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Pakora
>>15453978
>>15453908>25 JST>25Anon, I hope you jest...>>15454007It did AMAZINGLY well last year ya dummy, and since Niji has managed to increase their tourist# yoy, I expect this one to do better by about 10-20k in peak CCV much like the MK tourney did.
>hmm...omoshiroi...https://youtu.be/s44QNIt5t00
>fbk with 16k on pokemonlooks like tourists are leaving gradually each stream.
I have been happy everyday since I met Mikochi
>>15454133She should've hacked the game so she didn't get the shiny magikarp until 2022
>>15454159Kek
>>15454133Yeah, its ogre, but damn what a run it was. A run so powerful it ended a nearly 2 year hours watched streak.
Is JP witnessing heavy decline compared to last year because salarymen are busy with year end reports and they can't WFH anymore?
>>15454150Damn I didn't know I was on /jp/
>>15454150are you sure you are in the right thread/board ritual poster?
>>15454224It's the most likely explanation, that and people in general are more likely spending time with family this year since no lockdowns.
>>15454150based
>>15454102Jesas the audio
>>15454133She's not trying to get a shiny today, EOP. Nearly 19k is huge for just going progressing in Eterna City.
>>15454224More like companies giving their employees holidays until next week, either everyone is partying or going back to their hometown..t someone who worked with jp company last year on christmas week and needed some data but their staffs were unavailable.
>>15454224no lockdowns = less viewers
>>15454321quick /#/, we need to develop another coof so we get our numbers back
>>15454102audio and angle sucks
>>1545408825jst is a valid time denotation faggot EOP.
>>15454332I wanna visit Japan and attend a Holo Live where you can shout all you want, so no.
>>15454332Numberbros gathering and eating bat soup when???
>>15454281Holy shit yea that's rough. Also, fubuki is dragging this out on purpose for lulz, throwing in clefable in against a goddamn roserade.
>>15454281>>15454350You can buy the ticket and get a better view on zanlive
>>15454411I think Joucho's live audio and video are way better than this
How did these absolute shitters sell out concert tickets? Cover must've bought the remaining ones that didn't sell to not look too bad for them.
i think hal and kuzu should go back to fortnite
>>15454365In WHAT fucking time-denotation is 25 ANYTHING valid?
>>15454475JST
>>15454454Ojou's was a sponsored one, thus why you it was free and online only
So which NY Countdown & Celebration stream is going to win this year? Niji's beat Holo's last year with a small gap, will Holo be able to catch up with the addition of HoloX? Or will Niji be able to widen the gap since their events have been inclining compared to last year?
>>15454475Hours past 24 are commonly used for late night scheduling in Japan
>>15454463did you see the shots of the venueit was pretty IMAGINE THE SMELL status
>>15454463they have a lot of saviorfags that don't watch
>>15454521It denpend on what kind event they'll go with. But knowing niji, they'll probably came up with something generic that'll certainly grab more viewers. Plus they are good at advertising their events
>>15454499I refuse to believe that there'd be an honestly stupid enough bit where you'd purposely go over 24 hours for the fucking 24 hour clock in Japan to go 25 JST instead of just 1 JST. (To be less vitrolic for a second, do you have any actual official uses of 25 JST to confirm that this is actually a thing and not something you're just trolling with?)
>>15454411so this is basically just a preview?
>>15454540True. The "active" fanbase is always larger than CCV numbers anyway.
>>15454463Smaller venue than usual (2k capacity). Also Niji's Rain Drops always sold out tickets despite full with low CCV shitters.
>>15454526Okay, I wasn't aware of this (and frankly most EOP probably are not since it's not common practice anywhere else in the world).
Numbers for the company wide VSPO shill collab.Needless to say, they look good in their uniforms.
>>15454563How fucking new are you?
>>15454570It'll be the full concert i think. Just with that kind of view. Himehina ofthen did this kind of "backstage" view with their concerts too
>>15454521Not sure, NJU is still gonna win 31st because it's essentially a music festival, skits, performances etc. I doubt Hololive could contend in that. Although, Niji would still get trashed the next day because HoloX and Nene is gonna do an outfit reveal.
>>15454475an hours past 2400, did you never watch anime fansubs? Back in my day I would have to check out the tv schedules online to see if my raws were released. That's how they would list times.
>>154545812k capacity is the same as holofes1/sui/watame/toko lives.
>>15454521niji's should take it, these kinds of events are exactly their thing
>>15454581That looks like 100 at best
>>15454596I dunno anon, I'm not sure if they're being serious either, given the state of the fucking numbers thread nowadays.
>>15454563Are you the same anon who thought that AU collab only have 1 pov yesterday?
>>15454600With the same shitty quality?
>>15454521My guess would be niji again. This is their forte.
>>15454643Agreed, I don't see Hololive winning even if they too increased their viewership, Niji big events are exactly the tourist-draw that's the bread-and-butter nowadays.
>>15454563Here you go anon. Or this if you want https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Japan
>>15454563https://news.formulad.com/2013/fd-news/formula-drift-announces-japanese-tv-air-dates-on-j-sport-2/it's so people don't get confused over midnight programs
>>15454463Anon... if boogie voxx and smaller vsingers can sold out their ticket. What makes you think a branch group with Holo brand couldnt easily sold out ticket for a 2k-5k venue?
>>15454475>>15454563Anon, have you actually never watched anime?Japan has always used over 24 hours to note for night time up till 6AM, when the next day starts.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Japan
>>15454626Hololive most likely. Anybody with any shred of intelligence at all knows that Nijishitty sucks and their event is going to suck.
>>15453978Pekorea
>>15454581>Niji's Rain DropsDespite selling 10k capacity on their venue, they are still a group consisting of more than 7 members with a large ccv median on their streams. It can't be compared to Stars who are all sub 1k shitters. HoloFantasy could've sold out more than a 10k capacity venue in comparison just cause there's 2 members who are above Kuzuha's level and another 2 member with rabid fanbases.
>>15454633Toyosu Pit (Suisei and Fes1) and Zepp Tokyo (Watame) are 3k capacity. Zepp Yokohama (Toko) is 2k capacity.>>15454648Camera angle reps.
a little appetizer but mysta and petra are collabing in 5 min
>>15454673Yup. Welp if you are not a fan, but want to give her a listen, you can lurk on /vsinger/ tomorrow or the day after for torrent with Zanlive quality.
>>15454600no I mean, purposely shows the worse angle/audio just so people know the setlist and everything else and maybe they'll buy tickets to get better angle/audio
>>15454121So how much did Koyori end up making for her 20 hours of untold suffering
We might be able to see Pekora struggling to break 10k today before Sans and I cannot wait for the shitposter to go all out on this thread
>>15454736I see. Then yes, it's that kind of preview
>>15454703Given the absolute state of the board, they're either trolling the entire thread into giving serious replies or they're an absolute newfag. I'm not sure which is worse.
>>15454758she is already at sans tough.
Only way i see winning is if every holo members shill the main channel event and tell everyone to come watch including the ens if they are included. Holo viewers tend to stick to their own member's channels than the main channel. Feels like it is just a culture/habit born out of holo box pushing strats.
>Pakora is putting the waiting room too late to not get dislike bombed too fastKek
>>15454521Hololive easily. Hololive's New Years stream is going to balloon to well over 200k viewers when Coco shows up for her surprise appearance.
>>15454719>Camera angle reps.What? With the scenario placement and how spaced out each person is from others, there's no way there are 4 digit people in there
>>15454831?? is been there for 1hr already
>>15454587Holo needs this kind of uniform.
>American board>using Japanese time notationsThis thread has gone full retard, fuck off back to /jp/ if you want to larp as a weeb
>>15454869>Replying in earnest to pak-schizo instead of ignoring themNumbers thread NGMI
>>15454861https://streamable.com/jtyb8a
>>15454906黙れ!
>>15454906>>>/leddit/ is that way boy
>>15454906>Get exposed and annihilated for being a complete newfag>"G-Go back to /jp/"Nice to have confirmation of what kind of trash are coming here and spamming that shit
>>15454891yeah more corpo should follow suit with uniforms, best we have is holo's idol uniform
>>15454906コープ、シーズ、ダイレート
>>15454906>anon got called out for being a retard and seethingThis is a numbers thread anon.
>>15454925Watching that makes me want to vomit. Cover needs to close the branch already. Homofags will never be accepted by the Holochad fanbase.
>>15454961No one cares about whatever shitty system the nips use to tell time, you're not a nip, translate that shit in here or don't bring it up at all
>>15454906It's ok anon. No need to get so embarrassed that you didn't understand, it's an anonymous board.
>>15454332Bili is working on it once they have all their talents lined up and ready to go don't worry
>>15454707Where did you get "more than 7 members" from? There are 6 members in Rain Drops.
Good Mori’s helping her friend’s charity stream’s numbershttps://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1476127284725972992
Iroha is multitasking, minecraft + reading superchat LOL
>>15454891We have the Hololive Lawson collab.
>petra picked a game where you need to watch both povs for a collab with mysta>still has only 1/4 of his viewers
Alright, alright, enough bitching over timezone bullshit (I've always found it kinda dumb and against the entire point of using a 24-hour notation, but nips gonna nip).Let's talk some actual numbers, and how Fubuki is currently a numbers blackhole for the other pokemon streams that just started. While she's sitting on a lovely stack of 18k still, Subaru barely has 4k while Kanata has barely 2k. Then again, 3 fucking pokemon streams in this earlier timeslot was never not going to be brutal for Subaru and Kanata.
>>15455055kek I didn't fact check. I always thought it was 7 or 8 something after watching their free concert in sept.
>>15455081How horrible was her audition that she can't join as a nepotism hire?
>>15455108its more of people getting tired of pokemon than fubuki being a numbers blackhole
>>15455112The usual state of the thread I guess.
>>15454925I see 9-10 per row in the central blocks. The side blocks have around 4-5 and some at the top. Around 400-500 unless the venue is rectangular shaped and there are people watching from 50m away
>his clock doesn’t show 25h
If only Kamitsubaki be affliated with Hololive
>>15455131Reasonable, where Fubuki was doing a stupid little challenge (attempting to clear with just her magikarp and Clefable), Subaru is on what, part 8? Holy shit these girls just need to sit downa and finish this overplayed nonsense in 2-3 sittings instead of dragging things out.Kanata is, meanwhile, attempting to capture meme-fish Feebas in two hours.
so.. 4 of them is SC monster?!
>>15455081She should spend more time pushing Holo events rather than indies.
>>15454707They don't sell out those 10k capacity venues. What they do is they rent out a larger venue like that but then section off large portions of the seating which makes those seats unavailable. Take the Rain Drops concert for example. Rain Drops sucks shit so there is no way they would be able to sell out a venue of that size. However, they still have to rent out a venue like that to keep up appearances from the Nijishitty golden age when people actually watched them. Enter the sectioned off seating that I mentioned above.https://youtu.be/j6VLFegmOukThat is a good example of sectioned off seating. Those seats were never available for sale so they aren't factored in when you are talking about "selling out" a venue. So out of the 10k seats available in the venue for Rain Drops, only about 200 of them were actually available for sale. Rain Drops sold 200 tickets and they could technically call it a sell out since the other seats weren't available.
>>15455013>>15454906>take a look at this newfag kek
>>15455081https://www.twitch.tv/milkyqueen_idolShe barely gets 40-60 viewers on YT, 20-30 when it's the other 2 girls.Gets 808 now on Twitch streaming fully in English now, with a 100 regular viewer average.Not impressive numbers but worth double dipping.
>>15454906Faggot we are discussing things that are happening in Japan, in Japanese, by Japanese at Japanese time. We should be using jst.
>>15455165Well Azki appeared as guest on Kaf's live.
>1.4k viewers on Watame's waiting roomAny predictions? Gold?
>>15455225Wtf? Is this real? Source? Cause if it is that's just fucking pathetic and emberassing
>>15455288Yes the anon who posted that is just fucking pathetic and embarrassing and also haven't even seen any footage from the concert.
>>15455225Pretty sure their concert last september was packed full. Of course, the related free part VOD was privated so there's no way to check it again.
>>15455289Gold easy. Trust Watame, afaik her concert was good so many more people will tune in to her anni because of that
>>15455314>>15455319And here i thought after typing an article anon got shit to back it up
>>15455289Guest? Only Botan?
>>15455238Well, that ultimately may be futile if they don't stick around long-term, but eh.
>>15455319https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az38mBliiWE
Look at this Reddit Duck recline. This is the power of Reddit Duck when she isn't being carried by a meme game like Yakuza 0.
Where have all the good numbers goneAnd where are all the golds?
>>15455289too bad their anniversaries are on december so they couldnt get many guests, this must be why towa was feeling low a while ago too
The frame for the holo NY stream has the segments and the holos participating listed.
>>15454463Posts like these make me think this thread actually buys into the dead subs nonsense and doesn't understand different viewers watch different streams, VODs, or are casual fans. CCV is not and has never been an indication of someone's full fanbase.
>>15455289It will get gold but today is another terrible day for numbers so it will be sub 40K
>>15455437Towa's anniversary is on January and we have the leaked guest list.
>>15455156Why don't you go check the site's official page anon, someone posted it in the past threads.
>>15455476where?
>>15455386At numerous points in this video you can see the camera trickery to cover up the empty venue. They always pan the camera close to the stage so all you see is the area right in front of the stage which is where all the available seats are. They also do another interesting trick in which they keep the lights off in the venue and tape the pen lights to the top of the seats to make it appear as if people are sitting in those seats.I don't know if you have ever seen Rain Drops but they really suck so there is no way they could sell out a 10k seat venue.
hmmm?
>>15455534And here i thought after typing an article anon got shit to back it up but he's just pulling it from his ass again.
>>15455426Holo’s just reclining because EOPs are away during holiday season. That’s what you get for relying on EOPs to pump your numbers. At least JOP and SEA don’t have any long holiday season, and they live close to their families so there isn’t any “busy visiting families” BS like EOP audiences
>>15455534As expected of niggersanji. Why are they always lying?
>>15455504Towa's google docs. 9 guests total.
>>15455534First of all, it's an 8k seating venuehttps://businesseventstokyo.org/venues/convention_venues/ariake-event-hall/Second, while I don't doubt there's some camera trickery afoot, the only 'sectioned off seats' I can see are the ones on the far upper side https://youtu.be/az38mBliiWE?t=291So, it's not a 10k venue, and it looks like yea some seats were sectioned off a bit, that's still several thousands of people (easily 5-6k).
>>15455607Westerners are filthy fucking trash.
>>15455607I dunno anon, numbers were kinda crummy for Niji yesterday too, outside of a challenge stream, a rules-for-tournament stream, and a early-show stream with multiple livers.
Botan confirmed to be the guest. https://youtu.be/fsPSaFbonGo
A bite for every bait.
>>15455744even the variety show views are low.
>>15455288Eh not really. Sectioned seating usually happens when the venue is a coliseum-type with audience all around the stage. Until we have 3D holograms, there is no way a vtuber concert can show the back or sides. The live probably used a 3rd of the capacity so it’s similar to the other 3k venues
>>15455764GIMME THE BAITI'M BORED AF AND IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE TO DISCUSS NUMBERS-WISE RIGHT NOW.
Earnest question. Putting aside what you feel about EN, it's clear that Myth is a success while Council's performance is still lacklustre. Now that the year is almost over and HoloEN is looking to recruit more, what factors do you numberots think made the biggest difference between the two gens?For example,>Timing>Talents of members>Work ethic>Susan's axe>Omega>Nepotism hire>EN market characteristicsetc etc
>Mysta poll has 15k votes but only 5k viewersSusan kys
>>15455811THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NUMBERSGO MAKE A SPLIT
>>15455815based susan
>>15455811Designs, i don't hate their designs but i wouldn't say that they have "the hololive design".
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>>15455815>11hr polldont be fucking stupid thatshit had almost 10k before mysta started
>>15455785The Raindrops one didn't look to have very large sectioned-off portions, just some of the upper-edges on the upper floors by the looks of it. Picrel for how the seating is set up in the Tokyo Garden Theater.
>>15455871>Aki Rose's nameThey fixed Calli but Aki... huge mistake using katakana, huge mistake using "rozenthal", if she was minimally interested in her Holo career she could fix her discoverability in a jiffy
>Subaru almost 10kAre Subatomos going home from work?
>>15454521Niji obviously its a relay so views funnelingNju first half = 3:30pm - 7pmNju second half = 7:30pm - 11:30pmNye = 11:45pm - 1am
>>15455634But because it was leaked, probably, she said she needed to start planing it from the beginning. It's part of the reason she took a stress related break for the rest of the year. So right now we don't know if it will happen at all.
>>15455811Mostly the work ethic. They aren't bringing anything new to the table. Kronii can VA fanarts, manga, 4 komas sent by fans to do shorts and she doesn't go for it. Sana is an artist, instead of explaining astronomy through talking, why don't she make a drawing stream about the related constellation? It's a glorified zatsu anyway. Just draw and talk. Fauna is competent gamer, but doesn't stream all that much. Doesn't do GFE or constant talking anyway. Same goes for Baelz. They aren't streaming daily to acquire experience points. Mumei is the only saving grace of EN, but she isn't streaming all that much either.
>>15455871for the countdown they had everyone in discord last year.
Petra is a huge debuff
>>15455500The capacity numbers are for pre covid with no social distancing
>>15456011Men and women should never collab since their audiences are incels and femcels
>>15456011SEA hates chinks. More news at 11
>>15455984>Kronii can VA fanarts, manga, 4 komas sent by fans How much would /infinity/ akasupa if Kronii VAed their writefaggotry?
>>15456066petra doesnt have unicorns
>>15455984>Kronii can VA fanarts, manga, 4 komas sent by fans to do shorts and she doesn't go for it.Even Haachama does it (to great success) and her voice range is not as wide as Kronii's and her (general) work ethics is almost as lamentable.
huh, rushia just had the same viewer bug she had for the xmas relay
>>15456202Mysta is the one getting massively debuffed by her.
>>15456221>viewer bug Which bug?
>>15456202The manjihomo does
>>15456242her waiting room numbers transfer immediately and stay for a few seconds and then crash, for the xmas relay it made it so her peak was something like 42k when she was never over 35k for it, it's kinda weird to explain
>>15456011Well he is streaming earlier than usual, plus he never posted a schedule.
>>15456223>Mysta is the one getting massively debuffed by her.He's not. Here are the numbers of all of JP and ID currently streaming>pic relatedNumbers are down across the board
>>15456221In other Rushia news, her asmr a couple weeks back is about to pass 1 million views.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpjcloaTUJUAlso the collab with laplus is starting strong with 10k.
>>15456304>Lize Just having zatsu right now, I don't know how many viewers her zatsus usually get.>Oliver Normal number for him, it's even a little above his average.
Will NijiEN guys be able to improve NijiEN's overall sponsorship and overall influence in the future? I mean, when I searched "vtuber" on YT, I rarely see Holo contents these days but a mix of NijiEN males and indies. Is the meta on YT changing?
>>15456291There is a more or less simple explanation for that: waiting room numbers are more or less the initial audience numbers for a certain stream.Last one tagged as so (with "雑談") got 10672
>>15456431>I mean, when I searched "vtuber" on YT, I rarely see Holo contents these days but a mix of NijiEN males and indies.Search is customized based on your preferences.
ruchan+lapu at 15k+, but the game theyre playing is really shit and repetitive, so i don't expect too much
>>15456291There is a more or less simple explanation for that: waiting room numbers are more or less the initial audience numbers for a certain stream.But it takes Youtube a certain amount of time to "bot check" each viewer, and they scale it based no the initial numbers, with 2k (at most) viewers per minute being typical for streams the size of Hololive's, plus likely "auto approving" Premium users and users with other signals of "legitimacy".That ends up putting a hard cap on how big a 20 min stream can grow based on how fast Youtube is clearing their queue, no matter how big the initial audience was>>15456381Last one of Lize's tagged as zatsu (with "雑談") got 10672
Indie?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s44QNIt5t00
>>15456706 (me)Just saw the thumbnail again from this link. Damn, kamitsubaki is on fire these days.
>>15456706Kamitsubaki
>>15456304Chigusa...>>15456706Kamitsubaki is vsinger company
>>15455202With this she's overtaken Laplus who started off great but then fell off a cliff last week or so, I'm not sure if Lap can keep it up without ever reading them
rushia+la+ at 20k
>>1545679523k nowThis is a perfect game for kusogakis to rage at each other.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6iloMoghtsThey should play it with Shion, Towa and Pekora too.
>>15456706Yup. This year is pretty big for them as all they form V.W.P and all the witches got their 1st onemanlive, game collabs, and Kamitsubaki City is almost completed. Ther sub group, Shinsekai, is doing pretty good too
>>15456960>PekoraYeah no
>>15456706Just ended, pretty good numbers even for the free side given their size.She had a good year overall, got a big boost from the very well made, fully animated MV for [the last bullet]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn1ieBOLGB01.5 million views.
Even when there are companies like Niji, Vshojo, Kamitsubaki on the female music side, Vspo on the female gamer side, Hololive still reigns supreme because of their mindshare status. Niji events still relies on ads and topics while Hololive would have fans joining without those kind of ads on their events.
>>15455846Maybe, but with EN very likely to debut more next year, this may be a good time to pose some hypotheses to validate with the next gen.
>>15456304Isn't this his same performance for his last multipov collab
>>15456960>Pekora>Collab with anyone that isn’t in her genmate or employeesThat will never happen. I figure Pekora would rather sabotage her career than going out of her way to ask for collabs
Wait fubuki will overlap watame?
>>15457134she moved the frame already
>>15457124>>15457042You guys mean Pekora wouldn't play this game with Rushia or Towa?Or Marine, or even Korone/Botan?
Tsunomaki Watame 2nd Album『わためのうた vol.2』収録曲 2021.12.29 Release
>>15457186Marine/Rushia/Botan/Towa are likely the only people in Hololive she is comfortable collabing withIf there’s a stranger present, she will probably decline the request
>>15457188her first album did fucking terrible, hope for her mental that this does better
>>15456791Lapu is spending half of time on collabs on other channels now. And she made it clear she doesn't care about supas
>>15457232her "first album" was a bunch of meme songs originally only sold as part of her merch bundle
This came a bit out of nowhere.Rukudo Constructions with kson, Taishi, Rin and co.The stream that is, because everyone in it is in kson gang now, but didn't know this was happening so close to the Pikamee collab.
>>15457281eww this is reimu tier numbers
>>15457281Who the fuck are these people? Why is she doing this to herself?
>>15457281>330Am I in the wrong thread? JST primetime is for big number right?
>>15457349And this is channel which usually gets less than 80 viewers.From one of the EN startups, Prism.would have gotten a lot more if this was properly advertised but seems it was impromptu.
>>15457281Based Kson getting with Yura.>>15457349Because it is a small EN corpo. 300+ is REALLY good. That is Nene and Miori viewership. Most other small corpos frequently get double digits and sometimes break into 100.
>>15457188Ok, so this will contain all her songs from the concert and probably 1-2 new ones.Weird that it was announced before the anniversary.
>>15457281Taishi? Doesn't she have a gachikoi named Taishi?Pretty big get for Yura though. Hope it helps Prism incline and in turn my wife Rita incline too
>>15457401stop advertising your midgets here
>choco niji collab overlapping Watameohnonono choco's gone turncoat
the fbk stream started at 23:57 on the 28th counts for which day again
>>15457403She hasn't announced it yet. People found it from >>15455759
>>15457408>Taishihttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg3NUikFBut0zH8ZpRXU-ygYes, it is The Taishi, best live translator in the game.He still sometimes live TLs Hololive events, but mostly sticks to kson's streams also, he's a vtuber too now.
>>15457408The same Taishi yeah.
>>15457401iirc, yura is kson/coco vtuber sister.
>>15457416No.
are we getting raided or something
>>15457457>Location: Hong Kongnahone
We've been talking a lot about HoloJP and NijiEN this thread.Does NijiJP have anything interesting set up for today?
>>15457499SEA hours is always schizo raids time
>>15457499Are you lost or something?
>>15457457what's there to say, Taishi made it, he gets to collab with his oshii real time.1st step to fucking her, she knows talks to him in person instead of a number or text on a screen.
>>15457505Nijijp already did their big collab today
>>15457526If Taishi can do it, we can too bros.Never lose out hope
10k waiting room for starthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV8rLERH6yU
>>15457629Will it beat Kanata's live?
rushia+lapras is now current goldexpecting the watame anniversary to get more obviously
>>15457629Botan and Mori as guests.
>>15457188>わためのうた vol.2Exactly what I expected her to call it but it's an awful fucking name, vol.1 was just 2 proper songs along with all her gag songs from the early days and calling it vol.2 is just making people expect more of the same. I'm a Watamate and I really love her music but she has no idea how to promote it, music is an absolutely cutthroat business and she's far too nice to ever make it in that world. If Cover actually gave her a manager who knew about this stuff and has time to help her they could have another Suisei that actually streams too but instead she has to share one with 12 other people.
>Subaru 11k>Kanata 4kWhat did Susan do this time???
>>15457683literally just stop playing fucking pokemon for the love of god
>>15457441counts for the 28th.
wtf rushia, laplus. fucking end it already.
>>15457629Starting with the banger and the Sololive outfithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV8rLERH6yUBack to 10k after the stream start culling.
>>15457683She changed the algorithm since yesterday
>>15457755Oh no, rushia is gona get bullied in chat again.
>Watame getting overlappedHah, is this the power of the "hololive family"
>>15457755>>15457771Just 5 HP left, 1 hit to end it but they've been running around for like 10 minutes
>Rushia overlapping WatameOh no she will goes menhera again
>>15457819They finished already and are now doing impersonations. Rushia.... Yamada.......
>>15457817Sasuga black company
>>15457769It's like watching the Sololive again, but with much better cameras.
16k at 10 minswhat does the ouija board say numberfriends
>>15457225>not mentioning BaelzWatch streams, Pekora had more fun with Baelz than the people you listed.
funnel incoming
Watame will kill herself after this.
>>15457917YT is broken I swear
>Rushia didn't even direct people into Watame's liveWhy is she such a massive cunt? Is this why she had such great energy with Laplus?
>>15457281kson left for her collab with Pikamee and now it's down to 110
wtf youtube....
>>15457938Chat is fucking speed. I doubt this is below 20k. What is Susan doing
20k at 13 mins
>>15457937I'll kill you instead nigger
Hope laplus has another mental breakdown for taking part in this.
>>15457636I think so, she is pacing it better with banter. This helps numbers.
>>1545791745-50k max. Having only 1 actual guest limits the kinds of numbers she'll be able to get, plus the numbers are kinda down across the board for these past few days.
>>15457937More likely to cry some and get some great supas, win win.
>>15457977superchat succubus owns shit to no one, the queen only cares about her crown
>>15457991And it's still all green
I'll obviously get more CCVs than Kanata
>>15458019I doubt she can even hit 30k
I think something is up. Numbers are down across the board for Holo and Niji. Did the YT Pajeets mess with the code again?
What if Cover does more joint ventures like INNK with upd8? They could do one with Kamitsubaki.
>>15457817>>15457837>Doesn't get overlapped by ID>Gets overlapped by branchmates insteadWatame...
>>15458116Why in the fuck would they do that? It's a numbers sink.
>>15458116No, we're going to keep it all in house.T. A-Chan
>>15458109End of year work events that didn't happen last year because of lock down is the most likely reason.
This is what Watame got last year, for reference.37.9k Peak.
>>15458045>>15457991Eh, it's pretty average peaking slightly above 2k messages / minute and this doesn't even count unique users. Her members are very active though.
24k at 20 minsnot looking good sheepbros
>>15457837What is her problem?
I've been telling you guys for days now Youtube fucked with the CCV numbers again, I hope you guys will finally listen after a popular Hololive member fails to hit 30k for an anniversary 3D
How likely is Botan going to eat her out and what kind of numbers would that get?
>>15458169Guess restrictions were albeit looser this month as compared to last years.
>>15458157But for it to be down by this much? Even on Niji's side. Except for their noon show I don't think a single Niji stream has crossed 10k today yet (correct me if I'm wrong though)
>>15458109This for youDHC chad usually hit 40k~60k in the past
>>15458169It should be more hype this time since she's using the Sololive dances and costume.A lot more production and songs.
Just the camera tech alone in recent lives make me believe cover did absorb azki's 3d team.
>>15458256Pajeets "improving" the software!
Why Watame always invites Botan to her 3d streams? They don't even collab. Also, where is obligatory Okayu? I thought, it was illegal to have a 3d live and not have Okayu in it.
literally stalling>>15458300"lore" reasons
>>15458260Numbers are low though
>>15458300They have an original song coming out, it was available as an unlisted video for a couple of hours before the stream (privated now).
>>15458300>They don't even collab?Anon, they were even on an onsen trip together 2 weeks ago. They get along really well.
Ok, Watame didn't want to do a solo live, fair. Chose the gag segment option rather then multiple guests for songs. Not sure about this sheep.
this segment is literally just stalling, whos idea was this lmao
Gen 5 really is views cancer, they tank the numbers of anything they're invited to
So, Among Us gold, right?
>>15458383I'm entertained. Better than sololive with pure songs imo
>>15458404It's funMight as well stall anyway since Rushia already sunk any chance of getting above 30k
well this gives watame current goldliterally anything can beat this, what else is there today
>>15458451Fuck Rushia, she keeps doing the same, there's no way it's not on purpose
>>15458442Rushia mama & La+ baby gold
>watamage has been invoking black magic multiple times for all your oshis >None of you are paying your respects by watching her live For shame
>>15458442doubt it
>>15458500Nah
>Blaming RushiaShe ended 10 minutes in, Watame not catching the funnel is Watame's fault.
>>15458491They basically should forbid her from streaming in the slot before any big event.Because she'll run over just to stroke her ego
>it started droppingthis is not breaking 30k, actually embarrassing
>>15458576This but Pekora too.
I hope this is just numbers holiday debuff and not susan fuckery again, i can't cum to low numbers when you have high numbers before.
Watame...
Watame passed to first but not by much.Still can get to 30k, but generally low for what a 3D anniversary live and this production deserves. They're back to singing, so see y'all for now.
Jesus I feel kind of bad. If Towa's live is anything like the leaks it will be so cheating, numbers wise. But with how shit numbers are now maybe even that would flop hard. Right now kanata's numbers look impressive.
>>15458576I still remember when some fan told her about the overlap and she shed crocodile tears with some bullshit about them not wanting to watch her
>>15458554The first 5-10 minutes are critical for a proper funnel.Also, you need to, you know, actually tell your viewers about the stream.Rushia should absolutely eat shit for this
>>15458300Retard.
>>15458603I feel JP vtubers get worse holiday debuff compared to non JP vtubers
>>15458554It's 10 minutes less of algorithm recommendation and growth
>>15458491>>15458451Rushia ended it 10 past. roughly 20 k viewers at that time. At 15 past watame had gained 5 k compared to 10 past. Stop pretending there is a complete overlap of the audiences. Is it a dick move to overlap, yes. Does it sink watame's live? No, watame does that fine by herself.
JP numbers in general seem to be in the shitter recently.
>>15458554>overlapping an anniversary>not telling your fans
What in the fuck
This is exactly what I meant when I said she's too nice to make it in the music world, she's using an event she only gets once a year to shill her friend who can't sing for shit's original song instead of her own or collabing with one of the serious singers she's close with. I love you sheep but stop doing this to yourself
>>15458683Botan started singing
>>15458638Not true, funnels can happen and do on the regular mid way during streams normally. Should Rushia have ended, yes. Is it the end of the world, no.
>>15458658Fan dead are subhuman cucks
>>15458638>>15458657>>15458680Cope, it's not Rushia or Laplus's fault that people don't give a shit about the boring sheep
Botan can't sing for shit. Why invite her?
Another december cull? Why does Youtube hate their streamers getting big numbers?
>>15458687>collabing with one of the serious singers she's close withLike who?
how's the SC though?
>>15458658>j-just 10 minutes!You are in # and still don't know how that messes up with the funneling?
>>15458703I hope someone returns the favor for Ru-chan's next big event.Pekora preferably
>>15458725Azki or Sora
>watame invites botan and tanks her own numberskek, there's a reason gen 6 are avoiding all gen 5 collabs like the plague, truly the smartest numberfag gen
>>15458700Come now genghis khan, I've been watching watame from the start. That doesn't change the fact that fandeads didn't want to watch Watame. That's not Rushia's fault, it's not even Watame's, she just doesn't provide them with the entertainment they want.
>>15458736Good
>>15458736
>>15458703Go back to /hlg/ retard,
the fuck are these numbers>botan can't singnowhere near enough of a reason to explain these numbers
Just finish having dinner. How long are we in Watame stream? I only see 24k
>>15458736About what you'd expect
I legit want to see a holojp girl do a poll on their 3d live and see how many people susan is actually hiding.
>>1545878940 mins
>>15458788>gen 5 are not popularexplains it tho
>>15458738It doesn't. You believing it does is based on your biased views that the overlap between audiences is greater then it is.
TODAY GOLD GONNA BE LOWER THAN PEKORA MARIO DX STREAM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm just going to retroactively kneel to Kanata for mogging the shit out of Watame with a proper sololive.
>>15458788Half Watame self-sabotage, half either holiday debuff or Youtube fuckery it's unclear yet
IOSYS made this song
>>15458804They're not holoEN so not much.
oh no, it's in the slippage territory, any stream from niji that can beat this?
>>15458822>It doesn'tRetard, this is the numbers thread
>>15458788Botan is doing fine. She isn't great but her singing is cute enough and they got some good takes out of her. This is just a bad time for numbers.
>>15458721We kept thinking about that. The most logical conclusion is that it's being forced by the advertisers.Since the main culprits for culling are>ad block>tabbed out>no ads regions>also the bot just being slow, bulky and badmeaning the advertisers probably didn't want to pay extra for high viewership streams where part of the audience wasn't even seeing the ads. As per usual, YT overcorrected, or just hired mediocre programmers.
>>15458813That's already more than halfway through what the fuck? I heard the stream only last for an hour
is it just me or watame's stream buffering alot ???
>watamates grasping for straws trying to explain her CCVs The cope is hilarious every time
>>15458859Holo among us will mog this huh
KING OR TOYA, IT'S YOUR CHANCE TO SWOOP IN FOR THE GOLD
>>15458788The numbers are bad across the board, even for Nijisanji. The only stream over 10k so far for Niji is the morning show, and it didn't even break 20k today. https://vrabi.ml/dailyLike, the numbers are BAD bad. Even a trio collab involving Mito on her channel failed to break 10k. I'm certain its people still unavailable due to holiday shit in Japan since this is first Christmas holiday season after lockdowns and people are just...not around after christmas.
>>15458892Wrong board, you should be baiting in /jp/
>>15458917>The numbers are bad across the board, even for Nijisanji.>nijisanjiTheir number always shit outside event tho
>>15458892Turns out being Mukkun's cumdump for 7 years isn't good for numbers.
maybe Seaniggers are busy watching sports
>>15458950Bad even for their outside event numbers
>>15458950Have you seen the numbers today?Most are struggling to get above 3k
New Year is a much bigger debuff in Japan than Christmas. Nobody there care about your Jesus, beyond eating chicken, but New Year is actually properly celebrated.
>>15458926He can't. Heimin is bullying Watamates there.
>>15458892She got 42k for her last 3D without the anniversary buff a few months ago, do you seriously think she reclined that much as did every single other streamer on Youtube?
>>15458892As a Watamate, i've been saying her CCV has been low for a while and got lower in december.But it's still 2-4 times more than twice Mel or Choco and this is barely getting solo anniversary stream numbers from them.The numbers are bad across the board too, that's the part that doesn't make sense.
>>15458687or you know, sheep is just a horrible singer.
Assuming this number is going to be more or less the peak, Watame is down quite a bit on her last anniversary stream (37.9k).
>Choco, WTF are you doing?
this might as well be titled shishiwata live
>>15458876I don't think ads even play during streams do they?
JP CCV CULLING>JP CCV CULLINGJP CCV CULLING>JP CCV CULLING
>>15459015She's pimping out the groom.Debi just got married and can do whatever they want.Also, outside company collabs are always a hassle to re-schedule.
So is Petra a debuff to Mysta?~4500 peak
>>15458866It is. And you are making the statement that If Rushia had ended her stream and funneled properly more of her fans would have watched the live. That is most likely true, but you are overestimating the effect. There is still 15k or so of Rushia's viewers that still haven't tuned into the live. They most likely wouldn't have regardless since Rushia isn't a part of Watame's live.You assume that big parts the talents viewer base overlap with all of Hololive, that is incorrect.
>>15459015Nice numbers, better than normal at least.
>>15459035yes they do when you start the stream or refresh.If you stay in the stream they won't pop out of nowhere though.
>>15458887It's fine for me.
>>15459007Nah. She's not that good but I wouldn't say she is a horrible singer.
>>15458986Yes. Kanata did well with her live. Why cant Watame?
>>15459052I would bet that any female is going to be end up being a debuff for the NijiEN males
when will hololive realize 3d needs actual content and not just singing songs and awkwardly shilling merch
>>15459058>15k or so of Rushia's viewersThose are collab tourists
>>15459058Oh no, the box is failingHolobros...
So is this digital only or physical but tied to Cover's online shop or physical that sold at physical store like Suisei's?
>>15458986You are replying to a schizo that has a folder full of pictures of a japanese man ready to be dumped everytime someone says leech
>>15458887stream bitrate is kinda bad, but not buffering
What the actual fuck fbk 30k CCV is in jeopardy isn't it? Phasmo w/ alot of overlap and pokemon again later.
>>15459100Just because Watame's numbers were even worse doesn't make Kanata's figure any less pathetic
>>15459109They literally had an entire segment of doing silly shit in 3D anon, do you have alzheimers.
>>15459118they were talking about a CD too, but guess we'll see in a few minutes when it's out.
>>15459100Kanata has a better head for production, or had people to advise her.
>>15459134Kanata = 50kWatame = 30k Cope sheepfag
>>15459151Cope sheep
>>15454906> this level of assblastedness
>>15459180>leeches from Mori
>starts singing>loses 1k peoplejesus christ
>>15459212More likely that it's because Botan segment is done.
How did Mel's live get such a high number compared to these disappointments?
>>15459109Watch streams.
Your oshi gonna get cursed by watamage ya know?
>>15459151Her numbers were great for a literal sololive with no guests and nothing other than songs, shit-eating sheepfag. And god, she's fucking terrible at singing, how could she ever farm numbers from songs.
We cull views every year in decemberEnjoy your streams guys!
>>15459099part of me thinks she isn't going to covers voice lessons(?) dont watch her so idk. she sounds like she's just using her speaking voice
>>15459109Sankisei concert was unironically trying to do just that by adding a simple storyline in the concert. It's not the best story but it have a beginning and occasional singing in the middle
>>15459227it's more likely because she's literally screaming this song and getting out of tune
>>15459230are you retarded? Do you see pekora and marine in these thumbnails?
>>15459249she's okay at singing, enough for it to not be a debuff, but her original songs are dog
>>15459230>How did Mel's live get such a high number compared to these disappointments?Power of friendship
>>15459212End songs always lose a lot of viewers, this lost less than usual.Are you new here anon?
>>15459204Mori was literally a backing track. announced just the night before.
>>15459251i would even rape
>>15459251For the love of all that is holo Susan, just stop. CCVs are already dead.
>>15459251Now I'm excited to see either niji or holo new year stream, to see if both will be under 100k kek
>>15459302Yes, she baited people into thinking Mori would appear as a guest but she ended up as a backing track. That's leeching
We can get an idea of how bad the cull is by comparing SC in this live to her last one. Anyone got the numbers on hand?
>>15459304wouldnt*
>>15459330SC was higher this time
>28K Goldanyone up to save this day for the love of god
>>1545933037k.I don't think it is a cull tho
>>15457225> t. doesn't watch streams
>>15459393The change in the covid situation compared to last year seems more likely yeah.
>>15459327people knew she would be a cardboard at most.she got her 45k peak again a few songs after mori. there we're only around 500 or so mori tourists which also right after the song.
So, Iroha or La+ getting imposter in the right game might give a good enough swap for a decent number. Otherwise I don't see it happen for the collab.
>>15459389Not Pakora that's for sure.
>>15457932She's a new addition to Pekora's harem lolI am still seething that Sana did nothing despite being one of the first EN that got Pekora's attention
Low numbers are either due to another unannounced Susan cull or due to holidays.Just waiting will tell.
something wrong with CCV today I think LMAO, wtf
>>15459330This is the playboard link for last year's Live. https://playboard.co/en/video/TgiT1DQe_io
Is pandering to lonely salarymen worth sacrificing ccv for?
Why are numbers so low? What happened?
dunno about the sus collab getting numbers to be honest
>>15459478Who are you talking about?
>>15459440 (me)*which also left right after the song
How do we save numbers bros?
>>15459478they got the numbers that matters the most, so... yeah
laplus 10k waiting room...
>>15459478Only this thread cares about the ccv mate
>>15459454>Susan cullNo, ccv is still higher than likes.
Who is gold so far?
>>15459545Pakora cares, too.
Pekora started. I predict around 15k on average, could be worse depending on how long it take her to beat Sans
>>15459015https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mgk1AkXBOMended and got privated for some reason.
>>15459478What are you talking about, Chloe who has the 2nd highest number of her gen or Rushia who clearly has the characters mengen in big simple to read hiragana?
what did yagoo delete
Kek, sorry can't reply. You got filtered
>>15459478>lui-nee: 2513>cunnny: 561>matsuri: 0
>>15459547Nips don't "like" videos
Mysta at 3.6k…
>>15459591Need to cut some part, it's collab with nijishitty after all, it's bound to happen
>>15459550Watame
>Amogus in 2021Hololive is creatively bankrupt
>>15459637holocope
>>15459571Loads more overlaps today, maybe if the amongus is a short collab, like 1 hour. She is at a better spot for the fight though, reaching p2 at a pretty decent rate.
Lucia...
>>15459649People still make Amogus memes. It definitely still relevant somewhat
>>15459639Zatsu part with Petra
>>15459649>>15459727Wasn't Kuzuha playing Among Us with celebs two months ago?
>>15459660Ironic when Kanata has 6k more likes than Kuzuha for their 3Ds
>>15459660picrel compared to Kazuha 30 MIL and 423k likes.Get your head out of your ass.JPs don't like or sub easily.
Will the crazy rabbit receive all the viewers from the Amogus Collab'? That would be neat.
>>15459752Doubt.
>>15459736Isn’t that supposed to be his specialty?
>>15459752Nah, started at the same timeIf she defeated Sans before Amogus end then no way she's going to get the funnel. So it's entirely depend on RNG (unless she can stall for hours)
APOLOGIZE!>DO IT!
>>15459798Pengu debuff
>>1545954722k likes at 28k peak, 23k average.Meanwhile picrel had 24k likes
>>15459808>If she defeated SansHahahahaha, based on her progression? She won't be defeating him for a couple of weeks
hurea...
JUST
>>15459752Doubt, she got to last part yesterday on her last attempt. She still has a lot of stuff that she fails on but it might just be a good attempt away from the kill. And the likelihood she would get a good funnel from it is small anyway due to the game itself.
>>15459868LMAO
What the fuck Flare
>>15459867It's RNG. There is a chance she will luckshit it and managed to defeat Sans, even if that chance is super low
>>15459908Go Iofi Go
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO>PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTHEY WATAMATES!>APOLOGIZE TO POLKA!ALSO KNEEL!
>>15459868>>15459873It will be low, but generally I won't be judging any stream within the first 20'due to how crappy Youtube handle CCV count at the start of a stream
... Are we healing from numberrot my fellow /#/ ?
Damm 17 streams overlapping wtf
>>15459873The hell even is this game she's playing?It's like some LN/RPG thing? Absolute numbers poison.
>>15459970Delete this right fucking now
>>15459985im getting the shakes man, i can't live like this
>Pekora struggling to break 10k right nowHoly shit, the fastest recline in Vtuber history
>>15459985We went straight from numberrot to number starving.
>>15459998it's a VN for the switch with some truly awful art
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1476180343413952512numbers... onegai...
>>15459970There's no way anyone could look at this and tell me seriously there isn't another CCV cull
>>15459985Susan is purging all of our systems... I don't feel to good numberbros...
>>15459866So you're saying susan also culled Mio's live? lmao holocope>>15459748Applies only to live feeds.
>>15460043I suspect numbers will be a BIT better in this time slot and at 11pm JST, but holy fucking cow does it hurt to look at.Even Nijisanji's got nothing above 10k even now, this is just sad to look at.
Numbers look so depressing today for everyone, we should delete this thread and memory of today.
>>15460041thank you for your contribution
Undertale is poison for Pekora numbers. This is Bravely Default 2 all over again
These numbers... Holy shit what's happening? Did we time warp back to mid 2020?
>>15459970Fucking Polka beats Watame Kek
>>15459230Are you trying to look down on the king slayer banpire?
Shame that Chloe was demoted to being the third in holox. I get Laplus' appeal but I can't wrap my head around Iroha's incline. Is is because of the constant Laplus leeching? Chloe had a VERY strong start but I guess the seemingly endless SC reading bullshit just fucked her over that much ccv wise.
>>15460054Guest hints in the thumbnail, she is learning.
>>15459970Better singer wins
>>15460054My god that is a fucking STACKED Guest-list.I'm guessing that, assuming these holiday blues for numbers are shaken off after the new year, an easy 70k+. If not, it'll be rough and I say 55k max.
>>15460054look at all those guests, now that's some numbers
>>15459230I'm unironically more surprised about haachama's 3D getting high numbers, it was only a couple of hundreds less than this with the shittiest shilling I've ever seen
yup youtube is being even more of an asshole today. They were culling total views even when the stream was still live. ccv must be suffering at least the same
Well, we can say for sure that Lapras is superior to Pakora at least, even if the numbers are low for everyone.
oh no jpbros what do we do lmao
They seem to be doing some Squid Game thing on Haneru's channel.Patra, Rene and others are dancing in tracksuits in 3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvTliIkiS8QNumbers barely over 3k, pretty bad for a regular collab on her channel, much less a 3D one with this cast.
>>15460054>PEBOTLiterally a fan favorite, if this won't break 40k I would be surprised
>>15460149>eop
>>15460220There’s 1 Niji above 5k right now, Mito.
Festival....
Around 80k watching holos, 50k for niji.
>>15460149Quit outing yourself as someone who doesn't watch streams. Those sc readings are additional streams for the day. Playing Undertale and Pokemon as her first games is what slowed her early growth
god even the baits went down on quality, let's just call it a day
What possible benefit is there for Youtube in culling CCV? I'm not saying they don't, I'm just trying to understand the mentality. If anything they should be trying to maximize the numbers wherever possible, especially if they're trying to grow Youtube as viable streaming platform.
>>15460268Why is she being such a tryhard? Couldnt even give lui-nee an oppurtunity to kill at least
>>15460270That's about half of what each company would respectively get on a good day.
>>15460258That's not a solo stream either.She's with Norankeo and Shiina too.
>>15460282Susan hate vtuber, or just hololive in general.
Shame that Watame's anniversary is on such a slow day.
>>15460282This is the closest to an answer we could find.>>15458876
>>15459970POLKA-SAMA! GOMEN, GOMEN!Also>serves Watame right Think of all the numbers she crashed this year alone >Watamage got her dues
>>15460307Her yab has been overshadowed
>>15460268she's actually drowning the collab, i fucking hate matsuri
>>15460192so watames total views couldnt even catch up to her ccv, meanwhile:now for laplus:>10k ccv>nearly 50k total views alreadyyoutube is definitely fucky today
>>15460282I’m tempted to believe that the Pajeets at YouTube broke the live counting system and either can’t or won’t fix it (due to it being expensive).
>>15460313More like 2/3rds for both.Good days for holo are 100-120k, and Niji closer to 75-80k.
>>15459835leech
PAKORA STILL HASN'T BROKEN 10K
>>15460324There's not a single Youtube stream in Japan over 15k right now, vtuber or not.
>>15460376what the fuck, where are the nips
>>15455634I believe that one is an original song For PEBOT, I remember her leaking something regarding a song a few months ago. I didn't bother translating with DeepL though so can someone help?
These numbers don't look normal at all wtf.
>>15460343SUSAN
>>15459487People are either stuck at work or traveling home to their families for new years.
>Mikomet at topGen 0 dominance
>>15460268Man, at least let the others have fun..
>>15460054Can someone give me a list of the guests? I can't make up some of the silhouettes
WTF
>>15460343Laplus is more popular with EOPs so she's suffering from the typical EN viewer cull.
>>15460389Did she accidentally show this on stream? Or she just show it?
>>15460376JP RECLINING! OH NO NO NO NO SAMURAIBROS.
>>15460343susan is still drunk af and will be until the holiday is over
Shit's fucked all over the place, there's been signs of this for a couple of weeks now but it's clear at this point something is going on that's killing the numbers, whether it's the time of year or Youtube being a nigger again I won't speculate on. But comparing numbers from today to those from before this is started seems useless.
* ongoing live-ranking top, unfiltered *Gatchaman is usually at 14k for Phasmo
COME ON FLARE REACH 1KYOU CAN DO IT
>>15460413OkayuPekoraBotanLamyKanataNeneMelIdk
>pekora only 10k>flare sub 1kGen 3 is reclining hard ngl
>>15460282It has to do with showing those that buy ads numbers they can "trust". Like, "We can promise you that X number of real people will see your ads live", this has to do with justifying costs etc. This is basically just an expanded system from how they count normal video views, who also get culled.
>>15460444Wouldn't say couple of weeks. It started a day before Christmas.
Either the holiday debuff is real or Youtube updated something in the algorithm and it's fucking with all the numbers once again.
>>15460386The highest stream is on Twitch at 80k, on Youtube it's just a really weak showing overall.
>>15460389That's Walkure song
>>15460513is that like GDQ
>>15460487How is number for Marine and Rushia and Noel?The gen is not just those 2
Pakora...
>>15460054>deleted
>>15460435Nah Laplus is an eop filter. Chloe is the eop favorite. Just take a look at their chats and comment section. Also I believe Chloe is the only one with TL among holox now, I think.
>>15460543GDQ without the trannies
You dumbasses its the end of the year in Japan, people always go home around the last couple of working days before new years for shrine visits so ofc viewership is low
>>15460460That is almost half of his viewers gone wtf.
Pekora was so lucky... got that 190k right before the fucked up cvv culling new algorithm .
>>15460509Youtube definetly fuck something up. Numbers been too upnormal these past few days
>>15460343Some people like to cycle a lot during Among Us collabs to where the interesting POV is and will have these bloated.Others straight up have all of them playing at once but are only counted once, where they tab in.
>>15460545>noel sub 5k>marine doesn't stream
>>15460483Rushia?Mio + Fubuki (middle right)Suisei (same pic as nene looks like)
>>15460545Noel is at 4kRushia did great today but it was a laplus collab... Idk about marine though
>>15460565Cope, Christmas till New Year's is holiday time in the US too but you don't see holoEN reclining. More like EOPs have just lost interest in JP vtubers lmao.
>>15460054>>15460483Is that AZKi on bottom right?
>>15460506There was that friday a couple of weeks ago when the numbers suddenly tanked and people were speculating a CCV cull, they recovered a bit after that but they tanked again a week ago yeah
Should we asterisk all numbers from this week for the benefit of future generations of numberfags?
i hate susan so fucking much bros
What the actual fuck is going on with youtube numbers? This can't be right.
>>15460632no, we must preserve these to teach the new generations about the dangers of numberrot
>>15460513Oh, RTAinJapan is happening....I completely forgot, that very well could explain part of the drop, wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some overlap between those interested in RTA stuff and those who watch vtubers.
>>15460608>>15460601How the fuck Marine showing up in other channel more than her own? Is this what they called a collab whore?
>>15460558https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1476183335772856330She had 2021 instead of 2022, she is very retarded.
>>15460613>but you don't see holoEN reclining
Did niji lose viewers as well, or did it only affect hololive?
>>15460566You mean 180k
>>15460572Maybe check other streamers' numbers on youtube first?
>>15460613>you don't see holoEN reclining.heh
>>15460560>Chloe is the only one with TL among holox nowI'm not entirely sure but I saw a screenshot of him saying that he's going to leave to TL Mel's mengen.If they're not at least haachama levels dedicated like reiza and Shrek... And tk a certain extent yami, Idk if they should be counted
Last time Miko was in an Amogus collab she peaked at 33k
>>15460686>>15460566187kGet your number right, both of you
Something definetly weird with youtube. These past couple days the number the chuuba i watch are too "stable". Like at one point they inclined and then stuck in a certain number for hours before it went down or up a little, unlike in the past where numbers went from (for example) 8k then incline to 13k, platued, went to 12k, 10k, then incline into 13k again. These days number be like 4k, 6k, then platue at an exact number like 7.8k for hours
>>15460558Dangit Towa, did you not mean to reveal this so early?Why are you like this? It'd be a great way to get people hyped up!>>15460613Anon, Gura got like, 20%-30% less than what she normally would for a solo MC stream..
>>15460686anon fucked up his numbers as much as you did the number was 187k.
>>15460684Mito 3 menbers collab didn't even hit 10k
We are entering the 2nd Holocaust, just like how there are 2 World Wars
>>15460679Oh, AHAHAHA. I feel retarded too, I didn't even catch.
>>15460435Laplus isnt popular with EOP, shes popular with N8s on /jp/ but thats like 150 people at most, otherwise her chat and comments are 99% JOP as you would expect from someone who does 75% zatsudans
>>15460684lize, ange, mito all having shit numbers as well.
>peko barely crosses 10k>holo 3D live with guests <30k>bunch of mid tiers holoJP at primetime <5kdear god, the number drought we got todayif this lasts, we might need to change the daily list to include >5k else there might not even be one in some days.
>>15460747>as much as you didThat's 3k vs 7k difference
>>15460684Numbers bad for all chubbas across the board.80k+ watching RTAinJapan might explain part of it though.
Maybe YouTube added the EN cull to JP now
>>15460777>guest
>>15460768>>15460755It seems that only girls were affected, are there any examples with men?
I want the November 2021 back, i can't stand those numbers anymore...
any ancient numberfriend that knows how GDQ affects numbers for regular streamers at twitch
>>15460728I know what you mean, that early plateau was the first thing that triggered warning signs.It was happening way earlier than the YT check bot would even be done checking waiting room viewers too.
>>15460791fucking up is fucking up in my book when you have to get 3 digits correct when you have easily accessible sources.
>>15460777It's because of Namibia live stream huh,
>>15460803i think it might be just the fact that Twitch isnt affected by any cull, so they look even bigger in comparison
>>15460413If I'm not wrong, going from top to bottom, left to rightBotan + PekoraAyameOkayuLamy KanataPolka(?) + NeneAkiFubuki + MioMel
Any big face streamers like jun or ludwig that stream today so we can compare the data?
Stop coping bros, it's not youtube. Obviously JP kids are all visiting their grandparents and are all busy pounding mochis, do you even watch anime?? sigh.
>>15460389That's just thishttps://youtu.be/zCpwjV3XMwI
>>15460867ill pound your fucking mochi
>>15460845my number is still more accurate
What in the fuck? The next highest SC in the collab is Lui with 20k...
>>15460389List of guests & songs:>Rune ga PikattoPeko Towa Bota>Diamond CrevasseAZKi Towa>Walkure ga TomaranaiNene Suisei Towa>Ichido dake no Koi naraAyame Kanata Towa>Hametsu no JunjouMio Okayu Towa
>Namibia has a huge collab on with Oryx and Ostriches>Can't even hit 3.2kOkay, what did Susan do?
>>15460829mysta, yashiro, gatchman are all on shit numbers as well
>>15460904Chloe getting 9k during the viewercaust in a huge splitstream collab kind of demonstrates how heavily she has her fanbase by the balls
>>15460806It's never been an EN only thing, JP reclined hard too in december 2020.
Nijien continues to motivate people to use streamlabs
>>15460863I'm guessing Suisei+Nene, given the trio they had for Nene the other day.
>>15460935She's impostor, she was below Iroha before.
>>15460867Sure Susan
>>15460946>it's not EN-onlyPolling irregularities say otherwise
By next year everyone is going to become a 3view, we need to boycott susan.....
Do you like it?
>>15461008am i gonna have to actually get treated for numberrotgod damnit
>>15460992>pic without time
>>15460992NICE CROP BROEVERY FUCKING TIME, SHOW THE DAMN POOL TIME FFS
Susan hate vtuber cause the streamers she poached from twitch lose in ccv to some 2d anime girl/boy
>>15460920They peaked at 6k yesterday (or earlier today, I don't quite recall). Must have been some bad Oryx guests or something
>>15460992Kiara had 200% participate on her poll as well.
I told you this will happen as soon as holos started getting likes double or even triple the amount of their peak ccv...haachama's view count was an early sign among others too
>>15461028No, it's like watching the stock i invest in crash.
>>15460918So Macross live
>>15461108Buy the dip
>>15460992Is there any recent JP poll for comparison? Besides, you can clearly see the cull happened to JP too from the charts.
>>15461008It's the new December tradition for Youtube, slash ccvs.
>ENs views get halved virtually overnight this time last year>"It was just a natural passing of interest, cope ENfag, there's no CCV cull">JPs views get halved virtually overnight >"IT'S A CONSPIRACY SUSAN IS OUT TO KILL VTUBING WITH THIS CULL"Is it time to apologize?
You know, with YouTube’s constant fuckery of their CCV system, if Cover or Anykara were public companies it would absolutely fuck them wouldn’t it?
>>15461146lmao
>>15461146Are there any legit reasons those drops could happen or is it really just YT culls?
>>15461173apologize to this*points to chest*
So... After new year, their numbers will back to normal, right?
>>15461052In 10 minutes, Kiara collected 3-4k votes, and received 7k later. This result makes no sense to count, too many tourists could have visited the stream during this time. Also, do not take into account polls at the beginning of the stream and lasting more than 5 minutes.
none of you animay pedos shall count as views on my good jewish platform
>>15461173JPs got culled last year too retard
>>15461196it's people tabbing in when pekora gets close to the end of the fight and tabbing out when she dies
>>15461125Im short selling this bitch
I don't wanna say it, but it must be said. It seems that nijiEN numbers doesn't change much and actually inclining. Moshikashite, are we actually coping holobros?????!!!!!!
Mysta's poll got 20k votes since the stream started.
>>15461148the last one I can remember is haachama X suisei collab, where they had a poll but that was in September...
itt, bunch of holocopes lmaooo>Holo reclining>NijiJP reclining>NijiEN inclining
>>15461250Mysta should get 10k+ if it wasnt for the cull
>>15461250>Mysta went from 8k to 4k>Doesn't change much and actually inclining
>>15461250>I don't wanna say it, but it must be said>Moshikashiteheh
>>15461250Sucks the boys had their subs culled so many times too, Mysta and Vox would’ve been at 100K by now.
Flare hit 1k for a sec
>>15461320>Petra went from sub 1k to 2k
>>15461146Pakora, my chicken is getting cold...
>>15460732>Dangit Towa, did you not mean to reveal this so early?she just changed the date, it was 2021.
My indie oshi usually gets 300-400, she currently has 250 for a one POV collab
FLARE REACHED 1K WE DID IT
>>15461320
>>15461292If it was just Holocopes NijiJP declining wouldn't be brought up. It's JPcope.
So everyone seems to get culled around 40%-50% of their usual numbers.
>>15461408not that you said it Ahoge gets 100~ views for singing and i saw it today at 50~ shits weird today
dont reply to the retarded cooldown baitposter
>>15461416Where is the collab with Petra?
So its agreed that there’s another cull? The numbers drop seem too widespread. Even the indies I check on seem to have dropped from 3views to 2views
/#/ bros, maybe it's 寝よ for the day...
>>15461470The stream is still on
Compared to the Collab 2 months ago
We’ll just have to wait for the 31st for the New Years events……..
>>15461146Drop and rising drop and rising on repeat
>>15461527jesas
>>15461527Amogus fatigue
NijiEN To The Moon!
>>15461527How fucking wacky. It's either genuinely holiday fuckery, Susan fuckery, or whatnot. Alright, pack it up boys it's time to take a nap until the new year passes because numbers gonna be SHIT until then.
>>15461527>50% cullJesus...
Predictions for the akirose stream?
>>15461578The numbers will only be more shit from now on, anon...
>>15461498It's not only the number drop. Like this anon said >>15460842Number platued too early and too stable for it to be "normal", like it suddenly hit a "wall" and doesnt move pass it. Same with when it decline, it's too "stable" then platued again at a more exact number like 8k, 7k, 5k when it usually 8.2k, 7.8k, 5.1k and flinching on around when it platued
>>15461657800-1k
>>15461657I don't think she can get to four figures
how funny that this happened the day watame gets gold, it's almost like it has some magic behind it
>>15461725Oh no...
>>15461725Watamage's spell backfired.
>>15461725oh Jesas...
calling in all the mages! we must fix the mess that susan has made
Konichiwa or whatever you weebs use. Last Christmas, I sought to kill the vtuber menace and ordered hololive numbers be cut in half. However, my pajeets were only aware of HoloEN and only hit them. This year, I've finished the job. Happy Holidays!
>>15461725>>15461785Goddamit watamage
>>15461725I wonder who could be behind this spell
Aki had 756 waiting. Let's see how it goes
Laplus imposter. About to hit 14k. Big numbers aren't happening today. Rushia/laplus did well.
>>15461233>No proof JPs got culled>meanwhile ENs regularly get 200% poll engagement showing that their CCVs are at least 2x what Susan shows
>>15461725It definitely happened in the past days too. I explicitly remember some fuckery happening during Haachama's last MC strea, for example.
>Now they believe in the cullOh no no /jp/ bros I thought it was all copium?
>>15461845Just got cut in half
>>15461785shoulda ask guramage to cast reflect
>The cull is only real now that it's happening to HoloJPThe absolute state of this thread
>>15461928Fucking love to see it
>last samurais coping so hard at the JP cull when they would spend paragraphs denying EN lost half their viewers to Susan before kek
>>15461845JESAS
>>15461875>>15461928Are you new?
>>15461928this is truly /hlg2/ ........
Lamy barely reached 1k, Aki only 400....
>>15461928You’re now just realizing this thread is HoloJP biased?
>>15461875>>15461858where do niggers like that come from?
>>15461875>>15461928We never said there wasn't a cull, just that it didn't specifically affect EN
>>15461875Anon... it's happening to EN too, just like it happened to JP too in 2020.
Any jp numberbros reaction today?
>>15460671wanna give some examples?
>>15461958>I-it was only 20-30% and JP was affected too!>the polls are meaningless please provide me your freshest evidence!
>>15462081they're still mourning the cold chicken
>>15462079Cope, JP only had like 10% shaved off last year while EN was hit for more than 50%, the culling is just catching up to JP now. All EN live views and VODs should have been doubled for the real numbers this past year if you aren't a disingenuous /jp/shitter.
>>15461785at times like this we need not the twofaced help from pagan witches, we must turn our hopes for our Lord. Repent, /#/, REPENT!! Or the end of numbers, the final yab, shall soon be upon us all!!!
>>15461527Assuming it's not a cull, here are some reasons I can think of:>Pekora's chicken had some viewers stop watching Hololive >Matsuri debuff>Old viewers don't want to watch HoloX as much as other holos
cool so we have a bunch of newfags who never even saw one of graphanons posts that clearly showed the culls or lobotomies pretending to be that new
>>15461845 (me)From 250ccv to 400 her likes went up from 500 to 1k
Nene struggling to get 3k for Minecraft is particularly egregious since she regularly gets around the 10k mark for that
>>15462092Nah. But I did notice that she seem to show up in collab a lot, I think it's because she is easy to invite?
>>15461527Ehhh EN CCV got culled by about 30-40% at most and doubling vod views is stupid but other than that I agree
What's with the chicken nonsense, I havent been gone that long
Where are all these people coming from claiming that no one in /#/ of all places believes that a CCV cull happened when it has been acknowledged for a long time?Are you the same shitposters that come here pretending that the cull didn't happen and that 'x is reclining'?
>>15462239Schizo
>>15462151Are you seriously implying the thread doesn't derail with /jp/ schizos denying the cull every time it's mentioned? Suddenly the cull was always an accepted fact? Come on.
>Turns out CCV is unreliable as fuckLMAOAbsolutely states of /#/ thread
>>15462162Yup, susan definetly put a new cull. I've always watch aki and she never being this low. There's always 1k-2k rosetai that will tune up at whatever she's doing at any given time.
>>15462242It's just last samurai faggots trying to falseflag and claim there's a cull now when they didn't believe it did before, watch them try to claim that EN numbers aren't culled compared to JPs.
>Cursed by Watamage for shitting her anniversaryLMAO
>>15462283Stop samefagging you subhuman seanigger
>>15461928this thread always mentions the cull from last year that effected all views. it seemed to affect en more.
>>15462257Nobody is denying the cull, we just tell you to fuck off when you retards say shit like EN CCV got halved while JP wasn't touched
https://streamable.com/vbqeng
>>15462338Cope, YWNBJ
>>15462257yes it was.fuck we had a post with some estimates. Niji JP lost like 10-15% holojp 20-25% and HoloEN 30-35%. people just made fun of the shizoid who would say that holoEN had like 50%+ cull or that its only HoloEN that got culled>listening to shizosnigga you dumb
Sure nothing fishy
>>15462162This is what proper cull looks like. Likes higher than ccv.
>>15462148>Pekora's chicken had some viewers stop watching HololiveI doubt this. Pekora is famous for having a viewerbase who only watch her and maybe other people who is associated with her.Pekora losing viewers shouldn't affect Hololive as a whole
>>15462349Proof that EN CCV is halved right here >>15460992, keep denying. Nothing like this ever happens to JPs.
>>15462253Right so there wasn't a chicken cooking stream I missed?
>>15462371Bro... the fucking CCV is literally freeze. I used 3 device on aki stream at differe interval and the numbers are fucking constant/didnt change
Pekora broke 12k. Not much but we will get what we can
Is chicken getting culled too? 3.7k for handcam is kinda low even for Kiara
>>15462412Don't worry anon, it will starting with today.It's funny to have lived through the EN cull, literally see Gura go from 40k to 20k overnight, and listen for an entire year to wannabe graph readers that "n-no it wasn't 50%". Then suddenly the exact same thing happens the next year.
>>15462259kek, this.
>>15462345>ignoring all the faggots claiming that ccv cull is not real to support their shitpostsBut kidding aside hopefully this more obvious cull makes it so that people won't compare youtube ccv to twitch live viewers
Lmao this is pretty hilarious
>>15462412How many minutes into the stream was that? And when's the last time any JP used the poll function?
>>15462399Yes, it's probably the weakest reason there. If that was it, it'd probably only make a difference of a few hundreds, maybe 1 or 2 thousand at most
May be it's time to graduate # thread if this keeps up.
>>15462412youtube polls like this are often posted in this thread, from jp and en. Relax schizo.
>>15462412>Proof>pic without time
>>15462259ratio niggers are salivating.
>>15462412>Nothing like this ever happens to JPSo you are new. Poll votes to CCV has always been screwed with JPs as well do your fucking reps
>>15462555>>15462581>i-it happens to JPs too>not a single pic is ever postedThe absolute state of last samurais
>>15462399>>15462538She's lower than other people who were culled lately. A decent number of people have beaten her.
Enschizo strikes back
Is it just me or sometimes the numbers are kinda lag and you have to refreshed the page to she the "real" number displayed
>>15462564i remember that screen capit was 20mins from start of streampoll had 9mins of votei don't remember the stream peak but it wasn't 10k for sure.
>>15462500I've been watching Pekora since early 2020 and she also reclined hard in december. Not sure if the recline was harder for EN or not, but it definitely happened to JP too last year. Only a newfag would say otherwise.
even mori already knew about the cullhttps://streamable.com/vbqeng
>>15462616Uhhhh, I don't think that have to do with the fact her decline shouldn't affect Hololive as a whole
let's get back to some positive numbers. This is pretty good.
>>15462371Aki's average isn't that big. It usually averages between a few hundreds to 2-3K outside of big events
>>15462545No, it needs to keep going, forced to start numberfagging VODs instead, to have to live with the fact that it spent months obsessed with a meaningless metrics youtube has done its best to skewer and fuck with.
>>15462640This is true on mobile more than PC, but it happens sometimes.That's not what's happening today though.
>>15462640Happens rarely, but yes the viewer counter can freeze, especially if you are on a phone. But it's just a visual bug.
>>15462652You're comparing a 10% natural decline for JP with a whopping 50%+ artificial cull for EN
>Kiara getting less viewers for a handcam stream than her Mario Kart stream a few days agoIt looks like EN is effected too.
It's fucking hilarious likes are climbing faster than ccv in real time.
>>15462674Nigga Aki started low but she always avg at 1.5k - 2k every stream. This number is too weird. Just go to her stream and you'll notice the strange flunctuation on her number displayed
>>15462674Yes, but at one point she had 530ccv and 1,5k+ likes
Oh god this thread is just full of JP workshiper all along, you even beat the EN defenders Lmao
It doesn't really seem like EN got hit with the cull this time around though. They got slightly lower numbers but nothing like JPs, so that can be explained by normal holiday debuff.
>>15462734Almost same ccv to like ratio. Yep, EN got culled even more this time
>About 20 minutes in>under 600 viewers>over 1.6k likesFUCK YOU SUSAN! DON'T MAKE KYOANI YOUR HQ!!
>>15462652EN got hit HARD, I don't have the numbers with me but iirc gura went from a 42k~ median to a in December 25k~ in a single month when she was fluctuating from around 40k~ in September to November, if any anons have the chart then please show it
So how big is the culling now?Can I claim that my chuuba has 10x the number that shows yet?
>>15462681total views, views/video, views/subscribers, views over x period of time per video.Fuck, /#/ is just going to be depressing. Only ratio lovers will still be here.
>>15462794Only if you're EN, JP only has a 2x cull.
>>15462766Anon, what time of day is it?! It's currently JP/SEA time and that means JP/SEA viewers are gonna be flabbergasted at the absolute state of numbers for ALL chubbas.
>holokart wont even get 80k combined ccv
>>15462734So far. She's at 4213 and still rising, MK was at 4570 maximum. This isn't very conclusive proof.
>>15462713No, it was definitely bigger than 10%. Stop pulling numbers out of your ass in the Holy Numbers thread you fucking infidel.
>>15462823This thread spent months denying that HoloEN didn't suffer a 50% drop and now suddenly it's real when it happens to JP, lmao.
how's the daily top looking
>What's the point of /#/ thread now?YT literally can change the numbers when ever they want
>>15462851Todays amongus got 87k, but yea if they dont fix it until then it will be fucking depressing
>>15462879people like you are the reason graph anon doesn't visit us anymore
>>15462883Ghastly
>>15462883Sad and Watame Gold.
>>15462788Zuck told Susan to sabotage the vtubers so they don't become a superior form of escapism to the metaverse
>>15462883
>>15462938You mean he doesn't because last samurai jpshitters took over the thread and started shitting on EN unfairly
Fuck this shit. Im done with number with this kind of bullshit! Fuck susan!
>>15462909>NowWe warned you anon, we told you about the CCV for 13 months!
my fav 3view oni numbers for comparisonshe usually has around 300
jesas
This happened yesterday too...These numbers are not normal.And it affected globally...Median chart gonna be fucked up to anyone streaming these days.
>>154628792020 December cull is different than the ones ENfags pull out of their ass in September unless it's foreshadowing
>>15462641You're lying, poll started 9 minutes after the start. How can a poll that takes place 9 minutes after the start, when a lot of people come in and out of the stream, count?
>>15462909Lol the fuck is anyone going to do about it? Unless you want to change your business model completely and go to Twitch. YouTube doesn’t give a fuck. They copystiked Ludwig after paying him millions to switch to their platform
>>15462982Shut the fuck up seething globalfag. You're the newfag who got BTFO over not knowing 25:00 aren't you
Mea utawaku is sub 1k, shes reclined pretty hard since the chinkocaust but she gets a consistent 1-2k on these, cull seems real
>>15462909Susan got mad because she paid a gorillion dorra to ride Ludwig's dick only to get royally owned by Holos and that won't do!
Pekora got under 20k, none of the amogus collab got close to 20k. The End is near.
Pekora number is rising rapidly!!! I think She's getting close
Aki ccv keeps jumping up almost 1k now
>Cull seems real now that nips are affectedAbsolute state of /#/
>>15462792You have any idea what kind of numbers Pekora was pulling in that same period? Micra streams were fluctuating from 50 to 70k. She got hit as hard.
>Aki>900 viewers>2.4k likesThis is even more fucked than usual, it was double at worst before.
>>15463055>still butthurt that no one besides obsolete nips and retarded weebs use that stupid method of counting timeThere are only 24 hours in a day you fucking retard
Like > view
ILLEGAL
>>15462734I've never seen Ame with less than 1k people in waiting room prior to these two weeks too.Mumei also got shit numbers for a comeback stream (overlapping with Gura, but still) I'll be waiting for Ina's stream today to make a final conclusion.
>I'm just going to repeat what I said over and over again>They will think I'm rightRetarded.
16.888. Good job Pekochan
>Two days with lower than usual numbers for both normal Niji and Holo>/#/ is dead set that there is a new CCV cull in placeHow about wait for another week for more data? You guys are so damn fast to make your assumptions. There might be a new cull in place, but it might just as well be the result of Christmas + New Year and everyone all over the world is busy as hell to watch VTubers. At least wait until Holo and Niji's New Year celebration streams to BOTH get lower numbers than last year (~110-120k each IIRC) before speculating about a cull. VerseN's numbers, for example, seems to be more or less the samehttps://vrabi.ml/channel/UCi3aT9cC6YyC0BnOpm2XBEw
>>15462788low views like this always have more likes anyway. Box pushers who are not bothered to stay to watch .
>susan wants to turn YT into streaming platform>fucks with numbers again and againFuck you susan. We have to take note of another cull and cant compare month-to-month again
>>15463193>has to rely on tourists because all her dedicated fans have cold chickenPakora...
>>15463055>Oh god name callingThis is the # thread ways now? This is really just a JP workshiper thread all along
>>15463151You are surely aware that you can like even the waiting room of a video you didn't even watch, right?
>>15463151HOLY SHIT, YOU JUST REMINDED ME OF THE 2VIEWSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPLEASE SAAAAAVE THEEEEEEEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>15463196Wow a rational anon
>last samurais get caught out believing there's a cull now that nips get hit>backpedaling and claiming there's NO cullThe absolute state of /#/
Is there a way to track the number of people who type/engage in chat. That's probably a good way to confirm the cull
>>15463249They're 1views now anon
>>15463196cull is definitely real, only question if its just a test/temporary fuck up from the pajeet coders
>>15463242Anon it is nothing less than unnatural for the number of likes to match maximum views unless it's a super long stream
>>15463196Every stream has more likes that viewers. Considering nips rarely bother hitting the like button it means CCV is being massively understated for some reason. This was not the case a week ago.
>>15462792All of EN got close to 50% of their numbers cut.
Just to confirm, Pekora got the highest ccv this month right?
>>15463196Yes, I'm also advocating for this, I think this has more to do with holiday shit than another goddamn CCV change, and Aki's Likes had more to do with being overlapped by the AMONGUS collab so a lot of people were tabbed out (WE KNOW THIS IS CULLED, THIS ONE ISN'T NEW) and are now tabbing back in since it's finished. Same deal with Kiara.
>>15463027It's a superchat reading, it's not a good tracking point
>>15463223thank you schizo! You're unending hatred continues to strengthen my research, keep nibbling away my favorite lab rat!
Vtubers should migrate to Twitch at this point.
>>15463223Numbers are numbers anon. If you still want to talk about Pakora or whatever, fucked off to /jp/
>2 faggots spamming on cooldownAt least stop using the word last samurai so you don't get outed as easily you braindead retard
>>15463356God-Emperor Kenmochi Touya
nijichads always winning, slow and steady baby
>>15463356No It's FBK
>>15463334>Anon it is nothing less than unnatural for the number of likes to match maximum views unless it's a super long streamIt's not unnatural. Actually it happens all the time with Haachama videos (for instance)
>>15463368Even with the culled numbers, I wouldn't want to subject them to twitch culture.
>>15463227No, that's the one /jp/ assmad fucker who for some godawful reason decided to sit in numbers and shit things up instead of fucking back off to /jp/ or the katakana Hololive thread. Always seething about 'globalfags' but insists on sitting on the board that was made because of globalfags and thus is surrounded by globalfags and yet for some reason has the gall to bitch, like the neighbor you moved away from but then they moved beside you only to start complaining like an idiotic lout.
What happens now? Vtubers actually trying to ironically protest Kek?
>>15463426
>>15463426The only niji talent hit 10k today is Mito and it was fucking collab
>>15463426>Niji will eventually win just by Youtube culling Hololive into the ground at the end of each yearNot like this...
>just checked what will become the daily top for todayThere is a cull, but Holo JP will be overperforming as usual
>>15463124She can still pull 50-70k couple of weeks/months ago whereas Gura can't even get 40k anymore save for some massively buffed stream, Gura's views still move at an almost similar ,though slower, rate from pre december but her vods are pretty much slashed. Another thing I noticed is that Myth's anniversary got 70k~ while gen 3 got 100k~ but in the span of like 2 weeks the Myth anniversary passed the gen 3 anniversary even though that vod was pretty much a year old
>>15463268Either by using a scraper or using the youtube/google live api. But the api-only really works for the duration of the livestream.
>>15463095it's unfortunate miko did not get imposter, should have a chance for 20kla+ instantly got like 3k+ just for being imposterthe ccv is completely fucked the last couple amongus she had 20k waiting roomit's like half of the japanese are dead or something
>>15463368nah, time to revive nndif you really want big numbers, blbl will give you some
>>15463426slow and steady
>>15463462Anon please take your meds
>>15463362Even the she's never had a stream anywhere near that low, SC reading or not. She caught a small funnel from Amogus but it's still her lowest ever CCV in a year when she did plenty of SC readings
>>15463356If you are after the highest peak, yes. If you are after Median of peaks, no.
>>15463496the funny thing is that nijijp's only got affected a little bit, same goes with nijien.it's weird how shitworks, but expect anycolor to be retards and shit out more en waves to mess up this chance
>>15463196Anon, we're not saying that there isn't decreased numbers due to Holiday season, because we already knew that. What we're looking at is either someone fucking with the culling system or a permanent cull for everyone based on usage parameters. Even events that would have otherwise gotten above 50k CCV are well under 40k CCV now.>>15463213Anon, that was a 20 minute snapshot, not a 2 hour stream. Everyone watching Aki is a Rosetai at that point.
>Hololive get the most gold>Rabbit got 187k, beating Niji MKThe seething is understandable, honestly. See you next month.
>>15463360>>15463196JP twitch numbers are unaffected. Only yt numbers dived
>>15463426slow and steady, to the grave, the nijisanji way!
After all, the holobots weren't a joke?
Pekora have 2 day left to beat our boy Sans. Lets see if she can do it
>>15463426going where?
Cover should just start making their talents post a 1 min long poll in the middle of streams and use the number of votes as their viewership when making deals with sponsors. Youtube can't cull that.
>>15463625it took the holojps to get massively culled to make numberfaggots believe it kek
>>15463581>still bringing up PakoraStop clinging to the past bro. She can't even hit 20k with massive Amogus funnel.
>>15463124>>15463337
>>15463368Tell your boss to fire all the troons and we'll think about it.
>>15463660cover literally does not give a shit about CCV, the numbers they use for sponsorships are sales figures and subs
Doesn't this mean every region has equal playing ground now that everyone is fucked?
weird, the collab with petra boosted her numbers but slightly decreased mysta's, might be due to timezone faggotry but still an interesting thing to note
>Numbers suddenly increase accross the boardFuck this shit man. This is another one of pajeet's fuckery at yt
>>15463196>Christmas + New Year >JP caring for anything but sex on Christmas>SEA biggest countries are Muslim>December 29 is a relatively normal workday for most Christian countriesThe numbers are strange, anon. And the way YT bot is behaving is strange too as noted here >>15460842
Fat cat numbers are respectable
>>15463726Pretty sure any sponsor paying for a stream is going to want to know how many eyeballs will be on it.
>>15463522>She can still pull 50-70k couple of weeks/months agoOn regular non-collabs/special events? Fuck no she can't. What are you even watching?
>>15463776that's what vods are for
>>15463726>sales figures and subsThe only numbers that matter to boomers. You know... the people with actual money at the moment.
No wonder Pekora's Undertale seems low. Should be at least around 30k without the cull
>>15463755>huge collab funnels into two holos barely limping to the 17k range means the numbers are "normal" again
>>15463788Even sponsors don't give a fuck about VOD views
>>15463576>for everyoneLol no. Only for popular people talked about in this thread. Plenty of people still get the same numbers.
>>15463776they have much better metrics available for the channel owner, like the real avg watch time, unique viewers, etc
>>15463768its a collab with subaru...
>>15463776Most contracts are based on unique viewers instead of ccv for exactly this reason. They have access to much better metrics for advertisers
>>15463831It's not just holo's. Even the 2views and others number suddenly increase 40-50%
hey, at least the chammer inclined again with her schizo shit
Okay I believe I have the smoking gunOn the left is Watame's 3D from August when she announced her sololive, she had 3,160 individual users commenting in her chat and peaked at 42k live viewersOn the right is her anniversary 3D today, she had 4,786 individual users in her chat but supposedly on 28k viewers at most
>>15463859That is literally what sponsors care about, apart from engagement links
>>15463768I expect 40k+ for offcollab
>>15463900Are you sponsor?I'm sure they care about vod views if they're youtubers that only post videos, but streamers is a different story
>>15463859https://youtu.be/cuhvq-f51F0?t=275Yes they do
>>15463896More chatters/members are inclined to spam during a karaoke, whereas there was no singing during that other 3D right? Or at least if there was there was nowhere near as much.
>>15463896>everything higher except ccv
>>15463947Why would they not care about views, you tard? the simple answer is they care about both to varying degrees.
>>15463692If you actually interpret the numbers you can see Pekora was inclining hard before the cull. If you normalize the curve the loss of viewers is closer to Gura's than it seems at first look.Also proves how the cull happened to JP too, so gtfo EN fags.
>>15463896Need a more solid evidence than this. Unique users are heavily subjected to the whims of the audience. We can't rely on a metric like that.
>>15463896good catch
>WHAT CULL?Okayu hitting 17k with a regular ass basic bitch Mario Kart stream without anything special or gimmicks
>>15463947What are archived streams you fucking mongoid
I don't know, Kanae and Ange's numbers seem normal. Thread smells of holocope.
>>15463859Sponsors check referral links engagement then vods.
>>15464011Yes, definitely just Okayu in that stream. This is 100% not a collab with 1 POV featuring one of the top 5 holos in it.
>>15464011Was it you who posted same shit yesterday? Are you blind?
>>15464011Are you retarded or something?
>>15464035the cull targeted holostreamers funny enough
>>15463947Are you? You keep pushing the idea that sponsors on youtube don't care about VOD when VOD and subs are literally the only two figures youtube discloses to the public record.Now get me an actual fucking contract that says that they don't care about VODs or you're full of shit
>>15464011...It's a one POV collab with Subaru? And if it's like yesterday then it's an off collab as well.
>>15464035All the Niji numbers are normal. Seems like the cull only affects holo.
>>15463778>>15463692Look at the pre and post december numbers for peko, gura and all of EN peko DID get culled but she wasn't hit as hard as EN, peko also got 60k+ from jumpking and pokemon recently which are buffed but solo / non-event stream and Gura hasn't even gotten a regular, non-even solo stream past 40k in a couple of months now.
>>15464002The pattern, yes but EN get fucked harder.
>>15464076>>15464080>>15464082Have (you) forgotten the "Reddit duck" schizo already ?
Could Susan have lengthened the time required to count as a viewer? That might explain the plateau and fuck with streams that tend to have tab-in peaks
>Sponsor-san, this chuuba has 1 million VOD views on our shill stream but only 10k>Pathetic, never hire them againThis is actually what goes on in the mind of CCV schizos. Imagine being btfo by common sense, Susan, what actual youtubers say and still persisting in your delusions.
>>15464035oh so Mito and her collab guest are just unpopular?
>>15464080>Was it you who posted same shit yesterday?
>>15464011Shubaschizo, is that you? I know your hatred of Subaru is great, but I don't want to think it is so great that you would memoryhole her entire existence in the stream...
>>15464097>cull only affects holoHolokeks, explain yourself. Why are you using bots?
How the fuck does tourist view even work? How do these people know when she's about to beat Sans to tune in?
ON ANOTHER TOPIC>https://www.tubics.com/blog/what-is-a-vtuberfound this when l was looking up any references to YT ccv changes grom the past few days.its a write-up likely for marketers and advertisers about vtubers in general.hopefully with more articles like these popping up, EN/ID chuubas can get better and/or more prestigious sponsors and projects.Though I have to add, had Miko actually try this month instead of fucking around racking a third of her watch time compared to November, we'd actually see vtubers dominating the Q4 female most watched streamer list and probably get a lot more headlines in the westernsphere.
>>15464151Unironically, yes.
>>15464218Listening but tabbed out. They tab back in when the Sans fight starts
>>15464151yep
>We should get use to the fact that 10k is top tier numbers from now onNumberbros...
>>15464218They're tabbed out and can hear her get excited. yet another amazing youtube feature making CCV numberfagging insanely inaccurate for shit like zatsus and karaoke
>>15464035>>15464097>samefags and liesNiji is not used to getting only one or two 10k streams every day for an entire week lol
>>15464271Next year will be better
>>15464002>ENs were also inclining pre december>ENs literally got culled more compared to JPs, not only Peko>somehow this proves that the cull was equalAnon I...
>>15464151Yes, in comparison 479 people are watching Naruse Naru right now. The niji guy who averages less than 200 viewers.
Even all my 3views with 99.9% JOP viewers have more likes than live views
>>15464297In reality niji always has weak day to day numbers.
This thread is a mess along with all the fuckery going on right now.I'll just hibernate until March arrives...
>>15464284You could see this in action in thread today when some of us were commenting on Koyori's Jump King stream. She had constant fluctuations between 9k and 10k as she got closer to beating the game and failing.
These numbers are sad. The fact that Watame got gold with a sub 30k stream proves pajeetube did it again
>>15464389>Started streaming 2 hours ago
>Lulu sub 2kSusan...
>/#/ tier list in 2023>>S-Tier5k+ ccv>>A-tier2k+ ccv>>B-Tier (median)1k+ ccv>>C-tier500+ ccv>>D-Tier100+ ccv>>E-Tieractual 2 viewsThis may be your future, you chose for this /#/
>>15464467It literally happening right now on an even greater scale with Pekora stream
Stop lying, even nijis' numbers are lower. .t nijifag
>>15464486not like this
>>15464486
>>15464470Fuck I posted the cropped part
>>15464521The numbers are very normal for Kanae and Ange. They're the highest ones right now. Kanae Valorant is usually 7-8k and Ange zatsu 8-10k.
Why the fuck you idiots haven't switched completely to using likes is beyond me>Multiple MONTHS of evidence to suggest CCV is the worst metric to use for numberfagging>Use it anyway
>>15464470Lize and Yashiro not even 20K explain this.
>>15464511I was just pointing out that this isn't unknown, an in fact a common occurrence since the culling started a year ago.
>>15464470I think nips are just moving to their families just like burgers were on thanksgiving. If these numbers persists after around 5th of January then something may be wrong..
>>15464486It's gonna end with youtube discontinuing live viewer numbers due to the increased stress it leads to the content creators. The same bullshit reason they used for removing public exact subscriber numbers.
friend started late today.
>>15464098Yeah but that's because Pekora naturally gets more CCV than Gura for regular streams. I don't get what you're trying to say.>>15464316Have you seen Miko, Shion, Korone, Flare, Polka or Nene numbers? Some of them culled close if not harder than EN. Explain.
>>15464636Sigh yea. I can absolutely see them doing it but it's still FUCKING VISIBLE TO STREAMERS ANYWAYS SO NOTHING WILL HAVE CHANGED.
AKI GOT 1K, NATURE IS HEALING
Nenechi 3.6k viewers 7.5k likes. Even factoring in churn that's not right.
>>15464470>>15464577so the niji collab keeps getting less and less viewers each day
>>15464577If only Migo had gotten imposter, we could've possibly had another 20k. Numbers overall had been lackluster. I pray this year ends soon.
Bog died, that's why the numbers are down
>>15464592CCV raise and fall are much more enjoyable.
>>15464743>started 2 hours agonewfagchama...
>>15464486I can already see it>SPeko, Marine, etc>ASubaru, Miko, etc>BLamy, Okayu, etc>CTowa, Nene, etc>DChoco, Mel, etc>EID, Stars, etcmeanwhile whores and indies in twitch keeps their ccv because bezos actually wants to make money instead of what the fuck Susan is doing
>>15464802That's abnormal after 2 hours retard, at least for JP streams
>>15464812>instead of what the fuck Susan is doingthose types of people are always getting money from elites because they promote views which accelerate the revolution.
>>15464577>Can we have a solo gold?No events and collabs>Solo list today:1.FBK2.Pekora3.Gura
>>15464799>Bog is a sign for a huge dump and red daysShouldn't the numbers skyrocket since sminem has less competition? fuck I just realized the NASFAQ bros are gonna see a lot of red soon
>>15464481This better for you?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN2QAu9Htc8She doesn't do waiting rooms
>>15464802Nips don't hit the like button.
>>15464918sminem is paying respects
>>15464923>32 minutes agoKek
>>15464592Catto has half as many likes as cucked live views
Yeah no. Stop coping holobronies. Everyone is getting normal viewers but you. Kanae's Valo streams are always around this number.
>>15464888>>15464940You do have a point, but it's still way too long so it's harder to tell how big the cull was for her.
Pajeet Salamandalalakarap, please stop wasting time here trying to justify the mess youve made, just go fix your damn code
>CCV is variable>VOD is consistentTurns out Vod is the most reliable metric
>>15465012This was one hour ago.
>>15465004just let the holobronies cope, it's funnier that way
>>15465049Yeah, that tracks with what I have been seeing from Aki's stream. which had 1k viewers vs 4k likes around that time.
since when was this thread changed from numbers to number?
>>15464605
>the schizo cant stop samefagging
>>15465004cope more nijibronie
>>15465112since newfag seanigger takeover
>>15465004Hima-chan got 5k for Peace Walker 10 days ago, now she's at 2k
>>15465112The thread's name is more or less dependent on who makes the thread (and whatever type of schizos are coming into the thread) at the time.
FBK is getting 12.7k CCV (rising) and 3.4k like, seems normal to me. She isn't hunting shiny so her numbers are lower than her shiny streams, but it seems normal nonetheless. I know Watame and Mito's numbers earlier were lower than usual, but it doesn't have to be a new cull in place. For all we know, maybe nips were busy and just got home from work / party at 11:00 pm instead of the usual 8:00-9:00PM
>>15465175The number of viewers decreased with each stream of this game.
>>15465004makes no political or cultural sense to cull manjisanji, there is a million political and cultural reasons why rich western elites would want to cull hololive
>>15465112Even more evidence of the cull!
>>15465175She is at 2.8k. Her PW stream yesterday got 3.6k. 800 CCV is a reasonable drop. Her 5k PW stream were 10 days ago, it's entirely possible that her fans are just bored of it
It's time to come back to NND, they always welcome chuubas
>>15465312Zuck put the fix in to kill metaverse competition
>>15465442fuck me, that is a bleak future.
We can nuke this thread rnBecause numbers are meaningless now
comiket is tomorrow right? where do we get numbers from that?
All of you need to calm the fuck down and just wait until after the new years. If the numbers are STILL fucked by then, then we can start moaning and bitching about Susan's pajeet coders at it again.
CCV are the best number for discussion because it change constantly. It's like watching a race
>>15465491Anon were just overreacting when a few streams underperformed. Numbers seem normal across the board for both Holo and Niji right now. There are plenty of possible explanation than just a new CCV cull being in place
Petition to use susan as op pic next thread.
>>15465489what numbers do you want from the comket?
>>15465574Might be youtube having problems just now then, yea seems much normal now.
>susan being a bitch>twitch is hostile toward vtubers>nico is dying, also niji turdBros, where do we even go...
It's time to leave this thread bros...bye... I had a great time