/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

we need an aspiring vtuber groomer thread

>>14406765
To my general understanding that’s what the back desk is for.

How do I put letters over black clothes on Vroid?
Maybe I've gotten bad at searching but everything I find are tutorials on how to scour booth.pm for free stuff and making hair.

>>14408786
I believe you'd just edit the texture of the clothes itself to put the text you want on it

>>14409865
I tried that but when I turn the color black in VRoid the letters just get obscured.

>>14411949
Trying DMing Golden Kenji or Picky, both are very good at vroid.

no one wants to be a vtuber anymore :(

>>14417980
I feel like interest rises and falls with corpo auditions. Personally, I'm really hoping that the NijiEN males are successful, so that there's a possibility for another wave of male NijiEN, or maybe even HolostarsEN.

I'm trying to figure out what I should say if someone asks if I have an Oshi. I actually used to be a teamate but Ame made fun of me too much and I stopped watching her. Should I just tell the truth about it or just lie and say I have no Oshi?

>>14417980
There's people becoming vtubers every single day, you just don't watch them because they're not posted here.

>>14411949
Make your hoodie black on the program too, and then add white text

Selen bump

>>14411949
You can paint it inVroid, then export it to GIMP or something to add the text,

>>14407879
Seems you got the wrong door, buddy. The Beatani thread's 2 blocks down.

>>14434782
Anyaposter, what are the chuubas to keep an eye on?

I tried to share a clip I thought was funny on a subreddit of a specific game and there's already a bunch of boomers calling me fake kek (this is without posting a link or a shill message). I honestly didn't expect this many try-hards there although it's kind of an old game. Have you guys ever tried marketing to Reddit?

>>14443467
No, I don't know how to use Reddit, and I don't think it would help much based on what I've seen.

>>14443467
calling you fake? what does that even mean

I like coming to these threads because they make me feel noticed despite my utter obscurity in the grand scheme of vtubing. The numbers game never weighed one before but I was close to getting affiliate and thought I would've achieved it by now. I guess the taste of actually having a handful of more people chatting during stream made me feel less irrelevant as a vtuber than just chatting to no one. Now that I'm back in literal 2view territory I think it's hitting me harder than usual.

>>14445806
Damn, sorry to hear that. How far off are you from affiliate?

>>14443467
I think it really just depends on the community; the one I shill to is usually receptive to the clips I post though I only really post them once or twice a month
usually they net a couple 100 upvotes with the highest hitting 1k
I've gotten followers from them as well though only a few of those became viewers that appeared in chat

>>14445215
I guess they thought my reactions were fake? I exaggerate my reactions but they certainly aren't fake kek. The guy who called me that seemed like an old man so he might just not understand streamers in general.

>>14446439
Like .4 viewers away. I had two extremely good days which was abnormal for me, but then it flatlined again during the same timespan and same games. I guess it's not in the cards for now.

>>14443467
Reddit seems like a graveyard as far as self-shilling goes. It’s either banned or it clutters subs. I think Discords are a better Avenue for this kind of thing,

>>14447479
Don't give up!

>>14456755
It's hard not to give in and quit but thanks anyway

Is the Logitech c270 good enough for tracking? I was gonna use Droidcam but then i realized i already use my phone for reading chat

Why do people want affiliate other than to confirm that they have a solid returning audience?
Is there a YouTube equivalent for it?

>>14457328
I thought I would've reached affiliate by now too. I started early September and figured reaching affiliate by the end of the year would be easy, but im still like 15 followers away. I'm pretty much held up by like 4 extremely loyal viewers.
If it's not fun right now there is no harm in taking a small break. Finding some enjoyment outside of the numbers helps.
Sometimes it helps me to think about a chuuba I know who is now partnered complaining about the same thing.

>>14416093
Is it that easy to reach out to them?

>>14422059
>>14425993
I'll give these two a try. Thanks, anons.

>>14462917
A lot of features are locked behind affiliate, like subbing, giving bits, channel points, also supposedly your discoverability is reduced without it.

>>14462917
to increase engagement with subs, emotes, and channel point redeems

>>14443467
I've numerous times, but four stick in my head

1 - Go live for a newish game, but it's a bit shit. The devs didn't set up the subreddit, I was the third post or something? The mod came in, and left a comment of "what the fuck, I forgot this existed"

2 - WH40k clip to r/virtualyoutubes. Got a decent amount of traction, but still ~15 updoots.

3 - Go live notification for a retro game. Hit a CCV of 15. No new follows or chatters. They all just lurked

4 - semi-active on streaming subs, and have had four people say "I saw you on reddit, and your advice was useful, so I followed"

>be useless NEET
>didn't even study something niche and unexpectedly valuable like most NEETs because of guilt and anxiety
>suddenly start considering vtubing because it looks fun and might help me build a routine
>if I do well enough I might even start making money
>dad suddenly falls ill and I might have to take care of him permanently from now on
>can't soundproof room because I need to listen when he calls me
>if he calls me I'll be doxxed on the spot
>can't pull a kano ch because I'm already low energy unless I hype myself up and my dad might wake up in the middle of the night and ask for something or just start yelling at me in his dreams
I guess this is it.

Now I'm seriously curious about this. While fanarts and skebs are a luxury, at what pace of releasing them has some sort of noticable effect to gaining new attention and maybe engagement?

>>14464079
I have no idea, I've only ordered one skeb and it took months to arrive. I don't know how people order so many, maybe I'm just stingy.

>>14464079
skebs don't do shit unless it's some kind of fetish pic. there's tons of vtubers who get hundreds of nice looking skebs only to be stuck as a 50view and never make partner

>>14434782
cute glasses

I've been practicing my singing but it's hard to tell if it's any good or bad. Is this good enough for covers/karaoke?

https://vocaroo.com/18AXZyJJOCLj

>>14470888
I think it's alright but isn't that song more upbeat?

>>14463697
>retro game
What sub did you post on? The game’s sub, or is there a general retro sub?

I think my character artist is dead

>>14472454
Don't think so, this is the song. And thanks for the input, at least I know it's not gonna scorch someone's ears. I'll keep practicing then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPUdFkkyVlw

>>14472523
The game's sub. If an older game has a semi-active subreddit, then just posting a few times before a go-live (over a fortnight, so it's not an obvious shill) can be a major boost to your figures. If it's less active, just chuck the go-live in and scramble.

>>14473425
I’ll try this out next time, thanks

>>14473425
yeah integrating into the community if it has any sort of activity is important; both because its polite and most places have some kind of rule where you need to have x amount of comments per topic you create
some of them are clearly stated while others just say to not spam yourself
>>14475599
here's some numbers from my shilling on a moderately active board; its not much but pretty much every post that got over 100 ended up in some new followers

>>14417980
I do, but I'm still months away from actually starting and couldn't think of any questions I have to warrant making a new thread myself

>>14477384
dropped my image because i'm a big silly, apologies

>>14421229
Please tell me how Ame made fun of you.

>>14463829
name your chuuba your real name so its real if he calls you by this name or ask him to phone or something

I feel like being a vroid is SUCH a huge debuff I want to get l2d but its expensive af
I have been streaming for such a long time but I fall behind all my friends and I am the only one with vroid model

>>14483012
VRoid is only a debuff if it's bad, but I don't think it's that big of one.

>>14483012
You could try to learn how to do a simple Live2d model. I made mine by just slightly editing a mugshot of an anime and getting some of the mouth movements from other shots.
It's not that hard to do, I'm a slow learner and even I had the hang of it after a month.
Then again, mine was just a test and not an original character, so you might have to work a bit more to edit an anime character that resembles yours.

>look up a game on Twitch with the Vtuber tag for current live streams
>every single one is a 2view furry with the LGBTQIA+ tag
I continue to understand nothing about the aspiring vtuber world and what is and isn't popular at any giving moment.

>Want to mostly do just chatting streams because i'm shit at vidya
>No one knows who i am so it doesn't really work

>>14490176
Everyone, even big streamers, built an audience playing games. You transition that audience into Chatting and non-gaming streams after.

If you're flexible or just not too picky about the design, there's some decent adoptables on Twitter from time to time. I've seen some great designs and sometimes even Live2D (both rigged and not rigged) for ridiculously low prices.

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>>14464079
What is skeb

>>14504246
A platform to commission art from

>>14464079
Art doesn't matter unless it's by a big artist or is NSFW, both cases lead to negligible engagement.

>>14490176
If you really don’t want to do games it might be best to just start with edited, prerecorded content. The Problem With [Nonsense]/I Almost Died When I [Whatever] has been big on YouTube forever.

>>14477566
Well damn, I guess I’ve been missing out on a shilling opportunity.

>>14483012
There's lots of nice vroid assets and models on booth. There's also the option to look at vrchat models on booth since those can be converted to work with face capture software and some sellers allow commercial use.

>>14504246
Skeb.jp, it’s the only way a lot of JP artists take commissions. You can find some real nice stuff on there, but you don’t get to communicate with the artist until the commission is done,

>>14510171
to be fair, it really depends on the communities you're shilling to; not all of them will leave the opportunity to shill easily but when you can find those communities or opportunities, take them!

>>14477520
What’s keeping you for months?

When you commision a rigging how much input you get in your model's expressions. Can you say you want X/Y expressions and point to a reference?

>>14520137
you probably have to pay extra for expressions and the rigger might need extra assets from your artist

>>14520794
thanks anon

https://v-reverie.com/
I came across this , they're opening auditions mid-December according to their website, if it's of interest to anyone here.

Have you ever thought about quitting? No fanfare, no graduation, just up and disappearing?

>>14406501
what are the 3d programs for vtubeing? I honestly think I could make and rig something 3d better then I could make 2d

My 2.0 model reveal went over really well and it's putting more fire under my ass to stream again. Just waiting on the rigging to be finished. Maybe I'm not gonna make it, but it'll be fun to try.

>>14528471
For making the model, VRoid or any 3D modelling program (Most people recommend Blender here because it's free and open source)
For rendering the model, VSeeFace or Luppet (I think there are more but those are the two i've seen be thrown around the most)

>>14527202
I've done it before but i'm back again under a different name

Anyone here use PrprLive? If you do do you know how to add expressions to it or do I need a different program for that?

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>>14518075
I'm moving across the country and starting college next year and I'm still working on my model.

>>14529514
how did it feel? did anyone recognize you? im thinking of doing the same.

>>14443467
I tried marketing again at Reddit and got shot down hard. There's something wrong with how uptight these people are.

>>14532743
Were your posts removed or did they just not get engaged with?

hello…. im new to posting and i was wondering if this was the right thread to get feedback on my twitch channel? i would like honest harsh criticism!! i want to grow as a vtuber!

>>14535130
yeah asp is the place to get help with your stream and get feedback

ok thank you!!
This is my twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/nonomiyamikan
I have other socials, but i'm mainly concerned about improving my twitch, whether it be stream redeems, my mic quality, voice, how i speak, etc. I'm open to any criticism! Thank you!

>>14532505
my most dedicated schizo found me but they didn't call me out publicly. I have a unique voice/accent combination but I only had around 30-50 avg viewers when I ditched my old chuuba. I had some antis and none of them recognized/found me so far.
I don't regret ditching my old vtuber

>>14535298
I think I've seen you around nade's chat. It seems like you've done your reps so there aren't that many glaring issues from the quick glance I've done through your vod. The scuffed layout is cute but might want to change it I guess.

>>14535298
Can't think of anything to critique except maybe instead of PNG for the sections of your about, you could make some little title icons like I see often. That's pretty extra, though. Otherwise you seem fine, is that your real voice though? If not, use your real voice because you sound like 20 different girls.

thank you!!!!! Also Nade is my friend!
I am commissioning a layout and right now i am on a waitlist so it will be a bit until I get it!
I will put changing my about sections onto my to-do list! And also, it is my real voice! It just fluctuates often.

>>14535415
how many viewers do you have now?

>>14535298
Cute design, nothing really stands out as awful.
I guess you're up for the next stage of advice for vtubers at your level is to

>figure out and find unique content that you can do that you're extremely passionate in
>do video editing and get clips done so you can post them on social media like tiktok, twitter and youtube
>network and connect with the wider vtuber community out there, start posting your channels in /wvt/ before you go on and find social media sites where you're allowed to shill your content
>be consistent in your streaming schedule so you can build an audience
>remember to have fun as a hobby or something serious you should always look to having a good time doing it all so you dont burn out

Thank u! That's a good idea! I'll reach out to my friends about tips on clip creation! As for WVT.. What's the difference between that and VT? Am i allowed to post my own channel there? Is selfposting here not seen in a bad light?

>>14537380
/wvt/ is the thread where people talk about western vtubers, you're welcome to share your links there. There's a lot of vtubers from 10 viewers to 1000 viewers hanging around there so it's a good way to network and make friends. They also talk about improvement and things like that, just join in and connect with the community and you'll grow in time.

>>14532456
If you can find the time it might be a good idea to do some practice streams before you finish your model.

>>14537529
nta but i've seen a tierlist of selfposters on one of the last few /wvt/ threads and it called out a few, what exactly did they do wrong?

>>14545218
found it

>>14545218
Schizo made list, disregard

>>14545887
>>14545218
yeah I'm pretty sure this was made by a schizo who has been having a meltdown for like the past two weeks

>>14546680
More like past six months, but yeah, ignore this list, and as a general point of advice, tierlists aren't worth paying attention to in a serious capacity, just assume they're made for fun.

>>14545218
Just a schizo. The thing about /wvt/ is that it's filled with friendly vtubers as well as deranged schizos and you need to have the mental fortitude to ignore them. Still it's a valuable resource for any vtuber to connect to a wider group that's quite hard to do if you just rely on twitter alone or something.

>>14546787
oh yeah I know he's been around pretty much since January but I feel like his posting has ramped up significantly compared to before...
and yeah take most tierlist with a grain of salt or understand that they're made with only one person's perspective in mind
a lot of times when tierlist are made to rank people on their quality I feel like they're usually made to target someone specifically

>>14545887
>someone took time to write all this shit down

>>14545920
>>14546680
>>14546868
Alright, i've only been lurking /wvt/ recently so i thought there was a hidden etiquette to selfposting i just couldn't grasp

>>14537049
>>figure out and find unique content that you can do that you're extremely passionate in
Unique content has never and probably will never matter unless you're already a big creator. No one is doing anything unique.

The rest I completely agree on but you guys have to stop falling for the "unique" meme.

>>14549872
Nobody's doing anything unique but there should be something that you're doing better than the others to differentiate yourself as a drawpoint compared to other vtubers out there. If you dont know your strengths yet, you need to figure out your charm point, your content that brings everyone to watch you.

There are vtubers good at singing, drawing, some do great zatsudans, ASMR, roleplay, cooking, warhammer painting and etc etc and you need to figure out what you're good at and to focus on getting better at in order to draw in an audience.

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>>14550251
>there should be something that you're doing better than the others
There's not, and there likely won't be for years to come unless you're just exceptionally skilled from the get go as most people who are big now started with some sort of talent already. Not everyone did, but those who didn't made it off of pure personality and charisma and probably a bit of networking too.

>>14477763
She called me her walking ATM. I don't care if it was a joke because it was a really shitty one. I didn't even donate any money and it still left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't forget things like that, especially after the bullshit that happened with Vshojo.

>>14562146
Honestly, don't take this the wrong way anon, but that kinda sounds like you're getting offended for someone else's sake. In light of what you've shared you should probably not mention that you used to be a Teamate if someone were to ask who your oshi is.

>>14562146
If it means anything i would've done the same, like the other anon said, don't really mention you were a teamate, good luck finding a new oshi bro

>>14560203
I think that anon phrased it poorly but I do think having a “thing” is a buff when you’re starting out, rather than being pure variety.

Should I risk pretending to be totally new at a game or will my muscles and "acting" betray me?
I thought of doing this for dota 2 because I believe it would be funny but I've played every single hero at least once. I don't think I'm bad enough at the game to fool anyone that knows the first thing about the game either.

>>14565266
yeah i realized it a bit late, they just mean standing out from the people who aren't standing out. absolutely true!

>>14534479
Just straight up removed kek.

>>14545887
Jones is pretty hilarious so he should be up a tier. Also, I didn't that girl down there was here... Interesting.

>>14545887
>Caleb is somewhere in bad but I think his name is stupid and a kid's name so I don't want to think about it.
lol

>>14566746
I stomped my actual first few games of dota quite hard, but only because I had played league before so I kinda knew what to do right away.

>>14545887
Who is that fucking guy using a Stardust cutout as a model?

>>14572008
A what?

Stop encouraging newfags to post in /wvt/ without lurking /asp/iefaggots, the thread is already overbloated with chuuba selfposts.

>>14572175
Stardust the Super Wizard.

>>14572538
Oh, that's Power Nelson, who streams as the public domain super hero of the same name

>>14562861
>>14564823

Thanks. Yeah I just won’t mention it then. Not much point in doing it since it’ll just cause unnecessary negativity.

>>14569781
Apparently her name is Alora and I'm shocked at her numbers. She has 600 followers and 1/6th are watching her right now. Every vtuber I've seen normally has thousands of followers and only like 1-200 watch them at a time. She got them in a short time too. How'd she do that?

>>14566746
I’m a little confused what you want to do here. If the joke is that it’s your “first time” but you’re actually great then your skill peeking through is a good thing. If you’re trying to do a Rags to Riches type thing you can just call yourself a bad player, no need to be specific. If you think there’s specifically a FIRST TIME OF PLAYING buff you can just say you’ve watched some streams/guides so you’ve got an ok idea of how everyone works.

>>14545887
holy wall of text tier tower that is some top tier tism

Might as well ask, since the thread needs a bump anyway. Does anybody know of any good free brass plugin instruments? For some reasons Spitfire has whale sounds but not a saxophone.

>>14576768
free if you have kontakt, but otherwise, i don't know anything else
https://blog.native-instruments.com/5-free-saxophone-libraries-for-kontakt/

>>14573727
She paid for embedding aka legal viewbots
She also whores herself out

I’ve looked at my year in review and I’ve honestly stagnated pretty hard for the last 6 months or so… just really inconsistent stream numbers. It says my overall growth is up but….

>>14582442
Do you have a consistent stream schedule?

I know what it's depends on country but generally at what $/month i should start worrying about paying taxes for streaming?

>>14586090
It super depends where you are. In the UK, you can earn up to £1000 from any non-PAYE source, and just not declare it, but can't claim expenses. You hit £1001, you have to declare, but you can then immediately claim expenses, to make it £0 profit. Just need to be sensible.

bumpu

>>14582442
How have your numbers been? I haven't been able to grow much either in the past six months...
I did remember reading in another thread that stream length is a big factor in growing and I feel like that's just been something out of my control which feels bad... I hate having to cut good streams short because of living conditions ;_;

>>14577436
I’ll check this out, thanks

what is the program/plugin/whatever that makes twitch chat scroll across your screen horizontally like niconico comments? also the one that makes emotes from chat bounce around the screen?

I had some people recommend me card games and strategy games to play because I'm just not that great at FPS. I think streaming myself getting into Gwent might be fun.

>>14596094
Go for it, see what kind of reception you get. I feel like that could have a very loyal community.

>>14596094
I say go for it as long as you enjoy them

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>>14598412
Hey Selenposter, watch anyone interesting recently?

Any small victories lately /asp/?

>>14596027
this is the most annoying shit please don't do that

>>14601801
i was struggling last month to break over 5 viewers but the past few streams this month have had me break through 10 viewers regularly
i did have to cut them short though which is a bit disappointing because i can't really stream for more than two hours normally

>>14599232
Alice Sawyer is one of my favourites when I feel like watching something more low energy, perfect amount of comfortable and funny. Lisa from Tsunderia has been interesting too.

>>14602251
Good to hear anon, why can't you stream more than 2 hours?

>>14601801
I'd started planning my six month celebration stream, and asked a few mutuals if they were interested in joining for some large scale collabs, and have had overwhelmingly positive responses from people wanting to help me celebrate

>>14603913
Different anon, but I also can't stream over 2h - I have a baby sister and we live in the same flat, so she has to be out on a stroll or sleep so no one hears her on a stream, and on winter I cannot expect my parents to take her for like 3-4h

>>14603913
I live in a shared space and it would be rude of me to take that space up for too long...

How do you get over the anxiety of bothering your neighbors? I'm always so paranoid I'm bothering them every time I'm recording or streaming.

>>14606191
Talk to them about it. If they complain, look up your local laws on loudness if there are any. Try to soundproof your broadcast area if you can.

I'm steadily growing but not really doing anything different..i wonder if i should just keep doing what works instead of thinking too hard about it.

>>14607086
If it's working keep going, I'd say!

>>14607086
I think you should just keep on doing what works if its still giving you growth! Usually people talk about changing things up if you're stagnating but if people keep on coming then I think you should focus on that

>>14439771
I talked about Bloom last time, so this time I’ll say I think Mint Castella’s radiogarden streams are really fun. Unique without being too “unique.” She’s also very good at making conversation.
>>14467949
Aren’t they?

>>14615549
do you watch any that aren't /wvt/ staples?

>>14615713
i feel like most chuubas that people will talk about here are either /here/chuubas or bigger non/here/ mainly because its hard to find those diamonds in the rough when there's no other place for community discussion surrounding smaller chuubas

>>14406501
New Vtubers make the best streamer buddies, their awkward personality always comes in to fill the void of silence when no ones talking~

>>14618511
>when there's no other place for community discussion surrounding smaller chuubas
i half expected this place to be the one to talk about smaller chuubas. i was proven wrong when /wvt/ just talks about the same handful of chuubas. there isn't even discussion about how to improve, just dramabaiting and ritual posts that waste everyone's time.

I was going over that DONT STREAM UNTIL video again and I was wondering if I really needed to have a group of streamers I want to emulate of my own.
Can't I just grab the guys he uses as examples and learn from them? It seems to be working for him and, not to sound arrogant, there's not that much I want to learn from other streamers that's not just generic engagement/promotion stuff.

>>14619532
>Can't I just grab the guys he uses as examples and learn from them?
yes you can

>>14619532
>>14619927
I don't think so honestly. He's been watching those content creators evolve for years and years and years and they fit his interests. You should pick people you already watch otherwise someone like Sodapoppin has literally nothing for you. If there's not much you want to learn from other streamers then you should probably reassess that first since there's always something there to learn.

>>14615713
Basically what >>14618511 said, I watch Holosanjis and /wvt/ types cause they’re easier to find. I don’t have the time or the stomach to go dumpster diving. I do watch some smaller traditional streamers, and some JPVsingers.

What is, realistically speaking, the most optimistic potential outcome for a male vtuber in the western market? Why would you not just stream normally if there's seemingly no inherent benefit to vtubing from an audience or channel-building perspective when compared to female vtubers?

>>14620685
i disagree with this pretty hard. they're successful and doing something right. better to learn from someone who has made it than trying to learn from someone who isn't making it. you can always tilt your content towards what you like. however you should take fundamentals from the successful ones.

I finally grew some balls and streamed once, but kept pussying out every other time afterwards. I know I just have to get used to it over time, but gaddamn does my stage fright kick in at the last second. •́ ﹏ •̀

>>14620685
>If there's not much you want to learn from other streamers then you should probably reassess that first since there's always something there to learn.
I meant to say that I feel like I already have a clear idea of what kind of "character" I want to be in front of the motion capture software. Now I would just have to get myself out there and iron out the usual problems like lack of confidence.

>You should pick people you already watch otherwise someone like Sodapoppin has literally nothing for you.
The issue is that I don't watch all that many streamers and one of the few I watch is from a political channel that has gathered his audience through word of mouth; another is a one trick pony that falls to single digits if he strays from his one trick, and the other is my oshi, Pippa.
There was also this guy that I loved and made me laugh until I had abdominal pain but he retired.

>I don't think so honestly. He's been watching those content creators evolve for years and years and years and they fit his interests.
I can't really go through all of my favorites' backlogs.

>>14621500
That's what I was thinking. Learn what they do so I can implement it on my own content.

>>14621412
I want to do it simply because I want to have some level of separation between the character I portray on stream and my real life. It would also be a good outlet for my amateur 3d modeling and drawing skills, and I think I have a personality and interests that would cater to the vtuber audience pretty well.

I'll figure it out eventually but why the fuck is fixing up your shit audio so fucking hard? It's plugins this and software that if you are a poorfag, it's expensive mics and tuning up your room if you are a richfag. Why can't computers and desktops just come prebuilt with quality shit? Companies fags can eat the hot shit coming out of my ass.
t. Poorfag tired of figuring out how to set up reaper and obs watching 30+ vids made by groomer slobs

>>14622001
I’ve found it’s easy to get past stage fright if you have some kind of “going live soon!” screen to start with. Easier to trick your brain into thinking you’re not actually going live.

>>14622494
I had a dinky little "Starting Soon" screen, but I didn't end up using it since I thought it'd look kinda lame. I'll definitely actually use it for my next try tomorrow though to see if it'll actually help me out some▽

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Are there any examples of artist who do something like VOMS? Looking for art that appeals to weebs and the like, but its also slight bit cartoony as well. I mentioned VOMS before because I feel like they're pretty close to what I want. Riyo (whos work Ill give an example of) from fgo is also pretty close too. I already have a design, and I don't want it to get really anime like.

This is for a live2d and am male btw.

>>14627057
https://twitter.com/staySOCKY
made https://twitter.com/kizakyun/status/1470251566271717377/video/1

>>14622086
What they do is dependent on large audiences, guaranteed. Your content shifts as a streamer as you gain viewers and there's much more leeway. He can go live and watch Gura's outfit debut while his chat memes and shits on it, you can't. He can go live and watch LSF clips, meanwhile most chuuba viewers have no clue what that is.

People need to know who you are first before you start doing any kind of content replication, but Ludwig started off with lots and lots of Youtube research, editing, and just general knowledge about streaming/content creation methods and the numbers behind it. That's specifically why he mentions "old sodapoppin".

They've also got the benefit of being an IRL Streamer which, believe it or not, matters. You need content that's entertaining with just a 2D model, wit, and maybe some ingenuity figuring out some cool tricks you can do with the medium. His best old bits were visual and performative like body painting or being zapped with a tazer or dancing with a shovel. Now he sits around and plays shitgames and WoW.

>>14627147
Ill keep an eye out. They always seem to be closed when I look. Any others? Want to cast as wide of a net as possible

>>14627245
might have better results asking cartoon furry artists for live2d models since most carry that cartoon like asthetic to the humanoid characters they draw.

>>14627680
I dont want to be too cartoony.im still larping as a character on stream based off of a trend from japan. That being said, Ill still give any suggestions a look.

>>14627875
might get a better response from anons if you showed an example of what you're looking for

>>14627895
https://imgur.com/a/VrMYzV9
i posted one image prior, but I went and tried to grab a few images.

I was gonna try vtubing, but I ended up ditching and am now trying to become a Live2D rigger instead. Problem is I have no idea how to advertise or get clients. Send help.

>>14628496
I should have probably mentioned that the first image was the original design, the one getting turned into a live 2d. Not exactly able to get one right now, but I want to have my ideal artist tracked down so I know when they're gonna open.

Kind of a weird question: I realised that because of the marketing funnel effect, people who follow rarely translate directly into views. If we take followers as someone who “bookmarked” your stream because they may check it out later, what drives people to do that? Is it more the presentation (model, assets) or the theme (niche type, jokes, game) that would lead to a follower that doesn’t watch? I’m asking to understand what to prioritise when I want to grow follows for the number sake.

>>14628532
>Problem is I have no idea how to advertise or get clients. Send help.
get yourself verified on the live2d community discord as a freelance rigger, provide portfolio of your work.
>>14628663
you're over thinking it. you're a streamer, focus on your content first. stop worrying about tiny numbers.

>>14628663
The thing in the end that drives them to come back is your personality and the content you create. I'd say people who follow and never return is a lot more complex since even top streamers tend to have a pretty low follower to viewer ration. I'd say it's anyone who loses interest in you or your content, or never had it in the first place. Content always needs to come first. It's the most important aspect, but if people don't like your personality (which is what drives the content as far as live stuff goes), then they've got no reason to stay.

>>14628823
>get yourself verified on the live2d community discord as a freelance rigger, provide portfolio of your work.
Trying to get there, but it's a vicious cycle of trying to contact potential clients but they don't even bother replying to my pitch.

>>14628955
>it's a vicious cycle of trying to contact potential clients but they don't even bother replying to my pitch.
Why are you contacting clients and what is your "pitch"? Shouldn't you focus on rigging some models and having sample work before you're contact any clients or doing any pitches?

>>14628955
that's not usually how it works. clients see your portfolio and reach out to you. not the other way around. do you have a portfolio you can show potential clients or have it somewhere accessible on social media?

>>14629002
You can't get verified on that discord server without clearing their application - and well, now you can't get verified at all, the form for it is currently closed. There's only so much I can do with the current model psds I have on hand, I'm sadly not an artist, just a rigger.

>>14629056
I do have those yes. There's a channel on the discord for both artists/riggers and another for people looking for artists/riggers, you can only post once a week in the first one so it's really easy to get overlooked. As for the other one, that's where I try to pitch my portfolio.

>>14629180
>>14629180
>There's only so much I can do with the current model psds I have on hand, I'm sadly not an artist, just a rigger.
Damn, it just sounds like you might be stuck for now. Maybe you can find some pre-rigged models and try your hand at rigging them yourself, but better? I'm sure there's some test dummies out there somewhwere.

>>14622318
Anon what's your budget? There plenty options for good audio set for around 150-ish.

>>14629331
Yeah, I'll keep looking and trying. I was thinking of fiverr too, but people on the Live2D discord seem to be vehemently against going on there due to potential scams, thefts, and fiverr's cut, but I seriously have no idea how to get clients otherwise.

>>14629597
I was talking to a friend about this last night, as he wanted to get into rigging, he likes that kind of thing. Do a raffle/giveaway, or a super-cheap one. I bought a new model from someone who wanted to learn vroid, so it cost me $15. It's obviously not high-end, but it's a step in the right direction

Question is it possible to stream with a potato PC with like 4 gb of ram and an integrated GPU?
I also have very limited SSD space like around less than 6gb left but I have an external hardrive of 1 terrabyte Idk how vods and the stream work much
Would appreciate some help ty

>>14629814
it all depends on the game really, OBS isn't that heavy on your pc but if you get framerate drops regularly in a game then you probably shouldn't stream it. even better if you have an iphone for face tracking since webcam tracking can actually take a lot of processing power but if you're pngtubing then it doesn't matter

>>14629814
Yes. You might need to PNGtube, and you might be limited in what you can stream, but it's certainly possible.

Upload your VODs to a youtube channel, and don't worry about saving them locally.

Anyone interested in watching a VOD? I really need feedback on the way I stream.

>>14629597
1) build your portfolio
- host a raffle. clarify that you want to rig unique models. this is so you can make a png of their model the requirement to enter. they can email it to you if they don't want to publicly post it. this is important. you want to pick the highest quality models here, as in the ones that look the best or have big artists attached to them. I've seen great riggers get little traction because the art they rigged was low tier. if you pick multiple models make sure they have different features. f.e. one with wings, one with cat ears/tail.

2- showcase and animation tool
learn the animation tool and make gifs to advertise your rigs. make a showcase and show off the movement of your already rigged models.
you can use the "play" button in live2d for this but frankly it will always look unnatural, you're better off making a proper showcase.
3- pricing
make a price sheet and explain what your clients are getting out of commissioning you. f.e. if you can do advanced mouth movement/ body movement/ angle Y2 or angle Y3 even... etc.

>>14631728
Drop it here, there's usually one or two feedback anons at any given time

>>14629681
>>14632725
I'll think about the raffle thing, thanks for that idea.

Yeah I probably should revamp my carrd/portfolio, and pricing sheet. Probably gonna make one that I can post on twitter as well, for visibility.

How to get more subs on YT than on Twitter? Heck, I have double the number on Twitter... I want my yt to grow more :( and how do I get views from non-vtubers?

>>14632976
Here's my latest one. Thank you for your time!
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1233078421

>>14633223
Learn SEO

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>>14621412
ngl, i thought about doing the same as Anomaly and just wearing a mask, but i'm scared people are gonna say i'm stealing his gimmick

>>14633378
thoughts:
- Red/white japanese theme is alright. Is it Christmassy, or just because I've not seen you before? However, you then don't have a BG for the game - it's just the poster art. Consider either fullscreening, or get a static background
- You flicker between non/talking. Are you using Fugi, or Discord plug-in thing?
- your chatbox overlay is white text, with white on background. Consider using either a shadow drop, or a colour source to add a bit of contrast.
- 00:05:09 - subtitles say "her death in indeed tragic", NPC says "her death is indeed tragic", you say "her death in indeed tragic" as an echo. Don't voice when it's already spoken, feel free to read-out subtitles
- 00:22:19 - subtitles have words, NPC doesn't say anything, you don't read everything the pumpkin head thing talks about. Either read all of it, or none of it.
=> continuing on, you go with "what's this guy pointing at", which is a nice little diversion, but you go nowhere with it.

>>14632725
>I've seen great riggers get little traction because the art they rigged was low tier.
Know anybody who isn’t booked though 2024?

>>14629557
>150
I'm a NEET. My budget is 0. I should figure out plug ins in time, and if I build an audience despite these handicaps I will get enough for a decent mic. It's just frustrating because the resources are scattered and my attention span sucks shit, I'm gonna make it.

>>14535298
One thing I could say is that chat starts to outpace you sometimes and you respond to comments made a long time ago which can mess with the conversation.

>>14638477
Not them and not trying to blow up your spot or anything, but what's keeping you from working?

>>14622318
>Why can't computers and desktops just come prebuilt with quality shit?
you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway

Does anybody have advice on how to fully wipe your identity from the internet? I don't think there's really anything to find about me, but I'm worried there might be things that can be traced back to me that I haven't considered.

>>14639717
Look your full name and any nicknames you've ever used in Google, Bing and Duckduckgo, from there on, figure out if any site that shows up where you have an account allows deletion, if so, do it, if not, see if you can delete all your posts, or at least all the ones that reveal identyfing info, if deleting posts

>>14622318
>Why can't computers and desktops just come prebuilt with quality shit?
Not many people need high quality sound, and specialized equipment tends to be waaaaaaay more expensive than something general population need. Prebuilts are also costlier than something you assemble on your own.

>>14640383
>Prebuilts are also costlier than something you assemble on your own.
This isn't as true as it used to be, unfortunately. I've only windowshopped but it seems like if you want to build an entry-level gaming pc in 2021 you might be better off buying a prebuilt

>>14640434
Fucking crypto dickheads

>>14640228
Thank you! Didn't think to check Bing and DuckDuckGo before.

>>14640434
I ordered a prebuilt, only way I could get a gtx-30 series. It was cheaper to buy entire than GPU, CPU, and MoBo, but came with everything. Huge disparity in prices!

>>14641654
That's fucking insane. I built one in August 2020 with a Ryzen 5 and RTX 2060 and I don't wanna know how much more I would have paid if I had waited any longer to do so

>>14641877
I wanna upgrade to a 3060TI but i'm not sure if i can sell my 1060 and then find a 3060TI fast enough

>>14640434
>>14641654
Certainly not in my country.

>>14640512
has nothing to do with crypto you underaged zoomer retard, you havent been able to mine for profit with gpus for years
we had major disruptions in the industry plus the corporations have now realised that subhuman zoomers are willing to cough up 100's to buy a low end card
prices will never go back down

>>14643065
>impatient retards are willing to overpay for a low end card
FTFY

>>14641654
where did you order yours?

>>14646124
Costco
Only really cheaper because I'm gold member, so get cashback on everything, and bought on my dad's credit card because he's got a stupid high cashback on that, but it cut a nice amount off total.

https://www.costco.co.uk/p/352163

>frequently received complements on my voice in the past
>been considering vtubing despite having the male debuff because it seems like a lot of fun though i'm still collecting equipment/research/designing a persona
>majoring in speaking moon, so i'm at least somewhat conversational, could maybe stream in both languages like pikamee
>came down with an asthmatic cough that's aggravated by talking
is there still any hope for me to make it? can i make my slowly declining health and periodically hacking up a lung thing part of the design for moe appeal?

>>14652373
take a lozenge for coughs and get started. use a tired and sick avatar with a thermometer in his mouth instead of a cigarette and a hot water pack instead of a cowboy hat. it doesn't matter, just get started.

>>14652373
This might be TMI, but I get really bad phlegm in my noise and throat when I talk too much (aka around 2 hours of stream) so what I do is I mute my mic and blow my noise/cough into a cup to get all of it out and then go back to streaming. So far no one has noticed!

i was told i should post this here
hello i am looking to put together a radio play of The Plot to Overthrow Christmas i have 9 people currently and need 5(2 not counting the strangers) more to fill the roster
the roles that are taken for sure are mephisto, ivan and lucretia borgia the rest have yet to be taken
this will be a video as some of the current particpants are in different time zones or will be leaving to see family for christmas though there will be a stream showcasing it prior to its premiere with some of the cast there
i am hoping to have the recordings done by the 23rd and the video done by the 25th and have it premiere the same day
if you are interested in participating please contact me on twitter at @eschaton_ch
(the wiki page(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plot_to_Overthrow_Christmas))
(a recording(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pegvlsIyvH4))

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Does anyone know how to keep yourself from being batman with the personality of joker? My only marketable skill that people compliment me on is my evil laugh and I feel the need to base my entire character around that.

>>14658126
Be the Joker with the prsonality of the Joker

>>14658789
So... nux?

>>14658126
I'd like a vtuber who plays a comedic ineffective villain.

>>14659786
No, he's Batman with the personality of the Joker!

>>14658126
>Does anyone know how to keep yourself from being batman with the personality of joker?
i know this is bait but in case it's not why? just do it. no chuuba fits that niche right now and it might help set you apart enough to break out of 2view hell.

>>14622001
Gaddamn it, I'm such a pussy. Last time I had a friend countdown with me to ease my anxiety and the actually streaming part afterwards was ezpz for me, but it's still just that fear of hitting that first button to go live. ⋟﹏⋞

>>14661960
streaming might not be for you.

>>14661960
>it's still just that fear of hitting that first button to go live. ⋟﹏⋞
give up, you're not cut out for streaming if just hitting the button is causing you this much anxiety.

>>14661960
My last piece of advice is to put your mouse over Start Streaming, close your eyes, and click. If that doesn’t work then I got nothing.

>>14661960
Streamer anxiety is normal. Don't listen to the 0views here telling you to stop. With time, you will get used to it.

>>14660227
No hes just sans from undertale with slade's mask from teen titans

>>14664563
Wasn't Gura also an introvert at first?

Okay so, I have this design that I'm super passionate about. Should I just use it as an indie, or should I save it to possibly pitch to a corporation if I ever get the chance? Dumb question, I know, but I just need someone to level with me.

I honestly can't believe Nux went to vtubetown with a model that's just several copyrighted characters glued together.

Hey guys should i become a vtuber?

>>14664594
Can't forget that he's also Persona 5's Joker. This is the only Nuxpost I will make in this thread.

>>14665162
Most corps already have models that they provide/assign you. I guess it depends on the corporation, but I would use it as an indie if it's something you are really passionate about. Let that passion show through in your content!

>>14665162
That's up to you. I will say that if you aren't already a streamer and haven't started vtubing yet that the idea to pitch it to a corporation is a pretty pie in the sky idea. Unless you're a really talented illustrator or something. I'd just stream with the design if I were you.

>>14665287
If you want to, why not? All I know about you is your name so I can't give much more feedback.

>>14665162
use it. corpos might not allow input anyway and this way you get to keep your design and don't have to scrap it should you leave the corpo

>>14665564
Well i might >=3

Hopefully i will be sussesful

>>14665546
>>14665564
>>14665660
I think I'll just use it then. Thank you for the feedback! ^^

I do need to work in my girl voice tho

>>14406501
Step one: view bot. its easy

>>14666231
View botting is better for big events where you've already got lots of people, or if you've already got an active chat, doing it without viewers is super obvious.

>>14666231
like another anon said, viewbotting when you're a 0view is too obvious, besides, at that point you mostly want what few viewers drop by the stream to interact, which bots don't do

>>14661960
Don't feel bad, I have immense anxiety and it was super hard for me to get started.
I eventually got myself to do it by recording 3 weeks worth of recording private videos and eventually just decided to stream.
I won't lie to you, the first 2 or so weeks were incredibly nerve-wracking, but after about a month it stopped bothering me.
Hopefully you can find the way to get yourself psyched up to stream, and after a while, it will get easier.

>>14666557
>>14666387
Id just get free proxies and keep yourself at around 10 viewers, keeps you above the rest without being too obvious.

>>14668774
10 views and no chatters is blatant

>>14668870
Comon 10 or 15 no one would call you out its not that big of a number to have low interaction

>>14668774
Is there really anything to be gained by viewbotting when your audience is that small? I still haven't streamed yet but I was under the impression that it wouldn't really be a great idea to do that.

>>14669066
There's really no way to get caught unless you show it on stream, and even if you send 4k viewers to yourself you can just say you didn't do it

If you got banned for having random 4k viewers I could get anyone banned just by sending them it and putting some random dude on top 20 in just chatting...

>>14669192
I see. I'm still not exactly seeing a reason why I would want to do that, but that might be because I would probably get myself anxious expecting someone to call me out on it if I were to stream while doing it, even with just ten to fifteen bots like the other anon said. Is the idea that I would be making my chatroom seem more inviting or what?

>>14669192
But why? What does having a 4000 in the bottom right of the screen get you? They’re probably pretty easy for Twitch to filter out of your Partner stats. Anybody coming in expecting you to be popular in your category is gonna figure out the game once they see chat is empty.

>>14669589
>>14669565
It puts you at the top of the category. That's why it's good for events like subathons or debuts/redebuts but only if you're already relevant enough to have people there.

>>14670249
Ah, okay. That makes sense. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

If you feel the need to view bot then vtubing is straight up not for you. Getting into the momentum of streaming and growing a consistent audience requires patience, if you don't have that then you've already lost.

>>14670848
Yeah, "bot your streams" was not advice I expected to get from this thread.

>>14670249
If you did this right now your event would be slumming on the second row of Just Chatting it with some random standup comic and a Yogscast Rerun. On top of that, Twitch defaults to Recommended For You, not Viewers. I really don’t think you get anything out of this, unless you’re a porntuber and you want to be king of the porntubers.

>>14670977
This is one tourist being insane, for the record. Nobody’s ever genuinely suggested viewbotting here before.

>>14671023
Why do you think people Embed? it brings you back to the top. And Twitch may default to recommended but that's not what most users have it set to. Second row of just chatting is a great place to be, top of the VTuber one is great too. again it works, but you need to have some kind of viewership to begin with.

>>14661960
Not gonna lie, this is me, too.
I can talk my way into and out of any situation IRL, but whenever I feel like doing a practice stream in order to see if I could be an actual entertainer, I freeze and just give up on the idea after some minutes.
I've even tried to get drunk first, but I instantly sober up when I'm about to start.
At least you already streamed something before. I can't build up the courage to do it, no matter what. But one of these days I'll take the first step, so I hope you don't give up, either.

>>14671223
Baseball players have been corking their bats for a century and it turns out it makes your hitting worse. Just because something is against the rules doesn’t mean it’s effective. Nobody’s ever gotten big off the back of bots.

>>14672160
It's not about getting big, it's about getting more eyes on you. The more eyes on you the better off you are, that's just a fact. Your content will decide if they stay but there's never anything wrong with more people seeing you.

My vtuber avatar doesnt look anime, will i be ok?

>>14673854
Yeah, I don't see why not. As long as it's well-designed and suits your streaming persona I don't think it would really be a debuff.

>>14673950
DO i need a streaming persona/lore?
i kind of just wanted to be myself

>>14673999
>DO i need a streaming persona/lore?
no. and the vast majority of viewers don't care unless you specifically reference it as part of your content.

examples
>you're a magical girl vtuber and your stinger transitions are inspired by late 90s, early 00s magical girl anime shows
>you're an ancient european mythological creature vtuber and do monthly streams talking about linguistics and how european languages evolved over time, how certain languages share roots and you can make funny jokes about how you lived through those developments
and other shit like that which is directly related to content your viewers can enjoy. otherwise, if your lore and persona background is some twelve paragraph tumblr essay no one gives a fuck.

>>14673999
Nah, you don't. I haven't started yet either, but I've written a short backstory for my avatar. Like the other anon's suggestions, mine is basically just there to give me a reason to share my hobbies and interests with the viewers and to give my stream an easily identifiable theme.
I'm also hoping it will serve as a creative way to obfuscate the specifics of my day to day and details about the people in my life since I will inevitably bring that kind of stuff up on stream.

Streaming persona can just refer to the persona you have on stream. Asmongold vs Zackrawr is a great example. Same person, entirely different personas depending on what stream they're on. Just make sure it's in line with your actual personality or interests.

What is a good approach for starting out? I don't know any other streamers or anything. I was just thinking about making a reddit post announcing my vtubing and then streaming a fuck ton, like 8 hours a day 5 days a week. Is there a better way? I don't know anything lol

>>14674603
Asmongold and Zackrawr are the same person, they are not different personas. They have the exact same opinions on all topics and the same sense of humor and takes. The only difference is that 'asmongold' is more vibrant because he's actively trying to entertain and 'zackrawr' is just asmon when he's trying to relax.

Should I be a goblin girl vtuber or a wolf girl vtuber

>>14679469
8 hours is pretty long for a streamer just starting out. for starters, its hard to expect viewers to stick around for that long, so your average viewers will be lower as they will be spread more thin.
furthermore, and more importantly, youll have a harder time keeping your energy up and filling dead air if you go for that long. so youre more likely to end up with 8 hours of boring shit. this also means that your vods will be less attractive to non-live viewers and youll have to spend more time going back through it for highlights/clips, so itll be harder to draw in viewers with recorded content when you arent streaming.
bottom line is 1 hour of great content is much better than 8 hours of okay content. but the sweet spot is around 2-4 hours and i wouldnt recommend going beyond that. 5 days a week as fine, you can probably just do as many days as you can manage without burning out.
like if you just wanna play games and maybe have some people watching to chat with then dont mind me, stream whenever and however you want. but if you wanna take it serious just remember that most of the work you do for your stream should be off-stream. quantity < quality, after all it might only take one great 30 second clip to launch you off

>>14679469
8 hours a day streams? Lol, you won't even last an hour on the first one. The reason why is because your throat is not used to speaking that long. Your throat will most likely be sore the next day. Stream your first week first and then decide what's right for you.

Next year I’m gonna hit 500 viewers. I’m gonna work smarter not harder! I’m gonna stop being too afraid to reach up! Just watch me /asp/ies! We’re all gonna make it!!!

>>14684305
less talk more action

How do you get past having 0 viewers

>>14684495
Play Subnautica or Stardew

>>14680079
Post Vocaroo

>>14680079
There are a lot of goblins already but I can't think of that many wolf girls

>>14684541
NTA but why those games?

>>14680079
No one watches a vtuber because of what colour a small .png in the bottom corner is.
Be entertaining.

>>14687450
People ITT always focus purely on the design.

>>14686912
nta, i guess relatively few streamers yet popular enough to warrant attention, Stardew gives you the opportunity to do character voices too, and if even then no one shows up, they are still two great games so at least you spent that time playing them

I just wanted to remind you all that you will never be a chuuba unless you really work for it and try your best, in which case you will be

>>14687588
I'll do my best.

>>14687450
I am going to have the same personality regardless, I just want to know which one of those two that people would be more interested in

>>14688228
Wolf girl. Just try to avoid it looking exactly like everything other cat girl/fox girl. I've seen a few like that.

>>14688228
People aren't interested in your .png design in the slightest. They watch performers ie. streamers to be entertained.
The kind of people that genuinely care about things like that are groomers ticking off fetish checkboxes. They aren't there for streams but to get off and they are going to be obsessed with doxing you and getting in your pants.

>>14688574
Ok then what would you personally find entertaining in a twitch streamer

>>14689098
Not that anon but probably if they stream things that coincide with my interests though you should stream based on things you enjoy doing.
To get roped into a streamer outside of my interests they have to promote the thing that they do in a way that I'd find entertaining or informative as if I was getting something from it or would like to get into it further myself.

>>14680079
Wolf, we need more furry vtubers and it's an underserved niche waiting to be capitalized on.

>>14689559
It would be a girl with wolf ears not a full on furry wolf

>>14689559
kek case in point of what that other anon was talking about with fetish groomers
>>14680079
post pictures or atleast describe them

Banp

>>14692935
Oh nvm lol

>>14689098
"Charisma" is really the only way to say this. There are all sorts of ways charisma can manifest. You'll know they have charisma if you're watching for them not the game.

at the very least you can put in some half ass acting chops on stream. if you talk and sound like just a generic nerd no one is going to stick around. give your viewers something.