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>> No.15591020

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.15591052
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>187,119: Rindou
>166,651: Rindou
>99,172: hololive
>26,208: Pekora
>20,716: Pekora
>19,720: Toya
>19,393: Nijisanji
>17,144: Kuzuha
>14,819: Fubuki
>12,185: Aqua
>12,012: Iroha
>11,380: Amelia
>10,715: Fuwa

Also final tally of the year

>> No.15591074
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15591074

>>15590836
Kuzuha VOD to compare (peaked 17k). So is the 'cull' just a bug that happens at random? Too bad it didn't happen in Pakora's case.

>> No.15591112

Kuzukek's Vampire cover

1st hour: 145k
2nd hour: 245k (+100k)
3rd hour: 515k (+270k)
4th hour: 647k (+132k)
5th hour: 740k (+93k)
6th hour: 822k (+82k)
7th hour: 890k (+68k)
8th hour: 936k (+46k)
8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)
8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)
9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)
9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)
9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)
10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)
10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)
10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)
11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)
11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)
11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)


Hours to 1 million views

Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minute

Gura - Reflect -> 10h29min
Caligula -> King 11h36m

>> No.15591132

>>15591112
that day was funny

>> No.15591138

>>15591052
Everything below NJU is weak as fuck compared to what would be expected of them, a free concert with almost every big Niji liver performing doing big numbers doesn't disprove anything imo

>> No.15591139

>>15591052
Didn’t the niji channel get 45k from the commercial break?

>> No.15591176

>>15591139
Was it a premiere? These won't rank

>> No.15591180

>>15591139
That was a premiere

>> No.15591181

>>15591139
Not a stream

>> No.15591200

>>15591052
holosisters...

>> No.15591237

>>15591176
Yeah. It was a premiere.

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>>15591052
ranking company branch author median_peak avg_peak num_streams start_date end_date complete branch
1 holo jp Nakiri Ayame 33838 43207 6 2021-12-06 2021-12-25 holojp
2 niji jp Kenmochi Toya 33360 39875 9 2021-12-03 2021-12-31 nijijp
3 holo jp Shirakami Fubuki 30508 28183 46 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
4 holo jp Usada Pekora 26670 35851 30 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
5 niji jp Nijisanji 26262 50011 9 2021-12-16 2021-12-31 nijijp
6 holo jp Houshou Marine 24527 27490 18 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holojp
7 holo jp Oozora Subaru 23523 24450 30 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holojp
8 holo en Gawr Gura 22692 30747 14 2021-12-03 2021-12-29 holoen
9 niji jp Kuzuha 22456 24388 25 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 nijijp
10 holo jp Laplace Darkness 22452 22852 41 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
11 holo jp Sakura Miko 21639 22405 25 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holojp
12 holo jp Murasaki Shion 18771 30194 12 2021-12-03 2021-12-31 holojp
13 holo jp Hoshimachi Suisei 16105 19360 14 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holojp
14 holo jp Kazama Iroha 14646 17127 55 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
15 holo jp Sakamata Chloe 14408 20492 51 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
16 holo jp Inugami Korone 13919 18163 7 2021-12-16 2021-12-31 holojp
17 holo jp Shirogane Noel 12734 15256 19 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holojp
18 holo jp Uruha Rushia 12659 16065 18 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holojp
19 niji jp Lize Helesta 12417 12214 19 2021-12-04 2021-12-29 nijijp
20 holo jp Hakui Koyori 12186 15274 57 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
21 holo jp Minato Aqua 12185 26931 7 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
22 niji jp Tsukino Mito 11803 11968 16 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 nijijp
23 holo jp Ookami Mio 11779 15143 20 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
24 niji jp Fuwa Minato 11240 12103 22 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 nijijp
25 holo en Ouro Kuronii 10830 12124 17 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holoen
26 holo jp Hololive 10749 25446 9 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
27 holo jp Amane Kanata 10642 13173 29 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holojp
28 holo jp Shiranui Flare 10249 14045 31 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holojp
29 holo en Mori Calliope 9876 13862 27 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holoen
30 holo jp Shishiro Botan 9738 11693 28 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 holojp
31 niji jp Saegusa Akina 9700 10835 8 2021-12-17 2021-12-30 nijijp
32 holo en Ninomae Inanis 9566 12623 16 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holoen
33 holo jp Yukihana Lamy 9274 9873 37 2021-12-03 2021-12-30 holojp
34 holo en Nanashi Mumei 9037 10093 21 2021-12-02 2021-12-31 holoen
35 niji jp Yashiro Kizuku 9034 9086 17 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 nijijp
36 niji jp Kanae 8838 9433 41 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 nijijp
37 niji jp Ange Katrina 8827 10125 12 2021-12-01 2021-12-29 nijijp
38 holo jp Momosuzu Nene 8429 13758 20 2021-12-05 2021-12-30 holojp
39 holo jp Nekomata Okayu 7873 9895 21 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
40 holo jp Takane Lui 7752 10154 56 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp
41 niji jp Kagami Hayato 7258 9338 21 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 nijijp
42 niji jp Sasaki Saku 6841 8500 23 2021-12-01 2021-12-29 nijijp
43 holo en IRyS 6670 7671 10 2021-12-04 2021-12-27 holoen
44 niji jp Ibrahim 6653 8528 20 2021-12-01 2021-12-30 nijijp
45 holo en Ceres Fauna 6631 7332 15 2021-12-02 2021-12-26 holoen
46 holo en Watson Amelia 6585 10130 27 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holoen
47 holo jp Tokoyami Towa 6559 9861 26 2021-12-01 2021-12-26 holojp
48 niji jp Nui Sociere 6166 6406 21 2021-12-01 2021-12-27 nijijp
49 niji en Mysta Rias 6149 7158 14 2021-12-20 2021-12-31 nijien
50 holo jp Tsunomaki Watame 6141 8183 36 2021-12-01 2021-12-31 holojp

>> No.15591285
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15591285

>>15591074
>1 hour ago
views still processing, id guess it will reach around 360k total or more, which is the same as this video of his, with the same length, 360k views, but 20.8k ccv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB-YYjvZbng
culls happen. just not the same for everyone. It also happens with pekora, but I doubt you even bothered to check it, anyways, pic related

>> No.15591298
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>>15591247
Ojou I kneel

>> No.15591367

>>15591052
39 viewers Nijinigger, HAHAHHAHAHAHA

>> No.15591376

Filtering the name of a certain Indian snack sure has made these threads a lot better

>> No.15591415
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>>15591285
It looks like King was the one who got culled harder in this case. He's still climbing and might surpass Pakora's VOD despite peaking 9k lower than her.

>> No.15591451

>>15591237
..our rabbit beat all Nijisanji one more time

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>>15591112
>8 minutes
>39 viewers
Oh nyo nyo nyo

>> No.15591507

>>15591052
So is FBKs time up again? I was expecting her to be able to milk it until the tournament but seems to be done

>> No.15591542

Kiara 8,3k waiting peak

>> No.15591559

This year really couldn't have ended any better for HoloCHADS. Nijisanji's lame ass concert got copyright struck (Hopefully it stays gone forever). Also the viewership fell short of Hololive by 39 viewers ensuring Hololive's utter domination of December.

>> No.15591593

>>15591415
maybe the cull has something to do with tabouts/inactives/whatever then, since kuzuha was just a zatsu and pekora had people tabbing in sometimes when she was close to beating sans

>> No.15591726

>>15591559
Neck yourself niggerfaggot holotrannie. Go dilate your axe wound .

>> No.15591770

>>15591726
Nijisanji is based and redpilled.

>> No.15591851

>>15591726
Awww, the Nijinigger is upset. Go watch your shitty concert to calm down........oh wait, you can't!!!! HAHAHAHA, maybe Nijishitty should have secured the permissions after all. Also.....

>39 viewers

>> No.15591881

>>15591285
>>15591415
I said it in another thread, but again, VOD views and CCV are different metrics. You can't make any assumption about CCV by comparing VOD views unless you can be totally sure that two streams have the same, or at least similar level of viewer retentions.
For example, imagine this: there are two streams A and B, assume their durations are exactly the same and they don't gain any additional view after the stream is over.
There are 10 people who watch stream A. Because they are busy, they have to take turn to watch. At any given point, there are only 3 people watching it. As a result, stream A will get a peak CCV of 3 and 10 views by the time the stream is over.
Similarly, there are 10 people who watch stream B. However, since they have more spare time, or maybe B is more interesting, all 10 decided to sit and watch from the beginning to the end. Because of that, stream B will get a peak CCV of 10 and 10 views by the time the stream is over.
Both streams will have similar views (10), but B has 3x higher CCV compared to A - yet, there isn't any culling or CCV fuckery going on, it's just different viewer behaviors.
All in all, those VOD views comparisons are generally meaningless for /us/ if you are trying to use them to speculate whether there is a new CCV fuckery in place. We simply don't have access to a lot of factors (i.e: viewer retention, watch hours, etc.) for that.

>> No.15591897

>>15591507
If the cull is right, then she's still actually getting 30k, meaning all the people that specifically only watch her pokemon 'endurance' are still watching
which, after 30 episodes yeah, i wouldn't expect those dedicated people to leave.

>> No.15591911
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* NOW HERE IS THE RANKING OF MEDIAN PEAK OF CCV FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER *
Only channels with 5 streams or more qualify. Here is the top 50
>pic related

Ten (10) comments about it:
1) Ayame once again took the whole month doing what she does best: selectively streaming at the exact moment for a big payout
2) He-Ayame closely followed her and would finish in the first place, but his last stream failed to secure 20k and he fell to 2nd place
3) Fubuki finished first in the "daily streamer" category (those with at least 22 streams in the month), outranking Pekora, Subaru, Miko, Laplace and Kuzuha
4) Out of the top 50 Hololive secured 35 positions while NIjisanji secured 15
5) Lize is once again the highest ranked Nijisanji woman with a 12k median. Mito closely follows with 11k but she lost her perfect record of never having falled below 10k recently and is relegated to #2
6) Kronii made a comeback this month and is the highest EN streamer after Gura, and the only other EN above 10k
7) Aruran is the streamer with the most streams this month with 58, closed followed by Koyori with 57, Lui with 56, Iroha with 55, Chloe with 51 and Fubuki with 46
8) 28 channels have a median above 10k, 11 above 20k but only 3 channels above 30k this month: Ayame, He-Ayame and Fubuki
9) Things seem to have increased and not only 5k doesn't put you in the top 50 anymore but 6k doesn't as well, with Furen and Baelz being cut off even having a median ahead of that number,
>And the very surprising punchline
10) For the first time in the top 50 a NijiEN is featured
>Mysta Rias
with a 6k median, ahead of Baelz, Kiara, Sana ***and Selen*** and ranking this month as the highest ranked "minor" foreign branch (meaning all foreign branches but HoloEN which is a major one).

>> No.15592017
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>>15591507
>is FBK dead
no, shes still getting practically the same vod views as even gold magikarp hunting, but youtube is tanking her ccv, i think it might have something to do with the more inactive users you have, the more theyll cull you (probably among other factors as well)

>> No.15592022
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>>15591911
Here is the chart showing the relative difference between them.
Having a NijiEN in the Top50 forced me to retool the chart because it didn't have a color for NijiEN (it had never happened before)

>> No.15592071

>>15592017
Yeah, i say it's time we move onto vod views instead of ccv.

>> No.15592142

Why are nijikeks comparing the live concert with the variety show? shouldnt they compare the variety show with the variety show for fair comparison? It's obvious as fuck that if hololive was to do a similar stream to NJU they would destroy nijisanji
BTFO
compare the intermission with hololive which got only 50k
pathetic nijikeks

>> No.15592151

>>15591881
how about this one >>15592017, all are fubukis pokemon shiny hunting

>> No.15592222

>>15592142
I wonder what a free concert on the scale of NJU would do for Hololive (at least 30 talents). I'm thinking it easily challenges Coco for the all time viewership record.

>> No.15592265

>>15591911
>Pakora's median already went to shit
Oh no no no

>> No.15592267

>>15592017
Yeah that last one makes no sense whatsoever. Viewers are ducked beyond belief.

>> No.15592305

>>15592222
>challenges Coco
I don't know about that but I don't think 300k would be outside the realm of possibility. Either way its pretty obvious that 187k on an event like that is a weak ass number. Nijisanji's tourist viewers are overrated.

>> No.15592311

>>15591911
>kuzuha below gura

what the fuck

>> No.15592330

Streams with over 2 million views
Noel 3
Gura 2
Coco 2
Chloe 1
Okayu 1
Streams with over 1.5 million views
Gura 9
Noel 6
Coco 3
Okayu 2
Mori 2
Ame 1
Pekora 1
Rushia 1
Marine 1
Lamy 1
Laplus 1
Koyori 1
Chloe 1
Miko 1
Shion 1

>> No.15592335

>Kiara's chat is twenty times faster that NJU one

>> No.15592346

>>15591911
next month the top 50 will have 3ks on the bottom if nothing gets fixed

>> No.15592361

>>15592151
Her stream was overlapping with two giants (Holo's main stream and Niji's NJU), it's possible that people were having her stream playing on background and check in here and there, which resulted in lower CCV but the same amount of views
Again, I keep my opinion that /we/ need more data after NY period is over since there isn't any conclusive, beyond reasonable doubt evidence yet.

>> No.15592383
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>>15592022
>>15591911
Here is the full ranking for December 2021 and ten (10) more comments

1) Vox Akuma, as well, finished ahead of Sana, being the second highest ranked NijiEN
2) Selen fell short of outranking Sana, and got outranked by Moona as well
3) Hoshikawa outranked Haachama, something I think hadn't happen for a long time (if ever)
4) Pomu, with a 2k+ median, outranked Elira, with a 2k- median
5) Astel outranked Finana, Millie, Petra, Nina and Reimu, along with Risu, Reine and Anya
6) Hajime was once again the lowest ranked NijiJP because the other low ranking didn't stream five times this month to be ranked
7) Hana Macchia lost another position and fell to #3 in the NijiID ranking, trailing Bonnivier Pranaja and now also Mika Melatika
8) With the absence of Bora Nun, Bonnivier Pranaja from NijiID now also outranks the highest ranked NijiKR, Roha Lee, by a healthy margin
9) Aruran, despite having the most streams by any of the streamers of both companies, is the lowest ranked Hololive Productions member

and the punchline
10) The only NijiEN girl that is not outranked by ALL of the NijiEN boys is Selen, still ahead of Shu Yamino and Ike Eveland

>> No.15592401

>>15592311
Only because of those collabs held in her channel after the outfit reveal.

>> No.15592440
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15592440

>>15591911
>>15592311
>kuzuha below gura
OH NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

> WHERE IS YOUR KING NOW, KNEELFAGS!

>> No.15592445

>>15592361
hm maybe, then lets hope she keeps playing pokemon for another week and that those vod viewss dont change, then we can tell whats happening with the ccv

>> No.15592462
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15592462

>>15591911
Lots of people seems to have choked these last few days. The only winning move was not to play.

>> No.15592490

Kiara 10k

>> No.15592509

I'm really looking forward to January's list if this new 'feature' stays.

>> No.15592577

>>15592383
>4 out of your 10 points are discussing NijiEN
Anon, when talking about the final top 50 list you shouldn't spend so much time on pathetic midgets. Hell, you shouldn't have brought them up at all. I can see where you priorities lie Nijinigger.

>> No.15592645

>>15592577
>when talking about the final top 50 list
The Top 50 discussion was >>15591911 and only one point was about NijiEN

The one you link is the "midget cup"

>> No.15592651
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15592651

1M+ VODs up to this year

>Gura has more than double the 1M+ streams as second place (Pekora) and has the highest total followed very closely by Marine
>Suisei has almost double the 1M+ songs (including the 10M+) as second place (Mori) and also has the record for 10M+ songs
>Marine's shorts farm views like crazy and nobody else comes even close to her in this category
>Overall JP3 has the most 1M+ VODs followed by EN1
>Choco technically has a 1M+ VOD but it's on her sub channel and i'm only counting main channels here, so no music topic channels either

>> No.15592665

>>15592361
ehh i dont know, fubuki always has to go against heavy overlapping, only difference today was that it was in single channels instead of 10+ individual ones

>> No.15592690

Let's put some more numbers here
Lamy just got her 2nd shiny Magikarp within an hour. Can your oshi's LCK stat beat her?

>> No.15592691

>>15592383
>Hoshikawa outranked haachama
Surprising... How did that happen?

>> No.15592709

>>15592577
midget fighting is funny and not like there are any surprises in the the top 20 outside mysta who has like only 10 streams.

>> No.15592743

Unironically I believe the cull has stopped.
Because Kiara is getting more CCV than her christmas karaoke with the 3D walfie model.

>> No.15592873

>>15592743
Stop using EN numbers to judge a cull that's clearly affecting JP more

>> No.15592919
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15592919

>>15591911
>>15592022
>>15592383
And here is the hololive median for the full year of 2021, with

>Pekora being the sole one with a median ahead of 30k
>Marine, Laplace and Gura being over 20k
>Aqua, Miko, Subaru, Ayame, Korone, Chloe, Rushia, Iroha, Shion, Suisei, Koyori, Haachama, Kanata, Botan, Kuronii, Inanis, Mio and the Hololive Main Channel being over 10k

>> No.15592931

>>15592743
More data points needed.
I'm beginning to lean to the theory that viewers outside the typical audience region/language are more suppressed. This would explain why HoloJP and HoloID (look at Moona's latest unarchived for example) are most affected while HoloEN and NijiEN and NijiJP seem more normal. It doesn't really explain JP indies though so yeah no fucking clue.

>> No.15592932

>>15592743
people believe that the culling doesnt happen/is very weak at EN hours, in comparison to JP. Could even be some asian server fucking up, who knows

>> No.15592940

>>15592873
Lamy is getting 10k too.

>> No.15592948

>>15592743
She's getting less CCV for this than her German karaoke months ago, and that's with the boost of this being a big branch wide event. Plus if you look at the numbers overall Christmas karaoke was a debuff to pretty much all the ENs.

>> No.15592965

>>15592691
Haachama deliberately filtered out her audience with absences and lack of a stable schedule or a regular "programming"

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>Relay buff
>Can't break 15k

>> No.15592969
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15592969

HoloPro (Hololive + Holostars) combined CCV and watch hour graphs for 2021.

Some notes:
- Coco graduation peak really sticks out. Pre-graduation buff is also visible in the peak graph.
- HoloX debut buff was huge for whole Hololive. Especially compared to Council debuts in August which barely made any difference in the graphs.
- Hours streamed was slowly trending down the whole but HoloX debut restored the streamed hours to January levels.
- Not counting the HoloX debut Hololive audience size seems very stable at monthly scale. HoloX debut did increase it but it remains to be seen how much.

>> No.15592978

>>15592743
Relay event hype. Unfortunately some of the bigger hitters later on will get fucked by overlap.

>> No.15592980

>>15592651
hopefully in 2022 gura gets making shorts like she said she is going to

>> No.15592989

>>15592743
I'll hold off on any proclamations. If it really is a cull then my own assumption is its a bug in the pajeet code that probably got in there due to an update prior to the holidays. If that's the case then shit isn't getting fixed until everyone gets back from vacation.

>> No.15593013

>>15592931
Niji JP isn't normal, Toya, Kanae, Kuzuha and Mito's recent streams have all been far lower than expected, as has the main channel

>> No.15593018

>>15592931
>Moona's latest unarchived for example
Moona always leaned hard on JOP and EOP for that and
>EOP are busy these days
>JOP were at the main stream

>> No.15593037

>>15592948
Archived vs unarchived though.

>> No.15593044

>>15593013
>>15593018
Yeah as I said, I need to see way more data well into the new year to have any confidence.

>> No.15593108

Maybe a filter that treats viewers as a spam resets on the start of each month?

>> No.15593128

>>15593037
Being a part of this relay should be a far bigger buff for her numbers than being unarchived. Wish I'd made a note of her waiting room numbers, felt like it took a long time to recoup them during this stream.

>> No.15593143

>>15592967
Going 1st isn't a buff in a relay. 11k is good for Kiara karaoke. We'll see how much shifting to Sana tanks it.

>> No.15593184

>>15592931
HoloEN also has their audience spread around the world. Mori can get the same numbers in timeslots like midday or middnight jst

>> No.15593195

>>15592940
She got 16k for Pokemon recently, Lamy has been inclining lately so her getting 10k doesn't mean she's not being culled

>> No.15593209

>>15593128
8k waiting room right before it went live

>> No.15593227

>>15592691
haachama's class schedule means she's been doing like super late guerilla streams for most of her recent stuff, as well as pretty long breaks for finals(?).

>> No.15593276

I don't think anyone is claiming that EN/ID vtubers are being culled as much as JP, but there's more than likely a bit of it going on.

>> No.15593372

>>15593209
hm normally (before chritmas bs) it grows to at least double the waiting room

>> No.15593379

>>15592967
if it goes up on Sana I know some orange lady that is gonna be mad lmao...

>> No.15593452

>>15593276
Yeah it feels like last time in reverse, both JP and EN are affected but JP harder this time instead of EN

>> No.15593460

>>15592967
She's the first one in the chain, it's archived, and she usually doesn't break 15k without some really big buff either (her XMas unarchived 3DVR only got 7.9k CCV, for example)
>>15592948
Depends on which German karaoke you are talking about. Her German karaoke 4 months ago indeed did very well (11.2k), but the one after that ( This one https://holo.poi.cat/stream/iOHXsUrpi3Q 3 months ago) only peaked at 5.1k

>> No.15593504

>>15592919
FBK with almost 500 streams holy shit (and Pizza Dad is a monster but we all knew that already).

Only 18/53 had 300+ streams (pulling out council, IRyS, and holoX since they started this year).

Surprisingly Watson had the most for EN, but was still beaten by Ollie and Reine. EN work ethic doko?

>> No.15593519

>>15593460
That second one was a rebroadcast of the previous one.

>> No.15593588

>>15593276
it's easy, Youtube is just fucking with CCV to fuck up the charts for top streamers so anime woman don't make the top, the popular numberfag site that ranks them (streamhatchet) takes a BIG ratio in CCV for their final number
my guess is that they are planning on buying more female streamers from Twitch to completely erase them from the platform

>> No.15593601

>>15593519
>rebroadcast

>> No.15593672

>>15593601
...Yes? I don't know what you're implying, she didn't put it in the title but it was on the thumbnail.

>> No.15593720
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>>15592919
Pekomari I kneel

>> No.15593732
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>>15593588
and the facts are there, the ones where we have seen a big impact are those that make it on that ranking for this quarter. Fubuki, Pekora and Miko, they also have this tweet pinned, so obviously they are on YT's side

>> No.15593752

>>15593588
But who can they get that can beat the likes of top Holos in the west? Pokimane?

>> No.15593831

Kronii, Mumei, Ina, Gura and Kronii are the only ENs that'll hit 20k during this relay. Ame and Mori will get fucked over by overlaps.

>> No.15593941

esteemly unusual miko stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naRFat0NUYk

5k maybe it is really early.

>> No.15593952

>>15593752
it doesn't matter, the plan is to cleanse the rankings, the fact that they left views "untouched" means that they know that they could be in trouble if someone calls them out for underpaying someone in their platform

>> No.15594147

>>15592919
Gen 4 (with the obvious exception of Coco but she would have passed it no problem if she hadn't graduated) was the only gen to have all members do over 300 streams this year. Towa at 320, Luna at 323, Watame and Kanata at 334.

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>> No.15594258

>>15593952
but why are they like this? all they have to do stop them from mogging regular streamers is to put them on another category, aka, vtubers

>> No.15594279

>>15594258
>youtube
>making reasonable decisions

>> No.15594318

Seems like they're actually going to relay each other and the break is more of a warning zone for the next stream

>> No.15594400

YouTube will ban vtubing all together. next December

>> No.15594457

>>15594318
>warning zone
You mean a 'buffer zone', right?
So the stream is going to keep going until the start of the next stream?

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Managed to nab 12K before the end, let's see how much will stick around for Sana

>> No.15594460

>>15593732
This is a completely schizo theory that has no basis in reality. If they wanted Ludwig to look good, they could've given him any ccv they want and it would've been easier than fucking with the rest of the website.
Also, Youtube doesn't care whether it's anime or not, Youtube needs stuff that is organically popular, because Youtube needs actual real people to click on ads. There's no point for them suppressing a niche unless they think it can drive away advertisers, like nsfw videos, for example. Anime, especially Hololive's vanilla brand of anime, is not that.

>> No.15594466
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12k Kiara

>> No.15594483

>>15594400
I wouldn't be surprised at this point. Someone at youtube HQ will unironically think they are all pedos and make the algo automatically nuke animated avatars.

>> No.15594484

>>15594400
Wouldn't even be hard, just categorize all animated content as kids content. Vtubing is soft-banned overnight with one policy decision.

>> No.15594532

Let's be real, 10k for a Sana karaoke would be an achievement.

>> No.15594590

Well, that was a perfectly timed funnel by Kiara IF the viewers want to stick around.

>> No.15594617

>>15594532
She that much worse than Ame? She doesn't even have SOVL buff?

>> No.15594644

>>15594617
You're about to find out for yourself.

>> No.15594651

>>15594460
they are not "giving" or "taking away" nothing from anyone, they are just making it fucky so it behaves weird under specific conditions, the fact that the views take DAYS to be processed backs up the facts, and it's not hard to target the specifics that -popular- vtubers have to face, aka
>living in a different country
>having an extremely diverse fanbase
>having multiple languages being spoken in chat
and more, they can't just made up numbers, they have to craft them the way they want them to show up

>> No.15594666

>>15594617
she's slightly better than fauna

>> No.15594667

>>15594532
Her two karaoke did 10K6 and 14K9 (dead dog buff) respectively

>> No.15594678

>>15594617
Ame is quite a bit more popular, but she's also a better singer than both Sana and Fauna

i might be a little biased but I think that's reasonable

>> No.15594703

What is the optimal numberfag way to order a relay like this if you wanted to maximize overall watch hours? Smallest to largest fanbase size? Alternating large and small chuubas?

>> No.15594718

>>15594483
God deam it chumbuds!

>> No.15594783

>>15594644
Nah, fuck that, I'm not tuning in to find out. Sana didn't deserve my view. I will be back in an hour, not it's time to watch Lamy

>> No.15594810

>>15594718
>a chumbud caused the clusterfuck that led to the /qa/ raids
>now chumbuds will be the reason why chuubas are banned
i wouldnt be surprised

>> No.15594858

>>15594703
Bookend with your strongest talents, and put your weaker talents in the middle. Ideally, you'd also have another strong talent going right at the mid point to keep interest up.

For example, if I was organizing this (and assuming no overlaps), I'd start with Mori and end with Gura, with Kronii around the middle.

>> No.15594908

>>15594703
shilling everyone with everyone's account, just make sure gura posts something on chat and the chum discord will come watch
it's stupid to rely on the previous channel to do a proper shilling, since you only have numbers as big as your fanbase and Kiara/Sana are not the strongest if you haven't noticed

>> No.15594961

>>15594908
Better get them out of the way early

>> No.15594984

>>15594703
The Niji concert last night was a good example, you lead with someone hype but not the headliners, put the less popular and less skilled people sandwiched between people with some fans, and then end with your superstars.

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>>15592651

>> No.15595019

10k

>> No.15595036

>>15591911
>Toya fell
>Pekora above niji main
>Tokyo ghoul kneeled to ghost shark
Holy fuck that curse of a jinx

>> No.15595059

>>15594858
Mori is not gonna wake up at 4am for a relay.

>> No.15595086

>>15594651
I think that's a little bit reaching towards rrat territory. Why would YT bother making it that complex when they can just flag Ludwig account and have the system automatically give him 1.5-2x (or whatever they want) his real CCV instead? It'd have been much simpler to implement that instead of changing their CCV counting method entirely.
Additionally, changing how they count CCV will unavoidably affect many people, not just Hololive or Nijisanji. When streamers realize that their CCVs suspiciously and inexplicably dropped, they will raise a fuss - they definitely did last time. Why would YT want to do it the hard way and attract negative press? They are dumb, but surely they aren't that dumb?

>> No.15595091

>>15595059
Good point, maybe switch Kronii and Mori then. But you get my point, I hope

>> No.15595124

What was Cover thinking with the holos they put together in the NYE stream? Insane thing in the next big concert. Is it really that difficult to put groups together that people like?

>> No.15595126

>>15594703
headliner at the back with a second string right before if you want peak numbers. Spread the weakest singers as much as possible, separating them with better ones in between if you want better averages. Keep in mind, that charisma (aka SOVL) is a factor, so you can move them anywhere.

>> No.15595143

>10k people actually sticking around

>> No.15595161

>10k Sana
Maybe there's hope for this girl...

>> No.15595190

>>15595143
She's going to peak higher than Kiara

>> No.15595244

>>15595190
I mean that is kinda the point of a relay

>> No.15595276

>>15595161
Taking bets on her fucking it up anyway?

>> No.15595279

>>15594703
How good the people are at generating hype is pretty important so try to set up the one that can do it the best at the very start and have everyone fully engaged, second best one should be semi-finalist with the biggest star at the end
Try to maintain good hype levels all the way through but consider sticking in period of peace in middle(slower songs, ballads and the like, everyone there should be good though) before ramping up to finale

>> No.15595307

>>15595244
Sana is an even bigger debuff than Kiara, it was questionnable

>> No.15595308

Will Fubuki chase down Calli to 2 million?

>> No.15595314

What's prediction for Gura? 30k?

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15595370

Wait, what the fuck?

>> No.15595382

>>15595161
she's not a bad streamer, she just need stream more and with various contents.

>> No.15595424

>>15595314
Mori Ame and Gura are overlapping the HoloX outfits so i don't think they're getting huge numbers.

>> No.15595432

>>15595370
Yeah, she's going to stream over the rest of the relay, I think it's a lowkey watchalong kinda thing, but she's doing it anyway

>> No.15595536

>>15595370
yes they are allowed to overlap

>> No.15595537

>>15595424
For them, the matter is simply one of interest. The less weeb EOPs might stick to HoloEN, while JOPs and the more weeb EOPs would go watch the costumes. There might also be a chance of no audience overlap at all.

>> No.15595545

>>15595314
Should be higher than that. Her last unarchived karaoke got 32k. This time she should at least have some additional viewers funneled from the relay (and hopefully the outfit streams). Both Kiara and Sana got higher than their usual unarchived CCV, so Gura should, too

>> No.15595543

pretty great song selection from sanner so far, all fun hype songs even if she can't really sing

>> No.15595566

>>15595432
Streaming over relay is one thing, but starting a stream immediately after you ended and supposed to funnel into the next person is just a dick move.

>> No.15595607

Kronii into Mumei could be interesting since they both get pretty good CCV for karaoke.

>> No.15595623

>>15595370
She's not the onl yone overlapping the relay, anon.

>> No.15595649

>>15595545
>>15595314
shes overlapped with holox and maybe amelia, so its impossible to say

>> No.15595652

>>15595536
>>15595623
See >>15595566

>> No.15595668

>>15595370
At a glance both Mori and Gura will be overlapping significant portions so yeah this is a thing they're doing today.

>> No.15595738

>>15595668
man, today will be a fucked up day for EN huh?

>> No.15595752

>>15595537
There's also Gura starting her New Years stream in the middle of Ina's part of the relay which will probably impact Bae, IRyS, Mori, and Ame. Ame is too but she shouldn't have as much effect since she's not Gura.

>> No.15595856

Chloe is now at 556,287 yen in SC in her New Year Outfit stream

>> No.15595858

>>15594617
I wish Sana at least leaned towards her old screamo metal schtick. It would have at least made her stand out more.

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>>15595566
>>15595652
Calli did the same too.

>> No.15595969

>>15595896
>>15595370
Why is EN like this?

>> No.15596034

>>15592965
>>15593227
Definitely makes sense ngl, just checked out her views and it's definitely not the amount you'd get from just 4.7k people watching you on average
Guess her schedule is really a mess

>> No.15596061

>>15595969
Probably a condition for a few of the members to participate I guess? They have plans for today and didn't want to cancel them to just sing for 45 minutes/an hour.

>> No.15596066

>>15595896
>>15595566
>>15595652
some holoens had already promised their fanbases to do NY stuff and countdowns before kiara came up with the karaoke relay idea, so thats why many are doing both now

>> No.15596102

Kiara said HoloEn will have a collab on Gura's channel after Gura's karaoke. So maybe we would have a good number this time.

>> No.15596136

>>15595969
The relay was a last minute thing that Kiara planned.

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The daily superchat chart will be out in ~4 hours, then the December numbers are usually another 4 hours after that, then apparently the 2021 numbers 3 hours after that although these things are never published when Playboard says they will be so who knows. I'm a few drinks in already but I'll make sure I have all the data posted on time and accurate for you fags.

>> No.15596200

>>15592919
Missing Azki's last stream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsJIsLmUmX8

>> No.15596207

>>15596102
i doubt it considering that they might still end up overlapping with the outfit reveals of holoX and nene

>> No.15596237

>>15596102
>Kiara's relay
>Collab on Gura's channel
I-is this the start of Kiara's numberfag power unleashed? Are you /here/, Kiara?

>> No.15596251

Why did they start the relay with the two weakest members in terms of numbers

>> No.15596253

>>15596102
When is the last time HoloEN collab had good numbers?

>> No.15596451

>>15596146
It’s appreciated anon. Now that I got the monthly median ranking out of the way yours is the one I’m looking forward the most

>> No.15596463

>>15596251
I can relate, because I eat my least favourite part of my meal 1rst

>> No.15596563

>>15596102
new stream or the same as karaoke? Im mounting this mess of a NY playlist right now but cant find a stream after karaoke

>> No.15596620

>>15596251
I'm more concerned with Fauna, she's so bad it would have been better to just get her out of the way early. As it is I expect Kronii -> Mumei to go very well before Fauna tanks the views before handing it to Ina.

>> No.15596635

Your streamers are weak
https://www.twitch.tv/ibai

>> No.15596661
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Low numbers considering La+ is in the bath, but I guess it is 6 in the morning.

>> No.15596679

>>15596635
>250k on Twitch
That's like a 120k YouTube stream at best.

>> No.15596725

>>15596679
Never heard this cope before holy shit

>> No.15596781
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I truly believe this year is the end of vtubers. The only ones to survive will be the vshojo girls who leech off of Twitch's cliques. Hololive and Nijisanji are never going to get higher numbers than what they got in 2021

>> No.15596784

god damnit sana fill the 15 minute gap to kronii

>> No.15596837

>>15596725
I don't know, anon. You could always eat shit.

>> No.15596866

Migo with a surprsie stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naRFat0NUYk
it had 4k on the waiting room but hasnt recovered them yet.

>> No.15596879

>>15596781
Welcome back to March-April 2021 doom posting anon, it was way worse

>> No.15597051

>>15596781
I can't believe Pakora killed vtubing

>> No.15597074

>>15596866
>Morning after new year celebration and party
Looks like weak ass time slot anon

>> No.15597162

>>15596251
It kinda makes sense to me, though. Starts with weaker members (Kiara, Sana) to get the audience warmed up first. Sprinkle some popular members (Kronii, Mumei) in between to attract and retain as many viewers as possible. Finish the relay with heavy hitters (IRyS, Mori and Gura). Fill the rest with others.

>> No.15597164

>>15595190
I stand corrected, and she's not even going to fill the gap between her and Kronii

>> No.15597193

>>15597074
it is but the beavior of the growth cmopared to wiating room is what gas me

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Kronii's waiting room

>> No.15597226

>>15597164
kroni already has 10k waiting so no need

>> No.15597239

>>15597162
The point of a relay is to funnel viewers from higher channels to lower ones. No point at all if you're going to put the ringers after the runts, it's some real cart before the horse shit.

>> No.15597247

>>15597164
Expecting anything good out of Sana right now is cope. She barely acknowledged her subs and fans during this "break" then came back to do this shit.

>> No.15597249

>>15597164
To be fair I have the feeling that Kiara didn't really explain that they should do that and she just did it on her own because she's not retarded about this kind of thing. I expect most of them to end at 45 minutes though because they have no common sense.

>> No.15597406

>>15595566
The schedule for the karaoke relay was really bad

>> No.15597412

>>15597223
20k-25k?

>> No.15597452

13k waiting on kronii, I bet it will struggle to recover that live

>> No.15597482

>>15597452
Kronii will clear 20k, and what's more she'll do it easily.

>> No.15597490

>>15596200
Does Holostats have it?

>> No.15597545

>relay
>15 minute wait between each stream
Is EN retarded? It completely defeats the purpose

>> No.15597644

>>15596066
Holy shit, then just do 30 minute relays, no dead time in between, no time wasting

>> No.15597670

>>15597545
theres a bunch of overlaps to watch while you wait anyways

>> No.15597684

>>15597545
Chicken brain pls understand

>> No.15597695

>>15597545
Kiara at least did fill the 15min gap for Sana, but Sana just left a 15min void for Kronii

>> No.15597703

>>15597545
This thing is retarded, it kills the hype

>> No.15597713

>>15597545
>relay
>15 minute wait between each stream
>a person that finished starts another stream immediately after

>> No.15597722

>>15597193
Anon, you're drunk

>> No.15597734

>miko kino stream hasn't even broken 10k
lmao at the clowns saying there isn't culling

>> No.15597765

>>15597545
I had complaints at first, but they doin a good job at linking the next stream thru pinned chat

but certainly, the gap makes this longer unnecessarily

>> No.15597778

>>15597734
Unless you have something in the stream that can prove it's being culled, don't bother bringing it up.

>> No.15597886

17.5k waiting, let's see what that converts into.

>> No.15597893

>>15597765
it definitely feels too long. kiara at least went a lil over and it worked out fine. I know they're scared of scuff and all but jp did it just fine with like 27 streams.

>> No.15597944

>>15597734
the emote movements are smooth and cute. Cover upping their 3D and VR tech

>> No.15597950

A 5-minute delay wouldn't be ridiculous. I don't think you lose that much, waiting room numbers for Kronii were good.

>> No.15597978

>>15597734
what's so kino about it? just a regular zatsu with showcasing some 3d shit that they got this month and that we're already seen many times.

>> No.15598175

>>15597886
still 12k

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I don't think she's getting the waiting room numbers back.

>> No.15598202

>>15597950
Kronii didn't lost people because of her popularity, is not that there's a lot of Sanalites to bring over anyways

>> No.15598229

>its not even going to reach the 17k waiting room

>> No.15598265

>>15598198
what's the point in numberfagging such an unreliable piece of garbage.
so did these 5k people just vanish into thin air? fuck this website.

>> No.15598292

>>15598198
jesas lmao wtf

>> No.15598314

>>15598198
bots?

>> No.15598353

>>15598198
what is the point of the wait room then? why don't fucking verify them there and pass them to the stream once it starts?

>> No.15598359

>>15598198
People got tired of waiting. It's more common than you think.

>> No.15598373

>>15598265
There is no point, ccvs have been fucked for an entire year, the people posting and arguing about them are embarrassing.

>> No.15598376

>>15598198
Thanks, Youtube.

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This must be the lowest viewer number of any HoloEN stream ever right

>> No.15598409

>>15598353
stream border patrol, no spics allowed to enter

>> No.15598414

>>15597944
I think it's interesting how they've been improving everything but their studio (it still has some framerate issues).

>> No.15598473

>>15598359
6k people aren't gonna suddenly close the stream immediately after it starts, it's not as simple as oh they just got tired of waiting

>> No.15598478

>>15598198
Cool, so this is pretty definitive proof that whatever may be affecting JP is clearly also affecting EN/ID.

>> No.15598541

>>15598359
retard

>> No.15598571

>>15598473
It's not just that, you can literally watch them all gatherup in the minutes before the stream starts. Why would they instantly fuck off? It's all so dumb

>> No.15598569

>>15598407
good hopefully the bitch learns

>> No.15598572

>>15598198
It's going to be an interesting comparison of streams that go for 45 minutes vs an hour to see the effect on the next stream.

>> No.15598611

>>15598414
Anon... watch streams

>> No.15598696

>>15598611
Where do you think you are?

>> No.15598727

>>15598198
I used to think the cull was just a cope, but now I kinda believe.

>> No.15598728

Kronii 15k get
Seriously what the fuck Youtube. This should be at 20k already.

>> No.15598775

Sana's streaming too...

>> No.15598776

So does the increased culling have to do with the waiting room? Does HoloJP just have the most people waiting beforehand which is why they're most effected?

>> No.15598797

Gura is the only one going to hit 20k, isn't she?

>> No.15598798

>>15598728
Yeah 50% like ratio is impossible its probably already at 24k

>> No.15598799

>>15598407
At first i was going to say it was that one super chat reading stream mori made of spiritfarer but even that thing got 3K...

>> No.15598804

>>15598407
it had 1k people waiting.

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>>15598727
>he finally believes
good, and now repent.

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15k at the 15min mark, she might get the waiting room numbers after all, but it's taking a long time

>> No.15598839

>>15598775
she's doing an unpopular endurance stream in the middle of one of the more popular EN member karaoke, makes sense nobody talks about her

>> No.15598901

Miko's climbing feels so slow compared to Lamy but this maybe because of people visiting shrines and shit.

>> No.15598954

Okay EN got fucked over by this thing too, maybe not as much we'll see but this is fishy as fuck

>> No.15598989

>>15598822
Her Xmas karaoke gets 18k in her time slot, I think it can be a comparison.

>> No.15599025

>>15598954
Kiara and Sana seemed fine, only Kronii got fucked so far.

>> No.15599029

>>15598901
Lamy weirdly enough seems to have been hardly affected, maybe Susan knows if she fucks with her numbers again she'll get a visit from her dad...

>> No.15599042

>>15598901
Yesterday shion was almost the same.
i think the problem is coming from overlaps of people on multiple streams.

>> No.15599077

>>15599025
The more views, the more fuckery

>> No.15599102

21.2k views processed

>> No.15599128

>>15598198
didn't something like this happen to Rushia in the christmas karaoke?

>> No.15599131

someone is keeping tabs on kronii's VOD for this?

>> No.15599245

>>15599025
I know those are good numbers for those two but a relay should be relatively even ground, even Aki could get 29k for the JP Christmas relay

>> No.15599332

seems like it's leveling off, we might not hit 20k for kronii

>> No.15599336

>>15599128
Yes but to be fair her sound setup and voice were both fucked up so a lot of people bailed, this has no real reason to happen

>> No.15599337
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15599337

>>15599042
viewers already got counted only once when watched multiple povs, this is a usaken afterparty, half an year ago. When people switch from one active stream to another, the ccv will fall for the old and rise for the new one. There was also some newer example of a kanata-marine pokemon collab where marine started lagging. Post christmas is some extra-fuckery

>> No.15599391

>>15599025
Kiara's isn't as noticeable but her waiting room as took a big hit.

>> No.15599660

yup, not even gonna reach waiting room. Fuck you Susan

>> No.15599663

>>15597490
No, but according to holyzer it peaked at 6638.

>> No.15599737

SANA 1K GET LET'S GOOOOOOOO

>> No.15599743

>>15599337
this seems disadvantageous in some aspects

>> No.15599778
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15599778

Just hit 17k.

>> No.15599794

>culling isnt a thing
>10k likes for a 25 minute stream stuck at 16k viewers
roru rumao susan

>> No.15599823

>>15599660
this implies that not a single viewer came from seeing a notification and every people watching the stream already had it open before notifications started to roll out

>> No.15599893

>>15599823
And not just YT notifs, fanserver pings, tweets, everything.

>> No.15599895

>>15599778
30 minutes and she hasn't hit the waiting room. What is the goal here Youtube? Like for real what does this accomplish?

>> No.15599974

>>15599794
10k Like, 17.3k CCV right now. Seems normal ratio for EN, no? (in fact, she is having a bit less Like than she should get)

>> No.15600041

>>15599823
I don't understand it, please explain more.

>> No.15600061

>>15599974
10k in 30 min is something only gura does.

>> No.15600067

>>15599895
to kill all these pedobait vtubers. Especially Kronii.

>> No.15600198
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15600198

Waiting room get. man that sounds sad

>> No.15600229

finally hit her waiting room numbers. but 20k is unfortunately out of reach

>> No.15600333
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15600333

on her christmas karaoke kronii had reached her waiting room in 10 minutes, for comparison

>> No.15600364

Think any EN (other than Gura of course) can surpass Kronii?

>> No.15600405

>>15600364
Mori

>> No.15600451

>>15599895
It would be embarrassing for Youtube if they were dropping all that cash poaching streamers from Twitch only for their top livestream charts to be full of anime titties.

>> No.15600457

>>15600198
So outside of just a general cull is the gain being throttled? I wouldn't be shocked this is another ingenious youtube AI

>> No.15600473

>>15595566
I think a lot of them had plans and Kiara sort of superimposed her idea over everyone at relatively the last minute. This is a compromise. Also it's Sana so who gives a fuck, anyone gonna miss her 400 views or whatever?

>> No.15600475

>>15600364
Normally i would say mori but she has a stricter time limit on her because 30 minutes in and la+ starts her outfit reveal, not to mention the goomba overlap, so i my shot goes to mumei

>> No.15600515

>>15600405
She'll be against Gura though

>> No.15600541

>>15600451
i mean even ludgwig is taking longer than 1hr to rach 20k right now.
15k 44 min in.

>> No.15600544

>>15600364
Possibly Mumei.

>> No.15600559

>>15600041
usually, before a stream starts and a wait room is set up, there's people that find the stream by non-conventional means, that composes the number of people in the wait room, this kind of people are hardcore fans that WANT to be there from the literal start of the stream, something that is exclusive to YT stream
then the stream starts and YT sends notifications and starts putting it in the frontpage/recommended section of others, that's when most people join (aka, not the hardcore fans)

>> No.15600564

>>15600451
Youtube trending proved to me beyond a shadow of the doubt Youtube is fucking around and plays favorites. It's really obvious there. Why wouldn't they mess with ccv/views/etc?

>> No.15600629

>>15600198
Reminds me of the Rosemi comedy skit, took the entire show to hit waiting room. It also got delayed quite a bit and built up a big waiting room. I think that's the key to getting fucked over. Big waiting room and low incline after. You won't notice it in something that ramps up huge like an outfit reveal but something more modest that gets delayed or transferred like this relay will be hit hard.

>> No.15600641

>>15600457
as i put it yesterday the live views queues are probably strugling or doing te same shit they do with vods where they are filtering lots of things.
So streams with high quanitty of toursit or irregulars are going to strugle.

>> No.15600672

>>15600457
Youtube viewers number on the way to become bilibili level unreliable...
Do NijiEN get bad numbers than usual too?

>> No.15600675

KRONII DOING A POLL

>> No.15600680

Kronii making a poll. This will be fun

>> No.15600682

>>15600564
you can open
https://www.youtube.com/feed/explore
or this
https://www.youtube.com/feed/trending
this is what YT wants you to watch

>> No.15600690

>>15600641
>as i put it yesterday the live views queues are probably strugling
They are. They used to clear at either 2k/min or 1k/min. Now it’s 700/min or 300/min

>> No.15600725

>>15600541
now that's rough

>> No.15600738

>>15600672
Shu is struggling right now but nothing impressive yet.

>> No.15600739

>>15600675
>>15600680
sadly this won't last enough to make in impact

>> No.15600749

>>15600564
they dont mess with views as much because thats literally revenue for the youtuber. But yeah with ccv they can do whatever the fuck they want, since they dont pay by that metric

>> No.15600755

>>15600041
Let's say there are 17k people waiting.
When the stream starts those windows/apps automatically start the stream. Presuming none of those 17k close immediately that should be 17k viewers right there. YT takes a while to process them but the viewcount used to exceed the waiting room within 10 minutes or so, see >>15600333.
In addition, any of her 600k subscribers who hit the bell icon will receive a notification on the YT website or on their phones, linking them to stream. Only a small number will be active and only a portion of those will click but that should push it up a few more thousand.
In addition, YT will start to recommend the stream on its homepage and app homepage. There are a variety of people who will get these recs but at the very least they will include some people who have watched her streams before, as YT has said on their Creator Insider channel watch history is one of the homepage slots.
In addition, bots in her fan discords will ping notification roles when the stream goes live.
Some streamers do starting tweets too (Kronii didn't this time).

All of this should add up to more than the waiting room, even if there's some number of AFK/ditchers, and even if YT takes time to process viewers. That means there are probably people watching who aren't getting counted in the live viewcount. How many and how exactly YT has discounted them we can't say.

>> No.15600791

If peeps just opened the stream and let it play in the background would that make the waiting room numbers show the true viewers vs the viewers that watch with the tab open like youtube wanted?

>> No.15600807

7197 @ 1 minute Jesas

>> No.15600837

>>15600682
>https://www.youtube.com/feed/trending

Random prank channel, nigger music, some Disney thing. Holiday crafting? Natural disaster. More nigger stuff. Tiktok shit repurposed onto youtube. FNAF shit. X-Men shit.

Fucking dismal.

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>> No.15600959

the poll fucking closes after i vote lol, fuck hyperchat

>> No.15600969

>>15600837
Well let's see what's on youtube trending shall we? Scroll down a bit...

>Reacting to cringey Roblox DATING videos

I have seen too much and am forever changed. This was a mistake.

>> No.15600980

>>15600564
The live tab on the main page is really weird outside of disrespect. I don't know many if any of these channels.

>> No.15601011

YouTube should just hide live view count for everyone but the streamer

>> No.15601023

>>15600791
No it's like quantum mechanics the observer cannot interact with the system without altering it.

>> No.15601078

>>15600878
clock tits....

I'm sorry was there something else in the pic?

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>>15588103
Was looking at this and I was getting similar speeds to the image that was being posted (roughly 4-6 messages per second).
I have a 5900x so it's not my cpu being shitty either.
Meanwhile Kronii's current chat is going way faster than that chat.
>>15600837
This is what pops up for me.

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>>15600980
Lol they paid millions for ludwig and he's getting mogged by a tone deaf Gook with admittedly amazing anime boobs.

>> No.15601117

about the poll, she picked her song quickly not really waiting for the votes lol

>> No.15601157

>>15601011
So now that Hololive is reclining and Niji is inclining, YT should hide CCVs? How convenient

>> No.15601168

Based Kronii not fucking Mumei over. This gap is really stupid.

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15601174

>>15600837
#2 trend, and Gura's never hit the chart lol

>> No.15601203

>>15601087
yeah vtubers are definitely removed from the trending page

>> No.15601218

>>15601011
Unironically this. If youtube can't distinguish bots and human with AI, just don't show the numbers

>> No.15601241

>>15601157
Retard.

>> No.15601244

>>15601157
On second thought YouTube should ban all nijis from the site.

>> No.15601253

>>15601203
The trending page would be wall to wall vtubers outside of sporting events most of the time.

>> No.15601297

Bit off topic, but when was the last time we saw someone get shadowbanned? Seems like it's been a while.

>> No.15601308

>>15601203
I argue that holoEN accounts are set to japan, so they can't really trend in the US regardless if 80% of viewers are NA

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15601310

>>15601203
>11th
?????

>> No.15601353
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15601353

Alright, since the relay won't beat JPs karaoke relay
Which outfit will get the highest number? Samurai? Orca?
Money on Samurai

>> No.15601375

>>15601203
I remember seeing Risu NNN video appeared on trending page last months

>> No.15601385

>>15601353
DARK HORSE NENECHI

>> No.15601388

>>15601353
Laplus

>> No.15601413

>>15600451
If that were true, they wouldn't be fucking over Ludwig's numbers too.

I truly believe it's incompetence combined with typical Google overengineering where their software engineers convince themselves that what they're doing is especially smart regardless of what it means for anybody involved. Kind of like some of the idiotic changes of the latest Android UI putting some settings behind four extra steps because they decided based on telemetry data that some users were too stupid to change the setting back later on so they just made it harder for everyone to ever use it period.

>> No.15601411

>no link
nice relay

>> No.15601429

>>15601244
>>15601241
Seethe. Keep coping at some weird "cull" that somehow manage to specifically target and affect Hololive the most, while others are virtually unaffected or barely affected.

>> No.15601436

So Kronii funneled without gap but didn't link the stream

>> No.15601440
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15601440

Final peak.

>> No.15601492

>>15601353
wagahai

>> No.15601493

>no link
>mumei offline
nice start rumao

>> No.15601503

Ahhh put up links you dopes

>> No.15601521
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15601521

>>15601203
I set my location to Japan.

>> No.15601524

>>15601087
>>15601103
>>15601203
Set your location to Japan and that should do the trick.

>> No.15601547

>>15601429
didn't kuzuha and kanae have some really fucked up numbers recently too? i think it's mostly affecting streams during jp time.

>> No.15601551

Stupid clock, thankfully it's Mumei, people know her channel

>> No.15601558

18k waiitng for mumer

>> No.15601571

18.3k waiting room

>> No.15601579
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15601579

>> No.15601605

This Mumei waiting room is nuts. I saw 18172 and I'm sure someone caught higher.

>> No.15601607

>>15601521
Bros how can we save HANEDA, Yokyo airport stream? Also why wouldn't Kronii appear there?

>> No.15601637

>>15601521
>more wildrift from kuzuha
threads are gonna be terrible again today

>> No.15601656

>>15601308
>set to japan
risu trended

>> No.15601696

>>15601087
Isn't Ludwig supposed to be popular? He's gonna get his ass kicked by a bunch of girls with cartoon avatars.

>> No.15601708

>>15601637
my king...

>> No.15601728

Mumei also getting hit hard by the stream start cull

>> No.15601749

>>15601696
He was more of a subs guy than a ccv guy but after the hype of the switch he's trended down to like mid/high Holo level.

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EN numbers are so sad and now JP numbers are going to be sad too, being a numberfag in 2022 is going to be pure torture

>> No.15601781

>>15601696
I doubt he cares, youtube paid a lot to buy his ass for the platform

>> No.15601799

>>15601521
Pakora...

>> No.15601809

>Ibai 410k

>> No.15601820
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15601820

lol

>> No.15601823

>>15601637
That stream is in 3 days anon.
Granted this raises the question of why Youtube chose to show that instead of the literal hundreds of streams from similar channels that will happen before it

>> No.15601845

>-10k

Just pack it up. If I see a single retard posting CCVs they are irrefutably a zhang. Susan is trying desperately to kneecap vtubers.

>> No.15601877
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>Battle of the shill

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15601883

>>15601696

>> No.15601914

>>15601823
Time to start schizo rrats that youtube JP got paid by niji to put kingu in the trends!

>> No.15601919

>>15601845
cope

>> No.15601947

>>15601385
LETS GO NENECHI

>> No.15602007

>>15601914
It's all a big conspiracy to mildly inconvenience Kuzuha viewers by having them click on an upcoming stream only to realise it doesn't start until days later

>> No.15602061

>>15601781
There's still a pride thing, but I'd think Youtube would at least care to not embarrass the guy they went out and spent a boatload on.

>> No.15602105

>>15601547
They did, but the drop was small enough that it could be chalked to End of Year effect

>> No.15602129

>>15601809
all the mexians in the world are watching?

>> No.15602142

>>15599337
>implying that TV and mobile viewers do not exist

>> No.15602181

If it's any consolation, Moom is gaining her waiting room back faster than Kronii did.

>> No.15602233

>>15602181
Burgers starting to get home, she's gaining people who weren't in the waiting room probably.

>> No.15602281

>>15602181
Starts with fucking Queen and after 10 minutes its still 3k behind waiting room rumao

>> No.15602322

Why did Sana and Kiara have no issue like this yet Kronii and Mumei got fucked hard?

>> No.15602330

>sana catching 400 more views after kroni ending
>still not losing them
i think waiting rooms are inherently fucked

>> No.15602359

>>15601353
CCV
Laplus > Chloe > Nene > Iroha > Koyori > Lui
SC
Chloe > Nene > Iroha > Koyori > Laplus > Lui

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>> No.15602428

>>15601809
>515k
NA is inferior, they need drama for views

>> No.15602524

Wait EN can't get 20k minimum on all their relays.
Cover should just cut off the dead branch and grow a new one. Hololive KP has a nice ring to it

>> No.15602580

Here's what really baffles me: this is relay, a huge chunk of the audience is just jumping from channel to channel. Presumably youtube "verifies" them but a new stream starts and suddenly, oh can we trust this viewer? Hmm they did just watch another channel but let's do it again.

>> No.15602625

ENschizo took too long to come out.
ENschizo is reclining...

>> No.15602644

>>15602580
If your google cookie/account social credit score is low your view doesn't count.

>> No.15602690

>>15602625
cause everyone got shit numbers. so it doesnt really work

>> No.15602747

>>15602411
601 irrationally annoys me. I feel the need to lecture him on the sub cull. Fuck you random Jap shitposter.

>> No.15602764

>>15602644
I can see this happening, sounds like google.

>> No.15602773

>>15602428
>600k
We seriously need Spanish chuuba from Spain to stop the Ibai menace

>> No.15602815

>>15602322
IDK about Sana I took a nap but Kiara only had 8k in her waiting room so not many people got zapped. Kiara's was basically a normal stream, everyone else is getting the relay effect.

>> No.15602826

Mysta decided to do an asmr at this time.
REALLY low nuimbers 1k only after 10min.

>> No.15602845

>>15602580
They under-count viewers for member streams where everyone is paying to be there, there's really no point trying to assess their actions based on common sense

>> No.15602903

>>15602330
ASMR is kind of shitty New Years Eve content. Even if you're into it, is it really the time?

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15602984

>>15602826

>> No.15603027

>>15602984
>new year UK
why though

>> No.15603039

>>15602984
although i fucking hate you for taking a month long break with that arrogant attitude you fucking aussie, GAMBARE SANA

>> No.15603077

>>15602984
That's fucking pathetic, I thought Mysta was the next big thing?

>> No.15603096

>>15603077
he's streaming outside of his timezone

>> No.15603101

>>15603077
Remember, he said most of his viewership is from Japan.

>> No.15603127

>>15602826
It's hard to say anything about this because I don't think he's done ASMR before and it's a filtering content type.
Weird graph though, I'll check back when he's at least 1h in
https://vrabi.ml/video/Mlx0U28ImaI
For comparison, Shu's ongoing stream
https://vrabi.ml/video/7OB0c-oWLP8

>> No.15603173

>>15603077
Unironically, sea+JP vieweebase, pls undahstand.
Like asking Gura to stream during EU times, shit numbers if your core is in own fiemzone but you do shit out of slot.

>> No.15603200

>>15603101
>he said
we dont watch male stream anon...
but if that's the case, they flopped. i hope Yagoo wont fomo on en

>> No.15603208

>>15603127
shu was also extremely low and had no overlap.
it might be burgers getting ready for new year but still

>> No.15603213

>Ludwig below Mumei
Ok, maybe the cull is stil going

>> No.15603218

>>15603077
He literally just got 7k on his stream earlier

>> No.15603219

>>15602773
I saw her, the combined powers of Pekora, Gura and Kuzuha. Fused into a singularity.
The messiah of numbers, the savior of vtubers

>> No.15603243

>>15602826
>burger hours

>> No.15603251

>>15603173
Sure, shit numbers, but not less than 1/5th of her regular numbers for what's ostensibly buff content shit.

>> No.15603316

Mumei's taking a similar amount of time to beat the waiting room as Kronii did.

>> No.15603343

To those who believe there is a new cull or adjustment to YT's CCV count system, I hope that other than speculating about it here, you guys at least try to bring the issue to Youtube Twitter and ask them to have a look at it. Indies manage to get YT to admit their culls last year, but so far no one other than you guys have been making noise about this supposed new cull yet. How about making a Twitter account and do it now?

>> No.15603356

>>15603101
What's the fucking point? Might as well release another JP wave. At least it'd give them good numbers for a month.

>> No.15603379

She made back her waiting room after half an hour.

>> No.15603450

>>15603343
Anon, if they ignored the complaints last year with hard evidence, it won't be any different this time

>> No.15603460
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15603460

can they beat their nye 2021 record bros???

>> No.15603482

>>15603343
Because actual youtube streamers did it last year.
Where do you think "Is a feature" meme came from?

>> No.15603521

>>15603343
We're not even sure it's a thing.

>> No.15603596

>>15603460
I know Pitbull but wtf is Anitta

>> No.15603638
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15603638

Waiting room get.

>> No.15603648

>>15603343
There's not enough data in yet to be able to say for sure, but we'll know within a month

>> No.15603718

>>15603343
Yes, all it will take for the faceless megacorp to change the inscrutable algorithms they've been refining for years is an anon wearing a tinfoil hat waving graphs around on Twitter

>> No.15603755

>>15603343
Yes, and people started to complain for real once they had a few week of stream to confirm the fuckery last year. Give it the same amount of time. If the cull is real real, we'll have enough data to say for sure in another week.

>> No.15603854
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15603854

HoloES....

>> No.15603855

>>15602984
Jesus. The male branch really is NijiSEA.

>> No.15603908

>>15603854
Was going to post it. I fucking kneel

>> No.15603917

>>15603854
dios mio papi

>> No.15604047

>>15603854
True. HoloES could make 10% of what HoloID does with 50 times the viewers.

>> No.15604100

>>15603854
Meanwhile Nyanners sort of underperforming at 9k and a few midgets like Saruei and Vienna streaming for a few k. Twitch vtuber scene nothing compared to the tacotubers.

>> No.15604138

>>15604100
>>15603854
Nimu...

>> No.15604149

>things cover should do for maximum numbers
complain to youtube or build their own streaming platform
proper next holoEN gen (miracle gen 3 hopefully)
holoKR
holoES

>> No.15604161

https://i.imgur.com/GOom8z7.jpg

>> No.15604218

>>15604161
botsanji...

>> No.15604250

>>15604149
HoloIN, double as tech support

>> No.15604327

>>15604161
now post this on 5ch

>> No.15604381

>>15604327
likely taken from there

>> No.15604434

>>15604327
If it was made here it would had been posted already in a previous thread, so he might be a dumpers diver from 5ch

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15604482

>>15602984

>> No.15604489

>>15604161
I feel a million years old asking this but, we have animated jpg files now?

>> No.15604516

>>15604482
reimu...

>> No.15604558

>>15604489
I wanted to ask the same thing anon

>> No.15604611

can mumei make it?

>> No.15604614

>>15603854
In Spain we had the old man on the left show the campanadas on TV for decades until he retired, so Ibai got him in his stream this year

>> No.15604635

>>15604489
>>15604558
They're gifs hidden in .JPG format. Been around for a bit but not sure when it started.

>> No.15604667

>>15601353
Nene - La+ - Iroha - Chloe - Koyori - Lui-nee

>> No.15604704

>>15604482
>reimu and fina
jesas need holidays to be over already to know if we should panic or not already

>> No.15604712

>>15604489
>>15604558
anonchamas...
That's a gif with .gif replaced with .jpg

>> No.15604724

>>15604489
>>15604558
>>15604635
It's just like Twitter "gifs" actually being encoded video files

>> No.15604743

>>15604667
lui-nee...

>> No.15604783

>>15604614
What a chad, Ibai deserves all his fame.

>> No.15604797

>>15604635
It's been over a decade now at least.

>> No.15604799

>>15604635
>>15604712
>>15604724
ahh I see. Thank you anons

>> No.15604854

Still 18k after she said she ending...

>> No.15604868

the absolute state of the numbers thread

>> No.15604881

>>15604797
Yea it's ubiquitous to the point j found it odd it was being questioned and thought I was going crazy.
Then again, the fact we're getting Imgur links being thrown in here is unusual right?

>> No.15604897

Mumei bailing early, is that bad news for Fauna?

>> No.15604939

>>15603596
Brazilian singer

>> No.15604949

>>15604743
It's Kakage's chance to lift her design debuff. If Huke managed to do it with Kiara, so can he.

>> No.15604961

Fauna wont break 10K

>> No.15604998

>>15604961
oh right, she's shit. Time to make breakfast then

>> No.15605015

>>15604881
It's just people finding stuff on 5ch and forgetting this is an imageboard where we can post images

>> No.15605019

>>15604961
Her waiting room just spike over 10k. So we'll see

>> No.15605021
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15605021

So how long does verification take?
It's been 16 hours and part 1 is still at 2.3 million views

>> No.15605060

>>15604961
Probably not. She's another Noel tier singer, but she at least won't sound like she's going to die while trying to sing.

>> No.15605069

>NOT PINNED
>NOT IN DESCRIPTION
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LINK YOU STUPID COUNCIL

>> No.15605099

>>15604161
Tweet this to Youtube and ask them to investigate

>> No.15605106

>>15605069
Council doesnt believe in unity and i expect bae to be the odd exception

>> No.15605144

>>15605069
It's dumb.
These girls are dumb.
Then again, this is the very first reamlay they've ever done right?
They are all DUMB anyways though.

>> No.15605159

>>15605021
That's just how much views it has. Most likely because people watched all the way through instead of coming and going.

>> No.15605194

maybe with all this new eyar streams and holiday streams youtube servers are hitting an all time heavy load and slowing down the live viewers verification.

>> No.15605211

>>15605144(me)
Holy shit I need some coffee because I can't spell for SHIT right now. RELAY. It's their first relay.

>> No.15605216

>>15605069
As the only competent council member, Fauna has properly put the link to Ina's stream in her description

>> No.15605256

>>15605021
ended hours ago tahts the final views

>> No.15605272

2 mins to go, 14k in waiting. Let's see what happens

>> No.15605285

Another 400 views for sana shotting over niji males

>> No.15605286

>Only one akasupa and the others are members message
Faufau...

>> No.15605292

>>15605106
They believe in Unity. But their version of Unity is sitting in the same discord and chatting off-stream. They don't know anything about funneling or other box pushing strats. Somebody from JP branch should come and train them for a day.

>> No.15605299

>no funneling because 15 minute break
>no linking
>streaming over it
>overlapping JP costume reveal
Nice relay EN

>> No.15605332

>>15603343
well, >we did it last year and props to the order of shirogane for complaining for days but all we got was confirmation that yes, they did something and yes, >we are low quality spam viewers
also, like 2 weeks later they killed the biggest numberfag site that was tracking literally everything from every vtuber

>> No.15605350 [DELETED] 

>>15605286
it's fine anon, her boyfriend will take care of her

>> No.15605391

>>15605286
>one of the council members with the weakest SC game gets low amount of SC's
checks out

>> No.15605413

16k for fauna. She is another S O V L singer so it makes sense

>> No.15605416

>>15605332
Maybe we should disable adblock and start clicking on ads?

>> No.15605431

16.7k waiting

>> No.15605516

>>15605416
nice attempt susan

>> No.15605526

>-9k

Seems like 9k viewers flagged as bots.

>> No.15605557

>>15605299
...they never pay attention to JP's relay???

>> No.15605577

>>15603854
Wow Ibai got Ramonchu to come as a guest to his 3D live? I kneel.

>> No.15605599

>>15605416
just skip it. i have premium and a large portion of that payment goes to holo anyway, so I dont mind

>> No.15605619

Numberbros, if I leave YouTube unmuted, but mute my PC, I will still count as a view, right? I want to support her, but I can't listen to this

>> No.15605660

>>15605416
fuck off Susan, I will never turn off my smart fridges

>> No.15605671

>>15605619
Sapling...

>> No.15605680

>>15605619
it only counts if you leave the sound on and turn it up to maximum volume, sorry anon

>> No.15605702

>>15605619
you can just mute your browser.

>> No.15605724

>>15604961
apologize

>> No.15605745

>>15605619
lol but I guarantee this is better than Noel

>> No.15605771

>>15605745
But noel sounds better because japanese

>> No.15605778

>>15605619
right click on the player -> debug info
that's everything they send for their stats, they track the volume of the player but as far as I know, they can't track if you mute the tab or your PC

>> No.15605799

>>15605416
i always do whenever watching holo stream but always turn them back on whenever try to catch a glimpse of niji stream

>> No.15605912
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15605912

Waiting room strats are working, she might beat Mysta if Fauna finishes early

>> No.15605943

>>15605745
but noel trashed niji rock anon...

>> No.15605959

>>15605912
her peak is already better than mystas

>> No.15605997

>>15596102
She didn't, she said that there'll be an announcement

>> No.15606052

>>15605959
Nah, Mysta at 2k now, but she's close

>> No.15606124

>>15601353
based on the thumbnail, nenechi already won

>> No.15606133

>>15605943
>Noel thrashing nijirock
>Mel thrashing tokyo ghoul
>Peko blocking NJU
hall of famers

>> No.15606257

>>15605997
More shitty cheap merch that'll sell out in a few minutes?

>> No.15606273

>>15605912
So here's a juicy rrat:
It's a strong hypothesis that you don't count as a viewer for multiple streams.
Kiara's and Sana's waiting room to live counts were okay, or at least, more okay than Kronii onwards. After Sana ended (and started her new stream), there must be a portion of viewers who waiting room for Kronii+ but are also watching Sana, as proven by the graphs in the post above.

Guess who might get counted in the waiting room but never get counted in the live count, because they're already counted on Sana's stream?

>> No.15606341

>>15606257
Kiara promised that it is not merch.

>> No.15606388

Theory:
What if instead of fucking with ccv, Youtube fucked with recommendations and notifications? For example, not recommending a stream after 20 minutes? This might explain a strange plateau in the graphs. At the same time, streams like NJU might bypass this, because they have too much momentum, so they keep being recommended.

>> No.15606418
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15606418

>>15605256
>>15605159
Alright, here are the views then.

>> No.15606527

>>15606418
Is this another proof of bots?

>> No.15606574
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15606574

>>15605778
I just tested
top left, player and tab unmuted
bottom left, player unmuted, tab muted
right, player muted, tab unmuted
now, if they are sending other stuff or don't want to count it, that's another thing

>> No.15606605

>>15606418
>deleted
kek, did something happened?

>> No.15606630

>>15606605
That's just how playboard shows copyright stricken content.

>> No.15606651

>>15606418
high ccv but
>less views
>only 1k comments
Bots need to evolve

>> No.15606785
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15606785

SC so far.

>> No.15606875

>>15606257
Specifically not merch

>> No.15606897

>>15606785
Fauna...

>> No.15606926

>>15606897
She's not even halfway through to be fair

>> No.15606937

I turn off ad block for fauna:D

>> No.15606942
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15606942

>>15606418
>2020
cmon anon thats a year old. nju gained 1m+ vod views after 24 hrs too.

nju 2020
130,875 end of stream views
700k after 2 hrs
1.5m after 24 hrs
gained 1.4m vod views

part 1
499,415 end of stream views
2.3m vod views
gained 1.8m vod views

part 2
964,594 end of stream views
2.4m vod views
gained 1.5m vod views

>> No.15606959

>>15606785
It's within expectation, Kiara got the organizer buff, and her SC games is naturally higher than everyone in council anyway

>> No.15606964

>>15606785
Nice haul for Kiara.

>> No.15606998
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15606998

>>15606785
now show chloe waiting room SC

>> No.15607029

Faufau 15k get.

>> No.15607057

>>15606942
Anon, end of stream vods are always fucked up for big streams.
The general rule of thumb is to wait 24 hours until all views get validated.

>> No.15607079

>>15604482
Manjisanji burger time lol.

>> No.15607147

It will be funny as hell if fauna beat mumei no.

>> No.15607168

>>15607147
There's no way, she's already flatlining.

>> No.15607172

>>15607029
She's barely going to reach her waiting room at this point...
Man fuck youtube

>> No.15607173
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15607173

>>15606998

>> No.15607182

>>15607079
For being Nijisanji EN they really have shit viewer levels during burgertime don't they?

>> No.15607239
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15607239

>>15606785
>>15606998
jesas... save holoEN EOP san!!

>> No.15607261

>>15604482
Does it mean that there isn't actually a western audience for EN homos and it's just SEA and JP

>> No.15607274

>>15607182
They're like inverse ID at this rate, more viewers in SEA than the US

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15607278

>>15607173
JESAS that bitch is a Succubus

>> No.15607306
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15607306

>>15607182
Looks like Mysta absorbed most of Shu's viewers.

>> No.15607316

>>15607239
Sorry, I don't superchat, only buy merch and membership nowadays.

>> No.15607336

>Chloe made twice the amount the other 5 COMBINED already
Explain this phenomenon

>> No.15607355

>>15607172
I'm going to bet she won't.

>> No.15607397
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15607397

holo.poi has spoken apparently

>> No.15607410

>>15607336
findom is very strong in jp

>> No.15607441

>>15607336
la puta de hololive

>> No.15607468

>>15607336
stinky buff

>> No.15607504
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15607504

in other news, the music powerhouse of Hololive English

>> No.15607587

>>15607173
>>15607239
What site is this?

>> No.15607605

>>15607504
>Youtube Music

>> No.15607621

>>15607172
It's most likely just like anon said: people alt-tabbed and watching Sana or something else

>> No.15607651

how did it take all the way until fauna for one of them to realize they could do a countdown for the NY tick in the middle of their slot

>> No.15607688

>>15607504
why hear that version when the version with full PV is right below the option beneath it? that is assuming you arent using youtube music

>> No.15607739

>>15607621
We'll see if the waiting room problem gets worse in an hour when Gura starts.

>> No.15607748

>>15607651
She really cares, unlike the others.

>> No.15607751

>>15607173
Let's go Lui-nee! Second best in HoloX after orca

>> No.15607831

>>15607651
Did the organizer Kiara even do one? I assumed that was the reason she started the relay at the 30minute mark of each hour but guess not.

>> No.15607843

>>15607306
Fish losing to ghost? That's sad.

>> No.15607870

>>15607831
She was in the middle of baka mitai when it hit the top of the hour

>> No.15607884

>>15607504
>FGO illustrator

>> No.15607885

Yeah I don't think Fauna's reaching her waiting room

>> No.15607886

Only thing I can use to explain a karaoke stream doing worse than its waiting room is people alt-tabbing and listening in the background.

I think Pekora's viewchart vs Sans and NJU last night is pretty good proof that tab-out is a thing.
Literally 10k people rushing in to see if it's manjisanji during the talk segments and leaving when it's 3 hags.

>> No.15607888

>>15607306
nijibros...

>> No.15607928

jesus christ UK

>> No.15607945

>>15607843
Fishkins are unicorns and left

>> No.15607972

>>15607886
Maybe some people didn't realize how bad of a singer Fauna was and dipped after a few minutes or muted it.

>> No.15607987

>>15607651
Don't let her shitty singing and the fact that she publicly announced existence of her boyfriend fool you. Fauna is actually smart

>> No.15608003

>>15607945
how are they unicorns if she lusts for guys all the time

>> No.15608016

Pakora ruined years of brand building.

>> No.15608046

>>15607972
True, but that doesn't explain Kronii and Mumei taking 30 minutes to reach their waiting room numbers

>> No.15608144

>>15608016
She did... Holy shit these numbers are bad. Also, Sana losing her gachis LMFAO. Get rekt bitch.

>> No.15608195

>>15608016
nijichads rise once again

>> No.15608230

>>15608144
She had saviorfags, but even saviorfags will leave if you don't stream. Kiara actually managed to turn her saviorfags into loyal gachis through sheer spamming

>> No.15608242

>>15608046
It's people culled in the waiting room. Fauna got that + people legitimately leaving so she got hit extra hard. I imagine Ina will hit her waiting room number.

>> No.15608268

>>15608144
I am shocked that Sana managed to spoil the one thing she had going for her, the saviorfags

>> No.15608360

>>15608230
I can't believe she self-destruct this bad. She really thought taking another break would be cool with her saviourfags.

>> No.15608390

>>15607886
this is invasive as fuck telemetry if true

>> No.15608404

I'm amazed i'm peplying to myself.

>> No.15608408

>>15608268
It's hard to be a saviourfag for someone who doesn't stream.

>> No.15608424

>>15608003
Socializing with indogs and nips is like a lady traveling to Africa to feed a malnourished village some breads. These villages don't have a chance with the lady, so the goslings feel safe, but now that they are interacting with fellow Canadians, these goslings can't self insert any longer.

>> No.15608443

So, how hard cunny will mog all of EN with her New Years' program?

>> No.15608489

>>15608390
I think most browsers will tell a website if the tab is active or not for a lot of very practical reasons

>> No.15608514

>fakeout ending

god DAMNIT why is this part of EN culture

>> No.15608538

>>15608404
Either it's one schizo samefagging or 2 schizos having an private online date.
Just be quiet and observe them like animals lol.

>> No.15608541

>>15608390
We already know this is something they track and that affects viewership to some degree

>> No.15608550

>>15608443
30k maybe?

>> No.15608575

>>15608514
Watching Hololive is like watching marvel.

>> No.15608591

BASED FAUNA GIVING A F U TO NUMBERFAGS

>> No.15608613

>>15608443
with the karoake overlaps and current waiting line looks like it will be 15-20k until it is her karaoke turn

>> No.15608661

>>15608591
wrong thread >>15604975

>> No.15608713

>>15607504
I mean, the song is alright but there's no SOVL.

>> No.15609142

Okay, if Ina doesn't clear 20k with a waiting room this bloated something is wrong

>> No.15609153

Ina
+rarity buff
+better timeslot
-Japanese songs only
-weak lead in w/ Fauna

>> No.15609225

>>15609153
-archived

>> No.15609231

>>15609142
It's archived, I don't expect her to reach waiting room numbers, especially with Gura and Ame starting half an hour into her relay turn

>> No.15609268

>>15609142
I mean... we've saw a similarly bloated waiting room three times already lol.

I'm more surprised how there was no waiting room cull at all for NJU last night, just 40k waiting to 40k watching in an instance, but I guess that's what happens when tens of thousands of people rush in when the stream starts.

>> No.15609285

>>15609231
She has half an hour to reach her waiting room, this'll be interesting.

>> No.15609332

>>15609285
Kronii and Mumei took ~30 minutes to reach their waiting room numbers with unarchived

>> No.15609384

I'm surprised that Ina's waiting room numbers are already beating Mumei. Was expecting no one to beat her until Gura's turn.

>> No.15609416

>>15609225
That's redundant with Japanese songs.

>> No.15609452
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15609452

>> No.15609471

21k waiting

>> No.15609473

年末ホロライブ ~ゆくホロくるホロ2021~【#ゆくホロくるホロ2021】
2,549,867 viewsStreamed live 15 hours ago
年末ホロライブ ~ゆくホロくるホロ2020~【#ゆくホロくるホロ2020】
2,559,845 viewsStreamed live on Dec 31, 2020

while CCV is down this means Holo hasn't declined at all despite CCV saying it has.

>> No.15609474

>>15609384
Ina's 2 hours deeper into burger time. Makes a big difference.

>> No.15609487

>>15609384
stable attracting customers octopus destination

>> No.15609562

>>15609473
2021 is longer than 2020

>> No.15609613

>>15609452
>>15609471
Slashed to 7k when it started holy kek

>> No.15609621

>>15609562
2020 had a bigger average and peak and it was only 40 minutes longer.

>> No.15609662
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15609662

>>15609452
huh?

>> No.15609671

>>15609613
That's normal, what's iffy is the delayed or non-existent recovery.

>> No.15609691

>>15609621
40 minutes can generate a lot of churn

>> No.15609696

>>15609613
That's normal-ish. The issue is when it takes so log to climb back UP to the waiting room.

>> No.15609704

>>15609562
40 mins longer, but this VOD should beat last years VOD quite handily at this rate.

>> No.15609833

>>15609691
they were holding above 80k throughout the whole 7 hours.
This years was 61k average and 99k.

>> No.15609834

>>15609691
True, but the thing to consider is that CCV this year is much lower than last year, like 30-40k lower for most of the stream.

Even if you compare VODs of different lengths, a 8 hour VOD with a 3k CCV is very different from a 7 hour VOD with a 10k CCV.

I'm surprised it's even close at all.

>> No.15609855

>>15609691
not by t after 7hrs
and the other one had a 1 year of acucmulated views.

>> No.15609917

>>15609696
She's climbing back up pretty fast compared to Mumei/Kronii

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