/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1535153
Isn’t her audience just pedos and kids?

>>1535153
Go away Venti

Yeah well you're ugly and have a small dick

>>1535153
Ogey
Rrat

>>1535153
Venti is just seething because she got BTFO on the debut react stream last night.

>>1535227
>>1535376
Did this unwashed tramp say something negative about Gura or something? I keep seeing her name brought up periodically and I'm not going to dig through her dumpster of posts to find the answer.

>>1535153
Gura is a likeable, awkward and funny little loli-impersonator and I'd love her to have less annoying fans and less haters because I feel like most don't appreciate her as much as I and other /vt/ chumbuds do. Also is a sexy brat I want to spank and impregnate

ogey

>>1535518
True.

>>1535518
Started based then ended dangerously based.

>>1535451
QRD: Venti made some videos accusing Gura of encouraging pedophilia and called the chumbuds pedophiles. Gura savagely mocked her in the debut react stream last night.

>>1535518
Gura Love!

>>1535626
Wow, she really has lost it. I'm surprised Gura even paid her any attention. I'll need to watch the stream to see how she responded.

>>1535204
Me and alot of folks enjoy her for her, but yes there are a lot of those fans. Just look at /hlgg/ during her streams.

She's a cutie who is also responsible for making the Ok Boomer song.

>>1535704
It was subtle but obvious.

Of course half of the replies in this thread talking about fucking lolis isn’t exactly proving Venti wrong, but that’s another matter...

The absolute state of Gura antis

>>1535518
based

>>1535775
kek

>>1535153
fuck off, Kiara.

>>1535769
Has no relevance since lolis aren't real. Please don't tell me your brain has rotten to the point of thinking lolicon = pedophilia, because that is seriously a Venti-tier mindset.

Only thing I've seen from gura was when she vacuumed that one room in Luigi's mansion for 20 minutes straight. I was losing my shit the whole time.

>>1535769
Remember this is 4chan; if you express anything less than full embracement of cunny here in any context you will promptly be instructed to go back to you-know-where.

>>1535811
I’m a lolicon/pedophile/whatever and I don’t give a fuck. My girlfriend is 16 and I met her when she was 14.

>>1535153
Why KFP like this?

>>1535775
>Mods allow literally dozens of Kiara hate threads at the same time
>Ban everyone even remotely anti-Gura
Bias much? I'm afraid to keep hornyposting about her at this rate

>>1535869
Anon did you just fucking look at the thumbnail without even opening the picture? Are you a phoneposter?

>>1535769
>Of course half of the replies in this thread talking about fucking lolis isn’t exactly proving Venti wrong
>loli is pedophilia
hello ausie cunt

>>1535863

>breathe
>makes schizos seethe

>>1535626
Timestamp?

>>1535901
Yes to both, what does it matter

Man, triggering you assholes is easy. Ten thousand anti-Kiara threads? Nothing changes. One anti-Gura thread? EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR MINDS

>>1535908
UOOOOOHHHHHHHH

>>1535811
It is factually pedophilia, and stating otherwise is sheer cope. Hentai depicts human illustrations because the human biological drive is attracted to humans. There wasn't some new ascendant form of human sexual preference born alongside 2D porn.
2D porn depicts humans, humans are attracted to humans. If it depicts human children, you're attracted to human children and therefore a pedophile. Simple as that. You aren't a child molester, but you are displaying pedophilic tendencies.

I've said this before but never actually got any response other than "cope seethe" etc so please refute it if you can.

>>1536014
But hentai lolis aren't drawn like actual children. They have curves, asses, even boobs sometimes.
You're talking about toddlecorn.

>>1536014
cope seethe

>>1535992
because Gura antis are not complete schizos spamming threads left and right
go complain on twitter how gura is causing kids to be raped in the streets

>>1536014
I think it's been a while since i've seen this pic
you tranny siccos need to be reminded

Cope.

>>1536174

>>1535862
And rightfully so. Go back to reddilate, tranny.

>>1536014
>it's another drawing=pedo bait
man...

>>1536122
Please don't give people ideas, I'm legit worried that an sjw will stumble onto Gura's sexiest streams and have a meltdown

>>1536216
>>1536174
Please provide an actual argument.

>>1536105
The point doesn't really change whether they're portraying 12 year olds or 2 year olds. I suppose you might call it eboblanophelia or whatever the fuck it's called instead.

>>1536371
you are awfully familiar with the terminology there little pedo

>>1536371
>The point doesn't really change whether they're portraying 12 year olds or 2 year olds
They're portraying adult sexy women but small and with a baby face
Or are you going to tell me a woman isn't a woman unless she has giant boobs?

>>1536371
calm down a little venti, no need be so mad

>>1535626
got timestamp?

>>1536105
tbf anatomy is greatly exaggerated in anime and even more in hentai.

Lets fix Gura by giving her Anya's boobs, not like she's using them

>>1536491
31:33

>>1536690
*31:13

>>1536617
Anya hates them

>>1536416
Why is this such a common loli pedo cope? So many of you aren't actually capable of arguing for yourselves and just start accusing others of being pedophiles.

>>1536437
>they're portraying adult women in tiny bodies
Is this just the "she's 9000 years old" argument repackaged? It doesn't matter how old they say they are if they illustrate them as a barely pubescent. Women without breasts are obviously still women, but there is a stark difference between an adult body with a flat chest and a tiny young body with some ass slapped on. Thanks for actually responding with something though.

>>1536617
yuk
>>1536752
if you think loli=pedo=real kids
you have never been around actual kids
my childhood fiends had little sisters and I have never even thought about them in any sexual way
if you think that drawn petite, tiny flat chested girls represent children then I am sorry to tell you that you are an actual pedo imagining little kids in everything
now shoo and shoot yourself

>>1535153
Why are kfp like this?

>>1536617
that's way too big

Reminder that Gura is not a loli and there's nothing that suggests she is

>>1536752
>but there is a stark difference between an adult body with a flat chest and a tiny young body with some ass slapped on
Not really, to me they look like womenlet at best, or at least the lolis I like.
They might be lolis, JCs, 15yo, middle scholers or whatever, but real life middle scholers don't look like that at all.
But you're kinda right, it's difficult to say "they are drawn sexy" because it depends from the artwork, artist etc.. so it's kinda a grey area. I named toddlecorn because that's obviously fucking semi-pedo shit: the lolis are drawn like potatos with no curves whatsoever, just like real children.
I fap to lolis but I don't find real children attractive at all because they don't have the bodies like the lolis in hentais, which are drawn voluntarily sexy to make you masturbate or get an erection. Children in real life are not sexy, mother nature hasn't designed them like that. Mother nature is not a fat Japanese otaku artist.
In fact most pedos are usually also rapists and other fucked up shit, which means that they get excited by their superiority over children (tricking them, imposing violence on them as they can't resist etc.) rather than anything else or are simply fucked up in the head.

Here
https://youtu.be/9i-bBVOBLlg

>>1536970
shes actually 86 year old asian granny

>>1536205
Many such cases

>>1536970
It's the short twin tails. Her mama needs to give her long hair.

>>1536752
Problem is what most people call pedophilia when dealing with loli is an actual body type that Asian women can have and its perfectly normal to find petite women under 5ft sexy

>>1536742
absolutely based

>>1535153
Her fans genuinely only like her for her model. She's obnoxious and unfunny. She's like the Amy Schumer of vtubers. If she had any other model that wasn't a loli shark, people wouldn't give her nearly as big of a chance. Her "a" meme is the biggest thing she's ever done and will ever do because despite her fanbase and despite her roommate, she's utterly boring and cringey without her dumb shark model.

>>1537467
>If she had any other model that wasn't a loli shark, people wouldn't give her nearly as big of a chance.
>If she had any other model

>>1537467
>She's like the Amy Schumer of vtubers
This isn't a Kiara thread

>>1535153
shark cute

>>1535908
hey i'm aussie and i love gura
don't lump us with the massive poofta

>>1537749
Liking Gura is illegal in your penal colony, sorry. Maybe if you hadn't been defeated and enslaved by the Emu Emirates you wouldn't be in this situation.

>>1537785
huh, since when? don't believe in journo bullshit
if you're talking about gura doujins, fiona patten already reassured that it's all legal

>>1537890
Last time I checked, women under a given cup size weren't actually allowed to have sex regardless of age because all that matters is that things look underage, not whether they really are.
Maybe you should stick to fucking kangaroos instead of risking jailtime.

Today I will remind them.

>>1536014
Yh, I know I'd love to see rape gangbangs of 16 year olds irl since I've watched hentai. Wouldn't horrify me in the slightest. Where my guro enthusiasts at? Giantess? Tentacles? Snuff? It'd be really great and arousing to see all these happen in real life. To me! I'd feel exactly the same way as I do in real life. All porn is basically the same thing as it happening right there, unscripted, in front of you.

It's the same for all my entertainment really. I'm a mass murderer irl and can't get enough of it so between hits I'll play some GTA. Feels exactly the same. Some Postal 2 on the side. Some Hitman here, some GoW there. It's great.

You're not a retard anon, and don't believe any(every)one when they tell you you are one, they're just schizos.

>>1537922
that's all bullshit, we can access pornhub or any other website hentai normally here

>>1537467
>She's like the Amy Schumer of vtubers
I don't even watch the brat but you need to take that back and apologize.

>>1537922
It's not cup size, it's women who look underage and have small tits, which gura fits both.

Source: Second Answer
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/15790/did-australia-ban-small-breasts-pornography

>>1537980
hentai website*

>>1537467
She's geniunely funny, ditzy and cute, but treated as a meme. I can only see you having these opinions if you read reddit memes instead of actually watching her

>>1537950
this but unironically

>>1535862
as it should be
we don't tolerate people who repress their nature here

>>1538043
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2008C00129

The link there isn't working

>>1537467
>Her fans genuinely only like her for her model.
ngmi

>>1537942
I fail to see the problem there.

>>1537467
Nah, that's not true. I like a bunch of Hololive models more than Gura's, but I enjoy watching Gura more than them because she has a cute voice, is great at singing, and is very chill to actually watch stream. It doesn't seem like having a loli model actually gets Hololive any bonus points with fans considering that Luna is very low on sub count and Anya is dead last.

>>1535153
Shut up gura

>>1537980
oh and also this was the loli doujin they were referring to: https://nhentai.net/g/50846/

>>1537950
anon.... pedophilia is just attraction to kids, you don't have to rape kids to be a pedophile.

>>1538269
Luna is sexy princess, not baby

>>1538269
She has tits as a loli, there was no chance for her

>>1538272
then we good?
cuz I am not attracted to kids

>>1536742
Oh I hadn't realized it either, ty

>>1538043
Well according to the fiona patten case, they wouldn't even consider gura human, which is as it should be
Separate 2d from 3d.

>>1538272
Yeah, I agree, and you just have to like watching ISIS beheadings to play Mordhau. I'm pretty sure we're on the same page here?

>>1538272
>fps games are just liking murdering people, you don't have to murder people in real life to be a murderer

>>1538272
Yes, it is attraction to real children. You can't conflate being aroused by illustrations (which are highly stylized and unrealistic) with attraction to three dimensional children. They are separate phenomena. I am certain that there's overlap between the groups (maybe more than non-p*do lolicons would like to admit), but they are separate things.

>>1535153
Venti you will never be as cute as her nor will you make as much money. Ever.

>>1537467
Gura, you’ve just gotta quit being so hard on yourself

>>1538831
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_pornography_depicting_minors

These countries don't think its a separate phenomenon

>>1538893
I'm not addressing legality, but the actual moral character of the acts and dispositions. Being attracted to stylized cartoons and being attracted to three-dimensional living beings are not the same, and will never be the same, regardless of their respective legal status.

>>1538893
They get a lot of those incorrect. Australia is def legal. Also the keyword there is minors, which refer to fictional depiction of real people.

>>1538893
>old men project their pedo onto lolis and want to ban it
wow, surprise!

>>1535153
>OP is an unlikable, uninteresting whore who doesn't deserve all of the positive attention he's getting.
Fixed

>>1538996
All sexualized depictions of people under the age of 18 are illegal in Australia, and there is a "zero-tolerance" policy in place.[4]

In December 2008, a man from Sydney was convicted of possessing child pornography after sexually explicit pictures of child characters from The Simpsons were found on his computer. The NSW Supreme Court upheld a Local Court decision that the animated Simpsons characters "depicted", and thus "could be considered", real people.[5] Controversy arose over the perceived ban on small-breasted women in pornography after a South Australian court established that if a consenting adult in pornography were "reasonably" deemed to look under the age of consent, then they could be considered depictions of child pornography.[citation needed] Criteria described stated "small breasts" as one of few examples, leading to the outrage. Again, the classification law is not federal or nationwide and only applies to South Australia.[6]

>>1535908
Gura doesn't wear panties though

>>1538893
>Virtual images include images, or parts of images, produced and modified with software from actual photos of minors, where the quality makes it so that fake situations are manipulated to appear realistic.
yeah I'm fine
The definition for Russia doesn't even talk about hentais, and many other countires too. The cases they refer are literal 1:1 drawings of children.
Apparently New Zealand is uber cucked tho. Fucking jail for some pixie porn.

>>1538979
Laws are based on morals

>>1535204
Who else is left?

>>1539056
There were recent policy changes as to what constitutes as CSA and they've adopted the international definition based on the interpol baseline (5 CETS categories). You should check the much more recent cases like >>1537980 where Manga/Doujin was exempt from all of that nonsense.

And I say unto you, this: >>1537950 my fellow anons, is the only argument you need to shut down "drawings = pedophilia" arguments.

I don't want to hear any "9000 year old!" or "I see them as petite adults!" faggotry from your lips. Unless you're a closet pedophile, in denial, you don't need to talk about or defend what it actually looks like, just point to every other piece of artistic expression that involves supposedly enjoying extremely horrendous activities, like violent videogames. It cuts to the heart of the issue, and has the backing of TRUTH on its side.

At that point all they typically have is appeal to authority/appeal to the law fallacy.

>>1538893
Literally as I was typing this. Like fucking clockwork

>>1539111
>Fucking jail for some pixie porn.
He wasn't exactly clean anon.
>Clark was previously convicted for indecently assaulting a teenage boy and his lawyer noted that ethical issues complicated the case.

>>1539111
The guy is on probation for the real thing

>>1535775
How is she so cute?

>>1535992
>>1536122
>>1536363
there was that one anti who posted child porn in the global thread (biggest reason I don't lurk it anymore). So i'd say they're as insane as kiara's anti's

>>1539156
Do you really think something being codified as law means that it accurately captures morality? If you do, how do you square that with directly contradictory laws in different countries and the fact that laws have evolved to suit changing attitudes? Anyway, there's no point discussing legal status; it's cut and dry in most places and has no bearing on morality. The point is that it's wrong to label people who consume cartoon porn p*dos. And for the record, I'm not even a lolicon, it's just a dumb argument

>>1535153
meds now

>>1539193
but I do see Gura as a petite adult because that's exactly what she is

My personal rrat is that it's impossible to tell what's part of the act and what's real, so at my most cynical I don't think any of the depression and self deprecation is real

I feel bad for thinking that immediately afterwards every time

>liking petite women is now considered pedo
fat shaming should become a law

>>1535153
I like her voice, and I'm glad she found something to do that makes her happy and lets her share her talents as a career instead of being a depressed, alcoholic NEET.

>>1539435
don't have anything about gura or anyone else really but
depression is not real, it's just weakness of your mind and resolve, stop being sad and be happy

>>1539464
>depression is not real, it's just weakness of your mind and resolve, stop being sad and be happy
I see a retard

>>1539435
It isn't hard to tell what's an act and what's real, and if you're ever in doubt you should err toward whichever makes you happy because their job is to entertain you.

>>1539495
ok weakling
I bet you even fell for the therapist meme

>>1539464
Anon, that's so fucking stupid. No one who has ever been clinically depressed would say that. And, on topic, my narrative which is based in fact is that Gura is indeed clinically depressed

>>1535153
Not sure what's worst, the threads about how good she is or the one of how bad she is...
Pretty sure both of them are retarded anyways

>>1535204
Go back to twitter

>>1539455
She enjoys being in Hololive more than some people believe. Everytime she talks about being hired by them its usually pretty emotional for her. I'm happy for her.

Gura wins the Hololive EN imposter syndrome contest.

>>1539579
I was
I couldnt feel the need to get out of bed, spent sleeping 12 or 15 hours a day and cried during the night
stopped going to all classes, ate like once per day at most drinking ~3 bottles of vodka each week
dreamed about killing myself so hard, fell for the therapist meme and only thing he did was tell me shit I already knew, meds he gave me made me feel even worse and loopy, literally trying to stop any thoughts popping into my head, good or bad
and then I just said fuck it, I cant live like this and killing myself is too good for me and started building myself anew

Why did senzawa leave us bros and become a retarded shark instead

>>1539744
she was always retarded
so not much changed

>>1539520
>I bet you even fell for the therapist meme
No, cause im a faggot who doesn't do anything to better his own life cause I don't believe I deserve it.

>>1539696
I'm happy to hear you got better, but your experience should show you that it's real. Yes, it can be dealt with, without meds or therapy in some cases, but that doesn't mean it's not a real condition with biological underpinnings.

>>1539597
The issue is saying she's good triggers antis and saying she's bad triggers newfriends that will white knight for her. I honestly think her best threads are concernfags or horny threads

>>1539744
probably because senzawa is a sad lazy sack of shit and had enough self-awareness to realize that some structure and expectation being forced on her could help her get her shit together

>>1539056
>[citation needed]
Why is wikipedia so full of shit? Even a quick research could disprove what has been said there. There are no small breast or any hentai bans at all in Aus. This is like saying hentai is banned in the US just because of some edge Handley case when even lawmakers will tell you it's perfectly fine.

>>1539655
>want to be an Impostor
>your wish comes true in the worst possible way

>>1539937
>Country I live in says all porn is illegal
>Completely open internet
>Stripclubs
>Porn is legal in schools
>Lived here my whole life and have no idea wtf this is supposed to mean
Ogey

>>1540057
Underrated curse.

>>1540057
I wonder if it helped her get over it when it became apparent that most of her subs are meme kids who came for A and left. Her supers are behind 30something other holos and she only pulls marginally more viewers than Ina.
The only thing she has left to reasonably feel bad about (though obviously the fault of meme culture cancer, not her) is spoiling all the subscriber milestones for the other holos. The big milestones have been permanently cheapened.

>>1540359
Same here. I live in SEA (PH), and they tell me porn is illegal here? Wtf is this bullcrap wikipedia? We've had playboy and porn magazines since the 90's here and we've been known to be one of the countries who spend the most time in Pornhub.

>>1535153
You could have just said she's an EOP if you want me to shit on her.

>>1539156
>Laws are based on morals
Stop repeating this fallacy. Laws are ultimately made by the assholes who have the most political power. If legality equals morality then slavery was moral, the holocaust was moral, the Cultural Revolution was moral, whatever North Korea is doing to their own population is moral, all genocide is moral when it is done by government, etc.

>>1536014
Your dumb argument has been refuted already so I'll just nitpick for amusement's sake.
>human biological drive is attracted to humans
Fertile humans of the opposite sex to be exact. BOLD assumption that biological drive is anywhere near a well-functioning state in contemporary people, especially here of all places. If that was true full on pedos (attraction to post-pubescent teenagers aside) wouldn't exist in the first place, along with fags, furries and all manner of other mental illnesses.

>>1540491
That's not true though
Her numbers have actually gone down like everyone else's, but she's still at the top.
Her dedicated audience is still in the 17k~23k range at least which is more than most holos, and her average SC earnings per stream is around $2.5k.
She has just gotten used to streaming to a bigger audience and now feels more comfortable than ever, as she said so herself, which you would know if you actually watched the streams.

>>1540839
>slavery was moral
yes
>the holocaust was moral
it didn't happen, but if it did it would've been morally justified
>North Korea is moral
that and based
>genocide is moral...
genocide is always moral, dilate

>>1541168
t. retard who has undergone an irreversible trepanation via /pol/

>>1539630
>thanks hololive and her genmates, choking up
>community post saying how lucky she is to be surrounded by wonderful people.
>compliments chat for being funny and kind.
is she starting to believe?

>>1535153
>unlikable
yes
>uninteresting
yes
>whore
no
>doesn't deserve all of the positive attention she's been getting
She is good at singing, she deserves some of it.

>>1541487
>/pol/ removed the evil spirits from anon's head
wtf /pol/ was right??

>>1535153
https://files.catbox.moe/62apmj.mp4

>>1535153
Kiara made this thread.

I disagree

>>1535451
No. She's kept her trap shut since late last year.