/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>15377295
Strange, youtube doesn't cut 2views.

>>15377334
Anon, I was in chats that had two viewers and four active chatters
Chuubas regularly get around 100% participation rate in polls, half the time even more
These numbers aren't right no matter how you look at it

>>15377479
It's easy to get 100% of 2.

But the one I watch gets MORE than 30% of their YouTube CCVs. She's get around the 40's on YouTube and get 60~105 on Twitch.

>>15377525
get some rest. your brain's not working properly

What is this form of debate called where you talk about evidence but don't present it?

>>15377479
Hasn't it occured to you that people dip in and out to vote on chat polls because they are like that? Well, moving to twitch is easier to hide the bots since they haven't really addressed the issue from what I've seen and no audit of views so the numbers are pumped up, even if the top vtuber makes less in bits, membership and ad revenue than even the top vtuber in superchats alone when you compare annual earnings. It's no wonder they use youtube as well to get residual views off clips or VOD archives because they clearly can't survive on Twitch alone.

>>15377629
What about Kiara's stream from few hours ago where she got like 180% participation rate in poll of her rebroadcast stream in ten minutes?

>Trying so hard to get into the livestreaming scene
>Finally it gets traction
>Fucks your creators anyway
>They're starting to leave your platform
I don't understand the logic behind Youtube management
What do they actually want?

>>15377639
Ad revenue is absolute GARBAGE on Twitch vs YT for the same views, and you also don't have the advertising value of VODs sticking around on Twitch unlike YT. It only makes sense to keep both active if you're going to stream on Twitch. Doing short edited highlight reels on YT while streaming on Twitch is how many Twitch streamers double-dip.

>>15377724
Youtube is run by a subset of people that don't understand/like vtubers.
This is the worst thing about these websites, you're creating with a gun to your head at all times.

>>15379223
Ehh, it's not even vtubers isn't it?
Even the people they poach from twitch ended up complaining about them...

>>15380279
not even just vtubers*

>>15377639
Bots on Twitch get sorted out eventually. They had to fix it since it was being weaponized to get streamers banned.
Pic related. That's Ironmouse getting bot-raided. From her twitchstats page.
As for revenue, Mouse is taking home a minimum of 30,000 per month just from subs right now. Probably more since large partners get a better cut.
I have no idea how much she pulls in bits/donos but it probably ads another 15-25K to that.
Estimated about 600K per year takehome isn't a bad income for a 10K ccv streamer.

>>15377567
Is that the new Koala chick?

>>15377295
its probably easier to get into small groups as well