/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I mean no one should be comfortable building an audience from this community unless it's their sole goal to suck the money out of the majority-shitstains festering here.

I am fine with /here/chuubas because they suck up retarded containment breakers that could have been shitting up an actual passionate vtuber. It's like dropping shitposters off at daycare. The funny bear is on kids, go to class

>>14304255
beatani is literally more passionate about vtubing than 99% of corpos

>>14304563
Go back to your Discord.

>>14304563
no she isnt

>>14304563
She also acts more retarded than 95% of corpos because she tries to appeal to this place.

I hate people that only played Yakuza 0 and not the rest of the franchise so much.

>reddit vtubers
>twitter vtubers
>facebook vtubers
>gaia vtubers
>tumblr vtubers

Seen them all, and I will go to /here/ vtubers any time. Everyone belongs somewhere and I like people who pander to ME.
I RULE THE SCENE

>>14304934
I feel the same Grooposter

>>14304108
Because not everyone is a 12 year old like you.
They actually understand something called "being subtle".
You'll understand when your balls drop.

Babetani is so fucking hot and cool I want her to throw me over her strong African shoulders and carry me into the sunset. You just don't understand the appeal of a bear-ly functioning adult with the mind of a 15 year old.

>>14305285
Thanks fellow Megaten appreciator

>>14304563
Lol no

>>14304108
That's pretty based if she asked her viewers to jerk off.

>>14304563
Maybe I can appreciate the grift of a woman. She wants your attention, she wants your money, but she will never want you. That's all vtubers, it's just that they bewitch their niche to think otherwise. The only people that aren't getting fooled are the ones knowing they are supporting a male streamers life style for them to continually stream for long hours every day.

>>14304108
Because they take their feedback directly from schizos LARPing as managers

>>14304108
It's not a coincidence that this, and nowhere else - not Reddit, not Twitter, not even FB or KF - is called a containment place. Trying to pander to a bunch of shitposters who don't even take themselves seriously isn't a good recipe to be interesting unless you are aiming for the teen audience

This is akin to asking "why are only poor people eating expired food from trash cans?"

It's because if you are talented and capable, you don't need to scour for viewers from the deepest pits of the schizozone to escape the 0view hell.

>>14305355
nothing about beatani or pyon is subtle. you're the one who needs to have their balls drop, /here/tubers right now are nothing more than pandering whores. what i want to see is people who actually enjoy and appreciate 4chan, not some cunt who's realised that 4chan is an easy way to secure a viewership

>>14305824
Beatani has a lot more talents and is more capable than most corpos, though, so I don't think that's it.

>>14305951
if she's so talented why does she need to shill constantly?

>>14305831
Lots of Holos were 2views on nico pandering to a very specific audience as well.

>>14305831
equating pyon and yah is retarded
The only reason why pandering is being brought up is this board keeps biting “anti holo “ bait hard with someone trying to make it sound like the bear ins infallible when she is far from it>>14304563

>>14305991
She's talented but has crippling laziness and poor work ethic when it's something she's not excited about.

>>14306069
who cares about the reason why pandering is being brought up

Let's compare.

Beatani:
>can rig
>can draw
>can 3D model (soon)
>can play several music instruments
>can produce her own music
>can speak english

Your average top billed corpo:
>can uhm say peko at the end of every other sentence
>can stream once every 2 months
>can make a passable loli voice to fit the model some random designer/rigger made for her
>can autotune

Clearly corpos are the future.

>>14306206
>Clearly corpos are the future.
yeah. try comparing sub count instead

>>14306206
Anon, you cherry picked so hard you couldn't even stick with a single VTuber in your top-billed corpo comparison, c'mon now.

>>14305951
She might be more talented in other aspects, but clearly not as an entertainer. Unfortunately, VTubers are entertainers, not designers, artists, or gamers

>>14306296
/thread

>>14306296
>thing happens
>TASUKETE MINNA
>NEEEEEEE
>*has menhera breakdown*

top entertainer indeed

Corpos are too soulless

>>14306294
List at 6 hard and measurable talents Pekora has.

>>14306376
>calling anyone else menhera while defending the Discord bear

>>14306376
There are worst vtubers than Bea, doesn't mean Bea is suddenly less shit.

>>14306376
>Clipwatcher.jpg

Matsuri is very talented, she can make black hands appear out of nowhere behind her.

>>14306376
People are entertained by it, so why not?

>>14306117
That applies to corpos too, only difference is that corpo chuubas are forced to work while a NEET can do fuck all and jack off to chinese cartoons

>>14305951
Her personality is shit. Watching her is like actually being here.

>>14306557
Must be useful for theft.

>>14305831
Motherfucker that Bear is less of a newfag than you are and she's only been browsing the place a year.
She was on imageboards and textboards when you were in kindergarten.
I can smell your type a fucking mile away. Go back to your containment, then go back to the red alien site whence you came.

>>14304108
Is this the same one that got rolled by KFP?

>>14307991
you're a delusional retard that would probably believe anything she said. for an oldfag she sure spends a lot of time on twitter and discord

>>14308106
>nooooo, stop, reeee, stop using SNS!!!!! muh nonimus!!!
Kill yourself, dumb raid kiddie.

>>14308086
no, beatani would make short work of kfprannies though

>>14308156
>bros she an oldfag believe me
>she browsed 2chan on stream once bro believe me

>>14304108
Why do you think having a thread here = following local schizo anon every wish?
If you checked her content, she doesn't pander to /vt/ the vast majority of the time. The only "pandering" is the words she uses since she learned English reading the threads.

>>14308242
I love how you leave out the things she actually knows. Not that you would know, dumb drama tourist.

>>14308284
Actual white knight. You can keep defending her image as le epic oldfag all you want, she's never sucking your dick.
She was confused on why people would be against a discord, didn't understand how it contradicted with 4chan at all. She only started disliking it because chat told her to
>muh nominus
Ok retard.

>>14308498
You are a newfag. You will forever be a newfag. You've never known the real 4chan, and you never will.
You are an invader, a cancer.

>>14304108
You've made like at least 7 of those baits threads in the last 2 days, what did she do to you? Then you samefag all thread long posting as a fan and baiting holofags.

>>14304108
>>14276601
>>14148900
>>14192297
>>14148352
>>14146059
>>14148874

>>14308574
nice filename newfag

>>14308647
He's a /trash/ shitposter.

>>14308662
I was the one that took that and uploaded it. I have a hard drive, multiple hard drives, filled with archived threads before all you dumb children found this place.
I bet you don't even know about /con/ either. Oh boy are you in for a shock.

>>14306117
Wow, almost as though that’s the reason people hate certain corpos who initially show talent and capability, but don’t live up to it.

>>14308574
>an invader, a cancer.
Then feel free to welcome "oldfags" like beatani with open arms. Additionally, If you appreciate tripfags so much then you should become one.

>>14308647
a thread featuring a beatani tweet can't really be considered bait, she did that to herself. but yeah sure continue to blame anti samefags when it's clearly desperate and jealous dads trying to capitalise off seething holotards

>The same guy making all these anti threads thinks he is privileged since he has been here for almost 20 years
Dads, I'm sorry I share an age with people like this

>>14308799
The fact you type like that is proof of such.
An invader, a cancer, the ruin of this site. A total faggot.
It's funny when newfags try to say they know 4chan and hate named identities when this site spawned from 3 communities that were all name-focused. Always hilarious.
Here's a little history lesson for you, cunt, moot was tricked in to forcing anonymous by someone that tried to, and successfully did kill this site multiple times. Hopefully the weeb cunt hung himself.

I don't have any problems with Beatani but her fans are fucking annoying. I think she's clearly talented and good at pandering to you morons

>>14308993
If she was good at pandering she would have more fans. She's an anti magnet because she deliberately shitposts to annoy people.
It's one of her good qualities.

>>14305831
There's actual organic femanons slapping you in the face, at least be a man and say you think a female /here/tuber can be anything but pandering, you won't be alone in thinking that way

>>14308949
Site quality is so much better with bitter and reminiscing oldfags like yourself.
Again, if you're anti anonymous then why aren't you using a trip?

>>14309123
Who said I am anti anonymous? That's your retarded implication. Why the fuck would I still be here? Just to suffer?
I took advantage of trips to shitpost my little heart out and that is something you newfags will never get to experience. I had a list of so many trips I can't even remember, at least 30 odd.

>>14304108
>It's like women can't fully comprehend board culture and just think it's funny to borrow buzzwords from /vt/.
>I want to watch a vtuber willing to have their channel terminated for saying nigger or for browsing 4chan on stream.
I've been browsing for more than a decade and I've rarely had the need to even swear when posting because it adds nothing interesting to my comment. I could put on a trip and discuss stuff that's occurred on /a/ or /jp/ while browsing, and I'd probably come off as a newfaggot regardless because I think 4chan actually has more substance than the place to be based.

Anyone can just say nigger nigger nigger and get the nimrod, some girl doing it is nothing different.
I think you're just looking for streamers being edgy above anything else, or don't care about content besides that.

>>14309194
>I took advantage of trips to shitpost my little heart out and that is something you newfags will never get to experience. I had a list of so many trips I can't even remember, at least 30 odd.
Thanks, that makes you much more respectable and compelling. I'm sorry for ever doubting you, retard.

>>14309123
Also, thanks for admitting you are a newfag. Good one, retard.

>>14305831
Imagine comparing the two and showing your ignorance

Beatani is a 2ch used who came visiting here once and got a surprisingly good reception. She learned English reading (and shitposting) the threads anonymously. Her streams aren't related to /vt/, and stuff like outfit contest, creating a fake vtuber, zatsudan to teach anecdotes about Japan etc.
She's doesn't care about anons opinions and made clear she's gonna do what she want and people are free to stay or leave. Yeah she doesn't follow the "culture" here but never said or hinted she would.

Kiki however, tried making threads before even having a character at all to get attention, but those got deleted so she chose instead to advertise herself in other threads like /yah/ and /nade/ and selfposted there. Replying to every tweets of /here/vtubers to gather clout. In her first week she was sending DM to all vtubers here for collab, despite having 0 experience. Posting a screenshot of being banned for racism because you know, that's so based right. She parroted anything that sounded like the board popular opinion, forced racism/tranny jokes constantly to show how based she is, Right from the start she took literally any bait posted in the thread, promised to stop all DM but business ones when anons got jealous, Literally self-post with vocaroos all the time, even go in unrelated threads to self-posts about herself (https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/14114800/#14118820).). She's the most fake GFE shit you can find trying to act like your cool edgy 4chan gf.

a true heretuber knows to create just enough plausible deniability to drive us mad.
https://streamable.com/2mdj71

>>14305765
But Beatani maint trait is how stubborn she is and how she ignores all feedback...

If you all were locked in an office with only drinking water and not allowed to leave until you could agree on what you actually want out of a streamer who uses /vt/ (and get it), you would all die of starvation.

>>14309268
>Respectable and compelling
Don't forget #relatable

>>14309479
Hell, she even goes out of her way to shit on manager faggots and they get all pissy about it.
Her thread is more antis than anything, everyone else fucked off to Twitter and Discord when it was made. I don't even go to the threads any more, no use, everyone is just bitter, depressed and shitty, all the good people left. "Good".

>>14308927
It's in bad faith, tweets are intended at their audience becasue the audience has context about the author. Anyone who knows even a bit about Beatani knows this is an obvious satire and ofc she doesn't think it's easy to be taken in Hololive, I can't believe I even have type out something so obvious. But yeah, threads made out of a tweet are fucking cancer and mostly used to stir shit by removing any context and removing it from its intended audience.

>>14308993
She's the opposite of pandering honestly, that's why many left as she kept ignoring anons' demands. The only "pandering" is from picking up vt vocabulary and some jokes. Aside from that, good luck making her follow any of your wish.

>>14309669
Beatani made that tweet because she lurks here and saw the other thread baiting hololive fans. She made that tweet baiting out the "antis" hoping they would make a thread about, probably because she thought it would be funny.

>>14309826
>beatani was the seaniggers

>>14309826
This. Dads constantly juggle between "beatani is here she loves shitposting and samefagging" to "oh nyoo the heckin antis samefags are making threads again!". Like, make up your mind.

Well, being "on" /vt/ isn't compelling on it's own, even if they turned off all monetization and made a thread the dedicated chat and used trips.

Why would you expect that anyone (including guys) making /vt/ threads and reaching out directly would be much different from elsewhere?

>>14304108
/here/ vtubers suck exactly because they are /here/.

>>14304108
I like them more than I like corporate shit. You will actually be loved by a heretuber too. You will never be loved by a corporate entity.

>>14304255
You say as if that's a bad thing lmao
>>14304563
This. Thread should have ended here.

>>14305831
The amount of Reddit in this post is pathetic

>>14304206
Hololive does this anyway and nijisanji to a lesser extent, but community managers shilling for 'the company' probably flies under your radar opposed to 2views doing their own dirty work.

>>14311295
>You will actually be loved by a heretuber too
kek. the absolute state of 2viewfags right here

>>14306206
Counterpoint: Rhombus Rigger for Shark
Checkmate, Holofag

>>14306376
BASED
>>14306296
Holy Fucking Reddit, Batman. Go back.

>>14306557
Based
>>14305951
Thread should have ended right here. Ignore the bootlicking corporocucks seething at you.

>>14307991
/thread
>>14308106
>>14308498
Stop trying to fit in newfag

>>14304108
You think that's bad? Try vtubers who pander to kiwifarms.

>>14308647
Because Beatani is objectively better than any corporate whore and we as a board need to remind everyone here of where the fuck they are. Corporate whore enablers belong on Reddit. Not 4chan.

>>14311680
>we

>>14308927
/thread
>>14309669
Go back retard
>>14311655
Nothing wrong with that fag

>>14306117
Talent without work ethic doesn't mean anything once you're an adult. Maybe she could win her class talent show in middle school or something. But once you're past 18 (or even 15 I'd argue), work ethic will beat talent every time, and "talent" becomes meaningless

>>14311736
Yes "we," newfag. If you unironically like corporate whore trash you don't belong on this website. The fact that you're a seething Holotard just makes a bigger fool of yourself lmao

>>14311680
...why reddit and not YouTube or Twitch?

>>14311895
They literally only bootlick corporate whores on Reddit. YouTube and Twitch allow you to like whatever the fuck you want and users are way more based. Also go back already.

>>14311814
Liking or disliking corporate whores isn't something that stops people from posting.
God forbid people who disagree with you exist in the same space.

>>14311940
stop badmouthing reddit you fucking nigger

>>14306206
Let's compare.

Beatani:
>6.63K subscribers

Pekora:
>1.8M subscribers

That's more than 270 times more. Almost like Pekora is actually a good streamer, and Beatani is not

>>14309341
Kinda based tbqhwyfamalam

>>14304108
/here/ doesn't mean a chuuba should act -like- us.

>>14311940
Dude, how do you expect them to stream just using reddit?
>I don't know go back-
Not everything you dislike is conveniently associated with just one website.

>>14306376
t. EOP

>>14305266
Based

>>14311972
You've been told you're a newfag for around 30 minutes in this thread already. I suggest you lurk moar or go back.
>>14311980
>you WILL worship the echo chamber just like where I came from!
Cringe. Probably a Holofag who shilled meme review in this board's infancy.
>>14311985
>wholesome and relatable shitposting girl who will always love you vs. corporate whore and offpako queen
lol, get a load of this cuck

>>14311814
I'm a day 1 viewer of bea and previously hiding my 2view jp indies in /vyt/ on jp, I dislike watching corpos
>>14311972
he's a falseflag who has been posing as a proud beatani fan for a while, non-stop saying the most provocative stuff he can to bait holofags. If the blatant >we posting saying the whole board should go back didn't make it obvious.

>>14304108
4channers don't have desirable or high value traits
>openly racist
>obnoxious, repetitive memes
>constantly have to reveal their power level to show that yes, they are a cool 4channer from the epic internet hate machine
>never fucking shut up, and constantly try to act tough online
nu-4channers are redditors but worse. imagine if redditors constantly talked about or alluded to browsing fucking reddit and made it their entire personality. this is every /here/tuber and it's why they are shit. if you want 4chan, you would just go to 4chan, so why signal so hard outside of 4chan? nobody cares but it makes you an annoying retard

there was a reason oldfags abode by rules 1 & 2

>>14312085
YWNBJ
>>14312057
Stop trying fitting in already newfag. You've been told to go back countless times.

>>14312118
>lol, get a load of this cuck
She only cares about >you because she's small, that's how small vtubers work

>>14311985

>>14312159
>YWNBJ
No need to be to appreciate Rushia's streams though

>>14312133
Dilate Holotranny
>>14312131
>putting words in my mouth
No. The corporate bootlickers have to go back. That's it.

>>14312175
And that's why we like her more here and it's platonic love by the way. Go back.

>Dilate Holotranny
now take this personality outside of 4chan and you have a perfect example of what I'm talking about. the point of a community is that it's supposed to be a secret club, don't fucking act like a 4channer outside of 4chan. don't use 4chan terminology, stop advertising 4chan, stop bringing in newfags. gatekeep and the quality of the community will go up. gatekeeping is ALWAYS good.

>>14312202
>watching a menhera masketta man fucker unironically
Cringe. Show me your BLACKED.com subscription in your next post cuckold faggot.

>>14312251
>Go back.
Says the fan of someone trying to ride the vtuber wave on fucking 4chan of all places

>>14312133
>openly racist
>constantly have to reveal their power level to show that yes, they are a cool 4channer from the epic internet hate machine
>this is every /here/tuber
... but that's only kiki?
Neither nade nor beatani do this, beatani just learned english by reading the thread so it sometimes shows in her vocabulary, but that's about it.

>>14304108
Reine is /here/ and she doesn't suck

>>14312262
YWNBAW you fucking freak of nature

>>14305831
>what i want to see is people who actually enjoy and appreciate 4chan
I will not answer this question because if you've been into this place long enough, you'll fucking hate it and vtubers who enjoy 4chan don't constantly pander to the place

>>14312118
>You've been told you're a newfag for around 30 minutes in this thread already. I suggest you lurk moar or go back.
1. That was my first response.
2. On a brief warosu search this my first post I can easily find: >>/jp/thread/S14466585#p14492564
3. I don't give a rip where someone fucking browses if they have something interesting to say, which you seem to lack beyond labeling dissenting comments as outsiders.

>>14312301
>watching a menhera masketta man fucker unironically
She's a better entertainer than your meme bear will ever be. Go try to promote your 2view elsewhere

>>14312357
and you will never be human, a pity we tolerate your repulsive kind in modern society instead of doing the needful and taking the barrel of a rifle to your head

>>14304108
>I want to watch a vtuber willing to have their channel terminated for saying nigger or for browsing 4chan on stream.
Oof the edge.

>>14312323
I've been here since 2004 you mouthbreather.

>>14312456
Better than Chink and Kike backed corporations you bootlick, Holonigger.

>>14312486
Cool, do you want a big boy medal or something? Funny how you apply your same shitty reasoning to everything. "Beatani is more talented so she should have more success than the corpos, but she doesn't, the world is unfair, she's the one that should succeed. I've been here since 2004 so I should be right, even though my opinions are absolute dogshit, you can't tell me to go back". How can you not understand, after 17 years on a 4chan, that what matters is not what's deep inside or whatever but the appearance? Beatani sucks at being a streamer, Pekora is great at it. That's it. That's the end of the discussion. It's unfair? Grow up

>>14312445
She still puts more effort and has infinitely more sanity than that whore and you know it, Holonigger.

>>14312638
>Chink and Kike backed corporations
Inventing stuff now?

>>14312486
I've been here since 2004 and I'm never right about anything.

>>14312640
Holy shit stop posting faggot. There's a reason why you're called a newfag

>>14312710
Putting more effort is meaningless if you don't get results, how hard is it to understand?

>>14312778
The only person calling me a newfag is you, since you have no argument except "I've wasted 17 years of my life on this place"

>>14312751
Their creative director is literally a Chink you faggot. And let's not pretend the Jews have shares in them either faggot.
>>14312769
That's because you have a newfag mentality, newfag.

>>14312640
you keep replying to the most obvious of falseflag, trying his hardest to piss you off....

>>14312825
>Having a chink in your company means it's chink-backed
Maybe learn the meaning of words before using them?

>>14312792
Because Bea makes us happy and the menhera corporate whore makes Redditor newfaggots like (You) happy. Simple as.

>>14312880
Okay, what does that have to do with having more talent or anything like that? She has a niche, that's obvious. It's a very small niche. What's your point?

Man this entire thread is ass

>>14312860
>It's just a troll bro!

>>14312860
>thinking I'm falseflagging
Nigger, Day 1 I've been reminding Holobronies they're clearly not wanted on this board for obvious reasons. If they didn't throw a fucking dilation party towards /aog/ then maybe I'd be kinder to them. But anything that makes them seethe is what the heart of this board backs. I am the spiritual leader and you can thank me later because I am simply the board's gatekeeper. Go back Holotranny. You've overstayed your welcome here.

>>14312880
>pose as someone from a fanbase you hate
>be the most obnoxious faggot and bait the biggest fanbase on the board
works every time uh
>>14312927
it's a fucking falseflag dude, pleease think for 2 sec, he's literally >us posting

>>14312638
>I WANT VTUBERES WHO ARE WILLING TO GET THEIR LIVELIHOODS DESTROYED BECAUSE I WANT IT REEEEEEEEEEEEE
You never had a job.

>>14312486
I've been here since 2004 and I don't feel the need to push different vtubers against each other. Nor I have the need to spam buzzwords because I have nothing to say.

>>14312961
/vt/ is the Hololive board though, are you lost?

>>14312955
Yes and the fact so man people fall for it is depressing, it's so blatant

>>14312456
Yeah, on its own that's something anyone could do and wouldn't be entertaining for long.
I think it there's more a tug-of-war between people wanting genuineness/basedness and personas/skills that are entertaining as media.
I feel like OP wants the vtuber equivalent of sseth or something, maybe more risque.

>>14312638
Them being backed by literally whatever group is secondary to why that particular company sucks, since holo/niji/vshojo all have different compromises in their talent that wouldn't necessarily change much with the particular backers.
And if you care so much about them being chink or kike backed, doesn't that imply there think there are better sources of backing, rather than just disliking corporations?

>>14312927
>very small niche
You're underestimating the outreach 4chan has on an entire generation of Internet users and actual people, faggot. Many people are simply anti-status quo. It's amazing you live in a bubble where you're force-fed corporate trash and bootlick those who put the little guy in shambles.

>>14313008
coming here and complaining about hololive is like going to pol and complaining about racism

>>14313030
If you think Beatani will appeal to everyone that 4chan appeals to you're delusional

>It's amazing you live in a bubble where you're force-fed corporate trash and bootlick those who put the little guy in shambles.
You really think Beatani's lack of success is due to other people? She just doesn't have that much appeal. That's it

>>14304563
This is what shizos actually believe

But of course, since you're delusional enough that you think you're a chuuba's friend lol

>>14313071
Even that would make more sense, as technically there's global rule 3

>>14306427
> List an absurd amount of talents because listing her strongest talent would actually hurt my feelings.
I laughed, thanks anon.

>>14313030
>Many people are simply anti-status quo.
That says nothing about what they stand, support, cultivate, or do beyond grinding an axe.
The supposed bubble you talk about has more substance by being a bubble.

>>14312133
>4channers

>>14312981
based meg's mom enjoyer
unlikely but I kinda hope they meet some day
>>14312955
it is, he always try to trigger holofags while using >we >us and being a retard, it's by-the-book falseflagging, you can't make it more obvious.

>>14313030
>You're underestimating the outreach 4chan has on an entire generation of Internet users and actual people
kek are you a /pol/tard? who believes this shit

>>14313300
>>14313256
>>14313103
How cannot you tell that >>14313030 is a fucking larper?
When writing
>You're underestimating the outreach 4chan has on an entire generation of Internet users and actual people
you should instantly be able to tell it's shitposting on purpose while posing as another fanbase

>>14313300
>who believes this shit
Election tourists, and "but the memes!!" people

>>14313361
I don't find it productive to assume that people are falseflagging/lying, it turns every discussion into baseless accusations on both sides. Not that this one is any better

>>14313361
Oh, that's probable.
I just never concern myself with the identity of anonymous posters.

>>14313361
I can't believe so many people genuinely fall for bait that obvious. There is no way.
>>14313424
The one single fag using >we while posing as a beatani viewer, only doing it in bait threads while insulting hololive, never seen around the thread once, yeah, cool.

>>14313518
As a long time fan I....

>>14313518
I don't have a mental index of everyone that posts on this board

>>14313030
> You're underestimating the outreach 4chan has on an entire generation of Internet users and actual people, faggot.
4chan was and will always be the big scary site where 15 year old nazis go to talk about fucking anime girls in the normie’s mind. Did 4chan have an impact on internet culture? Totally. Do people even know 4chan had a big impact? Fuck no. Whether you like it or not, pandering to this place of all places is a fucking career suicide for any entertainers who aim to actually make it. Even if they distance themselves from this community, not only will the schizos never leave them alone, but some retard will constantly dig up old clips of them to make them look bad until they have to graduate. This place is a fucking shithole, and /vt/ of all boards is fucking abandoned. Go in any generals and look at the number of posters, it will rarely go above 100.

>>14313618
>Go in any generals and look at the number of posters, it will rarely go above 100.
Isn't that most boards that aren't /v/?

>>14313618
>and /vt/ of all boards is fucking abandoned
https://4stats.io/
By who?

>>14308647
I mean, if you're obsessed enough and have nothing else going on your life, why not? All of his threads were successful, just like all the Selen/Gura/etc. bait threads are successful.
This board is easier to influence than a small child.

>>14304108
Anon I wish I could have come up with that thread. The amount of seething generated by the /here/ schizos is beautiful. They truly get defensives when you call out their whores for what they are: talentless whores.

>>14313682
Oh but yeah it's not just him, the fact so so many holofags can get baited so easily is a pretty sad sight.

>>14313148
He's right you fucking tourist

>>14313618
Yeah. If a vtuber really wants to pander to some site, it has to be reddit or twitter.
4chan is just too shitty.

>>14313700
>They truly get defensives when you call out their whores for what they are: talentless whores.
lmao what's OP's vtuber talent anyway
become edgy?

Anon I wish I could have come up with that thread. The amount of seething generated by the holofags is beautiful. They truly get defensives when you call out their whores for what they are: talentless whores.

>>14312981
based

>>14314908
so you like niji?

>>14305266
Gaia still exists?

Thread is super gay

>>14304108
It's because this entire website is shit
It's full of shit people with shit opinions and shit humor desperately trying to convince themselves and others that they're the only ones who aren't shit

>>14311680
>objectively better
then why doesn't she get views?

>>14313229
>absurd
it's the same amount bea has

>>14313618
Sometimes /vt/ activity rivals /pol/, as well as being the #1 fastest board when events are happening. Still, that means as a /here/chuuba you are limited to 4chan and 4chan adjacent fans only as it will be a filter to everyone else. If you want a small /here/ community then that's fine (even if it's directly pandering and containment breaking) but if a vtuber wants to grow, they've effectively shot themselves in the foot if they make their content revolve around /vt/.

>>14316589
>Why doesn't this movie sell as many tickets as capeshit if it is better?
>Why doesn't this game sell as much as Call of Duty if it is better?
Corporate sheeple everyone.

>>14315110
A little. But I hate corporations in general. Selen and Nina are pretty based.

>>14315309
>defending talentless Holowhores unironically
Gigacringe
>>14316589
Just because McDonald's is the #1 restaurant in the world doesn't mean it's good, cuck

>>14317170
The more active the board the more screencap worthy shit there is.

>>14304563
This guy is actually right, look at this, you can see her dedication just by her Youtube page

>>14304563
tpbp

>>14305831
So how'd you find this place? Through /v/ during Gamergate, or through /pol/ during the 2016 election?

>>14305831
Cringe

>>14305831
based. you made them seethe

>>14305831
These niggers always forget all the women that pump and dump 4chan.

>>14319862
Because we're right. This is Bea's community you're in. You're free to be right in your Discord, kike.
>>14319971
Nigga I still fap to Boxxy 12 years later.

>>14309944
>beatani making 7 or 8 threads about her in 2 days
yeah yah that’s sooooo possible

Cute beatani thread

>>14304108
Bea is the gateway to bizzare japanese board since she knew all about 2ch 4ch 5ch. In game sometimes she has a stroke of genius and beat a hard section first time playing.

>>14304108
>I want someone to selfdestruct
for what purpose?
>>14308574
christ, I remember when the board list was that short.
>>14312357
YWNBAM
>>14313300
so you assume that every fag out on the internet at large who misuses "weeb" is from 4chan and remembers when /b/ originally started the wordfilter "weeaboo" (as a case example)? boy, have you a lot to learn, you sweet summer child. this shithole has never been le ebin sekrit klub. 4chan has always leaked across the internet, and by now half the internet spouts shit that started here without a clue how it got into their lexicon.
90% of the people in this thread need to take their meds and lurk moar.

>>14317270
>>14317642
Lmao I love this fallacy because it requires you to pretend like all popular things are popular solely because they're backed by large companies; dozens of indie movies, games, musicians etc manage to become popular and gain fanbases; dozens of mom and pop restaurants manage to be come famous and grow loyal a costumer base because they're "objectively" better and thus disprove the dichotomy you're trying to force
But you have to close your eyes and pretend like they don't exist to cope with the fact your favorite indie chuuba is a dime a dozen 2view whore who "objectively" isn't worth shit and "objectively" irrelevant outside of her 4chan circlejerk

>>14328236
you' re all a bunch of fucking crybaby faggots, it' s so easy to make you fall for cheap bait you idiots.

>>14328236
Way to completely miss the fucking point. Holoshit isn't even remotely good and Beatani is talented than all of the untalented whores that infest Holoshit. One will actually acknowledge you, love you, and is genuinely cute and funny. The others are talentless corporate products that will never love you and never acknowledge you. It's that fucking simple. You want to be respected, stop being a cuck and actually follow those that will pay attention to you and not their boyfriend they're fucking behind the charade.
>>14329412
>thinking I was baiting
What is with you faggots and assuming that any contrarian post is bait?

Anyone who puts all their eggs into the 4chan basket as a vtuber is a braindead fucking moron who desserves everything coming to them. The majority of the viewers you will attract when you market yourself as "the /vt/ vtuber" are broke as fuck, mentally unstable, and obsessive not in the way that makes good consistent viewers, but more in the "if you ever do anything that upsets me I will dedicate my entire life to harassing you and never get tired of it". Anyone who wants a 4chan vtuber who embodies some warped view of the sites culture and history and boils all of it down to being edgy and saying nigger is the worst possible fan you could ever attract, and these stupid fucks want to build their entire audience of that? You even see the cannerys in the colemine when you look into the history of the threads of these vtubers, they are hotbeds of obsessive schizobabble and every tiny thing turning into a raging trashfire of drama

>>14330499
Go back

>>14330499
Still more stable than anyone in Menheralive lmao

>>14330499
Dilate

>>14304108
She legit gets more money spent on reddit awards than she does in SCs

>>14331185
>unironically giving money to JewTube
No thanks also Bea says I shouldn't either so fuck off cuck

>>14308574
God damn I miss old 4chan.

The only people who defend Beatani on this website are her groomers.

>>14330499
im glad someone said what was on my mind. its no wonder vtubers only pander by making small references because anything more would make vt way too attached

>constantly gaslighting her audience with jokes at their expense
>her discord groomers keep gloating about being in her inner circle
I'm glad I stopped watching.

>>14331605
Or just people who want an authentic VTuber that doesn't follow a corporate code and is actually cute and funny.
>>14331804
You're a fag bro

>>14330499
This. Anyone who says otherwise is a delusional groomer

>>14330499
Fucking based.

>>14307991
>she has been here for like a year

>>14309341
>forced racism/tranny jokes constantly to show how based she is
What's wrong with that?
https://files.catbox.moe/wqvod7.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/hu9ugd.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/m1hhil.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/h2xkig.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/j2uqyx.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/q7scqz.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/depj26.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/ijvyby.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/jz2eae.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/2kizt7.mp4

Can't wait for her to pull a Nyanner ...

>>14336488
lmao

>>14336488
I miss her old model...

>>14304108
Because they pander to anons

Because they love cucking their fans.
https://twitter.com/beatanichisato2/status/1468902362006065152

Who do we got so far that actually use the chans and even showed themselves here or used a chan site, i believe it's koopa, beatani, and kiki? Out of those 3 i think only koopa has broken out cause she doesn't out right go schizo and isn't full autist from what i have seen at least compared to the people here. I don't think she mentions the board on stream at all either, does she? We got some vtubers from small corpos who are /here/ with i think lumi being the most obvious one with divegrass. Even then those groups hardly pander outside of being GFE or accidental GFE and somewhat edgy.

Any trying to actively capture this audience is fucking retarded or brain damaged. I say nigger with friends but never on my socials and I bet you some of the /here/ vtubers do but aren't THAT brain damaged so they wouldn't appeal to you

>>14309341
kiki is braindead and will forever be a 2view if she keeps it up with being schizo, beatani is an idiot and her own brain is holding her back she needs a manager or something to get decent growth.

>>14339698
Kiki doesn't seem to be interested in growth

>>14304108
i dont know if vtubers that post here are shitty or not because i dont watch any of them, but i like a bit of distance between me and the vtubers i watch, personally.

>>14304108
/here/vtubers suck because, for the most part, /here/ sucks. Sorry to break it to you.

Hint: if you want to beat corpos, become a more stable, interesting and less menhera prone vtuber, which is the exact opposite of what /here/ vtubers are doing. If I wanted to watch a grownup throw tantrums over childrens video games and other more popular streamers, I'd go watch DSP.

>>14304108
The problem with /here/ chubas is rhat they don't understand that chubas are supposed to be fueling board culture, not pandering to or regurgitating it.

You were saying OP?
https://twitter.com/BasedBug/status/1466846461887496205
Yes, I know she isn't truly /here/ because she doesn't pander very hard, but she does lurk.

>>14340158
nobody wants a to watch a child

>>14342557

>>14339698
Koopa seems alright. The most I remember is chatting in Holofightz while not trying to take the spotlight. She just plays along with twitch chat 100%, and then leaves when she has to go.

>>14336488
Based I love kiki now

What people seem to miss (at least people with brains, not discord underages) is that being or not being /here/, in /vt/ specifically, doesnt mean anything regarding a vtuber being good or bad.

What means something is if a vtuber is a real oldfag /here/ from other boards (no matter corpo or indie), then that vtuber can have interesting, obscure choices for games, conversation, mindset etc that you wouldn't find anywhere else. That is the real value. A closer mentality and interesting choices for other oldfags.

Regarding Beatani, despite not being a 4chan oldfag, she's a jp imageboard oldfag and shares a lot of the mindset, experiences, memes and such with the old western side (MMDs, MADs, early vocaloid, NND, haruhi, yume nikki etc) so it works.


Just being in /vt/ doesnt mean anything. /vt/ has very little culture, it's almost as fragmented as /vg/, with the fanbases fighting each other. Shitposting is as rampant as /v/ or whatever low powerlevel barrier of entry garbage board.
And it's filled with reddit and discord retards who think they are edgy for being in /vt/.

>>14339886
If only /here/ was better
We get the chubas we deserve

>>14345247
>/vt/ has very little culture
So much this. Vtubers as a hobby is the most shallow, fleeting, substanceless thing ever. "Being in /vt/" is just being anons reacting to streamers reacting to actual content (usually a videogame). The "culture" that can generate from that depends entirely on the streamer and their audience. For something to be known board-wide you have to basically spam the catalog with it, otherwise people just stay in their generals talking about the streamers they like. This means there are different types of /here/ since each general is its own self-contained world with different culture. At that point, the term /here/ means nothing.

HI LUMI
NIGGER :)

>>14304934
I only played yakuza 0, and I don't give the slightest fuck about playing the other ones

>>14339698
Beatani is inclining you don't know what you're talking about.
>>14339886
Leave
>>14340012
What a terrible analogy. DSP and the Holowhores are almost the exact same streamer.
>>14345247
>reddit spacing
>all that text for things that the average /vt/ user does not have to know
wew
>>14349526
Go back faggot

>>14342751
If you take the three or four big /here/ vtubers and compare them, Koopa is by leaps and bounds the most sane and stable. She never mentions her connection on stream or on social media, she very early on bucked trends and moved to the platform that allowed her to actually network properly with the wider EN vtuber community instead of sticking to HoloLARPing on a platform not suited for independent creators, and any time she engages in any kind of even vaguely based takes its subtle and just naturally comes up in conversation with chat instead of being an out-of-nowhere tangent clearly made to pander.

>>14345247
/vt/ absolutely has a culture, tourist. It's perfect for screencapping the schizos, idolfags, and corporate bootlickers and that's what makes this place one giant shitpost for the rest of us.

>>14326355
It always cracks me up when people think 4chan was some secret hacker club. Fucking dumb raid kiddies.
This site was known by every damn community on the internet on its 2nd year.
It had MULTIPLE convention panels for crying out loud. They are all over Youtube.
It boggles the mind, it really does.
Then you have the faggots trying to revise history out the ass, history that is right on this very site on the news archive kek

>>14335669
Yes? What's wrong with that statement?
Are you one of those fags that think "newfag" had anything to do with time browsed?
Newfag was a mentality - the mentality that didn't fit in with the overarching hivemind of the site.

>>14351097
>/vt/ schizos and idolfags
pretty much /r9k/, who are laughed at by the whole site
>corporate bootlickers
pretty much what killed /g/

Add /v/ console wars (vtubing company edition) and politics, and /vt/ has most kinds of cancer currently available on the site

>>14304108
a chuuba has to be a different level of desperate to even think of pandering to this shithole

>>14351366
4chan is the most influential website in cultural history. I think anyone with a brain knows this.
>>14351605
Except Holoshit deserves to be made fun of at every opportunity possible. They currently have a chronic truant that's easy to harass and it's fun.

>>14351774
>desperate
Oh like the fake crying whores in Holoshit? kek Beatani is absolutely based for calling others out like that. She doesn't need to pander to anyone when all she does is authentic and everything she says is correct.

>>14304563
Based.

>>14304563
This

Is nadechama the only vt born chuuba that turned out to be a decent human being?

>>14353596
>decent human being
Where do you think you are normie

>>14353632
I have been here for longer than you nigger

>>14306206
turbobased.

>>14304255
This the biggest /here/ tubers draw all the retards in, so i can enjoy my oshi in peace.
Thank you for your service.

>>14353763
And I've been here since 2004. Keep underestimating the breadth of this website's outreach, raid kiddie.

>>14353596
why would anyone actually want to watch someone leaving there original fanbase and character design and also moving to twitch

>>14306206
All the latter has to do is just cry on stream and post some long essay about why she's a menhera to get attention to mask the fact that she has no talent whatsoever kek

>>14304934
I started with 0 then played 1-2, but 3 has filtered the fuck out of me. The gameplay being bad & the whole orphan plotline discourage me from oicking it back up.

>>14353632
>uses normie instead of normalfag

>>14354777
>uses Holoshit image
How was the sob session and lengthy blog post today, Holofag?

>>14355036
>holoshit

>>14355167
Answer the question, Holofag

>>14355315
>holofag

>>14353596
Yes. She loves idols and truly believes in the idol experience.
She's also the undisputed zatsudan master of this board.

>>14355366
Yes. Holofag. You're a Holofag and you're posting on the VTuber board. Go to the Holoshit subreddit if you want to talk about your talentless whores. We don't talk about Holoshit on /vt/. Go back.

>>14355483
>

>>14339698
I stopped watching Koopa due to the fact she went full schizo on here. No idea how she handles herself currently though

>>14355835
>schizo
you've been rused anon, koopa is just and didn't know how to handle the shitstorm because she had 6 months of streaming with no prior experience and probably no experience in public PR either

>>14356346
is just dumb*

>>14356346
More like she shouldn't have fucked a fan and then posted evidence on Twitter.
And then had a meltdown that confirmed everyones suspicions again.

>>14356429
Based Chad who got to fuck Kwap.

>>14311985
Popularity isn't function of Quality. What the fuck is this zoomer mentality, holy shit. Is this why people cling to Hololive so much?

>>14356429
>shouldn't have fucked a fan
yes, and? nigger don't pretend like you wouldn't jump at the chance to ravage some untarnished chuuba pussy if she was receptive to your advances, should've grinded harder if you're the kind of anon that feels cucked if a streamer has sex

>>14356573
Who cares if Beatani is 10% more skilled as a streamer? Supporting Pekora means you get to participate in the entire Hololive ecosystem plus the resources of Cover to organise cool events. You also get to connect with much more fans who enjoy the same vtuber. It's the objectively superior entertainment option.

>>14356667
Thank you for admitting you are holo fan for corporation, not for your """oshi""".

>>14356634
You're projecting anon. I would, and Koopa is retarded.

>>14356709
Have fun competing for the love of your bear among 50 other discord groomers. I'll be spending time enjoying streams.

>>14356854
Tanks, have fun watching a show, I will have fun watching Vtubers.

>>14356346
I literally read her schizo essay Anon. I lost interest due to that and not any other reason. No hate or anything it just opened my eyes that I don't really want to watch a 4chan vtuber

>>14356573
>Popularity isn't function of Quality.
It is a function of quality as a streamer. Even if Beatani was in Hololive (to equalize the Hololive boost), she would be one at the bottom in terms of views, and is mogged in every of her skills by other Holos. She can do a few things relatively well, but can't do anything really well. She will never stream as well as Pekora, never draw as well as Ina or Marine, never sing as well as Sora/AZKi/etc

Also the "popular = bad" mentality is a sign that you're mentally a child

>>14356728
i don't have to grind for internet pussy, if the only reason you don't watch her because she fucked someone else it means you either have some kind of belief that chuubas should stay pure which makes you extra schizo or you felt cucked

>>14357019
Do you realize that 99% of people wouldn't watch hololive talents if not for brand and marketing, right? and who said that popular=bad? Stop projecting

>>14357065
I never even watched her, I just pity her goslings. Have fun in her chat anon.

>>14357092
>Do you realize that 99% of people wouldn't watch hololive talents if not for brand and marketing, right?
And where do you think that brand and marketing come from? At one point Niji was way more popular than Hololive, now it's the opposite. Hololive was better than Niji at some point, and thus it became more popular

>and who said that popular=bad?
You did. You said that popularity isn't a function of quality, which means that either quality has no impact on popularity (which I doubt you believe, because you wouldn't defend that Bea should have more views otherwise), or that popular = bad

>>14357205
How delusional can you be? Are you trying to cope so hard, you convinced yourself that Hololive filling in power vacuum in EN market and holding monopoly on YT for months doesn't have effect on their sub count and viewership?
Holy mother of mental gymnastics. How the fuck did you arrive at the conclusion that me saying that popularity is a result of marketing and brand loyalty (which is part of marketing) means that being popular means you are a bad Vtuber? Do you actually do not realize that Gura or Ame, for example, had way less views before their Holo debuts? Those are the same people, they are mostly very much the same on their streams, they were picked for their qualities they had before they become part of Holo and only thing that changed after their debut was that they got Hololive brand and marketing.

>>14356573
Redditors flooded this board to bootlick their corporations. It's not rocket science.

>>14356573
>popularity isn't a function of quality
Why would quality have zero effect on popularity? Wouldn't people naturally flock towards high quality content?
Sounds like you're being contrarian.

>>14356667
>>14357019
Don't you have a sob story with an essay to watch, Holofags?

>>14356854
Go watch your sob story with an essay that follows, Holobrony. We watch VTubers here, not kayfabe corporate whores.

>>14357065
Peak beta mindset right here

>>14357561
Don't you have a twitter drama to attend to, indiefag? Seems your oshi is startimg to hate you for real.

>>14357530
Contrarian or not he's fucking right, bootlicker. Go watch your made up sob story followed by the essay of saying that your menhera talentless whore in denial is actually indeed a menhera talentless whore.

>>14357518
>Are you trying to cope so hard, you convinced yourself that Hololive filling in power vacuum in EN market and holding monopoly on YT for months doesn't have effect on their sub count and viewership?
And how did they get to that point? By being better than the competition. Maybe you're too new to remember the Niji reign, and Choco being called an honorary Niji because she had 30k subs, in which case it's pointless to talk about that since you don't know what you're talking about

> How the fuck did you arrive at the conclusion that me saying that popularity is a result of marketing and brand loyalty (which is part of marketing) means that being popular means you are a bad Vtuber?
And where does that marketing comes from? Good content. Mostly in the form of clips for the western audience, because Hololive was way better at making fun moments that can be condensed in a 5 minutes clip

>Do you actually do not realize that Gura or Ame, for example, had way less views before their Holo debuts?
Yes, and do you realize that different Holos have different numbers? Pekora is one of the best, which is why she's at the top. It's not hard to understand

>Those are the same people, they are mostly very much the same on their streams, they were picked for their qualities they had before they become part of Holo and only thing that changed after their debut was that they got Hololive brand and marketing.
That depends on the Holos. Ina changed a lot her streaming style, many JP did too. The ones that are basically how they were before are the exception, not the rule

>>14357561
>sob story with an essay
What are you even talking about?

>>14357640
Bea likes all my tweets, your oshi will NEVER do this to you because she uses you for money and superficial attention kek

>>14357594
>We
Go back

>We watch VTubers here
No you don't, you pretend to watch indie to argue with people here

>>14357561
>>14357594
>>14357664
Samefagging this hard

>>14357518
To be a Holobrony requires unwarranted levels of copium and cuckoldry. You're arguing with a literal board tourist, a beta male, someone who was laughed off /r9k/ for his own failures. Someone who embodies what is wrong with nuchan in a fucking nutshell. A descendent of a raid kiddie.

>>14357530
>Wouldn't people naturally flock towards high quality content
It has been proven time and again that people flock to mediocre easy-to-digest content that appeals to a wide audience. Popular vtubers are the equivalent of "big three" anime and capeshit movies, while quality chuubas have more dedicated fanbases

>>14357700
There's nothing to argue faggot. Just stop watching Holoshit. It's literally worse than porn for your brain and you're in heavy denial over it.

>>14357778
>It's literally worse than porn for your brain and you're in heavy denial over it.
It's just a stream man, calm down

>>14357696
You don't fool me, your oshi replies with "kill youself" without liking your tweet.

>>14357530
McDonald's is the most popular restaurant in the world. Doesn't mean it's good.

>>14357796
Explain the difference between Holoshit and porn, Holobrony. Go on, we're all waiting.

>>14357065
gayest post I'll read today, great work anon.

>>14357770
"Quality" in here just means "appeals to me" though, it's not a objective metric. Popularity is

>>14357807
You don't even follow Bea, tourist.

>>14357834
What's next, do I have to explain the difference between a car and a bird? If you can't understand the difference between fundamentally different things just take your meds and stop posting

>>14357834
He can't, he's too busy reading the essay attached to his walking sob story.

It’s funny to see how you guys behave like you don’t know the past of Holos
Some of them were literal 2views indies

>>14357854
Nigger, just because something is popular does not mean it's objectively good. How much mental gymnastics are you willing to say when the average Holoshit comes off as both untalented and menhera to the normal person's eye? How are you this fucking retarded?

>>14357874
Beatani debuted in 2021, you're the tourist here

>>14357933
Define "objectively good" and how it applies to vtubers then

>>14357834
BASED
>>14357885
Nice false dichotomy, fag.

>>14357921
If they accept that they will have to accept that their indie has no talent compared to Holos, and they can't accept that, so they ignore reality

>>14357937
>he doesn't know
Bea has been posting on the Internet for 18 years. She will always have more credibility than some dried up whores on NND.
>>14357954
Talent and entertainment value, in which Bea surpasses all of Holoshit by miles.

>>14357968
>false dichotomy
It's not, I don't know why I have to explain to you the difference between a stream and porn. Do I have to explain the difference between TV and porn to you too?

>>14357874
I'm glad I don't, so I'm not forced to cheer her on as she fucks her coworker.

>>14358009
But how do you measure entertainment value? You watch the stream and think she's a 10 while Pekora is a 5? Again, that's just personal preference, nothing to do with an objective metric

>Talent
Like what, a few half-assed skills? Please

>>14357969
Did you not fucking read this thread? Did you not understand how BTFO you got with >>14304563
? Nigger, more than half of the thread agrees with this point. You've been bodied all thread long. Just fucking kneel to Bea already.

>>14357530
Let me give you an analogy anon. Supreme(TM) clothes can be worth tens of thousand of dollars despite being as or less functional or good looking as regular clothes. You know why? Brand loyalty. Kids want to be in the cool club. Lot of hololive fans are like this, they often don't seek cool streamer, they want to be in the popular group. Hololive is THE Vtuber brand for them. They are might even be hardly aware of other agencies. There is a reason why marketing is such a huge big part of corpo's budget.
>>14357679
>By being better than the competition
Anon for fuck sake it doesnt work like this. Corpo might be better at marketing. Corpo might have debuted first and get the biggest slice of a cake.
>Marketing comes from good content
Oh no no no, you dont even understand what marketing IS anon. Are you REALLY believe that marketing is clips? Do you realize that there are banners, comercials, partnerships and sponsorships? Do you realize how powerful was the monopolistic position that Holo held for months before NijiEN?
>Yes, and do you realize that different Holos have different numbers?
Ah yes, lets bring some other examples. Like Ayame, she has over million subs. Oh wait. She hardly streams. Makes you think, huh. Ok, other exaple. Aloe. Oh wait, she doesn't stream at all. In fact there is no content on her channel. And yet she has almost 240k subs. Can you already see that content has little meaning when it comes to popularity?
>That depends on the Holos.Goalpost moving.
Goalpost moving

>>14358024
>one form of electric judaism is different from another
Bravo faggot. It's clear you can't see the difference.
>>14358045
He's literally a Chad Dad and you're just painfully unaware because you don't even know her kek
>>14358062
Pekora the brown offpako queen NND whore isn't even remotely talented in any way shape or form possible. Beatani is genuinely cute and funny and has a sense of humor that reaches the entire Internet worldwide, not just a shitty weeaboo island.

>>14358064
More than half to the response to this are negative, nobody cares about Bea and nobody ever will except for a few schizos like you

>>14358077
Niji debuted first, and Cover has basically no marketing. Again, if you weren't here during that period just stop posting

>Do you realize that there are banners, comercials, partnerships and sponsorships? Do you realize how powerful was the monopolistic position that Holo held for months before NijiEN?
They had none of that at first. You're not answering the part where Hololive became more popular than Nijisanji

>Ah yes, lets bring some other examples. Like Ayame, she has over million subs. Oh wait. She hardly streams. Makes you think, huh. Ok, other exaple. Aloe. Oh wait, she doesn't stream at all. In fact there is no content on her channel. And yet she has almost 240k subs. Can you already see that content has little meaning when it comes to popularity?
Sure, let's take superchats and concurrent views then

>>14358118
>Beatani is genuinely cute and funny and has a sense of humor that reaches the entire Internet worldwide, not just a shitty weeaboo island.
I didn't know there were less than 3k people on "the entire internet"

>>14357969
>they can't accept that, so they ignore reality
lmao irony

>>14358118
>electric judaism
Oh so you're an election tourist

>>14358166
>quantity > quality
There you go again forcing your corporate dogma onto an entire board. Keep digging your hole, bootlicker. Got another sob story followed by an essay, Holobrony? Yeah faggot. You don't belong here.

>>14358118
The cope and seethe is unreal, does it make you angry that Pekora is bigger than your oshi ever will be?
>Chad Dad
Possibly the most pathetic title someone is proud of

>>14357969
And the reality is that this thread mostly disagrees with you and that Beatani literally discovered the Holoshit formula on how to actually be popular. Therefore she knows way more than anyone else could ever and we should be thanking her. The more people that figure this out, the better.

God I fucking love this cute and funny bear.

>>14358204
>muh election tourist
They've always been here, raid kiddie. Not my fault we don't fall for your Jewish tricks here.
>>14358249
Yes, fucking your oshi is a Gigachad move and you're just a repressed beta pussy who will never feel the touch of a woman, let alone a woman that posts here.

I genuinely can't tell if most of the posts in this thread are genuine or farming for (you)'s. That is how bad discussion is on /vt/ at this point.

>>14358249
Pekora the offpako brown NND whore can't do anything other than cry crocodile tears and write an essay about her menhera condition like the rest of her equally talentless corporate whores, kek

>>14358312
You're incomprehensible. Stop projecting and take your meds.

>>14358334
Read the fucking room, Holobrony. Your kind is not wanted. If you hate discussion here, you're free to go back to r/Hololive where you originally came from.

>>14358371
I don't need meds faggot. Sounds like you need to gain height and lift so you have a slightly better chance of fucking your unreachable oshi KEK

Bea has good thumbnailing skills desu

>>14358334
It’s moreover that this one shitposting bear has drawn in the dregs of several boards, much like how Pippa pulls in Kiwi Farms, and both pools love to be antagonistic while wading in an ocean of shit.

>>14358334
I am farming for (you)s but I also believe Beatanifags enjoy the cucking fantasy.

>>14358334
it’s you farming at beatanis expense it’s been happening for days>>14308647

>>14358334
Don't you have a sob story followed by blog post to watch, Holofag?

>>14358461
Stop pretending you know shit you clearly don't, Reddit tourist.

>>14358166
>Cover has basically no marketing
>Nijisanji EN debuted before Hololive EN
???????????????? Ok, I assume thats not what you mean and you are goalpost moving again and you are referring to corpo as a whole. Niji was literally bigger corpo than holo before HoloEN happened and you admitted this few posts ago. Why are you contradicting yourself now?
>Sure, let's take superchats and concurrent views then
But we are not talking about earnings or dedicated viewerbase. We are talking about how much exposure being in corpo gives you and how it affects your popularity. I cannot possibly pick better example than Aloe who doesn't provide any content at all and yet she has 240k subs. There are indies producing great content and they et 2digit views. Can you see a difference now? Do you realize that different Vtubers get different marketing even within the same company?

>>14308647
I can't believe Beatani fans are this offensive and uncouth. I think this reflects extremely poorly on Beatani and the community she personally fostered.

>>14358812
More like us Dads are the gold standard when it comes to VTuber fans in terms of both obligation and standards alike and you're just filtered. And it sounds like you have a problem with this entire board and you clearly don't belong. Now off to r/Hololive you go, tourist.

>>14358812
Get filtered Holocuck

>>14358812
lol cry about it bitch. This is the only place where Bea's following is welcome. Because you don't welcome us elsewhere, then you need to go back. Gatekeeping is good. This hobby is not for corporate talentless whores. This is for VTubers who are actually entertaining and creative. Much like Bea herself.

>>14350397
thx

>>14331185
But she's already past 30K$ in donations though... of course no one use SCs, but streamlab, no point wasting money on jewtube when you can waste money on an anime bear instead

>>14330499
Well good thing that's not what beatani does at all, then, quite the opposite, she just picked up the vocabulary
however kiki is 200% only 4chan forever

>>14336488
yuck, that doesn't even sound genuine, just acting as the typical newfag view of what 4chan is

>>14360519
Amazon gift card (a few thousand$ IIRC)
donation (30K$)
SC (10K$? Don’t forget she has a akasupa guy)
YT membership (1K$ per month?)

God damn, this thread is a wild one. No matter how many times I see it. The power of bait will always amaze me.

>>14360857
Not much bait in this thread when you look closely enough. I'll give you credit for posting based Eira though.

Dads complain about newfags but bump bait threads constantly without saging. Pretty funny

>>14360857
Why does she act like this on twitter but in her bea collabs she's so passive and aloof?

>>14362537
We don't have to because it's a reminder that raid kiddie Holotards like (You) need to be expelled from this board already.