/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>14774594
Get a gf

>>14774594
>female vtubers interacting with males
who?

>>14774594
Why is a Haaton getting offended on Nijisanji's behalf? Post an image of Selen next time.

>>14775135
If it was that easy do you think I'd still be here?

Just don't be autistic.

Take your meds and talk to women.

Parasociality is real.

>>14775192
I used this image because it sums up how I feel. When I feel this way, my stomach starts to hurt and it makes me not want to eat.

>>14774594
Learn to love the males. You will be happy for them. If you had male friends who got girlfriends irl you might be kind of jealous, but ultimately if you actually love your friends you will be more happy for them than jealous.

>>14775276
>Take your meds and talk to women
Go back to your subreddit.

>>14775384
4chan is a public website retard

>>14775331
Yeah, as the OP I 100% admit to being everything you've probably heard about being parasocial. I think if I had a real social life I wouldn't be this way. But I've been saying for years I want to change and have never been able to, so I've pretty much given up on that front.

>>14775384
>implying redditors can at least talk to women, where you can't
Whew, you showed him

>>14775534
That wasn't me.

>>14775276
NTA but I'm pretty much the same while having friends and talking with women, I even rejected a girl because I unironically love my oshi. Do I really need meds?

>>14775410
So is reddit.

Come to terms with the fact that unless you're watching an actual 2 view none of these women actually like you the same way you like them. You're just a number to them, most of the times they act like they care for you they're just doing it because pandering to very lonely and emotionally vulnerable men is a proven way to make profits. That last point doesn't apply to all of the girls of course, but it's valid more often than not. Don't put so much of your emotions into this hobby because in the end it's never worth it.

>>14775657
If you rejected an actual girl for your oshi then you are in a hell of your own creation. It didn't have to be this way anon. But you can fix this.

>>14774594
Would a girlfriend solve OP's problems?

>>14775885
No. It's born of his own jealously and insecurity. I don't say this to this to demean op but his source of suffering is completely internal. A 10/10 GF would boost his ego for a bit but I ain't the cure. The only cure is for OP to stop being a NEET. Which is hard, unbelievably difficult, and a painful process but the only other option is to neck himself. Or just learn how to bury your emotions until one day they spill out and you neck yourself then. GL OP hope you make it.

>>14775885
No. There is no cure for autismo

What's the end goal of being into a vtuber for GFE? You get strung along for a few years before she graduates and you're left with nothing?

>>14776389
Exactly. Parasocial relationships all end in pain, every single one. Remember this well.

>>14774594
This thread reeks of blatant falseflagging, but I'll bite.Take up lifting and figure out an exercise routine. Hit the gym. It gives you a nice boost in confidence, which seems like something you lack based on your envy. I mean, why should I give a shit about my oshi talking to some other dude when I most likely physically mog him in every way?

>>14775874
>This

>>14775229
nobody said it was easy but you still have to do it if you're not going to get over your parasocial responses

>>14774594
By taking your meds.

>>14774594
No, you don't need to get over that feeling, just accept it. New purity bros are needed the age of degeneracy

>>14774594
meds and therapy.
Unironically.

>>14774594
It's a sign you haven't been brainwashed to be a cuck yet.

Your oshi is interacting with males every time she reads chat.

>>14774594
Unironically get a therapist. Your feelings are unnatural and unhealthy. Understand that they are not your girlfriends, will never be, and that their relationship with their fellow chuubas is most likely platonic anyway. You should try to get actual friends, or at least talk to real people, but that may be easier said than done.

>>14777183
OP literally describes a completely degenerate behavior. Not sure what the fuck are people here doing larping as some based trads because they're romantically dependent on an anime girl on their screen and completely deluded about it.

>>14774594

>>14774594
It's natural and you shouldn't.

>>14774594
you´re having a parasocial relationship most likely becuase you´re lonely, you connect with this girls because they probably have similar tastes to you in anime, games, etc and it´s something you wanna have irl. some advice as I did have something similar before (but insteads of vtubers it was with youtube groups): accept what you like (dont hide it but also dont be a retard about it), if you wanna change something about yourself like anxiousness, your body or something of the like is gonna take time, so bite the bullet, be patient and do it, and last but not least, socialize more and find people that like the same as you. sound easy but it´s gonna be tedious, but the results are good. now I am in college, I have friends that like the same type of anime and music I do, we hang out, we went to some cons, etc etc etc. and let me tell you that feeling of loneliness just disappears if you´re with friends (and if you play it right maybe a gf)

>>14774594
Just don't watch whores that collab with dudes. Why would you? There's plenty that don't. Don't reward this behaviour and just drop the retarded ones that do. If all you pathetic faggots did this instead of feeling bad and crying about it, it would be a career sentence and happen a lot less.
It's just an anime girl streamer, go support another if she stops giving you what you want.

>Just don't watch whores that collab with dudes. Why would you? There's plenty that don't. Don't reward this behaviour and just drop the retarded ones that do. If all you pathetic faggots did this instead of feeling bad and crying about it, it would be a career sentence and happen a lot less.
>It's just an anime girl streamer, go support another if she stops giving you what you want.

>Unironic nijitrannies.

>>14774594
This is a bait thread, but the answer is to become a dark triad nihilist. Start looking at chubas only as a means to amuse you. Live the rest of your life with a hole in your heart that would've otherwise been filled by a delusional existence facilitated by the religious repression of women's sexuality that's come to be frowned upon by the modern world. This is the way.

>>14776584
TFW your oshi likes twinks and will look at you with disgust elmao.

>>14777731
OP puts his heart and mind on it because the anime girl is not a degenerate in the first place. Of course he'll feel betrayed. Wishing for a happy end with the anime girl is not degeneracy, being a cuck is

>>14774594
dude, they're entertainers, they're not your fucking gf. it's okay if the "GFE" part is something you enjoy, but get a grip. these women don't know who you are and they never will.

>>14775657
Yes, take your meds

Stop watching chuubas

>>14774594
You have a maladapted social life and, rather than put yourself "out there" and make friends IRL, you do the thing where you instead watch other people having fun and experiencing FOMO. You are probably also a kissless virgin, so you are mixing this feeling of being 'left out' of fun social interactions with other adults with your desire to form a romantic attachment with women.
Your "jealousy" is based on you having "settled" for watching youngish women have good social interactions, and your mind has decided to cope with your foreveralone status by saying "w-well I just enjoy watching cute girls have fun together!" This is the closest you feel you ever will be to seeing girls smiling and laughing with you able to watch them doing so, and your 'jealousy' is that the males being added to their friend groups means that THEY will be the ones making them have a good time and be happier, not you. Since you are incapable/not willing to put in the effort to do so, even as a friend (let alone a romantic partner), you are in the end angry at yourself for not having the ability to engage in normal social interactions like they can.

>>14774594
I know this is bait, but I'll bite. Every time you experience the feel, notice it, examine at it and tell yourself that it's bad, that you should stop feeling that way, then do your best to suppress it. Maybe tell yourself how pathetic it is to feel that way. After several months, you'll not only weaken that reaction, but hopefully emotionally distance yourself from fucking streamers all together. Step into the dark anon, numb yourself, sever unneccessary emotional connections. Become schizoid.

>>14775657
Depends. Can you overcome rejecting 3dpd in favor of your oshi? If not, then I regret meds will probably be required. You can have both. I do. But then, I literally need (and take) meds.

>>14787654
I know this is bait, but anon don't do this. you're basically speedrunning suicide.

>>14787395
This probably explains a lot of this board right now

>>14774594
It's a natural reaction. If you don't feel that you are a born cuck.

>>14774594
You're using them as emotional crutches. You need more hobbies or passions that have nothing to do with women (both 2D and 3D). Before women came about, what were you doing? What were the things that interested you?

>>14775534
1. Telling someone to talk to women online does not mean they themselves can or do talk to women just that they parrot shitty normalfag advice out of a desire to be normalfags themselves.
2. Implying women are worth talking to and that in an ideal world they'd have no voting rights and basically be sold and traded like cattle because their capacity for loyalty and empathy is lower than some beasts.

>>14793965
Cuckoldry requires an extant (romantic) relationship. Chuubas will never know so much as know your name unless you throw them an akasupa, and then it's just "some random person gave me money on the internet".
It's only "natural" if you are a fucking loser with zero IRL friends or relationships who earnestly believes that watching a person exist makes you their friend, let alone their romantic partner. It doesn't.
>picrel: pop a couple, you seem like you need em

>>14774594

As many have said, this is a parasocial relationship. They don't know you. You are not their friend. 99% chance that you will never be their friend or interact with you in that manner.
They may seem chill or maybe if you're in the chat often you'll get noticed but that's it. They notice you. There will be no reaching out to you to hang out or be friends. I think as long as you can get over that fact, you'll be on the road to feeling less shitty

And I'm not saying that it will NEVER happen, but the chances are very very very very slim. You may have a better chance with a smaller streamer if friendship or whatever is what you're looking for. In my experience, just go in there with the mindset of having a good time and nothing else. Be chill, be cool, and don't be a schizo autist. Just like any friendship, online or IRL, it takes time.

What helped me get over how "attached" I was to these girls was I just forced myself to watch less of them. When I first started I was in a bad place so I relied on vtubers as a crutch of sorts. Everything in moderation. Find friends who have the same interest. Hell, maybe friends who love vtubers as much as you. Sooner or later you'll be doing shit outside of doing vtubers shit. Honestly just get yourself away from vtuber and come back later. You might feel better then

>>14794130
Words evolve over time and "cuck" is no longer a word used to explain literal cuckoldry but also attitudes. Attitudes that go hand in hand with the type of thinking and behavior and rationalizations that an actual cuckold would exhibit.

In case this isn't a shitpost, you don't. Jealousy is not a higher order mental process. You can control your behavior when feeling it but trying to manipulate it selectively like this is impossible, you will end up turning yourself into an unironic cuck.
The male jealousy response exists for a very good evolutionary purpose. Only mental illness like being a cuckold can seem to make it go away in other people

>>14794130
Sounds like you've never had the displeasure of knowing a cuck irl.

>>14794181
Even with a more generous modern redefinition of it being something like "tolerating someone else taking away something you enjoy so that you can't have it", it's still not passing muster.
OP (and anyone defending his parasocial attitude) are not being 'cucked' by m*le chuubas actually interacting with their waifus (having conversations, playing games together, etc.) because it's not something they ever had. You can't be cucked out of a thing that doesn't exist. They've just inflated the 'significance' of their passive watching of the girls doing shit as them 'interacting' with them, and I'd even go so far as to say this is even worse because now you're adding in an element of unironic schizo fantasizing.

Don't get over it. Tell your oshi that you are dropping them because of their promiscuous behavior and move on to a different girl. You shouldn't be forced to change your behavior to accept their flaw. If they aren't loyal, then you shouldn't be either.

>>14794003
>Before women came about, what were you doing? What were the things that interested you?
Mindlessly browsing the internet the whole day, eating, sleeping, ignoring people. Got into online arguments just to argue about things but I didn't care. crying a lot. tried to sleep as much as possible. That was life for about 5 yeara

>>14794296
If you don't have a natural envy/jealousy/bitterness about another male waltzing in and schmoozing/having a good time with a female you desire/admire, you're a cuck. You are also a bluepilled faggot who doesn't realize that 99.9% of all male and female interactions cannot possibly ever be entirely platonic. Males and females simply being friends with no ulterior motive (usually on the male's part) is basically impossible if not incredibly improbable.

tl;dr mustar this dick you cucked faggot, quit trying to make the OP spineless like you

>>14794296
You're retarded if you think you can redefine the modern term by yourself. It's cucked because being a cuck is a person that doesn't display mate guarding behavior and mate guarding behavior is an an intrinsic way of thinking about women, whether or not they're "yours" or not. It's about attitude, not circumstances.

>>14794435
>>14794376
They're never gonna fuck you. You're never gonna meet them.
Meds. Now.

>>14774594
>I have strong feelings for many female vtubers
I mean this genuinely, you need to get over this. Parasocial relationships will ruin you. I’d heavily recommend taking a break from vtubers in general (or at least lower your watch time) for a while, just to reset yourself and remind yourself of why you are here to begin with.

Just watch someone who will never publicly interact with a male. Like Lamy for example. It sounds like Lamy would be perfect for you.

>>14794435
This is actually some incel shit thinking. I have several female friends who I have absolutely 0 intention of fucking, and wouldn’t do so if they asked. You need to get some help bro.

>>14794504
What is the point of this post when I just said that jealousy is not something you can actively turn off. Only control how you act on it.

>>14774594
Theray.

>>14776584
>just werk out bro
Guy with hammer: Hey, every problem looks like a nail!

>>14776584
You don't have the money or the access. Your muscles mean nothing just like the rest of this shit existence.

>>14794853
Then they are not attractive to you

>>14774594
>watching vtubers that interact with males
entirely your fault

>>14774594
By channeling it into your lifts brah.

>>14794853
Nobody cares about your ugly friends

>>14787395
So you’ve identified the problem, how do you fix it?

>>14795228
You sound fat. Have another donut

>>14775885
If you can get a girlfriend, you can do almost anything if you are willing to put in the effort. I am /fit/ and make 6 figures & still can't find a gf even though getting a gf is the only reason I started lifting or cared about my career/making $ in the 1st place.

>>14801032
That's the neat thing, you don't.

>>14801417
Have you tried not jerking off to anime girls as a hobby

>have the same problem but genders reversed
I want to like the nijimales but I don't want to get invested in guys if I have to sit through watching the girls they'll be collabing with flirt with them and act horny on twitter, I don't mind nijiJP mixed gender collabs because they're usually good at not crossing the line but half of the nijien girls act like utter skanks and I don't trust them, no offense.

>>14804057
>have the same problem but genders reversed
But there's no such thing as a femcel.

>>14804171
I'm not a femcel I'm just a slightly self-aware schizo

>>14804171
There definitely is such a thing.

>>14804171
Have you never met a Japanese woman before?

>>14774594
Just don't watch the streams bro. wdym?

reading this thread has made me have some self realizations, I'm heading for exactly where OP is if it wasn't for college social obligations. im not gonna lie anons, watching vtubers and shitposting with you guys has become my favorite thing to do. i have no real aspirations and im kinda lost bros

>>14804171
Most fujos are either single young girls or crazy cat women. Try again.

>>14806067
I think you just need more to do besides vtubers and shitposting. For me, I keep my watching medicated by spending my off time coding and a little gaming

>>14804171
You have the same mindset of a radical feminist, there is other people with problems karen kun

>>14801032
Just do small things, have a walk everyday or try to control your environment, like keeping your home somewhat clean. Also, try to have an stable sleep schedule

>>14806431
it's kinda hard for me to do. Over the year and a half ive watched thousands of hours of vtubers and about 1/2 of my sub box is vtuber related. probably gonna just unsub from clippers and watch streams. ill never give up 4chan probably. I've been here since I was 15 and like I said in my past post I'm in college now. You really are here forever

>>14775276
>take your meds
God this meme is getting old now

>>14801417
you're just ugly m8, no amount of muscle can fix that.

>>14776980
>>14777296
>>14775276
Wow, you sure showed them.

>>14807231
You don't have to give up anything, it's all about moderation. And yeah it won't be easy, we all have to curate our own lives. Good luck

>>14795481
I didn’t say they are unattractive, just that I don’t have feelings for them. Don’t ascribe how I feel or should feel like I’m a math problem.

>>14799805
#1- The point was men and women being friends, not their attractiveness. Some bullshit made up logic about platonic friends not being possible.
#2- Fuck off faggot

>>14794376
>You are also a bluepilled faggot who doesn't realize that 99.9% of all male and female interactions cannot possibly ever be entirely platonic. Males and females simply being friends with no ulterior motive (usually on the male's part) is basically impossible if not incredibly improbable.
This isn’t a real statistic, you just pulled it out of your gaping ass. This would first of all imply that 99.99% of all males / females are sexually attracted to one another. The reality is that even a conventionally attractive male or female isn’t universally attractive. Each individual person has certain specific mental and physical traits they are looking for in a partner. Only coomer losers make claims like this, because you’re so sexually deprived you’d be desperate enough for any drop of pussy no matter where you find it.

>>14804171
False, who do you think NijiEN wave 4 appeals to?

>>14809469
>Don’t ascribe how I feel or should feel like I’m a math problem.
You sound like a woman.

>>14813867
>Only coomer losers make claims like this, because you’re so sexually deprived you’d be desperate enough for any drop of pussy no matter where you find it.
I'm now 100% sure >>14809469 (You) are a woman now

>>14823319
>Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a roastie
Kys

>>14776924
holysh-t , what in the entire solar system is (1) a thing called [parasocial responding] // ?????????? is that like parachutes that respond too much or some sh-t, you should consider sucking my pinkee

>>14823319
I’m nta you dumb faggot, and I’ve also got a heavier set of balls than your virgin pre-pubescent dick ever will.

>>14824014
>pre-pubescent
How is this an insult, I can just double check my birth year

>>14775657
Nah, it's dedication. If she's not similar to your oshi why bother?

>>14776584
I'm exactly like OP except I lift 6 times a week in my home gym. Lifting is good, but it won't et you a gf or fix any of your life's problems.

>>14779237
None of this is possible if you've already raduated college. College graduation is the finish line for getting your social life together.

>>14823516
i was gonna type out a long response about why i said that specifically instead of just saying parasociality but your post is amazing so whatever i suck your pinkee

>>14774594
Focus on wanting them to be happy and successful, whatever it takes, even if they don't know you exist, even if they outright hate you, you're not in it for recognition, just their happiness.

>>14774594
There is no real solution. People will just tell you to take your meds or kill yourself because that's all you can do. You are too mentally fucked at this point to become normal.

>>14827375
But this is literally cuck logic
Unironically word for word, and I don't mean 4chan cuck. I mean this is exactly how cuckolds justify their abomination of a life

>>14824186
It’s not a shot at your age, it’s a shot at your underdeveloped penis

>>14804057
Based.

>>14830683
But I'm not insecure about my penis size either

Ok now THIS >>14827375 is actual cuckoldry

>>14830836
No, you just have autism. If you can't understand the big idea here then you are hopeless.

>>14775534
LMAO I couldn't have said it better!

>>14794100
LMAO SEETHE AND COPE INCEL.

>>14830945
Anon if what you're saying is, and I really want to hammer this home because people on /vt/ use this word without meaning it literally, ACTUALLY what unironic cuckolds who discuss and defend the fetish online say as a justification and the source for their feelings and fetish
You cannot handwave that shit anon, you just can't