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Decided to make a primer because I constantly see people posting the same dumb questions all the time. If you think there's missing information reply to the post with further additions modifications.
>spoonfeeding
Unfortunately, this isn't a 4chan problem so the trains and planes need to be loaded and the babies and retards need to be fed.

>What is happening?
Since at least the first of January, but possibly all the way to Christmas, users are being flagged by the YouTube anti-spam view detection system and kept from being displayed on CCV. You can tell because a lot of channels are showing an abnormal drop in audience size, the likes on a video are becoming larger compared to the CCV but the VOD views after the video ends remain stable as it has been before this was happening.

>Who is affected?
Everyone that exibits "bot-like" behavior. It doesn't matter if you are a free member with or without adblock, a YouTube Premium user or a creator; as long as you start doing things that makes you look like a bot to the AI, your account will not count towards the CCV.

>How do I know if I am flagged as a bot?
Look for a stream with 0 (or very low) views in YouTube Gaming or YouTube Live (the former has a better chance because of its structure) and open the stream. If the number doesn't change after 10 minutes, you are almost certainly flagged as a bot. Make sure that the view counter is stable when doing this. You might also want to try browsing using a private borwsing tab without logging in to verify that the CCV counter works. Avoid doing both of these things at the same time on the same device.

>So my oshi doesn't get my views?
Just for CCV during livestreams. Regular VOD views and and the total watch time for all the videos that you watch will be counted as long as you watch them in a manner that doesn't make the YouTube AI thinking that you're trully a bot and bans your account.

>How can I increase the CCV to the livestreams that I watch?
You don't, because all you risk is triggering the AI if it starts searching for other parameters and could end up affecting not just you, but the streamer as well. However, if you intend on doing so anyway, you just need to open a "private browsing" (Incognito, InPrivate, etc) instance on your browser and go to YouTube manually, search for the channel/livestream and open the stream without logging in. If you want to still participate, you can open the stream using your account on a completely separate device that isn't your browser to make sure the CCV counter isn't affected.

>> No.15887937

>>15887875
>Asus had a waiting room of 1m+ that was culled to 50k
https://i.imgur.com/oP3tnyi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gB3eMnO.png
https://i.imgur.com/CNgXesD.png

>> No.15887993

>>15887875
KILL YOURSELF WHO GIVES A FUCK ITS NOT LIKE THEY ARE LOSING SUPERCHAT REVENUE YOU FUCKING AUTIST
You could learn 10 Japanese words in the time for writing all that so you could discuss something more important than NOOOMBERZ

>> No.15888014

Thanks for the feedback lol.

>> No.15888024

>>15877546

>> No.15888029
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>> No.15888065

>>15887993
>Japanese words
>/vt/
the only japanese youll be hearing is when your mutt oshi invades a jp stream with fluent (broken) japanese

>> No.15888082

In this case, the numbers do matter.

>> No.15888089

>>15888029
>ONE THOUSAND PERCENT ENGAGEMENT
yeah sounds about right

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>>15887993
>>15888024

>> No.15888120

>>15888029
now what was the peak of that stream?

>> No.15888123

>>15887993
shut up. amerimutt tranny. nobody really needs to do damage control like that. only you amerimutt tranny niggers are doing it

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>>15887993
>>15888024

>> No.15888177

>>15888029
I'm not sure if I like Hoshikawa's new outfit, I think I need to see some art first

>> No.15888195

>>15888150
But you ARE the ones seething and coping for days
have some fucking self-awareness

>> No.15888224

>>15887875
Supposedly correct stats are shown in their dashboard and this is all just an issue with the public facing numbers.
https://twitter.com/ShibuyaHAL/status/1478734687401279492

>> No.15888324

>>15887993
how could someone supposed to decide who their oshi is without looking at their numbers? you wouldn't want to decide to support a looser

>> No.15888439

>>15888224
Lol, removing 4.5k out of 6k, I knew it was bad but not this bad

>> No.15888448

>>15888224
After several days, he's seeing the same numbers we are seeing when the stream is live

>> No.15888474

>>15888195
Anon you literally opened up your original post saying KYS. That's a definitive sign of someone seething.

>> No.15888491

>>15888195
No you are the ones seething that people post stuff you don't like on the vtuber board and refuse to conform to your views on what is an isn't a containment thread, now piss off or seethe eternally.

>> No.15888542

>>15888195
kill yourself, amerimutt tranny nigger or go back to resetera

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>>15887875
you got caught botting, get over it. vshojo is at the top of the numbers now

>> No.15888666

Susan is scared. Susan can’t count and she’s afraid everyone will find out. You dumb bitch. Give my oshi back her numbers.

>> No.15888958 [DELETED] 

>>15887875
tl;dr
VShojo won and Twitch is the future. Sorry reality is a bitch, weeb.

>> No.15888997 [DELETED] 

>>15888666
Private company bro, they're not obliged to do anything for your nip whores, weeb.

>> No.15889035

>>15888958
Lol

>> No.15889053

>>15887875
Alright, when are we storming youtube hq with torches and pitchforks?

>> No.15889111 [DELETED] 

>>15889035
You're a minority here. Read the room, weeb

>> No.15889138

>>15888997
do amerimutt woke niggers still use this ancient rhetoric

>> No.15889178

>>15888958
>>15888997
>>15889111
Whoa bro posting three times doesn't make you three people

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>>15888150
Is this photoshopped?

>> No.15889233 [DELETED] 

>>15889178
Silent majority here always watched VShojo more than any weeb shit.
>>15889138
How is YouTube not a private company? Yes it's objectively shit, but it's a private company by definition.

>> No.15889261

>>15889111
why is this tranny so desperate to defend SJWtube.

>> No.15889350 [DELETED] 

>>15889261
I'm not. I'm actually suggesting that if Hololive and Nijisanji want to save their brands, they should migrate to Twitch full scale and see how they compete with VShojo and their other major personalities there. It's clear as day the CCV for Hololive on Twitch and now on YouTube is already not nearly as great as Vei or Nyanners, so let's see where they really stand!

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>>15889233
amerimutt woke niggers are literally chink bug tier bots. all of them say the same shit like cult members.

>> No.15889385

>>15889261
He's a vshocuck crowing about his day in the sun

>> No.15889444

>>15889350
Vshojo is literal weebshit, though

>> No.15889546 [DELETED] 

>>15889444
Nah. It's just virtual expression done with homages to old VTubing culture that came with AI, Mirai, and Mito as inspirations. It's always been a thing. Even before 2016. You're just ignorant on facts.

>> No.15889557

>>15889362
people were born with a political affiliation apparently so it's totally the same. No one has accurate data on what's happening with youtube so quit taking your marching orders from /#/. vshojo topping the numbers game at this moment is irrefutable fact

>> No.15889588 [DELETED] 

>>15889362
Thankfully Twitch won't censor you for having alternative viewpoints.

>> No.15889666

>>15889588
Is this a joke?

>> No.15889684 [DELETED] 

>>15889385
>day in the sun
You mean the foreseeable future after nip corpos and some indies got caught viewbotting? Interest for Hololive has been down for more than a year due to the fallout with Coco and not providing anything for their overseas talents and naturally they've found a better alternative in VShojo, which is everything an agency should be doing for its talents.

>> No.15889721 [DELETED] 

>>15889666
No? They do ban you for insensitive remarks, but they don't ban you for holding different political opinions.

>> No.15890205

>>15889721
Didn't they ban you for saying trap awhile back? Or simp? Or half a dozen other no no words because being on the cutting edge of social justice is hard work and you need to keep being on the edge lest your devoted fans turn on you and eat you whole?

>> No.15890315

>>15887875
https://files.catbox.moe/gvxy5f.webm
"I don't think it's gonna be fixed any time soon "defeated chuckle"
So just get used to it."
Alright twitch migration when?

>> No.15890725

>>15889684
You will always belong on /trash/ with the rest of your trooner kin

>> No.15890847 [DELETED] 

>>15890205
Meds

>> No.15890880 [DELETED] 

>>15890205
And yet it's still the best streaming outlet in the world today. Just comply and you won't have these problems. But they're nowhere near as bad as JewTube.

>> No.15890938
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you're free to leave youtube anytime

>> No.15891001 [DELETED] 

>>15890938
I honestly doubt most Holos will be able to top that on Twitch. It's really looking good for VShojo.

>> No.15891095

>>15891001
Pika's been getting a steady 3k, a phase connect 2 view I watch doubles her viewership easily when she does twitch streams.
Youtube was never a proper streaming platform and to top it off its largely run by bots.

Hell even Nijisanji is experimenting with twitch, using Selen as a guinea pig, pretty obvious they're looking into as well.

>> No.15891099

>>15891001
Miko topped that with a watchalong

>> No.15891415

>>15890938
Twitch is completely ruined by the fact that VODs are temporary.

>> No.15891617

>>15891415
Yeah they would still need to backup their videos on youtube, like most streamers do.

>> No.15891627

>>15891415
Please andastd, Amazon is a small indie company that can't afford the storage. 14 days is enough for you isn't it?

>> No.15891676

>>15891415
That's not an issue cause there's a native feature to export to youtube. Being split between platforms may be dumb but regardless.
What really sucks is the ads being forced by splicing them into the HLS stream, lack of being able to pause and let a buffer build up to prevent unwanted buffer pauses mid-stream (though even on youtube you need a userscript to enable it for streams with it disabled), lower max bitrate forcing even worse bitrate starving than we already see on most tumor streams on youtube, and for me the site doesn't even work 70% of the time. Though that last one could be my own fault with any combination of having umatrix, ublock, and being on linux. Not that whitelisting the site completely in ublock or umatrix helps at all.

>> No.15891822

>>15887875
Everyone keeps saying CCV, but no one ever says what it stands for. I still don't know.

>> No.15892087

>>15887993
Because a perceived decline in viewership harms confidence in the brand. It could affect fan enthusiasm if Hololive (or any agency) appears to be declining even though we know they actually aren't. It could also affect the future generations as a perceived decline could make some of the more high spec candidates think twice about applying to Hololive altogether.

This could potentially harm Hololive quite a bit. Youtube needs to fix their shit.

>> No.15892089

the truth is that asians are retardads and use bots so youtube lost it's patience

>> No.15892110

>>15891822
ConCurrent Viewers

>> No.15892175

>>15890938
>bragging about twitch numbers
She got raided you dent head.

>> No.15892186

>this holocope
Holy fuck.

>> No.15892289

>>15892087
Yeah especially with sponsorships. Imagine a sponsored stream getting less than 1k live viewers. Even if the total views are high, it just makes them look bad.

>> No.15892297

>>15887875
Thank you OP for an actual decent post.

>> No.15892385

>>15888623
>>15889684
>>15892089
>90% of the youtube streamers were view botting
>all testimony from flagged accounts who don't count as view are fake
>Asus stream was 90% bots

>>15892186
t. never opened a niji thread. Everyone is discussing that

>> No.15892498 [DELETED] 

>>15887875
So what happens if you're flagged as a bot? Are you just shit out of luck and will it turn into something like that shadowban bug a few months back?

>>15889362
This poorly drawn comic is a giant strawman. To any non-bugers, the conservative supreme court in America ruled that private businesses had the right to refuse services to anyone they want bakery refused to serve gay. Facebook is using that ruling to remove people who spreads clear misinformation about Covid-19 or inciting violence, like the Jan 6th insurrection.
The comic is just conservatives projecting that they want to discriminate, but are upset that they are being held accountable for their own actions.

>> No.15892702

>>15887875
Gura falls back a couple thousand viewers behind Nyanners and the world goes batshit. They’re just numbers. R E L A X

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>>15892385
Yeah even 100 live viewers indies are botting where more than half their views drop, crazy!
And yeah it's affecting Niji too.

>> No.15892781

>Youtube is killing everyone's algorithms right now
>I've talked about it with some girls who brought it up to me
>It's not that noticeable for me due to the new viewers but it does seem lower than it should
>don't expect it to get fixed
Kiara's comments on the situation

>> No.15892853

>>15891095
I'll laugh when Niji just moves to Twitch and starts mogging HoloEN in numbers

It kind of reminds me of own3d.tv when it had a monopoly yet started completely shitting the bed so everyone left for Twitch. But a few retarded autists decided to stick with own3d and lost so much viewership due to it, basically going down with the ship.

>> No.15893120

>>15892853
Holo already have twitch channels

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>>15887875
>200% reddit post
dozo
now fuck off

>> No.15893333

>>15892702
numbers thread had a meltdown when gura had 9k while veibae had 14k. They're actually mentally ill

>> No.15893353 [DELETED] 

>>15891099
Where?

>> No.15893394
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>>15887875
Cope

>> No.15893397 [DELETED] 

>>15891415
Not like VOD is necessary if it means maintaining a higher CCV for pay. It's why many of the lower CCV Holos have voiced their displeasure with it. They can resurrect their names on Twitch for the better due to YouTube failing them.

>> No.15893426 [DELETED] 

>>15891676
This. Perfectly said. VOD can always be transferred to YouTube. All of VShojo does this. Hololive has absolutely no excuse to not migrate to Twitch now.

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>>15893397
>It's why many of the lower CCV Holos have voiced their displeasure with it.

>> No.15893471 [DELETED] 

>>15892087
Hololive has been declining more than a year due to ENMa's retardation, Coco's graduation, and a number of other factors. Nijisanji has experienced a little growth in popularity, but the real show is at VShojo and the current numbers show.

>> No.15893481

>>15892385
>90% of the youtube streamers were view botting
I see what your tactic is. You're trying to make this seem like a more widespread phenomenon than it really is, so that it will force youtube to reverse their policy and you can return to viewboosting like you were before.
I am fans of several low-view streamers, and they are unaffected. Non-vtubers also do not seem to be affected.

>> No.15893530 [DELETED] 

>>15892702
CCV is everything regarding pay in Hololive but you didn't know that because you have convinced yourself Cover never will be a black company when almost 50 instances have proven it so dating back to 2018.

>> No.15893566

>>15893333
No? When was the last time Gura ever dipped below 10k

>> No.15893571 [DELETED] 

>>15893464
Noel's latest zatsu. She did not receive a bonus for meeting her CCV-related incentives. Believe me I actually watch your own black company's streams.

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Right after the change happened, the numbers thread had a complete meltdown, and started discussing ways to get around the new patch.

>> No.15893658

>>15893571
Timestamp?

>> No.15893672

>>15893631
>People want their views to actually be counted
Oh no!

>> No.15893703

>>15887875
holobronies claim to not be numberfags and yet they come up this massive cope to justify their whores' rapidly declining numbers

>> No.15893706

>>15893481
>Asus

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>>15893703

>> No.15893743 [DELETED] 

>>15887875
Offtopic thread.
No one gives a shit about Holoshit, brony.

>> No.15893752

>>15893566
2 days ago

>> No.15893784

>>15893703
retard

>> No.15893793 [DELETED] 

>>15893721
>everything I don't like is bait
COPE HARDER NIGGA YOUR TALENTLESS NIP WHORES GOT EXPOSED FOR GOOD AND WE KNEW IT THE WHOLE TIME

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>>15893793
My favourite girl is Rosemi, retard

>> No.15893884

I know you guys are pretty young but you need to calm down a bit. Being stressed and angry over numbers all the time is no good for your health and you’ll notice the consequences 10 years from now.

>> No.15893901

>>15893743
>No one
95% of this board is holo anonchama , if anything that llittle group you belong is the tourist

>> No.15893950

>>15893471
>believing all those false peaks due to raids
You Vshojo faggots are really stupid.

>> No.15893953

>>15887875
>hollowlife only got popular beacuase of the coof
>now that the pandemic is pretty much over their numbers are starting go back down to what they once were
>I-IT MUST BE A YOUTUBE CONSPIRACY, SUSAN HATES HOLOLIVE

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There was a viewboost exploit that involved opening up thousands of tiny windows. This was widely known in the Asian and widely used to boost streamers, indies were doing it too

Youtube patched that exploit, which was good. But then they went a bit too far by flagging people who posted emotes in chat. So it was a mixed bag

I think the point is, the numbers don't matter and they never did. It is pretty dishonest that these botted views are still counting towards the view total, considering youtube pays out money for every couple thousand views on your videos. So these people are still defrauding youtube by a lot

>> No.15894041 [DELETED] 

>>15893901
It's not even 70% of the catalog anymore lmao. Just admit Nijisanji, VShojo, Tsunderia, and other indies are becoming successful alternatives for ex-Holofags who want something with standards.
>>15893950
>muh raid
Here we go with this cope again.

>> No.15894071

>>15893950
>raids don't count but holos padded bot numbers do count
lmoa

>> No.15894113 [DELETED] 

>>15893950
>bots good live people bad
Holobronies everyone

>> No.15894126

>>15893631
The changes actually made it easier to actually bot as well. A fresh account is less likely to get flagged. Incognito is less likely to get flagged. We’ve seen Zhang wheelbarrows counted as viewers instead of devoted gachikois. Fuck, NGA antis are probably why FBK still gets to have CCV above 10k. It’s all fucked up

>> No.15894146

>>15894039
Imagine being this much of a boot licker.

>> No.15894151 [DELETED] 

>>15893950
>he says when Cover just got exposed for viewbotting for the past 2 years and its clear as day people just don't give a shit about Holoshit anymore and have moved on to alternatives and their old interests due to one black company moment after another
top kek holobronies are actually delusional beyond belief. it's actually insane.

>> No.15894202 [DELETED] 

>>15894146
But he's right for once. Viewbotting and then punishing your talents for not reaching CCV-related incentives as they're nuked is actual black company shit. YOU are the bootlicker, Coverfag.

>> No.15894218

>>15894151
Nice headcanon. Hve you considered getting your fiction published?

>> No.15894235

>numberfagging
>Not wanting your "hobby" infested with "normies"
Pick one

>> No.15894255

>>15888150
it's real...

>> No.15894274

Reminder that crypto coin and gift card scams that are 24/7 live with a pre-recorded video have bots counting as live viewers while legit viewers don't count. Botting youtube is still easy as fuck and Youtube fixed nothing.

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>>15894218
I've got all day with you, Holotourist. Bet you haven't even seen this yet.

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>>15894151
I was saying this the entire time. It didn't make any sense that Nijisanji EN had pretty much the same donations as Hololive EN, but Hololive EN had vastly more viewers. It didn't make any sense. The only explanation that makes sense is that hololive was boosting viewers. This entire time they've been shitting on Nijisanji because "look how low your numbers are". And it's because they were boosting this entire time.

I still think that hololive has higher viewers. But for all the anons dishonestly arguing that viewers = quality, they knew exactly what they were doing. They were lying. I was right all along

>> No.15894355

>>15888029
Damn bro, advertisers should look for engagement metrics more!
>1 0 0 0 %

>> No.15894402

>numberfaggots on suicide watch
You love to see it.

>> No.15894419

>>15887875
Just a question, if it doesn't affect anything except the live viewers, why should I care?

>> No.15894428

>>15888029
That's a bad one. Watson also had a bad one.
Kanae was apparently mentioning it recently as well, and Hal.

>> No.15894448 [DELETED] 

>>15894309
>I still think that hololive has higher viewers.
I really think Hololive and Nijisanji are about equal in the end. VShojo is the top dog corporationwise. Hololive has been slowly but steadily reclining to early 2018 levels and Nijisanji inclining back to pre-2019 levels. Using the real numbers now that the viewbots have been exposed, it's nice to see we've got some truth to who really dominates the numbers game and as a Nijifag myself I can accept it since I do like Nyanners and Mousey.

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>>15891415
You can do what other streamers do, upload the VOD after 24 hours
hell, you can even use [picrelated] to sync the LiveChat archive
https://chatreplay.stream/
the only problem is mobile viewers

>> No.15894540

>>15893631
>we have YT shills here
>replying to themselves too

>> No.15894545 [DELETED] 

>>15894428
Most people here don't care about Japanese streamers because they'll never be.

>> No.15894579

>>15894151
This as per usual fail to explain why even western indies have been having the same problem and they all moved to twitch a year ago, but Nijiniggers gonna nigger.

>> No.15894586 [DELETED] 

>>15894540
NTA but viewbotting and then blaming YouTube for your own company denying their own talents bonuses based on CCV when exposed in the dark only makes YT look good in comparison to Cover.

>> No.15894616 [DELETED] 

>>15894579
ON YOUTUBE NIGGA. Twitch is perfectly fine and seeing viewer boosts on all cylinders. Your Twitch indies should benefit from the cull.

>> No.15894666

>>15893353
NTA but she does it each friday usually at 23:00 or 00:00 jst
she gets arround 14k+ on a watchalong, there are alot more japs actually watching streams compared to en

>> No.15894674

>>15894586
Anon, I think you are right. I also feel the same way with you. I agree that every vtuber agency, cover and anykara and vspo etc. on youtube are all viewbotting. Which is why every vtuber got their viewers reduced regardless of agency. Incidentally indies are viewbotting too. Such as Shibuya Hal. And also even the 2views are viewbotting. They are actually 0 views and because of viewbots they appear as 2 views. So this cull is entirely justified.

>> No.15894693

>>15894616
Every vtuber will move to twitch, even the Nijis.
Selen already went there, it is just a matter of time.
What happened in the microscale will happen in the macro.

>> No.15894727 [DELETED] 

>>15894666
That's not enough to top Nyanners' CCV. Accept VShojo has won.

>> No.15894736

>>15894586
>>15894674
Yeah it's crazy, everybody is viewbotting and only like 50% higher than their regular numbers too not even something crazy. What a coincidence.

>> No.15894762

>>15893397
would you also get fucked in the ass if it improved muh numbers? retarded numberfag

>> No.15894834 [DELETED] 

>>15894693
But how long do we think it will be until the Twitch migration kicks off? I want to say as early as March but there's just so much to do and sacrifice to get there and yes I understand everything that will need to be done away to comply with Twitch will ultimately be better for Hololive. After all, CCV is everything and it's ultimately why people both get into Hololive and stay there. Money talks.

>> No.15894855

A weird amount of Amazon shills in this thread. Do they let you guys go to the bathroom outside of your breaks?

>> No.15894859

>>15894151
>>15894299
see >>15887937

>> No.15894869 [DELETED] 

>>15894762
Yes. Money is everything. CCV is how they get paid annually and monthly. This is a fact that comes with the hobby you've put yourself into. YouTube has betrayed Hololive and Twitch is just about ready to welcome them with open arms. They want a resurgence in popularity, this is it. Will they top VShojo though? I don't know.

>> No.15894872

>>15894855
Come back to Nico Nico

>> No.15894913 [DELETED] 

>>15887937
Seems more and more like the Japanese just have to viewbot to be relevant lmao

>> No.15894920

Fags in here really be tribalfagging over streaming platforms.

>> No.15894927

What'a with everyone saying Hololive is viewbotting and getting what they deseeve when even Nijisanji is heavily affected?

>> No.15894946

Hololive and Nijisanji are going to have to move to Twitch to stay relevant!

>> No.15894956

>>15894920
almost sure it's just shitposting like >>15894913

>> No.15894957

>>15887993
>learn 10 Japanese words
why? what the fuck
learning words of such a useless and dying language, I'd rather literally learn nothing

>> No.15894971 [DELETED] 

>>15894855
Nigga I'm not shilling, I'm just stating trends for the foreseeable future for Hololive to remain profitable if it wants to do so. It's just out of touch boomers like you who can't read business trends and how the corporate VTubing industry works. It ain't pretty and you need to do more research before crying "SHILL" at people who care about declining corporations.

>> No.15894994

>>15894946
Haha! I agree good sir! You make an excellent point!

>> No.15895054 [DELETED] 

>>15894994
Did you guys know that you get free Twitch subs if you link your Amazon prime account? What a great deal!

>> No.15895081

>>15889233
>weeb shit
Get out of 4chan normalfag

>> No.15895120

>[Deleted]
KEK

>> No.15895198

>twitch
the 50-50 revenue split would hurt my oshi compared to the 70-30 split of YouTube.

>> No.15895224

>>15895198
that gets renegotiated after reaching partner

>> No.15895237

>>15894151
>>15894299
HAHAHHAAHAH GET FUCKED SHITPOSTERS.

>> No.15895252

>>15888120
1100

>> No.15895461

>ctrl+f [deleted]
>39 results
JESAS

>> No.15895735

Samefaggers should not be able to shit up the board so hard. I request user ids to be toggled when it gets egregious.

>> No.15895999

>>15888958
>>15888997
>>15889111
>>15889233
>>15889350
>>15889362
>>15889546
>>15889588
>>15889684
>>15889721
>>15890847
>>15890880
>>15891001
>>15892498
>>15893353
>>15893397
>>15893426
>>15893471
>>15893530
>>15893571
>>15893743
>>15893793
>>15894041
>>15894113
>>15894151
>>15894202
>>15894299
>>15894448
>>15894545
>>15894586
>>15894616
>>15894727
>There is a grand total of 1 Vshojo fan on /vt/ and its just this dude samefagging constantly
lol

>> No.15896046

>all those [Deleted]
And numberfags wonder why they're so despised.

>> No.15897939

>unironic last samurai
tom cruises character dies at the end fyi

>> No.15898682
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>>15887875
Adding to your autism, seems like yt keeps a track of your IP and may or may not count both views from 2 devices sharing the same internet connection even in Incognito
t. 2views watcher that tries to boost their views with his phone

>> No.15898713

>>15887875
>the youtube AI doesn't consider me a human being
hurt feelings

>> No.15898927

>>15897939
>tom cruises
Where to?

>> No.15899326

>>15897939
esl indogchama...

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>>15887875
If this continues, there's a chance that Holo/Niji would transfer to Twitch. Even indies with usual high CCVs are affected.

>> No.15900029
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15900029

Next time a numberfag gets uppity; post this.

>> No.15900281

>>15900029
That's a lot of dead posts. What a shizo.

>> No.15900615

>>15892087
>>15892089
What a bunch of simps. Hololive getting lower numbers doesn't have anything to do with you.

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>>15895999
>All deleted
Kek

>> No.15904663

Susan's Algorythms are just dogshit. I'm still using my YT account from 2009 and I've noticed my live view doesn't even get counted when I watched some 2view last year on my iPad. Mind you, this account as been very active ever since it was created. I basically used it almost daily for the last 10 years. There is just no reason to assume I'm a bot. Susan is just blindly flagging random accounts.

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>>15895999
holy fuck, meds cant help this fucker

>> No.15905644

>>15900029
>>15896046
>Numberfag
You mean vshocuck right?

>> No.15906939
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15906939

https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1478907464565374977

>> No.15907660

>>15894126
>NGA antis are probably why FBK still gets to have CCV above 10k
lel

>> No.15907746

>>15893706
>a sus

>> No.15908321

>>15894927
they're seething and trolling but forgot that the problem also happened to them too.

>> No.15908409

>>15894927
trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls

>> No.15908544

>>15907746

>> No.15910815
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>>15887875
Vshojo mogging all of Hololive. Higher numbers than even Pekora and Marine.

>> No.15911423

Shut the fuck up about emote spamming affecting anything. That rrat has been posted since Coco's spam problem and it wasn't true then and it's not true now either.

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>>15910815

>> No.15913581

>>15892087
You can just stop your post at the first sentence and you'd be full of shit.

The actual issue comes from the algorithm. Literally nothing else matters.

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15917938

https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1478922404290342916

>> No.15918447

>>15893333
Holobronies can't take the banter when they aren't on top lol

>> No.15918489

>>15887875
>Look for a stream with 0 (or very low) views in YouTube Gaming or YouTube Live (the former has a better chance because of its structure) and open the stream. If the number doesn't change after 10 minutes, you are almost certainly flagged as a bot.
Something interesting - when I do this it doesn't immediately register my view, but when I refresh the video I'm there. With private browsing I show up immediately.

>> No.15918534

>>15917938
>thank you for andastan
Lol.

>> No.15918771

>>15894309
Yeah, I doesn't make sense when a channel has ten times the numbers but only makes 1.5 times the money.
Really makes my me think

>> No.15919046

>>15888177
this, preferably of her getting railed by fat old men

>> No.15919238

>>15919046
bbbased

>> No.15919371
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15919371

Youtube must think almost everyone's a bot because Marine can't even break 5k when before she used to push 40k just doing chatting streams.

>> No.15923443

>>15919371
I hate youtube so fucking much

>> No.15924819

>>15900029
You mean the vshoujoschizo that shits number threads

>> No.15925643

>>15887993
>Learn Japanese word instead of posting!
You first

>> No.15927044

https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1479021115443855360
More evidence of YouTube taking its sweet time to process viewers.

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15927838

>>15887993

>> No.15928186

>>15927044
How can we say for sure now that these are the real numbers after a day?
We still don't know anything about the process as to how and why they classify someone as a real viewer.
I just don't trust any numbers anymore.

>> No.15928745

>>15893706
What's wrong with Asus? I thought the made good monitors?

>> No.15929442
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15929442

https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1479021115443855360

>> No.15929476

>>15928745
>Asus had a waiting room of 1m+ that was culled to 50k
https://i.imgur.com/oP3tnyi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gB3eMnO.png
https://i.imgur.com/CNgXesD.png

>> No.15929529

>>15917938
>>15918534
Don't use google translate. DeepL is more reliable, though definitely not perfect.

>We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We have received a number of reports regarding the issue of a decrease in the number of simultaneous viewers during live streaming, and our dedicated department is currently working on a fix. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

>> No.15930733

>>15887875
Thanks for the thread but there is a lot better pics you could use as evidence than op - like 100%+ engagement polls in mere minutes, difference between live ccv and archived ccv in yt analytics tool, absurd ccv vs total views, absurd chat speed and unique chatters for low ccv, actual vtubers calling it out like Miko Mori Selen Shibuya Hal Sena, mikorone marathon 2 part discrepancy (same vod views half the ccv), etc

>> No.15930796

>>15917938
Niggertube SJWs absolutely failed lmao

>> No.15931066

>All those [deleted]
Holy fucking shit
I don't mind numberfagging under these circumstances, but it really exposed an ultra schizo

>> No.15931135

>>15931066
Faggots looking to try to weaponize it for an epic win have been just straight up ignoring facts proving it hits everyone and it's fucking irritating. Do they think we're all fucking stupid and can't see through it, or are they themselves that fucking stupid to believe what they're saying?

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>>15931135
Pretending to be retarded is a time honoured shitposting strategy, there is a reason this exists

>> No.15931272

>>15929529
They're not going to do anything because it would require them to reverse user flags, something that they are not going to do because their system would just flag the users again.

>> No.15932927

>>15887875
まつり「同接バグ最近エグいみたいですね~」
まつり「下に表示されてるやつとアナリティクスで3倍、4倍ぐらい違うwww」
まつり「2万人くらい見てるのに3000人になってたりとか」
https://youtu.be/qvb2KFUhDbM?t=165
>www that [ccv] is 3 times or 4 times different in analytics from the one displayed below

>> No.15933062

>>15932927
YOUTUBE FIX YOUR SHIT

>> No.15934410
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15934410

Azki's poll closed in two minutes

>> No.15934511

>>15887875
What site is this

>> No.15934729

>>15888029
Susan will just tell them to stop counting poll numbers from 'spambots'. Until they get sued this will continue.

>> No.15934914

Wouldn't a members stream be the easiest way to demonstrate the offset between public CCV and poll votes? You can't get randos, there's no reason for viewers to drop out of content they PAID for mid-stream, and would bots even be able to buy a membership?

>> No.15934957

>>15934914
yeah, but the thing is that membership streams don't have public CCVs

>> No.15936151

>>15934511
holostats

>> No.15939668

Anyone remember when YouTube video views used to get stuck at 300 for a while until they were fully processed for bot-like behavior? This feels pretty much like the same thing.

>> No.15939799

>>15939668
I recall it being 301, but yes seems like this is similar to that

>> No.15939843

>>15932927
Holos are in a big surprise when their ad revenue is cut based on the displayed number

>> No.15939858

>>15939843
???

>> No.15939930

>>15939858
it happened with some KPOP companies who complained about it before, their live analysis was showing a different number but Youtube paid them based on what was being shown(while charging the advertisers based on the higher numbers)

>> No.15940862

>>15898682
>Doesn't use his phone data on his phone and wired connection on his PC
Ngmi

>> No.15941001

>>15887993
What is it that the kids like to say? "You will never be japanese" or something.

>> No.15943118

>>15931272
So you think it will stay like this forever?

>> No.15943252

>>15887937
I checked the vod totals for this video. They appear normal for a video with 40-45k live viewers and na hour duration, so whatever that waiting room was was either a visual bug, or ACTUAL bots, or the screenshot is faked.

>> No.15944304

>>15943252
Viewbotting is the standard practice for large conglomerates like ASUS

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