/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

uhhhh

Went way higher but this is literally under a minute. This is bananas

THREE THREADS YOU FUCKING CUNTS

>Kiara art stream
>3.2k viewers
>opens live poll
>5.5k votes
Thanks for further evidence, Tenchou.

>>15709630
are they actually telling them to gather info now
btw this is ridiculous

>>15709657
First one was >>15709567 but I guess we're back to splits
which one to use?

5.6k votes in around 4 mins also wtf gooks, holokr when?

I guess it's this one

Kiara literally just called this one out hard and told her manager to look into it.

>>15709684
Hey at least the meido is doing their jobs this time

Well, we know which thread was made by a meido at least

>>15709679
Well Kiara wanted to know how many Koreans came to watch her is the reason she gave. Since the prechat was 90% KR.

>>15709735
Yea. This one.
Choice made by moderation.

>>15709742
Naughty girl, you know I can't resist poll data

>>15709744
janny picked the worst fucking OP kek

>>15709630
I hope every holo do a poll now for every stream

>>15708661
More culls.

>>15709742
>Myth does not care about numbers

lmao holokeks really

>>15709697
After NijiKR? No way fag. Better hire a KSL for HoloEN to be the main Korean holo and just work with Kiara, Kronii, Bae and Ina to push them while not touching the country.

>>15709799
That's an accusation that was NEVER levied against Kiara.
>EVER

>>15709405
Any nijifags can elaborate on this?
Did anyone check when this happened?

>>15709742
Well, thank fucking god, maybe SOMEONE will go and strangle a YT rep until a proper clear answer is given because these numbers are even WORSE than they used to be.

who started the karaoke relay for jps on christmas?

>>15709799
I'm sorry I forgot Kiara was part of Myth

>>15709630
susan why

>>15709742
This is normal, EN audience just enters streams, votes and then leaves.

>>15709799
Way to cherrypick the only Myth everyone knows does and specifically looks down on because of it, anon

>>15709794
you cannot stop the train susan

>>15709832
Mio?

>>15709827
Not a Nijifag but there is ZERO way they would fire Honma on the spot to a point they wouldn't even wait before it is officially communicated before unfollowing her twitter.

Assume someone fat fingered and did it by accident

>>15709742
Were they not aware of this until now?

>>15709742
dare I say based Kiara?

>>15709847
Explain Mel's 500 CCV, 1.5k likes stream that just started then

>>15709847
There's literally thousands of them just waiting for a discord notification to enter a stream,vote and leave.

>>15709847

Holy shit lol

>>15709742
hopefully the big clippers do this one as well

>>15709881
Kronii getting 200% participation rate and all of their numbers being down across the board may have put some pressure that didn't exist before.

>>15709742
She actually called out the 3x% korean, pretty sure she just accepted that youtube numbers are magic

>>15709742
Youtube hasn't stopped processing viewers yet

Official Nijisanji Twitter doesn’t follow this cute flower anymore and she just got a new outfit. Niji might be losing another big one

>>15709904

>>15709873
not the first time it's happened...
pic related

>>15709742
Okay so how fucking powerful was the shark yesterday? Looks like everyone is culled to a certain extent but she held a consistent 16-18k with a peak of 23k yesterday while overlapping with different karaokes and she got 35k overlapping with an outfit reveal

This was the final number before she closed the poll

>>15709881
Kiara doesn't take Susan's shit after the amount of crap that has been thrown at her. She has pretty much called it all out apart from maybe how her VoD views sometimes get cut and rock back up.

Mel...

>>15709925
Oh right I forgot about that. Is it for the better or worse?

>>15709935
nijibros...

>>15709944
HOW THE FUCK DO THEY WORK!

>>15709919
god damn it

>>15709935
>big one
She's a midget who gets terrible viewership nowadays.

>>15709967
SUSAN PLEASE SPARE MEL

>>15709935
what happened?

>>15709925
The waiting room at least processed FAR faster than any jp or En lately.
What is kiara not affected by that tough

I hate you niggers, but I just wanted to get something off my chest which I haven't seen anyone mention.
Polls aside, one of the things I remember from before the viewcount fuckery (around 2020 Sept-Oct) is that usually the the likes accumulated in the first ~10 min made up around 35-50% of the average stream viewers (for the actual content, if it became more interesting of course there would be more people and it they would decrease if it was a SC reading, but it was still the case generally for your average 2h stream). I was just curious back then as to how many people just come into the stream and immediately like it. At least it was the case for Kiara and Ame back then when I randomly noticed it. This phenomena was fairly consistent back then until Nov-Dec when the viewcount became a meme.

>Weakest EN vs Second Weakest Sankisei
Who will win?

>Last ninjas kneeling to KFP
Beautiful

>>15709925
>Youtube hasn't stopped processing viewers yet
Anon, they never will. Processing time for waiting room happens since 2020, this is something completely else.

>>15709847
Shitpost aside, I'm hoping this really brings to light how hard Holos numbers are being fucked with across the board.

..I don't really follow Niji but I'm pretty sure they have more than 106 livers right?

>>15709945
EOPs still watch JP?
Pick a narrative. They either moved on to EN or they didn't.

>>15709935
Rrat

>>15709945
Was probably holding 24-30k (pre NEW CULL) and then probably 50k+ for that Karaoke.
But that's all speculation, shit's fucked is all we can say.

>>15710006
When they end their respective streams Noel will have twice as many views on her VOD as Kiara.

>>15710015
Here is another

>>15710006
>Weakest EN
Sana inclined?

>>15710010
Anon, "last ninjas" don't pack the same punch as last samurais. Just saying.

Also: people didn't stop responding to that because they're filtering the word combination, they stopped because they got bored. Changing the sentence won't "unfilter" you or increase your engagement

THIS IS NOT DAIJOBU

Fuck whoever made this Pekora doujin. They actually included a Jun-lookalike in it.

>>15710032
You think holoJP can even come close to competing with the shark without EN viewers propping them up?

>>15709919
She called out the number being weird and told YT to get its shit together, but threw that in as well, possibly for a less confrontational motive for investigation.

>>15710051
Mel is the worst right now. 600 viewers, 2k likes 20 mins in.

>>15710022
It follows all active JP members. Except Himawari

HOW CAN I NUMBERFAG WITH FUCKED NUMBERS
FUCK YOU SUSAN

Pretty normal here

>>15710090
Welcome to Dec 2020.

>>15710022
In Japan? There are currently 107 active members.

>>15710083
Nah, she called "Jenma" and told in no ambiguous words to "look into it"

>>15710082
Yes? It's an already well established fact.
Gura is just culled, and with how EOP works they'd just watch clips lol.

Can they cultivate the box on Twitch?

>>15709799
it is literally endangering careers why would they not care you braindead ape?

>>15710081
sauce

>>15710098
>ayame
>less than 10k
>more likes than ccv 20 minutes in
>normal

>>15710066
It looks much better now, early polls are not the best proof

>>15709937

>>15710098
when was the last time ayame failed to break 10k in 30mins?

>>15709742
Man she's been popular with Koreans for a while now but recently it fucking exploded

>>15709967
Oh, the irony.
Vox had the same amount of likes, but three times higher CCV 15 minutes in while reading SCs.
I have a strong suspicion that Nijimales ate culled to much lesser extent, will try to make a systematic report.

>>15710122
drama is the only thing you can cultivate on twitch

>>15710122
Anon, moving to twitch would just change the meta from
>being arbitrarily culled and having rules selectively enforced against them by an uncaring AI that can't be contacted and have their decisions appealed
to
>being arbitrarily culled and having rules selectively enforced against them by an uncaring moderation team that can't be contacted and have their decisions appealed

>>15709873
One would assume so but they also removed her from the Twitter list of livers

>>15710081
I'm gonna need a pic of Jun for comparison here. Is he bald?

>>15710081
Nutsakis utterly forgetting this is not the Pekora general.

>>15710138
385626

>>15710167
Nijimale audience are female, and they probably didn't watch vtubers that much so they are not labeled as bots

>>15710183
>but they also removed her from the Twitter list of livers
Source?

>>15710157
If you're wondering why, this is the reason
https://youtu.be/7Rf2gMW_Mvo
Scope that viewcount

>>15710181
>culled numbers on Twitch
I have never anything like this. If anything, Twitch will inflate their numbers.

>>15710167
Kuzuha's been hit pretty hard, NijiEN looks pretty normal overall compared to NijiJP

>>15710081
>>15710138
>>15710187
>>15710188
Kys

>>15710187
Still numbers >>15710191

>>15710122
Twitch is worse in multitude of ways, only bonus is bigger visible number but with their sizes it will stall their growth since them moving there would literally embody "Big fish in small pond" thing

The number of Koreans going into Kiara's stream just from a clip should tell Cover that they should release translated clips and not just english ones

>>15710221
>I have never anything like this.
I am not talking about "culling numbers". You are aware they created a whole "ghetto" (Hot tub section) to cordon off streamers they didn't like, right?

>>15710119
Latest snapshot was on Dec 24 and it was following all 107 at the time.
Speaking of which, what kind of autist checks the number of followers on an official twitter account every day to find this shit?

>>15710231
Hey I was joking
But sorry for that, will not feed the schizo again

Sauce for the Pekkers doujin is 385626

>>15710120
I'm saying she said both, since both numbers were equakly interesting for her.
She called attention to both, while implored her Manager to look into the Korean thing, though I'm sure the Numbers also stuck out quite prominently to her in particular, as it should in this case.

>>15710260
Korean clips in general are just better edited than the english ones.

>>15710211
https://twitter.com/i/lists/1071754025471664128?t=Zk2yURTDDJ17_Vj4Zz1Rrg&s=09
Also 106 members

>>15710269
>what kind of autist checks the number of followers on an official twitter account every day to find this shit?
That's not how weaponized autism works.

It is not one autist doing that, but a hive of some 300 autists paying moderate attention to numbers and this sort of things out of which one of them stumbled and spread the message to the others

>>15710128
They will literally get the same ad revenue though.

>muh sponsorships
We can only assume this one but ccv is probably not the first thing companies look for.

>>15709873
Didn’t she have her single released recently too?

>>15710269
I have no idea, I checked all the niji threads around these parts and this place is the only place to bring it up too.

>>15710304
>ISRAEL
What the fuck happened

How the fuck reddit work because i tried to post kiara poll in lsf but it doesn't work?

https://youtu.be/N5ib4YCpPxY
same thing happening with vspo

>>15710324
they will suffer mental damage from it

terrible post
think twice before typing

viewer numbers are everything when it comes to live streaming

>>15710291
I-Is that Hikakin?

>>15710140
>Ayame
>99% JOP fanbase
Of course she will get hit hard

>>15710274
Kys loser

>>15710304
Nah, I maintain someone fat fingered this.

This would be too much incompetence even for a vtuber company

Welcome to Hololive Himawari

>>15710346
They have minimum karma requirements, also obligatory kys.

>>15710338
someone check Himawari's twitter, it might have gotten suspended or something

almost 4:1 ratio!

>>15710337
Anon probably saw it on a matome, we don't know when it was unfollowed though

>>15710346
I'm experiencing second hand embarrassment from this post.
Please don't post Kiara there.

>>15710376
Someone fat fingered the exact same liver on both the twitter followers and the list?

>>15710391
She is not suspended but she doesn't follow Nijisanji's Twitter as well

>>15710081
Which one of you faggots

>>15710391
last post was 5 hrs ago, so things are still normal

>>15710412
I don't know if if you accidentally block someone on Twitter they both get unfollowed and removed from your lists, maybe that's what happened.

>>15710144
see >>15709964

Can it be vtuber viewers being flagged as spam bots because of spamming emojis and 草? Niji males audience is new so they are not being culled.

>>15710398
I don't gave fuck about reddit, i just want to see the glorious numbers again because this actually pain to me.

>ayame failed to break 10k
it's over anons, isn't it?

Nakirium in effect, she got more peak viewers than Suisei

>>15710434
Oh great, someone go make a split thread so that rrat breeders are contained.

>>15710472
>7.7k Ayame
Ojou-sama... Not like this...

>>15710472
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahah
Take me back. Back to before the 2nd GREAT CULL.

>>15710463
Sure but I'd rather you didn't expose my oshi to that trash, use somebody else. Or better yet, do something more productive with your time, there's surely better ways to achieve your aims.

It took Ayame about 30 minutes to beat her waiting room (which was 7468)

>>15710472
it's over... ayame couldn't even break 8k after 30mins...

>>15710451 (me)
Yeah, you do. It's likely either the official account or Himawari accidentally blocked the other one (probably Himawari because otherwise the nijisanji account would have noticed the error and followed her and added her back)

Suisei is a stable 9-10 on nearly everything.
Ayame is a stable 10k on anything.
It's fucking broken.

>>15710472
MiKorone is stealing everybody's views, retards!

Last time Ayame didn't get 10k was Papers Please last March

>>15710472
I wish this shit had at least affected everyone equally so we had a new baseline, but of course fucking youtube pajeets are way too incompetent for that.

>>15710553
You normally get 120k people watching holo at peak time though. Where are they?

>>15710252
Twitch is also better in multiple ways. Better video quality, more active communication with partners (every Hololive member has had Twitch monetization from the beginning), more viewer interaction tools, such as plugins overlayed on top of the video etc. Not denying that YouTube is overall a much better fit for HL though

What does channel analytics track anyway? Do they track CCV too? Because it'd be weird if I was a top Holo getting 20ks on average, and one day seeing my streams failed to get 15k for the past few days, but there weren't any significant differences in the analytics

If only Google bought Twitch too

>>15710573
Drinking?

>>15710553
35k is nowhere near enough to affect other people's views during primetime, or at least it wasn't...

>>15710261
they didn't do it to cordon them off because they don't like them. They did it to protect titty streamers from people complaining about them breaking TOS constantly and never being banned. Twitch mods are some horny motherfuckers who have always been on their side for better or worse.

>>15710587
Views and subs gain is the first think you'll see on overview. CCV below that.

>>15710553
That's only 35K views retard! There should be more!

>>15710577
Twitch also provides sponsorship opportunities directly in the app. You can browse through offers which are akin to "stream our game for 2 hours, get x dollars / viewer / minute". For a lot of Twitch streamers that's their biggest revenue source.

>>15710616
In their dreams lol, Twitch is safe and sound under the lap of the great and mighty Lord Bezos I

>>15710663
It only tracks peak ccv

>>15710633
>they didn't do it to cordon them off because they don't like them. They did it to protect titty streamers from people complaining
kek, and that's exactly what they would do to japanese vtubers if they EVER got any enough notoriety in the platform to dominate the charts

>no, we're not creating a "japanese corporate vtuber" section to cordon them off, it is to protect them from people complaining about them breaking TOS constantly
>which TOS? Well, copyright infringment of songs, for once
>we didn't enforce those before? well, we still don't but people are complaining about them so we must protect them

>this decision is final

>>15710081
It literally has his name 加藤 there

Can Ojou get 10k?

>>15710577
Can they do utawaku on Twitch?

>>15710715
nah, it tracks ccv too but it's literally at the bottom of the charts.

1. Views, watch time and subs gain
2. Chat messages (if chat is enabled)
3. CCV

>>15710743
Not impossible but it will cut close, if at all

>>15710743
She's pretty much flatlined, it could incline again but it all depends on the whims of whatever broken algorithm the pajeets put in there

>Someone donated 5 reds to Mel
wtf

maybe it's just that the waiting room viewers are never counted instead of taking around 2 minutes like it was before

>>15710834
Low numbers activate their inner saviorfag

>>15710834
New or something? Even Aki and Roboco get akasupa often.

>>15710834
Oh it's a burger, makes sense he's less likely than the nips to know that if he wants to give Mel his life savings there's other avenues of doing that without giving half to Cover

>>15709967
Don't do this shit to Mel, Karen. She already has so little.

>Gura competed with the top Holos through a year of this level culling
N-nani!? When was the last time I kneeled this hard?

>>15710797
Twitch streamers literally watch YouTube videos for their content so in terms of algorithm fuckery should be able to as long as they delete the vods afterwards. Legally probably would have the same limits as on YouTube.

>>15710964

>>15710964
Ok we get are going to see this in every thread like faggot???

>>15710964
The first cull in 2020 affected both branches equally. JP and EN were on an even playing field in 2021, there was no cull that affected one more than the other. Pekora was genuinely mogging Gura fair and square.

>>157>>15710964
10964
Sharkie, I kneel!

>>15710964
G-Gura Samaaaa!

>>15710577
>Better video quality
Have you ever been on Twitch? Their player is complete garbage.

>/#/ shares a thread with a top delusional schizo through a year of endless samefagging
N-nani!? When was the last time I kneeled this hard?

>>15711053
10% diff, based on adblock usage differences and numbers observed. Even still, +10% on gura still ends up with Pekora ahead overall though.

>>15710727
It got cordoned because Titty bathrub streamers are considered degenerate content for the majority of Twitch users. VTubers on the other hand, won't get fucked by the normie majority in Twitch since anime is becoming mainstream to normies and they'll gladly have it in Twitch.

Look up how VShojo is doing, there are complainers here and there from the chats of the biggest streamers but the major concesus is that it's fine content.

>Schizo has awoken and immediately starts spam samefagging on cooldown

So...Kiara is mid tier Holo all along?

>>15711096
its not that bad with filters tbqh

>>15711086
Better than what YouTube is using for sure rumao

>>15711053
Remember the Minecraft fes, where Gura straight up mogging Pecker in VOD despite less stream time and CCV?

>>15711109
Gura mogs Pekora in views/video, meaning her CCV is actually higher than Pekora's

At this point we should just double all Susan counts until further notice to make up for the cull. It has more logic than whatever Susan is doing anyways.

>>15711133
If you ever looked at any other metric besides CCV she's always been doing well.

>>15711086
I've been on YouTube and seen how the slightest bit of movement makes the live2d model look like 480p. Twitch absolutely has a better transcoder. Don't know why YouTube bothers offering 4k streaming when they don't have the basics down.

>>15710964
You're aware it doesn't become real the more you keep saying it, right?

Wait a minute...

> NijiEN introduces male wave
> much more CCV than their existing branch during SEA time which stays stable after debut
> Bot-like behavior detected on one of them
> 1 month later youtube cull again, specifically affecting vtubers seemingly disproportionately

Is this Niji-Kpop overlap fanbase's fault?

>>15710219
No, I'm pretty sure it's literally this clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2sEmbFpdAc

>>15711112
Anon, titty streamers got cordoned off because they found enough success to push off established in group streamers and they forced Twitch's hand.
It was OBVIOUSLY not the community. Think about it: if they were getting a larger audience than the people complaining there was obviously support for their continued existence.

Here is a bold prediction: had Gura been on Twitch, Venti would likely have managed to create enough fuss to fuck japanese corporate vtubers in that platform (instead of being laughed off even by people nominally at her side)

>>15711157
So NJU was 300k?

>>15711053
Anon, just accept that JOPs only click on the stream to leave a like and vote in the pole and then close the window.

>>15711199
They did not get affected by the viewer cull at all.

Why is there people who deny JP not being culled first time around? Wasnt the earliest evidence a live culling of Lamys viewers while she was streaming back in 2020

>>15711218
I was actually suprised it failed to beat 200k. It was MUCH better than Koshien, seems to have generated a whole lot more buzz and had an even much wider spread audience than just "people that like baseball games"

>>15711255
JP was culled but nowhere near as hard as EN, only last samurais try to claim it was a fair and equal culling.

>>15711086
Twitch has way better video quality for affiliates and above. It's not even close. YT compression is dogshit.

>>15711255
It's just holiday debuff

>>15711255
bait mixed with cope

>>15711255
Probably because EN's CCV was halved overnight while JPs remained mostly the same.

Looping the same shit again I see

>>15711218
I'd be okay with it, honestly it was pretty good quality and Kohaku was pretty meh this year.

>>15711199
I don't know how stabled I would call it? Vox who was 4-8k during his first week has been 2.5k-3.5k for the last 5 streams.

>>15711255
Yes but once again you're not talking to "people", you're talking to one schizoid spic chumbud who is literally using 3 devices to samefag at every waking hour because he's so asshurt Pekora had Guras number all year long.

>>15711255
Why the hell are you entertaining the question as if the individual(s) in question aren't just samefagging schizo shitposters meant to rile up the (1/2) /jp/ faggots that were bitching about enfags for months on end? I can (unfortunately) see that this samefagging schizo got fed up with THAT particular anon's assmad assblasted bullshit and broke with the chance to shitpost back with this cull. Unfortunately it's devolved into completely pointless spamming that's just causing these threads to die off faster.

>>15711255
>Wasnt the earliest evidence a live culling of Lamys viewers while she was streaming back in 2020
Doesn't seem like Lamy get culled again this time so maybe she suffers the same fate with EN back then?

Ayame has gone up like 3k likes since I last checked but stayed the same CCV.

>>15711255
There is no culling. Stop coping
HoloJP is just reclining

>>15711351
Vox has shifty numbers during burgertime, like the rest of the Niji EN males.

>>15711330
"EN just reclined to half their normal CCV in the span of 2 weeks even though their VODs and likes stayed the same. Totally normal anon. Cope more."

>>15711391
Actually she's gone down again lol, Ayame below 7k what the fuck

With 8.5k being her likely peak this is the lowest attended stream by Ayame since
>2020-09-30

There are only 5 streams with a lower peak than that

>2020-07-03 :: 6189 :: 【 VALORANT 】 ヴぁろらんくいざ出陣!!!しようと思ったけどアンレートしかできませんでしたの会
>2020-07-07 :: 7116 :: 【 VALORANT 】 ~リベンジ編~ ヴぁろランクいざ出陣!!!
>2020-09-30 :: 7890 :: 【 百鬼あやめ視点 】Fチーム FallGuys Vtuberr大会!!王冠勝ち取るぞぉぉぉぉぉおお!!!【#弱肉強食ホロ弁当】
>2020-07-31 :: 8028 :: 【APEX】最協決定戦練習!ちーむはっぴーせっとおおおお~~~~!【エーペックスレジェンズ】
>2020-07-25 :: 8152 :: 【VALORANT】鬼と魔女のヴァロラントいざ出陣!!!!!

>>15710146

>>15711433
Back to the 2020 Let's fucking goooo!

>>15711383
He gets 90% of his points wrong
Cant grudgepost for shit.

>>15711433
Maybe Ayame is just not entertaining and people finally understand it.

>n-no we have the charts that prove the last cull was equal for EN and JP
>this cull isn't equal though
Do you hear yourselves?

>>15711383
Gura hates spics so I feel sorry for the guy.

>>15711509
37 26

>Gura dropped 46k to 25k
>Pekora only dropped 33k to 23k
>i-it's equal
last samurais in denial

>>15711433
glad Ayame's bot viewers are finally getting filtered.

>>15711421
8am est/10pm JST getting 3.4k for his last stream, 6am est/8pm JST getting 3.1k for his prison architect stream a couple of days ago, don't think it makes much if any difference.

>>15711552
kek, got filtered

>>15711509
37 and 26. Even adjusted for that Pekora STILL mogged Gura in 2021 and the rest of EN doesn't even come close. Gura doesn't win either way

>>15711552
it's equal but gura also reclined

>>15711426
>VODs and likes
EN fans just drop a like and leave after watching the stream for 30 sec, nice cope

>>15711133
Oh no no no numberbros what do we do

>>15711559
So does this mean that Youtube is finally culling JPs bot viewers at equal levels to EN?

>>15711552
>Gura is the only EN
Best meme. Understandable since she's the only EN with respectable numbers, but you can't use Gura as a proxy for the entire EN branch.

Enters Matsuri, 10 minutes in, still didn't beat her 549 waiting room

>>15711590
>still loses in views/video showing that the actual CCV for shork is higher
oh nyo

>>15711594
Just like JP fans apparently.

>>15711591
Is she? And maybe Pekora will also recline after numbersagi see her numbers like this lmao

>>15711632
>she's the only EN with respectable numbers
Even Kiara is mogging the shit out of JP now that they're on an equal playing field tho?

>>15711552
Nice numbers you got there, faggot. Can I have a source?

Spicschizo has two devices, there's a spineless kneelposter, a lurking Pekoschizo and a KFP.
Nice thread.

>Kiara said she was sending a poll screen shot to her manager
>EN numbers get fixed
>JP remains broken
Imagine the threads

>>15711725
>Youtube
>reacting
Anon, there's a limit to your delusions

>>15711701
Pekora literally had 46k in November 2020 lmao

>>15711645

Here are some interesting low numbers
Both JP streamers

If you reply to the insanely obvious spam bait by the spic schizo, you are literally subhuman.

>>15711645
i think this is more related to the users. There are 7 streams going on and users are probably jumping between mikorone and the others. Queues cant keep up with it now for some reason. The more streamers are the harder is becoming for they to growth thier ccv even tough engagement and likes might be the same.

Ogey, 1h in, Meru already has higher amount of likes than Vox. How hard is she culled?

>>15711725
If Gura starts getting 40k+ again while Pekora stays under 20k, these threads will be unbearable. That won't happen though because the cull is a "feature" and Susan hates VTubers.

>>15711652
Gura loses on views/video to Ayame. Still 2nd best. JP continue to reign supreme.

>>15711632
>she's the only EN with respectable numbers
Big words from a branch with multiple sub 1ks post cull

doesn't look like there's a cull here holobronies

NUMBERS AAAAAAHHHH NUMBERSSSSS
THERE'S OBVIOUS CHARTS EVEN 3 YEAR OLDS CAN READ WHY ARE YOU STILL LYING AHHHHHH

>>15711788
Gura mogged by the Oni. HoloJP BANZAI

>>15711770

>>15711788
>14.5%
I don't want to join this retarded artificial nijitranny "discussion", but heh.

>>15711788
LOW, 14.5% of subscribers

JP and EN are being affected equally by this poll, it's just that JP were already declining before the cull so the effect is more pronounced.

>>15711834
>3 January already
ogey zhang

>>15711774
Anon, that's dumb as fuck. "Queues can't keep up with it now for some reason" is the dumbest explanation I ever heard.

Think about it
>youtube is sending down the wire chunks measured in MB/s of video, earmarked and personally identified to the person requesting because that's how sending chunks of video work even if they were not profiling every user
>the same youtube can't send (fast enough) up the wire a 1k frame saying: "user that we just confirmed that received the frames for the video is watching the video we are continuously sending to his device"

On the same vein
>Youtube can update their player at a 25 frames per second rate something that is happening in real time, in in full HD, including synchronizing the audio that is sent separately
>Youtube can't do a headcount of 20 thousand users at a one headcount per 15 seconds and update the "live viewers" in the same player fast enough

Here is the thing: if youtube can send video down the wire fast enough it can send the headcount down the wire fast enough. Believing otherwise is being a retard

You know if there's anything this schizo samefagging proves it's that he got really, really fucking asshurt over Gura getting destroyed last year. What's the bet this guy actually cried while reading the thread and sputtering out "B-But the VOD views guys" for the 50th time lmao

>>15711834
>Bandori stream having only 9k viewers
Yeah sure

>>15711883
JP reclined to below EN in the span of a week? It really is December 2020 all over again.

>>15711861
Yes and Mel has more likes than him with less viewers in less time.
Also both of them already peaked.

>resort to rationiggering with Ayame to make their point
These are the final days of /hlg2/. I love it.

>SEA wakes up
>Thread instantly goes from numbers discussion to shitposting, spamming and seething niji/EN grudgeposting
SEAfaggots make cannibal african bushmen seem like the pinnacle of enlightenment and civility in comparison.

>>15711992
>Gura destroyed
Only in your delusions

Might as well be a namefag at this point, anonchama

>>15712047
>SEA wakes up
>11:20pm in Jakarta
What did he mean by this

Winning count
Suisei : 0
Ayame : 1

>>15711992
I'm honestly more inclined to think he's a falseflagger aiming at making Gura the most hated chuuba in /#/. No other explanation other than actual cognitive issues.

>>15711048
>>15711096
>>15711121
>>15711992
Please stop samefagging anon. Your samefagging complaints about spam are worse than the spam.

>>15711383
Sorry hard for me to tell since im not actually in these threads that often just enough to pick up trends and stuff. Usually dont pay attention to the threads culture and resident schizos.

>>15711992
The only thing that destroyed Gura was Susan. Pekora was beating her precull too, but the recline cope this thread pushed for so long just ended up breeding schizos who are happy to rub it in its face now. There's a lesson here somewhere, but it's probably just "take your meds".

>>15712094
It's the classic, if something you don't like happens, blame the SEA and Bugmen.

>>15712039
Resorting to views/video is already pathetic ratiofagging when Pekora gets the most VOD views in total.
Maybe Gura should stream more than twice a week.

Bakache's new outfit couldn't get 5k, her last one got almost 10k
https://vrabi.ml/video/460R9ydCqTA
https://playboard.co/en/video/f7b1RaVHU54
Nijis are getting culled hard it's just people in these threads don't know what their usual numbers should be

>>15711974
>>Youtube can't do a headcount of 20 thousand users at a one headcount per 15 seconds and update the "live viewers" in the same player fast enough
i mean just looks at kaira poll. 5k votes and she doesnt even have 5k views
they can do streaming fine but counting how many connections are in one specific laps of time is different and seems that is going trough some validations before hand. So either they are hiding views or dropping user as we see in the waiting room or whatever caching they have is fucked beyond belive now.
i dont epxect them to be accurate but i expect them to be consistent.

>NA woke up
And there goes the thread.
Time to watch some comfy Mikorone and fuck off until tomorrow.

>>15712189
If I were him and blaming SEA and bugmen would give be a solid 80% chance of being right I'd blame them too.

>>15711672
>1:29.56
>4:53:50
Nice try

>>15712198
Tick tock nutsaki. Your days of dominance are done, you'll have to cope about total views or some other irrelevant bullshit now.

>>15712154
Fair. It's been really annoying when combing for USEFUL info to come across 100+ posts of schizobullshit.

>>15712219
Except we know shark schizo is a self hating spic

Is it possible Susan is only counting Mobile users for its CCV and not desktop?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>48,177: Korone (Hololive)
>43,714: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>17,002: Fubuki (Hololive)
>16,441: Rushia (Hololive)
>14,556: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>14,435: Pekora (Hololive)
>11,871: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,097: Fubuki (Hololive)

>>15712262
FBKing... I kneel...

>>15712262
I've gotten so used to seeing 20+ names on this list

>>15712229
>Gura gets the most VOD views so she's the best because of all the ads
>oh no I actually mean PER VIDEO nobody cares about the total number
ogey

>>15712262
Delete the post fast

>>15712262
We were so close NijiChads! Mikorone I kneel today ONLY!

>>15712262
it slipped? AHAHA

>>15712311
Reclining Rabbit

>>15712208
>counting how many connections are in one specific laps of time is different
How is it different? They know how many devices they are sending the video stream down to, that gives them at very least a ceiling.

>i dont epxect them to be accurate
Again, that's dumb as fuck. I don't expect them to be accurate too, but because they're the new breed of pajeets that displaced the original engineers that built the site in the past

>>15711645
H-how do we save her?

>>15712311
Ayame beats Gura on views per video anyway so sharkfag is completely pincered. JP wins on every single metric, he still can't win

>>15712229
>total views
>irrelevant
Holy cope

>>15712129
Suisei is playing with people with 10k ranking or higher

>>15712262
Bro, you forgot to include the rest of the 10k list

>>15712321
>I kneel today ONLY!
I don't know, does Nijisanji have any event planned for tomorrow?

Otherwise it may require a new kneel to the duo tomorrow

>>15712262
>Only 8 10k+ streams
I'm going to cry

>>15712262
It feels kind of nice that getting 10k is a genuine achievement again

Here have this,

>>15712344
>They know how many devices they are sending the video stream down to, that gives them at very least a ceiling.
they obviosy dont, they get a request but they obviously are validating more from each request than just it reaching their servers. otherwise it would be easy to viewbot youtube videos.

>>15711209
you're VASTLY overestimating the bathtub streamers' numbers
the only two who really got decent numbers were amouranth and indiefoxx and even these two's CCVs were a drop in the bucket compared to the actual big players on twitch

>>15712420
So basically vtubers just go Prestige mode every year and need to build their numbers back up before resetting for a new grind?

>>15712262

>>15712355
You are retarded, anon.

>>15712423
That's not proving jackshit though. Gura's audience is global so they're simply catching up to the VOD.

>>15712383
No that's why its only today, we got fuck all tomorrow I think. If we haven't got a horse in the race then I don't give a fuck.
No point in caring if the numbers are already known for us NijiChads

>>15712262
>can't even make a top10

>>15712420
It's like a return to the old days.

Kiara is proposing an idea of hololive wide rap battle
Excepted numbers?

>>15712423
From the mouth of Pikamee the average view watchtime is under a minute, those are worthless

>>15712262

>>15712496
>early 2020
>return to the old days
No anon. This is the old days.

>>15712423
>Gura gets more toddlers clicking her stuff and watching for 30 seconds
Yeah, we know

>>15712480
>>15712518
Remember the Minecraft fes?

>>15712383
They have participant lottery for the mahjong tourney later today. It should get decent numbers, but with the cull who knows?

>>15712455
>it would be easy to viewbot youtube videos.
It used to be, that's why they spaghetti coded this mess.

The problem is they are culling more legitimate viewers than bots now.

>>15712549
Holy cope.

>>15712499
It depends how is it prepared, if kiara is the one organizing it I don't expect really high numbers.

>>15712549
Children like watching other children what else is new?

>>15712576

>>15712543
akua...

>>15712499
20k max with how youtube is right now

>>15712579
spaghetti code is from pajeets and blue hairs being the entire workforce now

>>15712549
That's an awful cope when used to defend Pekora's toddler audience.

>>15712543
niji killer...

>>15712499
Calli was already planning a rap battle. Once again Kiara has to put ME ME ME all over it.

>>15712576
>VOD cope
I knew you were the guy shitting his pants all year long about that lmao

>>15712690
>cope
It's the only more or less valid metric left.

>>15712690
>cope
it's reality, time to accept it

>>15712262
Only 8 videos over 10k with 3 being FBK. Wow not even a top 10, that's just fucking pathetic and depressing.

>>15711199
The bots were targeting vtubers because luxiem kpopfags were botting their streams????

Susan what in the fuck

>>15712690
Well we can always use dowsing and tea leaves (AKA CCV) if you prefer, anon.
Iofi has 20 squintillion CCV

>>15712576
They hate this chart because it accurately gauges popularity, and what kind of content is popular for each channel.

>>15712262
>No solo stream or even duo collab hit 20k
Gura!!! Save us!!!

>>15712796
2020 numberfagging watame would not survive this

>>15712840
>amount of 1 mil
Untrue. It just gauges the ability to push certain content to 1 mil and well basically your second half.

Kanae with the first 10k of the day, flatlining near that mark for about an hour before briefly crossing it.

It seems to be his first time playing it too.

>>15712840
>They hate this chart because it accurately gauges popularity,
Does it? How about this part here?

>>15712576
Are you able to do the same graph but for VODs created within the past 6 months? Would be interesting to see recent popularity

>>15712933
Imagine being mogged by Moona

>>15712933
>Shark schizo proves EN is a failure
Fuck fuck fuck SHUT IT DOWN

>>15712262
It's time to start adding 5ks to the top 10. 5k is the new 10k.

>>15712888
I've been a Watamate since before she opened membership and I've never seen her this low, there's at least 2.5k of us that will watch every minute of every single 8 hour superchat reading. This is ridiculous

>>15712933
It shows song popularity, in order. What were you trying to prove?

>>15712926
>flatlining near that mark for about an hour
This is one of the weird things that keeps happening, it's always just before a big milestone that it stalls hard

>>15712229
>Cope
As if. This thread make me believe Pekora was always a shitter so I have nothing to cope about

>>15712990
I start to feel sorry for you for not being able to face the reality...
It's ogey...you can keep lying to yourself if this makes you feel better

>>15713016
Fucking Ollie has a 1 mil vod
Does this mean she's equal or even more popular than most of EN?

>>15712933
I enjoy how Mori is conveniently cropped out because it doesn't reflect well on your argument

>>15712840
It really doesn't. For example, it puts in disadvantage who prefers to make shorter but more frequent streams like FBK, just to name one of the most obvious faults.

>>15712940
Stream VODS with 1 million views within the past 6 months:

Pekora: 7

Gura: 3

Kind of shocked at this to be honest. Less than 10% of Guras VODs with over 1 million views occurred in the past 6 months, almost all of them are from the start of the year. On the other hand Pekora's almost all come within the past 6 months, the only ones that don't are Peko Mama, her first collab with Moona, the reveal of her prison costume and a collab with Marine.

This strongly indicates that Pekora was far more popular that Gura in the second half of 2021 and continues to massively grow in popularity as Gura declines.

Roberu? More like Mogeru. Go son go!

I am more interested in what Cover gonna do now that JP get lower number overall compare to EN. Will they keep giving JP preferential treatments?

>>15713113
Yeah? She's got like 900k subs. What a fucking stupid example to choose .especially since 1 is within outlier territory.

>>15713168
>main branch
No shit. Also stream more Council

>15 posts from the same schitzo complaining about shark schitzo
Is it just burger hours? When should I come back?

>>15713168
They've always had the real numbers and always knew that EN was outperforming JP but that didn't stop them from neglecting EN in favour of boosting their second string JP branch all through 2021

>>15713168
Anon, don't be an idiot.

>>15713168
Disband HoloJP
We don't need those midgets anymore

>Ayame and Suisei both below 6k
Never thought I'd see the day

>>15713202
>They always
How much is your voice in your head paid as a Cover intern? I'd like a job there too.

>>15713168
Their vod views is still the same though. That's the important part.

>>15713199
You know ENschizo first day?

This thread has just gone 10000% schizo with bald-faced shitposting since CCV is so utterly broken right now (and perhaps forever, given YT's track record).

>>15713202
Gura is literally the only EN above Kanata tier.

>>15713168
Reminder that Chloe made nearly as much as all of EN combined last month

>>15713238
At the very least I hope this is ringing alarm bells at Cover.
Not like anything will get done on Youtube's side but an anon posted before that Youtube support essentially told people reporting the problem to shut up since they're not the channel owners.

>>15713143
But that's not even true, why lie about something that's so easily disproven? Also, peko's VODs are mostly in 200k-400k territory.

>>15713269
Rumao Rumao

CCV is broken, Holo are in the dumps and yet Nijis can't even use this chance to dunk on them because they're that weak.
Fight back, come on. JP vs EN is getting real tiring.

>>15713119
Kek pretty hilarious nitpick though

>>15713143
>use only my specific time frame
Doesn't work that way anon. Especially since people keep watching Gura's VODs much later, like how a VOD from 5 months ago is at 999k right now, and it was at 950k weeks ago.

>>15713327
>Can't even beat Kiara
LMAO

>holocucks

>>15713260
Could you clarify, ESL-sama?

>>15713330
Problem is, there's very good evidence that multiple Niji livers have ALSO been afflicted. Kanae seems to have (thus far) only been affected partially, but Kuzuha, Mito, Lize....even TOYA have all been hit in noticeable ways CCVwise.

>>15713267
Nah it just devolve into Pekora vs Gura AGAIN. Both of them just can't catch a break

>>15713323
It is true. Go count them yourself. Pekora has 7 stream VODS from the past 6 months above 1 million. Gura has 3.

>>15713327
Bro that's not fair, you're not meant to use CCV anymore, you're supposed to use Kanata's amazing VOD views that completely mog HoloEN... oh

>>15713370
This bait is so poorly made I wonder if it's actual bait. Is this bait baiting me to bite a baiting bait to not make me realize that this baiting bait is actual bait?
What a good bait.

>>15713345
It's not even true, since Peko's only 1m VODs within 6 months are just her outfut reveal, Jump King finale and sports festival.

>>15713327
Strongest gen 4 right? That's it?

>>15712262
>after eceleb collabs vshojos are starting to pull more than post cull holos and nijis
A future too grim to look at. I know comparing twitch to yt is pants on head retarded but fags will start doing it

>>15713439
Wow this...really put into perspective how big Pekora is compare to other JP
At least the relative placement is still essentially the same

>>15713426
Lol no. If you count her new cover, it will be 4 total.

>>15713466
>gen 4
Coming from a HoloJPfag, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
What low bar.

>>15713445
Why does Mori love Nijichads so much bros?

>>15713439
Pffff

>>15713455
It is true, her Jump King streams all got 1mil +

Kinda to see most of 1st gen stream at the same time…

>>15713518
gen 1 means sub 1k I guess

>>15713345
>Kizuna AI having the most VODs above 1 million means she's currently the most popular vtuber
The point is to gauge recent popularity. The fact Gura has a lot of old VODs above 1 million doesn't tell you how she's tracking right now and the fact that 90% of her VODs over 1 million are older than 6 months indicates that her popularity was higher in the first half of the year than the second half. On the other hand most of Pekora's 1 million VODs come within the past 6 months, indicating inclining popularity. From this data we can clearly see Pekora was far more popular than Gura in the second half of 2021.

>>15713143
Bah. If you want some actual context for some of this, know that Gura was basically sidelined for pretty much an entire month out of the second half of the year.
Between having to deal with family shit (twice) and getting sick, she really got smacked with the (BAD LUCK: REAL LIFE) stick pretty hard. DESPITE that, she still managed to get the vtuber fastest to 1 mil Cover (with Calli's help yes but nonetheless...).

>>15713445

>>15713536
FBK is gen 1 too

>>15713505
Sometimes I just wonder nijikeks IQ in their narratives when you can clearly see 2 holos in that pic LMAO

>>15713505
Mori loves anyone with any semblance of clout.
Ollie is just desperate to get dicked by anything that isn't an Indo.

>>15713517
It's funny how those specific streams are so popular while rest of her VODs are 200k-300k average.

>>15713499

>>15713537
You're delusional, anon. Pekora has NEVER been more popular than Gura or Kizuna. Time to admit CCV isn't a real metric.

>>15713634
I'm using VOD views though :)