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The absolute fucking state of council.

>> No.14368306

Mumei had around 1400 in her members only stream earlier for reference.

>> No.14368403

>>14367843
those are literally ID numbers

>> No.14368426

Kronii... literally what happened to her? She used to be pulling more numbers than other council members.

>> No.14368446

>>14367843
>>14368403
Still the top .1% of vtubers, at least pick shitposts that are realistic. "Council noombers bad" isn't.

>> No.14368454
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>>14368426
Laziness.

>> No.14368498

>>14368426
Tummy hurt pls andastand

>> No.14368508

>>14368446
A single vSHITjou streamer has more viewers than all of them combined Councilnigger. Keep pretending sub-Kiara numbers are acceptable for Hololive members. Wooow what an achievement, they got more viewers than a 2view indie!

>> No.14368529

>>14368426
not her usual timeslot. all of council seem to be making way for mori's upcoming concert

>> No.14368619

>>14368426
You know how people meme that Ina hates her fans? Kronii is that except unironically.

>> No.14368640

Council are nijiEN. That's the only explanation. It's a nijiEN enclave within hololive territory.

>> No.14368663

>>14367843
they all move to this timeslot to not overlap calli concert.

>> No.14368692

>>14368454
At least try using a schedule that isn't over a month old
Oh wait you can't because that wouldn't fit your schizo narrative, kys

>> No.14368745
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>>14368692
Keep damage controlling.

>> No.14368762

>>14367843
>streaming 3PM Pacific

People have jobs and school lmao

>> No.14368768

>>14368426
Councils tourists are getting bored. We're now hitting the stage where only actual fans will stick around to watch their streams.

>> No.14368776

>>14368508
Excuse you anon. 2k + 2.5k + 4.5k = 9k So combined they're still beating Nyanners by 12. Checkmate

>> No.14368796

>>14368745
>26 hours in an entire month
Clockniggers be like: FUCK YES KRONII I LOVE IT WHEN YOU NEVER STREAM

>> No.14368800

>>14368745
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/image/dqAGohHgTyoVaM1_LXBdUw/
kek

>> No.14368856

Time to check em out now that tourists left. I catched them all at the debut and watched Kronii play 12 minutes and I'm membered to Fauna. How is Kronii? I don't want to ask in /infinity/ since that's the worst place imaginable. What's her membership streams like? Does she really hate streaming? Is rrat any good? Same questions apply. What are some qualities that they display that can't be found in other chuubas?

>> No.14368908

>>14368745
For the love of God take your meds anon

>> No.14369066

>>14368768
That’s what I’m saying. So many people I know were so quick to jump into the council bandwagon, and are doing the same with HoloX. I watch IRyS, Fauna and occasionally Mumei, but I’m a Myth/Gura purist no matter what flashy character debuts next.

>> No.14369098

>>14368856
Fauna is the best one so you made the right choice.
Kronii flip-flops between funny and boring depending on the situation, her main problem is that she can't hold a conversation with the viewers at all and stopped even trying. Also she plays awful debuff games like Frostpunk part #11281261 where she just says nothing for hours.
And yes she does not like streaming. Someone sent her an angry SC about her always playing Minecraft off-stream while barely streaming and she basically said that she prefers it because having to keep chat engaged while streaming is just sooo annoying to the point of ruining her enjoyment of the game itself.

Rrat is good but nobody can watch her due to streaming at meme fucking aussie times
Sana is good but her massive Aussie accent puts everyone off
Haven't watched Mumei after that abysmal debut week and I never will, fuck her.

>> No.14369199

>>14368856
Kronii is a natural entertainer (hence the initial popularity), but she’s inhibited by laziness and mental illness. The hating her fans thing is completely bullshit, but she is often tempted to use her mental illness as an excuse to be lazy.

>> No.14369260

>>14369098
Kronii says that as if you can't make prerecorded content. Stop falling for the lies.

>> No.14369283

>>14368856
Kronii needs meds and a manager to get her on track (which EN doesn't have).
Mumei is debuffed by school finals and still the best Council.
Sana is cute if you can stand her autism and Aussie.
Bae is a disappointment.
Fauna is cute and underrated but she doesn't put herself out there. She's the actual gamer (with Sana) of Council but you'd never know without watching her.

>> No.14369291

>>14369066
Holox is actually putting out some stuff unlike kronii or sana, la+ herself has so many fucking streams scheduled for this week alone, you can see the difference between work ethics.

>> No.14369302

At least they're all beating Lui right now.

>> No.14369535

>>14369098
>And yes she does not like streaming. Someone sent her an angry SC about her always playing Minecraft off-stream while barely streaming and she basically said that she prefers it because having to keep chat engaged while streaming is just sooo annoying to the point of ruining her enjoyment of the game itself.
Kek. Why did she even apply? Her spot could have gone to someone with actual drive and passion.

>> No.14369713

>>14368856
Bae’s problem is she does not excel at literally ANYTHING. Even Sana with her extremely niche audience is in a better position than her because her fans give SCs.

>> No.14369803

>>14368800
Literally obsessed.

>> No.14369896

>>14368745
This is the cringiest dick measuring contest
"My oshi streams longer than YOUR oshi!"

>> No.14370027

>>14368800
I don't get how that disproves his argument. I'd post it multiple times too if I made something that's high quality OC.

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>>14367843
>ISREAL
Kron used to pull at least 10k views wtf.

>> No.14370064

I used to hate seeing these threads, but now I'm glad they at least act as containment for a bunch of morons.

>> No.14370065

>>14369283
>Fauna is cute and underrated but she doesn't put herself out there. She's the actual gamer (with Sana) of Council but you'd never know without watching her.
I was convinced of that after watching her Skyrim/RE7 streams. I don't give two shits about her ASMR/GFE shit but I will watch her cutely play video games.

>> No.14370209

>>14367843
Fauna's doing fine I guess, but the other two are Niji numbers

>>14368446
They have Holo buff which makes it impossible for them to be bellow the top .1% even if they literally stream paint dry

>> No.14370225

>>14370027
>shows interesting data
>uses the data for baiting pointless dick-measuring contests
Gee, I wonder why people are mocking him anon. It's a mystery.

>> No.14370265

>>14370065
NTA but totally agree, fauna has been a dark horse of council in actually playing games and being fun to watch during them

>> No.14370309

>>14370209
>Fauna's doing fine I guess
For Minecraft thats pretty fucking terrible.

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>>14368426
She used to mog myth.

>> No.14370519

>>14368426
Let's look at it from the point when she got told she played Minecraft too much. She increasingly enjoyed streaming less ever since. Whoever did that SC single handedly ruined her mentalily. If she actually kept playing MC on her own and just had fun, did her normal streams alongside, she would be getting views and be relevant.

>> No.14370596

>>14369199
>Kronii is a natural entertainer
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1KzADbrLnE
Entertaining?

>> No.14370623

>>14370596
Yeah. Just look at her boobs jiggle

>> No.14370638

>>14370033
EN scene is declining in general.

>> No.14370721

Because this was just the latest fad in the west, while it's basically part of Japanese culture.
Once the honeymoon phase has worn off, only the very few loyal fans and the coping ones stuck around. Had Gura debuted as part of council instead, she'd struggle to reach even 1 mil subs. See you for EN3 to basically be like nijiEN

>> No.14370832

>>14370596
It’s impossible to make frostpunk entertaining.

>> No.14370915

>>14367843
Reject ENvtubers
Return to watching clips of Japanese vTubers saying funny thing.

>> No.14370928

>>14370309
Minecraft buff only occurs when you’re on the server. Otherwise it’s a debuff for EN, so that’s actually better than should be expected under those conditions. Last week had both Ame and her getting sub-5k views checking out the new update, while Mumei got over 13k playing on the server.

>> No.14370931

>heckin numbers

>> No.14370940

>>14368446
>ratio
lmao

>> No.14370973

>>14369713
Bae is the most real and extroverted of the Council. She excels in Unity and effort.

>> No.14371037

>>14367843
Why can't you just stay in your containment thread where you jerk each other off over numbers instead of watching streams

>> No.14371059

>>14370638
The other EN corpos numbers are at least stable or even on a moderate incline. Sure, they'll come from a much lower baseline, but it's wrong to want to excuse Councils massive collapse after the honeymoon period wore off with some deflective cope handwaving about how "n-no it's not them specifically that is the problem... the ~EN scene in general~ is all doing worse....", at least without showing evidence for it. If you have the numbers that prove that "the EN scene in general" is down (for example, aggregates for NijiEN, Vshojo, the various startups and noticeable indies, etc.), then submit them.
Otherwise for anyone actually knowledgeable it looks to be a specific HoloEN, especially Council, -problem only.

>> No.14371071

>>14370928
I dont think Minecraft tourists care where they're playing. Its probably some external factor leading to those numbers.

>> No.14371097

>>14369896
its not even dick measuring, its a genuine explanation of why her views are lower than they used to be. She isn't holding audience retention because she doesn't stream enough, simple as.

>> No.14371117

>>14370832
That's the real problem here. Frostpunk is a terrible game for streaming purposes, Kronii should drop it, honestly.

>> No.14371134

Numberfags are such a fucking joke, how small is your brain to be unable to find value in something that doesn't have "big numbers"?
Like, Fubuki is getting 40k viewers doing nothing but fish for a shiny magikarp, but you'll cry when Council is below 5000 and actually doing something fun. You don't even enjoy vtubers, get a new hobby

>> No.14371153

>>14370928
this. Unless Fauna starts taking her speedrun seriously like Fubuki hunting Magikarp.
We will not gonna see Fauna sub-30 until the end of 2022 at this progression. No tourist would wanna see Fauna resetting like a top speedrunner when her personal best is just 2 hours something.
If she can luckily find a partner that can compete with, they can pull out a xQc-vs-Forsen to gain niche soundbite. That might be saving her "speedrun content".

>> No.14371195

>>14371134
2view seethe

>> No.14371210

>Holobronies when the numbers are in their favor: aww yeah, we are the best and the greatest, look and tremble at the might of our amazing viewcounts that prove our superiority!!!

>Holobronies when the numbers are actually going down: w-who cares about numbers anyway, s-shut up and let us just enjoy our heckin streamerinos in peace, no bulli plz...

>> No.14371253

>>14367843
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
council really hired to be Myth and IRyS lapdog

>> No.14371269

>>14369291
>if you hire people who like to stream, they'll stream
Whack.

>> No.14371277

>>14371134
To the contrary, you're brain is small from not seeing the difference between steam topic and delivery. Fubuki is known for drawing in huge viewers for gacha content, because people enjoy it.

People don't enjoy just watching a boring fucking game.

>> No.14371366

>>14371195
Nice, the number-obsessed retard gets told off and all he can reply with is "muh numbers"
Such a fucking joke

>> No.14371429

>>14367843
There are NijiENs who begin to hold higher viewcounts with increasing regularity, while Council continues to slide and slide over time.
Concerning.

>> No.14371512

>>14371097
1. Ayame had 60k people in her return stream, that's not exactly how it works.

2. It's absolutely a pointless dick-measuring contest, anon. You're trying to cover it up after being called out on it by reframing the spreadsheet post as if it wasn't going for a "Gottem" on another person for pointing out how they cherry-picked a specific schedule from October.

>> No.14371689

>>14371153
she should just cheat like a pro

>> No.14371751

HoloEN should be spun off into its own company and merge with NijiEN

>> No.14371930

>>14371071
I think the Minecraft buff comes more from Hololive fans wanting to see interactions between talents, or at least with their creations. Mumei barely knows how to play the game, but people tuned in to watch her struggle to read JP messages, read and act out Reine’s slashfic, and vandalize the bunkeronii.

>> No.14372064

>>14371134
Enjoy your obscure bands 2view. I'm going to listen to lil nas.

>> No.14372172
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>>14369098
>Aussie accent puts everyone off
speak for yourself cunt

>> No.14372176

>>14372064
Based. I'm going to watch Marvel movies and eat McDonald's just to spite 2views

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>>14368426
She was mentally mogged by her own popularity, as an unpopular person she was uncomfortable being BIG and living in the West means it's okay to self-sabotage and fail and then make blogposts about how it's not really your fault.

>> No.14372338

>>14371512
Ayame is the exception that proves the rule

>> No.14372468

>>14372338
That's also not how that works, and the same thing has happened with others like Shion, Miko, Marine, etc. They all had good reasons to be absent for a bit and had huge return streams.

>> No.14372549

>>14372176
You probably already do both of those as well as watch Hololive, yet you make your identity around how obscure your choices are. You're like a child bragging about their exclusive little club to other kids.

>> No.14372566

>>14371059
Myth can still comfortably wipe it’s balls with Nijinigger and vshojo profits. Don’t even try and sneak in the implication that it’s experiencing anyway near the same level of problems that Council is.

>> No.14372603

>>14371429
In fairness, Nijisanji hasn't a limit yet. Meanwhile Hololive is probably never going to hit the high they had with Gura ever again, JP or EN.
I don't think its anything to worry about mind.

>> No.14372652

>>14372549
Nah I watch Nijisanji, eat Burger King and watch DC actually.

>> No.14372653

>>14371071
She did speedrun practice, it filters most MC fags since if you are just here for a game watching streamer to reset world for 67th time in last 15 minutes is not peak gameplay per say

>> No.14372674

Kronii needs to:
-do more collabs because she actually kills it being a straightman to other comedically talented/ gifted members like Gura/hakos/mumei.
-focus on sex. shes literally pure sex. she could gain marine tier views, if she just gave a more sexy image. flex those vocal cords, make lewd sounds, be kinda cute, use your model. she gives her viewers nothing and they are left unrewarded.
it wouldnt even be demeaning, as nearly all of the girls do it, but kronii is too selfconcious.
-reading streams. you have a narrator voice, use it. if people can leave ina drawing streams while they nod off, she could pull massive viewers reading any books
who knows what the copyrighting status even is, on reading books, she could at least read popular noncopyrighted public domain books.

>> No.14372755

>>14372674
forget that, wtf is wrong with sana:
>ame tier debut, never showed that level of creativity and spark again
>also doesnt flex or give fanservice, despite bein the literal giantess/big woman fetish and tries to be cute instead of sexy.
>can literally draw, doesnt do drawing streams

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>>14367843
>Kronii on her way to be MOGGED by Nijiniggers
Kek, what a failure.
Cover really needs to think twice before handing avatars by good artists.
The council was a fucking mistake. Graduation when?
Hopefully we get a proper EN2 next.

>> No.14372978

>>14372652
Understandable.

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>>14371751
No

>> No.14373017

>>14372944
>Kek, what a failure.
Cover really needs to think twice before handing avatars by good artists.
The council was a fucking mistake. Graduation when?
Hopefully we get a proper EN2 next.
I can't decide on one unoriginal bait comment: the post.

>> No.14373140

>>14367843
Anon, Kronii has over 5k viewers right now, at least try not to post shit that can be so easily disproven.

>> No.14373162

Kronii is some nonbinary weirdo so it's not surprising she's mentally ill.

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