015Didn't Taco Bell had the collab with Gura?But don't compare otaku autisms with westoid fan culture.
>>16176015Dedicated fans who will turn out for anything?Good the for the restaurant though with guaranteed sales. I imagine the SkyTree restaurant made a lot of money as well. I saw a ton of tweets of people going to the SkyTree collab after getting their stuff from the Hololive booth at comiket.They're also selling a fork/steak knife for $40 on the Hololive shop.
>>16173194I wasnt watching but isn’t that cause it lagged? Viewers drop when that happens and they have to reset
>>16176015Susan is racist>they all look the same, so I will only count the ones that look different>line up here, yellow monkeys>desu
>>16176325no, it was actually the opposite, it was a very popular song that made her cry AND people started using the :hot_dog: emojihere is a portion I recorded, I wasn't expecting that so I had the wrong settingshttps://streamable.com/mfrxxj
>>16176325it lagged a couple of times for me and according to some people on global, it lagged for them to
has anyone compared pikamee's recent numbers since she's doing regular streams on both twitch and youtube?
https://twitter.com/noriopro/status/1480373840622489607Graduation (or fired?)
>>16176407It didn't lag for me, at all, maybe your potato PC can't handle the hotdog emotes being spammed in chat
>>16176407No lag here and I was watching multiple streamsalso recording for my personal archive
>>16176454>only have this place and youtube open>16gb ramJesus how unoptimized is Youtube when it can't even run properly with a decent set-up
>>16176438But the life family....how are Aizono and Itou-life gonna feel
>>16176438Wait isn't she that succubus who was cozy with Choco?
>>16176438didn't she have health issues? collapsed few weeks ago
>>16176541it's shit, but try compiling the browser for yourself, it gives me enough performance to work on windows, the shit dies if I try to open the emote bar they have but it's definitively betterthis doesn't happen on linux, flawless performance on the same computer
>>16176438Oh, the girl who suddenly vanished during one of her streams last Dec. right? Turned out the rumour of her getting raped is probably true after all.
>>16176541The browser site is absolute SHIT on windows. Opening emotes has 0 issues on mobile, it's pretty pathetic.
>>16176438is noripro a black company now?
>>16176438>acts suspected of violating the law>serious breach of contract>false declarations>acts that violate non-disclosure agreementsWell alrighty then, seems like Norio has a nice little agency going on that punches above their weight with SCs (she was one of their top earners last year too), I hope this doesn't affect the other talents there
>>16176438She got fired.>Acts that are suspected of violating the law>Serious breach of contract>False declarations>Acts that violate nondisclosure agreements
>>16176438Is this another Monoe situation again?
>>16176873>>16176874Jeezuz.What the bloody hell did she do that they went and stated she was fired due to FOUR different reasons?
>>16175277Doesn't matter, 1 hr VS 4.5 hrs is a dumb comparison.Even 1 hr VS 2 hrs is already dumb.
Top 50 Holo originals ranking now outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHbygszLA34
>>16176438Warabe is next....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_H3LIi4X-kMumei song trailer.
>>16177011nice
>>16177091Huh. Full release NEXT week, so probably after the outfit relay? If not, then Sunday release I guess.
>>16177011>No reflectJesus Christ. how the mighty have fallen
>>16177063Don't you curse my grandmawife with that nonsense
>>16177175Anon....
>>16177175It's number 8, anon.
>>16177175Blindchama....Here's your (You), please get some glasses.
>>16176438Tweet deleted?
>Graduation for Norio>Gura breaking 20k>Mumei Teaser>Okayu Cafe selling outWhat a good day for the /news/ thread
>>16176438kek predict the viewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYuiA_QL1QY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYuiA_QL1QY>gets fired for breaking the law>streams on her roommate channel the same day
>>16175594It's not a thing that spreads from streamer to streamer, nor did it originally affect only Hololive. Stop with this retarded metaphor.
>>16177258Wrong date, so they deleted and reposted.https://twitter.com/noriopro/status/1480383446510084102
>>1617701110. Mori - Red9. Watame and Botan - ShishiWata Cooking8. Gura - REFLECT7. Suisei - Bye Bye Rainy6. Suisei - GHOST5. Mori - RIP4. Mori - end of life3. Suisei - Stellar Stellar2. Watame - My Song1. Towa - FACT
>>16177329>>16177310seems based to me, come on girl give us some rrats from noripro
>>16177310>生きることにしました。well then
Mumei's MV teaser premiering with barely any warning:https://youtu.be/W_H3LIi4X-k
>>16177091Only 15 seconds
>>16177497>Releasing a bit before IRyS' stream so IRyS doesn't have to worry about overlapBased Mumei
>>16176438>>16177310>>16177329>>16177389Who is she and what did she do?
>>16177011Let's be real - numberfagging Holo originals by YouTube views is a complete clusterfuck. Suisei's Jibunkate Dazzling alone is split across:>Chunithm ver. MV>Full ver. MV>Jibunkate Dazzling EP (?) ver. on YouTube music>Still Still Stellar album ver. on YouTube musicAnd that's not even including Spotify etc.
>>16177310200
>>16177555>Who is shehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6gyJ42Ym04 you might know her as the girl who likes doing anal with her boyfriend.
>>16175499>>16175564
>>16177574Things like this still makes me laugh a bit.
>>16177574Well, when it's across that many different versions yes it's a nightmare.
https://vrabi.ml/video/E8VqyJYCTtcWhat the hell happened here?
>>16177565NUMBERKEKS?
>>16177718It's rough man. Dude worked behind the scenes for so long that, if you're not 'in the know', it's hard man.
Teakeks are viewbotting.>>16165322
>>16177310https://twitter.com/saya_magnet/status/1480313438253424644
>>16177906absolute madlad
>>16177175Do people who make these kind of posts just do it because they think if they keep posting it it will become true someday
>>16177906Yep that's the same thing that happened to one of the nijien males around Christmas, something fucky is happening.
>Mumei's teaser was only a few secondsThis reminds me of that Council cube flashback when it's a whole lot of nothing after. Why do they do this? Also, seems like the MV is made by the same guy who made Gen 3's MV and Pochi's King video.
>>16178121It was Ike, and it was on two streams.That shit definitely looks like some stupid fucker was viewbotting.
>>16178005And 生きててごめんなさい on the scheduled stream. I smell naughty rrats!
>>16177906this comment seems a little bit too intentional, I have never seen someone use "Jewess" in this threadssame can be said about view boting, there was a nigger in the early nijien threads (months ago) trying to convince people to use his shitty script but everyone called him a retardI smell a ruse, just after YT said they were working on it? yeah, sure
>>16178130This was successful in building up hype though. The council thing was just annoying "lore" and before people even knew what they were announcing
>>16178198No its more like YouTube's anti bot algo had a brainfart, we all know that the actual ccv is much higher than the displayed figure.
>>16177906Huh it Doesnt seem like a good idea.He might fuck over Ame channel.
>>16178349I'm not going to write it in either direction given the wacky bullshit we've seen out of Youtube these past few weeks. Regradless of what it is, BOTTING STREAMS IS GIGARETARDED THAT COULD GET THEIR CHANNELS FLAGGED. DO NOT DO IT.
>>16177906Weird we have less than 1000 viewers on the stream right now
>>16177906holy fucking kek my sides
>>16177718I've noticed Moris fans don't listen to any of her songs that aren't on her channel.
Bros...WTF...It's happeningNature is healing
>>16178331Yea most teamates never really seemed to give a shit for numbers and especially for a fucking watchalong of all things, I'm sure they'd realize it would do more harm than good. Something's fishy about that.
>>16178490pretty sure is an anti intentionally wanting to fuck over people
>>16178331Nothing happened to the other ongoing streams, that was 100% just one based retard botting
>>16178461This is not the only incident of this happening, remember https://youtu.be/LsnweO1aOu8Where her view count suddenly jumped from 20 something to over 200?I feel like we are onto something big here
>>16178466Can you please check the stream and find why?
>>16178488So YT anti-bots measure are pretty good? Just too good infact kek
>>16178542>Already thread in the catalogYep, 100% someone trying to stir the pot.
>>16178551The fucking idiot he's going to harm Ame channel if it does things like this
>>16178349That post literally says they viewbotted I’ve seen people bot subs in real time just for the heck of it
>>16178576That botting on Youtube doesn't work?Makes me wonder how they keep missing the cryptobots.
>>16178603Yes, I have no problems with them quashing ACTUAL bots, the issue of course, is that actual people getting flagged and taking 2 fucking days to get verified as real.
>>16177906Bots were donezo in 20 minutes. The algo sure is effective. Shame about the false positive rate though
>>16174062It hit trending and a bunch of randos flooded in briefly to check it out. Immediately dropped back to like 90k within a few minutes after the stream got shadowbanned.
>>16178576That was after someone posted her stream here so I'm pretty sure the faggot who did it was one of us, funnily enough her channel is on Playboard and that was her most "watched" stream ever at about double her second highest
>>16178655>>16178461It ain't gonna harm her channel, that would make viewbotting a very simple harassment method
>>16178760>File deletedAnon, what the fuck happened?
>>16178635yeah, 100% sure he's not a fan, Ame is literally allergic to numbers, and her fans know it, it's a shit stirrer sad thing is that he's going to do it again
In other news, Enna is doing a poll after almost 2 hours since she started and in less than a minute...
>>16178692No, more like some fuckery with how youtube verifies users. It's one thing if this is an isolated incident but it's not, it's happened three times now, all of which are in the era of the susanpocaplyse.
>>16178987Grab the time
>>16178974He chose a watchalong which makes it much more obvious at least. It's enough to bait some retards in the catalog for him though.
>>16178987>125% engagementI'm not even surprised at this point, just disappointed.
>>16178987>That screenShe is getting the bad end, isn't she?
>>16178590Unfortunatly im not strong eough in way of numbers so I cant help.But I have reloaded the video numerous time and didnt notice any noticeable change.
>>16178005M-magnet? Ominous.
>>16178987To be fair she left so her viewers dropped and probably voted before they left, but she had 900+ before that so probably some flagged accounts
>>16178987You need to have the time elapsed of the poll when you do poll screenshots anon.
>>16179209It was like a minute and around 100 had already dropped by then
>>16179103If you look at the chat on Enna's screen, it clearly says 1 minute ago.