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Why is she such a bad singer?

>> No.1572339

she's good though

>> No.1572341

Suisei lives in her head rent free.

>> No.1572363

>>1572311
She's a better singer than you Kiara

>> No.1572381

I liked this board better when we made Kiara anti-threads

>> No.1572404
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>> No.1572446

>>1572381
This. Not much you can make fun of shark other than being monotone or getting squashed by Suisei and Risu or dead subs, by with Kiara there are a lot more materials

>> No.1572473

>>1572381
Gura always gots a couple, but chumbuds already respond so there's no reason to making several. Just be glad they stay contained and result in antis getting bans

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>>1572311

>> No.1572767

Too lazy for singing lessons. Wasted potential imo

>> No.1576115
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1576115

How do we stop Mel's insane growth, anons? Can anyone else ever catch up or will she always be the top subbed holo outside of the IDs?

>> No.1578047

>>1572311
Why are your bait threads getting more uncreative by the day?
>>1572341
she does not even think about susei

>> No.1578103

>>1578047
Literally haven't posted here in a month. Bump btw

>> No.1578141

>>1572311
That's why she's the least subbed holo
Only our queen Anya is worthy of the top spot.
Her 3M celebration was great

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>>1572446
You make fun of her for being a retard.

>> No.1578165

>>1578103
sure son, sure

>> No.1578173

>>1572311
Are you fucking kidding me? I hear her sing for the first time, I'm expecting gobs of adorable but ultimately shit singing. GET THIS INSTEAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L77WpA6a_jA

Holy shit man.

>> No.1578192

>>1572311
t.KFP

>> No.1578201

>>1572311
>Why is she such a bad singer?
That is not a picture of Sora or Susei tho

>> No.1578446

https://youtu.be/esMbZZyhs0M

https://youtu.be/_0fhOleVmGQ

https://youtu.be/Un4RmIOhEUY

https://youtu.be/xcEutF89KyI

https://youtu.be/6wBWZ21okRA

https://youtu.be/xFe0dUQuqBs

>> No.1578558

>>1578446
I've only listened to her rendition of Plastic Love out of those and it's honestly grating. She's not Coco-tier bad or anything and her voice is actually quite suited to a select few songs but her fans tend to overrate her.

>> No.1578636

why do KFP like this?

>> No.1578735

>>1578173
Gawr "I can't belt" Gura

>> No.1578800

>>1578636
Gura's bad singing? Yeah! We love it!

>> No.1578834

>>1578446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBFb1aj2zWY
I will never forgive her for making Dance Monkey actually listenable
Now I have it stuck in my head.

>> No.1578852

>>1578558
Then your opinion is irrelevant

>> No.1578881

because she wants people to keep paying for a membership. She paywalls the good singing.

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>>1578852
>1578558
Don't reply to bait.

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1578997

Why can't chumbuds take criticism?

>> No.1579070

>>1578881
based business woman that useless though, her songs always get leaked/clipped

>> No.1579074

She's actually pretty good but her fans who think she's top tier in hololive don't know shit about what they're talking about. She does have certain songs she's much better at.

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>> No.1579103

>>1578997
>lol why does she fucking suck so bad bros??
>criticism

>> No.1579124

>>1578834
Such a good rendition, and even the scuff was cute as fuck.

>> No.1579182

>>1579103
How was my post (>>1578558 ) bait? You can't take criticism.

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>>1572311

>> No.1579213

>>1578834
Now I'm curious what the original dance monkey sounds like yes, I'm a weeb. I only listen to anime songs

>> No.1579217

>>1579182
Write 600 words about it.

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Guracute.

>> No.1579286

>>1579074
I mostly listen to Music focused Chuubas and I'd still put Gura in my top 10 (Top 5 will always be Fuji Aoi, Suntory Nomu and Kashiko Mari, Vesperbell Kasuka and KMNZ Liz in that order)

I'm not musically trained or anything, but I really just can't get into Azki or Suisei

>> No.1579300

>>1578881
> Member-only poll
> Unarchived Karaoke 66%

>> No.1579311

>>1579300
Do you think ASMR would win now?

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>>1579311
Laundry ASMR uooohhhh

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>>1572311
Forgot the image

>> No.1579372

>>1579311
yes, the wall of new members when she announced she got the 3dio supports that

>> No.1579377 [DELETED] 

shes just a good amateur singer. never a professional.

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>>1579311
Encouraging cleaning and self-care streams so she becomes less of a slob!

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>>1579286
Listen to Quon Tama
https://streamable.com/9brqgq

>> No.1579485

>>1579461
I will

Thanks for the suggestion!

>> No.1579527

>>1579182
>can't even bother listening to all of the songs listed, which would take 20 minutes
>criticism

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1579547

is this soundpost thread?

>> No.1579570

>>1578558
Maybe...try to...listen to others song on that list than just one...?
Idk seem reasonable to me

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>>1579547
might dump another one :}

>> No.1579621

>>1579547
god, gura has the uncanny ability to make shitty generic white girl pop songs sound good

>> No.1579626

>>1579377
I think she would agree with you.

>> No.1579638

>>1579213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx4nWW9z0ig
I hate the original

>> No.1579655

Listen to her messing around
https://streamable.com/hq653a

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>>1579638
Holy fuck. I'll cleanse myself with Gura's version.

>> No.1579701

>>1579678
It has 1.5 billion views

>> No.1579828

>>1579701
I don't get why they had to make it sound like the singer's voice is cracking the whole song, otherwise pretty catchy.

>> No.1579844

>>1578735
At least, she hits 90% of the notes and isn't constantly flat like Kiara.

>> No.1579875

>>1579844
anon, your sarcasm reps...

>> No.1579882

gura fucking sucks
slowed down gura, on the other hand, is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlKn33BUccw

>> No.1579895

>>1579311
I don't know honestly. not everyone enjoy ASMR, but I know every membershrimps loves to hear her singing

>> No.1579908

>>1579882
Fuck off

>> No.1579932

>>1579882
daycore sucks

>> No.1579959

>>1579932
>daycore
I lol’d

>> No.1579978

>>1579959
>Anti-Nightcore (also called Daycore) is the opposite of the nightcore. Instead of a upbeat speed song it's a low slow one
?

>> No.1580005

>>1579882
>gura fucking sucks

...anon said, while listening to her songs.

>> No.1580014

>>1579978
I liked the slowed down versions because she sounds like an actual adult there. And listening to it its evident she has a ridiculously good voice.

>> No.1580041

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5DQUZJglms
love this mature shark

>> No.1580107

>>1580014
fair enough, in the end it's back to our preferences. I personally hate slowed down versions, kinda lost its soul.

>> No.1580256

>>1579882
>>1580014
Kek, so reverse Towa. I think your taste is shit anon, but I can respect it.
I think these slowed down versions are an insult to gura. Hell, any kind of drastic vocal tampering is an insult to the original singer.

>> No.1580345

>>1572311
Still better than Kiara

>> No.1580386

>>1579978
That's just Vaporwave

>> No.1580893

>>1572311
So what's this about her debut stream getting copyright striked? She mentioned in her debut rewatch that due to ride on time she couldn't rewatch that part.
So her debut stream, all 3.8million views of it, has been claimed by some nip record label?

>> No.1580925

>>1580893
I think it has to do with the monetization
They got permissions to sing that song but not make money off of it, her debut was unmonetized anyways.

>> No.1581066

>>1580925
Tough break.

>> No.1581169

>>1578558
>Coco
>bad
Shit taste

>> No.1581174

>>1580345
>>1579844
>>1572363
>>1572381
And there it is. The only point of this bait thread. Schizos, do you really not have anything better to do? Are your lives really this miserable?

>> No.1582398

>>1581174
It's the same dude
Just don't reply

>> No.1582580

cute?
funny?
stinky?
MUST BE GURA

>> No.1582959

>>1582580
>stinky?
How did this running theme even start?

>> No.1583472

>>1582959
She can't help but mention either sniffing something, being stinky, feet and toes, or how many baths she takes every single stream.
EVERY SINGLE STREAM
Even normalfags caught on and her discord has a "days since Gura mentioned feet" counter (it's usually 0)

>> No.1583995

>>1572311
Her oshi is Noel what do you expect?
Seriously speaking kys faggot, she isn't the best but she isn't bad at all

>> No.1586635

>>1582398
>le one guy
okay KFP

>> No.1587282

>>1572311
Kys

>> No.1587547

>>1581169
t. never listened to Coco singing

>> No.1587572

>>1582959
Member stream , she mentioned deodorant or something

>> No.1591666

>>1587572
Well, what does she use?

>> No.1594540

>>1578558
>Gura's plastic love
>grating
That was one of the first ones that made me realize she had real, actual, not-bullshit talent to eventually go professional. I think there's something seriously fucking wrong with your ears.

>> No.1594578

>>1579074
>but her fans who think she's top tier in hololive don't know shit about what they're talking about
It's the opposite, all of the ones who say she isn't the best never have any idea what they're talking about, they don't even know basic singing terms let alone more nuanced understanding of technique. Actual vocalists always rate Gura as the absolute top or tied for it with one of the other best hololive singers like Risu.

>> No.1601216

>>1594578
There are no actual vocalists here or anywhere evaluating vtubers, you always use the same meme terms

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>>1572311
why is she also terrible at among us?

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>>1594540
cognitive dissonance is when someone stupid like you convinces themselves this no talent twat has singing talent.

here: a talented singer.

>> No.1601289

>>1576115
It shows the power of EN exposure. Hopefully they do a few double takes.

>> No.1601360

>>1601247
What are you talking about? She's got rhythm, she hits every note, she enunciates instinctively well, and so on. I haven't listened to all of the HoloJP girls, but out of the EN girls, Gura is by far the best.

>> No.1601374

>>1601360
considering no EN can sing that doesn't say a lot.

>> No.1601398

>>1579286
Ryushen has some really good songs

>> No.1601457

Gura is a very good singer I'll admit but she has no range at all, she always does the same type of song and needs weeks to practise them. Singers like Watame and Flare might not be as gifted technically but they can sing high pitched songs, low pitched songs, soft ballads and high energy mecha themes, hell Watame can even sing opera

>> No.1601466

>>1601374
Fair enough.

>> No.1601501

>>1601457
Did she ever think about taking singing lessons? She's got the potential, but yeah, her limited range is a bit disappointing.

>> No.1601648

>>1601216
Wrong, all you have to be is a competent vocal teacher or sing in a choir for money to really be considered a vocalist so there are likely plenty on /vt/ like me. Like >>1594578 said Gura is talented at singing and anyone who's gotten some sort of voice training should be able to tell that much. However, I don't believe the rrat that she's never gotten training since she's known to have liked playing the piano and singing since youth and likely received some sort of training growing up. Though I am inclined to believe she developed her voice acting skills (namely maintaining her Gura voice for hours and singing with it) by herself since there isn't good training for that out there beyond bigger cities.

>> No.1602156

>>1601648
If you listen to her latest karaoke, her musical knowledge amounts to 5 minute vocal warmup YouTube videos and being able to read sheet music.. or at least chords.

>> No.1602415

>>1602156
i think she mentioned having her confidence crushed earlier in life when she did some singing auditions, and it took until just now before she started taking singing seriously again.

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>>1601501
Bait post in a bait thread. How can anyone be this wrong? Out Of Hololive, JP included, Gura has the most talent and skill for singing. Her vocal performances are an absolute treat, and You’d have to be staring at numbers so hard you went cross eye to think otherwise.

>> No.1602493

>>1602415
It was probably her original recorded music making national news that brought back her confidence.

>> No.1602512

>>1602459
You people are fucking insane, it's the mildest criticism he could give

>> No.1602565

>>1602512
That post is bait.

>> No.1602686

>>1602565
Most likely, but there are people who unironically believe this

>> No.1602717

>>1572311
Nigger OP never heard a bad signer in his life and shall be bullied for it

>> No.1602760

Ya'll singing coaches can fuck off back to /mu/

>> No.1602837

>>1602686
Which is sad because she'll be the first one to tell you that her range is limited.
She's said multiple times that some songs are uncomfortable for her, and she looks for higher key versions right there on stream.

>> No.1602868

>>1601247
The absolute irony of this post is palpable.

>> No.1602888

>>1601360
>I haven't listened to all of the HoloJP girls, but out of the EN girls, Gura is by far the best.
I'll save you the trouble, because I HAVE listened to all of the JP girls, as well as all of the ID girls, and Gura is still the best.

>> No.1602940

>>1602837
I don't see how this is an issue

This is like saying opera singers are bad because they can't sing Metal

>> No.1602951

>>1602837
Yeah she can't sing low, but almost none of the other holos can properly hit high notes, including Suisei and AZKi and whatever others get memed as being good even though they don't have half of Gura's ability. Her range is just as good as theirs if not better, it's just all in the higher keys. When someone who can sing lower than Gura can also match her high range then you can say they have better range. Not one of them can.

>> No.1602981

>>1602951
Her range isn't good though

>> No.1602986

>>1602837
Honestly speaking for an anime Vtuber like Gura who will be releasing Jpop should she get the opportunity to record an original song, having a limited range in a higher register is a happy problem to have. I'm certain most girls would rather have a comfortable high register but limited range over a slightly larger range but shit sounding higher register.

>> No.1602999

>>1602981
>Fuck off back to /mu/

>> No.1603005

>>1602981
But it is though

>> No.1603037

>>1602940
V-tubers are entertainers, seeing someone sing the same shit over and over again is less entertaining than a karaoke stream with a ton of variety no matter how technically well they sing

>> No.1603061

>>1602981
You really only need an octave and a half to sing most songs, her range is fine. I think she could go lower but she might not be able to access that part of her voice without breaking character

>> No.1603064

>>1602981
It's not spectacular but it's good enough. Range isn't everything when it comes to singing. She's got average range equal to all the other average singers in hololive, but she has far better tone, perfect pitch, smooth transitions, vibrato, power, agility, breath control, etc. that mogs all of them.

>> No.1603100

>>1602986
Exactly this. It's nearly a non-issue, but it's the thing the haters harp on because they have almost nothing else they can criticize about her vocal talent apart from blatant lies.

>> No.1603105

>>1602940
>>1602951
This is also true, but that anon wasn't saying she sucks because of her range, he was saying her limited range is disappointing, which is understandable.
She wants to train her lower register too, last time she deliberately chose the lower key Part of your World because she had been practicing it.

>>1602986
Honestly her voice doesn't work well with jpop because she copies the anime opening squeaky loli voice she hears in SoL anime. IMO she should try to avoid that voice when singing jpop.

>> No.1603121

>>1603037
Variety =/= range in the vocal sense dumbass, you're using terms you don't even understand.

>> No.1603159

>>1603064
>perfect pitch
I don't really watch Gura beyond clips and collabs but I always wondered if she had perfect pitch. There was a clip of her talking about the Can You Do The Hololive Rap song and she casually sang part of it in the original pitch without referencing the video at all.

>> No.1603200

>>1603159
She didn't describe it as "perfect pitch" but she has talked about how she is extremely pitch sensitive and can hear it better than most people, and there's roommate info that supports the theory she has it. Combine that with how rarely she messes up on pitch and it's pretty self-evident.

>> No.1603303

>>1603121
Some of these niggers need to watch an an Ame Karaoke stream I swear

>> No.1603309

>>1603121
Where did I say anything about range retard? People don't watch vtuber karaoke for the same reasons people go to opera and 99% of fans don't give a fuck about music theory terms

>> No.1603316

>>1602951
>but almost none of the other holos can properly hit high notes
Eh, I'd be interested to see if Gura can hit the high notes in Vocaloid songs like Sora can.

>> No.1603367

>>1603309
>can't even read the fucking reply chain

>> No.1603396

>>1603316
To be fair Sora is THE designated signer of Hololive.

>> No.1603405

>>1603200
Yeah, I noticed the only flubs she makes on karaoke are messing up timing and occasionally forgetting lines when most people usually mess up on pitch control. With how easy it is to go flat (especially in karaoke) it makes sense that she has perfect pitch or something close to it and that in itself is already a huge advantage to any singer.

>> No.1603423

>>1603316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH9-2hiA2EA

Sora can't even hit them right dude.

>> No.1603464

>>1603064
vibrato difference may be the most striking.
https://youtu.be/Un4RmIOhEUY?t=164
https://youtu.be/_2Idpr4y7uk?t=141
it will be fun to watch them all further develop their singing talents. i hope cover can help them produce a lot more original songs.

>> No.1603475

>>1603316
Anon Gura's screams are easily in the whistle register, it's not a question of if she can hit those high notes, it's a question of if she can hit them well. She's a classic soprano in every sense and hitting those kinds of high notes for singers like her is just a matter of training.

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>>1603464
>i hope cover can help them

>> No.1603522

>>1603200
I feel like whenever she giggles/laughs in the middle of singing, she hears herself very slightly off tune even though it sounds fine to me. This is most evident in that auto-tuned section of the most recent karaoke.

>> No.1603543

>>1603405
She misses some notes when she's messing around like in Bohemian Rhapsody, she didn't mess up again after that one.
https://youtu.be/m8AG0OV1QCI @ 0:25

>> No.1603561

>>1603423
I swear to fucking god the faggots that compare real voices to vocaloids need to neck themselves or go back to /jp/

>> No.1603595

>>1603543
Forgot the time tag, it's at 25 seconds.

>> No.1603600

>>1603522
>whenever she giggles/laughs in the middle of singing
That almost always comes after she messed up a timing.

>> No.1603619

>>1603500
>Company that pays their salary won't help them improve so that they can make more money

What delusion are you living?

>> No.1603649

>>1603619
thingscovershoulddofortheirtalents.txt isn't a meme for no reason, anon, although I don't think they are as completely incompetent as the memes suggest.

>> No.1603652

>>1572311
Pic unrelated. I agree with OP, Kiara is such a bad singer. She is the worst singer of HoloEN and she keep making shitty generic anime songs. I think she should go back to being a cam whore or a wrestler.

>> No.1603676

>>1602981
Absolutely fucking wrong. You either
a) don’t know what you’re talking about
b) haven’t actually listened to Gura singing
c) have numberfagged so hard you lost your mind.

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22 thousand people were watching fucking Noel's karaoke stream a month ago and you faggots are in here arguing about musical theory
No one cares, do you nerds not realize that? People want to be entertained and couldn't give a fuck about
>far better tone, perfect pitch, smooth transitions, vibrato, power, agility, breath control, etc
if she's not entertaining, which she isn't if she always sings the same shit

>> No.1603680

>>1603619
Cover is absolutely incompetent.
Only very recently have they started actually helping them with music stuff, every cover and original song you see on their channels is thanks to the talents themselves making it happen.

>> No.1603704

>>1603679
She doesn't always sing the same shit, but nice cope and goalpost moving after you got blown out.

>> No.1603716

https://youtu.be/_R4k4wxA8bo
https://youtu.be/_R4k4wxA8bo
Quon Tama is singing RIGHT NOW

>> No.1603729

>>1603037
I mean, that's not their fault

most of the time they ask for suggestions from their fans and it's the fan's fault they want to hear Ride on Time for the umpteenth time.

I don't see how this is strictly a Gura issue

>> No.1603743

>>1603676
Chumbuds are the biggest numberfags around the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.1603749

>>1603743
>actually believing this
Kek

>> No.1603759

>>1603743
I think you meant KFP

>> No.1603783

>>1603680
You really think that the talent themselves handle the production? I can name one person crazy enough to actually do it, just one.

>> No.1603820

>>1603783
They don't do it themselves, but they have to pay for it out of their own pockets. This is well known stuff anon.

>> No.1603823

>>1602512
> mild criticism
It’s false criticism and none of it will be tolerated. Give an inch, and you will only continue to cede ground. Pay attention to politics these past few years and you’d understand.

>> No.1603842

>>1603652
Objectively, Ame is a worse singer than Kiara because Ame straight up doesn't sing and this is coming from a teamate

>> No.1603860

>>1603823
Based.

>> No.1603870

>>1603842
t. KFP

>> No.1603896

>>1603820
It gives them creative freedom and they make the money back come next month. I don't see a downside.

>> No.1603929

>>1603679
You get btfo and shit all over yourself on your way out the door. Did you vote Biden?

>> No.1603934

>>1603896
>It gives them creative freedom
That's a fair point I didn't consider. Although they still can't ultimately release the track without Cover's approval, but I guess it's still better.

>> No.1603939

>>1603870
I don't like Kiara's singing either, Ame is worse but at least she has an excuse.

>> No.1603956

>>1603749
>replies in 17 seconds
Someone's mad lol
>>1603823
Your meme shark will overtake Kizuna Ai soon, she'll be fine if some anon says her range isn't great, stop being so embarrassing

>> No.1603960

>>1603939
Ame is atleast have a SOUL

>> No.1603978

>>1603652
This >>1603842. But Ame never billed herself as a singer and is pretty open about admitting she sucks. Her voice has a lot of potential though, if she learned the fundamentals and could sing an entire song on pitch and add some dynamics to it, she could sound 2nd best in EN.

>> No.1603996

>>1603820
damn, what was the point of INNK Music, then?

>> No.1604025

next public karaoke when?

>> No.1604026

>>1603996
I have no idea, that one might be a different situation for AZKi only? There's a lot of shit about Covers operation that absolutely no one understands except Yagoo and God. And maybe only one of those.

>> No.1604028

>this level of thread has 170 replies

sasuga retards

>> No.1604048

>>1603842
Here's a comparison
https://streamable.com/hc71tb

>> No.1604054

>>1603929
Fuck off back to /pol/ crossboarder retard if you can't help but bring up politics when talking about anime girls singing

>> No.1604057

>>1604028
I was disappointed that people were responding to bait at first, too, but then the discussion moved in a legitimate direction and was actually interesting, so I stuck around.

>> No.1604133

>>1603934
I don't think cover gives a shit as long as they're not throwing niggers and faggots in the lyrics. Mori is dropping fucks, refrencing brands, making personal balads and even dropping disstracks.

>> No.1604147

>>1604054
Fucking knew it. Go Dream of numbers, assclown.

>> No.1604200

>>1604026
I think it was the same thing as Hololive Gamers.
Now AZKI is a more "traditional" Holo and Bloom seems to be a more thought out version of the music side of Hololive

>> No.1604212

>>1603939
The problem with Kiara is that she's trying to sing using her fake voice, which doesn't really work. If she used her REAL voice, and not the nasally chicken voice, it might sound good.

>> No.1604240

>>1604147
Go back, nobody wants your kind on this board

>> No.1604243

>>1604048
Here's a thing about Kiara.
She's an Austrian singing in japanese. It's a miracle she even manages to sound ok at points.

>> No.1604342

>>1604048
>https://streamable.com/hc71tb
Amelia isn't even trying and she still sounds better than the fucking Chicken

>> No.1604373

>>1604212
Honest to god I have no idea why she still insists on doing it.

We know her normal voice sounds better, she knows her normal voice sounds better, even the most braindead KFP knows it sounds better and she still insists on doing it.

Is she worried about Roommate shit? /jp/ and /tg/ already know and hate her. What's the worst that could happen? She upsets some oldfag who thinks Vtubing is the NWA in the 80s by "dropping character" ?

>> No.1604533

>>1604373
Honestly I think she just likes the character

>> No.1604560

>>1604373
Pretty much every JP who puts on a voice for her character sings in their normal voice, Towa, Rushia, Subaru for example (except Luna who is soulfull af singing in the baby voice)
She's just retarded I guess, I don't get it

>> No.1604569

>>1604373
ah, she should really do like subaru and drop the bird voice for singing at least.
https://youtu.be/6-mgXYbfyf8?t=150

>> No.1604630

>>1604028
The best way to deal with a bait thread besides ignoring it is changing the topic into an interesting discussion.

>> No.1604687

>>1604533
To a point where it impacts her singing? Come on, even she isn't that braindead?

>> No.1604705

>>1603037
>>1603729
Marine sings Bloody Stream every single time and we all nut for it anyways
>>1603679
This. Noel's KING cover is quite possibly the worst sung cover of the worst song I've ever heard. Which is exactly why I can't stop listening to it.

>> No.1604729

>>1604373
There really isn’t anything wrong with Kiara’s singing, the problem is people are trying to compare her to Gura, and it’s not even a fair fight. The same goes for pretty much everyone in Hololive and jpop music in general, with very few exceptions.
I’d listen to Gura’s singing even if she wasn’t Hololive, and I’m not sure I can say that for anyone of the other talents.

>> No.1604752

>>1604560
I am convinced that she actually has a baby voice and just slurs her speech a little bit and sings in her normal voice that is so similar to her baby voice that there is next to no difference.

Based Luna.

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>>1572311
This is now gawr gura music thread
post your favorite. Here's mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoE0eCOvk2o

>> No.1604789

>>1604705
I thought nutting to Marine's voice was the norm?

>> No.1604835
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>>1604761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjxGn2UCX8w

>> No.1604874

>>1604761
https://youtu.be/eH5siRCDy28

>> No.1604875

>>1604687
She is. Just watch her do anything and you see the epitome of stubbornness

>>1604752
https://youtu.be/xUK8z6GMmWk

>> No.1604893

>>1604705
Hey man, I'd listen to Gura sing Ride on Time all day

I'm just asking why the poster thinks a Vtuber singing the same song repeatedly is an indication of shit range and by extension, shit singing skills

>> No.1604896

>>1604729
I don't know anon, there is something about Kiara's singing that just makes it feel fake to me. I don't know.

>> No.1604904

>>1604729
Marine is def one of those exceptions btw. Extremely talented singer and entertaining.

>> No.1604943

>>1604705
Thing with Marine is she'll sing Bloody Stream and Roshin Yukai in the same stream

>> No.1604983

>>1604875
I'm telling you if she dropped the chicken voice the bitch factor would drop by at least 30%

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1605045

>> No.1605086

>>1605045
where's emo karaoke, Gooruh? you said that you want to do it

>> No.1605137

>>1605045
That is some fetish fuel right there.

>> No.1605143

>>1604983
I think Kiara might just be bit....German (crazy). I think Gura is slightly intimidated by that intensity.

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>>1604789
pic related
>>1604761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L77WpA6a_jA
>>1604904
Sono Chi No Sadame and Staple Stable in the same stream. She's got pipes. Only other female cover I've heard of that song that worked was Shoko-tan's.

>> No.1605226

>>1572311
never had proper training
does random technique the internet told her to do
barely practices
doesn't even know how to whistle

>> No.1605269

>>1605143
Oh yeah...Deutch is a very forceful sounding language so it makes sense that she sounds forceful as shit even in english. Shit doesn't translate well.

That's an actual thing. Look up Czechs speaking english. They're applying czech speech patterns and grammar to english making it sound all fucky.

No doubt same shit happens with Kiara.

>> No.1605283

>>1604761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTwHCC4stu8&t=4650s

Also liked this, her adlib in Ahoy

>> No.1605291

>>1604373
/tg/ hates her? I expected it from /jp/ but not from the tabletop board

>> No.1605297

>>1605226
I didn't know how to snap my fingers until I was 18. Not knowing how to whistle is not even shitpost worthy.

>> No.1605310

>>1604893
I think she's a very good singer anon, don't put words in my mouth. All I'm saying is that a good karaoke stream is made up of more ingredients than just raw singing talent, I'd rather her try to sing new types of song even if she's not as good at singing them because that would be fun

>> No.1605350

>>1605291
I HAD A FUCKING BRAIN FART IT WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY /vt/

>tfw you alt tab between boards like a tard.

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>>1605226
>doesn't even know how to whistle
hey, I know another blue dorks who doesn't know to whistle

>> No.1605433

>>1605291
Aside from my retarded typo. I actually saw people talking about Noel on /tg/

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>>1572311
>Obvious as fuck bait thread
>215 replies from 70IPs

>> No.1605490

>>1605269
Exactly what I was thinking. She may also be slightly cray cray, but it’s endearing desu.

>> No.1605515

>>1605310
Actually she has the most variety
... Or maybe Kiara...
But Gura has like 7 hours of different songs already. I don't know the exact number but she has sung a LOT of songs.

>> No.1605550

>>1605482
Tbf the thread is mostly hijacked now

>> No.1605575

>>1604560
Pretty sure that IS her voice. It sounds the exact same as whatever previous nijisanji character she played had.

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>>1578162
Yeah but theres a TON of other chuubas to do that with, it gets stale, doesnt help that being a retard is an appeal to some chuubas

>> No.1605586

>>1605490
She's unironically autistic. And not the Aqua or Gura kind of autistic where it's kinda cute.

I mean the can't read the room and tone for shit kind of autism.

>> No.1605634

>>1605587
Is there an actual bimbo chuuba? And I mean like honest to god, stereotype of a bimbo.

>> No.1605677

>>1605515
>7 hours of different songs
Flare did 6 hours of different songs in a single stream a month ago lol

>> No.1605714

>>1605677
Gura sang Fallout country. Checkmate.

>> No.1605759

>>1605677
Yeah but many if not all of those songs are repeats from previous streams which is the point.

>> No.1605764

>>1605515
>>1605677
I think looking at percentages of songs sung that are unique would be a better indicator of whether or not a chuuba sings more variety.

>> No.1605805

>>1605310
>new types of song
Like what exactly? Death metal? Everyone in hololive sings jpop and anisongs
Gura does jpop/anisong to country to jazz to sappy white girl pop. Maybe you just don't like her taste.

>> No.1605874

hololive has its fair share of good singers, but there definitely are better singers in the VTuber scene outside of hololive

>> No.1605876

>>1605269
Indian speech patterns are pretty crazy too. Beyond just the accent. Odd pauses in saying things with sound emphasis on the end of words.

>> No.1605929

>>1605876
Dated an indian chick. Both of us spoke english to each other.

I am a slavanon. Imagine how those convos sounded.

>> No.1606029

>>1605874
name 23

>> No.1606068

>>1605634
Hoshikawa?

>> No.1606532

>>1604752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUK8z6GMmWk

>> No.1606687

>>1605874
I believe you, but I've only seen one indie so far who is comparable/better than Gura.

>> No.1606747

>>1606029
Is 23 the number of holos you think are good at singing or just a random number you picked?

I'm just gonna name VTubers I follow that I think are on par or better than the good singers in hololive:

- Kizuna Ai
- the VWP girls from Kamitsubaki
- Toko, Chima, Melissa from nijisanji
- Fuji Aoi
- Kyo and Leona from Re:AcT

There's probably a lot more good talent out there in the VSinger sphere that I've yet to discover.

>> No.1606803

>>1604761
Dance Monkey

>> No.1606932

>>1606747
>Kizuna Ai
Okay, I got curious and actually tried listening. I think her cover/songs are just carried by music production.

Unless I am listening to a bad version of her songs, feel free linking something better.

>> No.1607265

>>1606747
Link some examples anon, at the risk of your already crumbling credibility.
If you’re right, we’d love to hear it.

>> No.1607494

>>1606747
Remove Kizuna Ai then I will agree.
Kizuna Ai has a nice voice but her range is so narrow in the Ai Ai Ai song.
The music production tailors for her.

>> No.1607620

>>1605634
Someone please say yes, a bimbo chuuba would be the best thing ever

>> No.1608945

>>1604761
Hard to choose. But recently I've been repeating this nonstop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-2mNduBpxs

>> No.1609228

Idk shit about music, but there's one thing I noticed in these kind of thread: People who say Gura is a bad singer or worse than their Jap oshi never have any point to back their opinion, while the other side often gives long explanation with music terms and video proofs that looks pretty believable.

Personally I enjoy Gura the most. Not only her voice is extremely pleasant to listen to but also has the most variety. She can sing Japanese songs just fine, while other holos can't even speak an English word properly.

>> No.1609825

I was listening to some of her more recent stuff and I noticed something interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQzZBHXNYKg
During the 2nd half of this one you can hear her fight the urge to go to her head voice, she really struggles to stay in her mixed voice until she gives up and just embraces the softness of her head voice at the end. She's definitely practicing her lower registers.
Compare it to her previous version of that song that is entirely in her head voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnohksAFbzs
Granted this was supposed to be a soft "campfire karaoke" so it was deliberate.

>> No.1609965

>>1609825
there are definitely some remarkable differences in her recent singing.
she has also been checking her posture lately, and stood up to sing.
it seems she's been researching ways to improve.

>> No.1610011

>>1609825
Each gives a very different feel, but damn is the newer version pretty.

>> No.1610458

>>1572381
All EN-anti-threads are Kiara-anti-threads in disguise. You guys are a special kind of autistic.

>> No.1610487

>>1610458
All threads* are Kiara-anti-threads

>> No.1610526

>>1609228
>People who say Gura is a bad singer or worse than their Jap oshi never have any point to back their opinion, while the other side often gives long explanation with music terms and video proofs that looks pretty believable.
Any time I mention my oshi singing I either get "hurr durr no she sucks Gura is best" or a flat-out admission that Gura fans don't watch other holos. Also this is such an obvious troll thread, I don't know why mods allow these to go on this long

>> No.1610651

>>1606747
Try Vesperbell, KMNZ Lita and Liz (they have separate channels), Fuji Aoi, Suntory Nomu, Ame-no-Sei

JOIN ME BROTHER

VSINGERS ARE THE FUTURE

>> No.1610704

>>1606747
Some talented singers on that list, but if there is one worth checking out, it’s Machita Chima. Extremely talented.
Others on the list are good but many are exclusively professionally studio recorded.
https://youtu.be/nzt7toJedMc

>> No.1610724

>>1610526
Obviously in a bait thread like this one you have to strongly defend your point and ignore the obvious trolls that don't have any argument.
People ITT have defended flare and azki and we got some interesting discussion out of it.
Also no one paid attention to the obvious troll OP and the thread immediately moved on to proper discussion.
I wish we had a dedicated music thread to share some vsinger goodness.

>> No.1610728

>>1578446
Her "Fly Me to the Moon" is really good too, sucks that she couldn't go all out on "Beyond the sea".

>> No.1610764

>>1610724
>you have to strongly defend your point
That's taking the bait. Every time you respond with some paragraph about singing talent you're just encouraging the trolls to post more. The fact that they have no argument is enough to see that.
>I wish we had a dedicated music thread to share some vsinger goodness.
Can make it any time, I'd be glad to see that over more threads like this

>> No.1610859

>>1610764
It's not taking the bait if you don't directly reply to them
Its fine if you're replying to someone with an actual argument or just make a post without replying to anyone. But that post HAS to have substance is what I meant.

>> No.1611023

>>1591666
idk , but here is a timestamp
[CURSED DOODLES] +TALKING
~2:18:00

>> No.1611334

>>1605805
her taste is mediocre, every genre you mentioned she sang a few songs of which is only entry level youtube-core and anime-core, not saying anything about white girl pop since it's inherently shit which further proves my point.

>> No.1611348

>>1611334
What would you have her sing?

>> No.1611351

>>1611334
ogey rrat

>> No.1611366

>>1610724
>I wish we had a dedicated music thread to share some vsinger goodness.
Every VSinger thread that's been made keeps dying because not enough activity. It sucks because I kinda wanna shill Kamitsubaki and Riot Music.

>> No.1611531

>>1611366
Do you really wanna put up with /mu/ anons?

>> No.1611590

>>1611348
idk, i dont like covers and singing streams in general since i always prefer the original. i would like her to sing anything she genuinely enjoys, less-known stuff preferably which helps to portrays her individuality, not something that panders to the most normie music taste. but if she only has those thing to offer then dont ever bring up her "music taste" to any discussion again.

>> No.1611612

>>1572311
She is waaaay better than C*lliope though

>> No.1611613

>260 replies
lmao chumflakes

>> No.1611658

>>1611590
>Normie tastes
>Stuff she enjoys
>Portrays her individuality

Oh boy

>You're assuming her tastes are not normie
>You're assuming that she didn't enjoy those songs to begin with
>You're assuming she didn't pick the setlists herself

Other than that I am about ready to disergard to opinion since to /mu/ fags like you "normie tastes" encompasses everything up to (and probably including) Negative XP

>> No.1611668

>>1611612
>Rapper can't sing

Sky is blue, water's wet and your oshi doesn't speak english

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>>1578162
That's not a bad thing though.

>> No.1611839

>>1572311
I just farted a few times and my first thought was that they sounded distinctly like Same's 'a'. Is this how I know I'm a real chumbuddy?

>> No.1611851

>>1572311
At least she's not a female rapper.

>> No.1611897

>>1572311
She only sings good for songs she likes. Her Pricunny stream? Complete ass. Her legendary over 120k concurrent viewer stream? I don't even have to say.

>> No.1611916

>>1604200
I wonder how much of this is AZKI's (or Sora's, for her part) own desire and not some command from on high?
Both of them could no doubt see that the real action (fan interaction, money, growth, FUN) is in the general livestreaming branch of hololive and not solely in the diva/idol part. AZKI especially was running the risk of being forgotten by all except a handful of her diehard fans in the context of this explosion of popularity.
I recall that AZKI was shared with some other company that's since gone bust so she's freer to do now as she pleases, or alternatively Cover is free to do with her as they please.
Whatever.

>> No.1611962

>>1611613
> not reading the thread
Retard

>> No.1611967

>>1611658
yeah i'm assuming if she ever has a good taste but is currently hiding it to pander to normie with normie music. but you chumbuds are convincing me that her taste is really that shallow which is fine i guess, i'd go hear some silly singing holo like noel anyway, at least it helps me chuckle a bit at the end of the day
also bringing /mu/ here is laughable, normie taste simply means anything that's easily regconizable from large amount of people. some are good, some are bad, but i dont wish to hear more of it since it get shoved regularly into my face on youtube and even irl.

>> No.1612037

>>1611612
this is a given since rap is crap and not singing

>> No.1612063

>>1611962
>actually reading a thread on this cesspit of a board instead of just shitposting randomly to farm (yous)
ngmi

>> No.1612551

>>1611916
AZKI kinda blew up since her redesign

>> No.1612730

>>1572311
Are you tone deaf?

>> No.1614752
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>>1572311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuNixp-wvWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38NQMAdIv04

Ron was popular, Miku is also popular. Gura has her niche and her voice will carry her to the top

>> No.1615857

>>1612551
Good. People were always curious about this rare pokemon secret unlockable character that she was.
I kinda wish her face markings remained more pronounced in her redesign. They're basically nonexistent.
I am glad that there's a black haired "normal" girl in the hololive stable now (mio's a wolf so doesn't count). Stands out starkly in a sea of blonde and pink.

>> No.1618466

>>1611916
Well, livestreaming is just an analogue to the variety shows that mainstream idols do. But Sora and AZKi are pretty popular in Japan, so this only really benefits overseas fans, especially for AZKi.

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1628390

https://youtu.be/bS_o6Z9rAyI

That time Gura couldn’t get through the song from Mulan.

>> No.1632424

>>1628390
But why though?

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>>1632424
>Who is that girl I see, Staring straight back at me? Why is my reflection someone I don't know?

She want to stop acting and return to her drunken past

>> No.1633024

She nailed Kiss from a Rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnmfv6RVWP4

>> No.1633917

>>1633024
Holy crap. Gura got PIPES

>> No.1637441

>>1633024
She got a bit sloppy in the middle but maybe that's because she forgot the lyrics for a second

>> No.1638602

>>1628390
Why is she so emotionally brittle? What trauma or mental illness lurks in her past?

>> No.1638697

>>1638602
Life was rough in Atlantis.

>> No.1638774

>>1572311
no clue, chumsharts always getting prissy about it

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>>1578558
>and it's honestly grating
an interesting mental quirk of English speaking Americans. they tend to use the word "honestly" right before they lie.

And while Gura is no pro, she's top tier for an amateur singer, and you're a bad troll.

>> No.1642289

>>1638602
It’s just a sad song famalam. It’s okay to cry during a sad song. Unless you’re a guy, then you aren’t allowed to.

>> No.1643013

>>1638602
She's just emotional, which is the key to being able to sing with actual SOUL (not the meme shit people use with Noel/Ame)

>> No.1643342

>>1572311
People praise her for sounding like a loli but when she sings it comes off as immature and only fits select songs, all of which are practiced to the point where she's comfortable singing them, due to her self-consciousness. Probably why she isn't famous already, since so many 4chan experts and professionals rate her so highly, and there's no way people are lying on an anonymous imageboard. She'd make a good Disney Princess though.

>> No.1647032

>>1643342
>but when she sings it comes off as immature and only fits select songs
That's a load of shit, though, you obviously haven't listened to many songs by her. The rest of your post is dependent on this false claim so it's a bunch of shit too.

>> No.1647164

>>1628390
>this
>and moon song
i feel like im looking at something i shouldnt be looking at when i watch vtubers cry

>> No.1649848

wait she can sing?

>> No.1649855

>>1638602
I don't know but it makes me want to smother her with affection

>> No.1650808

>>1633024
gura is the most romantic of all the batmans. even robert patterson

>> No.1650918

>>1643342
She usually take request on the spot though. Like that Bohemian Rhapsody.

>which are practiced to the point where she's comfortable
Thats a really dumb mentality. Whats wrong with practicing songs? How can you get better without practice?

>> No.1650948

>>1606747
If you are open to something new, Non JP chuubas that I follow who sing amazingly:
Nina Saotome (ninaninin on youtube)
Thinkerbelle

>> No.1650991

This is now a gura song appreciation thread.
Losy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqLCVG7EoTA

Sunday morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhfWPwSzBAk

Girl From Ipanema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l0k1Rrj1bM


My golden sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJWJyx7I6s

>> No.1651025

>>1650991
This was a Gura song appreciation thread from the beginning.

>> No.1651508

>>1611897
Which one is that?

>> No.1651579

how has such a lazy bait thread been active for two days

>> No.1651594

>>1651579
See >>1651025

>> No.1651601

>>1651579
Because it's actually fan thread.

>> No.1654083

>>1651579
This is Gura singing skill appreciate tread anon
The one that hate her singing is shitposter

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