/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>15312987
Namibia status?

I'll just leave this here
https://github.com/Anarios/return-youtube-dislike/issues/330#issuecomment-995838302

From the creator of the extension himself
>The "algorithm" to calculate actual dislike number is the following: calculate ratio from extension user votes (say, video has 10% dislikes). Aplly this ratio to tatal number of likes.
and
>This is extremely vulnerable to bias from extension users (i.e. data will be wrong if extension user's opinion differs greatly from general opinion).

>>15312987
based ritual posting for my oshi Giraffe-san. I LOVE YOU

Threadly reminder to ignore and hide pekoschizo and councilschizo posts.

>>15312789
>Well, what the hell are you watching then when the tournaments AREN'T happening?!
>Hololive
Cracks me up still. I don't doubt that there is SOME overlap between those that only show up for Niji Tournies and regular Hololive viewers, but I suspect that more than not, these are people who aren't invested in vtubers that much and just fuck off to watch other things like sporting events or other non-chubba shit.

>>15313049
>Namibia status?
Taking over JP cosplay thot world!

>>15313097
fuck you dont tell me what to do. those post are the most entertaining anyway

>>15312789
200k+ viewers that won't turn into long time daily watchers. I'd rather have them get sponsors so that they could pull off ads during intermissions/breaks to earn bazillion buckaroos.

>>15313097
Fuck off retard, I bet you are pekoschizo falseflagging.

>>15313093
>oshi Giraffe-san.

I have always been curious, but what is Selen appeal? Her laugh?

>>15313062
> Get ratio from extension users
> Apply ratio to total number of likes
This is like extrapolating twitter engagement with youtube CCV.

inb4 schizophrenia
Here's to a thread full of great discussion devoid of baiting.

>>15313177
>I'd rather have them get sponsors so that they could pull off ads during intermissions/breaks to earn bazillion buckaroos.
What are the chances of that actually not backfiring and getting people to fuck off? Aren't recurring sponsors with product placement better than 3-minute intermissions pumped chuck full of ads?

I wished a Holo member could pull off an ariane grande/selena gomez and become big after acquiring a steady fanbase. Unfortunately, most holo members aren't that good of a singer, but it can still be trained. Justin Bieber and Selena was shit, Miley even more so. They all became big after their hollywood show gig.

>>15313278
Anyone know how many months it took Lamy to hit 1mil in sc earnings? Will be interesting to compare with Chloe in the future, if this keeps up.

>>15313062
Okay, let's not look at dislikes anymore then. Let's look at CCV instead. Pakora's collab today got 15k less viewers than an arguably less buffed collab she did prior to the offpako incident:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/npOZygz1j-c
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/cVDh8U9MGiw

>>15313177
>200k+ viewers that won't turn into long time daily watchers.
Well it's moreso about the consistency of their crowd drawing ability.
They've been drawing more and more 200k+ crowds since they did it once with Koshien 2020.
People say it all the time in these threads, Niji livers aren't inclining, but Anycolor is definitely inclining.

>I'd rather have them get sponsors so that they could pull off ads during intermissions/breaks to earn bazillion buckaroos.
Don't go giving them ideas kek.
I think Koshien is actually a sponsored event too by Konami.

Do any of you believe that ManjisanjiEN's success to date will have any impact in pushing Cover towards considering a HolostarsEN? Or is it simply too counter to where Cover's priorities are or what their overall culture is to consider it?

>>15313376
>Okay, let's not look at dislikes anymore then
Thanks

Anyone know how many months it took Lamy to hit 1mil in sc earnings? Will be interesting to compare with Chloe in the future, if this keeps up.

>>15313376
>offpako
Not offpeko? Come on, are you even trying?

>>15313307
>Arianna Grande
>Selena Gomez
>Justin Bieber
The deal with them is that they were found and groomed (not in THAT sense) from a very young age to get where they are. Most (all) of the Holos are past the normal time frame for them to train their vocal chords beyond "mediocre" level so that they can hit it big before they have to retire. This is their best shot at living the dream that they got. I'd say this is a big success if anything.

>>15313437
I don't have solid numbers because playboard is awful and don't keep the numbers, but it was probably around 12 to 15 months just based in my memory and how much she generally make.

>>15313307
I think you might be misunderstanding the current situation.
Their equivalent of a "hollywood show gig" is their roommates and past lives.
Being in Hololive is already as big as it gets when it comes to vtubing.
If you're talking about going mainstream facecam, it's never going to happen.

>>15313496
>groomed (not in THAT sense)

>>15313561
who?

>>15313376
Another detail I forgot to mention: Rushia did not have a POV, so it should've buffed Pakora a little. The numbers would've been much worse if not for that.

>>15313561
Anon, just make a thread if you wanna discuss the new Stars. Right now, we know next to nothing about them and honestly, speculating about them is honestly an effort in futility given our history with HoloX.

>>15313602
Anon, I was excluding exactly THAT because I know Hollywood is full of sexual predators.

>>15313393
It is.
>>15313416
Ehhhhh. I think that Holostars EN isn't out of the books given how NijiEN wave 4 is doing, but I don't think it's a priority for Cover. They'd rather work on building up the current stars and whoever is in the new gen in 2022.
>>15313619
New Holostars Gen. Was confirmed on Twitter too.

>>15312987
Selen OP

>>15313376
1. Pekora's numbers were already low in December because of FBK
2. People already watched the Minecraft Disney Tour from shiranui kensetsu
3. Niji marikart competition

>>15313496
>>15313583
I was only hoping if they could be even bigger than where they are now after graduation. Like, if fate were to allow Mori/Suisei to be picked up by a large label company after graduating and suddenly, she's on the same level as Milet, Aimer or that girl from yoasobi in Japan. Ariana already had a great voice in Victorious when I watched her years ago. I don't know how she blew up from being a stupid side character to becoming one of the biggest singers in this generation.

>>15313416
Depends if you think Mystra's CCV is just a fraction of the potential male western vtuber audience, or it is the western male vtuber audience. I think it's somewhere in between, but I don't think we can say "Selen gets 3k and Gura gets 21k so Mysta getting 7k means Holo EN Guy would get 49k."

>>15313437
It took her exactly a year, she hit it on her anniversary

>>15313177
>I'd rather have them get sponsors
Umm... aren't those main channel streams with huge ccv the great way to show sponsors that you're able to get a lot of eyes on their content?

>>15313416
They probably have market analysts that know better than any of us, which means they probably don't think the hololive brand can perform with a male EN branch
Don't get tricked by manjisanjiEN numbers, they are mostly from thirsty niji fujo westaboos or SEA, the kind of audience that wouldn't check hololive, just check holostar numbers

>>15312987

>>15313885
>low in December because of FBK
Anon, Pekora's median in December so far (including today streams) is her third highest this year, trailing only Jan and Nov, and way ahead her magnificent gold laced September and October

>>15313977
Yeah, on the main channel. You have to prove your talents can get good numbers though to get more open ended and lucrative offers.

>>15313062
So dislikes are now a completely dead and useless metric.

>>15314102
The moment they hide them that was true.

>>15314070
Those numbers are boosted by minecraft buff that was gone after the sports festival because of burnout and the new pokemon trend

>>15312987
The Giraffe is a numbers king for Namibia. It doesn't show up often but when it does the numbers skyrocket.

>>15314102
On any new streams, YES.
The only real value that extension has is the archived dislikes of old streams. Helpful to spot old shitter content and/or funny brigading.

>>15313707
> groomed
heh

>(not in THAT sense)
we know how hollywood works dude, all of their top stars have been dicked by the entire industry, that's how they get to the top

>>15313127
>>15313220
> like clockwork

>>15314139
Do they not have lions or elephants? Surely those would beat a fucking giraffe.

>>15313376
keep going, man. these idiots will bite regardless

>>15314279
Elephants don't go that far down south, and even if they do they aren't desert creatures so they wouldn't head down there. Lions do exist in Namibia but mostly in the north

Huh, so I watched 1 (ONE) Nijisanji clip (Aruran+Ange collab) today and now I'm getting flooded with NijiEN clip recommendations.

I think other anons mentioned this as well, so it should be a pretty clear indication that NijiSanji does get pushed by the algorithm to some extent, but for some reason it's not converted to live viewers.
(surprisingly no NijiEN boys, despite them being hot right now).

Laplus Kamippoi na 4m already

>>15314689
>works on my machine
I'm subbed to several Nijisanji JP members and the only rec I have is a Hayama VOD. I got more Canan suggestions than Nijisanji.

>>15314689
Algorithm is weird, I get Vshoujo clips a lot despite not watching Vshoujo or their youtube archives or being subbed to any of them.

>>15314689
are you, by any chance, a girl?

>>15314689
I recently watched 1-2 holo clips and i have a similar situation, only in my case holo started to appear.

>>15314755
Can she maintain her 20k median CCV momentum? There are only a handful of them.

>>15314874
What do you even normally watch?

>>15314818
I think it depends more on who you watch. I get recommended VODs of Pekora for a few days if I watch her live, and Fubuki for the next few days if I watch her live, and so on.

>>15314900
She would need to reinvent herself every stream

>>15314925
>Region
>Who you watch
>WHAT you watch
>How long you watch certain TYPES of content
>Gender
All of these have affects on the recs, but the specifics aren't known. There's also YT's 'randomness' factor that they added to encourage people to see stuff they may not normally see, so that can tweak what each person sees recommended even if they both watch the same content.

>>15314925
Youtube also has a very long memory, for me it'll randomly be like "hey remember when you were watching Scholagladiatoria or Band of Brothers clips 3 years ago? here's some more to see if you're still interested""

>>15314925
I'm not subbed to Noel nor do I watch anything related to Canan and I still get the recs. There is more wizardry than we appreciate.

This isn't dox you slack jawed half wit janny.

>>15314968
she's holding it in most of her Zatsudan streams if there's not much overlap.
I think she'll land around 15k regulars. Maybe more as time goes on.

>>15314855
nope, why do you ask?
> inb4 faggot, nope to that as well

>>15313062
So dislikes look higher than they are because users download the extension to look at the dislikes on something they dislike?

>>15314920
Deron, Mito, Hayato and sometimes jp clippers

>>15315109
because nijiclips have been wildly popular amongst women ever since the niji fuckboys debuted so if the algo think you're a girl it'll be more likely to recommend them to you.

>>15314689
My algo stopped being fucked after adding all the clip channels on "Don't recommend channel" clip channels just tend to fuck up the algo.

>>15314026
>they are mostly from thirsty niji fujo westaboos or SEA, the kind of audience that wouldn't check hololive, just check holostar numbers
But that's exactly WHY Holostars hasn't worked while a Holostars EN potentially could, I would imagine. The majority of the barrier for Holostars today has been a lack of investment and the JP barrier that filters that audience (one that we can now see, at least for now, exists for NijiEN wave 4).

>>15315162
I guess it just associates the indies you watch to Hololive because that audience overlaps somewhat.

>>15315193
>and the JP barrier that filters that audience
That would be a great explanation in an universe where Manjisanji didn't exist

>>15315130
The dislikes seem higher because the retarded pajeet extension programmer did the following leap
>if one in ten people dislike in the extension, apply that ratio to the video
>that means a video with 7k likes and 9 people liking in the extension while 1 person dislikes in the extension, that one dislike will show up for the users of the extension as 700 dislikes

>>15315193
Actually I'd wager that the reason Holostars didn't work is because they didn't have a big event during september - december 2020. HoloID had both pekomoona and their big debuts during the time and that's why their branch has shot to the moon.

>>15315288
>the indies
???

>>15315193
The stars have the best 3d and the best concerts in all of Hololive, lack of investment my ass.

>>15315193
Brand is very important. Why watch holostars when they can just watch manjisanji?

Would a bilingual EN/JP Holostar work out well?

>>15315580
you say this like manjisanji doesn't have mostly 3view shitters

>>15315606
They have a lot of men, of course there would be 3views and King/Kanae//Toya/

>>15315602
Bilingual is not a personality.

>>15315647
King is in Hololive, not Nijisanji.

>>15315682
Until the pokemon permission expires

>>15315602
It depends more on the personality and talents than language skills, just look at Kiara, she has the best language skills in Myth, being literally trilingual, but has always being the least popular girl in the gen.

>>15315706
There won't be any king by then.

While we are talking about Fubuking, what are her Ghastly numbers so far? You guys think it will, number wise, be Magikarp 2.0?

>>15315850
Currently averaging 30k viewers

With only 8 more hours to go, looks like Gura will have about 400k views in 24 hours. Numberrot from King and Reflect requires me to remind myself of how many debuffs this thing is running under, but how good is 400k in a day usually for a song? By holo standards.

>>15315999
First of all do you try to compare her first original and super popular King to some gacha game song?

>>15313256
Yes

>>15315999
>Gura will have about 400k views in 24 hours.
Jesus that's awful.

>>15316081

>>15315999
It puts it in "Very good" territory, and easily beats many other holomem's cover speeds. Don't let the numberrot get to you, getting 1 mil in a week is really good, especially for a cover song who's original on YT has less than 200k views. There is no 'popular cover' buff going on here.

>>15315999
There goes her beautiful 10m+ music median.

>>15316114
There is now.
For the original lmao

>>15315999
400k in a day is extremely good. Will most likely easily hit 1 million in under a week which is, again, extremely good.

>>15316098
It's awful by Gura standards.

>>15315999
I hope Blue Archive is happy with what they paid for. Like how much money are they giving Cover?

>>15316175

>>15316197
You know I'm right.

>>15316175
No it's fucking not, seriously look at all these debuffs:
-shill song (literally paid to shill a gacha)
-stealth release
-cover but the thing it's covering is not popular at all and was surpassed by Gura's version in 10 hours

You have numberrot to compare this to a long awaited original or fucking King (with Mori, another music numbers beast).

>>15316231
I can do this all day until the retard gets slapped out of you

>>15315999
>>15315999
>how good is 400k in a day usually for a song?
It beats many of the covers that many holos release even WITH hype, announcements AND it being a passion project. This is literally a shill cover and probably more than paid for itself in Gura's time spend making it.

>>15316193
>Like how much money are they giving Cover?
Almost certainly more than a 100k dollars floor, possible up to 2~300k I would say.

>>15316244
If anon thinks adding Gura (or a popular holo to a song) automatically gets it numbers...don't look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKEb-Ox1KEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5IIoZsci8Y&t=81s

>>15316193
Lets just say that if it was in physical bills it'd fill up most of a dumpster truck and leave it at that.

>>15316193
>Like how much money are they giving Cover?
Just for Gura? Probably 100k+
But then they also paid Kronii, Kiara and several other council whos

>>15316247
I'm not the one defending 400k in 24h for Gura, her last two songs did 1m in half that time.

Did gura even announce she will be releasing a song? Maybe a member post?

>>15316358
Guess today we get to find out how many slaps it takes to slap the retard out of someone

>>15316376
No. Hell she(read:her manager) tweeted about it 40 minutes after the premiere.

>>15316332
Oh hey, that mess of a song is almost at 1M!
I still wonder what drugs was Camellia taking while making it.

>>15316332
Main channel and Kiara channel are huge music debuffs. This is on Gura channel.

>>15316376
Literally 0 announcements of any sort.

>>15316420
>>15316474
Why is she purposefully debuffing herself like this?

>>15316494
Because she is retarded. She was also planning on doing an announcement in one of the streams that got cancelled because of her family surprising her.

>>15316494
Numberfagging for Gura is a lot like numberfagging for Fubuki: you just accept she's never giving it her all to get those numbers and work with what you've got. Maybe she was trying to show the gacha sponsor how much she can get with just a fraction of her power and that they should've paid more if they wanted hype.

>>15316358
Anon, You're literally making an argument that no one made. If your retarded ass had bothered to read the question being asked, you would know that >>15315999 wants a frame of reference for holo's music performance. Gura is in a league of her own when it comes to VOD stuff she does when she gets them done the right way (and even that condition is rarely fulfilled).

>>15316494
It was scheduled to be after her unarchived karaoke, but since she family dropped in as a surprise, that got cancelled. So the stream that was SUPPOSED to announce the cover was nowhere to be found and Gura, scatterbrained as she is, forgot to schedule a fucking tweet for it before the cover dropped.

>>15315732
Kiara has the worst voice ever. Voice debuff is the one thing you can't overcome. IRyS was el atrocidad but is now well liked. Rhombus and Yabs did not slow chumbots growth.
Also, multilingual is a debuff. See lofi and Anya. Compare to Moona who speaks 0 languages.

>>15316575
>If your retarded ass had bothered to read the question being asked,
You're either blind or retarded. I called the numbers bad, I don't give a shit about the question he made.

>>15316623
>Also, multilingual is a debuff. See lofi and Anya. Compare to Moona who speaks 0 languages.
Not true. It just so happens that a large portion of of the multilinguals are either stuckup bitches or just plain boring... and I do mean people in general.

>>15316623
>multilingual is a debuff
Again, it depend on the girl, Coco made it work. Bae also surpassed Fauna in part because of her language skills.

>>15316623
>multilingual is a debuff
Too broad a statement. Multilingual was a massive buff for Coco that dragged the entirety of Hololive after her in fame and popularity, but Coco knew how to use it: hook the JOPs and give them the most attention, give EOPs scraps, and use her knowledge of English to bring foreign topics to JOPs (like reddit meme review, which was always formatted as "haha look at the bad EOP memes and laugh, JOPs").
Has Kiara done any of that? No. She might as well throw the buff down the well, because she thinks its only useful for her bad holotalk show and collabs.

>>15316623
And yet despite all the "voice" complaints Kiara's music does incomparably better than anything Irys has ever released.

>>15316758
Irys is a very boring streamer. Even her good CCV comes from absorbing an entire generation's worth of hype into one holo since she was the first new EN. This is just my opinion, but I think Irys being such a milquetoast nothing compared to Myth heavily damaged Council hype since it was a herald of things to come.

>>15316832
I like Irys, but her debuting so close to Council definitely took away some of the hype. They really should have been a 6 members gen.

What was the reason for Miko’s weak numbers? Less than half of what she got the first time. Fubuki sucking up all the viewers? I wish the tournament would happen already so she can go back to spamming phantasmophobia for 7k viewers.

>>15316832
Council was doomed to fail with all the retardation behind it. La nephilim de atrocidad certainly did not help matters

https://youtu.be/86UdOrzFXxQ
1M soon

>>15315175
none of boys were recommended so I guess I'm not the audience.

>>15316832
I have to disagree strongly. I think Irys is a very good streamer, her music just fucking sucks. She has by far the worst collection of songs in HoloEN, and her covers are boring too.

>>15316921
So weird how many random Gura vods reached 1 million but an event one struggled.

reminder that numberfagging vtubers is like poorfags fighting amongst eachother measuring who has more scraps, you are not even in the same universe compared to the actual big fish.

>>15315450
I don't think that anon knows Niji nicknames kek

>>15316832
>but I think Irys being such a milquetoast nothing compared to Myth heavily damaged Council hype since it was a herald of things to come
And Council cashed in on that by being even worse than her. Whatever fault IRyS may have is nothing compared to "literally putting my debut buff to waste" Sana and Kronii. When the most competent of the bunch is a mediocre ASMRtist that seems to have a work ethic beyond just getting dicked by her BF and claim a check just phoning it in, you know you have a bad case of western mindset in your unit.

At least IRyS stuck to her guns AND streamed... which isn't even her primary dity in the first place.

>>15316921
https://youtu.be/vci-RuRSios
This one is close too and growing relatively fast, i guess the algo noticed a lot of hololive and jump king interest lately and started suggesting Gura's stream too, which is pretty funy considering it's an awful jump king stream in terms of gameplay, but godly for the prank call that inspired one of the best holo fan animations.

>>15316984
Isn't his brother some furry vtuber with a webcomic?

>>15316984
Are you trying to tell us real streamers are more popular than vtubers? Meds

>>15315999
anon there are certain holo covers and even holo originals that haven't got that number, in MONTHS

>>15316332
>900k to 2 million
These are dream numbers for a gacha game if Gura gets just 1 million, the Mori Pricone song is stuck at 500k and the Cookie Run kingdom made by AmaLee is at 700k with main game channel buff but 100k on her channel

>>15317058
It doesn't seem to be getting any relevant views from recent stuff. It got a huge boost of like 100k+ when the Lightning Mcqueen 2snacks thing was popular, since it linked directly to it.

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1475205922985111553
jesas

>>15317357
What an absolutely terrible end of the year for HoloEN numbers.

>>15315999
Another thing people might be forgetting is that specifically being a shill gacha song is a turbo debuff, even if it's a solo cover released on her own channel. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNU2BDdgPZ8

>>15317581
It's fine, nothing will ever match EOD 2020 when Susan thanosed half their views permanently

>>15317601
Wait Ibasho was on Mori's channel? Shit I always thought it wasn't and just in the playlist she made.

>>15316623
>Moona who speaks 0 languages
Kek

>>15316193
I don't know if anyone will believe this unsourced but a gacha game download conversion is worth $100+ lifetime average revenue. That is to say if a streamer converted 100 viewers to download the game, those 100 would spend about $10k+ over the game's lifetime. And that includes everyone who drops the game immediately and all the f2ps, the tiny number of whales are that strong.
So getting Hololive English to shill a game to their extremely engaged, exactly on-niche fanbase, is probably worth literal tens of millions in revenue to Blue Archive just in conversions, and uncounted more in raising the game's exposure, and you can expect the payout to Cover to be proportional. A full EN sponsorship including at least one song probably cost them multiple millions.
To reference something that can be googled, Asmongold was offered more than 300k for a single stream mobile game sponsorship. That's the ballpark amounts we're talking here.

>>15317357
time to invest in niji coin, buying the dip
>council whores taking a break without reason, specially Sana
>myth whores lying and doing content for ecelebs on camera (not even vshoujo whores)
also, some of the JP's are falling off
>Pakora
>La+ roomate
>Lui/Koyori/Chloe and Samurai stuck on the 10k barrier with nothing interesting to look forward
>Marine nose diving in numbers
>Haachama can't bring 10k on a "face reveal" stream
Pretty sure FBK is the only one with solo content that is able to compete against the top solo nijis

>>15318110
>Anon, even Kuzuha has struggled to hit 10k this month. December is just a weak month for viewership. It was last year and it is this year. The HoloX debut and Fubuki's pokemon sensation were masking that a little bit but it still held true for most everybody else.

Can someone post the hours watched chart?

>>15318110
also Ame
>not hitting 10k on a long awaited TF2 stream
>barely getting 10k on a karaoke
Mori
>out of gimmicks (still doing pokemon stuff but is not sticking out)
>going back to the 5~7k median
Kiara
>losing to manjisanjiEN with a 3D VR Karaoke
>her biggest stream was the drawing stream with Ina
Ina
>she's doing great

>>15318110
>FBK is the only one with solo content that is able to compete against the top solo nijis,
Anon not even niji's most disillusioned fan believes this shit.
>>15318282
I agree with everything except Ina, she can't even break 10k in his last five streams .

>>15316906
>Council was doomed to fail with all the retardation behind it.
I disagree, they had a worst situation than Myth, but if the girls had been creative and put the work they would have succeeded regardless of everything else.

>>15317052
>When the most competent of the bunch is a mediocre ASMRtist
In what world is Fauna the most competent? It has been 4 months and she still manage to completely fuck a stream almost every week.

>>15318031
I can see why they pushed council to get some of these sponsorships so they could actually get paid. I mean from SCs Bae's take home is only $27k so she needs the money.

>>15317357
A reminder.

Hololive? More like zerolive

>>15318558

>>15318558
Fauna and Mumei still have only one sponsorship between the two of them and both have the lowest SCs. Council fucking hates money, there is no other explanation.

>>15318282
Kronii & Irys
>doing great, honestly, just stream more consistently
>both around their medians
Mumei
>losing momentum,
>her unarchived karaoke and the rebroadcast did ok but they got shit numbers compared to her impromptu karaokes at 2 AM
>needs solo content, she has nothing going
Bae
>extremely fluctuating data
>going from 2k to 20k on public streams
Fauna
>meh, not good, not bad
>wont have great content until she's completely back
Sana
>graduation onegai

I don't get numberfags who shit on Irys. She had to work her way back from a gigantic debuff that is her design, and she's doing better than most of the council and much better than Azki. Her music is also slowly catching on, her karaoke is getting 15k peaks on average. And that's with the fact that she can't really upload English covers.
If anything, Irys just shows that English vsingers are not really viable due to retarded copyright issues. She should've debuted under Japanes branch and focused on Japanese music and collabing with JP singers, while still mostly streaming in English, probably would've been much more successful, and could've filled the role of JP-EN ambassador that is highly needed.

>>15318658
Irys is doing well CCV wise, but her subs growth is abysmal, she (25k) is only very slightly above Sana (23k).

>>15318282
>she's doing great
"Great"

>>15318444
>cherry picking 5 streams for ina
coincidentally, the 6th one got 10k, this makes 3 with over 10k in her last 10 streams, excluding costume reveal, she rightfully has 2

>>15313307
What are the chances of Gura landing a Disney CV gig?

>>15318790
yes, this is relative to their median, she has been extremely consistent and it shows, everyone else lost in that aspect

https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1475211135637159937

mori at amanekanatach live? have they even interacted before?

>>15318110
>FBK is the only one with solo content that is able to compete against the top solo nijis

>>15316730
Yeah Bae slowly pulling away from Fauna when they were pretty much tied in subs for a long time. I guess thats the difference when you have utilize the full Hololive branch for stream content. Fauna is still one of the best solo gaming streamers in EN so the 2 girls complement each other in terms of content.

>>15318452
They were not allowed to. Where were the fuckin permissions? Guardian of civilization can't into theme or talk about civilization. Where are the history topic clearance at? What the fuck were they doing pre-debut? Or how about Fauna? Why is her voice high pitched like a kid (with that body)? Or with Sana? Don't they already know about the nig debuff?

>>15318793
Bro I love Ina but you have to be more demanding with the one who used to be the top 2 in myth at CCV (Mori has a better CCV this month i think but i am not sure).

>>15318924
No, but kanata gushed about her on a member's stream

>>15319031
>or talk about civilization. Where are the history topic clearance at?
kek, if you think westerners are crazy about what you can or cannot talk with regards to LITERALLY ESTABLISHED AND DOCUMENTED history you have to see how fucking rabid asians are.

Thank God they’re smart and put the lid on that. Having a dumb broad “teaching” that stuff is a recipe for lulz

>niji won jp gold
>vshojo won en gold
its over for holokeks

>Holo”live”
>nobody is live
YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN THAT!

>>15319354
>en gold
Is this the “special olympics” of this thread?

I understand trying to make underachievers feel special but I surely hope you guys don’t do that

>>15319363
They are preparing for a confident victory today, Kanata 3D Live will rise above everything and no one will be able to compete.

>>15319419

Idk when it started to spread in this thread but yeah it's really stupid. Might as well start doing ID gold or KR gold and premiering streams with 1k or 500 viewers peak if we are reaching this level

>>15319613
some retard suggested it as a joke and other retards used it as a shitpost
I hope this reminds all of you that ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>15318955
>when they were pretty much tied in subs for a long time.

Fauna had 15k subs over Bae at one point actually, now she is 7k below. It makes me happy that Bae hard work and not being a total retard like Fauna is paying off.

>>15319354
And nijifags claim this is a hololive hugbox.
Niji wins
>non-stop shitting on holos, forgets all the mogging they experienced before
Niji Loses
>non-stop shitting on holos by shamelessly starting HolovsHolo.

>>15319664
>>15319613
EN Gold is only relevant if a non-holo wins for them. Such shameful act of antis and nijifags.

>>15319497
>Kanata 3D Live will rise above everything and no one will be able to compete.
*BLOCKS YOUR GOLD*

>nothing personel, tenshi
The king strikes back with a vengeance, will get gold for today so guaranteed you can put it down already
>26) Kuzuha - 50k+ - new 3D

Not even fucking Mel as a guest can save Kanata from the King. That’s a guarantee!

>>15318755
Probably due to her not streaming because recording/throat infection this month. Her normal monthly average is around 35-37k subs gained.

>>15319818
>Kanata 3d
~80-90k
>Kuzuha
~50-60k

>>15319818
KNEELBROS ASSEMBLE!
>King I kneel preemptively to your sure victory today!

>>15319818
This does not slip?

Kuzuha should win but he has been declining this month. Kanata however had Mori as guest buff.
>Gonna be a good fight

>>15319860
>>15319893
>>15319818
Holy SHit, they're gonna clash head-to-head.
Both are gonna start at 9:00JST

>>15319906
Kuzuha doused himself with seven (7) layers of anti slip coating! He also chained his tyres and put those anti slip mats all across his bath so he wouldn’t slip even during his bath!

>>15319831
True, but 35-37k isn't exactly amazing either. I really hope she inclines on that area, I really don't Chloe to surpass her.

>>15319973
Silverboy vs Gorilla, may the best one win.

HoloEN highest vs NijiEN highest

>>15320074
I think is the First time if we exclude debut?

>>15315076
Do you watch ASMR of any kind?

>>15318654
>Bae
It's incredibly hard to catch all her streams live in NA since she is also making an effort to target the JP/KR crowd. Rat's incline in SC numbers is at least a proof that her approach is working out in the long run. Koreans making it rain every time she streams in their hours

nijiEN streaming today
>mysta in 15 mins
>enna in 3 hrs
>rosemi in 5 hrs

>>15320074
Why is Ina so lazy? Same streams, same thumbnails, same talking points through the whole year. Wasn't she supposed to be FFXIV autist? Why is she not playing? Why is she not doing drawing collabs? Could've easily inclined, instead we get this.

Numberfags, what's the highest CCV a chuuba's ever gotten for a normal gaming stream?

>>15320191
P-Pomu… ;-(

>>15320191
HoloEN
>IRyS in 5 hrs
Mori in 5 hrs

>>15320074
only contender to this probably wouldve been Faunas karaoke but she ran into scuff that killed it

>>15320235
>for a normal gaming stream
I would say Kuzuha 144k with JPop lad

>>15320198
>Why is she not doing drawing colabs?
Sorry but she only does drawing colabs with her wife Kiara now.

>>15320247
Mori isnt even streaming, it's just a rebroadcast

>>15320307
HoloEN isn't even trying Today eh.

>>15320175
>she is also making an effort to target the JP/KR crowd.
It's also a convenient timezone for her, given where she lives.

>>15320395
is holoen getting their own dodgeball incident? barely streaming and shit. hololive overtook them because of it. nijien bros its our time!

>>15320453

>>15319818
50k? that's low as fuck, did he decline that hard?

Fubuki is going to crash and burn once Pokémon permissions are gone. She’ll have 2 mil subs and languish at 6k viewers. The days where she overshadows a Miko will be no more. She’ll be relegated to collabing with Oga again to maintain some semblance of relevancy. I can not wait.

>>15319818
inb4 kanae, fuwa, hayato, ibrahim guest

>>15320499
3D events excluding the debuts aren´t that big in niji .

>>15320235
For Holo, probably Pekora getting 70k on FF10 ending. If we're talking a completely regular stream that is not a collab or event. Not sure about Nijisanji side.

>>15320663
Miko got 94k when she finished her first play through of GTA5

december median
>Toya 34,469
>Ayame 33,838
>Fubuki 33,622
>Pekora 32,619
>Marine 24,527

>>15320709
????

>>15316946
I really want to punch whoever her producer is cause god fucking dammit they dont know shit about what they do. If they want to release EN song find some decent EN song writter goddamit! Or just collab with a voca-p that style fits IRyS vocal and change the lyrics into a fitting EN yoasobi style

>>15320709
Idiot, the highest solo game streams are Kuzuha (baseball game during koshien month) and Pekora (pokemon elite4 fight this nov)
they're both around the 70k.

>>15321053
Pekora's elite 4 is 76k. I have no idea how to find Kuzuha's numbers

>>15318755
Anon.. she is the most subbed Vsinger in the world...

>>15319354

>>15321053
Kuzuha's shouldn't even count because of the dumb Niji baseball tourist viewers. Pekora got her number through sheer determination and a dedicated fanbase.

>>15321312
Aqua, Suisei, Watame, Sora, Mito
Also, pic related

>>15321366
>Im a nijinigger and im falseflagging as nousagi

>>15321526
Im counting Chuuba that labeled as Vsinger right from the get go, not chuuba who sings. Also Ado is an utaite

"VSinger" is a made up category. There's no difference between a vsinger who also streams and a vtuber who also sings. Is Suisei a vsinger? Is Calliope? Watame?

>>15320567
>rivers
I like this.
Can we use it instead of calling them livers?

>>15321312
The Vsinger label is almost meaningless, the only difference between her and a music focused chuuba like Mori and Suisex is the contract.

>>15320567

it has guests? yeah then kanata has no chance. solo 3d would be neck to neck but if he brings the boys its over

OH BOY! Am I waiting to dunk on you all with today’s guaranteed King’s gold
>Silverboy
I’LL SHOW YOU SILVERBOY!

You’ll all KNEEL towards the king today!

>>15321582
Isn't there like only 2 people who are officially labeled as VSingers from the start? Who else is there besides Azki? Kafu and RIM?

>>15321605
Irys streams more than Suisei and puts out less music than her, yet only one calls herself a vsinger

>>15321905
>>15319818
>>15319893
Is this holofags falseflagging so that they can laugh when kanata mogs him, or this is what nijifags actually think?

>>15321875
its pretty much a 3d re-debut like nene. special event so no overlapping

>>15320036
Well then, how about you name another vsinger who has higher subs than her and then we can compare.

>>15321905
>Know your place BOI

>>15322166

It's been a while since the last big Holo vs Niji simultaneous 3D showdown, this is going to be a fun day no matter what the result

>>15320453
The main """Issue""" with the dodgeball incident was how a bunch of nijis did an offcolab without streaming it, leading to people making rrats about how it was a offpako event.

if Irys counts as a vsinger then so does Suisei

>>15322490
>making rrats about how it was a offpako event.
Wasn't that exactly what it was though?

>>15320069
It's silverboy vs Silverback gorilla

>>15322058
Nijifags ofc, holobro won't do something like this

>>15322504
Only a retard would care about who or not counts as a Vsinger, it's a meaningless term.

Reimu tactics

>>15322778
>Me gusta
Hey Reimu, what is your opinion of the boys?

Kiara the only HoloEN who streamed in the past 8 hours, jesus christ (I'm not counting the rebroadcast).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyWdNdCTyeU 108k views, shilled by Gura herself on stream, way better looking and Christmas topical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyWdNdCTyeU 196k views, but references a hololive meme

Both Amesame shorts. Guess this just goes to show that the appetite is for animated stream moments less than for animations featuring the holocharacters . This is also why there's a lot of JP "animation" channels that get 500k+ views per video just for putting holos in a barely animated stills adapting stream moments.
EN animators have talent for days, they need to catch up to this meta.

>>15322299
What's most hilarious about Mel mogging him that one time? That she's basically a 2view by Hololive standards, or that they're both vampires?

>>15322778
sad leech

>>15323155
Did you make a mistake? You posted the same link twice.

Numberfags, redpill me on kson. Did she fucked up by going indie, or was it the right choice? How's her numbers doing compared to before? Does she have any growth potential?

>>15323244
Yeah, I'm dumb.
This is the low view one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNAZlOfpK8g

>>15323334
>Did she fucked up by going indie
She's her own boss now, she always chafed under Hololive, and frankly had too many bouts of crying on stream feeling guilty the other holos were getting shit for collabing with her. So yeah, it was the right choice.
>How's her numbers doing compared to before
Slightly lower but desu Coco always had some real fucking shit CCV. Like 3-4k averages. She kept her core gachi and became the biggest indie.
>Does she have any growth potential?
Feels like the era of indies is at an end, their growth potential is massively fucked by the Holo/Niji behemoths, both of which are Kson can't collab with so she's stuck scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Overall, Coco's biggest strength was bringing out the fun in her collab partners. I don't care for any of the japanese 2views she collabs with, and neither does her fanbase. It's no wonder her most popular collab partner nowadays is Pikamee, she's actually known.

>>15323341
Wow, thanks for posting this anon, it looks amazing. Fuck the 'Happy Holidays' at the end though.

>>15323334
As long as she manages to keep her rich gachis, she's fine.
I don't really see much potential for growth since she can't collab with Hololive/Nijisanji and I doubt other agencies want to risk collabing with her.
I've been noticing that her viewership has been going down, even for her weekly meme review which used to get ~13-15k, the last non-guest one got around 5-6k iirc.

Sheesh

>>15323441
>Coco always had some real fucking shit CCV. Like 3-4k average
I'm pretty sure she was around 10k median peak in the yearly chart, her CCV definitely went down by a lot. SCs also went down but not by much before this month.

>>15322778
When will people learn that trying to leech of Gura doesn't go anywhere just pick an easier target like Mori or Ollie even Kiara.

>>15324055
>10k median
Worthless stat inflated by meme review (and Asacoco before it), though. Cut meme review and her numbers averaged low as fuck.

>>15324061
Mori and Kiara are absolutely the easiest to leech from. Mori will respond every time, and if you kiss Kiara's ass she'll love you. It's kinda pathetic how easily Nyanners got in her good graces with that.

>>15314689
what are the odds that those niji clips have hololive tags?

>>15324109
To be fair, meme review wasn't a one time fluke. It was a consistent 40k stream every week. There's something to be said for that.

>>15324109
Ignoring her most popular content is dumb, but even if you did that it would still be significantly higher than what she has now.

>>15322386
last time was fuwa vs robocco

>>15324151
Iirc the only reason was cause Nyanners recommended Kiara to Kizuna Ai during their concert.
She seems to only be interested in Pomu for the longest time.
Mori is the go to because she is a saviorfag for 2views and wants to collab with e-celebs.
Ollie is the village bicycle.

>>15323981
sea is sleeping pls understand

>>15324409
SC reading debuff

>>15323441
>Holo/Niji behemoth
>Niji
>Behemoth
Got a mighty kek out of me

Mysta is waaaaay less popular in EN hours compared to SEA hours

>>15324599
ok retard

>>15325175
They all are. NijiEN may as well be NijiSEA. No womder their fanbase is pure cancer.

>>15325175
no surpirse anon, their fanbase is full of trannies after all

>>15325289
You know that at least 40% of their fanbase are main holo right

>>15325289
Only luxiem. The girls gets shit views on those timeslots

>>15324599

Does anyone keep track of the % of chat that is members vs grey names? Is that even possible? I’m just curious to see what that looks like.

>>15321979

>>15325338
for the girls sure but for the boys I dont think so

>>15323611
>>15323441
Ok, thanks for the info, anons

>>15325289
This is an actual problem for niji, if not the talents. Myth were successful but they captured a lot of the actual NA audience who enjoyed anime but didn’t know shit about vtubers, which in turn turbocharged the algorithm. I don’t think even a moderately successful Wave 4 does that. It’s fine for the talents gachis are gachis but I’d be surprised if it affects Niji as a brand. Guess time will tell

>>15325587
I'm mostly curious how long the SEA/JOP fangirls will stick with the guys.
They're still in the honeymoon phase right now. I think Mysta will end up being the real winner of the wave.

Never thought I'd see Haachama streaming in English on the EN server at 7 PM EST getting Kiara Tales of Part 8 numbers. People really are over her aren't they?

>>15321312
no, that would be mafumafu

I'm thrilled that there has been a grand total of zero NijiEN girl fans shitting these threads up since they became second class citizens. It's impressive how clear the source was.

>>15325465
having sex again huh suzy

>>15325974
They got outnumbered by all the fags coming out of the closet when wave 4 debut in their own threads.

>>15325801
There are just more options now. They'll most likely watch a VShojo instead

So minecraft is debuff now

>>15325801
Don't call it a grave, it's the future she chose.

It's kinda sad to see the death of EOPs fawning over JP vtubers. Pre-Myth times had a certain magic that will never happen again.

IOFI GONNA OVERLAP KANATA 3D LIVE
ITS OVER HOLOBROS, KUZUHA TAKING THE GOLD

Today's superchats

>>15326327
Who?

Has the face yabai really affected Haachama's performance?
Does the fantasy of picturing someone attractive behind the avatar also takes part on attracting viewers?
What a normalfag mentality if it is true

>>15326429
Big day, Lamy at 12th and Khe Sanh completely off the board.

>>15326429
>Sasaki
?
>Nagao
?
>Naruse
!!!???

>>15326521
I think those are Nijisanjis

>>15326558
Yeah but they ain't nijis I'd expect to be on and SC list.

>>15326429
With this Chloe should be at 50k just for this week

>>15326597
Birthday, 3D, gimmick challenge, playing gacha, pick one.

>>15326310
Tbf her chat is still 90% english atm. Of course it will never be like pre-HoloEN, but I'm pretty sure HoloJP's EOP following is still quite sizeable.

>>15326521
Mario Kart tourney, I didn't watch it but Sasaki won and Naruse came close I believe, guessing Nagao is the same

>>15326429
And the runners up, this really is the season of giving isn't it...

>>15326481
Nah. She's just lacking some good collabs. She needs something to rejuvenate her streams, like a unexpected Collab partner. She needs some sort of refresher.

>>15326481
No, what affected Haachama's performance is inconsistency. Haachama basically diluted her brand to the point it might not even exist. And it will probably not change until she finishes her studies and goes streaming full time.

>>15326481
No one really cared and no one was surprised.
Her inconsistency is what's killing her.

>>15326716
Also this is the first real english stream in like what? 6 months?

>>15326984
I also just noticed she has 8.6k likes with less than 4k CCV. I've noticed similar ratios for less popular Holomems like Mel or Aki, but I'm not sure how normal it is for Haachama. Are we sure she isn't getting Susan'd extra hard?

>>15322778
didn't i tell you she's a chumbud
was one in PL, still one now
look for the colombian peso SC

>>15326984
Pandering to eop is a bad move, they are unloyal shithead. Do collab with your senpais and kouhai helps and stop being a sololive like matsuri.

>>15323046
is holidays anon

>>15327275
it could be but who knows.

>>15327415
Lamy is beating her right now and she play minecraft..... alone......

>>15327275
>Are we sure she isn't getting Susan'd extra hard?
maybe. looks like there's some extra view culling going on.

>>15327531
>>15327510
>hachama has double the likes of wamy
interesting

>>15327531
People are tabing in and out??
>>15327636
Eop love giving likes and get out.

>>15326283
There are no objective other than building in the server anymore.
Unless they upgrade the server into 1.18,
and people can see rare survival in the server.

I can see Shiraken bringing good number constantly (Miko 20k, Flare Suisei 10k, Polka 6k)
since they are the main characters in the server now.
Stories rotate around them.
Flare plays good Minecraft and Miko is the best on collab in Hololive.
Bunkronii-related collab streams will come in second.

Else will decline if they think map art, building, fishing are still good ideas.
People don't come for Minecraft content,
they come to see cute girls do cute things.
That's why speedrun Fauna has less CCV than Mumei who throw berries.

Honestly I would like Fauna to flex or improve her skill inside the server.
Doing a cave adventure will already be good.
Kiara and Ina have the formula but they barely collab with people in Minecraft.
Gura pulls a 13k on Minecraft last time because Gura never commits and viewers were already sick of it.

>>15327415
>Pandering to eop is a bad move
naah. you just need to do content that eops want to watch. coco meme review is a solid proof of that, at least 40k ccv every week like a clock. also, subaru inclined wen she started pandering to eops with her morning stream and those numbers have kept up.
it's korone's fault that she never played eternal. it's haachama's fault that she just went full schizo and took a long break.
>Do collab with your senpais and kouhai helps and stop being a sololive like matsuri
this, but it's probably a nightmare for her to line up schedules with people at this point. i'd say, start with doing less guerilla and just streaming more consistently.

>>15327820
>Gura pulls a 13k on Minecraft last time because Gura never commits
that was a guerrilla stream on a shitty timeslot anon.

>>15326764
Nagao came close. I think people just supacha Naruse because marika like his thing.

>>15327820
Building is fine, Pekodam and Shubangelion was kino and brought numbers, so are map art streams. People just need to commit to actually finishing a big project. The problem with EN side of things is that literally nobody there likes Minecraft outside of Kronii, and they all somehow convinced Kronii that she plays it too much, which made her stop playing, which was completely retarded. Fauna is only interested in speedruns, she doesn't really care about actually playing on a server.
On the JP side things will probably get revitalized once HoloX starts playing and building their house.
Side not: I personally wouldn't mind a complete server reset. Not sure what it will do for numbers, but it would be great to see them explore the server and build all the farm again. Also, could eliminate retarded divide between EN, ID and JP, that doesn't serve any purpose except making Minecraft worse.

haachama has unironically become similar to gura but in jp
low ccv compared to her subs, but very healthy and high views as well as likes, and her performance in the relay stream showed that very much

>>15327904
She will barely break 20k on godly timeslot.
Most Minecraft kid don't have patient and Gura will trigger their OCD.
I am not saying it as I would like her to please Minecraft-only audience.
But if the topics is numbers and they want to success through numbers,
then Gura is definitely doing it wrong.

If Gura is doing it to annoy Minecraft kids, I would say she is based.
But it is not good for her career.

>>15327820
Well either that or they can go REALLY big. Most of Pekora idea in Minecraft are big events: Summer Fes, Wither Raid, Pesuke, etc
UsaKen is the Nijisanji of Holo Minecraft, only show up once in a while to do a big event then dipped

>>15328491
>She will barely break 20k on godly timeslot.
the last time she did a MC stream was a late one with sana and Ame and got 20k without issue
She hasn streamed MC on her usual slot recently. And people that watch gura never did it for her buildings but the zatsu.

>>15328534
One problem of Usaken is that it is all about Pekora and less about other members. Pekora has to come up with something by herself all the time.

>>15328491
Anon we have dozens of Gura streams proving you wrong, this schizo post is hilarious

>>15327820
Flare said there will be a new main world to build, but they are having trouble updating to 1.18. They still have to merge ID server too

>>15328534
>Most of Pekora idea in Minecraft are big events: Summer Fes, Wither Raid, Pesuke, etc
Summer Fes sucks and it was only carried by the number of participants and Micomet's haunted house.
All of Pekora's products in 2021 brings numbers to people
just because Nousagi only turn in others' stream when their oshi's products were noticed.
It is not Pekora playing the game any better.
It is simply just the Pekora effect.

When Gura went to JP server, she asked the chat many times the location of Pekoland and ignore many good builds around her. When Kronii and Mumei went to JP server together, they did as well.
It felt forced for numbers and not kino.

>>15328360
>low ccvs
no one should care about ccvs especially for en, youtube has been proven to cut views from them extra hard, same thing is happening to haachama right now when she actually has more than double her current ccv

wtf was that drop susan?

>>15329393
The views cut happen way long time ago.
Most has dropped ccv on new outfit by at least 30%, so as normal streams.
EN has declined, accept the fact.

>>15329393
EN has been getting less and less sponsorships and traction recently. They're a decaying limb and candidates for chopping.

>>15329063
Well we are talking about number here, not whether it's good or not. That is subjective
>>15328853
It does feel like that sometime, I mean aren't most current UsaKen employee came to Pekora by themselves and not because of Pekora going out of her way to recruit people? So it feel more like Pekora and her followers

>>15329597
>EN has declined, accept the fact.
This. HoloEN has treaded down pretty hard overall. It will probably converge on a number but the fall is still happening. At this point I'm waiting for some people to start saying there is a new cull that only affects HoloEN.

CALLI GOLD
>CALLI GOLD
CALLI GOLD
>CALLI GOLD

>>15328853
Man I miss when we have more than just ShiraKen to watch. I am still living in the past here watching UsaKen Summer Fes clips

>>15322086
Anon, Niji always overlaps with their own special events, just like what happened with the other 3ds, lulu graduation, etc. Kuzuha has overlapped his kouhais 3d debut. They are not overlapping this albino tranny because not only management will heavily punish them, kuzuha fans will mob them, too.

>>15329615
retard

>>15329615
>EN has been getting less and less sponsorships and traction recently.
in the last 2 months they got blue archive, smtv, eternal run, omocat collab,hatsune miku. that shitty ass mobile rpg that looks like chrono trigger, mobile rocket league.
seems good imo.
The only problem with en right now is the constant breaks and sick elavrs that disrupt the flow of streams.
First months after council it was starting from 00jst. Novemeber was really shit luck all around and decemebr is holidays, wihtout mention all the extra work they need to do offstream.

>>15329982
>wihtout mention all the extra work they need to do offstream.
Preparing for a 3D debut that never happened?

>>15323502
What? Why?

>>15329657
>Well we are talking about number here, not whether it's good or not. That is subjective
You're right anon. I forgot about it

Nice, Miko finally landed permissions for a forza horizon 5 stream

>>15330327

sponsored

>>15330238
Probably a "war on Christmas" shitter

>>15330327
Game pass shilling

>>15330171
songs, 3d vr, collabs,recordings,etc
So october there was this nice balance of box pushing
kiara then ina, then fauna/bae then sana/gura then kronii/mumei/ame then calli/irys then bae or sana finishing on JP prime time.
However there were a lot of shit going around the alst 2 months. Ame got evicted, sanas dog, gura family issues the sicknes, kroni had a funeral, bae had a break for mentla reasons and now we have holdays were gura, fauna, mumei are almost out of comission ebcasue family.
Even with their days off there was someone to get into that slot on cotober but the last 2 months have put a lot of people out of comission or forced to stream at the same timeslots hurting the box pushing they had.
>>15330327
it is a sponsor

>>15330373
>>15330392
>>15330460
Oh no... Well, even if it's sponsored, It's still gonna be a good stream and a waiting room for Kanata. Only thing I'm hoping is that the perms stays for other members to play.

>>15329771
>EN only cull
there is

SCs for this will be crazy good huh, 9 hours left to start and is already like this

>>15328534
Summer Fes was Botan and Towa's idea, not Pekora.

>>15328936
I thought it was a resource server reset.
When did she said about it?

Funny how the tables turned for Nijisanji, Companies would want Hololive to shill their products/games more than them nowadays.

>>15330460
Looks like Kiara organized a karaoke relay on the EN side for new years.

>>15330669
funny how now sponsorship counts kek

>>15330517
It is still great, hopefully they get sorted the "car brands" permissions so others can play, Gura wanted to for example

>>15330682
HoloEN always does something for holidays, but the EN crowd is smaller than JP.

>>15330521
this is caused by a bae and gura only cull
the algo was tuned to filter kid bait/pedo contents that are not youtube kid friendly

>>15330796
Apparently nothing was planned at all for New Years so Kiara planned it all during her last members only.

>>15330682
that would be great but i think thinks will improve once the girls come abck from their families and start streaming more and collabing more.

>>15330882
now that i think about it do the njien doesnt take breaks for family stuff?
or they still trying to grind the same slots

>>15330926
Still grinding for money. HoloENs probably got a bonus salary or something and is allowed a vacation if they want to for christmas.

>>15330926
Nexon just showered them with 6-7 figures, I'm sure they can eat.

>>15330878
EN planners are Ame and Kiara, mostly Kiara. Bae is supposed to be another organizer, but she doesn't do big collabs (yet).

>>15330576
Her 1st anniversary got 45k, people really underestimate Kanatan's SC game but she's going to overtake Aqua to get into the all-time top 5 soon

>>15330985
It really does feel like there's a certain desperation for money amongst the nijien that hololive lacks. Between stream labs opening on debut, the sc readings immediately afterwards, and them opening monetization the moment it becomes available

>>15331062
kanata is a god at zatsu and also she likes to tease her fans with GFE for batsu games.

>>15330985
I understand grinding for money but they havent taken break to visit family and stuff?
While it is nice for numebrs it will also have a toll ontheir mental health to not have a break.
i find that weird except for the flip ones.

>>15331097
NijiEN has no sponsors and 3rd party merch (they JUST got 1st party merch).

>>15331062
Kanata gets the unicorn money.

>>15331097
It's what happens when your company doesn't offer monthly salary despite making millions each year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zhZtObh0ms
Nijisanji Channel really is their strongest liver

>>15325801
EOPs are unloyal faggots. They'll hyping you to the sky one time and forget you the next day

>>15331444
A ching chong nip nong to you too

>>15327275
Nah that's just SEAnigs. They leave a like but will never watch your stream more than 5s

>>15330517
>waiting room for Kanata
She will overlap kanata 3D live just like Noel anniv

>>15331168
>they JUST got 1st party merch
Yup, it's cheap at a fair $4.40 so many people can buy some and it is unlikely to run out of stock. Hololive prints 20 of something and then they lose money for not printing enough. It sells out but does it really?

>>15331188
I've never seen a human being pander to unicorns as much as her. Plus the constant reassurance she always gives her fans that they can trust her and that she will never leave them. People think Rushia is bad but Kanata takes it to the highest level.

>>15331444
>An entertainer is never entitled to an audience. No such thing. You're either entertaining and constantly innovating in a consistent manner or you will end up forgotten. If you don't give loyalty to your fans, why would they be loyal to you?

>>15331618
>Hololive prints 20 of something
retard

Cr are doing a retrospective stream for the year of CR cups at 20jst. If Kuzuha is featured and they finish at 21jst it could help him and give him a apex tourist buff. If it streams over him, it might hurt him.

>>15331708
> '>'
What the?

>>15331444
>he doesn't know about the levels of simping the average twitchcuck does
its closer to youtube being a wider and normie audience and vtubing being a niche in the western market. out of all the problems of EN, even specifically their numbers, 'unloyal' viewers are the least backed up.

>>15331733
It's their cope of Holomerch instantly selling out please understand

>>15331733
You don't have to reply to the obvious throwaway bait anon...
It is true that Hololive has had an issue with underestimating just how fucking much demand there is for stuff that's not made-to-order though, but the only thing that was THAT horridly understocked was a promotional item that eventually was moved to mail-order (unlimited)(Those $30 holomem plushies with Donki).

>>15331329
Nijisanji ch doing stream is like Goku use Spirit Bomb. Every Niji vtubers donate their powers into Nijsanji ch

>>15331700
Yeah, kanata is a idol otaku and understands the unicorn mentally so well. She is the best at pandering to them. It's a bit of a turn off though, to non unicorn who notice it though

>>15331112
That one ASMR she did a few weeks back was really peak sex. Never thought PPT could be that seducing

Today's bronze?

>>15331839
Some contracts were signed before people saw the demand. There is a reason Don Quixote fell over themselves to start making new plushies and Bushiroad couldn't have been more happy to reprint cards. I mean it doesn't always work, the perfume took a few weeks to sell out totally. Lamy and Miko were the exception.

>>15332160
Don Quixote were surprised twice.
One by selling out instantly in stores and second by the amount of mail orders when they set up their online shop for the collab.
CDJapan (overseas sales) also sold a ton of plushies. I think it was speculated that Suisei alone sold over 10k plushies?

>>15332160
Yea, I was being a big glib with that in that was really the only collab item that you could legit say they made like, 20 of max (per store).
The perfume one was interesting. That really showed the difference in selling power between the girls, or perhaps it was merch type compatibility for the fanbases.

>>15332160
Wasn't that collab planned over a year in advance?
It had Nene's old outfit.

>>15319973
WuxiaNovelBro, please cover this battle, regardless of who wins, I enjoy them.

>>15332354
Yes the deal was signed on November 2021. Just to give you information that sponsorship deal could took a lot of time.

>>15332021

30k get. NIJISANJI BANZAI!

>>15332436
You mean 2020 right?

>>15332492
Fuck I'm retarded, yes it's 2020.

>>15332436
*2020 Anon, unless you believe they time-traveled to get that deal.
>>15332457
It very well could be the bronze if no other holomem intends to do anything interesting today (usually not on Monday nights I've noticed, but who knows what can happen)

>>15323441
>but desu Coco always had some real fucking shit CCV. Like 3-4k averages.
That's some real historical revisionism going on right here lately though.

Move here >>15332603 when you fags done