/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

pls don't bully the goblin

>>15693640
Well at least she's actually a really good streamer, one of the very best ENs out there. It is actually-ironic that she was hired to sing but is considered just decent at it and surpassed by tons of other random Holos.

I mean she shouldn't necessarily feel too bad about it I wouldn't think, she isn't actually a pro singer, just self-trained like Gura etc. So it's more like on Cover's bad for not really knowing how to promote/utilize her as the "vsinger" bit in the West. It doesn't really work like how idols in Japan do so they are kind of clueless and seem to be wishywashy trying to halfway appeal to Japan still by having a bunch of Japanese singing for her.

>>15693753
Shes still one of the best singers, but her songs dont have meme appeal

>>15693753
Her singing voice is extremely soulless, but apart from that the her music is also just generic saccharine upbeat J-pop which just isn't popular in the west

>>15693975
This.
The reason people claim gura/suisei/Towa are great singers is really just because their voices have character, they add flavor to whatever they sing.
When Irys sings, it just sounds like generic anime music

>>15693640
It's really not too different from the numbers AZKi and Watame originals get

>>15693753
After listening to Gura since she debuted and listening to as much as I could of Iris singing anime shit, I've come to the conclusion that Gura is a pretty damn good singer and I prefer her. Iris is probably fine if she sung better songs.

>>15693640
It would probably help if myth members promoted Irys like they promote each other. I've listened to Sparks a few times now even though I dont watch Kiara just because other members talked about the song, but I've never heard of this Irys original song.

>>15694484
That's what she gets for not being in Myth

>>15694171
Unfortunately, Irys seems to really like that music. Of Irys tried to make find her own style of music, it might be better. Things like her intro bgm would be a good start. I think it matches her really well and would probably sound better of she sang to it.

>>15693640
Did you know that she earned $178k in SCs for the past 6 months that she was in Hololive? That doesn't count membership streams where she gets a pretty sum of SCs as well nor her membership earnings. If she is given control over what she can release as a cover or even as original music, she would have released more MVs by now. Probably in a twice a month output. Whenever you click any of her MVs, what you get recommended are her streams not her MVs because those are the ones that gets the most engagement. It isn't really a debate if she's a good or great singer since everyone knows that people will listen to crap. All of this are besides the point though, her fans will buy her music and that is good enough for Cover to keep funding her. They fund fucking holostars of all things.

>>15694840
Anon. She likes a lot of things and has sang different things on archived and unarchived. She actually has been singing more unarchived recently.

>>15693640
what has happened in your life that has made you bitter enough to post this thread?

>>15694417
reflect isnt a particularly stand out song yet it has many views due to meme power

>>15693640
Maybe its autism, but I feel really bad seeing many of the Holos post original songs or covers on their channel and having barely any views or just about equivalent views compared to their generic gameplay streams.

Must take a lot of effort and people-work behind the scenes for the songs, but maybe Cover takes care of most of that process?

>>15693640
Project HOPE for the best

>>15695036
That's less than what Chloe did in a single month, though ?

okay but has anyone listened to the ame song? it sounds like processed dogshit. also it's a christmas cover and only relevant for december

>>15695364
The managers help with coordinating. The girls foot the bill

>>15693640
Irys is the cover equivalent of a game developer creating a game with esports in mind.
And they did it three times when will they learn?

>>15693640
Her trash model is holding her back, too uncanny. Don't even consider to Hololive.

>>15694241
Watame, AZKi and IRyS have the same problem that >>15693975 described, except for the "extremely soulless" part.

>>15695447
Anon. Chloe is the exception not the rule. Stop making retarded examples. Her performance monetarily is still within the Top Half performers for Hololive for all of 2021

>>15695520
never

>>15695642
anyone that is still saying soulless are threadreaders. I can't even fucking watch other Holo's karaoke sometimes because of how fucking good Irys is. If the girl is not singing at least half her caliber, I just leave. Unless they are memeing I won't stay.

>>15693975
>>15694171
You people are such faggots

"HUUURRRR SOULLESS" "HUUUURRRRRR THEY HAVE CHARACTER"

You are just making shit up that has no meaning because you are a hater. Go fuck yourselves faggots.

>>15695753
>>15695780
cope

>>15693640
song is trash, like the previous ones
they need to hire decent composers and lyricists and get something good out for a change.

She's number 1 in my heart and that's all that matters

>>15695780
Fuck off retard IRyS sounds like someone is crushing her windpipe

>>15693640
They should have pulled in Shannon or MarieFD for the IRyS role. Their voices are far more unique.

Maybe the J-Pop originals come off as soulless because of the composition of the song. But she belts on covers. Fukai Mori, Soul Sister, or any of her stage tune covers come to mind.

>>15693711
Fpbp

Nene inclined after the new default
Subaru inclined after she drops her default completely
Design matters
Remove Redjuice

Why is it that every time a VSinger is discussed the threads always read the same regardless of the VSinger in question, muh soulless, muh generic, muh numbers, well ackshually, etc etc...

>>15695477
Yeah, it's a Christmas song released near Christmas, therefore it got big numbers

>>15693640
Flopmelia Flopson is supposed to be one of the most beloved and popular ENs - certainly the most popular here. First solo cover, and it's a universally beloved and famous Christmas classic. Still only at 200k views ... where did it all go wrong? She averages maybe 3k viewers. Why have teamates stopped watching her?

>>15696792
Her content attracts kiddies. Likely lots of dead or casual subs.

>>15696792
She averages more than 3k viewers lol. Nice try at baiting though. Average she is at 7-10k, consistently top 3 in Myth. You probably are looking at the out of context yearly average which isn't even close to the truth.

>>15695780
truth

>>15696696
Model is undeniably a debuff regardless of the people that unironcially like it. No new outfit. No new outfit. No holiday kimono like even Gen 6 got. 2D debut to not offended Myth while Myth won’t promote IRyS at all. I love my oshi but it’s lame to see her get treated like the middle child of EN.

>>15695204
reflect as song as itself is a very good song, unfortunately it doesn't highlight the best of gura's singing ability.

You people are just so sad that you only value things by clicks.

/vt/sisters need the rope

>>15696792
Most of her genmates didn't retweet her song and she isn't known for music while every other of her gen are known for music. Also the fact that it kinda got overshadowed by Gura. And what killed the song was it was in English, so no Japanese are gonna listen to it over again. Gura's song also seems to attract the worst fanbases of them all -the Koreans. Same logic applies to IRYS song, overshadowed by Gura and it's in English. EOP are willing to listen to Japanese songs because fuck understanding lyrics, but JOP will not listen to English songs unless Gura sings it.

>>15695753
i won't deny irys is an extremely good and well trained technical singer, they are many many many good singers like that out there. but to stand out, you need something unique, and unfortunately many people don't find irys' singing uniquely good.

complete management clusterfuck for both irys and ame releases, completely massacred by gura's same time release. for shame.

Wake me up when there's a metal vsinger fuck futa coochie she sucks

Feel free to screenshot this. 2022 will be the year of IRyS. You nigger can fuck right off with your "muh soulless" bullshit. Fucking gura of all people stopped giving shit in her recent karaoke. Her new year relay is a snooze fest so don't try to act superior

>>15697176
>JOP won't listen to english song unless Gura sing it.
I know Gura is a good singer but holy fuck she is not that godlike for you to be able to said that. If that was the case, no JOP would listen to any other holos who sung english song.

Wasn't Mori supposed to be the big singer talent of EN? What happened?

>>15697417
Unfathomably based

>>15697474
???? That was an old song used in HoloAlt PV, why would people listen to that again religiously?

>>15695204
It's a catchy song, plus it's a personal song for her so it comes off as having soul.
Irys' songs haven't been that catchy except for maybe Here Comes Hope. This is important for her because her singing is usually quite 'safe' in that she hits notes accurately but doesn't put that much of her character into it aside from it sounding sweet and nice. Maybe if Irys tapped into her personality more (like her fun and goofiness or her random moments of eros, she has a strange ability to randomly shift from one to the other), it might have more appeal. Otherwise she needs to just get really catchy songs to cover. I don't think she's going to have much success doing sweet sounding safe stuff.

>>15697567
not on english channel it has scary not english letters.

Remember most of the EN fanbase are EOPs who are too fucking lazy to use Google Translate/DeepL to do basic title translations.

>>15697474
Mori was established as a content creator and rapper but she’s really had to work hard with her voice lessons to improve her singing. Listen to IRyS mog her on the collab then listen to Mori’s New Years relay. Big difference and definitely improved.

>>15697613
no bad irys couldn't create music as good as mori

>>15697474
No, she's supposed to be a rapper.

>>15697474
>Comments turned off
>Unlisted when you go to her channel and check videos
The fuck happened here?

>>15697417
there is not a single song of her have made it into 2 mil views. She is EN member with supposedly huge buff. I wonder why?

Irys should drop that jpop shit and do an original eurobeat song

>>15696792
She literally can't sing and didn't advertise the song at all
it's a Christmas shitpost that does better than the professional singer's serious original song

She has a good voice it's just that cover pairs her with garbage producers and songwriters for some reason. her newest ENGLISH song was written by a fucking jap of all people ffs.

she's undeniably one of the best en streamers though so she has that going for her

>>15697695
Caesura did over a million in 6 months. That counts for something.

>>15697656
Mori music has only gotten good since she accepted being an idol and backing off rapping. Her bts and creation ability was impressive but her actual rapping was below shit tier by western standards.

>>15697656
irys job isn't to create music, it's to sing

>>15697772
has irys written her own songs? is this why her music is soulless?

>>15697839
She made her living off singing for a long time as well. High quality, professional, and consistent are desirable to most people looking to pay singers.

>>15697844
Check her songs description anon

>>15697836
western rap and its standards are dominated by dogshit, so the further it is from that the better.

>>15697772
And that's why every EN's originals outside of Mori fucking blow chunks, cause the girls go to Cover to ask for a songwriter, and Cover has virtually no contacts with English songwriters. Mori's the only one to consistently and primarily produce English songs, because she writes the lyrics herself. EN originals will always be shit as long as Cover continues to go straight to Japanese songwriters.

>>15697923
help us all and give us a small list of competent "english" songwriters then retard

only a mori x irys original will give hope

>>15698054
Mori should produce something original with Suisei before lowering herself to collabing with HACKrys

>>15697915
Her flow has always been sound cloud rapper level at best. There are 2view rappers with more authenticity, coolness, and, well, soul than any rap Mori has put out.

>>15697695
yes, supposedly huge buff such as, polarizing model, being the "vsinger" (see AZKi's number), seer pressure of debutting alone after the immense success of myth, le omegay lore, incompetent cover never fail to find the worst time to release her songs. geez, massive buff

>>15698076
Can we get DeathStars collab with Suisei x Moona x Mori first?

>>15697971
That's not my fucking job now is it? Get back on it, Mr. Tanigo.

>>15697923
you don't need to bother too hard with the lyrics, sounding good is more important than having engrish and other ESL in the middle of the song if you're marketing to weebs

>>15697804
That's fucking pathetic for an EN song and it's her magnum opus

>>15698076
Go listen to MoRiYS karaoke collab and for proof of Mori get mogged vocally by Irys. It would be cool to see her produce for Irys though.

>>15698131
Kek, did Yagoo even retweet her songs?

>>15698131
Azki kinda justified having low numbers because she almost never stream unless MC with Sora or Karaoke. But Irys is no different than other EN members with how much she streams compared to Azki and that is a buff itself.

>>15698161
I just want to see her drop a catchy song with good promo. Something like Violet.

>>15697804
Dude even Shart Challenger, the biggest flop, hit 1m faster than that

Lamy's first has reached the OP's numbers in a few months. So I don't get why you're going END OF WORLD because in two days they didn't hit a million.

>>15693640
ame has that novelty bonus going for her
it's like seeing a dog sing, you don't expect it

>>15694171
Suisei's voice has no fucking character, she's only popular because she fits the image of a tryhard idol to a T

>>15698676
Not hard when the GayFP are told by, no sorry, demanded by Kiara to boost the views on YouTube and told exactly how to do it.
Quite pathetic I think

>>15698746
Maybe IRyS should do the same then before Cover graduates her for being a failure

>>15698710
This, no offense to susie because she IS a tryhard idol but please don't pretend like her singing is anything special to your run off the mill j-idol.

>>15697915
Western Rap > Japanese/Korean/whatever else Rap. I'm sorry, but every time a Japanese song has rap, they amazingly still manage to find a way to make it sound like J-Pop.

>>15698803
There's a reason why she kept getting rejecting by idol agencies and originally rejected by Hololive, because she she isn't a good singer or have a good voice for it at all.

>>15698791
Might as well graduate the entirety of homostar if IRyS is considered "a failure". You scared of her curb stomping your oshi in the future?

>>15698873
>Might as well graduate the entirety of homostar
Yes.

>>15698791
>Cover graduating someone for being a failure
Ah you had me for a second their anon. Good one here's an upvote

>>15697474
>>15697686
>>15697686
It's youtube music, it's an autogenerated video created for every Holo original song and not an actual release. It doesn't even show up among Mori's channel uploads, has no premiere, won't show up in subscription boxes etc. You may as well numberfag with these as well if you're going down that route (don't, it's retarded).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wToRgQzYAA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WGNic2YVqM

>>15698791
>graduation
Not happening when you still have Sana and other holos with lower numbers, in any case they will move her into a normal vtuber contract and move on.

>>15698791
That’s why she spent half of December recording for Cover. Shit bait threadfag.

>>15693975
>>15694171
This is complete bullshit. You have never listened to any of her Karaoke streams. If you're strictly going by recorded shit, cover overproduces literally everything. It's not a representation of the singers voice. Like the Mori/Gura King cover that is literally drowning in autotune.

>>15699030
Cover didn't produce the Mori/Gura KING cover and that's hardly 'drowning in autotune', at least not compared to some other egregious examples like Gura and Matsuri's Sorairo Days cover or Country Roads.

>>15698803
at least she produced some bangers, her singing being okay/good depending on how you want to classify it, plus releasing her own songs that are catchy and have a story behind them is a huge boost.

>>15698921
I see, I am 15687686 btw, thank you for the answer

Now I know why it is like that

>>15698791
>Literally the hardest working most entertaining EN
>Graduate
Not gonna happen

>>15699071
>hardest working EN
Mori
>most entertaining EN
Gura

>>15699061
Fine. Releases/produces/put out. idc what you call it. it all sucks to varying degrees.

>>15699030
Her singing and voice talent is completely wasted by her favorite genre of music ---generic J-Pop and anime like music. When she sings english songs during her karaoke, she sounds amazing, but when she does Japanese (literally 100% of her songs she sang in this language have been J-Pop), she sounds like literally every other hololive singer who sings J-Pop. Great talent, great hire, squandered because she prefers weeb shit.

>>15694171
Gura's part of King cover is full of advanced vocal technique shits, like you wouldn't believe, and that's just one song. she is definitely a very talented vocalist.
doesn't help that some people are blind by the 'popular thing bad'

>>15699030
This thread is loaded with people who have never listed to her karaoke. Seems she will never shake the antis circle jerking over her model not being generic anime or loli.

>>15699111
I don't think (most of) what Suisei and Mori put out is particularly overproduced, which may be part of why their stuff is so popular. I think Mori's latest original with Taku Inoue and Ibasho were the only examples of Mori solo songs with a lot of autotune, and the production of those songs weren't up to her.

>>15699163
IRyS was the fastest growing holos in temrs of subs before gen 6 until she hit a wall, her model have nothing to do with it. Her music is just not that good.

>>15699196
>Her model has nothing to do with it.
She was inclining despite of the model. When she first debuted /jp/ and /vt/ completely chimpped out over the model. She would be over 1 mil with Kronii’s model.
>Hit a wall
Definitely correct. December was all medical issues and homework plus Gen 6 debuted. Hoping she gets back on track in Jan.
>Her music is just not that good.
HCH is a banger but otherwise I agree. It I don’t think she’s a song writer so until Cover does their job and gets better production for their talent she won’t have a multimillion view breakthrough original.

>>15699163
I visited hers and Kronii's once. Never again i will ever listen to them outside of accidental clicks and maybe one view everytime she release covers or originals

>>15699098
>Chumbud
>Deadbeat
Every fucking time.

Thats what happens when you cheap out on rigs.

She is nerfed by her shit taste in music. Nobody fucking likes J-Pop.

>>15699136
>>15699984
Sparks of Joy is an english song and it's still doing badly

>>15698833
She's come a long way after receiving singing lessons. If you still think she doesn't have a good singing voice, you're just a deaf faggot.

>>15694171
>Gawr "Hamsterdance with a ukulele" Gura
>Great singer
I know we're trying to shit on IRyS here, but lets not pretend Gura wasn't trying to hype up and defend Country Roads Myth version

>>15700059
I wonder why...

>>15700059
Being google translate'd into English doesn't make it an English song.

Well Irys is an upgraded Kiara in every subject, but that doesnt mean she is the most amazing thing ever

So I listened to that Sparks of Joy song, which I never took interest in before and it wasn't better than I expected. This is generic pop tier from the way it's mastered to the way the end result sounds, I can barely hear any detail of the voice or anything at all. Here Comes Hope wasn't any better, I actually thought my headphones had somehow broken overnight and I had to listen to something I was familiar with to make sure they were still working. This is straight up bad music.
These songs really needed on point mastering to sound even remotely decent.
Listened to Reflect from Gura for the first time too, that one sounds much better. Not because of the mastering though, more like despite it.
If you wanna know what I'd consider good, try AZKis Take me to Heaven. There are plenty of technical things for me to moan about, but the people who mastered that get it. They know what you're there for.
Or maybe Feel Alive by DJ Fox feat. AZKi. DJ Fox knows what he's doing too.

They'll need to have her sing something actually good and she needs to project her voice better. If she does it at all. Her voice sounds weak. At least she's a good variety streamer.

>>15694484
There are more Myth girls promoting IRyS' song than Ame's.
Ame promoted others' songs more than everyone in Hololive, but when it is her turn only Kiara & Anya promoted it thru tweets.

>>15697176
So why does Calli have songs with millions of views when they are all in english?

>>15698710
>she's only popular because she fits the image of a tryhard idol to a T
Stop being a retard. She's popular because her songs and voice are good on top of being a good streamer. If IRyS wanted she could do the same thing.

>>15702472
100% sure you don't listen to Cali. Most of her songs are not in English and some of the ones with English have a lot of Japanese in them. And the most popular ones aren't J-Pop which is why EOP loves them (me included). In other words, stop with J-Pop/anime shit.

>>15702771
>Most of her songs are not in English and some of the ones with English have a lot of Japanese in them
Mori has one song that's majority Japanese (Ibasho), the rest are either clearly majority English or completely English (End of a Life, Red, guh). She's also the only Holo to release English translated covers of Japanese songs (Roki, Envy Baby).

>>15700059
It's an English translate song sung to J-Pop.

>>15702771
Most of her songs have a couple of Japanese words. Some have a sentence or two. Only one is fully Japanese. The vast majority of her lyrics are english.

>>15702211
Irys retweeted Ame's MV as well.
>>15702662
Suisei got a lot of boost because of well timed events that made her viral like her 3D debut. Her 3D concerts that coincided releasing her new singles. Also making covers of songs that the algo favors like the 3rd Gen collab cover she made. It's consistent music output while also doing 3D concerts events while also streaming 1-2hrs 2-3 times a week. Her actual incline started going ham during her 500k 3D concert and then going hard again on her 3D Ghost concert. Irys can pretty much do the same but she doesn't have 3D yet. Majority of HoloFans watch 3D events. JP, EN and ID. You don't really have to understand anything for it.

>>15700059
Sparks of Joy is textbook JPop Idol. It was just sang well with a singer that can speak better English. If you didn't have subtitles on, you probably won't understand the first half of the song because of how much words were squeezed in. The lyrics should have been written an English Lyricist. The instrumentals for it is decent if you listen to it. Irys sang really well on that song and was very sweet and warm but it all gets drowned out by how much words she has to sing.

>>15695642
Don’t forget sui too

>>15695477
Ame is good at other things. Singing is just not one of them, and it's a bad idea to push her into doing it and setting her up to fail. Even ...Ina... can be an enjoyable singer even though it's not really her strength, but Ame should avoid it and game more instead.

>>15702771
Imagine going on the internet and telling lies.

>>15698710
>>15703313
Suisei being a tryhard because she dreams of being a great singer but can't actually do it on her own f- this fits her lore and character, so why criticize her for roleplaying? Hell, she should botch some songs intentionally just to make it fit.
What would make Sui stand out better is focusing on her other hobbies and interests aside from singing. She's a comet, a shooting star, so she should do some stargazing and astronomy streams with her fans.

>>15697176
That is flat out wrong, tons of JOPs listen to English songs. Hell, some JOP vsingers will actually sing songs in languages they don't even remotely understand like Italian or Latin. Or English for that matter.
Language is never an actual barrier for music. It's only a barrier if there's no value to the music other than what they lyrics say.

>>15702662
>Stop being a retard. She's popular because her songs and voice are good on top of being a good streamer.

Brother this is cope, “she’s bland yet attractive” is her character to a T

>>15697804
On a fully animated short MV that released at debut

>>15697923
But Kiara approached Kira herself for Sparks.

>>15693640
kek

>>15703687
And Sparks sucks, what's your point ?

>>15703644
a fully animated MV with all these people working on it has 1M views, vs
a JPG with 12M views

>>15703376
Unfortunately, Cover is still a traditional japanese company and a backwards idol company, so if she doesn't sing when they do a 3d concert (which is inevitable, every JP gen previously has done this) she will be forced to graduate.

>>15695655
>Chloe is the exception
Iroha made more than that last month as well.
>within the Top Half performers for Hololive for all of 2021
Actually it puts her in the mid 30's for the year.

>>15693640
I dont dislike her but i think she was a bad pick for the vsinger spot, for someone who had to focus on music she have very basic music knowledge, cant play instruments and cant write songs or just bad at it. Very bland personality for someone that had to debut alone, she a ok streamer at best. I think she would be a great normal holo chuuba if she debuted normaly and with a decent model.

>>15703966
If Noel can get up there and squeal out a song or two for a concert then Ame can do the same.

>>15703890
The only thing that sucks is your taste

>>15703592
Stop being a retard
>>15702996
Her incline started around her 3D debut

>>15693640
What's going on here

>>15702472
Because this is Mori's world we are all just here to bare witness to it.

>>15704969
This. March 2020 was Suisei's month.

>>15693640
Both of those have views that are par for the course for their regular streams, so basically all the regular watchers plus maybe some of them replaying it once.

The actual songs are opposites of one another:

Ame's is fairly unique take on a well known song. Not the most pleasant to listen to but interesting.

IRyS's is a very generic original. Her singing is much easier on the ears, but I honestly can't remember how it goes 10 seconds after it ended.

Cover needs to hire a good music producer. Forget competing with Nijisanji, there are 2views with way better composition to sing to, like this one for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvhXvqERMks.. IRyS would have no problem singing pretty much anything they can come up with so why aren't they trying something a bit more interesting?

>>15699174
in both cases it was intentional to reference specific song styles, InoTaku just pulled it off much better

>>15696471
her Fukai Mori and diorama performances from Calli collab really slap

>>15697804
Mori's original with a Cover funded MV hit 1M in 5 hours (!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RxlzJWWzdY

>>15693753
Not really. She is very shitty as a streamer, compared to most vtubers from other branches/agencies/indies. She just looks good in the contrast with other HoloEN who are the lowest of the low in streaming department.

>>15693975
I don't know what extremely soulless means

Her karaoke of Soul Sister, Your Reality, and One Last Kiss are good enough to add to my general playlist. That's pretty impressive to me given it's not done in a studio. Luckily, these don't have mistakes or commentary mid-song, as often happens in karaoke.

>>15693975
If you hadn’t invoked “muh soul”, I’d agree about the genre. Almost every time soul is brought up, it’s tied to the poster having a preference for their oshi or some flavor of attachment above any critical thinking.

>>15707301
>compared to most vtubers from other branches/agencies/indies
Try being specific, faggot.

>>15695364
Don't feel bad for IRyS as the Vsinger all of her music work has Cover footing the bill since all she does is sing the songs that get released. Everything else gets handled by management.

The truth is that IRyS isn't focusing enough on making good original music. Trying to blame cover or her fellow hololive members for her subpar numbers is stupid because she's the one that should be ensuring the quality of whatever she puts out and promoting her hard work beyond the announcement tweet.

>>15697135
it is as a "rhythm game song" because gura wanted and original song in a rhythm game. like i said, meme power

>en vsinger
>first songs are japanese
>not even on her own youtube channel a holos main avenue for fans
Cover fucked up

>>15693640
Irys / Namirin seems like a very nice girl IRL.
It just seems that with her daily addition of Diet Coke, I get the feeling that she is going to get diabetes sooner or later.

And she would have to undergo kidney dialysis every week....

>>15693640
>no sovl

>>15716663
How do you get diabetes from something that has 0 sugar?

>>15698139
Why not just include Ollie and Rushi as well?

>>15702900
English cover enjoyer who is learning nippongo here,
That's actually my favorite part about Calli, and I would also like more ENGLISH-language songs from the ENGLISH channels.

>>15704969
>Stop being a retard
>Can’t counter my argument

Just sit down

>>15721992
>argument

>>15722132
You’re actually retarded kek

>>15703966
Every bad singer from JP sucked it up and sang anyway. It is an idol company first and foremost, so they gotta sing and they gotta dance and that is the end of it.

It's not hard to see covers doing better than originals because more people are familiar with it. If you want to see an original that did poorly not long ago, check Choco's channel. Her collab with Mel has only 49k views after over 9 days. Divide that by her current 795k subs and only 6% of people subbed to her watched her MV if we assume they at least watched it once. If we account for those who watched more than once and those who watched that weren't subbed to her, than means that less than 5% gave a shit to watch a collab song, which should actually get more people coming from Mel's audience to watch as well. Which means, realistically, that would put it that 2% of Choco's fans, 2% of Mel's fans and 2% who aren't subbed actually watched the MV at all.

I wanted to like Sparks of Joy, but then Tenshi no Agape dropped and completely mogged it.

Sorry IRyS, diorama is still good though

>>15721992
There's literally nothing to discuss, you are just wrong and what you said is not an argument

>>15695563
Her face creeps me out as much as I love hrr personality

>>15718198
Diet Coke still has few bits of it.
What she needs to look for is the variant with Zero Sugar (a.k.a. Coke Zero)

>>15724384
I don't know what kind of diet sodas have calories in them, the ones I drink have 0. There are plenty of other stuff like sweeteners, "flavors" and acids that could cause some other problems though

>>15724091
>you are just wrong and what you said is not an argume

Yeah arguing with you is a waste of time

I think there should be a new board for vtuber fans, and this board could be reserved for people like OP.

>>15725320
Argue

>>15723392
Something to keep in mind, if this follows the same track as Choco's original, ChocoLove, it is gonna get a sizeable bump from uncounted views/likes in about a couple months.

For whatever reason, Youtube has an extra strength hate boner for Choco and not only culls her CCV but also culls VOD and Likes too.

Her original song was stagnating 2 months after release at a mere 90k views and 11k likes; then suddenly jumped up to 178k views and 23k likes overnight. Obviously not earth shattering numbers but a far different story than the disaster of the prior numbers.

I wouldn't be surprised if this song also got a similar gigantic boost overnight sometime in March.

>>15719548
No, i don't like Ollie

To all secondaries,
Daily reminder that your whore of a oshi will never be able to compete against the renai circulation cover.
t. IRyStocrat

>>15693975
>>15694171
>muh soul
The biggest cope of the century right here

>>15726514
Maybe, but caesura of shit isn't high bar to beat let alone all her cover songs irystrokeks

>>15693640
>747k subs vs 1.57m subs
OH NO NO NO

>comparing vtubers with millions of subscribers to Irys
Where did she touch the mythtards to make them act out like this?

>>15727480
La globlino makes trash music. Deal with it

>>15723392
One of the big reasons Covers generally speaking do better than originals is because usually the Holo's YT channel is the ONLY place to listen to it. Whereas for originals the numbers get split up between all the different platforms it gets posted to (pic related, and this isn't even including iTunes and a few other platforms). Not saying it's the only reason obviously, but it's something to keep in mind.

>>15727480
Would you prefer a comparison to someone closer to her like Towa, where she'd get absolutely stomped even harder?

>>15739351
she doesn't make any music, that's the problem
she's given a bunch of garbage to sing but has no input into the product. like any of a thousand pop singers for the last 60 years, just a pretty face and a nice voice over a commercial product
that's the difference between her vs. suisei and mori or pretty much any of the holos with originals (even the ones that aren't good singers)
does she want to but can't or is she just uninterested?

It's doing better than Sora's music, so it's passed the bar.

>>15741379
Or maybe with Moona cuz y know smol branch and all

>>15693640
she has a weak tone of voice which not pleasant to listen at all
the song climax is autotuned to shit
boring lyrics, boring of a song
also vtuber's original songs are memes to begin with

>>15699135
Popular things are ALWAYS either bad or they become bad (due to the popularity)
It's the rule of largest common denominator
So sorry that you have the most basic and generic opinions and tastes

>>15701400
>AZKis Take me to Heaven
I listened to it and damn that is good.

Gura has had some really bad luck with mix/mastering, up until Reflect every other song she’s been in has been mediocre to outright terrible. King is the only other song that hasn’t been mix/mastered to shit.