/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Just passed IRyS.

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14436731
Who?

Cyberlive 2view agency debut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5rUiM6ySfo

How would this thread react if Youtube inplemented a "host" function similar to the one Twitch has?
Imagine Noel hosting Flare after a 100k outfit reveal stream for example.
The funnel schizo meltdown would be legendary.

Who would win?
Second most subbed Holo shiny hunting
or
an FPS gamerlion and a drunk GFE elf

Mori 9.2k and mumei 9.3k nice.

>Koyori getting 5k
She should have farmed more gachi on twitter, oh wait...

What does pink coyote even do? Start doing blowjob member ASMR? Hardcore GFE? Leach off of her senpai? On what level was she seething about getting bonked?

>>14436272
Agreed on all points.
One other issue is that EN right now has, outside of Mumei, completely not touched the MC server in ages, and it fucks their numbers. The problem is, if people aren't playing, other members are less inclined to jump on, which just makes it harder to get other people on etc.
Another point, what's even a buff game for EN viewers besides MC? GTA I guess?

>>14437042
Stop restarting loops.
Anyhow I hope Kiara gets at least 60k.

>>14437013
aren't they implementing raid function? at least that's what i heard on the streets

>>14436731
Indies rising.

>>14437091
how is that nice? not even enough to get into the chart

There's a male EN indie, using a male avatar, that has over 1k over on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/Kenji

>>14437111
Do you even know what she's streaming right now anon?

>>14436840
Was on top of the sub growth charts on userlocal.jp for a while until HoloX showed up. Chloe was projected to pass him around the time he got to Hoshikawa and Mel, but they started to slow down, and the sub became 100k and is still increasing. He got scrubbed from the rankings somewhere between passing Sasaki and passing Himawari. Janny whale was too scared of him, so she had him removed.

>>14437148
Halo should be one, if Ame doesn't ragequit.

>>14437185
If she keeps being unlucky, she will.

>>14437154
Oh really? Should be interesting then.
Unfortunately I can see a lot of chats beeing shit up by the raid tourists

>>14437042
at least wait 4 hours

>>14436840
A supposed ES Vtuber but only uploads shorts on the channel

>>14437235
Oh, a card game. Numbers poison. Still, I think getting bonked really hurt her early growth. I've been observing her twitter behavior a bit and she is kinda putting in some work. She also openly courts gachikoi, like everyone but Iroha does in gen 6.

>>14436731
Will Hololive or Nijisanji be the first to create a Spanish branch?

>>14437111
She streamed this game before and got these numbers and then her numbers went back up after, I would not worry.

>>14437368
Nothing official yet, but there's this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpUgJeBRfLA

>>14437363
She really needs to stream a buff game at some point. Her streams are killing her growth.

Missed the live stream, just finished the VOD

What did Ame's reveal peak at?

>>14437148
En just need better content. Mumei chatting stream got 17k, by the way subaru doing that got 20k, just chatting about shit that happen in her life. They need to stream regularly and come up stream that ppl want to watch. Mori copy fbk does wonder right now.

>>14437642
74.5k

>>14437547
Reimu needs a better model. She'd be a 4 digit liver with them.
>>14437608
She has such hag tastes. She's aiming for an older audience. Her morning streams have been nice to watch but I feel like the numbers will go down.

>>14437658
What EN lacks is someone like Mio who can organize gameshows/events.

>>14437368
Not profitable

>>14437296
apparently it's been around for a year. at least to redirect to premiers. dunno if it works for an ongoing stream.
https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/grab-front-row-seat-next-premiere-2/
like all yt features, it's probably on a slow rollout. haven't seen any chuubas use it for music releases. then again, most jp chuubas are real behind on yt features. the most advanced i've seen are some vsingers finally started using the preview function for song premier.

A slow day for Pekora. 15k 20 minutes in

Who the fuck thought playing some long ass niche card based RPG would be a good stream for their debut month

>>14437926
Her pokemon peak takes 1 hour to reach for some reason. Compared to her normal weekday/weekend peaks.

>>14437834
It will be like herding cats. Cover targeted talents that are soft in the head and useless managers.

>>14437947
kronii level genius with her 12 minutes and frost punk opener streams

>>14436731
Does this count as a convert? His main channel is smaller than the vtuber sub channel that uploads shorts.

>>14437321
That channel is his 3rd channel, his Live2D still appears on the beginning and end of his shorts. His Live2D gets more screentime on his main channel, but that one has way less subs and views.

>>14437368
That idea is not profitable at all. ESP viewers don't donate as much as other gachikois. They are also extremely fickle. It's not that big of an audience and in the end, you'll still have the vtubers appealing to an English/JP audience.

>>14437989
I think people are getting sick of Pokémon. It’s a slow game and like 20 china’s have been playing it for 3 weeks.

I think they gotta move on to some new games soon.
And I love Subaru but how many months is she gonna play Yakuza? She needs a new game too lol. Shuba!

>>14437926
She already beat the gym there is nothing esle to do outside catching some legendaries or battling.

>>14438108
I think that's why she's utilizing weekend morning to do these kind of streaming.

Why should Cover ever create a branch that's not JP or EN? Just fold it into the EN branches and they would not only appeal to designated regions anyways but they won't have to suffer the debuff (like HoloID).
If they're ever going to do HoloKR just hire bilinguals and throw them into HoloEN for maximum efficiency.

pekora has reclined her numbers down to aquas level to continue the rivalry

>>14438108
I mean this is pretty much just filler Pekora stream this weak
Her new weekend game got delayed to next week. Seriously why is everything Peko wanted to do got delayed?

>Hal mentioned Same chan
https://youtu.be/Gwe2wn7M9_o

>>14438058
Hard to define what a convert is when Nyanners and Kson are still ranked in the same group as non-converts, while converts that make a new channel for their VTuber stuff aren't counted sometimes.

>>14437989
I think people are getting sick of Pokémon. It’s a slow game and like 20 chuubas have been playing it for 3 weeks.

I think they gotta move on to some new games soon.
And I love Subaru but how many months is she gonna play Yakuza? She needs a new game too lol. Shuba!

Forgot to mention this, but Kanae streamed to 9k people on twitch for Valorant this morning, even more than his morning YT valorant stream

>>14438036
Didn't frostpunk get good numbers for her debut month? I recall people getting really excited that we'd finally have an svt Holo

>>14438187
Well but Aqua have to stream first to have som kind of rivalry going on

>>14438187
Kek

>>14438196
https://youtu.be/IzREt2t4HBI
Someone already posted the same clip but in nip yesterday

>>14438248
the numbers reclined real hard. even before her "break"

>>14437042
Anon, this hour is pretty bad for NA and EU

>>14437368
Niji more likely hire Spanish speakers for EN. Holo 100% going for Korean branch

>>14438332
And its good for jp?

>>14438332
ENsharts, please stop coping. It's embarrassing at this point. Just admit that EN is weak as fuck compared to JP at anything besides subs.

>>14438196
His voice should be sweet and a little effeminate with that model. He talks like some random bloke. That old looking dude in Nijisanji, Miamoto, just sounds like a random bloke. Most male vtubers sound like random dudes.

>>14438178
People tend to be super delusional when it comes to the idea of other branches. Hell, I wouldn't even take that risk, since EN has the most oddest schedules. Getting an ESP/bilingual vtuber will only throw them into the same fighting pit as the OG ENs.

>>14438332
jfc the cope

>>14438231
I never like the Pokemon arc
Boring af game to watch (because it's a literal kid game). There's no substance, bossfights are a joke
The holos only picked it up because it's that easy to get into and are the most inoffensive game possible

>>14438248
>Didn't frostpunk get good numbers for her debut month?
is debut month
is like expectin chloe, la+, and iroha to keep getting 20k on valorant, undertale, and rfa
they are bound to drop down. Tourist will leave and numbers will go back to normal with 20-30k but with the total ccv increased a little thanks to the new girls.

>>14437848
But they have ID

>>14438332
She's losing to Mumei though

>>14437834
Ame could do that, but putting more work on her it's a bit too much

>>14438242
Kanae got an 18% drop after the youtube cull kicked in IIRC so it isn't surprising he might do better on twitch.

Why are some people here sudden so angry about HoloEN? Compare to ENvtuber industry, HoloEN is still at the 1% top while on the whole streaming industry, they are at 10% top. Are they mad because they're jealous 2views?

>>14438528
But it brings good numbers. That means alot of fan or tourist alike enjoy pokemon stream.

>>14438607
can't beat them, drag 'em

>>14438553
How do you know ID us not profitable?

>>14438607
As always, it's because /jp/

>>14438625
Of course they are because as I said
>Because it's that easy to get into and are the most inoffensive games possible

Can someone post Mori and Mumei streams Kek>>14438559

Mori 10K, I told you she is "unlucky".

>>14438553
And how is that working for them? Yes, they have bigger numbers than Niji, but they aren't titans.

>>14438178
I would just standarize a JP, an EN, an ES branch, and well you have the ID branch too, but never knew why. but wouldn't make more experiments like Niji did with India

>>14438209
Kson and Nyanners are both listed in the 転生組 ranking though (and Sen) by UserLocal, which I assume it's the Japanese saying for "convert"? ChuyMineVt is also in the convert ranking but not in the born-vtubers ranking.

>>14438332
?
It's 8pm/11pm for NA, which is not 'a bad time' for NA. It is however, a pretty bad hour for EU.

>>14438559
Have we reached the point in this thread where we just straight up lie about numbers?

>>14438187
She's leaving some place for the newbies, she'll come back much stronger next week.

I am starting to learn the name of Pekora's member by heart because they are always there every stream

>>14438607
They do well but you can't ignore the recline.

>>14438559
Most shitposter like this anon is just a threadwatcher right?

>>14438607
They're either 2views or 2view f̶a̶n̶s̶ groomers

>>14438774
I am hyping for her new weekend stream next week. Wonder what kind of game she will play
Nousagis expecting some action games in Pekora thread

Mori is Botan-tier now

>>14438784
They're s9o dedicated to her. Makes me wonder why Pekora has few gachikoi.

>>14438755
EU doesn't watch vtubers anyway

What happened to ame SC?

>>14438734
India branch was a failure. And KR branch is essentially a failure seeing as they have to speak EN or JP all the time if they want views or to collab.

The truth is that most of the audience and the money is in Japan and English speaking nations. And any other modern countries typically teach a certain level of English themselves.

>>14438734
There is no need for an ES branch. ID gets enough hate as is for their numbers. An ES branch will literally be a graveyard for subs.

>>14438855
She's top 3 in total SC just below rushia and Coco anon.

>>14438766
>>14438701
That was dumb of me.

>>14438836
Mori is lucky to consistenly be a botan tier

>>14438855
They never SC during the stream
They either do it at the start of the stream or at the end. Probably to avoid interrupting her game, well except for a few rare cases

>>14438896
And this is why you're not calling the shots

>>14438895
>The truth is that most of the audience and the money is in Japan and English speaking nations. And any other modern countries typically teach a certain level of English themselves.

Exactly this. Nimu might have high numbers, but she can't outearn anyone for shit and her view numbers are trash for the amount of subs she has... In the end, an ES branch is just an EN branch with flavour.

>>14438740
Kson and Nyanners are also listed in the main rankings along with the other VTubers even though their channels existed before they converted. Maybe they just get exemptions because of their associations with VTuber companies? Although Pmaru doesn't. It's pretty inconsistent.

>>14438928
Believe me, whenever Pekora end her stream into SC reading session, you will always see a flood of SC just to thank her for the stream, nothing fancy

Anyone else notice that clippers have been feasting like starved animals since HoloX debuted?

>>14438996
Pmaru isn't on the list because she herself doesn't consider her a vtuber, so they removed her to respect her wishes.

>>14438927
I just hope she would not suddenly destroy her incline, she's been inclining since Sep-Oct in CCV alone

>>14439041
i just keep seeing the clips mostly from the first week streams not so much the latest one.

>>14438895
Correction, nijiKR is a failure. HoloKR, if they ever get around to making it, will make absolute gangbusters

>>14439041
That happens with every new gen.

>>14437236
*and the sub gap became

>>14438871
Hey, I'm here waking up at 4:30Am to watch Pekora, EU Vtubers viewers exist.

>>14438896
The only thing about an ES branch is that they have a pretty underdeveloped market, yeah you have a few indies doing well but its pretty much uncertain how much engagement they would have, EN started very strong and now it's pretty unstable. Honestly I wouldn't be worried about superchats, there are a lot of ways to make profit with streaming and that's a thing a lot of anons here forget

>>14436700

HoloX Debut buff is quickly wearing off.

Will be interesting to see if the rest of the new gen follow the same path.

>>14438986
Go cry me a river and come back with actual numbers. A KR branch will happen before an ES branch. They have more chances to succeed than try to flirt with countries that have volatile currencies.

>>14439033
They do so at every single stream, and they also donate a bunch of money whenever she reaches an additional 10k milestone subs.

>>14439198
>EN started very strong and now it's pretty unstable
Anon, that's the numberrot talking

>>14438993
Nimu is shit anyways, and most of her fanbase are normie tourists now, they don't have any loyalty and that's obvious

went to sleep before Chickens outfit reveal. just checked the views and jesus fucking christ what happened? do i even want to know what that silent therapy stream was she did right after?

>>14439282
Yeah but my point is they seem to only SC when they are sure that it won't bother her

>From 75k to 20k
Holy decline
You know why ENschizo is super mad right now

>>14439316
Her PC crashed hard and youtube fucked her up, so it was postponed until tomorrow

>>14439245
That I don't disagree, but not expanding to es because /vt/ will shit on them for the numbers is peak retardation

>>14439198
10k range is relatively healthy. You should be concerned when they drop to 7k or something or when NijiEN is starting to actually catch up.

>>14439218
Dude…. Iroha had 20k viewers just for ring fit adventure earlier. HoloX is doing great by all measures.

>>14439371
>20k
18k actually lier

>>14439363
I mean shit vshojo keeps getting brought up as a comparison but vshojo literally only have three people who can regularly hit 10k and the other five are lucky if they can break 4k

>>14439359
oh thanks god.
thanks for the info anon

>>14438196
I can't read zhang but those comments feel way more warm and pleasing than the JP comments I can read on the other clip. Is the vtubing culture less of a shit show? Maybe it's because I used google TL for the chinese and my own eyes for the japanese.

>>14439405
>lier
Liar.

>>14439358
Entering the retirement arc
Number does not matter to her anymore

>>14438895
gooks actually donates. heres chloe SC stream, they are a few hundred behind USD.

>$ USD 77 1423.88 161,620円 $1,425.41
>WON KRW 98 1592600 153,727円 $1,355.80

>>14439405
>>14439371

So even with debut buff and a lewd noises game she doesn't match a bog standard morning stream of pekora and subaru.

>>14438607
It's mostly because holox is being successful, everyone that got mad that myth outshined gen 5 (and EN 2views) is taking ''revenge''

>>14439698
How many times do we need to go through this? Iroha is actually fit and doesn't pant that much, the coomer buff is mostly lost.

>>14439718
HoloX doesn't even dab that hard on Council and Myth.

>>14439198
Nijisanji tried testing the waters with Reimu. Her engagement as a bilingual isn't that fantastic. I do think it could have been more if she hadn't shied away from ES streams during her debut week.

>>14439361
WACTOR has only 3 streamers over 100k subscribers. Their VODs are plain, ol' bad. Hana will be the fourth WACTOR to reach 100k soon and she flounders in views. Are they successful for 2views? I guess. Will they be able to succeed in Niji/Holo ES branch? Not really unless they lean into JP or English. They won't be bringing in new subs, because the ES market is full of tourists. They'd have to rely heavily on their brand to even carry them to a point the algo keeps suggesting them.

Niji and Holo need to grow their established markets first, before throwing themselves into a volatile, potentially smaller market than EN.

>>14439698
Try watching streams before posting.

>>14439799
They do, on Council.
While Myth was a lightning caught in a bottle.

Pebola is reclining...

>>14439718
holox is already declining hard LMAO

>>14439571
Why are kaigai niki so cheap? A measly $1423? After she did a whole English karaoke stream for you?

>>14439863
How many nicknames does Pekora have?

>>14439891
Will we see a freefall like this again?

>>14439952
Always have been

>>14438836
That's a pretty big improvement for her.

>>14439799
>that hard on Council

>>14440014
Yes we will see a huge drop from November to December

>>14439891
not as bad as Council though

>>14440014
>IRyS and Council are bungee jumpers

>>14439310
Exactly. You'll get a bunch of tourists that'll btfo because ES isn't as full of weebs as there is in EN. Most of the ES that are into Nijo/Holo already have their designated waifus in those companies.

>>14439571
Why do taiwan and honk Kong have so many weebs
They are chinks too they must hate japan too

>>14440014
Edengumi...

>>14440116
Louie...

>>14440116
Why does Lui have so many views on her channel?

>>14440122
>ES isn't as full of weebs
Are you serious?

23k and rising
Not bad Peko. Her passive pull is still there

>>14440329
Shorts. Her shorts are the best. She also added subs to them.

>>14440329
She's releasing a short every day.

>>14440340
They prefer DBZ to waifus.

>>14440329
She has the most streams I think at 20 streams. She's a hardworker so I hope she finds her niche

24k peak it seem
I think we can wrap it up for Peko today

>>14440340
There isn't. Not enough to carry a vtubing market by itself. Are there many weebs? Yes. Those who are interested in vtubers are already subscribed or following established girls. They won't budge and they'll definitely not watch someone speak ES for hours.

>>14439800
Wactor was really a small company, getting into 100k subs and having between 500-2000 viewers is a miracle for them. The problem with tourists is the one I told before, having an underdeveloped market since they don't have any other source of watching vtubers in their own language most of them might not knowing the culture very well. The real problem in my opinion is that indies are not even trying and Nimu bringing tourists from the streamers are not helping in anything. Honestly I see the potential but if nobody will step to the front then there is nothing to do.

>>14440495
Fucking Pekora. At this rate we'll lose the gold to HoloEN(honorary nijisanji)

>>14440390
Exactly this. People who shill the ES branch bs idea don't actually know how ES viewers work.

>>14440571
She seem a lot more relaxed this month, probably because all eyes are on HoloX now and not her. Plus she probably know she can't compete against them anyway so why try?
Even her choices of game seem "relaxing" if that mean anything

>>14440591
What if someone decides to form a shonen-themed VTuber group?

HoloEN 2021 SC where?

Who would win the gold today?

>>14440158
Chink is a mindset not a race

>>14440570
Like I said before, WACTOR is successful from a 2view perspective. However, ES culture is very different when it comes to viewing habits. It's not just one culture. It's an amalgamation of a lot of things, that most definitely won't help an established brand.

If anything we'll end up with the Univision equivalent of ES Vtubers in Niji or Hololive.

>>14440767
I'm stealing this idea.

>>14440767
Honestly, a holostars would ironically work better for them because they are pretty much distanced from the GFE, a bro would work for them.
Source: My own experience with youtubers

If the Spanish speaking market is worthless, why do some of the biggest streamers and youtubers on Earth belong there?

>>14440818
Does Chloe have a stream today? She probably will take the gold
I expect Chloe to take all the gold this month

Man I remember when coco did a Spanish learning stream and half the board became espanol for an hour. There's definitely potential there

>>14440905
Because the biggest streamers and youtubers on Earth that belong there aren't using anime avatars??? They are also selling themselves and their stories of success.

>>14440905
Because they think that traditional superchats means everything for them.

>>14440891
I already had a thought about if Yagoo made a Holostars VR sports team, and maybe if other companies/indie groups did the same. Seems like something that would get people into watching male VTubers while keeping the virtual theme.

ES might be important not in SCs or merch, it will be if they want name recognition to be so deep hololive is truly international. Raw numbers are never bad. Cover's designs are on a multimedia empire, maybe the vtubing vector might not get them but maybe another vector can.

I want to see people here break containment and say all this reclining shit to HoloEN's faces.

>>14441024
Stop glowing SEAnig.

>>14438607
Because you gaylords reply. He moved from shitting on Kuzuha to shitting on HoloEN

>>14441024
Shut up, ENSchizo. No one is doing that.

>>14440571
There is no way she can beat Ame's outfit stream unless she pulls a PekoMiko collab out of nowhere.

>>14440905
The largest groups of top YouTube channels nowadays are Indian and Russian.

Reminder that 30% of the US is spic and 13%, they have the 2nd largest Spanish speaking population behind Mexico of them speak Spanish. Holo and Niji are stupid as hell to not make an ES branch at this point Just look at Nimu's subs and viewers if you think the market isn't there.

>>14441016
I think Cover's expansion strategy does have its merits. HoloAlt might be small right now, but if they can do everything in-house, a vtuber's life span might increase exponentially. I think if everyone listens to these 4chan "experts", there will be no innovation in the world.

>>14441200
>13% of them speak Spanish
Fix'd

>>14441200
shut up anon
down ruin it

>>14441200
Nimu got her subs from cannibalizing streamers and making bait videos. Please tell me how that'll work for streaming? Fucking delusional.

>>14441200
And? You think that hololive can just release some vtubers and big dick their way to the top in spannish just because they're hololive? It's risky.

>>14441024
>SEAmonkey primetime

>>14440993
Also I forgot how easy is to get sponsor lol. KFC_ES was in Subaru's twitter Space
https://youtu.be/5woDIdsMjDU

>>14441130
Indians use bots and have their own "Indweeb" culture while Russians already love Hololive. No need to expand in those places.

>>14441200
this is why I love ID branch. stupid beaners (both of the continental and jungle island varieties) can't stop malding over it.

>>14440818
Ame.

>>14441302
Why not? I mean, it would be fun to see how they would handle this situation. It's not even harassmen since it is taken from well researched data.

>>14440948
Undertale later. Not expecting anything special - 20-26k

>>14441311
I can't imagine the gloating if Hololive landed a KFC Japan sponsorship/collab.
>>14441100
I don't think a PekoMiko offcolab could get 75k.

>>14441409
15k.. But maybe 20k for her initial peak

>>14441430
Damn the power of PekoMiko really fade over time eh
Feel like even PekoMari is stronger these day

>>14441024
In your dream mad chink LMAO
Does anyone says shit to HoloID's midget numbers?

>>14441430
That PekoMiko Collab will surely never happen again but if it did, it would most certainly reach 100k easily, don't underestimate that duo.

>>14441499
Nah, they're instantly killed off by Reine's mafia family.

>>14441540
Nothing can stop that duo except the "If"

>>14441499
A lot actually, but ID girls took them and spit them back to those trolls. Never mess with SEA women. They are spicy as fuck, that's why white guys love to marry SEA women.

>>14441499
And also because they are literally at the top of the totem pole in Indonesia, saying shit about them is like insulting your state champion because they aren't a national champion

>>14441430
KFC japan seems to be more traditional, the ES CM tried to ping him because someone drew a cursed Colonel Sanders and Kiara but they didn't replied.
KFC_ES is based in this type of things ngl

>>14441499
>HoloID
>Midget
>Still MOG nijien

>>14441400
>SEA monkey or ESL?
Why not try it yourself? Oh can you afford it though? Kek

Speaking of data, do you think Cover has a more accurate viewership data? I feel like they can at least come to YT Japan and ask for more legit data since they are a media business instead of some rando on the internet who would collect data on 3rd party sites.

>>14441301
Everything worth doing is risky, if hololive can successfully expand into the es market they would secure their status once and for all as a cultural phenomenon, and that's not mentioning the money and sponsorships

This is a pretty bloody timeslot for a Saturday afternoon.

>>14441200
>13% speak Spanish
Yeah, but those arn't the ones watching Hololive. That's like the tia and abuelita who still retain the language. The kids don't use Spanish hardly at all

t. Houston teacher who teaches in a district with 90% Latino students

>>14441756
Of course I can, why can't I?

>>14441915
Abuelita come come it's time to watch La Puta Coneja

Yo wtf Pekora got a new peak
Lmao this fucking rabbit always exceed my expectation

>>14441540
As long as Miko promises not to stick things into Pekora's butthole I'm sure things will work out.

>>14441803
Nah. Leave that to Niji. They take those type of risks and don't care about losing.

>28k
Yes Pekora keep pushing those numbers. Let me see your powerlevel when you actually try

Consider this, the only reason wactor is even talked about in this place is because they have managed to successfully expand into the Spanish market. There's no reason to suspect that hololive would not be able to do the same

It's kind of fun to observe the race between Pekora and Subaru. Whenever Pekora struggles capturing a legendary her number goes up, and yet Subaru somehow manages to catch up in some way. Now there is a 3k diff but Subaru might catch up to her once again later on.

>>14442146
Considering how things are going for niji these past year I think their risk taking days are behind them.

>>14442242
How did the Peko-Shuba rivalry even happen anyway?
It seem like most of Pekora popular relationship are rivalry

>>14442262
They're tanking the DLsite debacle well, I haven't seen seethe about it for a while. HoloEN is still a success. Virtual Real isn't theirs. NijiKR is it's own thing. Everything is fine, Anycolor is fine. Nothing bad is happening.

>>14442242
>>14442330

>>14442330
Like most things hololive, in Minecraft

>>14442338
>There is no war at Ba Sing Se

>>14442197
>Catching legendary pokemon
>Can't even break 30k
Pekobros...how do we cope?

>>14442338
But what about yumeographia?

>>14442330
Didn't that start with Pekora throwing potions on Subaru and Kusogaki?
I've started watching Pekora since early September but from all the archives that I watched, I don't remember anything happening between them both until late September (the 20th I think when she pranked Subaru and Shion). Then arrived Shubangelion and Pekodam etc...

>>14442469
Accurate representation of their interactions.

>>14442207
Just because one thing is spoken here doesn't make it a good example for data. ES isn't just one country. It's many countries with different laws and regulations. If they only open the process in the US, you'll only be getting bilinguals that have no fucking idea about their roots nor language. You'll end up with Spicy ENs.

>>14442510
There are many way but best that we stay silent
Don't want to make Pekora looking even worse in other people eyes now do we?

>>14442547
(Me) September 2020*

>>14442535
A bad idea that should have been cut earlier. It was the right decision to close it down.

nijisanji now has a damage-control intern?

>>14442510
FubuKing mogs Pekora so hard these days

>>14442651
And people like you are why we don't have a Holodeck yet.

>>14441793
Of course.

>>14442880
We'll see once she finally catches her shiny Koiking, Pekora will surpass her once again.

Looks like en got their new costume buff, good number for en tonight. I hope they don't fuck it up by taking breaks......

>>14442880
FBK deserve much more than that rabbit whore

>>14442880
A surprise really. I mean if someone travelled back in time 1 month and tell you Pekora would be mogged easily in December, would you believe it?

Damn Pekora anti showing up again. Make me curious why do people even hate Pekora, she's so inoffensive

>>14442880
True pillar of Hololive

>>14443584
They're jealous, nothing more, nothing less.

>>14443584
seeing popular people reminds them of when they were bulied at school

>>14443641
The one who organize all these streams that ovelap HoloX

Mumei has gotten better SCs as of late. Has she finally decided so start using her position to make money? She's still an SC midget($60k in 3 months) but it isn't as bad as before.

>>14443873
>$60k in 3 months

ES this ES that, why not hololive taiwan?

>>14442874
Have you seen the threads yesterday during the whole dlsite thing?

>>14443873
Nah, 43k+ yen for this stream is not an indication of incline incoming anytime soon

>>14443938
Because of China

>>14443938
Do you really want China to boot them off from the Internet

Because i'm pretty sure it won't be those nerdy chinks, but the government will also intervene

>>14444292
that's good, escalate the destruction of China

4

>>14443938
Zhangs will riot Hololive HQ for real anon...

>>14443873
She started doing SC readings at the end of streams again a couple of weeks ago, and she started intentionally leaving SCs on during the readings yesterday. On top of that, she’s turned it into an impromptu zatsudan while screwing around with autotune, which helps with viewer retention. I guess it’s finally starting to have an effect.

>HoloX is doing so much better than Counci...

>>14444489
They are. Lui is the weakest link of HoloX compare to weakest link of Council Sana

>>14444489
She is in 10k now. Do a better bait Councilfag

>>14444489
>>14444542
Mom, Dad, please stop fighting

>>14444489
Anon… Iroha had like 20k watching her play Ring Fit Adventure earlier.

https://youtu.be/0lt5wheHTdw
She's good

>>14442962
i would put that more into more appealing content and timeslot.


Also rrat and Irys are gonna do a meme review with alcohol on jp prime time it might pick some funneling from matsuri concert. but that slot is too contested.

>>14444489
HoloX just need to wait until collab ban over and farm viewers with Minecraft

>>14444489
>Chole and La+
Success
>Samurai
Doing great maybe
>Lui & Pink Cat
Failure

>>14444489
>>14444560

Council vs HoloX for the hundredth times.

Compare HoloX with Edengumi. You can't? Why not? Because they're a disgrace?

>>14444615
I mean we have 2 HoloX members at sub 10k at the moment, so I think it's fair to say that their numbers are starting to normalize at least (which genuinely is a good thing - the days of nothing but 30k+ was terrible for people's perspective on what good numbers to draw were)

>>14444787
because the point is the guy hates numbers

>>14444743
Pink Cat is doing great too.
Lui is also doing well, would do a lot better if she played more games.

Why do people keep making

Holo vs Holo

Why not compare Niji latest wave and Holo latest Gen

Come on, it's tiring.

>>14444542
Please stop, Sana is a good girl, she would have at least 50% more CCV if she's white and without the fucking dog

>>14444743
Failure by what standard?
Getting 34k on monetization stream isn't failure. And wait for her to drop weak games before you call her ccv weak.

Lui is the weakest holox but still mogs 80% of NijiJP, all of NijiEN, all of HoloID, Half of HoloEN and some of HoloJP.

>>14444873
Because they aren't real competition and there's no one else left.

Mori outfit is no longer restricted
so 1M by next week probably

>>14444036
Baby steps. She has to rebuild the SC culture after hurting it. I think she will get more than her midget $20k a month soon. I don't think she will be a monster but it will help fans engaged.

>>14444877
Ok I love her but I am trying to stay objective here. Low number is low and she is clearly the weakest in Council right now
It's fair to compare her to the lowest of HoloX

>>14445003
Maybe, but they already fucked up the real number she would get without that...

>>14445003
Really? How did they do it though?

>>14444873
Because enkeks mind broke jpsharts back in the day and then jpsharts got their payback when holox debuted and now enkeks want to get back at them.
TLDR it's retardation

>>14444919
They just debut not even 1 month and already declining really hard, retard

>>14445146
You just appeal

>>14444873
>>14444787
Because Nijisanji is getting dominated.

Their only sure win are 18&19 and yesterday but Orca took the spotlight.

Nijisanji Win:
>Nijifags act like they won a lottery and shit on holos like there's no tomorrow

Nijisanji Loses (like most of the time):
>Nijifags pit Holo vs Holo
>Nijifags acts like victims
>But some of the Nijifans are atleast silent

>>14445146
You can appeal age restrictions. All you need to do is kick up enough of a fuss on social media and for Holos that's not really an issue.

>>14444873
August
>Leos 9,617 (26)
>Lauren 6,593 (30)
>Axia 5,422 (28)
>Lain 4,732 (30)
>Oliver 3,519 (30)

December (not even half way of the month)
>Chloe 34,685 (16)
>La+ 27,137 (13)
>Iroha 25,141 (18)
>Koyori 22,699 (17)
>Lui 14,867 (18)

no point

>>14445219
This is true Anon.

Remember
Not even 1 month

>>14445176
No it's just you Nijifags trying to pit them to cope.
Nijis are getting smashed.

I even think those "ENkeks" are just you fags posing and act pathetic. We're not like you weakass nijifags
Accept Reality, Get Rekt.

>>14445186
>>14445221
Really? so either management or her fanbase appeal to it, Mori never addressed it and make a big deal out of it, I just imagine that she would be Kiara that will always address things publicly

>>14445219
Nah, yesterday they barely enjoyed their win. They were working overtime trying to spin the DLsite as anything but a blunder.

>>14445407
>We
go back

>>14445178
Numberrot has affected you fags too much.
You think they'll continue to get 98k or 59k in Karaoke? 35k in midnight talk stream? 30k for 2x a week RFA?

https://youtu.be/UK8YFUy8ALI
Not-meme review numbers?

>>14444033
>H-hololive will do it too!
>Stop being horny! Digital sales don't matter!
>They're stealing assets from Anycolor of course they should be persecuted!

>>14444990
Chocon...

>>14445597
>8am EST
>rrat and goblina
Poorly

They should just do a 4chan meme review since no one who'd get their panties in a bunch would be up at that hour. I mean IRyS already uses basedjaks for her thumbnails.

My cute hag wife, Lui, reached 10K!
Say something nice about her.

>>14445219
Kill yourself retard. There are no Niji fans in this thread. Only holobrony falseflaggers like (You).

>>14445597
>IRyS be saving them council
IRyS stop it they're not worth it, just go with Mori and release a cover with her already!!

Nijisanji doesn't exist, it's just a figment of your imagination.

>>14445773
for these threads being only full of Holofans, there sure is a lot of anti-Holo posting

>>14445737
>Second Karaoke
>Only 10k

Can any other EN clippers, be it Vshojo, Nijisanji or indies, compete against Holo clippers like Sushi, Sashimi, Vtuber Tengoku, Osekkai, Hololive moments I think about, Rizulix, Paimomi, OtakMori, Iroha and even that channel who catfishes simps?

>>14445842
With how much Holo stomps the competition they might as well not.

>>14445846
Have you been to /hlg/? It's literally a holo anti thread.

>>14445737
I like listening to her voice.

Jwu
Judging by the quality of the threat, I'd assume the reveals goes well?

>>14445773
Don't use an anonymous site if you hate getting accused all the time then.

>>14445679
The amount of salt this thread will have when these girls come into 4chan and laugh at all these pathetic losers seething on these more successful girls.

>>14445262
do council anon

>>14445872
Nope, unless one of them drops Holo and starts clipping on the same channel.

I'll still stand by my prediction that by February (Debut Buff over, Collab Ban hype over)
Their Median will be:
>Laplus = 16k (Shion tier, but more active)
>Chloe = 14k (High SCs probably below Flare or Lamy & with good CCV)
>Iroha = 10k (Ina'nis Tier)
>Koyori = 8k (Watame tier with Korone style streaming)
>Lui = 7k (Fauna tier with Botan style streaming)

>>14445975
No

>>14445955
?

>>14445597
I am a euro so these hours are actually good for me but isn't the EN branch supposed to target mainly NA audience?

What are these hours? I know that Irys, Sana and Bae live in Japan/Australia but what the fuck?

Except if they want to target the english speaking SEA audience but then what is ID there for? I honestly don't understand the hours that most EN members choose to stream. Aren't there any fucking managers to fix this shit?

>>14446010
councilkek afraid

>>14445737
hag voice so seeggsss!!!!!!!!!!

>>14446044
It's EN branch, not US branch anon
That's the problem
You now have people living in EU, US, AUS, JP timeslot
I mean, shit on them all you want, but you try to organize an event with that in mind

>>14446044
Bae and Irys have alwasy alterante between this and other slot.
A curse of living on australia and japan and trying to have a good sleeping schedule.
Also drinking at midday would be bad better to do it at night

>>14445917
chickens stream got fucked
>>14439359
Ame did ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIr7RqYQrVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIr7RqYQrVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIr7RqYQrVs

Guess Gura has another potential playmate with this game ...

>>14445999
>drops Holo
People gotta eat you know, Nijisanji doesn't put food on the table.
>>14445955
It'd be great. Absolute hilarity for weeks. Although discord vtuber antis will take it as a mandate to raid the board more than usual. At least the mods are good about cleaning up frog posts and Wojaks.

>>14445869
It's actually her 3rd karaoke in 11 days if you don't count any singing done during debut and monetization.

Leave my hag alone! She's pulling her weight.

Is EN curse the manifestation of God's will? Is he saying that HoloEN should have never been made?

>>14446152
it's only because of tarded AUS that it's hard to do, since western prime time overall is 6pm UK

>>14446260
Hopefully gura also collaps with Choco and Anya(again)

Im more convinced susan is trying to kill vtubing in general
FUCK SUSAN

>>14445601
Ha its funny because it's true

>>14446388
It's likely that lots of subs for debuts + many of those subs not actually watching the channels (either clip-only watchers or "sub to all holos" types) leads to them being misidentified as sub bots and culled.

>>14446260
Choco's incline IKZ

Full results of that contest are out now
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vF3Mj0BdzPcP1SaRYDcS3PJB70hilU6Dp0ty_Qp9kfQ
Desu they should gather up votes by singer first and then pick their best song instead of what they did

>>14446353
That, and not because of the ONE member living in fucking Europe? (Not her fault, but still)

>>14437908
Holos used it before actually, it only works on your channel but works for streams

>>14446640
Choco finally gets a devil kohai to play play DbD with. Hopefully this one stays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqNm4CnCqws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqNm4CnCqws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqNm4CnCqws

This just turned into another podcast now, with Moomer joined VC

>>14437908
Ina used it for her Tabi no Tochuu cover.

Relay numbers are always fun, getting 80~ average is probably five times the usual for most of participants
>>14440875

>>14446760
thanks anon, i'm watching wagahai and pegora while reading manga and sipping tea on my powerwall

>>14445737
Ok, even though Towa beat her numbers in karaoke today , it was unarchived so it doesn't count!!

>>14446760
why cant they just do like JP where fubuki and flare both hunt for shiny together

>>14445917
Nah you just came in during one of the dead periods between us prime time and jp prime time, threads are always chill around this time

>>14446870
DBD is not really my jam, and it's always fun to hear Calli rambling about random shits with whoever's on VC with her
They're talking about house moving (?) ...
Also, she's at 265 reset btw ...

DBD is more number poison than any fps by the way.

>>14446920
En don't plan ahead

>>14446260
Too bad solo DBD is boring. Collabs elevate the game so much since you give a fuck about who is escaping/killing and they can banter afterwards.

>>14447032
Collab ban, pls andastand

>>14446920
Anon, it's 00:00 AM for Mumei ...

>>14447032
>>14447094
they can try inter-gen, perfect number

Valorant now this... La+ i want to like you but, nah i'll go with samurai for now

>>14446967
Honestly, I much prefer things like this to be impromtu, Especially if it span over multiple eps
Makes you want to tune in to see who'll shows up

>>14447179
Welcome to seiso samurai fan club, anon....

>>14447032
>>14447152

Gura's 6 person collab unironically is the best example of this

>>14446964
DBD has the potential Gura collab buff. Having the 2 cunnies together will make numbers.

>>14447346
gura isnt a buff to anyone

>>14438871
Not to an extent that NA does but its still a sizeable amount

>>14447369
When you're making bait, at least make the shit not so obvious. You could've done so much more if you put in the extra effort and simply added the word "anymore" in the end there.

>Miko only sub 10k when pekora is streaming
truly is #2 holo choices

After lap started and subaru lost some views
miko taking time to even break 10k
Tourist probbaly already leaving which makes sense.
Total CCV will be higher than before but some holos might recline next month once number stabilize. As the new girls probbaly get some of the already exising vierwership

>>14447699
As long as total CCV increase, I'd say its okay
We don't want another NijiEN situation

YIKES
I
K
E
S

do you think people are getting tired of pokemon?

>>14447891
At least subscribe to her and drop a like, anon. For her own good.

>>14447849
i agree but people will shout RECLINEEEEEEEE anyway

>>14447527
Guras fans don't watch any other channels. The phenomenon where Gura gets half the numbers she would on her own channel is well noted by now.

>>14447891
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>14447899
I do since day 2 of when that game got released, yet I'm still watching Pekora's PokeBall only challenge.

JP bros I don't feels so good...

post niji's numbers

>>14448007
get better internet seamonkey

>>14447899
Yes. It was never even that popular to begin with. The only ones seeing an actual buff from it were doing a gimmick of some kind.

>>14447891
>Second strongest Holo they said

Don't worry anons, FBKING is to the rescue with big fat numbers soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNASKumr6j0

>>14448037
I don't want to be called a seamonkey by a seamonkey
This is holostats' problem not mine

>>14448119
okay seamonkey

>>14438076
Anyone got ESchuuba supa numbers?

>>14448007
>>14448029
NijiJP Bros I don't feel so good...

What's wrong holomutts? Your supposed to be the cream of the crop lmao and this is the best tonight hahaha

>>14448007
Holy decline of holo
Niji seems like going to fight back the rest of this month

>>14448198
this explains a lot of things about the thread situation kek

>>14448198
how we save niji, drama is not working anymore?

>>14448204
still doing a lot better than your nijimutts.

I wonder what will Nijis do against a 74.5k peak stream?

>>14448246
see >>14448198

>>14448246
>Niji seems like going to fight bac-

>>14438076
Anon scs are going to be a drop in the bucket, the real value from entering the es market is going to be the juicy ad revenue all those extra eyes would give.

>>14448276
Drama has never worked for niji, for whatever reason, whereas for hololive drama just gives them a boost.
Someone should probably look into this by the way, that's a critical part of hololive's success that rarely gets discussed around here.

>>14448367
is not that juicy if it's watching streams, there's only an ad at the very beginning

>>14448399
Yeah the drama is why HoloX is doing so well right?

>>14448399
>whereas for hololive drama just gives them a boost.
The box. People will protect the box if they circle the wagons.
>b-box schizo
We all know the box is the reason everything happens.

>>14448367
>ES cpm
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Pmaru concert

>>14448198
>be Sora
>be the face of the company
>be a sub 5k midget
Holobronies will defend this

>>14448608
Still doing better than some midgets from niji's first wave, better yet, other than Mito & maybe Chihiro, she gets better numbers.

>>14448578
PMaru needs to blow up in the West.

>>14448367
KEK
The only value in the ES market is to bait for sponsorships with big numbers.
So, FYI, people are going to be spread out today for streams to avoid overlapping Matsuri live, guess they'd rather stream earlier instead of ending up in the traffic jam post-live.

Holy shit, this Hololive clipper is seriously getting those fat numbers compared to their sub count. This shit has higher numbers than even Sushi ch.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_f_-OsPQGuM-SObRHWOgKQ

>>14448608
She still retains her face due to the company flourishing so well, unlike Mito who had her face dragged across the road thanks to her 100 sub 3k kouhais while being carried by an APEX autist

>>14448760
holy shit, what the fuck is going on with this channel?

>>14448691
Not really

>>14448691
if only sony management aren't retards...

>>14448760
Nice, thanks for introducing another holo clipper.
I just subscribed to him.

but if he starts posting Nijiclips (even if it's just 1 nijiclip for every 10 holoclip) then I'll unsubscribe and pretty sure his views will plummet since people will stop watching his posts.

>>14448800
The algorithm is doing it's thing.

>>14448649
>>14448770
>pretending Roboco and Azki don't exist
I mean yeah, it's easy to forget about them, but this is about the two company representatives, not their genmates.

>>14448691
she does sing all the new songs in both english and chinese

>>14448760
Oh, it's Panomi ch. They've been at this for a while, but I'm guessing they got algo blessed recently because I don't remember them getting that many views before.

>>14448691
She should join INNK.

>>14448578
>Holowho?????Nijiwhaaattt???? GTFO THE HEAVENLY KING IS BACK FOR HER THRONE!!!!

>>14448854
>the only one that count are the midgets
You might as well admit you're nitpicking while you're at it.
>>14448871
She should NOT. She's already doing well, why sabotage her efforts.

Mori makes little money from her music compared to everything else

>>14448869
Quite a lot of Holo clippers lately are having the best viewership in months. Are many EOPs switching to watch clips?

>>14448955
Yea, there is no reason for Pmaru to join a corp, and she should never do so, not after what happened with Sony. Let the independent stay dependent.

>>14448578
how big is this theatre?
also nice male/female audience ratio.

>>14448991
No time to watch hours long streams during the Holidays, but 10-15 minutes of clips is plenty of time to catch up on things.

>>14448991
Yeah, Covid restrictions are going away and less and less people are having the time to sit down for an entire stream, but they still want to keep up with holos so they watch clips instead.

>>14448991
could be becasue of holidays and people not having time. Who knows thealgo works in myserious ways

>>14449051
It came up a thread or two ago, 11k seating area, but unsure how it's been laid out for the stage.

>>14448955
>>14449018
What about collab with Suisei or Sora?

>>14449018
While vtubers are going global, PMaru will dominate domestic market. Once she become the "Ayumi Hamasaki" of vtuber industry, and other agencies come back with failures, PMaru will launch her own agency and finally take over the world.

A slow day for number huh. After a very rowdy week

>>14449112
she's on bilibili
she did reply to fbk on her s'il vous president cover though

>>14449051
The female is probably because she's close with すとぷり (male idol group), they are huge too after all

>>14448608
>Be mito
>started and cultivate the la cretividad culture in her group
>mogged by some recruit indie faggot into irrelevancy and change the whole company into apexfags
>Trying to be idol to stay relevant
>Mogged by yaoi pair who cant sing for shit
>Mogged by Sora and co.
>Even JKgumi turn into literall who within the company they help to incline
Kek at least Sora known by the whole fanbase as THAT senpai and her kouhai still kneels to her

>>14449112
Don't force these sorts of things. Pmaru deserves the freedom after the absolute assfucking she had to endure at Sony's hands.

Isn't the entire EN industry on a decline in general? Why are people fixated on Myth in particular when everyone in the EN vtuber market (on average) has been going down month to month since at least July?

>>14448869
He's an ID clipper, i think that HoloID orgy sleepover twitspace boosted him in algo because other clipper didn't bother to clip it.
https://youtu.be/ltmuo8luuCE