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Okay, a few thoughts I've been having today on a very controversial figure in HololiveEn.
I don't know how any of these Kiara Antis here can know anything about her (irl) backstory and not understand her situation and be empathetic to her. If you were to ever do research on her past (which I don't really want to necessarily promote out of respect for her) she had a rough time before she found Hololive. One of her big drives in life was her goal to become an idol. It is well-known pretty much everywhere that the Japanese/Korean idol industry is absolutely vicious, manipulative and deceitful and it makes Hollywood look like a charity. If anyone has seen the forbidden wrestling video, it is very hard to watch. She had been lied to and tricked basically into getting sexually assaulted on camera. This is roughly analogous to much of the time she spent trying to find gigs and auditions, a lot of abuse and manipulation, not uncommon for women trying to make it in pretty much any facet of the entertainment industry.
Even though her goal never quite panned out, I have a lot of respect for her because she had not only a dream, but the determination and the hard work to achieve it, which is very admirable and harder to find in people as the years pass.
So what I'm getting at with this is that sometimes her behavior is largely misinterpreted by the Antis here who aren't just straight shitposting.
People complain that she numberfags a lot - which I have yet to notice, but even if true that is understandable given her past. She finally has a good-paying, stable job that she doesn't have to be ashamed of and she has a means of expressing herself to more people than she could have realistically hoped for going into her idol gigs. She finally has a job that is stable, with a stable salary and also commissions from merch and superchats to reward her for going above and beyond. She works hard and takes pride in what she does and her numbers reinforce that for her.
People complain about how much she does the Takamori shipping on streams but the problem is exaggerated. It's entirely a bit she does because it's a funny play on the two characters and the RP/Lore stuff isn't supposed to be completely ignored after debut. Only genuine autists think she has some sort of legitimate attachment issue.
Kiara is a very hard worker and that is pretty easy to see if you just look at her channel. She takes good care of her superchatters and when glancing through her page and comparing with the others, she pretty much has everyone else gapped in terms of content hours by a not-insignificant amount. Not to say the others don't work hard or aren't as good, but it's not fair to just call her a self-centered numberfag when she puts the most time into her streams. Plus this Holotalk stuff, regardless if it's her idea or her choice to host them or not, does a good service to other Holo members and her collab efforts in general seem to be above-average.
I am very happy that Kiara seems to have found a comfortable position and I wish her all the luck in her career, even if she should ever leave Hololive. I respect her hard work after some of the things that she's experienced which would normally kill motivation for other people.
TL;DR - fuck kiara antis

>> No.1573664

>>1573579
>fuck Kiara antis

Fuck you too anon

FUCK YOUR CHICKEN

>> No.1573684

Just let it go anon, you're right but you'll never be able to sway the heart of people who want to hate. Show support to your oshi and drown out the negative comments.

>> No.1573718

>>1573684
>Show support to your oshi and drown out the negative comments.
I'm trying to, that's why i wasted a bunch of time typing a wall of text that's impossible to read because i can't into formatting

>> No.1573755

>>1573579
>forbidden wrestling video
What?

>> No.1573794

>>1573579
Based, but you couldn't have just added this to one of the hundred Kiara threads still up?

>> No.1573806

>>1573718
Well, I support your supporting in any case. But I think it'd be better if you channeled this energy and wrote a positive message to Kiara via Maro or something.

>> No.1573812

>>1573579
To me, Kiara is about "trying again". No matter what, she gets up and tries again. I will try again to read this post even if it's 1,000 pages long because it seems like you were working hard to say nice things about Kiara—an admirable endeavor

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>>1573579
yeah not reading your blogpost

>> No.1573879

>>1573806
gotta pump the numbers
>>1573812
thanks, sorry i did orange oshi a disservice by not spacing correctly

>> No.1573903

>>1573579
based, best girl

>> No.1573912

we're not empathetic towards 10 shit tier threads with the same comment anon

>> No.1573957

>>1573579
Not surprising when you see how islamic culture treats violated women. They try to hide it but it always boils down to that.

>> No.1573975

>>1573755
Plug suit wrestling

>> No.1573980

>>1573755
Nevermind, looked it up. The world is fucked up.

>> No.1574100 [DELETED] 

>>1573579
But she's a massive SJW though
https://archive.is/u0Y0R
https://archive.is/cY0KI
https://archive.is/F23gv
https://archive.is/hK6Wc
https://archive.is/bu8R2
https://archive.is/YZcJI
https://archive.is/HMjr6
https://archive.is/HZTug
https://archive.is/2pUP9
https://archive.is/yBWn1
https://archive.is/C5ju9
https://archive.is/STtWh
https://archive.is/fHynU
https://archive.is/LTzVM

>> No.1574145 [DELETED] 

>>1573579
Why kfp always try to paint her as saint victim?
It's pathetic

>> No.1574155

>>1573579
>she puts the most time into her streams
My oshi streams more hours a week than her you lying cunt
Not responding to the roommate shit because I don't fancy a ban but needless to say it's irrelevant to the character
Stop making a million threads about her even if you want to be her white knight against the "antis"

>> No.1574181

>>1574100
>has principles
>on the right side of history
love that chicken

>> No.1574188 [DELETED] 

>>1574100
>she has milquetoast liberal politics so that makes it okay that she's been sexually exploited by the japanese idol industry

>> No.1574201
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1574201

>>1573579
>he spent around 10 minutes of his life typing this out.
Hope she sees this bro.

>> No.1574222

>>1574100
If you think this stuff is SJW you haven't seen actual SJWs
This opinion is literally shared by 90% of euros

>> No.1574223

>>1574100
>But she's a massive SJW though
literally who fucking cares?
>woman is a liberal
WOOOOOOOOOOOO NEVER HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE

>> No.1574235

>>1574181
>KFPfag unironically believe this

>> No.1574274

>>1574201
i must defend my queen no matter the costs
my mind is my sword and my keyboard the shield

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>>1574235

>> No.1574384

>>1574155
>My oshi streams more hours a week than her you lying cunt
Talking exclusively EN and I didn't do any hard maths I just eyeballed it. Kiara definitely goes hard on those 5+ hour streams more so than everyone else.

>> No.1574410

>>1573579
western girls shouldn't go to shithole countries.

>> No.1574498

>>1574100
Unironically what a based woman. She's on the right side of history and would be an excellent wife and friend.

>> No.1574575

>>1573579
Now I'm not an anti by any means I mostly just ignore her but I think this gets to why I don't like her.
I don't view being an idol as a worthwhile goal (I'm into Vtubers for the entertainment side of things) and because of that all the effort she puts in is irrelevant because it's not worth the effort. To me it just comes across as her trying to hard for something that really should be more chill and because of that her getting aggressive with the other talent rubs me the wrong way.
If she decided to put that time and energy into a full-blown Haachama style lore series (although it doesn't need to be anywhere near that graphic) I would respect that a lot more and I think its a shame that someone can be so driven to a job that I personally feel is better suited to dicking around with chat and friends.

>> No.1574594

>>1574384
Imagine making 5+ hours streams and still having the least amount of subs lmao

>> No.1574631

>>1574594
who's the one numberfagging again?

>> No.1574632

>>1574384
Kiara has the longest streams but Ame streams the most times per week (not this past week though because moving shit). It's between them.

>> No.1574636
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1574636

>>1574100
>but.. ALL women are liberal!
>actually, that's based! she speaks her mind!!
>who cares!
the KFP spin on these is hilarious

>> No.1574647

My conclusion is Kiarafags are trannies. Her design, her personality, her political views, everything around her would appeal to a mentally ill person filled with hormones. Cased closed.

>> No.1574649

>>1574100
She's a white European woman, SJW is their default setting.

>> No.1574679

>>1574636
>actually, that's based! she speaks her mind!!
But but for real.
Cope and storm another government building, /pol/ retards.

>> No.1574696

>>1574498
Unironically progressive white women don't make good mothers.

>> No.1574701

>>1574498
Trump is actually a good president
Trust the plan
2 more weeks
No 2 more weeks after that.
Look at the stock price of gamestop.
No I won't take my meds.

>> No.1574727

>>1574679
>but-but for real!
you couldn't even help but type out your stutter kek

>> No.1574731

>>1574636
What's there to spin? She's right.

>> No.1574752

>>1574636
You really have no idea how many people unironically hold these opinions on this site do you
It's just that most people don't feel a need to bring this up

>> No.1574761

>>1574636
I wont defend her. If there is something i don't like about her is her SJW shit, but she is a white European woman so it comes with the territory, i just try to ignore it.

>> No.1574770

>>1574384
>Talking exclusively EN
Go back to your containment thread then globalfag
We don't need this entire board made up of shit threads from you newfag retards who think there are only 5 v-tubers in the world

>> No.1574792

>>1574631
>Kiara streams more than your oshi!!
KFP: based, Kiara number 1

>STILL HAS THE LEAST SUBS LMAO
KFP: Stop numberfagging reee

Fuck you and your chicken.

This is why no one likes her or her fanbase

>> No.1574815

>>1574792
Understand that there's a difference between numberfagging content hours vs. subs, please...

>> No.1574816

Holy motherfucking damn. Fucktards, is this KFP newfag central or some shit?

>> No.1574828

>>1574647
trannies tend to like mori or gura (the latter since they're mostly zoomers)

>> No.1574851

How can we convince Kiara to not be an SJW anymore. You don't have to be a polfag to dislike SJWs. I don't like Trump or SJWs.

>> No.1574856

>>1574828
i.e. painted nails pic

>> No.1574864

Holy shit, why are you faggots so obssessed with this girl? Why do you have to make 5 threads about her every fucking day? Can't you faggots just make replies in one thread about her instead of making a dozen threads? I don't even give a shit if you hate or love her, just fucking stop.

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1574865

>>1573579
I ain't reading all that, I'm glad for you tho or sorry that happened

>> No.1574888

>>1574696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmT_cv2hBaU
Suck my dick stormfaggot

>> No.1574902

>>1574100
I really dislike her SJW side, i hope she never brings it up on stream because it would make me lose all interest on her in a second. I don't like Trump, i think he's a retard but she is way too much into SJW shit.

>> No.1574964

>>1574888
>stormfaggot
Bitch im not even white and i also think Trump is a retard. That doesn't mean your average white progressive women isn't a major schizo.

>> No.1574975

>>1574902
Every holo is smart enough to avoid politics/religion on stream + main accounts. Except I could see Aqua accidentally getting roped into a New Age cult and getting graduated for promoting it on stream.

>> No.1574989

>>1574902
why are you people so hung up on this SJW shit? yeah it's cringe but are you seriously not desensitized to it yet? this is just how women operate until you become a chad and dick her into voting trump.

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1575059

>>1574902
>>1574888
>>1574989
>>1574851
ITT KFP damage-control squad trying to figure out which cope they're gonna go with

>> No.1575063

>>1574989
she's not american retard

>> No.1575069

I'm a commie and Kiara is my oshi
fight me

>> No.1575078

>>1574989
I dom't mind Kiara herself, but I am completely out of patience with the SJW thing. We saw how out of hand it got with the firey but mostly peaceful protests, and I'm in no mood to humor it any longer.

>> No.1575083

>>1574989
I just said i think Trumo is a retard, i don't want a Trump voting woman. Unless she has big titties then its ok.

>> No.1575137

>>1574989
>yeah it's cringe but are you seriously not desensitized to it yet?
Given that commies almost destroyed the country i was born in, in the 90s, ill never be over it. My whole family hates commies, hispanics in general hate commies big time.

>> No.1575165

>>1575069
keyed

>> No.1575176

>>1575137
I'm a communist spic
Nunca seras blanco

>> No.1575192

>>1575069
Blacked by BBC

>> No.1575203

>>1575176
basado

>> No.1575211

>>1575192
Your mother that is

>> No.1575223 [DELETED] 

i'm the black guy in that pic AMA

>> No.1575237

>>1574851
How are you even going to begin to do this when she doesn't bring it up on stream at all

>> No.1575241
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1575241

I only came here to post this image

>> No.1575248

>>1575137
It seems like a lot of Antis ITT are shocked to learn that most women are liberal leaning.

>> No.1575251

>>1575223
How does it feel that touching a woman makes /pol/ seethe

>> No.1575261

>>1575176
>nunca seras blanco
Quien dijo que quiero ser blanco? Eres un schizo como todo comunista.

>> No.1575276

>>1575223
What her teeth smells like?

>> No.1575288

>>1575192
Arranging for anon to be filmed while being destroyed by BBC!

>> No.1575310

>>1575248
>Antis
Take your meds, kfp

>> No.1575351

>>1574636
All the holoens are liberal or sympathetic towards liberalism

>> No.1575364

My only opinions on Kiara is that her voice makes it hard to watch her content and that her fans & antis need to cool it on the posting. Why are there so many threads for 5 vtubers?

>> No.1575398

>>1573579
tl;dr

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1575449

>>1573579
Good thread OP fun posting asides she doesn't deserve true hate

>> No.1575453

>>1573579
I can't believe this has become a copypasta

>> No.1575463

>>1573579
I wonder how many people in this board just shitpost about the chicken for the lulz vs. legitimately, unironically seethe at her success. I would have guessed most fall into the former.

>> No.1575471

>>1575449
She's like an anti-Geisha. Could you imagine trying to have fun with her IRL? No thanks.

>> No.1575498

>>1575463
i just shitpost to play both sides

her design is pretty (nice face/body/hair, cringe outfit) and her streams are alright

>> No.1575509
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1575509

>>1574100
>trump is such a fucking idiot, i used to watch and read everything about him because it was highly entertaining, but now i am just sick of his comedy routine. honestly just fuck off
based to be quite honest

>> No.1575546

>>1574701
I made a couple six figures from Gamestop, so I love Biden now.

>> No.1575554

>>1574100
Thanks, I hate it. Guess I'm an anti now.

>>1574989
They corrupt and cancel shit that I like, so I will vote against them with my dollars every time on principle.

>> No.1575568

>>1575509
She was shitting on Trump years before that post too. She did the correct thing: Hate the right-wing, watch them act like monkeys for entertainment, and then get tired of their shit once they started to actually destroy the world.

>> No.1575600

>>1575471
She's anti geisha? That make no sense, she wants to be an idol and that shit is like one hundred times scummier.

>> No.1575601

>>1575351
Not all. Certainly not pekor

>> No.1575617
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1575617

>>1575568
>Hate the right-wing
Trump is a neo liberal nigger faggot jew lover though

>> No.1575634

>>1575509
cringe desu, Trump was entertaining trough all his mandate, Biden is following his policies including immigration but he is boring. Obama was also charismatic even when he had almost the same policies than Trump. The only substatian difference was how taxation was handled. Hating conservatives/liberals is not a personality.

>> No.1575637

>>1575601
>ens

>> No.1575641

>>1575546
That makes literally no sense. You know the Biden administration bailed out the hedge fund, right?

>> No.1575647

>>1574100
I don't know how to feel, i think Trump is a complete idiot, but i also don't like SJWs. It might be time to unsubscribe. Shit sucks.

>> No.1575650

>>1575059
At least KFP are reasonable when they defend Kiara. One hint of Aqua or Korone in Pekora threads and all hell breaks loose.

>> No.1575671

>>1575600
Then she should try it.
>implying holos aren't literally eGeishas
>geishas are scummy
lol@ur.ignorance

>> No.1575697

>>1574100
>cancel [internet personality] for holding these political views

Isn't this just being an SJW in the inverse?

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1575707

>>1575617
>It wasn't REAL right wing

>> No.1575713

>>1575351
Maybe not the all JP ones, but certainly the EN ones and the onea who lived in the west like Coco.

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1575719

>>1575650
>KFP are reasonable when they defend Kiara

>> No.1575725

>>1575707
Who are you quoting?

>> No.1575737

>>1575707
>posting a literal fed

>> No.1575759

>>1575601
Yeah I don't speak about holojps because their politics is its own thing. I'd bet all of holoid and holoen are anti-trumpers though.

>> No.1575763

>>1575647
You already know politics are going to slip from her mouth eventually, and she'll start a flame war, then halfway through she'll realize she's sabotaging her fanbase and demand it stops.

>> No.1575764

most of the holos are literally neets who probably don't vote and barely think about politics

>> No.1575785

>>1575697
Yes, which is good
It's like censoring the censorship

>> No.1575787

>>1575617
>>1575707
The centrists are the real problem! Trust me a youtuber told me so, [failed 19th century political theory which blatantly disregards human rights] is the way of the future!

>> No.1575789

>>1574100
It's like a big reason why people hate Kiara is because of her activities outside of Hololive. Now I know why the Japanese and Taiwanese gravitate towards Aqua a lot more than Pekora.

>> No.1575800

>>1575764
>holos are literally neets
They are literally gainfully employed

>> No.1575802

>>1575697
SJWs have the right idea, they took over with their cancelling and their narratives. You be an idiot to not push to cancel your opposition. I hate SJWs but they aren't retards, they played the narrative game and won big time.

>> No.1575813

Hey guys thanks for keeping the Kiara schizo shitposting in one thread for once

>> No.1575836

>>1575697
Well, we're int

>> No.1575839

>>1575787
>a youtuber told me so
Whats the account name he sounds like a pretty cool guy?

>> No.1575842

>>1575713
https://streamable.com/jgzmgh

>> No.1575846

>>1575719
Aren't they? Nobody's calling anybody a shitter or eop here. But raise a question about Kiara in Pekora's thread, and you all act like retards losing their heads.

>> No.1575873

>>1575764
EN holos are western, Its a pretty safe bet to assume a western woman is a progressive by default, that goes double for a white woman. White women are like hyper progressive, they would choose being woke over their own family.

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>>1575650

>> No.1575908

>>1575846
>ctrl+f "EOP"
Hmmm.

>> No.1575941

>>1575873
white women voted 55-45 for trump, and 40% of people don't vote at all, that second number is probably higher among autistic shutin weeaboos

>> No.1575942

>>1575904
Why does this matter, I've been to Singapore and those virgins act like they're not part of SEA.

>> No.1575983 [DELETED] 

>>1575873
>they would choose being woke over their own family.
Hence why Hololive got so popular. But SJWs did as SJWs do, bypass the gatekeeping and infest. Won't be long before "new" rules are written, again.

>> No.1575985

>>1575764
only the japanese holos

>> No.1576015

>>1575764
neets are the most likely to be obsessed with politics
>>1575941
yeah you can't assume all women are anti-trump but looking at the wider demographics (young, non-religious, cosmopolitan) it becomes highly unlikely that any of them are not lib

>> No.1576029

>>1575983
Kiara knows how idol culture works, she's not going to push for immersion-breaking rules

>> No.1576033

>>1575908
Most of it is from the word "people".

>> No.1576036 [DELETED] 

>>1575759
Most of the girls around me in the Northeast are basically just Gura but less autistic. They say they would not even consider dating a Republican.

>> No.1576069

>>1575904
this is outdated, needs
>mods
>/pol/
>/qa/
>trannies
>other KFP
>jealous stacys

>> No.1576073

>>1576015
you're still reducing it to "trump good" vs "trump bad", most young people don't vote at all, it's just the vocal minorities who get all the attention

>> No.1576121

>>1575641
More importantly, his stimulus cheques lead to a flood of dumb money (aka "retail investors") onto the stock market. Also, hedge funds are tiny players market wise, with returns that are historically lower than "normal" investment firms. Hedging is a perfectly valid financial instrument that politicians tell you to hate because brainlets get scared of financial terms and think that stock price goes down = oh noes my precious gamestop going out of business
>>1575546
Same! I sold my tesla shares near the peak, thanks Biden, and thanks Reddit :)

>> No.1576267

>>1576073
You don't nees to like Trump to think SJWs are retards. Anyway I'm pretty sure every holo EN is a progressive, with progressive ideals, i would be surprised to see otherwise.

>> No.1576301

>>1576267
Ina might not be? Maybe?

>> No.1576306

I don’t give a shit about her past, 90% of Antis don’t care. We don’t like her personality, her voice, her songs, her bogus and boring Yuri baiting, and her unhealthy obsession with being the loudest person in the room at a times.

Literally everything I listed is stuff normal people don’t like about other normal people. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not liking a personality. It’s the same as disliking and actor/actress or singer.

You don’t need to know them on a personal level to know that you’re not interested in their products or any of the other garbage they put out.

And this kind of novel length copium from her fans and the 15 daily threads about her also contribute to the hate.

>> No.1576316

>>1575647
Ehhh it's been 6 months already, if one of them was going to say something dumb on twitter they would have already

>> No.1576321

>>1576073
That's true. None of them voted most likely. Though I haven't met many people who were neutral. Even the nonvoters are crazy nowadays. A good many people thought Biden was too far to the right lol.

>> No.1576363

>>1576306
>her bogus and boring Yuri baiting, and her unhealthy obsession with being the loudest person in the room at a times.
So you don't like Marine, okay.

>> No.1576365

>>1576306
>I don’t give a shit about her past, 90% of Antis don’t care.
This would be valid if she would literally stop talking about it or "current events" that are "not related to hololive."

>> No.1576398

>>1576321
he would be considered center-right in the rest of the developed world, yes.

>> No.1576408 [DELETED] 

>>1576321
>A good many people thought Biden was too far to the right lol.
yeah no shit, he opposes medicare for all, supported the iraq war, and wrote the bill that deregulated the credit card companies

i voted for howie hawkins

>> No.1576428

>>1575839
Idk it's some cat video channel, but if you read the subliminal messages and hold your breath for long enough, Mao starts making sense

>> No.1576447

>>1573664
lol

>> No.1576450

>>1576398
No you stupid commie he would be considered a left wing liberal in any country in Europe.

>> No.1576455

>>1576363
Okay faggot try harder, Marines entire schtick is being a thirsty horn dog for anything that walks.

>> No.1576459

>>1576301
Every art school student, and the arts field, is by definition liberal.

>> No.1576471

>>1576363
I love Marine, and I love Kiara. I also love Ollie. What the fuck is wrong with me

>> No.1576488

>>1573755
i'd get banned if i post it here, just look it up anon, funny shit

>> No.1576492
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1576492

>ITT KFP infight over whether their oshi being an SJW is a bad thing

>> No.1576515

>>1576492
listen, we're just letting off steam after the clusterfuck that was a couple days ago

>> No.1576524

>>1576455
Because being a noisy horndog is so integral to her character outside of zatsudans. Fuck off, faggot. Just admit you don't like her for things outside of Hololive, you'll get out of your basement and get a girlfriend if you do.

>> No.1576531

>>1575789
elaborate on this, anon?

>> No.1576548

>>1576471
Marine and Ollie are nothing like Kiara tho, each of them have a distinct way of going about their Yuri bait.

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>>1574100

Finally a failed-artist-turned-cult-leader that Austria can be proud of

>> No.1576567

>>1576524
>>1576365

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>>1574274
>queen

>> No.1576585

>>1576563
based sheep

>> No.1576627

>>1574384
ever heard of "quality over quantity"?

>> No.1576633

>>1576567
Level with me here anon: why keep listening to somebody you hate with your entire being? Am I missing something here, or are you just utterly autistic?

>> No.1576642

>>1576408
>he opposes medicare for all
He doesn't oppose it. He is smarter than Bernie who never shuts about socializing medicine. Biden himself is agnostic but would most likely support it if the rest of the Democratic party was for it.
>supported the iraq war
so? How many left wing European liberals that Biden is supposedly far to the right of also supported it?
>wrote the bill that deregulated the credit card companies
I don't know what you're referring to but I'm generally opposed to bad financial regulations that lead to stagnating profits and investment

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>>1576627
Kiara has both.

>> No.1576653

>>1576450
Look at any progressive political party in Western Europe and tell me Biden would fit in there.

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>>1575059
based nousagiposter

>> No.1576656

>>1576524
This is the most pathetic copium I’ve ever seen, stfu KFP tard. There’s nothing wrong with sucking dick to move up in the world and your oshii shouldn’t be shamed for being a whore. You legit can’t breath in the direction of someone who has legitimate criticism of your weekly goddess because you don’t agree that anyone can’t like her.

>> No.1576660

>>1576633
She collabs with my oshi

>> No.1576672

>>1576627
that simply does not apply to streams unless you are severely burned out which does not apply to kiara.

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>>1576069
>other KFPs
what

>> No.1576707

>>1576633
I don't. I unsubbed.

>> No.1576718

Why do KFPs have such a hard time accepting ANY criticism about Kiara? No person is perfect but KFPs seem to go absolute sperg if you even suggest that she did something wrong. It's like they took a leaf from her SJW playbook.

>> No.1576741

>>1576653
>progressive
This has become a meme term for a bunch of new left types. The real liberal parties in Europe with majority support aren't that different from mainstream Dems in America.

>> No.1576751

>>1576689
KFP claims that there's several 'rouge KFP' that falseflag as antis for some convoluted reason i still don't really understand

>> No.1576752

>>1576652
>>1576672
thanks for the (you)s, cope a bit more EOPs

>> No.1576754

>>1576718
Kfp’s are the epitome of being unable to accept people have legitimate criticisms about the object of their never to be reciprocated affection

>> No.1576781

>>1576718
Fans always reflect their oshi

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>>1576707
>subbed in the first place>>1576751

>> No.1576816

I believe that gatekeeping is an absolute necessity. westerners should not get involved with japanese culture. Liberals have already ruined games, tv, movies for me. I don't want anime/vtubers to end up the same way.

>> No.1576817

>>1576455
Yeah, but I want to fuck Marine while she makes Pikachu noises.

>> No.1576865

>>1576797
It's something I regret, that's true.

>> No.1576875

>>1576817
Kinda based

>> No.1576897

>>1576718
What are you talking about? I DM Kiara every complaint I see here. I'm in direct contact with her. Keep up the great work, she's listening.

>> No.1576900

>>1576816
Huzzah.

>>1576751
It's just a measure to silence critics.

>> No.1576907

>>1576816
Everyone who says this shit only watches seasonal isekai/haremshit. Real gatekeeping is "you're not a real anime fan unless you've watched at least six 80s mecha OVAs"

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>>1576751
野 in our name and we're an unity with order, yet look at you chicken schizoids...

>> No.1576926

>>1576816
This is why we need to split into 2 vtuber boards /wvt/ for western whore, holoEN, vshoujo, twitch slut and /vt/ for non-western vtuber

>> No.1576934

>>1576897
I believe this, and it’s sad to say there’s probably some truth to one of the hundred of spergs who’ve posted this

>> No.1576939

>>1576907
>"you're not a real anime fan unless you've watched at least six 80s mecha OVAs"
You're not tho.

>> No.1576955

>>1576816
"They hated Him for He speak the Truth"

>> No.1576963

>>1576751
LMFAO this actually isnt a rrat - a good amount of them actually do falseflag as antis with the goal of making them seem annoying and have the board turn against them in the same way antis supposedly got the board to turn against their oshi

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>>1573579
why does kiara or sjws type these long winded moral faggotry posts which are hypocritical by nature?

>> No.1577007

>>1576939
The point is that both sides of the culture war are shallow drooling retards. What actually matters is class.

>> No.1577012

>>1575789
>>1576531
Seconded anon, explain.

>> No.1577014

>>1576718
KFP generally won't deny:
>Kiara is retarded with electronics and reading instructions in general
>Kiara interacts too much with chat and should focus more on the story and game she's playing
>Kiara is far too sensitive to online criticism and shouldn't let her mood be ruined because of a single SC

There's plenty to criticize her for, its just that this place loves to go overboard with 'ruined collab/shit on genmates etc etc"

>> No.1577026

>>1576816

Are you honestly schizo enough to think there aren't any liberal Japanese vtubers

>> No.1577030

>>1576926
Annoying Orange and Kiara should be in one /aovt/ of their own

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>>1576718
>>1576781
ALWAYS

>> No.1577037

>>1573579
Who the fuck cares about her politics or her "backstory"? She's unpleasant to listen to for more than a few minutes at a time, she clearly thinks she's a lot funnier and more clever than she actually is, and for someone who spent any amount of time in Japan, she reads the room about as well an illiterate reads Tolstoy.

>> No.1577053

>>1577007
>What actually matters is class.
Class warfare is literally a subset of tribe warfare, which is a subset of race. Prove me wrong. Better yet, don't, because you can't.

>> No.1577063

>>1577037
This summarizes it well

>> No.1577065

>>1573980
Is it actually real?

>> No.1577069

>>1577026
did you even read my comment retard

>> No.1577097

>>1577037
This, but also her backstory, because she won't shut up about it.

>> No.1577099

>>1577031
>/vt/'s barneyfag is here
>>/vt/image/pAvu0rSjU5V5q6szt9s-SA

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Alright that's it I'm filtering "Kiara" from this board until you schizos stop having 13 threads up at any moment. Bye bitches.

>> No.1577167

>>1577026
haven't seen any, anon. But all western vts i've seen are classless dumpster roastie with their Stacy voice and schticks

>> No.1577201

>>1577167
no different than twitch thots

>> No.1577215

>>1574888
kek ALL of the western whores are a failure of a woman and failure of a human being in general. ESPECIALLY if they're liberals.

>> No.1577226

>Women should return to traditionalism, stay in the kitchen, have children, and obey their husbands. Feminism was a mistake.
What did Kiara mean by this?

>> No.1577243

>>1577215
this anon gets it

>> No.1577257

>>1577215
Liberalism itself wasn't a failing. Liberalism WITHOUT CONTEXT certainly is. Trying to apply it as an absolute truth and not a luxury brought on by abundance was a fucking mistake.

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>>1577099
oh no, you cant save it and post it again
>i...its only 1-2 IDs that hate kiara

>> No.1577291

>thread devolved into an unironic debate over ESS JAYY DUBYUUS in the year 20fucking21
go to hell, all of you

>> No.1577302

>>1577257
the better terminology would be progressivism aka cultural marxism instead of liberalism.

>> No.1577311

>>1577226
its called, she rode the cock carousel now she's "ready" for a family.

>> No.1577321

>>1577302
Point.

>> No.1577326

>>1577226
WTF i love Kiara now?

>> No.1577382

>>1577302
>cultural marxism
not a real thing, i know for a fact you haven't even read the authors you think ruined the world

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>>1577215
based incel

>> No.1577413

>>1577326
They all say that after they reach a certain type of obstacle.

>> No.1577424

>>1577276
they even made a poll rumao

>> No.1577458

>>1577382
Marx, you mean? The guy that hated royalty AFTER his noblewoman fiancee broke it off, the same guy that hated capitalism AFTER his super successful capitalist friends finally stopped lending him money? The guy that was a fucking successful lawyer at first until he decided to literally undermine his home country CULTURALLY and got exiled? That guy?

>> No.1577467

Are jannies just using this thread to contain the worst retards on both sides? because it's working, thanks dudes

>> No.1577490

>>1577458
people who say "cultural marxism" aren't even referring to marx himself, so you're an even bigger retard than i thought

>> No.1577506

>>1577490
>people aren't referring to marxism or marx when they invoke his name or ideals

>> No.1577521

>>1577291
Going to hell would require them to go outside, anon

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>>1577506
the "cultural marxism" theory refers to the frankfurt school who wrote a full century after marx

i can tell you haven't read them OR marx and that your political education consists of /pol/ infographics

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>>1577506
It's not real marxism, of course. Here's a handy guide for the people who are confused

>> No.1577616

>>1577276
>Oh no no no no
>>/vt/image/avX8okA7ZaCjt_GGeNyxNA

>> No.1577636

>>1577588
>It doesn't count cause I said so. Ha had, you dumb!
Well, I say otherwise, and you're a retard. Checkmate.

>>1577589
Based and Marxrolled.

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1577656

What's going on with this thread? What's with the infighting between Kiara's fanbase? And what's with all this SJW shit? This has got to be the best/worst anti thread I have ever seen

>> No.1577671

>>1577302
>Using cultural marxism after 2013

>> No.1577688

>>1577656
the truth is crazy in a world of lies

>> No.1577692

>>1577656
the based and epic kiara antis have revealed themselves to be the same retards who ruin every other board on this web site

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>>1577616
>kfp is proud he can use the search function to find similar images
applause to this genius, everyone

>> No.1577720

>>1577588
>He doesn't know that they were all Jewish

Yabai anon, you need to become more ethnically conscious.

>> No.1577758

>>1577698
Here we see the typical technique of spamming the same set of infographics over and over to create the illusion of consensus.

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1577764

>>1577656
>What's with the infighting between Kiara's fanbase?
they havent recovered after a mod caught them samefagging as antis to gain sympathy for kiara

>> No.1577818

westerners dont belong with vtubers

>> No.1577832

>>1577692
Your type is the reason we need gatekeeping. Just think of it as pre-cancellation.

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>>1577758
let's see in which places kiara is at the bottom of popularity personality wise
>YT where all the clippers did polls with over 100k votes
>she not only didnt win one of them, she was 4th in all of them
>FB/twitter, she's not even close here to touch Ina let alone others
>4ch (both /vt/ and /jp/ polls)

you're telling me, the same antis are on those 20 polls with over 100k on YT, over 50 polls on FB/twitter with 20k, /vt/ and /jp/ polls.

now, kfp tell me, was it worth it to come out of your general to choose battles you cannot win?

dont do that, take your meds.

>> No.1577883

>>1577490
Said, Foucault, Arendt, I read them all. And I still think they're crazy.

>> No.1577901

>>1577861
I didn't question the validity of the polls, I pointed out who is posting in this thread

>> No.1577907

Inviting Kiara was the same as creating a China 2.0 situation, because their politics WILL eventually become and issue when they think they have enough control of money. It's eventually going to backfire.

>> No.1577968

>>1577861
It definitely sucks being one of the less popular holos, more irrelevant holos.

>> No.1577987

>>1577883
none of those are marxists except debatably foucault, arendt is literally just a liberal who equally hated commies and nazis, said is a post-structuralist

>> No.1578003

>>1577901
>I didn't question the validity of the polls
not didnt, you cant because it utterly destroys your delusion of 1-2 IDs hating kiara theory.

>I pointed out who is posting in this thread
let me guess, the same 1-2 IDs are spamming this thread?

yeah we're not going anywhere until there are mentally ill people like you trying to defend attention whoring.

>> No.1578005

>>1577764
I wasn't here yesterday. Can you give me more context?

>> No.1578069

>>1578005


>>1531103 (Dead)
>>1532176 (Dead)
>>1540285 (Dead)
>>1548571

just see this thread where mod caught multiple KFP making threads/posts to gain sympathy for kiara by pretending to be antis.

>>1497433
>>1525381

>> No.1578076

>>1578003
No, a bunch of bandwagoning retards who shit up every board have a hot new meme to recite and feel like they're fitting in

>> No.1578112

>>1576306
>her unhealthy obsession with being the loudest person in the room
This applies well to most VTubers. Like why do you think there are so many women seeking to become VTubers.

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>>1578076
oh thats a minor improvement from 1-2 IDs theory, you still have a lot of journey to make,
I believe in you, kfp. reach the end.

>> No.1578122

>>1578076
>Kiara's fanbase is straight from twitter and/or rebbit
>IT'S YOU GUYS NOT FITTING IN.
Cope.

>> No.1578130

>>1578112
Opposite if anything. Most vtubers are natural introverts in real life who use the model as a way to open up without actually being on camera

>> No.1578139

>>1578122
lol the epic cope meme, now that some freaking win

>> No.1578149

>>1578122
redditors are 90% chumbuds

>> No.1578175

>>1578139
>>1578149
More cope and deflection.

>> No.1578183

>>1578149
don't throw anyone else under the bus, the problem here is not other fans

>> No.1578196

>>1578069
All me

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>>1578069
Holy fuck I don't know who to believe anymore. KFP could be arguably the worst fanbase in holo history

>> No.1578220

>>1578196
All for me, and me for all!

>> No.1578226

>>1578175
get new material retard

>> No.1578245

>>1578210
They might even be worse than China.
KFP is a literal ticking time bomb.
All it will take it Kiara making one slip up.
Screencap this.

>> No.1578284

>>1578210
I'd react in the same way if hundreds of retards were making shitpost threads attacking my oshi. Kiara has a lot of flaws and it's fine to dislike her but just ignore her and don't watch her streams.

>> No.1578315

>>1574100
Holy fuck. What a dumb bitch.

>> No.1578338

>>1578284
You know, I'd agree with you if they didn't false flag literally dozens of threads at the same time. At one point, they had fifteen fucking concurrent threads up.

>> No.1578363

>>1578210
I never get the point of these posts. So what if its the worst fanbase? This isn't a popularity contest, nothing is going to happen to them

>> No.1578365

>>1578338
KFP are tards too and they should chill out, but they didn't start it.

also it was 30+ threads at the peak lol

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>>1578069
https://youtu.be/rV4BlAlrIlk

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>>1578365
>but they didn't start it.
>A KFPer's hands typed this post.

>> No.1578496

>>1578443
Are you fucking special?

>> No.1578501

>>1578149
Chumbuds arent the ones making 15 threads per day begging for support for their oshi

>> No.1578516

>>1578443
>lolcow hands typed this post
I can do it too

>> No.1578531

>>1574815
Okay but is there really? It's one thing to talk about someone's accomplishments, but as soon as you compare them to others like that it becomes a competition.
That's why the best unityposts mention each hololives STRONGEST traits and doesn't try to make it a narrowminded fight.

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>>1578496
>>1578516
>exactly two KFP replies, as with all the other KFP replying ITT with the exact measure of cope/deflection
Is such an rrat even possible?

>> No.1578593

>>1578501
No fanbase is doing it. That's the whole point.

>> No.1578629

>>1578569
>everyone calling out a tribalfagging post is kfp
take your meds

>> No.1578651

>>1578593
>no fanbase is doing it
>15 Kiara threads about how great she is

Fuck off KFP faggot

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>>1578210
Yes, I watch Kiara more than other vtubers. Can't you tell?

>> No.1578682

>>1576926
Please go please go may your cursed thoughts perish please shut up at least. Fuck you.

Because we don't need fracture culture to get any worse that it already is.

>> No.1578684

>>1578651
Have you actually read any of the threads

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>>1578149
based

>> No.1578703

>>1578651
2/3 of them are falseflags by antis

>> No.1578745

>>1578703
>KFP falseflags anti-threads.
>Antis false flag supportive threads.
Hmmm.

>> No.1578754

>>1578745
yes

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>>1576907
>Real gatekeeping is "you're not a real anime fan unless you've watched at least six 80s mecha OVAs"
Unfathomably based. You're oshi has probably seen and enjoyed some form of Mobile Suit Gundam or Macross in her life, what excuse do you have?

>> No.1578807

>>1578130
Of course not, anon. No natural introvert would put up with a goddamn Chat for hours. Only highly narcisistic ones like Pekora.
Ultimately most VTubers are the type of nerdy girls who wouldn't shut the fuck up in a room if given the advantage. You can totally see it with people like Kiara and Coco.

You literally cannot be a VTuber if you don't know how to draw and retain attention. Don't delude yourself that these are some friendless losers like you were in highschool. These are actors selling you a fabricated personality working for a company that sells empathy as a literal product.

>> No.1578821

>>1577226
Alright, where do I apply to be a KFP employee?

>> No.1578845

>>1577291
>using the current year argument in current year
yeah sounds about right you fucking retard.

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>>1578372
Unironically can't find a better theme for the KFP fanbase of this board.

>> No.1578869

>>1578768
To be fair the reason why I like Kiara is because she has actual taste in Video Games. Atelier Ryza, Nier Automata, and Fire Emblem Three Houses? That alone puts her above any other EN girl in terms of video game taste.

>> No.1578884

>>1578768
Elite Miko is strictly better than me

>> No.1578906

>>1578372
kek saved

>> No.1578911
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>>1578768
Mechas are fucking retarded. Standup fights are as obsolete as line battles, that shit doesn't happen anymore. Look at Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Ukraine. That's what warfare looks like now. What good would a mecha be in Afghanistan other than being a giant target?
I fucking hate mechafags so goddamn much.

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1578914

Post this sheep

>> No.1578920

>>1578807
IRL socialization drains you in a way that reading a scrolling chat doesn't. You can't tell me that fucking Aqua and Rushia were social butterflies in high school.

>> No.1578944

>>1578821
BLM headquarters

>> No.1578950

>>1578911
Big laser robots make my pp hard in a way that most tanks don't, though

>> No.1578961

>>1577311
After taking a ride on the Cooter Scooter myself, I can totally relate. I legit want a daughter or a son way more than a gf or a wife at this point

>> No.1578962

>>1578920
Kiara is a natural extravert but she's a noticeable exception to the rule, and even then she's a turboweeaboo who's spent most of her life doing things related to Japanese pop culture. No one in Holo is truly "normal".

>> No.1578970

>>1578920
Sorry, anon. Aqua was a gigachad in high school.

>> No.1578979

>>1578911
>I can't enjoy things because they aren't as realistic as modern combat.
Holy fuck anon, do you seriously think watching blips on a screen as you rain 500 smart missiles across a range of 200 miles, BVR is entertainment? Go ask the Warthunder community which version of ground combat they enjoy playing, I'll be waiting.

>> No.1578991

>>1578911
what about those cool videos of t72s getting smoked by guys with RPGs because they couldn't swivel fast enough? If Assad had shelled out for RX-79[G] types we wouldn't have seen those

>> No.1578994

>>1578807
>>1578807
Pretending that these are professional actors is even more cope. Most of their past lives are an open book, they aren't selling shit people don't already know.
Cover lucked into this whole thing, none of their management has any decent experience in so-called "idol management". The entire point of the company was to sell the vtubing software using the holos to demonstrate its potential to revolutionize streaming. That it blew up so much was beyond their wildest expectations. There's a reason why their first "product" was a fucking shitty VR ping pong game. They're still stuck in the 'tech company' mindset, you can see it in their missteps every single month.

>> No.1579011

>>1576306
This sums it up very well. Holy shit she tries so hard to make everything circle around herself. Group collabs always go to shit because of her constant interrumptions and because she can't stop talking about shit nobody asked about.
She literally always deviates the conversation and ends up mentioning her stream, something she and the KFP niggers did, or shit like that.
The worst part is that she knows she has barely any overlapping viewers with the rest of the EN cast, so she always uses group collabs to shill her content. She will say shit like "last time on MY STREAM" or "ME AND THE EMPLOYEES were just talking about..." and then she just doesn't stop rambling on and on, practically begging for you to check out her channel.

>> No.1579018

>>1578970
He's just jealous because some wannabe black metal vocalist and a root vegetable got all the pusspuss and he didn't

>> No.1579041

>>1578944
>kiara is built for BBC
well that explains quite a bit.

>> No.1579049

>>1578920
You absolutely know nothing about them except what they want you to know about the characters that they're playing. Don't make the mistake for a split second that you know any of them to a personal level.

Because it's their literal job to keep their real life personalities hidden.

>> No.1579062

>>1579011
If you don't want to hear from her you aren't going to enjoy collabs she's a part of. I'm now sick of hearing you make this point.

>> No.1579076

>>1579049
>You absolutely know nothing about them
how new are you? i know about all the fucking roomates

>> No.1579079

>>1579049
>Any level of anonymity for Hololive members except Kanata.

Please, tell another joke anon.

>> No.1579097

>>1573957
underrated comment

>> No.1579110

>>1577698
holy based

>> No.1579113

>>1579062
Hey man, if every HoloEN Collab moving forward doesnt have Kiara, I'm down for it.

Collabs would be better without her

>> No.1579143

>>1579113
OK

>> No.1579145

>>1579049
Neither them nor Cover has ever had the resources or the willingness to use resources to keep their real lives under wraps. Companies can barely stop actual celebrities who barely do non-scripted performances from fucking up all over paparazzi headlines, and you think a bunch of streamers working from home for a tech company are gods of opsec and fake personalities?

>> No.1579152

>>1575063
Ever herd of Globalism you stupid nigger every SJW pushes this retarded mentality

>> No.1579183

>>1579079
Hmmm I wonder who that woman is that's between Coco's legs, yep no idea, totally anonymous

>> No.1579221

>>1579183
Yeah, got no idea what you're talking about.
(I stopped doing my roommate reps a few months ago)

>> No.1579225

>>1579062
I never watch collabs featuring Kiara unless they are full group collabs, in which I'm forced to listen to her fuck everything up. I have to tolerate that shit because my love for the other 4 is bigger than my hate for that bitch. Graduation can't come soon enough.

>> No.1579244

If there is one thing I can say for Kiara that is an unambiguously good thing about here, Hinotori is a good song.

>> No.1579268

>>1579221
Not being a doxxlet, Kanata and Coco are very good friends IRL

>> No.1579275

>>1579225
OK

>> No.1579324

>>1573579
>look up wrestling video
>expect some porn
>it is just japs doing japs shit with her
That is it. I'm officialy unretarded now and I'm ignoring all Kiara hateposts. Should done it from start

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>>1579324
No, you must reply ogey to each one, it is your destiny

>> No.1579403

Goos post OP, pretty much nailed it.

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>>1579324
Holy shit what lmao

>> No.1579508

>>1579049
>>1579049
A lot of people seem to think that all of these women just happen to possess the ability to don a fundamentally different persona, not for a single take, but for hours at a time, every single day.
You look at their success now and you think that is totally reasonable for the size of their sub base or viewer count, but that's emergent from the just-world fallacy that just because they got successful, they have the talent to back it up. You forget that hololive was far, far smaller even just last year. Pekora only hit 300K subs in fucking May 2020. That's 66% of Ollie's current sub count, and many people still consider the IDs to be nobodies who can do whatever they want.
Can you imagine undertaking that level of paranoia and character acting - from the very beginning - for a job that was paying you a reasonable amount at the time, sure, but nothing life-changing? Remember that some holos were actually considering retiring before the coof blew hololive sky high. Why could Cover find these godlike professional actresses who washed out of cutthroat VA schools or that talent agencies rejected? To accept this narrative is to assume that Cover's scouting department and the holos are literally the absolute best and most dedicated in the world, rather than the far more reasonable take that they are trying to maintain a persona but 90% of what you see is what you get.
And where are the mid-tier vtubers, those who would have failed to make the cut to be these kayfabe gods? Where are the moderately successful people trying to put on a personality like them but failing, breaking character constantly, and getting into scandals?

>> No.1579656

>>1578970
Aqua just had a throwaway comment yesterday again about how she still can't go to the doctor without someone else to be alongside her
I don't know what she would gain from continuing a months-long 'lie' seeing as her chat doesn't give her superchats unless she gets a champion, that place is like a desert during most of the stream.

>> No.1579857

>>1578869
Seems like Kiara just goes after games with cute females.

>> No.1579910

>>1578994
Isn't their tech falling behind others now, some indies have amazing l2ds.

>> No.1579942

>>1575707
>literal who suddenly claim he's a leader of meme movement out of nowhere
only retarded and braindead faggot follow him, and he deserve to get punched. I fucking hate niggers but if i meet him on the streets getting beaten by niggers and i bring a gun, i wouldnt shoot those coon and i'd just laugh at him

>> No.1580279

>>1578069
jesus

>> No.1580403

>>1573579
Bro that's such a nice speech but don't bother it's just teacucks being teacucks and tatsunokos being salty their oshi is now not the only super-relevant JP/EN speaking person with their ego as big as said oshi, despite the fact she "basically created the EN branch". Just chill and keep being cool!

>> No.1580595

>>1574575
You hit the nail on the head! I don’t hate her, but her attitude and extreme emotions real don’t jive well with the other talent. It makes her seem needy, clingy, and not fun to be around. She just needs to chill out more and not take things so seriously

>> No.1580621

>>1574155
So, teacuck or...? I desire the knowledge, the wisdom!

>> No.1580704

>>1575241
I only came to see if someone already posted it

>> No.1580871

>>1577030
I dont want kaichou to be quarantined tho...

>> No.1580934

Kfps are getting fucking destroyed itt kek

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Holy shit
KFPfaggots are on a whole other level

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>>1578069
feel proud to have been in all those threads, fuck KFP

>> No.1582332

>>1577031
just like any liberal would do

>> No.1583641

>>1579324
That's the meme part, now go look for her softcore porn.

>> No.1584066

>>1579324
>it is just japs doing japs shit with her
Raped multiple times a joke on camera without her consent.
I understand japanese humor is different than ours but keep in mind she's not born in japan.

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>>1573579
>backstory and not understand her situation and be empathetic to her.
This need to be said.
Thanks for the wall of text tho.

>> No.1584239

Are KFPs really fighting with themselves? That's effing hilarious.

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1584317

>supporting a weeb who whored herself for attention
Extremely cringe

>> No.1585049

bumping this absolute gem of a thread

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>>1573579
>Supporting BLM
>Fucks BBC

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