/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>15803088
Tits don't float in water. Dumb whore.

>>15803088
her shota shit is all staged. this began when her fans made the narrative and gained popularity to some extent. she isnt even really an otaku. more like a subculture lover. iirc one of her favorite anime shows is akira.

>>15810145
Her big tits are also fake

>>15810145
>she isnt even really an otaku. more like a subculture lover
thats literally what otaku means

>>15810210
She isn't really a knight also, so it's stolen valor.

>>15810266
I want to see a video of a retired knight harassing Noel in the street for stolen valor filmed vertically on their phone

>>15810210
they arent since her roommate still streams. however her shota shit is completely fake. im sure she has never read any doujin and no interest in it. she started this to tune in other real otalu holomems.

>>15810250
in your country maybe. but in japan no.

>>15810145
so what if thats a normie choice. who the fuck doesnt like akira

>>15810962
most otakus aka kimootas and fujoshits dont watch stuff like akira, ghost in the shell. they only consume coomer shit or garbage like isekai, narou kei.

>>15810046
Real ones do fake ones don't

>>15810145
She was the literature/SF club girl who read novels and watched scifi anime instead of moeshit. Gundam UC, Planetes, LoGH, Zambot,... are shows she liked.

>>15810145
>Akira
>show

It's a fucking movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jafd97yJFOI

>>15810345
He means they're not natural.

>>15810343
Why not a twitter post claiming it happened with no proof?

>>15811548
shes like that. one of the rare members who willingly watch classics like those. fubuki and luna also know somewhat well about them, but others dont.

anyway she just pretends like a shotacon to cater to/appease her otaku fans

>>15811786
>film not show
knew it ofc, nigger

>He means they're not natural.
the fuck is this

>>15810145
>she isnt even really an otaku
How is she not a real otaku when she likes obscure mecha series from the 70s?
She is also an audiophile otaku.
>>15810210
>>15811786
Her tits are very real. Her roommate has been streaming since she was 13, so we know they are 100% natural.

>>15812216
>streaming since 13

She had bad parents.

>>15810210
>>15811786
I've seen NND clips of her streams back when she was an early teen. Her tits where huge back then. So definitely real.

>>15812252
I don't disagree but it wasn't uncommon at the time.

>>15810046
Yes they do, fat is less dense than water.

>>15812216
these shows >>15811548 arent really considered as otaku stuff. they are treated as "subculture" in japan. its the same shit as western old school sci-fi stuff. they, like starwars, capeshit, star trek, etc, were seen as nerdy stuff back then, but by todays standards they arent

>>15812343
>boxxy
>jessi
>applemilk
>ny*nners

Like tears in the rain, scoob.

>>15803088
This sounds absolutely awful, i like Hapan but also hate it at the same time

>>15803088
sexually assaulted as a kid isn't a pleasant memory, even it's done by cute nee-san

>>15812551
What counts as otaku stuff then? Because they are not the only shows she watches. I would say its more weird to obsess over zambot than it is to obsess over the latest seasonal anime that everyone watches.
Also how does her audiphile autism, JRPG autism, retroge autism and kendo autism not count as being an otaku?Anime and Manga otaku are not the only otaku.

>watching obscure mecha shows doesn't make you an otaku but watching super popular nomalfag stuff does
Absolute state of Noel antis.

>>15813215
Kek

>No, this person definitely doesn't like the thing they said they like, I would know since I don't know them personally and have never and will never meet them

>>15813011
>What counts as otaku stuff then?
Things that I like.

>>15810372
In Japan otaku has nothing to do with anime, unless you are an anime otaku. You can be a train otaku and never watch anime and still be an otaku.

>>15813358
Yeah so Noel is a sci-fi and audiophile otaku.

>>15813011
like i said, moeshit and shitty cookie cutter kadokawa type anime with bishonen/bishojo characters, light novel stuff, is otaku stuff. atlus games like persona series are seen as casually nerdy games but dragon quest/pokemon arent. ff games are seen as nerdy today.

people who watch zambot today are super rare even in japan. i watched all tomino shows/films except for his modern ones so can talk about it, but id say its closer to "vintage retro" stuff in the west. in japan however its not in a hipster/indie trend. you could be actually seen as "cool" without being viewed as either a cocky hipster prick or a creepy otaku when you watch zambot, ideon, uc gundam series, or other old school 80s sci-fi anime like macross, akira, megazone 23, 80s gainax stuff etc or read somewhat serious ones like planetes manga or vinland saga etc.


>kendo autism
this is shitty relativism. stop deconstructing everything into one like american sjws. it has nothing to do with being a nerd.

>>15810210
rrat

Is there any evidence that Noel just does the shotacon bit for pandering? I don't really doubt you in this case, but I would like to see proof

>>15810210
she is fat so her tits lose in value retroactively
having decent tits when you're a fat fuck doesn't count

>>15813538
Everything Noel likes has nothing to do with being an otaku according to you. Well thats awfully convenient. This is despite you admitting that some of the things she likes are rare.
>atlus games like persona series are seen as casually nerdy games but dragon quest/pokemon arent.
What about Chrono Trigger and Moon?
>i watched all tomino shows/films except for his modern ones so can talk about it, but id say its closer to "vintage retro" stuff in the west
What is your problem with Noel? You apparently even like the same stuff she does.
You also can't answer why her autistic obsession with audiophile stuff doesn't make her a nerd.
>>15813709
She isn't fat.

>>15813986
>Everything Noel likes has nothing to do with being an otaku according to you.

basically yes. she isnt an otaku. she just pretends. although you can call her a casual otaku. objectively its not so wrong but i wouldnt think like that.

>>15814245
So Rozen Maiden isn't an otaku thing and nor is 2hu?

>>15813561
She actually likes old men instead, I think there's even a clip of her admitting the shota thing is not serious.

>>15814280
Noel really fucking likes Rozen Maiden especially Suiginto. She printed so many pictures of her as a kid her mothers printer ran out of black ink, but according to that idiot that doesn't make her an otaku.
She also likes im@s.

>>15813986
>She isn't fat.

Amerimutt cope

>>15814633
Blind faggot cope.
You are being extra retarded today.

>>15814633
Are you retarded?
https://files.catbox.moe/h5pbpv.jpg

>>15814705
They are probably a Marinefag trying to cope

>>15813215
>>15813280
I love that time when noel made her power stats and it literally kamen rider style; punch power, kick power and jump power. Noel can really fit on /m/.

>>15814705
You fucking monster....
Why would you just post one?
Where the rest of them?!

>>15814772
Noel is /m/ + /jp/

>>15813986
Audiophile is more like a hobbyist. In the west its the same. Some people call themselves "pro audio nerds" "camera nerds" and so on but they have nothing to do with nerdy media like Anime/cartoons. You are just coping with semantics. What's wrong with noel being not an otaku. Everyone in hololive doesn't need to be an otaku or engage in your otaku circlejerk.

>>15814925
So Rozen Maiden and 2hu aren't otaku things? You ignored this.
>What's wrong with noel being not an otaku
Because she actually is one and you presented her as being deceitful by saying she is pretending to be one.

>>15815017
I hope he responds. If Rozen Maiden doesn't count, who in Hololive is an otaku?

>>15814925
Otaku has nothing to do with anime and manga.
What are train otaku and Reki-jo (Noel is one BTW)?

>>15814705
Le sekrit knowledge

>>15814705
M-meidos?

>>15803088
How come this is accepted, or overlooked in Japan, but in the West we'd be tarring and feathering her, and sending her to unironic jail?

>>15818552
Because Japan doesn't prosecute people for thought crimes, only real crimes. In the West its the other way round.

>>15815878
thats just about the usage. the english word "nerd" works the completely same way "otaku" does. what we are talking about is whether or not shes a nerd as the original meaning. like typical introvert bullied ones who only enjoy cartoons and comics.

>>15818552
tbf female pedos get slaps on the wrist here for that sort of thing, and just making jokes like this wouldn't garner much attention either

>>15814844
I have a link to mega archive of her softcore porn ASMR, but I'm not going to share it - newfags must suffer and lurk more

>>15818827
She is obsessed with old school mecha anime and manga.
She likes stuff like Rozen Maiden and Touhou.
She is a Reki-jo.
She is an audiophile autist.
She studied science.
She is a nerd by any reasonable standard.

>>15815017
they are otaku shit but even if thats the case i highly doubt she actually seriously played touhou games. she hasnt had any touhou skills on her streams unlike marine.

you seem to be really desperate to want her to look like a full blown otaku as "my/our girl"

as for maiden, so she barely names one old moe anime. which rather shows her casualness of anime. kim kardashian coplayed as an anime girl and uploaded it on instagram but does that make her an otaku? no

>>15819362
>hasnt had
*shown

>>15818948
Good cause I used to upload to one in the earlier days and retards started to share it on places like /v/ when Hololive was started to incline and it got taken down

>>15819362
>they are otaku shit but even if thats the case i highly doubt she actually seriously played touhou games
She has played them though. Not to the extent that Marine has but she has played them.

So zambot LoGH, Planetes etc. are normalfag shit to you but Marine's favorites Jojo, HxH and Code Geass are hardcore otaku stuff?

>you seem to be really desperate to want her to look like a full blown otaku as "my/our girl"
You seem desperate to prove that she is a complete normalfag for some reason, when she clearly isn't.

>as for maiden, so she barely names one old moe anime.
She doesn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrvuETc_vbw&lc=Ugyty4_LyPhkNXk0yyZ4AaABAg
>which rather shows her casualness of anime.
Casuals watch zambot?

Marine hasn't fucking even seen CCA but she is an otaku and Noel isn't? Get out of here.
You also regularly call Noel ugly and Marine stunningly beautiful, why would an attractive social butterfly like Marine be an otaku but withdrawn ugly girl like Noel be a normalfag?

>>15814705
sexxu

>>15820076
>So zambot LoGH, Planetes etc. are normalfag shit to you but Marine's favorites Jojo, HxH and Code Geass are hardcore otaku stuff?

whats this shitty casual argument. you do realise shonen shit is read by literally everyone in japan. jojo and hxh are pretty much in the same league as dragon ball, one piece, slum dunk, kochikame, and so on.

code geass however is clearly otaku shit. its certain that its "hardcore otaku stuff" that wouldve been featured in aniota magazines like animage many times. only otakus watch it. the introvert creepy ones in your classroom.

>Casuals watch zambot?
i already said its seen as "vintage retro" stuff in japan. zambot, ideon, xabungle, or other old anime/tokusatsu stuff like mazinger z, old ultraman, old kamen rider, etc are not otaku stuff anymore. the 70s/80s scifi anime isnt seen as otaku stuff either . i mean, MOST MODERN OTAKUS DONT WATCH THEM. i hate to say this but only CULTURALLY AWARE people watch them now. read my posts again.

also you are too normie to talk about tomino stuff and doing shitty black and white thinking. stop being so binary.

>>15818962
Those are normalfag things according to Marinefags...

>>15820804
Code Geass fucking had Pizza Hut sponsorships, you don't get more normalfag than that.

So according to you an ugly shut in girl who likes old sci-fi, Rozen Maiden, Chrono Trigger, retroge, is an audiophile autist, is a reki-jo and literature nerd is a normalfag?

>>15803088
GIWTWM

>>15810046
t. person who never saw real tits

>>15821079
They can't ever accept anyone saying anything nice about Noel. Calling her a normalfag is just the latest example of this.

>>15821079
>Code Geass fucking had Pizza Hut sponsorships,

this doesnt prove anything. since the early 00s or evangelion shock, even blatant moe anime has been used as big corps commercials. even some local governments have done it too. japan is a literal anime country in this regard.

hololive and nijisanji are too. if you go to your local combini, you inevitably see one vtuber stuff. evangelion was huge, whether good or bad. it destroyed lots of borders commercially. code geass is an anime show after that like gundam seed.

>So according to you an ugly shut in girl who likes old sci-fi, Rozen Maiden, Chrono Trigger, retroge, is an audiophile autist, is a reki-jo and literature nerd is a normalfag?

she isnt a normie, asshat. i just said she isnt an otaku. japan has the inbetween people that dont belong to either otakus or normies. while the west has only hipster pricks in the position.

>>15812552

God the number we did on Jessi Slaughter was amazing. I love to look at our handiwork sometimes and see what she has become

>>15822095
>eva
Noel likes eva as well but I guess it only counts towards being an otaku if your name is Marine.
>code geass is an anime show after that like gundam seed.
Gundam Seed is also normalfag shit.
According to you massively popular stuff like Gundam Seed and Code Geass are otaku stuff but obscure stuff like Historie is normalfag shit.
>she isnt a normie, asshat. i just said she isnt an otaku. japan has the inbetween people that dont belong to either otakus or normies.
You are still saying an ugly shut in girl with loads of autistic interests and hobbies is more normal than an attractive popular girl whose only even slightly weird interests are Sakura Wars and Touhou

>>15803088
>I want to be a little boy
mentally you are

>>15822453
>Gundam Seed is also normalfag shit.

lol... you are too casual to talk about gundam. seed is the creepy otaku shit directed by the creepy otaku ass fukuda and his creepy hardcore fujoshit partner. so seed has lots of yaoi garbage moments. there was seed vs uc war back then, but you wouldnt know it. uc stuff is the normie stuff, but normies dont know anything about uc history or lores other than amuro vs char and some famous meme moments. its similar to starwars. they only know those popular sw characters like darth vader, boba fett etc and yet buy the merchs hard like funko pop garbage.

>You are still saying an ugly shut in girl with loads of autistic interests and hobbies is more normal than an attractive popular girl whose only even slightly weird interests are Sakura Wars and Touhou

? i dont even get this shit. your problem is simple. you just cant recognise the inbetween people. they consume lots of anime/manga stuff and yet arent seen as nerds. japan has them. noel is one of them. such people dont exist in the west or are virtually gatekept and deplatformed by hipster/sjw pricks and western corrupt media.

>>15823063
>? i dont even get this shit. your problem is simple. you just cant recognise the inbetween people. they consume lots of anime/manga stuff and yet arent seen as nerds. japan has them. noel is one of them.
If Noel is an in-between person than so is Marine. You can't claim that the unpopular ugly girl is more normal than the popular attractive girl.
>such people dont exist in the west or are virtually gatekept and deplatformed by hipster/sjw pricks and western corrupt media.
They do. Only pure normalfags care what the media/sjw/hipsters say, everyone else just does what they enjoy.

>>15823295
marine is still an otaku but gradually becoming inbetween. she doesnt have any new knowledge of modern otaku stuff and is reading non otaku manga like ichi the killer, ushijima kun or typical shonen shit like dragonball again. her own game selections are actually kinda cool a non otaku way like she played subnautica, rimworld, portal etc, she still consumes ero doujin shit hard but has gradually grown out of typical nerdy ass anime stuff. she would never play modern anime games like sakura taisen or tokimemo. she didnt care about the latest tales game even though she used to be a hardcore tales fan.

> the unpopular ugly girl
the fuck is even this shit anyway. i never mentioned it. you are just talking to yourself.

>>15824222
>she doesnt have any new knowledge of modern otaku stuff
What do you count as modern otaku stuff?
You also seem to think that in order to be an otaku you have to follow seasonal anime or something because you don't count older stuff.
Is someone not a metalhead if they only listen to 80s metal instead of modern metal?
>she still consumes ero doujin shit hard
If that counts towards being an otaku then you should also count that for Noel.

Also it sounds like Marine doesn't meet you narrow definition of what an otaku is.

>the fuck is even this shit anyway. i never mentioned it. you are just talking to yourself.
Are you saying she isn't ugly? I am glad I got you to admit that.

Please, keep on going. This is highly entertaining

>>15824618
if you consume moeshit anime or doujin stuff you are just automatically seen as a creepy otaku by everyone else and you are bullied. you cant show any anime merchs in your high school or office. the second you do you are mocked by everyone and bullied. anime is becoming socially acceptable as market products but it doesnt mean your otaku personal traits and tendencies are becoming socially acceptable.

iirc noel doesnt cosume doujin at all. she mightve given it a try but thats all.

>>15825184
>you cant show any anime merchs in your high school or office. the second you do you are mocked by everyone and bullied. anime is becoming socially acceptable as market products but it doesnt mean your otaku personal traits and tendencies are becoming socially acceptable.
Noel literally printed so many pictures of Suiginto that her mother's printer ran out of ink.
>iirc noel doesnt cosume doujin at all. she mightve given it a try but thats all.
She does. She buys stuff on DLsite. A lot of her fetishes eg. corruption come from there.
Noel is one of the biggest coomers in Hololive why do you think she doesn't consume ero doujins?

>>15825422
>She does. She buys stuff on DLsite. A lot of her fetishes eg. corruption come from there.

im consistently saying she pretends like that to cater to her otaku audience and tune in to other holomems. same goes for subaru. shes nowhere near an otaku but has now watched and played many otaku leaning things. it however doesnt make her an otaku. she does just because other holomems do, especially okayu does want subaru to be an otaku and cultivate her, and she knows many of her her fans are otakus. this is the main argument.

>Noel literally printed so many pictures of Suiginto that her mother's printer ran out of ink.

like i said, paradoxically, this just exposes her entry level casualness. she only named old one moeshit anime. its fucking casual, isnt it? like some normie just watched one moe anime and is needlessly being loud about it. real otakus consume tons of moeshit shows. also she wasnt mentioning shota shit at all before her fans made the narrative.

>>15825184
Noel buys a shit ton of doujin goods, even mentioned buying doujins about herself.

Why are you talking authoritatively when you clearly haven't watched her streams ?

>people that never touched a woman in their life talking about what tits are real
This thread is hilarious

>>15823063
Gundam Seed was the number 1 selling anime DVD of all time for awhile. I don't know if it still holds that spot.

>>15826073
>im consistently saying she pretends like that to cater to her otaku audience and tune in to other holomems.
She talked about that before Hololive.
She fucking talked about her smell fetish before Hololive. Are you going to claim that she made that up as well?
>shes nowhere near an otaku but has now watched and played many otaku leaning things.
She watched and did those things before Hololive. LoGH, Gundam, Zambot, Planetes etc. are all things she liked before Hololive. She was a massive sci-fi fag before Hololive.
She used touhou characters in backgrounds before Hololive.
You don't fucking watch her and are looking for any excuse to hate her.

>and she knows many of her her fans are otakus
Her fans like the same shit she does so according to you they aren't otakus.
>like i said, paradoxically, this just exposes her entry level casualness. she only named old one moeshit anime. its fucking casual, isnt it?
No it isn't the only "moeshit" she liked
>also she wasnt mentioning shota shit at all before her fans made the narrative.
That started as a joke from Marine and she kept going along with it.

What do you think Noel gets off to then? Are you going to claim she is some pure girl all of a sudden?

You are now backpedaling and saying she is a normalfag.
Noel the ugly shut-in girl with autistic hobbies isn't an otaku but Marine who is the classic stacy is because she likes BL or something. This is what you think.

>>15812252
Her parents were poor anon

>>15813538
>>15812551
>>15810145
You're simply wrong. Otaku has literally no necessity for "moe" (you're one hell of a retard) anime or even games/anime at all.

>>15810210
how does no one on this board know what fake titties look like

>>15810145
>all the shota jokes turned her into a real shotacon

>>15826748
Her breasts are real. They both look real and her streaming history proves they are real.

>>15826146
>Noel buys a shit ton of doujin goods

then can you bring the clip here.

>even mentioned buying doujins about herself.
this is just about her fanservice. if i were a girl and a vtuber, id do too out of curiosity despite not buying any doujins. im not saying she is a seiso. given that her roommates activity, its obvious that she has big interests in sexual stuff, while she has a bit of inferiority complex of her look, you dont know about it though, but it doesnt mean she is a fujoshit or an otaku.

>Why are you talking authoritatively when you clearly haven't watched her streams ?

i havent watched all her streams because ive watched many others too. iirc she has never actually shown us her actual otaku knowledge or interest. at most shes a casual otaku. shes a subaru tier person who doesnt really have a strong hate boner for otaku stuff, is fine with it. prefers "subculture/inbetween" stuff to otaku stuff. nothing more or less.

>>15803088
dumbass shota

>>15812252
>>15826611
>parents
Parent.

>>15826780
She's said similar, no longer being bullied by them helps too.

>>15826705
you are misreading some shit. okayu recommended golden kamuy to subaru for instance, but i know it.

>>15826819
>iirc she has never actually shown us her actual otaku knowledge or interest.
Yeah LoGH, Zambot, Planetes, Historie, Rozen Maiden, audiophile autism, being a rek-jo etc. those are all normalfag things.

>>15812785
Depends on the kid. Depends on the assaulter. I personally have fond memories of fingering my older cousin when she'd babysit me as a child. Someone else might be scarred for life by having been molested by a fat, nearsighted middle schooler at such a young age. It just depends.

>>15818948
No you don't, because that sort of thing doesn't exist.

>>15826819
>i havent watched all her streams because ive watched many others too.
So you admit you don't watch her?

>>15818948
>floch
You know what? I'm fine with that reasoning.
Anyway what do you expect from snk final season part 2?

>>15826146
doujin doesn't just mean porn

>>15826790
I know, I'm agreeing with you. I was saying that the guy I was replying to doesn't know what fake tits look like, or more accurately doesn't know what real ones look like

>>15826819
>bring the clip here
Hahaha, fuck off clipfag.
Her blomaga discussing the booth discusses her expenses on doujin goods.

>i havent watched all her streams because ive watched many others too
Learn to speak English retard.
Go watch get Jujutsu Kaisen watchalongs where she starts sperging about power levels, hell any of her myriad of streams where she comes of with elaborate fantasies about powerscaling the holo universe.

>>15818962
Don't forget Star Wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcablyn9yg

>>15827168
She reads ero-doujins and ero-manga

how was this woman ever allowed near a school looking like this?

>>15803088
Do women with a shota fetish just want to be mating pressed? Every example of a shotacon or actual female predator I see is always a women in her late twenties to thirties with no children.

>>15827131
are you saying only super hardcore noel fans who watch ALL her streams and collabs are ENTITLED to talk about her? im sure 99% of vtuber fans dont do like that. elitism like that is out of place. also i highly doubt you do.

also can you bring the clip. im super fluent in japanese so cant be wrong about it.

>>15827224
then bring the original jp stream here.

>>15827224
This guy is a lost cause.
Apparently LoGH, Zambot etc and Planetes, Historie etc. are normalfag stuff but Gundam Seed is only liked by hardcore otaku.

He also thinks train otaku, reki-jo etc. aren't otaku because otaku can only be anime otaku.

>>15826819
>while she has a bit of inferiority complex of her look
Calling her ugly again...

>>15827224
>sperging about power levels, >powerscaling the holo universe.
I wish noel do a stream of her making hololive power level tier and have her audience participate.

>>15827527
its her own comment. you would never be able to find it out. you must be an amerimmutt or some americanised retard given that this level of black and white thinking.

>>15827135
>Anyway what do you expect from snk final season part 2?
Well, I've read the manga, and I honestly would buy tickets to Japan just to take a huge rancid shit in Isayama's onsen. The last 3 chapters are Game of Thrones tier terrible. Isayama saying that he was disappointed by the ending of GoT and then making that abomination of an ending is the worst hypocrisy I've ever seen. There is ONE panel in the final chapter that doesn't suck donkey balls. I swear, it's like he wanted to piss off as many fans as possible, then he realized that the small minority of the most ardent fans still enjoyed this shit that feels like it was written by a sentient bag of cocaine, and then he released 8 additional pages to piss off even those fans. The plot has more holes than swiss cheese, all characters are either ruined or forgotten, all previous events are meaningless, the entire story is now meaningless. Some pages, like the incel Eren, handwriting sniffing, and "Thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sake" literally feel like an abridged version, and I haven't even mentioned plot twists that ruin the entire story.
I refuse to believe that the same man who made absolute kino moments (including chapters 121 and 131, which anime-onlies are yet to see) has also made this. Either Isayama has brain cancer or his editor was threatening him with a gun, I completely unironically don't see other reasons why he would make that ending.

>>15827077
From that archive: https://i.imgur.com/OHvOy46.jpg

>>15827361
its translated clip but since you know nip you can ignore the subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzv7unq6rzI
Also she mentioned shota in that clip which is from 2020 LONG before the shota meme.

>>15827628
Nah fuck you, you goddamned cunt. You don't get to call her an ugly loser and then claim she is a fake normalfag at the same time.
I also want you to tell me what kind of porn she gets off to, since according to you she doesn't read doujins.

>>15827361
>are you saying only super hardcore noel fans who watch ALL her streams and collabs are ENTITLED to talk about her?
You don't watch her at all. You are an anti.

>>15827652
>posts her old ones
In the latest stream she talks about getting chubby a bit and that it bothers her

>>15827659
all i see is, as i said, a subaru tier casual person awkwardly talking about otaku stuff. also she was never saying she actually reads or buys doujin shit. that retard who said she buys many doujins is a liar.

>>15827829
Fuck off, you don't even watch her.
What porn does she get off to? You need to answer that question.
Also why are you still insisting that fucking Zambot is normalfag stuff?

>>15827823
nta, and I like chubsters, but I've seen the early 2020 pics of her at her heaviest and she doesn't carry fat well. She's short and it goes to the midsection and arms immediately. Her medium thicc bodytype will be hard af to maintain as she gets older. Eventually, she'll give up.

>>15813538
>like i said, moeshit and shitty cookie cutter kadokawa type anime with bishonen/bishojo characters, light novel stuff, is otaku stuff. atlus games like persona series are seen as casually nerdy games but dragon quest/pokemon arent. ff games are seen as nerdy today.
your /a/utism is leaking, anon. "otaku" existed before the modern moe machine did and is a catchall for an obsession to something, there's numerous different types - train otaku, military otaku, mecha otaku, idol otaku, etc.

>>15827759
the fuck are you even talking about. get your shit together before sperging out.

>>15827816
>are you saying only super hardcore noel fans who watch ALL her streams and collabs are ENTITLED to talk about her?
You don't watch her at all. You are an anti.

amerimutt eop autism. つーか、お前日本語も一切できねーんだろどうせw 妄想募らせると、どう言う結末を迎えるかのいい例だわ

>>15827964
いやー、日本語できない連中にそんなこと言われてもなあw
まあ、このクソ板のレベルは知ってるけど、それはともかくとして、ここぞって時ですら議論すら出来ないんじゃ話にならないわな

>>15827946
All she has to do is work out a bit and she'd be fine but clearly she either stopped because of 'rona or got too lazy

this thread is my favorite kind of autism, I wish more bait threads ended up this way

>>15827944
ここまで偏屈なファンは5ちゃんの安置すれとかゴミまとめサイトでもなかなかいねーわ

まあ、知ってたことだけど、最後は結局、暴言吐いて終了するしかないって、、ちょっと終わりすぎだな

>>15827968
>つーか、お前日本語も一切できねーんだろどうせw 妄想募らせると、どう言う結末を迎えるかのいい例だわ
間違い・お前はノエルの配信見てない

>>15827652
I bet the real ending was eren isn't a good guy all along and everyone but mikasa died on the final battle.
But isayama got spooked by his editor and when they realized most of readers hate the chapter, they release the extra pages. Because the extra pages would made sense if eren is actually a bad guy, but he's right that the cycle of hatred can't be stopped.
Anyway, once japan lift the travel restriction.
I would go to japan too, rape shigure ui and then shit on isayama's onsen.

>>15828109
ゴミみたいな日本語でそんなこと言われても、、、w
だから直接その配信アーカイブここに持って来いってw 出来ないんだろ? じゃあお前のキチガイじみた妄想って話で終了になるしかない

>>15828213
俺はノエルの配信見たい
俺はノエル大好き
お前はノエルの配信見てない
お前はノエル嫌い
これは事実

>>15810046
You are a virgin or a roastie with flat tits

>>15828384
語彙力なさ杉だろww
このゴミみたいな語彙力で日本語配信見れる訳ないんだけど、こいつの頭の中では全部日本語理解して見てることになってるんだろうなw

つーか、ここにいる奴ら全員に共通してるのが、なんとかしてノエルを「俺たちキモオタを完全理解してくれるオタク女」にさせたいとか言う妄想なんだけど、これは日本だとぜんぜん見ないキモオタ願望だな。率直にいって日本のキモオタよりキモイわ。キチガイじみた独占欲、自己愛っつーか。アメ豚ランドでフェミとかSJWが跋扈するのも無理もないのかなとほんの少しだけ思えなくもない。

>>15828049
Too hard. As long as her tits are fat, she can stay home and get fatter and richer. 'Noel' will always stay the same size.

>>15828589
does she make more money as noel or her roommate tho?

>>15828565
>語彙力なさ杉だろww
いや、俺の文法はクソ

Fuck it my grammar is so shitty I am not going to continue to embarrass myself further but I can understand her.
Noel likes LoGH, UC Gundam, Zambot Planetes etc. and other media I like, she plays games I like, I don't give a shit about doujins so I don't care if she likes them or not. If this doesn't make her an otaku according then so be it, but she doesn't present herself as one either, her playing along with the shotacon joke is not her pretending to fit your definition of an otaku.
I don't get what your problem with her is Do you want her to talk about moe anime?

>>15828689
She lived in huge apartment, have a car and steady flow of pigbanks. She could just retire when she hit the wall.
I genuinely think that noel join hololive to find friends.

>>15828963
Oh and before you start saying she doesn't like logh etc. skip to around 1 hour 17 minutes
https://youtu.be/BZnzvVaAgXg

>>15828963
もっと日本語勉強しないとだめだわ。
まあ、ちょっと反省してるようだから、まだ見込みはなくもないだろうけど、こんな底辺中の底辺のクソ板に出入りしてるようじゃ駄目だな。例えばこの板が全部日本語で、君が全部日本語で投稿するってなら、それはもう凄い意味があるけどね。俺がやってるのはそれの英語版だから、既に英語結構知ってるとは言え、多少意味がある。ただ、最近もう面倒くさくなってきたから、俺もいい加減止めるけど。この板の妄想レベルが酷過ぎるってのもある。まあ、とにかく、俺みたいに、そういう風に毎日、外国語使っていかないと、永久に外国語は覚えられないよ。

別に日本のノエルファンはノエルのことはオタクともなんとも思ってない。っていうか、そんなこと全く気にしてない。ただ、オタクネタが出てきたら出てきたで、盛り上がるってだけ。別にパンピー(normie)ネタにも全員対応できる。この板で変なのはそういう柔軟性が全くないってところだな。別にそんなことどうだっていいだろ?
俺が嫌だったのは、そういうオタク的な枠組みに無理やりノエルを嵌め込もうとするその行為。なんでそんなことしたがるのか、よく分からん。これは日本だと本当に見ない傾向。

独占欲は出しちゃいけないな。推し(oshi)に入れ込むまでは良いけど、「彼女は俺の全てをわかってる。いや、むしろ俺の下僕まである。」みたいな独占欲出しちゃだめ。それやると、もうキモオタ超えて、ただの精神障害者でしかない。

>>15829645
>もっと日本語勉強しないとだめだわ。
はい

>この板の妄想レベルが酷過ぎるってのもある
これは /v/ と nu-/a/. (クソ板)

>まあ、とにかく、俺みたいに、そういう風に毎日、外国語使っていかないと、永久に外国語は覚えられないよ。
2ch, 良い?

>別に日本のノエルファンはノエルのことはオタクともなんとも思ってない。
If a western women likes anything older than 20 years they are considered very nerdy. Especially sci-fi stuff. So our standards are different. Go look at EN vtubers how many (even the males) even know what LoGH is?
>ただ、オタクネタが出てきたら出てきたで、盛り上がるってだけ。
They like talking about anime and manga and her interests in general (kendo especially)
They also wouldn't shut up about when she aced the prefecture quiz. They like those sorts of things.
The shotacon thing shouldn't count because its a joke. Even if you don't watch her you should get that its a joke she named her pokemon ショタロー its obviously a joke.

>俺が嫌だったのは、そういうオタク的な枠組みに無理やりノエルを嵌め込もうとするその行為
Because she is weird and I like that.
She isn't a normalfag and saying she isn't an otaku basically implies that she is a normalfag here. (Again different standards)