/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14974719
>>14974741
Spoonfeed me as to what this is

Why can she throw up a random stream and constantly get 8k+

>>14974854
She cute

>>14974854
>>14975008
No one else in council streams anymore. Mumei is winner, by default.

are the nijimales already dead? voice demon is sub 5k

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>46,691 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>30,074 :: Gura (Hololive)
>26,022 :: Noel (Hololive)
>23,115 :: Laplus (Hololive)
>21,393 :: Suisei (Hololive)
>20,725 :: Gura (Hololive)
>20,683 :: Vox Akuma (Nijisanji)
>19,672 :: Mysta Rias (Nijisanji)
>19,388 :: NIJISANJI English Official (Nijisanji)
>18,248 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,695 :: Noel (Hololive)
>16,656 :: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,655 :: Gachaman (Indie)
>17,528 :: Ike Eveland (Nijisanji)
>16,374 :: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji)
>15,755 :: Polka (Hololive)
>15,437 :: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,807 :: Luca Kaneshiro
>14,393 :: Flare (Hololive)
>14,320 :: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,167 :: Miko (Hololive)
>12,009 :: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,003 :: Rushia (Hololive)
>11,349 :: Calli (Hololive)
>11,176 :: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,244 :: Lui (Hololive)

Stop making threads a whole hour early fuck me

>>14977209
I made it when the thread was there threads from getting kicked off, but then the meidos deleted like six threads so blame them

>>14977188
>Can't even medal on their debuts
Lol

>>14976803
Anon, as long as it doesn't devolved into eternal gossip shit, it's discussed for the one moment it's posted and shoved out the way come the following thread. Chuuba news is more numbers related than the tribalfagging that a lot of shit posters and schizos do from time to time.

>>14974782
An OP and a reply.

>>14974782
ITT: people post numbers and things that generate numbers regardless of provenance

>>14977188
Is 20k for a debut good for NijiEN

Only 3 POV for the EN collab later: Ame, Kiara and Sana

https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1473026466535202817?s=20

>>14977464
Record high

>>14977188
Laplus has really held the numbers well after debut

Wait that Bushiroad data is in millions of yen? So the HL collab quarter was their record by like $8 million and increased like $20 million over the previous quarter? Holy Jesus I want to see the contract for that collab and the next one with EN and ID cards

>NijiEN Guy streaming again
>4k viewers

Why did you guys hype up this literal who again

algo voodoo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otlnYeRnS2k

PFFFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

>>14977188
Laplus is going pretty strong. I wonder if she can be the next consistent 15-20k+ streamer

>>14977528
Let’s just give it 2-3 weeks for debut buff to wear off and see where this all goes shall we? Although one factor: it’s ducking Xmas week. I have shopping to do and a lot of family obligations. Everyone will be weak until new year

>>14977520
>Holy Jesus I want to see the contract for that collab and the next one with EN and ID cards
Is there any chance for EN/ID cards for this? Actually is this TCG avaialble in the West (and in English)?

>>14977481

>Kiara and Sana

ame will get more than half of the viewers right

Voxfags are shaping up to be the new seleniggers and pomuniggers

>>14977604
Real talk: how many consistent 20k streamers do you guys think even exist? If you exclude Ayame and take into account ebbs and flows as girls work on concerts, idol stuff etc…. 4-5 maybe?

>>14977604
i was just thinking that she could boot up a stream of her farting on the toilet and get 20k the other day then yesterday she streamed some horror kusoge solely to say the word "toilet" a bunch of times and got 20k...

>>14977675
Apparently they will initially be event limited to the spring Holo event and include EN and ID talent. Which means scalpers and numberfags will have some fun

>>14977697
Right now there's (among vtubers) maybe 3-4? Pekora, Miko, Marine, and maybe Suisei?

>>14977687
it's the same people

>>14977528
He's like 5 times the average Nijien so he's clearly mooning in value. He just needs some clippers and he'll explode.

>>14977675
The english version of the card game is getting the hololive cards in spring.

>>14977604
Yes. She's super fun to watch.

>>14977778
No? Girls often get 2k these days. Sometimes 3k. Only Petra, Reimu and Finana struggle to hit 1k sometimes.

>>14977753

Subaru too

>>14977697
Marine, Pekora, Gura, Suisei, Miko and Subaru. Kuzuha used to be there but, you know, and Fubuki recently went up there but that's only due to her fishing streams

>>14977753
Gura also qualifies as one or is she too inconsistent?

>>14977753
Gura just about still is, more so than Suisei. Subaru and Kuzuha too.

>>14977934
Kuzuha doesn't pull 20k consistently anymore

>>14977934

Kuzuha is still a strong chuuba but he decided that is okay to stream Valorant, so his median in general had a drop

>>14977964
Maybe, was just skimming the stats from last thread and his median and mean are still both higher than Miko and Suisei this month, but I don't pay enough attention to have a feel for the consistency

>>14977464
If nothing else, their theoretical hard cap increased by 25% (15k > 20k). The question is always gonna be how much of the tourist can they convert into regulars? The real thing to look out for will be how big the daily simultaneous CCV is for NijiEN. Currently, it sits at 7-8k. The goal is to increase it to a full 15k on regular days (No event streams, bday, etc). If they can do that, I think that puts them in the conversation of Top 2 EN group in the world (above VShoujo) and in the periphery of HoloEN.

>>14977481
You can throw shit at Ame for failling out as La Creatividad meme, but she at least cares about making the sure the low members get the spotlight.
Now, is on Kiara and Sana's courner to make sure tourist enjoy their personality.

>>14977464
it's their record

HoloEn xmas collab with 3povs
ame,kiara and sana

There hasnt been that much buzz about this collab unlike the halloween one so i dont expect big numbers
5k for sana
8k for kaira
15k for ame

i could be wrong but also time slot is kinda shitty

>>14978174
Arg wish we had more Yt vs Twitch metrics since comparing is so hard. Anyone else’s surprised how low Ludwig’s numbers have been with the switch? Though his main content was nerfed so even that isn’t a great data point

>>14977464
Its very good for them.

VShojo gets 40k. Hololive in ruins.
https://www.twitch.tv/mizkif

>>14978394
>kiara
>sana
why

>>14978560
Saviorfag mentality

Overlap incoming.
Ike vs Finana vs Luca (and Vox maybe?)

>>14978530
Holoniggers BTFO
It's been more than a week since they've had 40k

4.5k for Saruei

>14978658
samefagchama..

>500 waiting for Luca's debut 2.0
Don't tell me that this will be a case where there is 2 stars and 3 bottom feeders.

>>14978658
By week you mean today ? >>14977188

>>14978778
HoloEN.

>>14978530
>twitch

>>14978530
What is this even about ? Arguing why her viewers should carry on watching her and donating to her

>>14978798
>let’s move the goal posts
Lol cuck

>>14973431

I'm intrigued by the potential of Mel over the next year or two, she is hinted at starting to embark down a trail blazed by Suisei and Watame before her. It'll take some time to produce and release enough songs to justify an live show (and album) but if she pulls it off then a comeback and sizeable numbers incline seems guaranteed for her.

>>14977697
>Real talk: how many consistent 20k streamers do you guys think even exist?
>>14977753
>Right now there's (among vtubers) maybe 3-4? Pekora, Miko, Marine, and maybe Suisei?
>>14977919
>Subaru too
>>14977922
>Gura also qualifies as one or is she too inconsistent?
>>14977934
>Gura just about still is, more so than Suisei. Subaru and Kuzuha too.
That depends on what you call "consistently"

Between August 1st and today there are only 3 streamers with 141 streams or more (meaning at least one per day) with 20k or more median
> Pekora: 31115 median, 145 streams
> Kuzuha: 26490 median, 143 streams
> Miko: 21443 median, 148 streams

If you relax it to at least one stream every two days then you add one streamer
> Gura: 22042 median, 79 streams

Now, if you consider everybody with at least 50 streams you add one more streamer
> Marine: 30759 median, 55 streams

Pic related has all streamers with over 20k median on record since 2021-08-01, but the ones not included above are not as meaningful as the ones mentioned above as they are not regular streamers but sporadic ones.

No other streamer is ahead of 20k median between August 2021 and today

>>14978865
>>14978828
It's not her, it's someone who briefly was watching her.

>>14978936
But I mean has she ever had the audience for it? She’s always been a relatively low view holo throughout her career

>>14978865
not sure looked at his twitter it seems to be a series hes doing. not sure on the purpose. i think its some sort of gameshow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o4LbPpUGTU

>>14978943
I'm not sure Sakuyui should count since it is two people and have 2 streams, last one 4 months ago.

>>14978943
What is sakuyui ? Something that involves the bully panda ?

>>14979019
yeah it is

>>14978943
>>14979137
Here is the full ranking, applying the "Ayame Rule": only streamers with 14 or more streams qualify.
I also excluded the main channels for Hololive and Nijisanji as this is supposed to measure only streamers, not channels.
>pic related
For the record Ayame would be the #1 streamer with a 31341 median without the "Ayame Rule", and that is pretty much why it exists in the first place.

The battle so far.

>>14979000
True but Mel hasn't really played her musical talents strength to full effect on her Hololive persona until recently.

One need only look at how Suisei and Moona have taken off compared to their beginnings to see what some amazing musical releases can do for one's career and views. I guess the key difference is Mel is fighting against years of prior perceptions that fans have about her and needs to break that mold/mindset towards her.

>>14978530
>>14978658
Weirdly enough this bearded suspiciously middle eastern type bloke doesn't look like VShojo. Mizkif?

>>14979321
Anon plz, refrain from posting any battle not involving at least one 10k+ streamer, it is unbecoming
>webm related

>>14979277
>31341 median
thats not the median between 18k, 27k, 60k and 99k

>Ike at 2k
>Luca at 1.4k
>Finana lol who cares

Even without overlap, the other boys won't get as much numbers as mysta and vox like i predicted

>>14979277
btw, here is something that impressed me
>Kronii, for all the flak she got, has approx the same number of streams that the beloved #1 Niji girl, Lize
>She also has 13 more streams than Mito

>>14978530
these are his past OTK stream stats for comparison.
i doubt this will affect vshojo's numbers in the long run since none of the previous high profile collabs have but its good still

>>14979321
at this rate, the NijiEN males will be under 1k by New Years...

>>14979321
>1.8k
>1.2k
Oof. Horrible numbers for debut 2.0.
>>14979277
Not much to glean from that other than HoloX pushed 5 nijis out of the top 50.

>>14979469
Guess Mysta and Vox are the stars of this gen then.
Vox is questionable but might skate by with just his voice alone.

>>14979466
>thats not the median between 18k, 27k, 60k and 99k
True but the table you're looking at spans from August 2021 to Dec 20 2021, not just this month

>>14979469
Yeah, we should stop grouping them together. There is clearly a divide. I hope people don't treat them as 5 Voxes like some people treat NijiEN like 10 Selens.

>>14979531
>August 2021 to Dec 20 2021
kek what, how many more useless tables do you have?

>>14979521
Vox will be tested in an hour when he has to go against overlap central with multiple streams starting and a pomu members

>>14979521
>skate by with just his voice alone.
Another kronii

>>14979637
unlike kronii, He already shat on donations asking for voice requests

Numbers seem to have stabilized a bit.

>Miko taking a break until after Christmas
I guess that's that for her. So much for top 5 placement in 2021Q4.
What an utterly disappointing performance from her this December, watch time hours are down by ~65%.
median is probably fucked too from today's marika frames in which one doesn't even clear 10k.
If she can't recover her number on January, she should be stripped of her top holo status imo.

>>14979685
Basedd. If only she weeded those underage comments from the start

>>14979469
>7.6k rias at 11pm jst
so their fans are all niji sea/nip fem huh

>>14979734
I don’t get it. What did she do different ? Was it all the COVID buff?

>>14979596
>useless
Mado doesn't have any full month before August meaning that's the cutting point for anything involving Nijisanji

>>14979792
no idea, i dont really watch her regularly. can any 35p itt can defend her atrocious performance this month?

>>14979734

If you follow her you would know that her health is not at the best. She took some days off during the beginning of the month too. But she has some big announcement with Korone at the 24 and she wants to stream more in January so..

>>14979907
35P are dedicated but not that big. Miko is often people's 2nd-3rd favorite holo. Also I think HoloX might have stolen some tourists with no oshi.

>>14979907
I have Migo membership so I'll bite. She's been talking about taking a break to rest her voice and spend more time with her mother 2 weeks ago. She's obviously more cautious about her health now after being taken out for 3 months last year so thats why she's been more laid back this month.

>>14979717
>Ike 2 100
Luca 1 500
Oh nyo...

>>14980212
>she's been more laid back
Thank god
Hope she won't overlap other member anniversary/event anymore

>>14977604
I believe it, Laplus is amazing. I don't think I've been so into following a single vtuber since I first started watching them 4 years ago. The only fear is if she doesn't burn out from being so high energy each stream

>>14980283
That's good. Even without the buff going on right now, they'll probably still end up with better numbers than Holostars.

>>14980459
Holostars numbers are just painful to look at

>>14980004
>Watamelon wins watamelon award
Rigged

>>14980283
Ike 2.7k
Luca 1.6k
Finana 1.7k
Finana is beating a new debut...

>>14980334
Her and Iroha are the stars of this gen with Chloe being the Rushia of Gen 6. WIth enough time and experience the purple gaki has the potential to turn into another Pekora. Iroha is still a wild card for me. She feels like a more outgoing version of Sora with a different Kayfabe and it somehow results in pretty solid numbers.

>>14980004
> Nene top 2

what the fuck

>>14979492
I guess vtubers are a debuff for normies, not surprising.

>>14980559
check the sample size anon.

>>14980548
Iroha is the daugther I didnt deserve

>>14979963
>>14980004
>>14980212
>health issues
>can't keep viewers from competition
>frequent breaks
I guess this just goes to say that she has failed to live up to spec for the honor.
Its unfortunate that the audience doesn't end up with a more consistent/healthy holo that also regularly streams long hours like Flare/Watame to replace her as one of top watch hours holos.

>>14980004
Anya...

I think someone posted numbers on the last thread about December SC numbers for Council

>Bae: $15929 in 11 streams
>Kronii: $13571 in 11 streams
>Fauna: $8573 in 12 streams
>Sana: $8123 in 10 streams
>Mumei: $7360 in 13 streams

When tf did the rat get so much money? I don't think its the Pekora effect since that was recent. Is it the Koreans?

>>14980559
see >>14980659

Also no hate towards her but any poll with RBC finishing that high, given her viewer numbers, is obviously unrepresentative.

>>14980775
I was the reddit review widows

>>14979717
B-Bros where's the fujo market?

>>14980559
Poll was done when most HoloEN fans were asleep, deep in JP hours.

>>14980775
Mumei...

>>14980004
someone should have posted a link to this in the anya petra global lol

>>14980798
I mean the picture literally says its from /vt/ and we know how much effect we actually have in the grand scale of the vtubing world. Even making a poll on reddit wouldn't give you accurate numbers since the people there forget that JP members exists.

>soda and the vshitshows have 64k
soda is the strongest male chuuba

>>14980821
Top heavy. Vox and Mysta are stars and the other three are probably Ethyria tier if lucky.

>>14980821
THE SILENT MAJORITY

Passed Towa.

>>14979277
Oof Suisei killed her numbers with today's second Mario Kart stream

Interesting notes: Finana and Luca lost 200 viewers. Ike lost 400.
1500 additional viewers came just for Vox.

Dropped to 2k already LMFAO

Current simultaneous CCV of NijiEN 7732
>4 People overlapping
>3 of which still just debuted yesterday
Would be reaaalllly interesting to see what viewership looks like if Selen and Elira happened to stream at the same time too.

>>14981857
The manjisanji effect is starting

>>14981857
>>14981879
Oh No No No Nijibros....

>>14977604
>>14977497
There is a reason for that though.

>>14982351
I hope she never does it, some senpai probably told her how little it is compared to other revenue sources she can get

>>14982351

Yeah. The other girls from HoloX would have way better medians but spamming these SC reading just hurts. Lui especially. She gets ok-good numbers in gaming streams but then does some SC reading with like 1-2k. All wasted.

>>14978530
Numbers looking good. Great stream too.

>>14982594
soda takes home the gold looks we have a new KING boys

>>14982594
Why do so many people show up for this, but not their actual streams?

>>14982685
Because it's not their channel?

>>14982685
>>14979492
That's the typical number of people who show up to Mizkif's Parasocial show.

>>14982741
Ah thanks

>>14982685
It's mizkif's viewers not vshojo's

>>14982594
>poop
>masturbate
I see, they must be having very thoughtful discussions
now I understand why people from here hates twitch

>>14981857
Ike ended. Current stats.
1k funneled to Vox, 200 to Luca and the rest left.

>>14982852
Here's a screenshot from a split thread for some fun.

Culled again. Lost 2k subs once more.

>>14983113
I can't even tell if the one on the right is being ironic or not...

>>14983113
He should get one of the Niji girls on discord to read them

>>14983113
fucking cringe

>>14982351
Has anyone done superchats readings as prerecorded videos or shorts? Did it go over well?

>>14983113
*SNAP*
>Yep, that's going into my cringe compilation

>>14983113
I mean it's probably good for their numbers if they cultivate a fanbase of rabid horny 14 year old girls but it sure would make me want to kill myself

Doesn't look like this VR chat collab will get many views (especially with these atrocious POVs). Guess the novelty is wearing off. Shame, I like the myth only ones.

>>14982785
honorary vsojo? just like hal to nijis

judging from the waiting rooms ame is gonna mog the other two povs

>>14983113
And these women dare insult us when simp?
They're even worse than men in simping.

>>14978530
>entire chat is just shitting on her audience

>>14983744
I'm a holofag but I'll kinda feel bad for them if all they attracted was the 14 year old girl market.
One of the most toxic types of fans.

>>14983490
is not as shilled as the halloween one and the time slot sucks.
Also Ame said it wouldn't be as complex as the Halloween ones but will be more chill, she was considering only one pov originally.As i said these would be the numebrs.>>14978394 May bee if it goes for long it will increase as burger prime time comes but doubt it.

Ame: peak at 30k
Kiara: peak at 12k
Sana: peak at 8k

>>14983113
Holy Shit, I feel bad for the dude - this is on par with the 'Ger Loke' male-types. YIKES

>>14983490
>>14983845
wow they're going hard to boost Sana
well i do hope she could at least pass choco sub account before 2021 end tho

>>14983113
Its obvious they are asking for fanfic material, and if this guy is smart he should have answer these question properly.

>>14983966
>Ame: peak at 30k
Maybe if it was Gura doing the POV. 20k max

>>14983966
That is some optimistic numbers.

>>14984067
>I feel bad for the dude -
Either him or his manager decided to answer that question to begin with so don't be, he could have easily ignored it after all.

Nijibros don't look!

Is it just me or did the new nijimales got their subs slashed by Susan again?

>>14985058

yup they did. 2k I think

>>14985058
Better pray I don't do it again.

has this board gotten to the point where newfags don't know why it was created?

>>14985407
Why it was created? I know something about spamming /qa/ and the wojak posters were involved but a qrd would be good

>>14985662
do your reps

>>14985662
this board was made to contain Risu

>>14985058
>>14985124
Council also got their subs culled 2x even after they already streamed.
HoloX however had the sub culling stop before Orca Debuted.

Since Nijimales are still getting culled means Susan hates EN Chuubas

Here is something different from the usual chart
>Holo - VShojo combined average CCV chart
VShojo comes from twitchtracker, Holo comes from Holostats as usual

>>14986149
Nice job Anon, thank you !

>>14984872
Today We will remind /vt/, of how petty they are, and always have been.

>>14981643
Passed Polka too.

>>14986373
What the hell? An harmless image of Korone/Okayu was deleted just because they're Hololive?

Hahahah No wonder holofags hates Nijifags so much

>6k for Sana
Looks like she's gonna pull away. Selen might have to wait until January to beat Sana.

>>14986434
>>14981643
who is this faggot and if his sub number so hight, why i never see his name in daily tally, not even in 10k range

>>14985956
>HoloX however had the sub culling stop before Orca Debuted.
There was still a culling on the and that was also 6 days after their accounts were created.

>>14986629
>why i never see his name in daily tally, not even in 10k range
Likely because he's not a vtuber, not even a convert and he doesn't live stream as well but upload shorts

>>14986373
>>14986558
>some random /vyt/ janny deleted a holobrony pic (probably by accident)
>must've been a niji fan even though /vyt/ housed a fuckton of different fanbases back then
Rent free holobronies

>>14986872

>(probably by accident)

he really believes that

>>14986629
hes just spams minecraft shorts on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/c/ChuyMineVR/videos
his streams get shit numbers
https://twitchtracker.com/chuymine

>>14986872
Well the coincidence is sus. But ok it being deleted by accident is possible.

But look at that Nijifag celebrating

>the only nijimale with any chance of cultivating the fujos has an obvious gf/orbiter mod
cucking his fans just like ina did, honestly, based

>>14987028
There were holo OPs that weren't deleted before, so it must've been by accident. Probably meant to delete some NSFW pic instead and deleted the wrong one.

>>14986149
Go Astel Go!

>>14987167
Imagine believing this so hard one says it out loud

>>14986661
damn, iroha was dead last, now passed baelz and fauna
strong samurai!!

>>14987094
So basically he got the 12 year old spic minecraft algorithm.

>>14987251
Stop using Selen to falseflag holobrony piece of shit

>>14987098
That's just typical shitposting man.

>>14987094

jesus

man, koyori really is another watame huh

>>14983490
only 32k from the 3 POV.

>>14987356
How can now resist this contagious laughter, specially at the expense of some fool like yourself

>gura badly reviewing memes gets more views than the entirety of HoloEN
jesas

>>14987570
>he thought that "chumtourists" was a meme

>>14986149
Speaking of mean average CCV, here is Hololive JP for all the months Holostats has record

This month is the third best on record, beating Coco graduation buffed months and trailing only
>November 2021
>November 2020

>>14987448
Oh nononononono. How do we save him bros? Should he graduate?

>>14987653
ame is at 20k. if they had chosen anyone other than sana and kiara it would be better numbers

>>14985956
>HoloX however had the sub culling stop before Orca Debuted
that's not true, they were still culled a lot even 2 days after Iroha debut, but they were growing so fast that it was only visible at midnight

>>14987675
November bros.... We fucking won.

>>14987486
Is holoen dead?

>>14987448
KING OF DEADSUBS

>>14987837
>2 of the 3 POV's are kiara and sana of all people
at least get better material

>>14987675
why is november so good for views

>>14987767
Should've been Gura, Ame, IRyS.
>IRyS is sick so replace her with Kronii

>>14987448
No wonder he keeps shilling himself here. He's a goddamn 3view shitter. Kek.

>>14987477
A cute animal themed hag who will get good solid if somewhat unspectacular numbers all around? Agreed

is this what they mean by box pushing

>>14987949
It's not november, it's what happened in that month.
2020: the convergence of the return of Miko (from an Hiatus), Coco and Haachama (from chinkout suspension), the finale of the PekoMoona arc, the first few JP reaching 1M and the peak of HoloEN novelty
2021: SportsFes and HoloX

>>14987934
Carrying both debuffs in Gens is a good idea for better CCV/graphs, so I kind of understand it

More views for ame than i thought intially.

Numbers makes sense as kaira is not experienced with the camera and sana is sana. sana has 1k more than i expected.
Pretty ok collab for the timeslot

>>14988365
Sana will be playing Pokemon again later tho.
But it's 12:00JST this time.
So Selen still have a chance to beat Sana?

>>14987971
>Kronii
T.Threadreader
Let's be real, if they wanted good numbers Gura alone would had been the best choice.
Her POV of Usaken summer festival mogged all of EN and many JP.

>>14988545
she is doing it next to calli so they will be togheter on VC probably

>>14988630
Not all HoloENfags likes Gura.
And this stream is good with atleast 2 POVs, this is Ame's idea so it's only fair she gets a POV.
Now they also need a representative for Council, Kronii is top council so...

>>14988545
Dec isn't over yet tho we have 9-10 days left

EN market is midget tier

>>14988893
koyori...

>>14988843
>Not all HoloENfags likes Gura
Meaningless statement. They like her the most, and she gets the biggest numbers.

>>14988944
She's reading SCs

>>14988944

she is reading SCs, pretty normal number for it

>>14988944
she's doing sc reading... for like the 15th time

>>14989028
Her peak wasnt thatbig
still this is a shit timeslot

>>14985847
I came here 3 months after it was created and the only place where I could've asked was /qa/, which is dead now.

>>14988545
>So Selen still have a chance to beat Sana?
Selen has a 3k ceiling she never broke so far. Sana is way ahead of 3k and would take 4 streams below 2826 for the median to go to 2826 without a single one being ahead of that number.

Maybe in 2022

>>14988974
It's still better to have more than 1 POV on this kind of stream.

>>14988944
She peaked at 8k.
>A decent number on this timeslot. (though i did expected more from HoloX)

>>14988893
Vox is the male Selen
>DISCUSS

>>14989334
kek only Elira broke the 3k median ceiling. poor Selen

>>14989420
he sucks at smash so no

>>14989086
I know people here love shitting on gen 6 SC reading but she did it in the same frame and got through it pretty quickly, totally normal for any stream to have that

>>14980755
Are you fucking retarded? Miko is near the top of the list for hours streamed.

1. Watame
2. Pekora
3. Kiara
4. Flare
5. Miko

And honestly, Watame and Kiara should hardly count since they are known for doing 1 million hour super chat readings.

>>14989504
>he sucks at his signature game
<MALE SELEN?
>MALE SELEN!

>>14989407
>It's still better to have more than 1 POV on this kind of stream.
Agreed. Let Ame keep MC POV, give Gura and Kronii POVs. People want to see Same-chan and Korean Clock.

>>14988893
>full EN 3D collab is basically the same as a guerilla zatsu for laplus
EN is kill

>>14989653
ESL

>>14985662
unironically because Hololive exploded in popularity and /jp/ gotten out of control. crossthreaders baitposting every day for weeks. basically this board but 3x worse and only Hololive threads during those times.

>>14979734
>she should be stripped of her top holo status
Oh fuck off

Miko has been #2 in hours watched pretty much every single month of the year. She is busy moving this month and is taking it easy. She has earned it with how hard she worked this year. You are a faggot.

>>14989555
Here is the table for hours streamed in 2021 so far.

>>14988893
full EN collab = 34,689 vs 1 Peko stream >>14977188 46,691

>>14989887
can't let the board be nothing other than 8 pages of 2hu threads and only 2 pages of actual good threads

>>14989504
well selen suck at her main game as well so.. yea male selen

>>14989407
The debut buff is pretty much gone by now, it's been almost a month. For the second least popular member to get 8k for a morning stream is definitely pretty good
>>14989555
I swear you retards have never watched a Watame SC reading in your lives, they're just her zatsudans, she spends more time just chatting than reading the supas

>>14989918
>Lui has over half of Kroniis hours depite only being active for 3 weeks compared to 5 months

>>14988893
>Kiara AND Sana
Who was the genius that thought it was a good idea as if Kiara debuff field wasn't bad enough already.

>>14990220
ame

>>14990041
there was also the meido civil war

>>14989918
Here is for hours watched, also for 2021 so far.

Miko is well suited to stay at #2 even with a rest

>>14989918
god i hope lui beats ayame for the entire year, i'd piss myself laughing

>>14989420
I don't think he'll be the ace. Didn't the guy from last night peaked at 7k?

>>14990220
They're trying to help Sana.
>i hope she doesn't waste it by going MIA again

>>14989918
Pizza papa... I kneel.

If only hours translated directly into numbers.

>>14988893
What happened nijikeks? I thought vox is your strongest nijiEN? Barely 3k LMAO

>>14989334
Her shiny hunt might get above 3k so that might be the dagger.

>>14989918

>>14990220
man, are they actually trying to save their shitters? thats cute but it's gonna hurt them

>>14990346
Anon, Ayame is in a different championship. The least she streams while staying at the top of the SC and median peak CCV game the more she wins

>>14990402
I mean.. Barely 3k is a strong performance for nijiEN. So the statement isnt wrong.

>>14989918
aruran "work hard not smart" deisu

>>14990474
I think so,
Also notice how most HoloX collabs happens in Lui and Koyori's channel.
>Is it the girls themselves? or the managers are commanding them to save the others?

>>14990402
sea audience

>>14990220
This is downright terrible. The fact that Fubuki fishing will mog the combined EN christmas special will only provide more bait for shitposters

>>14990474
that what make them different from Nijisanji, they not focus only on star talents like nijisanji

>>14990041
It was confined to two threads for the longest time but for whatever reason the /v/ and /qa/ mod hated shark meido and how he was moderating the board so they went to war (it was more of a one sided war since it was 2 mods against a janny).

>>14990589
>>14990402
I mean this is the Gen that nijifags predicted getting 40k Debut numbers and will make HoloEN irrelevant right?

>>14990723
Holy ESL.

You're not wrong though.

>>14990702
To be honest these VR streams aren't that great. They reek of cope for not having 3D.

>>14990474
For better or worse, they do keep helping out the runts, they even gave Bae the sports festival POV.

>>14990513
>top of the SC
Obviously her superchat per hours streamed is insane but I wouldn't say she's at the top of the SC game, she's going to finish the year at around #25

>>14990880
to be fair, no one wants to stream the sports festival POV

>>14990805
People exaggerate and make big claims all the time. Plus the obvious shitposting.

But lets be real, you would have to have maggots in your skull to genuinely believe holoEN was in any danger.

>>14990702
EN suffers terribly from never properly advertising. For some reason they announced this was VR only days ago, and it's nowhere near NA prime time (see Gura getting like 16k in minecra for the same timeslot during a guerrilla).
People underestimate how bad the numbers get outside NA prime time.

>>14990805
no, that's wave 8

>>14990775
Did hiromoot kick those two out or he is still useless like usual?

>>14990942
>nobody wants free numbers and a huge tourist spotlight
uh, sure

>>14990880
>>14990942
Correct me if i'm wrong but Bae and IRyS were chosen as the camera girl is because they can speak both EN and JP right?

>>14991021
The issue with these types of collabs is that a lot of people just wait for the compilation of all the best parts of each POV.

>>14991084
>hiromoot
>doing anything

>>14990474
Unlike Nijis, Holos will carry each other, manjisanji will soon appear and infect NijiEN girls wait for it LMAO

>>14991078
Wave 1487 bros, 8 more years bros.

Trust the plan bros.

>>14990723
I know you guys don't watch Niji but this narrative is really dumb when absolute shitters like Todoroki Kyoko (who arguably has the lowest numbers of any JP that regularly streams) was part of Nijirock over one of the popular members

>>14991131
And I usually shit one those people but imagine you want to watch some gooruh but she has no POV and you gotta jump between 3 channels to catch a glimpse of her. Fuck that, some clipfaggot will do the job for me.

>>14990917
>but I wouldn't say she's at the top of the SC game, she's going to finish the year at around #25
With the lowest hours streamed (see >>14989918) of all Holos, except maybe (big maybe) HoloX, including the recently debutted Council.

Interestingly enough she outranks Matsuri in hours watched (see >>14990304)

>>14991125
No,iirc kiara said that is because no one offered themselves to stream the POV and ame backed out when bae offered herself to stream one of the POVs

>>14990834
The VR content is some of the worst collab content in my opinion. It was novel the first time. Now it's just lame. It's not "creative" in the least.

anyone keeping track on how those schizo shorts chammers is spamming are doing

>>14991125
IRyS inherited the position because Moona wasn't guaranteed to participate due to college exams

>>14990834
>They reek of cope for not having 3D.
So much this, worse of all is that Ame uses hers so fucking much that it already lost the novelty.

>>14991381
>Now it's just lame. It's not "creative" in the least
be careful anon, you are going to summon the teamates

>>14991021
Council was supposed to fill in the time in between streams to establish a good primetime. Shame that they became so lazy.

>Ayame 43,545 (4)
>Toya 33,400 (5) +1 later niji marika main game lottery guaranteed 80k-100k
we need another ayame event holobros or toya will take this month.

>>14991413
Most successful in the recent batch was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpNgAa9pq0
the one she admits defeat to La+ and starts her Rap arc, whichi reached 1M

The rest are doing OK, around 200k but nothing remarkable

>>14991125
No, IIRC it was Fauna that implied that no one really wanted to do it, she then said that if no one else wanted she would do it, but fortunately Irys decided to do it.

>>14991604
Next Ayame stream is her median if it falls between 27k and 60k.
If it falls ahead of this range it's 60k, and if it falls below it's 27k

>>14979000
>has she ever had the audience for it?
Aside from holos, I check out vsingers. Mel already has more subs and CCV than most of them and they still manage to sell successful sololives. Audience is not that big of a problem for her especially since she can convince a higher-tier holo or two to make a guest appearance and boost hype and sales that way

>>14991352
>>14991671
Wtf!? Why they didnt want to show their pov?

>>14991860
Anon, the cameraman in the SportsFes is responsible for catching everybody else's POV, a huge task and one that forces it to *not* have their own POV.

Think of it as the "designated driver" of the group, everybody else is having carefree fun with booze and hookers and you're sitting in a corner, sober and cockblocked

>>14991860
It's a 8~ hours stream where you have to do the usual streaming thing but also work as a cameraman for the entire team, I can see why people would want to avoid that.

>>14991860
Because it's a pain in the ass? You need to actually deliberately film stuff as it happens.

>>14991381
Yeah, it's boring because it is all over the place with 11 people, most talking at once. No focus.

>>14991795
I hope she is part of the holo Christmas singing relay. I don't trust Peko to maintain 33k median

Vox is still maintaning 3k+ even with a lot of overlaps (from the girls). Seems like they succeeded in bringing a new audience.

>>14991381
Nah, Halloween collab was great, but it was actually well-organized. This is too chaotic. Also, proximity chat is awful, you can't hear half of the stuff they say.

>>14992321
You should, never underestimate the crazy rabbit.

>>14992397
>nijinigger still doesn't understand debut buffs
Fucking pathetic bro, he debuted yesterday.

>>14992397
They absolutely did. 8.7k are watching with most of them not streaming. I'm not ready to crown them but it doesn't seem like the wrong move.

>>14992571
Retard. I meant that he didn't drop in viewers when the girls started their streams. Also, NijiEN barely has debut buff at all. Ethyria was already down to 1k streams at this point.

>>14992397
i will wait for next week

>>14992571
Anon nijikeks standard is 1k+

>>14992397
its the chronoir fanbase now they have an English chuuba they can watch.

>>14992695
Good sign for nijimales. But we still need to see if those people stick around after a week.

>>14992695
>Ethyria was already down to 1k streams at this point.
That's because they're exceptionally dumb broads.

>>14992695
>Ethyria was already down to 1k streams at this point.
That's because Ethyria was retarded and did superchat reading as their first stream, plus tons of watchalong.

>>14992695
You'll see, the novelty will plummet in just a few week. Happens every time.

>>14992852
X
>>14992861
As long as they grow it. Maybe they'll attract more tourists as time goes on.

>>14992397
girls numbers seems to be unaffected by the males too

>Selen can't even beat Vox

Hahaha dragon.....

>full HoloEN collab gets only 36k
People either hate VR or this is a massive recline.

Today's superchats

>>14993952
so many sc monsters

>>14993914
Holiday debuff. Also, yes, VR is not that exciting.

>>14993952
I haven't been paying attention to iroha, is she baiting for supas or is she saviorfag material?

>>14994186
she's daughter material

>>14993914
Anon your false flagging is so obvious this collab have kiara/sana as a camera it's just common sense

>>14993914
Both
>HoloEN did recline (but not too much as people claim)
>The VR isn't that exciting anymore and December debuff

>>14993952
>11 of 12 are in hololive
SCs are just getting too big.

>>14994277
Still, it feels low.

>>14993914
>massive recline
their usual cap is 20-30k if Gura isn't streaming, 30-40k if she is. Their Halloween only got 40k total btw.

>>14993914
To be honest the novelty is no longer there. It's the same goofy models we have already see multiple times BUT IT'S CHRISTMAS THIS TIME. only people watching are the ones that like the raw chaos of not being able to understand a thing they say for an hour

>>14994334
>HoloEN did recline
Not since October. It's just the format, POVs and time slot desu

What the fuck? Mysta got this much for his second stream? I kneel. Will he be more watched than Vox?

>>14994186
She's basically Daisenpai but more outgoing. Its surprising since she's not baiting them like Chloe. She's not even getting bullied by her chat either like La+. She's literally the most seiso Holo that's debuted in a while.

>>14987767
>ame is at 20k. if they had chosen anyone other than sana and kiara it would be better numbers
They probably picked Sana and Kiara specifically because they're the runts of their gens.

>>14994789
He's retarded and women like that

>>14993952
December superchats so far
>Chloe - $197,494
>Iroha - $144,409
>Laplus - $116,636
>Pekora - $94,381
>Rushia - $91,133
>Koyori - $83,216
>Nene - $76,488
>Hayato - $66,371
>Ayame - $59,919
>Flare - $57,920
>Lui - $53,665
>Lamy - $53,141
>Fubuki - $49,881
>Shion - $49,688
>Mori - $45,762
>Kanata - $44,322
>kson - $33,595
>Mishiro - $30,540

>>14994925

>>14994789
Untapped timezone? he streams EU times right?

>9.4k+
new audience, without affecting their females. NijiEN inclining

Did HoloEN Recline?
>Yes they did due to their weak schedules and constant breaks. Also, note that December is a bit weak of a month for ccv.
Can HoloEN Recover?
>Yes, they(every member) just need to stream 6x a week and do more collabs.
NijiEN is near HoloEN's Level?
>Nope, they're still very far but with the Nijimales. NijiEN > HoloID will finally be 100% true

>>14995190
>Almost all of them are from Hololive

>>14991860
They'd have to talk to Omegaman.

It's really view sabotage how they don't let some hype build up for these songs

>>14994925
probably the only ones who offer to be camera man
that shit is awful on vchat and we know how
Fauna,bae,irys,ina were camera man last time.
So it leaves gura,mori,kornii,mumei,sana,kiara
gura would be a terrible camera man, mumei is not available to stream right now.

>>14995371
>only 3k after their debut
what happened?

>>14995744
>>14990694

>>14995474
15/18 is not "almost half" lmao

>>14993914
>2020: 46,945
>2021: 36k
holokeks???

>>14995834
Okay, sizable majority.

>>14995375
>Can HoloEN Recover?
>>Yes, they(every member) just need to stream 6x a week and do more collabs.
I'm curious, Kiara streams constantly, doesnt take breaks and does a fair bit of collabing and is still reclining. Just the December debuff?

>>14995744
doesn't matter tho they increased their audience and has EN male monopoly

>>14995824
nijisanji was sea all this time?

>>14995917
and the schedules

>>14993914
anon the recline is obvious
everything else is just cope

>>14995901
unironically they can get 50k if it's on minecraft instead.

Nijikeks are fucking pathetic, but to be fair, HoloX dumbfucks were insisting debut numbers were also the new norm or indicative of massive power . Gura killers, Pekora killers etc

One day you fags will learn not to take debut numbers seriously

>>14995921
sad cope

>>14996014
Yep, just do this fucking shit in Minecraft, like your JP senpai. Why are they so retarded?

>>14995901
>Minecraft
>Gura POV
why is this thread allergic to context?

>>14995190
Jesus if Fubuki catches the damn fish by the end of the year and Kanata gets $45k for her anniversary like last year there's a good chance that NINE different holos will earn >100k this month, Yagoo must be literally rolling around in money

>>14995917
>I'm curious, Kiara streams constantly, doesnt take breaks and does a fair bit of collabing and is still reclining. Just the December debuff?
She's been spamming debuff games this year which has really affected her numbers.

numbers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPyLnwSXqkA
its on the main channel so a bit of a nerf

>>14996375
15k premiere

>>14996222
>Minecraft it's easier and cheaper, mayor views
>VR expensive and dificult, minor views
Amelichi Retardson...

>>14996375
7k waiting

>>14996452
>mayor views
that's enough reason to not do it in Minecraft specifically, remember that amelia is anti numberfag prime

>>14996548
Ironically true

>>14996375
it will barely be a footbote. Even coontent that the community really likes underperforms on that channel and 12 days is objectively the worst christmas song so it won't be enticing in the recommendations.

>>14995190
>Mishiro
who?

>>14996653
>country roads
>now 12 days
the absolute state of omega's taste in music

>>14996653
I mean jeeze

>>14996653
not to mention it was announced 20 minutes before premier

>>14995371
I said in here for months that the males would bring a lot of the female audience, mainly the female who are chronoir fans on discord/twitter, or holostar fans, or niji jp male fans. There was a lot of demand and criticism from niji fans for nijisanji to not having it, and with those plus new niji fans coming in, the result is this: a bigger audience.

These are rrats
>Ame is pushing this Walfie 3D is to show how much they wanted a 3D
>Gura is constantly on breaks due to being pissed with how incompetent management is with game perms
>Sana knows she's the runt of HoloEN
>Kronii debuffs herself so that she won't be #1 Council

>>14996801
lol, shows how dead the channel is since fauna isn't even modded

>>14996941
Why would you debuff yourself?
someone need to carry council right know...

>>14996837
That doesn't have to be a bad thing if they do it right. Ludwig for example is really good about pinning a link in chat to funnel his viewers and it boosts his mailbag videos strongly.
They could have also run some token poll earlier in the week to get interactions ahead of the release.

>>14997056
>someone needs to carry council right now
mumei...

on the topic of numbers who will get
>>15000000

>>14996868
>NijiEN reveal
>fans ask where males
>no males for 3 waves
>suddenly males
>most popular wave thus far
>surprised pikachu face
Anykara management is fucking worse than Omegatroon. Just fucking Christ, people have been clamoring for males since day 1

>>14997184

This whole smol3D cringe will kill their actual 3D debut numbers

11k+

>>14997477
reimu... don't look...

>>14997477
reimu...

>>14997228
more popular wave is lazulight retardchama... And they opened the third and fourth wave together.

>>14997477
Fantasma....

>>14997477
graduate reimu already

>>14997228
who is surprised? You sure don't think they are considering they even planned to launch them already with their merchandise alongside all the other waves? It's obviously planned.

>>14997477
That's actually good for them.
Now if only they can keep it this way.

>>14997690
shes streaming a jp only collab with a no view KR guy on a game nobody cares about with 5 overlapping streams, nobody expects that to get viewers

>>14997477
>>14997578
>>14997594
>>14997682
>>14997690
Give her time. She just began so she needs more. In 10-20 minutes she's going to go at least to 500.

>>14995917
Kiara streams boring games at shit hours.

>>14997986
>In 10-20 minutes she's going to go at least to 500.

>>14997968
yeah it's a huge debuff. Most people won't chose her except her most fervent fans who watch anythng she does.

>>14995190
>kson - $33,595
Why is she so low? Did something happen?

Uno has 100+ viewers early morning, pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmxPzj9zbVY

>>14998164
the jew happened

>>14998164
coma chama
Nux effect and Trashtaste efffect

>>14998164
Took a lot of time off this month.

>>14996375
>Its not a hololive version
Why? What's the point?